Tempus Fugit - "Clock Theme" from Martin Scorsese's Goncharov (1973) dir. Matteo JWHJ0715
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- The "Clock Theme", or "Clock Leitmotif", appears in multiple scenes in Goncharov, when the motif of passing time and clocks is especially prominent. Considered lost media for over 40 years, now, in 2022, we can finally enjoy this beautiful piece of soundtrack by the ever elusive composer known only as D. Addams.
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I don't like a lot of Scorsese films but this one is it and it's primarily the score that makes it better. Truly a masterpiece
I can see him loading gun. The betrayal trail in his eyes, the heartbreak in his chest. The clock ticks for us all Goncharov.
Andrey did nothing wrong! 😁😁Still the best character dynamic in all mafia cinematography, I'll say. It's what made the betrayal hit all so hard afterall.
when Katya refused to surrender and Andrey said
"So be it then"
and shot him, I nearly fell out of my seat with shock
the clock ticking throughout the piece, and as a recurring theme in the rest of the soundtrack, serves as a somber reminder of that inevitable momentum. Other themes of the film (the inevitability of nations going to war, of passions sparking and cooling, and the betrayal of brothers) become very clear when put against the stark backdrop of the clock in the tower at the bridge. The moment of the final shot is heartbreaking, even in my memory
I love when “the lanterns go out” track plays at 0:42 to harken back to the first scene we see andrey in
SAME OH MY GOSH I WAS GOING TO SAY
yess honestly the thematic callbacks and reflections of scenes are honestly what made goncharov the masterpiece it was
Interestingly, you can detect a clear influence by the 'Dies Irae' theme in that section as well, as if predicting that Andre would be the one to kill Goncharov.
This theme always brought me such anxiety, especially during Katya’s boat scene. She was my favourite character and I was so scared that her time had finally run out.
Fun fact! Clocks were constantly used in the film to symbolize when a character’s time was running out. When Goncharov finds out Katya lives there is a broken clock in the background, symbolizing her defiance of death.
@@weegee2567 ohhh so that really strengthens the theme of "whats done is done, and theres no going back to fix it", especially in goncharov's arc of constantly not being able to bring back the things and people that hes lost, it really makes us feel with him when we start to realise more things are slipping away to time
Spoilers man
the fact the score wasn't nominated for an oscar is one of the biggest snubs in the history of the music industry and the film industry
I especially liked how they incorporated a slower version of the clock leitmotif in the theme that plays during Goncharov's death scene, like, it's so subtle but so powerful!
This! Especially with the shots of him and andrey, it feels so tender for a murder scene
dude come on SPOILERS!
@@ethanw041 buddy it’s been out for 40 years
@@kashalakasha2092 Man, I’ve only just managed to save up for a TV. Been saving up for 40 years just to watch the movie. Some people just aren’t fortunate enough for the luxuries of electronics friend.
I showed it to my dad and he got so emotional because we don't have the VHS anymore and it was one of his faves
Thank u for uploading it!!!
It's really devastating that JWHJ0715 died so young, because he had remarkable directorial skill, and the way this music brings me right into the scene as if I'm watching it all over again is a testament to the composer's skill. The tension in that drumbeat, the call & response of the winds, the way the strings bring it all together... It's a gorgeous motif.
We should all be thankful for what he did in 2005.
This movie is truly an emotional rollercoaster. The boat scene with Katya is one of those moments in film that you never forget. There are just so many moments that make this a cinematic masterpiece. Andrey’s betrayal stands as another scene that took my breath away. I love how the soundtrack really ties into the themes of betrayal and the clock symbolism that permeate throughout the movie.
Andrey has one of the best character arcs ever in my opinion. Out of everyone, he seems like among the very last people to betray Goncharov, but thanks to some of the best character development in cinema history, his transformation is absolutely believable :)
@@MagisterMarchHare Agreed!! Spoiler warning ahead for those who haven’t watched!
Katya’s betrayal was foreseeable because of their marriage but Andrey’s was amazingly done. There truly was a transformation that took place and it makes perfect sense the more you rewatch. And omg the way Goncharov tried crawling away only for Andrey to finish him off was brutal and heartbreaking! Truly amazing filmmaking!
@@paris5023 Couldn't get over the scattered apples in the background, I'd like to belive it was a reference to the market scene but it was probably just some random fruit :p I choose to belive it was there on purpose to show the parallels between Andrey/Goncharov and Katya/Sofia.
@@MagisterMarchHare Haha the scattered apples were definitely an interesting element. As much as I want to believe it was genius move tying back to the market scene, like you, I think it was probably random. With that said, it would be amazing if it was meant to show the ties between those relationships. That is truly a keen observation and I’m choosing to see that as intentional from now on!
The anchovy scene builds the true focal point of the whole movie. Change my mind!
Brilliant, I also loved the MIDI rendition of this theme that played in Goncharov for PS1 although that was famously the most frustrating level
right???? oh man.. i remember being traumatized as a kid because of all the boxes getting in the way. good thing the music was so cool
THERE WAS A PS1 GAME?? god i need to find one of these
i wanted to play that game so much as a child but my parents wouldn't get it. might have to get a copy if i can find one
@@eyemoisturizer yes, and it was pretty damn awesome. There were also a PS3/360 game, it had no connection to linear Ps1 third person action title, but rather a very-well made GTA clone, with cool driving mechanics, shooting and criminal Empire managment kinda like in Godfather/Scarface games. This game is a hidden gem.
This isn’t the midi?? This sounds awful (subjectivity) honestly. Like midi!
"The trouble is... you think you have time." No matter how many times I see it that line and this bit of the score just give me chills.
Classic, i love the scene where Goncharov told (SPOILER) that he will kill him and then kill him again with this music in the background.
Greatest movie ever made with the greatest soundtrack
The fact that the song is titled “Tempus fugit” - or “he flees time”. All throughout the film Goncharov spends his time desperate to stop the passage of time, to stop the inevitable from happening, but ultimately he is powerless in doing so. He can only flee time, become a fugitive to it (hence the word for flee being fugit), he can never escape it. However, they did decline tempus incorrectly, which should be temporem since it does serve as the direct object.
The brilliance of the movie lies in the fact that the audience feels every emotion Goncharov does. We know how the movie is going to end in the very first scenes, Goncharov is a dead man walking. The suspense and denial we feel plays into the theme of the movie so well. Underrated masterpiece.
Tempus Fugit actually just means "Time Flies"
This movie is truly a masterpiece
this scene literally used to scare tf out of me, my dad showed me this movie when I was wayy too young to watch it
I am 8 and I hve seen goncharov twice without being scared
"Death always catches up to you. Later... or sooner."
One of the greatest death scenes of all time. If you've seen the movie, you know.
i'm still so mad the score was snubbed at the oscars
I remember my grandfather dug this out of an old box one day when i was still a kid. this scene has been burned into my memory ever since, especially the light filtering through the gunsmoke. I didn't make the connection that it was a symbolic reflection of the watchman's pipe smoke until years later
“Enough is enough Goncharov, time’s over!”
“And it’s too late for you as well”
Chills
goncharov is such a dilf i loved the red coat scene. sorry not sorry
Siempre creía que esta película era perdida … me encantaba encontrar el tema aquí. Saludos 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
I love this movie! The soundtrack is truly fantastic ☺️
They should release the entire soundtrack for the 50th anniversary next year
amazing lining with the overall theme of time, running out of it as you become a stranger to yourself, which is about Goncharov's whole arc throughout the movie. And at the end where he gets shot, time finally stops as we see the clock stop striking, therefore establishing Katya's final beginning of the rest of her life as she can now reconnect with herself. amazing movie, amazing soundtrack
Oh my gosh! Thank you for uploading this! I always had such an emotional response to hearing this part of the soundtrack in particular.
It’s been years since I watched Goncharov (PLEASE release it on DVD or digitally already!) so I might be wrong but isn’t this the point where we see the unnamed girl with the teddy bear in the background, for the second time?
The fact that the film never draws attention to her, right until the end where she gets caught in the crossfire, really speak to this movie’s subtlety and trust in its audience. The movie makes it very clear that all the main characters are doomed because they are trapped by both the situation and their own inability to walk away. However, the girl with the teddy is a reminder that it’s not just them they are hurting. Everyone they get close to is in danger but even innocent bystanders are dying because of them
I think the girl was a callback to the one in the beginning, that was bleeding out face down.
We never learned her name, or face, or anything about her either. Just another nameless victim.
@@toolatetothestory I never actually saw that scene. It was one of the things that got cut from version of Goncharov that was released in the UK.
To me, the girl with the teddy was more of a parallel to the little we know about Katya’s past and a motivation for her to finally make the decision she does.
I think there’s at least some truth to what Katya told Sofia about her childhood. I know she lies constantly but, even if nothing else is true, she does have the scar. Maybe the rest of the story was fake. Maybe she never had a sister. However, the horror and grief of her reaction to the girl with the teddy’s death was real. True, that a natural and normal human reaction to what happened but, if the story she told really did happen, then her reaction makes even more sense. After all, it’s the time when her shields drop the most and it is the only time we see her brake down and cry.
@@NuttersIncorporated Ahh, that explains it, I saw the German version and we have some less strict censorship when it comes to blood and death.
There was also a cut scene that revealed that her new lover was actually Katyas lost sister, which, tbh, I would have loved to see for the added debth it would have brought to the already toxic relationship.
But I get it why it would have been cut.
And I guess in the UK version they also cut the mid credits scene? Because Katya does cry one more time, over Goncharovs grave.
Making you question if she did love him after all, despite everything.
So both Katyas and Andreys feelings for Dmitri are left ambiguous
@@toolatetothestory I defiantly did not see a mid-credit scene! I don’t suppose it’s online anywhere I could watch it?
Even though I didn’t know about the scene where she cried at Goncharov’s grave, I’ve always personally thought that Katya did love him as much as she was capable of loving anyone. It’s just that she loved the idea of freedom more.
If someone holds a gun to the head of someone you love and tells you they will shoot them the next time you take a breath, sooner or later, your body is going to make you take a breath. That doesn’t mean you don’t love them. It’s something you can’t stop, no matter how much you want to.
That was basically how I interpret Katya’s situation. Obviously, it’s not exactly the same because Katya did make a choice but, metaphorically at least, she was suffocating and she needed to breath.
This song scared me SO much when I was a kid! I tried to watch the movie a few times growing up, but something about the clock imagery and this music terrified me. Still haven't seen the last 30 minutes or so.
This movie was a masterpiece!! The clock symbolism through the whole film and in every song made me anxious, I knew their time was running out
"Time's up, Goncharov"
De Niro’s character constantly fiddles with his stopwatch, I think it’s symbolic for how he tries to “control” time, and wants to turn back the clock.
I'm glad to see people are gaslighting the Internet in concert like this.
It's amazing how lost media like this can be recovered. Maybe I'm old fashioned but this will always be my favourite film. Shame about the censorship in the remake
This scene was so intense, I'm glad now more people are hearing about this film. Goncharov, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Morbius, my top 3 favorite films ever.
Dude. This was incredible. Katya's boat scene was my favorite part and this music during it....absolute gold.
I've been listening to the soundtrack on repeat for days while I do homework but this piece is so tense and beautiful that I have to stop reading and just listen to it with my eyes closed every time lol
I feel bad for the poor bastard who had to search this seemingly popular and well loved movie not even appear anywhere online and lose their minds
Me
I'd appreciate it if you could find the music that plays when I've Pick Joe dies on the church steps. It was such a beautiful scene and I'd love to hear it properly again
Actually breathtaking
Man it sure was crazy when the big labowski showed up and 360 noscoped andrey at the clock tower. Scorsese truly is a visonary
"No matter how you try to stall for time, stretch it like an elastic band... Elastics eventually snap."
Oh man I can't wait to show this to my dad! He's gonna absolutely lose his marbles hearing that bits of the soundtrack survived the Goncharov censorship!
"Time is like money, if you know how to spend it correctly, you can get very far, but if you don't, you will not get anywhere"
- Goncharov
this was my favourite scene like holy shit the music the lighting the fear and anticipation. goncharov was a 10000/10 movie.
been looking for this everywhere!! easily one of my favorite tracks
the amount of detail connecting all the parts of the score together was one of my favourite things about this movie, like how it plays the clock ticking sound before the chase up the tower begins, only for it to become the metronome for the timpanis was a brilliant move.
I loved when he said “it’s goncharovin time” and goncharoved all over the place
Apart from the iconic music, this scene highlights one of my favourite under-appreciated details of Goncharov: its use of cuts.
Martin Scorsese loves his long takes, and Goncharov doesn't disappoint, including the 4-min tracking shot leading up to this scene. But look at what happens when he arrives and the conversation starts, and Scorsese switches to using typical shot-reverse-shot cuts:
Every time it cuts back, the clock behind Goncharov has moved forward more than it should have based on the timing of the conversation.
This happens throughout the movie, mind, and most people who talk about it have just chalked it up to carelessness, or splicing multiple takes. But it isn't, and this scene proves it: the overlapping dialogue means this scene *can't* have been spliced from multiple takes. The clock moving forwards, getting closer to the hour, faster than it should every time the camera blinks, was on purpose.
I also think, if we think about it, it's pretty clear why: Goncharov knows the end is coming, but even if you know, you don't *really* know. We can also make a pretty good guess where that inspiration came from: Tolstoy's "The Death of Ivan Ilych," an acknowledged influence on the movie in many other ways as well. Tolstoy told us how Ilych always felt like death was something that happens to other people; Scorsese's telling us how Goncharov always felt like he'd have more time.
Oh, I love this movie
Aaahhh the soundtrack is so good!!!
OMG I can't believe I finally get to hear this! I once found the OST on vinyl at a flea market, but it turned out to be so damaged it wouldn't play for more than a few seconds without skipping. Hooray for the digital age!
Gotta love the recurring clock motifs in this movie and in the soundtrack. ICONIC. While the bridge scene and track definitely rate at the top of my faves, this one is RIGHT UP THERE. Excellent job finding a clean copy. Hope this helps more people to rediscover such an amazing work.
Never in my life did I expect to see the internet spontaneously just invent a movie that doesn't exist
i’m really really happy this underrated gem is getting more time in the spotlight! fantastic movie!!!
I can picture goncharov and andrey locking eyes during THAT scene, knowing there was something more that they wanted but there wasn’t enough time
Dude this is gonna become a movie at this rate
I get the feeling that Goncharov knew from the beginning that his time was limited, and that what he was going to do was going to be meaningless in the end, but he still carried on because it's not in the man's nature to just give up. He mirrors the detective and Katya in this way. If you take away their goals, the heroes and the villains really aren't different from each other, just men fighting a valiant but pointless struggle against the inevitable passage of time.
I must say,Matteo JWHJ0715 did a great job with this movie
Does anyone know any other movies or shows he worked on?
Fun Fuct: this is director Alan Smithee's favorite movie, but he didn't admit it for a very long time because of his quarrel with Scorsese over scandalous scenario of unreleased "Two faces of John Doe" back in 70's.
watched the movie years ago but this soundtrack never left my mind! i can still see the flashing clocktower imagery clear as day. and katya's dress... they don't make movies like this anymore. peak cinema..!
just found out the other day that my dad has this soundtrack on vinyl!! Honestly one of my favourite scores from it.
I remember when my father show me this film, it was beautiful 💞💞
the use of the Dies Irae is so beautiful here, god this music gets me everytime
Never understood myself why alot of people forgive Andrey in this film, he was the reason rabali died in the cafe scene, he Ultimately was the reason goncharov destroyed himself for revenge
My father likes this scene the most,whenever we'd watch it together it just sends a chill down your spine
the kgb raid scene was so tense, just asking the little girl where the weapons were with a gun upto her mother's head while the eerie but firm politeness of the constable Cherov was haunting.
the clock ticks for us all, goncharov......
goosebumps. takes me right back to my childhood. thank you for the upload!
God the score for this film is so fucking good, it captures such emotion that the flim already delivers so well on
this gave me so much anxiety during the movie 😭 we really thought it was over for our fave
My dog apparently likes listening to this
It really gives off the sense of the ineluctable passing of time! They don't make music like this anymore!
This soundtrack is so iconic. Thanks for uploading it !
This playing during the alleyway scene,,,, I was on the edge of my heart
i just love this movie, chills every time i listen to this
I remember this theme from the gearing up montage. Even though, it was just a filler leading up to the climax. The ticking made it feel so tense but also slow at the same time. The actor's portrayal also adds to the fact, he looks like he wants to panic but he's just barely able to hold it in by sheer resolve. It's one of Martin's best works of all time by far. Scravo, Borsese...
Always been one of my favorite movies! So glad to see it get some love 💚
thanks for uploading! i've been searching for this for years
Stunning soundtrack. The fact this film was so critically bombed is a shame. They obviously didn't listen to the music.
The intensity ! The splendor ! Goncharov.
Really brings Bernard Herrmann to shame.
haha, so glad someone noticed the inspiration, i actually listened to a few of his themes before making this
Still gives me chills after all these years!
This was my grandads favourite movie
Thanks for the inspiration, it finally gave me the motivation to digitize and upload the end credit score ("Final Curtain" theme)
the internet can sometimes be such a wonderful place.
Damn, this movie was good, they should make a modern remake!
I got chills from just remembering this scene
I know youtube copyright rules are strict but I wish we could upload the original london philharmonia recording with rattle conducting :(
I am SO glad someone finally managed to digitize and upload this piece in particular
I am a HUGE sucker for the theme and leitmotif of clocks and passing time so this one has been close to my heart since first watching it, drove me half insane trying to find this one, felt like i made the entire piece up but THANK YOU!! Here it is in its fully glory
I like how depending on which tracks and meta-plots you follow, this either sounds like a tragic criminal pulp movie by Scorcese or a Wes Anderson romp of what it means to be human.
Back when movies were cinema 👏👏👏
the way this theme, reprised and rearranged, haunted the whole movie--so just hearing this gave me a speed run of Goncharov again! Thank you for sharing this!
Easily the best scene in the film! The soundtrack alone brings me goosebumps everytime. Well played goncharov.
This movie defied every single movie logic, but it worked! You never knew what genre it was going to be next because it was all of them at the same time. Martin Scorsese really outdid himself and there honestly should have never been another film created after "Goncharov" because it was literally blew every film ever made beforehand, and every picture that came out after, to even now! Nothing will compare to the masterpiece that was "Goncharov". And that's facts!
I get chills everytime i hear this in the Movie
im so glad this movie and its amazing soundtrack are finally getting the recognition they deserve
Omg this is my favourite track of all the ost, thank you so much for uploading it !!!
My favorite part of Goncharov was when Goncharov said "Now is the time of Goncharov!" (incorrectly translated as "it's Gonching time" in the 2022 Netflix release) and gonched all over Andrei's face.
this score is so good wow I love goncharov (1973)
God this theme was so so good and it adds so much to the tension of the scene.
My favorite theme from my favorite movie