@@jonathancamposeco7286 Your scripter holds as much weight as a kids story. Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall; All the king's horses and all the king's men Couldn't put Humpty together again. There you go. Now base your whole life on that.
Imagine, sitting in the comfort of your home thousands of miles away, and then being transported to one of the leading universities to watch and listen to some of the greatest minds debate. The internet is a wonderful thing.
The internet can be useful, but overall it has caused anguish --- everywhere I travel, I only see prisoners, captured by it - the answer is to go back to the internet at home, at a desktop and throw away the phone _ remote controller
And still nobody has ever seen. If you can't prove the existance of the most powerful being to ever exist he ain't real or is he just really good at hide and seek 😂 just because you're a coward and want it to be true doesn't mean it is and without proof it isn't and it never will be. Every single argument from a believer amounts to"i don't know so god" ignorance is bliss but it's also just ignorant
@seanpittaway5341 why do you assume that the one who created us wants to make himself known to us?I'm sorry you feel that way, friend. I would argue that it takes more courage to believe in something you can't see or prove. I'm sorry but I think you miss the whole point of faith. It's not very kind to call people names who don't believe what you believe. God bless!!
@@Sednas Point is, that's a massive leap to call someone a hypocrite, and 99% of the population would be guilty of hypocrisy if your method was just. You're a hypocrite for saying Christians assume God exists when you assume (given you believe in history) that Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle existed. All that was left of them was writing. You have to assume, on some level, that nobody was trying to make up these philosophical characters through writing. Such historical figures are never certain, but the key is to treat them all the same, from an unbiased view. We all assume. Assumptions are made everyday, but some are more ridiculous than others, like when you assumed that OP wouldn't appreciate freedom of speech if there were atheists in the video, which there clearly are, and moreso throughout Oxford University.
Open debate at Oxford Is just that for now but certain deceivers and ruthless men are desperately trying to silence debate and inquiry into things they seek to keep away from public scrutiny.Keep your eyes open and watch what laws are being drafted from certain pressure groups,you will soon find out who truly rules over society, a bunch of base criminals ,the same ones who funded and ran the Bolshevik revolution and they are eager to stamp out open debate especially when the facts presented oppose their goals
@@Sednas And I'm meaning to say that you assumed he was a Christian for admiring freedom of expression. Now I'm going to assume that you wouldn't be saying "I bet you wouldn't be saying the same if the subject of the video was a Christian" if the original poster was saying he admired the freedom of speech under a video where an atheist was arguing his point.
OxfordUnion: Has an intellectial yet respectful and coherent debate RUclips comments: Theists and Atheists debunked each other 100 times with paragraphs as long as the Bible itself, ultimately resorting to insulting each other for existing *And that is why they are up there in Oxford, and we are down here, in a pointless comment section*
His five arguments timestamped: 0:28 Science requires the existence of God (A lawgiver being a condition for law in nature) 3:57 Logic thinking requires the existence of God (A brain having evolved only out of survival not being a reliable source of reason) 6:45 Morality requires the existence of God (A person only being more than just matter and having a fundamental value if God exists) 8:47 Meaning in life requires the existence of God (The relationship with him being the goal of life) 12:30 Hope for ultimate justice requires the existence of God (A judgement after death only being possible through Jesus Christ)
Al arguments you list, are just made up falsehoods with no evidence preached by Lennox. 1. Science exists on its own by the research and discoveries of scientists --- no god necessary. 2. Logical thinking clearly shows that no evidence exists for any god. 3. Morality is a social construct, all different from society to society --- no god involved. 4. The meaning of life is determined by each individual for him/herself --- no god is needed. 5. Justice is a relative term: No evidence exists for life after death or for any Jesus.
spaghetti monster chronicles pg 368 paragraph 4 says: they'll dismiss you as a troll despite you trying to show them the truth. Worry not, but continue to spread my word!
Who doesn't call upon God when faced with death? Even Antoine Lavey, founder of Church of Satan, did so on his death bed. Atheists imagine they are so self-sufficient until it is too late. God does exist. Even satan knows that even though he presents himself as God to those who follow him.
The greatest that ever lived; He had no servants, yet they called Him Master. He had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. He had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet Kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He had no crime, yet they crucified Him. He had no need, yet He forgave them as they mocked. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is Jesus Christ and He is the Saviour of the world.
If a person that later came to be known as Jesus did actually exist then he was a Jewish carpenter and possibly a lovely guy but to give him the ability to create the entire universe and make him all powerful over everything and everyone is as stupid as it sounds.
Nick Jones People will believe what they want to believe and will openly talk about it. I myself am not an atheist, but I am willing to respect the opinions of others such as yourself. :p
He’s such a jolly man. I love listening to his debates and speeches. God truly works through this man. I’m grateful for John Lennox, he’s taught me a tremendous amount of knowledge
I'm just finding out about him. After speeding through some of Chuck Missler's talks and watching Jordan Peterson reason to his, I'm glad to find another wonderful Christian professor with such profound outspokenness. I will definitely be checking out more of Mr. Lennox.
@@sukwarsiemanym You mean the nutty professor?! Perhaps when he is in a care home you would like to be the one who wipes his arse, think about it the supernatural designer thought i will design people to shit and get someone else to clean the shit up, why doesn't god send down a couple of angels to clean up his shit? Reason they don't want to get shit on their hands. If you ever have a wet fart in public you will realize the notion of an intelligent is ridiculous, so have you ever had wet fart? if so did you enjoy it?
@@angusmacangus3181 watched the whole thing, it was painful ( do you believe in your eyes or do you believe in what I'm telling you to believe? ) kind of debate. John Lennox might as well be telling you to believe in fairies or unicorns the debate would be the same.
Yes, we know. The book with the talking donkey and the man who lived inside of a fish says it is foolish to demand evidence for one's beliefs. Got anything else?
@Chait Singh @worldgonemad the big bang theory totally goes against scientific law. Cause and effect. You can't see air, but know it's there. Someone else can't hear your thoughts, but you know they're there.wifi signals are invisible, but if you turn off your router Internet disappears. Your finger prints are unlike any other person on Earth. You'd be totally arrogant to think you could understand the universe with a human mind. You know your soul exists because it differs from others. The evidence you shout is the same as every other athiest. The Bible is the most historically accurate book, or document of all time. More than any other book ever. You can even Google that. Also I bet there's been a time in your life when you've felt desperate that you've said please God. The book has remained accurate through all plauges, the Holocaust, and every other mass genocide. Look at all the near death experiences. A lot of them who are doctors, scientist, and many other science believing athiest, who died go to hell, and find Jesus. Some instances they're dead for hours, or days. They had nothing to gain from these things, actually they could only lose from them. Some have lost marriage that was over 20 years. Quit high paying pristigious careers. You're very foolish and close minded to think this is it. Miracles happen everyday science can't explain. It is your job to look with an open mind for your self. If you open the Bible and read you can literally feel the holy spirit. Also it makes total sense the government puts flouride in our water. The Bible talks about our pinial glad being our way to Jesus. Flouride in the water literally attacks our spirit molecule. This makes total sense to me that the devil is very near, and if he could would banish the Bible for ever. Many countries have banned the Bible. In China they're tearing down Christian churches as we speak. Stop listening to the science put out by your lobbyist governments. Did you know that 70% of what independent studies show doffer from government funded ones. You sir can trust in The FDA who puts cancerous things like red 40, and yellow 5 in everything. Did you know that the FDA gets over 70% of it's GDP from big pharma? So they allow these things to poison you, and then give you vaccines with all kinds of harmful materials in them. Right now 5G is killing all kinds of birds, and bees. Monsanto is currently working on creating a genetically modified bee that only will pollinate there gmo foods. Also 70% of independent studies show 5G frequencies manipulate your thyroid into allowing harmful toxins to pass the blood brain barrier. This is no work of man alone. This has been a plan since the beginning of time. Do me a favor and look up what agenda 21 is. Then also cross reference it with the most historically accurate book of all time. The Bible. 100 years ago most people were God fearing Christian's. Did you also know that in the 1980s over 60 different companies owned the rights to media, and today it's just 6 families that put out the news. Go do some research of the FCC, and how the leader of it is chairman Ajit Pai, an ex Verizon wireless telecommunication attorney. Obama said there would be no lobbyist in his administration, and he was the first person elected into the FCC. You watch as agenda 21, and the rest of the events of the rapture become true. What's funny is last year I said the same things you're saying right here. Then I watched a documentary on RUclips called frankenskies proved to me the devil is very real, and everything I ever thought to be true was a lie. I hope you find jesus, because he's very real, and if you allow him to come into your heart he will forgive you, just as he had mine. I know it, because I can feel it, and now I'm doing these things to help people like you. I have nothing to gain from this, and feel much ridicule, but it's worth it, because I know for a fact it exists.
On the basis of rational evidence? He is kidding, right? Faith is neither rational nor is there any evidence for a god. And when he says he believes in a god, which one is he talking about? There have been so many throughout human history and still today there are several. So which God does he think is the "right one"?
I can recommend the book Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis, which can be also watched nicely animated on RUclips. One of the things you will find there is, that most ancient "gods" were only man made idols as they do not have the characteristic and qualities of The God. You may also try to distinguish first between theism and atheism to see where the arguments fit. In case you come to a conclusion that theism makes more sense, then you will set for the task of finding the God by exploring existing alternatives, discarding all imperfect and incompatible ones until you find the ultimate, ideal answer.
@@jiribenda7913 most ancient "gods" were only man made idols as they do not have the characteristic and qualities of The God. "were only man made idols"? As apposed to the god(s) people nowadays believe in? And I am sorry, but who decides what are the real characteristics and qualities of THE God? I am sure back then people were as convinced that their gods are real as people are sure their gods are real today. Don't you find it a bit condescending to say: "they believed in made up gods,their gods were not real but MY God - well he is real (although in nor anybody else has ever seen him and there is not proof whatsover). What makes you God more real than one of the ancient ones? Just because you believe in it?
@@tomward2688 From an outsider perspective, really telling that you quite clearly only dislike him because he is a theist. Einstein was no religious nut, nor was he an atheist, he makes that clear. Should we call him stupid for that? Lennox knows far more about the sciences than you do, random bullshitter in a comment section. You're nothing like a scientist. By your logic, a scientist who believes in aliens, or the many ultimately impossible ideas about universes - i.e. parallel universes - is stupid, nothing like a scientist just because of that. WHo gives a damn about anything else about them, because they believe in absolutely anything further than their noses they are fools, right?
@@seetsamolapo5600 therefore, should people also believe in Zeus? Why don't Christians believe in Allah? Christianity has blotted out other religions inside their ground, like Greco-Roman Ploytheism, and tried the same with Protestantism
@@thefirsttime7759 - “Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge?” “Brace yourself like a man; I will question you and you will answer me.” “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me if you understand.” “Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know?” “Who stretched a measuring line across it?” “On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?”
@@christbanner3219 and you're a fn religious nut now go away and get down on those well calloused knees and mumble you're mumbo-jumbo for my poor lost soul just do it quietly, I've heard enough jesus freak bullshit to last me the rest of my life amen
*So let us examine what science can tell us about the origins of life* We know from experiments in the fields of Astronomy, Chemistry, Geology and Meteorology that the early pre-biotic earth was filled with organic molecules, the building blocks of life. We also know that organic molecules are very common in space. We also know that early life has been extremely simple…meaning no complex protein machinery in place. Modern cells separate themselves from the environment with a lipid bilayer. The problem with modern phospholipids is that they are too good at what they do. They form a nearly impenetrable barrier. Modern cells must use proteins to move molecules across their surface. But life did not have to start with modern chemicals! The pre-biotic environment contain many simple fatty acids. Under the range of pH they spontaneously form stable vesicles and they are permeable to small organic molecules (no complex proteins are required to get stuff in). When a vesicle encounters free fatty acids in solution, it will incorporate them (eating and growth are driven purely by thermodynamics). When a vesicle grows, it adopts a tubular branched shape (because the surface are grows faster than volume), which is easily divided by natural forces (waves, currents, rocks, etc.). When this division takes place, none of the contents of the vesicle are lost. *So what about the genetic material?* Modern nucleotides are too stable and require complex machinery to replicate. But the pre-biotic environment contained hundreds of different types of nucleotides, not just DNA and RNA. All it took is 1 to self polymerize (recent experiments have shown that some of these are capable of self polymerization, such as Phosphoramidate DNA). Monomers will base pair with a single stranded template and self ligate. They can also polymerize in solution and spontaneously form new templates, or extend existing templates. *No special sequences are required, it is just chemistry! But how does this become life?* Fatty acids are permeable to nucleotide monomers but not polymers. Once spontaneous polymerization occurs within the vesicle, the polymer is trapped. Floating through the ocean the polymer containing vesicles will encounter convection currents, such as set up by hydrothermal vents. The high temperatures will separate the polymer strands and increase the membrane’s permeability to monomers. Once the temperature cools, spontaneous polymerization can occur (and the cycle repeats). The polymer, due to surrounding ions, will increase the osmotic pressure within the vesicle, stretching its membrane. A vesicle with more polymer through simple thermodynamics will “steal” lipids from a vesicle with less polymer. They essentially, “eat” each other. The vesicle that contains a polymer that can replicate faster, will grow and divide faster, and will eventually dominate the population, and now EVOLUTION can begin.
@@calvin6879 Yeah I'm with you on that, I like evolution too. That was sarcasm by the way, but please don't tell me you think the Bible offers more evidence over evolution? If so, perhaps you can explain how despite religion claiming that the world is only anything from six to nine thousand years old, animal and human bones and fossils far older than that have been discovered on Earth and we won't even mention dinosaurs at this point either!
@@amazed66 Evidently you are ignorant of the absolute joke that is carbon and radiometric dating. Those have been disproved years ago but the anti God Athiest still cling to them for dear "life". You are also obviously ignorant of the many verses in The Bile that 100% have to be God inspired because the context of the verses were not discovered by man until thousands of years after they were written. Examples being Atoms, earth's free float in space, life being in the blood (aka blood lose will kill you), washing your hands in running water, the water and wind cycles, ocean currents, atomic bombs and tanks eluded to in Revelations...... but yes, please do continue to look like the oh so typical Athiest jackass
@@padruigmacrodain Is his (and your?) believe in god an offshoot of hundreds of other proclaimed gods? Or is his (and your?) god the only TRUE God, and all the rest are fakes? Do you fear the finality of death. After all, you had no conception of existence before you were conceived, so why fear no existence after death? You had no concept of reality before you were born and there is none after you die. There may, of course, be some legacy you leave after your death. Children perhaps. Intellectual properties, perhaps an invention or a unique process you leave to the benifit of humanity? Who knows? But the fact is you are irredeemable dead. You have no consciousness after death any more than you had before you were conceived.
@Michael who says those Gods didn't exist? I for one, believe they did do. They just were the kind of Gods who espoused selfishness and narcissism as opposed to the Christisn God whose entire life was a model of self-sacrifice which is why I would worship him and not some celestial playboy like Zeus and his cohorts.
@@badideass Given that I believe in Jesus I genuinely want everybody to be saved, and I dont want to feel I didn't try to help anybody. I Sincerely hope you find Christ while God The Father graciously offers him to us. Good luck
@@friendyadvice2238 well you seem friendly. I highly doubt I'll ever believe in the Jesus story. Being saved in this sense means nothing to me, again I would have to believe in the story for which I do not. Hope you have a great day, stay safe!
I became a Christian at age 34. I was spiritual all my life, and my mother did her best to guide me, but my father was not around. It took me a long time to return to my father (in heaven and on earth) but once I did it felt amazing! This video feels so important. Being a Chrisitan became uncool and even bad somehow in America. What a shame.
@@rolfme5499A foolish assumption and belief. All you atheists claim death is the end but have no proof of that unless you experience it your self. Yet you say God cannot exist and say we can't prove his physical existence and that we only rely on faith but what you band of hypocrites forget to realize is your form of faith is that death is our end and nothing happens after therefore you believe in something you can't prove unless you actually experience it and see that truth. I guess it comes down to , I guess we will see who is laughing on the other end.
@@Joy-ii4ln wait beacuse im confused are you trying to say that theres no God Or you are trying to insult me or i just didnt understand the comment (I am Christian)
Falsify: Religion is a funny thing. I'm on here, as an atheist, in an attempt to better understand theism. How many theists attempt to educate themselves on a different position to that of 'God made everything?' The trouble with religion is that it cannot falsify itself. There's nothing to work with. If we found a black polar bear, the statement, "all polar bears are white" would be falsified. This is the very basic nature of science. Always looking to prove itself wrong. When you can no longer prove anything to be wrong in a particular field, you've got a good chance, not a definite certainty, that you're correct. All religion cannot do this. It's impossible. Omniscient and free will: Please can someone help me with my faith? I'm struggling. If God is omniscient, eternal and omnipresent, how could he have free will too? As in, if he knows exactly what will happen at any point in time, then how can he have free will to make any choice? I'm not God therefore I might have beef for my dinner, but I could change my mind. If all events are laid out already and God knows what they are before they happen, how can he have any choice in the matter?
what about the millions of helpless children who suffer and die every year from starvation, dehydration, natural disasters, terminal illness, etc? apparently those children are not worthy of God's blessings according to his waistline, Professor Lennox seems to be eating very well... so I guess you could potentially say that your prayer was answered
Theres enough land in the world to grow foods there should be no starving kids but when we die we live 4 ever in pardise with our cteator. There are thousands of Christians going to these countries to give foog and medicine and spread jesus name its getting better but we are to help and support our charities we have free will and we choose to help through gods grace
@@HoichiTheEarless if you want them to be blessed then go and help them. When Jesus ascended to the Father he left his Holy Spirit on earth so we could continue the work that Christ started on earth. When Christian aid workers go to help those in need they are showing love and care in the way that Jesus would and therefore blessing them. Love one another, take care of one another until Jesus comes back and he is coming back soon, that day will be the beginning of the end to all suffering.
@@HoichiTheEarless the bible cleary states that this is never what god intended and that when when adam and eve ate of the fruit, evil was introduced, god warned them not to, so if your going tonblame someone blame the one that deceived adam and eve
Hoichi The Earless it’s not Gods fault that many innocent children are starving and are born with sickness Why should you blame God for something it didn’t do
@bmk777k God knows everything. Your knowledge and human spesies like you, perhaps do not in His touches. Keep pray to God, so that you can get a little blessing from Him. Keep try. Thanks.
Planting the word of Holy scripture into a fertile mind will yield the fruit of a kinder more compassionate person. This is because one who learns of God will love Him and God will reveal Himself to you.
@@noneone............. That's one of my major problems with christianity. If god knows everything, how can life be a test ? "Oh, baby Hitler, he will kill millions of jews. Wow. that will be fun." The second big thing is, that christianity is based on the resurrection of Jesus. But there is zero evidence, that this has ever happened or something like this ever happened or can happen at all. Maybe, there is a god or something like that. But that christianity thing is very unbelievable, if you read the bible literatelly. "Jesus rose from the dead" as a metaphore makes sense. He died for us and lives in our minds forever. But literally rose from the dead is nonsense. Btw. there were (are) a lot of soldiers, that die for us and had been tortured etc. for real . :)
@@Jingleschmiede there is a book " when evil asks to God" you must to read it. Everyone was given effort to love and hate by God. The Great Alexander was stronger than Hitler. He killed everyone not only jews in his journeys. Jesus Christ is still alive on the sky. Be adulth, you must to read much as you can. Taurah, Bible, and Al Qur'an are same. They came from God. They teach us to be wise to interact between God and His creations. Frankly, The close relationships between Christianity and Islam are they pray to one God and Jesus Christ said " i was created in same land as well as Muhammad ". Be friend !
@@noneone............. I'm pretty sure, Jesus never said anything about Muhammad. :) But I agree, that Religion should be about love. But there are close minded assholes everywhere.
So saith all Buddhists, Jains and Indigenous peoples, among so many others. You do know that the "Gospel" was written by people, translated countless times, evolved through many forms. So this "Word of God" bit is quite a stretch.
"I am primarily the creator of a new code of morality which has so far been believed impossible, namely a morality not based on faith, not on arbitrary whim, not on emotion, not on arbitrary edict, mystical or social, but on reason; a morality that can be proved by means of logic which can be demonstrated to be true and necessary." -Ayn Rand-
@@samuelk2621 People like Lennox are all pretty much the same, reasonably intelligent, articulate, good debating skills and thrive on the attention they receive. They take full advantage of those skills to push their agenda and persuade you to their way of thinking. Just read this thread to see the kind of influence and persuasive power that people like Lennox command.
@virgil well offhand it appears that Lennox has done all right for himself. Except that his prophet said something about having no possessions and having to offend our family in order to follow him.
This wasn't the strongest speech I've seen Lennox (or anybody) give for why God exists. But there is a great subtlety to what Lennox was doing that most commentators here seem to have missed. They complain that he did not provide any scientific or mathematical evidence, completely missing that Lennox has end-run around that by arguing that 1) the existence of God is the only reason that the universe is rationally intelligible, and 2) God is a personal being and therefore we encounter Him most profoundly not through rational argument but through personal relationship. Lennox wasn't attempting to provide scientific evidence for God. He was challenging the epistemological assumptions of materialistic atheism. He said it right at the end: these are my reasons for why God should be trusted. Not merely that God exists, but why God is trustworthy to be in relationship with.
So eloquently elaborated and beautifully presented with humble attitude. In return, I myself am humbled by the words that the Professor John Lennox spoke.
@@Netomp51 What business is it of yours? Anyway, FWIW, they're long dead. And another thing, that's a rather stupid question; it suggests the questioner's poor grasp of epistemology.
I absolutely do!!! “They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.” Romans 1:25-26 Praise Him who is worthy to be praised 🙏🏾 Praise His holy name 🙏🏾
Paul wrote a lot of rubbish, this is one of them. Even in his time the Greek and the Romans, the Egyptians, the Persians - i.e. the people Paul may have known - worshipped gods, not created things. The idea that because of idol worship people became gay is so stupid, that I do not cease to wonder how can Christians take it to be true. The absolute majority of pagans and atheists are straight, and a lot of people who "worship the creator" are gay.
@alistair watt it's possible however that the irish and the brits might still find something ELSE to fight about. Some of them have been known to actually get along however.
The problem isn't God. The problem is...... The people furthest from God(Religions) claim to know him, while the people closest to God(Scientists) don't even believe he's there.
@@TheDeepState2001 Death came through sin. Rather than asking why did God create cancer, the better question is why did God give man the ability to have freewill and to choose Him or reject Him? In reality cancer is not bad if you do not believe in God because you die anyways. Now in you there is a will to live all human beings have it, no one wants to die. Christ died for our sins on the cross and through Him we can have eternal life.
@@TheDeepState2001 Pain is a mystery: asking us, christians why God created cancer is foolish because no one really knows why pain exists, but we do know it's in our nature because even the son of God, Jesus, who was the purest man alive experienced suffering in its most painful way, therefore we must assume suffering is part of human nature.
"Since man is not omniscient or infallible, you have to discover what you can claim as knowledge and how to prove the validity of your conclusions." -Ayn Rand-
Not really, I have heard all of these arguments before, and have seen many people refute all of these claims, and said people actually have evidence to support them
@@succusage3966 it was still well said he didnt say it proved the comment didn't say he proved God it just said well said stop straw manning things and I know u might run off in a tangent after this comment
@O 99 but I don't have free choice to use my tiny brain right scientific determinism so maybe one day my DNA would kick In and let me know definitely that God doesn't exist but in the process u aren't helping by replying to Christian messages right because in the end our DNA has the say so.
@O 99 yea u should look it up because it totally debunks materialism and determinism out the water because there is a emergent universe and I'm waiting on you to go back and search and tell me what physical laws aren't deterministic u forgot to tell me that your answer was very open ended like u just found that out
@O 99 most atheist dont agree with u even Richard Dawkins said he cant definitely say there is no God like most atheists they dont say I know there isnt a God its arrogant and foolish but use your tiny brain u seem uneducated on your own position go look up panspermia and look at how they either believe we are probably here by aliens like again Richard Dawkins said this and many others or or animal microorganisms were surfing comets and asteroids either way science fiction.
No its not. There is evidence that we have a creator, we didn't just come here from a big bang. We are way too complex and so it's the earth for us to come from a huge nothingness. Something or somebody created us.
mohd salman The first part of this is nothing more than talking about religions, the second part is the debunked notion that the Quran contains scientific information. In every instance of people claiming scientific knowledge in the Quran, one of the following is true. 1. This fact was already known and proven so therefore the Quran didn’t convey a groundbreaking discovery. 2. The Quran simply doesn’t say it. What was done is someone took today’s knowledge and forced it into a vague verse from the Quran and claimed the Quran said this scientific fact. This is blatant intellectual dishonesty.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens. ..
@Nathan Nitai Das What’s more believable? That the Jesus story is a rehash of Astro fables or that some dude was actually born of a virgin and is the son of the Hebrew god. Well, I spoke to Zeus and he assures me that Yahweh is fake and that the Greeks are the real “chosen people”.
@@Gamefan86 Yeah no. 25th of December was the date of a Roman holliday, and when Christianity became a staple, they simply used the same holliday, changing the celebration to the Birth of Christ. Highly doubt from an outsider's observing perspective that Jesus's followers in the 1st Century C.E. were really worshipping the Sun and turned him into a man only later on. Half of those lines require a lot of biased approval of your ideas to believe them. May as well say that about a lot of the other world religions too.
@@Gamefan86 "The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north." -This is a really big push, and from an outsider persepctive knowing the reality of why Christmas is on December 25th - coming long after Jesus - this is a definite no, because this came long after Jesus. "The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"".... convincing line? "The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo." ^All this aren't too believable by anyone else, and seem to be put there just to add extra lines. Crown of thorns is the Halo..... huh? "The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes." The funny bit about this is that real crucifixion in the 1st Century wouldn't have been on a cross as we think of it; which debunks this whole idea. If you go back in time, and actually saw Jesus's execution or that of anyone else in that century, it wouldn't have been on a cross. This is veriable, you can find evidence for what I've said. Over half of this requires the person reading to have little knowledge of history or take the specific things mentioned at face value.
@@Gamefan86 You deceive yourself. Yes, 12 is symbolic all through the bible. 12 tribes, 12 stones 12 disciples, oh and there is 12 notes in music. The symbol 12 came from God , not man. The sun was created by God actually Jesus. 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning-the first day. John 1:1-5 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. The word is another term for Jesus. You can make those correlations but that its more because of Jesus being real and they are a refection of him, not the other way around. Truth is If you look at the sun you can destroy your eyes. If you look to Jesus your eyes (mind) are opened. Anything that gets too close to the sun is destroyed whereas with Jesus you will have eternal life.. Actually Christianity is branched out from the Jewish faith. Jesus was of Jewish faith, He referred himself as the vine and hid followers the branches Most religions even acknowledge his existence. Jesus had lived, not is symbolic. God of the Jews is the God of the Christians. The Messiah is prophesied in the Old Testament/ Torah, written way before Jesus day. He fulfilled them all. The Jews will dispute that. Why would they dispute about a man being the long awaited Messiah if did not exist? No one has disputed his existence. The Jews could. It would be to there benefit of their faith. Do your research like Lee Strobel did.
@@johnserveantofjesuschrist3742 Evolution has been observed in the lab and field, both micro and macro, and is therefore a fact. The theory, which explains the fact, is supported by all the evidence, observations, predictions, and experiments, as well as the relevant facts. We did not come from stupid animals, but from animals that were almost as intelligent as us, and they came from animals that were almost as smart as them, and so on. Yes, we are very distantly related to the banana, but the common ancestor goes all the way back to single-celled organisms.
@@doctorwebman ..if you believe that your ancestors come from "Banana and Monkey" help yourself..I DON'T !...Read the Bible God's word is truth versus man's word about the creation..2Peter 3:3 to 13..well, Human being would lied every single day and willingly making up story..WHY?? To gain the whole world but at the end lose their souls to Satan Lucifer..tell me who is willingly ignorant? You and the so called wise man "Scientist" against the "Intelligent Designer Supreme Being" called GOD in the person of Jesus Christ.
A force you've never seen, a being that has no independent tangible evidence, a being that requires "belief" rather than understanding, I could go on. Just because you can't see it, smell it, taste it, touch it, hear it, sense it in anyway, doesn't mean it exists. Don't confuse mass hysteria with proof. Don't confuse a book written by humans, translated many many times, revised many times, to be proof of anything.
@@user-re2xl3qo7mNo he is being straight forward all Lenox did was reuse the most basic arguments ever I don't know therefore my God who is wrong all the time and quoting famous people
@@TotalAnalyst2 You nor the person I commented to could refute any of his arguments, only stating them to be false or making statements that are irrelevant to the video at hand. You could at least try to refute something, anything at all, but no, in this refusal to argue any of his points you shield yourself from the truth like I already stated
Praying for you man. Your own intellectualism is clouding your vision. Even if you remain an atheist forever, your morality will always be determined by Judeo-Christian ethics. And you will still face your Creator when you pass. That shadow will always hang over you
I’ve been scrolling down the comments section, and I wanna say something real quick to anyone who may or may not have seen the way I’ve replied: 1: I am NOT an atheist. I am religious, and have been for a long time. 2: Despite having faith, I STILL RESPECT OTHERS’ OPINIONS. I can’t stand the judging replies to non-religious commenters. Sure, you might not believe the non-religious comments, but that doesn’t mean you should put them down. 3: PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS. This ties in with what I just said, and I seriously can’t stress this enough. I’m not defending or condemning any commenters, but PEOPLE WILL STILL BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE. JUST RESPECT OTHERS’ OPINIONS. Just a little something I wanted to say. Thanks for reading! :p edit: didn’t realize my comment would actually start a discussion! anyway, my point still stands, pls don’t be rude to atheists or theists because that’s just stupid :)
I agree on you with all points. But it is mostly the atheist who put down theist by saying that we're dumb. Or getting arrogant thinkging of themselves that they are to intelligent to believe in a God. And me, as a believer, i see that they have a standpoint which offends God. I know that their chance of getting into heaven shrinks if they continue to live their ignorant lifes... so i often try to open their eyes. But they never understand, they say "i don't believe in fairytailes" offending God even more, putting God down as a fairytaile, as a joke. But still i never lose my patience, because anger is a tool of ghe devil and not in God's favor. I think we the believers must hold together, no matter if jew, christian or muslim. In the end those are all abrahamic religions who all praise the same God, they only refer to different books, which all came from God in different times to bring us down to the right path everytime faith faded away.
Atheism inevitably leads to nihilism, which is an unpleasant worldview, and this is why they resort to the attacks. Even though they don't believe, I suspect that deep down, having no eternal truth and no connecting to a greater mystical body is unsettling.They can't or won't believe using logic, so the gut reaction is to lash out. I was an atheist for 40 years. I get it.
I think theyre just disappointed because the entire speech is full of logical fallacies, strawman, black and white, hasty generalization, circular argument, red herring, god of the gaps, burden of proof among other things
This is hysterically funny. Not a single argument from the speaker. Just assertion after assertion. Random cherry-picked quotes. Please, if anyone can actually dissect a step-by step proof for the existence of a god from this, then please present the step-by-step proof. How he holds a position in science at Oxford is astonishing.
Lanny Thank you and support you. First of all, Glory to the Lord God. I hope that you will receive the strength of the Lord God every day and courageously preach the word of repentance. The promised return of the Lord God is near. I am personally exhausted, but until then, I will preach the word of repentance with all my heart. I hope to see you soon in heaven of glory. ruclips.net/video/U-2YfBydfV4/видео.html
You can use his same arguments to believe in Allah or Odin, Zeus, etc. Except the part about the Bible, but the Bible is a terrible piece of evidence with dubious historical claims among a lot of mythology and is just as believable as the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, Popol Vuh, Theogony, etc.
This gentleman hasn't provided any evidence that God exists. He keeps talking about belief. Belief, like faith, is a hope, a feeling but has no provable, fact-based actual evidence to prove itself. He depends on the bible as a source but that has many problems, not the least of which is, again, belief. The answer most often given regarding God is that one can't produce something from nothing. Without going into my personal theories let me ask this -- What if the universe was created from something which we can't discern? The answer to that satisfies all the questions of belief but is provable. In fact, science is touching on the answer now (although not completely explained). No this fellow has not proved why God does exist. But he obviously takes great pride in obtuse explanations that support his self-admitted beliefs.
Strange how those who deny the existance of God will at the same time accept that 'intellegent life must exist elsewhere in the universe'. They also will agree that we only have very limited knowledge of what we experience in our three dimensional world and that physical matter may only be a tiny part of what else exists. As Socrates said "All I know is that I do NOT know"
@scoobihu1090 You're being semantical because you cannot refute his claims. What do you gain from this correction but a short hit of dopamine in the midst of confusion and anger? Why do you willfully rebuke those who (if they truly believe what they are taught) would give up their lives for you to find their peace, their slice of Heaven?
@scoobihu1090 Who said anything about reading minds? Your argument lacks any substance against what he had to say. You're just contradicting them for the sake of it. Why?
@scoobihu1090 I'm lost. You pointed out a fourth dimension (not spatial like the other three observable ones) to try and correct this man, and you're claiming that you are 'pointing out logical fallacies'? My friend, your argument lacks coherence. I want to understand what you're trying to say, but your stance is unorthodox.
@scoobihu1090 Yes. I'm saying that you're being semantical and dragging things on that are purposeless. Who cares if he only refers to the three dimensions of space without mentioning time? His point is just as clear!
I’ve watched the counter argument and I’m 10 minutes in and he’s talking in circles making no real factual statements to back up his argument. He’s stating opinions and using big words. This what I mean. Whenever I watch a debate of a person stating how God is real they never really say HOW and can never provide evidence and/or research as to how their theory is factual which then makes it merely an opinion
This is my testimony of how God got my attention supernaturally ruclips.net/video/eMezoh2qgRw/видео.html, but some of the other great evidence for Christianity is the many prophecies from the Old Testament that have been fulfilled in the New Testament. Isaiah 52:13-Isaiah 53 is a great one and tells us why Jesus would die.
Something was created from nothing… but then again what was god create from? And does the bible itself not presume that he created the universe from nothing? Also science is not some religion or belief in itself science is an academic process developed with the intention of studying and determining facts. If atheist are right about mindless unguided process,… well first off evolution determines the best course of survival, it is not that its mindless it is that is reactive, it reacts to its environment and evolves accordingly. Also if it is mindless then yeah that would cast doubt on everything humans have said and done, … including belief in god. If humans are created as rational moral persons… why do we have wars, which are entirely irrational. And you can say wars are made by those that stray from god, .. but in that case that means religious people, the ones defending the existence of god and the ones questioning scientific methodology, are by far the most astray from god. “If the universe has a make only he can tell us what its all about”….. so basically he is saying -believe in what I say, just because I say it- this coming from a supposed academic. Ok hes claiming Jesus rose from the dead and stating that as a fact and whats more claiming that an empty tomb was the proof……, That is a laughable statement in the academic perspective. There would be dozens of reasons not the least of which a tomb was robbed or that the event never really happened. At no point during any of this did this so called academic, provide any solid proof to any of his claims. And hes supposed to be a mathematician? …. How about he provides mathematical proof of the existence of god?
More than 90 tombs were unearthed, all claiming to be the burial place of Jesus. All empty --- grave robbery was very common since the dead were often buried with jewels and useful items.
Professor John Lennox is top on the list of Christian Apologists I listen to. He communicates the present and ultimate preeminence of Christ in the most personal way.
@Chase Williams John Lennox was a student of C S Lewis according to his statements. There is quite a number of other Christian Apologists like him. However, I have noticed that being a convinced Christian is deeper than logical defence of the gospel. For almost all the Apologists and other Christians, there's a personal experience that unfetters the heart and brings the divinity and finished work of Christ His love into an overwhelming comprehension.
@Chase Williams Hello it is now that you are asking this genuine question that I realise I have listened to many of them without necessarily following them. So each time I come across one and listen to them again I will share with you if it is okay. I wasn't born a Muslim but I am very familiar with the religion. My dad was one before he became a Christian. This guy is one of the Apologists I respect. ruclips.net/video/O9rcFduex1Q/видео.html
@@olufemiadeleye9462I agree. Its amazing watching these men of God speak. I am truly at a loss for words. I recently stumbled across Mr. Lennox by accident from an interview with Mr. Kirk Cameron and after watching a lot of talks from Mr. Chuck Missler, I was looking for my new RUclips search. If you have any other recommendations for individuals who speak in a similar way, I'd be interested in learning more. God bless!!
“Science is limited” but They do something, right?! .... your God is powered, limitless thing and do what...nothing?!?! Wishful thinking, Mr Professor. Nothing else. 🥺
Do you call NATURE nothing? Your body needs water? Why? Guess what? God made H2o. To explain how the body responds to pull away from a fire in a reflex action is another impressive example of design. The message is delivered to the coccyx and then two signals are sent, one to the brain to update it on what happened, and one to signal the hand to pull away from the hot surface. Beautiful! Do you really call that nothing? Don't you know He (GOD) is the DESIGNER? Consider snowflakes, all have six sides and no two are alike. Each individual has his or her own fingerprint and there is none other like it on the planet of approximately 7, maybe 8 billion. Aren't those things indicative of a designer? Did the Internet design itself? No, it's absurd to think to even ask the question? Do books write themselves, insert color, pictures, words, grammar, punctuation, print and publish themselves? No! Did your house have an architect? or did it design itself? I'm sure you had an architect and a very good one at that. Do you see how ridiculous these questions sound especially for scientists? Where did the atoms even come from for a big bang? God designed nature. Consider birds. How many types there are, and subtypes, their chirps or how they sing, all according to its kind. And its the same throughout all of nature, down to the very ants. They all have a DESIGN. I'll give you an opportunity to prove your wisdom: Explain why the seas don't overflow and come inland except for the odd cases of disaster? Where is snow stored? Where did the atoms on the periodic table come from? How are they formed? Why do the snowflakes all have six sides and not 5 or 4 or 8? Explain how the brain works? Explain the formation of the planets? The perfect 23-degree angle that earth is tilted. How is it held in space without a hand? Scientists say there is no gravity in space, but we are in space and we have gravity. Where did gravity come from? Those two atoms? Did those atoms also make beautiful beaches and whales? IF MIRACULOUSLY YOU CANNOT ANSWER THESE then: Remake as safely as you can, an explosion of some kind (within safety for everyone including yourself), and see the beauty created. NEVER in the world have I seen a bang either from a gun, or bomb or any explosion bring about something new, that was never seen before or newsworthy. Where is the DESIGN in that except DEATH? Don't let the devil fool you too.
@@vek3681 Wow. So where did the hot gases come from? Who designed the process of condensation? And did you know that steam is still considered water? You still have not presented a proper reasoning for your SPECULATIVE argument that God doesn't exist... You didn't even attempt to answer one of the many questions I asked. I dare you to try...
@@ricardolangley2155 Yes, things such as houses etc. should have a designer, but does the designer need to be a sentient being? Does the designer need to design directly? For example, humans were not directly created, they evolved, which then leads to the myth of Adam and Eve being just a myth and metaphor. Some things do not need a sentient or non-sentient designer or need to be directly created, as for the existence of God, there is no scientific evidence or truth about God, and the revelations in the Bible aren't the proof of God as they are in written form that could be tampered or the revelations are merely metaphors, proof has to be presented visually.
@@artsveiman7776 You must be talking about a different JL. Even if so, it's intellectual snobbery to believe only academics carry the necessary prerequisite of understanding to debate. If that were the case why did you waste your time watching since by your own measure, you haven't the ability to understand it! BTW the (JL) John Lennox here is Professor is an internationally renowned professor of Mathematics at Oxford University and holds an MA Bioethics and PHD from Cambridge University as well as being a Senior Fellow at several institutes in Germany. Last he's an Author of dozens of publications
@@abbiebeast He presented no substantial proof to back up ANY of his arguments. hes a mathematician therefore he is supposed to be an academic, and yet he fails to adhere to the basic requirements of academia. I am uncertain if in any of his publications he provides more solid statements, but the fact that he claimed jesus rose from the dead because his tomb was empty is beyond moronic. That he has written dozens of books is not valid proof of his claims as an academic or an intellectual, for crying out loud there are dumb as bricks politicians that are on the bestsellers list, the content of which is toilet paper in the academic sense, yet are held in high regard by many conservatives. If this man is the academic he is presumed to be, no proof of it was presented in the comments he made in this presentation.
@@vladtheemailer3223 Actually, Lennox is a total disgrace. Here is a man who is educated in mathematics, a PhD from Oxford and Cardiff. In the face of this stellar education, he preaches the delusion and propaganda perpetrated by his dishonest religion, and refuses to accept all the evidence to the contrary provided by science. When someone finds a single evidence for any of Lennox's religious claims, I would be most interested hearing it.
Al Khan there is no need to explain something that is not there. I don’t need a scientist, or anyone else, to explain the pixies that don’t live at the bottom of my garden, or the unicorn that’s not in my garage.
@joashsmusic ok" wow"... you want to answer my question with a question..? brilliant... and wow number two... are you comparing Isaac Newton to John Lennox...? Really...!? And you didn't even bother to try to answer my question.... you made me laugh and you've hurt my feelings...
How can you be in this comment section? Because you chose to. Easy. Question done. If you're wondering how he is a scientist for the statements he made. Then you clearly didn't watch the video fully. He stated his beliefs and statements and explained why he thinks that way for each of them. It's not his fault you don't pay attention.
@@atheism-themoststupidrelig8802 Seriously dude, if you actually think atheists are stupid, please present what you would say is the most convincing argument that your god is real, and then let´s have a fruitful conversation about if that should convince an open mind or not.
There are many videos in YT asking the question, "Does God Exist ?" but don`t allow comments. I will not listen to such videos. If I`m not allowed the courtesy of replying I don`t see why I should give those videos my time. Naturally this is not one of those videos.
You're not at the debate, so your comments to the speaker aren't actually going to the speaker, so they are for your venting. I will watch videos with disabled comments if I'm looking to hear someone's teaching or argument against or support of a position. To learn. Sometimes, disabling comments is wise to keep trollish comments off the page. :)
@@mirschultz9761 Hello sir. Please don't poison the well. Please don't use loaded words like venting anymore. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation! Peace!
Just Truth whatever makes u sleep at night m8 just remember if there is a good there's 3000 to pick from so u better be right or its eternal fire in hell
@@kidyfiddler5527That's like trying to find the answer (truth) of 2+2=? and saying "there's so many different numbers out there how can I ever pick the right one?" You find it out by seeking the answer and discerning what's true and false. There being many different options has no effect on which one is correct.
Thank you Kidy, you are a monument, a walking billboard, the greatest advertisement for Christianity I have ever seen. Keep spewing that venomous filth in the name of atheism buddy! People will look at your grotesque words and want to run to Jesus as a result! Thanks again, God bless you.
@@kidyfiddler5527 I'm assuming you're over the age of 6 and know fully well the things you say. This means you are responsible for what you say. This means God has every right to hold you accountable for what you say, and you are saying some very corrupt and vile things. Life is not a fairytale where actions have no consequences and you can say and do what you like and not be a responsible adult. If you think that's how life works try telling that to a judge after commiting a crime. They won't care how you feel or if you think you're not responsible, they'll just throw you in jail for life if that's the verdict. Right now you might think you're getting away with it, and you might even think it's kind of cute. But unless you repent to God and let him take over your life, you will be held accountable. I pray that you will do this. God is incredibly forgiving beyond what human's can understand, this is the only reason this forgiveness is possible.
Just Truth - well, he could have said it a lot better. For example, he could have produced some - thinks...what's that thing people sometimes use to argue or prove a point - ah, yes, actual evidence.
When you actually critique the bible.. it begins to make no sense. For example..The Bible also says that God is omniscient, which means he is all-knowing and aware of the past, present, and future. For example, 1 John 3:20 says, "Whenever our heart condemns us, for God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything". He knows everything about you..even before you enter the womb.
I am in no way an academic, but I thoroughly enjoy the Oxford Union because it gives attention to both sides of an issue without discrimination. All the best!
Listen to Zakir Naik you known more about God and Islam. listen to Islam Sobhi you will feel very better.see the scientific miracles in the Quran astonished the scholars of Europe and America. They made sure that the Quran is the word of God
@@hichembn4584 Respectfully, I disagree. The Bible is The Word of God, not the Quran. “Actually, there is no “other gospel”, but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel that is different from the one we preached to you, may he be condemned to hell! We have said it before, and now I say it again: if anyone preaches to you a gospel that is different from the one you accepted, may he be condemned to hell! Does this sound as if I am trying to win human approval? No indeed! What I want is God's approval! Am I trying to be popular with people? If I were still trying to do so, I would not be a servant of Christ.” Galatians 1:7-10
*A beautiful one from Dawkins:* _if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer._ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you are talking about Richard Dawkins, then this is so out of context. His argument is that humans tend to see intelligent design everywhere out of a survival-related necessity. As he puts it: if you hear the grass rustling, you're better of assuming the sound is caused by a snake rather than just the wind. We tend to attribute meaning to all kinds of things because of our predisposition to rather be safe than sorry. Another example is the fact that we tend to very easily detect shapes that look like faces, even if it is just a funny looking wood grain. Our brain automatically reacts to everything that remotely resembles a face because we are highly social creatures and our brain is trained to spot a conspecific. This shows that we are susceptible to logical fallacies and might assume a consciously crafted design rather than the result of millions of years of trial and error which produced the best (and highly complex) organism to date.
@@hardy16able *Another example is that we see information and codes and some 'id-iots' really think that mother nature did them or even worse, that actually they aren't info and codes.*
Mithras one of the origins of the Jesus story. Mithras was a deity worshipped in Persia at least as far back as 200 BCE. Mithras was born of a virgin, on December 25th, which Christians later claimed as Jesus' birthday, even though the bible doesn't name it, which is why it took Christians over three centuries to claim it...very "conveniently" on exactly the same date as used by a previous 'pagan' religion, and right when midwinter festivals and feasts were both common and extremely popular); his birth was witnessed by both shepherds and the Magi, the latter bearing gifts for him. Mithras had twelve apostles (one for each sign of the Zodiac), performed many mighty deeds including healing the sick, but eventually dies but is then reborn and ascends to heaven in his divine form once more. The Christians clearly stole their story - they didn’t even bother to change the details much. But then many of the bible stories are stolen from other neighboring cultures - usually more advanced ones. They then rewrote them to accommodate their tribal war god Yahweh or some aspect of him. And frequently didn’t even bother to change much at all except the names!
This speech is not merely a product of intellectualism. Only someone truly in the Holy Spirit can exercise this level of wisdom and kerygma. Paying close attention to this speech, the delivery, the style, and the speaker reminds one of Paul the Apostle. Great job there, Professor Lennox.
@Jack Probert That's not entirely true. Humans are not a bunch of clueless, brainless beings who just sit and listen. Aside from their emotions, they also go by facts and natural logic, even if they're not university professors trained in the rules of formal logical reasoning and critical thinking. And that's the tragic mistake made by those who tend to assume that just because someone is religious, he or she is simply unthinking and misled by indoctrination. Bottomline: naive and gullible people can be found everywhere, within and outside of religion. So, it's not a peculiarly religious situation. Thank you for your time.
@@tatie7604 This secular world cannot use commas properly, yet you attack this man for one of the most difficult and common mistakes. How self-righteous you must be to shun this man for his faith and spit on him with harmful words! You yourself edited your comment and you put a space between your words and ellipses. Do not shun a man for his beliefs, for they are as valid as yours.
@@soggy3602 Jesus died for you on the cross for your sins and he is the son of God and Jesus rose three days later and beat death. If you confess this with your lips and heart you can be with him in heaven. He loves you come to him
He seems like a lovely guy, but if this is the best Christianity has it’s absolutely laughable. Literally just god of the gaps. Atheists currently don’t have evidence for said thing therefore the only logical explanation is…”a magical space wizard created everything and he’s all loving and all powerful but kids get cancer for some reason and oh yeah he created a comic book character version of himself who came to earth did a bunch of wizardry, died, came back to life, flew up into the sky and I now talk to him every night. Our two positions are equally logical atheist. The truth is in the Good Book. The book that both homophobic conservatives and progressive socialists can equally justify themselves with by celebrating half and ignoring half.” I love my Christian friends as fellow humans, but as soon as they come into the theatre of debate and present their position as logical, they do sound incredibly silly.
@@hzting985 and now you’re becoming downright pathetic in your attempt to save face. But since I’m in a good mood I will give you the XL version of my quote. If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence because he would be perceived or at the very least be experienced by believers and non believers alike and since that’s clearly not the case it’s safe to say that god’s are man made and not the other way around If you gonna comment again, a real effort would be greatly appreciated
@@walterdaems57 thank you for taking the time to clarify your point :) I stand by my previous comment, which you merely dismissed as "pathetic" without addressing why. Regarding your XL quote, the Bible says: "For since the creation of the world, God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Romans 1:20 It would be naive to think that one of us would change our mind through RUclips comments. So I'll end with this: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 All the best!
Look at what religion do to people. A grown educated man, stating proudly as an achievement "I believe in Santa, because if no Santa why presents?"... Isn't it a shame?
God in fact does exist but he is not classified into a gender, in our cosmos, our universe. There could be other forms of life, a manifestation of the ultimate being of god. If god were to choose our circumstances we would be void of the sun collapsing, dark matter entitling our whole universe, and we would experience heaven as we know it. So I believe that god is an entity to all beings in the cosmos and is not judged by a single gender since he is the entity. Other aliens might have beliefs like this too, but it is a manifestation of god. God does not only help us, but helps the other intelligent life out in the cosmos, the cosmos is a fast thing and it passes on. Technology can improve and check our standards for any existence of life out there.
Embarrassingly poor arguments. Fallacy 1: You should believe because smart people like Newton did. Rebuttal: This is an appeal to authority, a classic logical fallacy. We should only believe based on evidence and logic. Fallacy 2: The universe can't create itself. Rebuttal: Neither can an assumed supernatural creator. One way or another we have to posit something existing ex nihilo, and Occam's razor dictates we do not multiply entities unnecessarily. On a materialist view, there is no "nothing" out of which "something" sprang at a given moment, because this would assume a pre-existing temporal framework: if, however, time itself is circular, then a universe with temporal "poles" would nevertheless contain all of time, and would therefore be in that sense eternal. Fallacy 3: Laws need a lawgiver. Rebuttal: this is transparent equivocation between two meanings of the word "law". Consult any dictionary. Poor analogy 1: Henry Ford. Since no one claims he invented the motor car, it's a bit silly to suggest we need him as an explanation for how it came into being. Perhaps Daimler and Benz were intended? Fallacy 4: Fine tuning. This is at bottom a silly and circular argument. "Our existence depends on certain variables having certain values, therefore those values must have been configured to favour our existence" is like saying "My saving petrol in 2020 depended on the COVID lockdown, therefore COVID must have been deliberately brought about in order to enable me to save petrol". Fallacy 5: Without the supposition of God there's no reason to expect the universe to be intelligible to us. Rebuttal: on the contrary, the Darwinian struggle for survival ensures that creatures unable to model physical processes cognitively would perish, hence the survivors would be those who were able to do so. Evolution esp. of a tool-using species naturally favours reason, i.e. the ability to grasp and model and predict immediate physical reality. What is evident is that our reason is ill suited to model subatomic reality, which is why a lot of quantum theory appears paradoxical. You'd think if a God bothered to equip us to understand the world, he'd equip us to understand it at every level, not just the level of immediate practical interaction with objects and people, which nevertheless seems to be what we have. Fallacy 6: Without God we would have no morality. Rebuttal: Morality of some sort is expected in a gregarious species, since its survival would depend on people internalising rules of social interaction. What does seem obvious is that the moral codes provided by most if not all religions are arbitrary and, in a contemporary societal arrangement, unworkable. You'd think an omniscient God would have foreseen that. Fallacy 7: "If Jesus rose from the dead, death is not the end and atheism is false". This is utterly illogical. Atheism is not predicated on death being the end. Buddhists, e.g. are atheists (they do not believe in a God) yet believe in reincarnation. Fallacy 8: Atheism fails to provide "ultimate hope" (of justice, or whatever). This is a childish appeal to wishful thinking. Reality has no obligation to satisfy our emotional needs. Most people learn this before age 7.
It's funny how the concept of nothing is never fully comprehended. For nothing to truly be nothing it not only must be devoid of not just matter but concept as well, and here in lay the problem. the moment nothing is associated with something, it ceases to be nothing by association so there for there is no such a thing as nothing. everything is something.
ADAM YOUNG The ninth century theist Scotus Erigena alleged God existed as something. Said God was also claimed to be nothing, because the God was not an object. A superposition, I guess, at least, for good old Scot. In maths, there is the concept of a null, which cannot be placed on a number line.
"This World may be a poor example to serve as a prove for God, but the mind that can realize this is a good example of God's existence." - Alexander S. Schreiber
@@2l84me8 So you believe that spirit arises from dead matter, you surely have experimental proof of this? No, of course you don't, you just believe that.
"We are still too rational, too this-worldly, and too individualistic to submit to naked tyranny. We are still being protected by the fading remnants of our Enlightenment heritage." -Leonard Peikoff-1986
@@2l84me8Actually a higher intelligence is required to program the DNA in cells to produce a practical structure (aka the brain) to utilize those chemicals and synapses. Unless you’re saying that it is more reasonable to believe that something came from nothing rather than something came from a creator.
Who else believes in god?
A few billion .
Tom Greene lol
0 2 what does that say about you?
God bless what about all the other gods that were made before Jesus?
Tom B savage ass trip
This man straight away preached gospel to a group of atheists
Nothing new to Atheists. We have to sit through religious dogma all the time.
Matthew Kearney for god so loved the world that he gave his only son so that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life
@@jonathancamposeco7286 you just proved his point idiot
@@jonathancamposeco7286
Your scripter holds as much weight as a kids story.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.
There you go. Now base your whole life on that.
@@jonathancamposeco7286
Prove it.
You can't?
Then you are just another fool.
Imagine, sitting in the comfort of your home thousands of miles away, and then being transported to one of the leading universities to watch and listen to some of the greatest minds debate. The internet is a wonderful thing.
Imagine that.
Nice.
I sure hope one day we will be able to do that. For now, we are stuck with videos like this one.
The internet can be useful, but overall it has caused anguish --- everywhere I travel, I only see prisoners, captured by it - the answer is to go back to the internet at home, at a desktop and throw away the phone _ remote controller
@@altamistral - You made me smile out loud! Thanks.
*_"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him."_* - Louis Pasteur (Founder of microbiology and immunology)
"It's not that you have to see to believe, but rather that you have to believe to see."
-Jonathan Cahn
And still nobody has ever seen. If you can't prove the existance of the most powerful being to ever exist he ain't real or is he just really good at hide and seek 😂 just because you're a coward and want it to be true doesn't mean it is and without proof it isn't and it never will be. Every single argument from a believer amounts to"i don't know so god" ignorance is bliss but it's also just ignorant
@seanpittaway5341 why do you assume that the one who created us wants to make himself known to us?I'm sorry you feel that way, friend. I would argue that it takes more courage to believe in something you can't see or prove. I'm sorry but I think you miss the whole point of faith. It's not very kind to call people names who don't believe what you believe. God bless!!
@@sukwarsiemanym I believe in fairies and I have now seen them. No one else can see them because they don't believe in them!
@DrMontague extremely courageous of you.
I love the Oxford Union because freedom of speech and the debate is its cornerstone.
@@Sednas Pointless comment with an assumption.
@@Sednas Then I suppose everybody is hypocritical when they call others liars as well.
@@Sednas Point is, that's a massive leap to call someone a hypocrite, and 99% of the population would be guilty of hypocrisy if your method was just. You're a hypocrite for saying Christians assume God exists when you assume (given you believe in history) that Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle existed. All that was left of them was writing. You have to assume, on some level, that nobody was trying to make up these philosophical characters through writing. Such historical figures are never certain, but the key is to treat them all the same, from an unbiased view. We all assume. Assumptions are made everyday, but some are more ridiculous than others, like when you assumed that OP wouldn't appreciate freedom of speech if there were atheists in the video, which there clearly are, and moreso throughout Oxford University.
Open debate at Oxford Is just that for now but certain deceivers and ruthless men are desperately trying to silence debate and inquiry into things they seek to keep away from public scrutiny.Keep your eyes open and watch what laws are being drafted from certain pressure groups,you will soon find out who truly rules over society, a bunch of base criminals ,the same ones who funded and ran the Bolshevik revolution and they are eager to stamp out open debate especially when the facts presented oppose their goals
@@Sednas And I'm meaning to say that you assumed he was a Christian for admiring freedom of expression. Now I'm going to assume that you wouldn't be saying "I bet you wouldn't be saying the same if the subject of the video was a Christian" if the original poster was saying he admired the freedom of speech under a video where an atheist was arguing his point.
1:36 that sound scared the shit outta meA
Thank you for the warning! 😅
Was 5 seconds away from it when I read you comment 🤣
@@-ans-to-non-muslim i suggest you watch this ruclips.net/video/sXa-UQjSNn0/видео.html
LMFAO SAME!!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂I thought that was when he revealed evidence of God....shared the shit outta me
OxfordUnion: Has an intellectial yet respectful and coherent debate
RUclips comments: Theists and Atheists debunked each other 100 times with paragraphs as long as the Bible itself, ultimately resorting to insulting each other for existing
*And that is why they are up there in Oxford, and we are down here, in a pointless comment section*
hahhaha so true
🙌 couldn't be more truer
Brutal but factual as well lol.
Amen on that one
Good comment. Very true. I have to examine myself against it!
His five arguments timestamped:
0:28 Science requires the existence of God (A lawgiver being a condition for law in nature)
3:57 Logic thinking requires the existence of God (A brain having evolved only out of survival not being a reliable source of reason)
6:45 Morality requires the existence of God (A person only being more than just matter and having a fundamental value if God exists)
8:47 Meaning in life requires the existence of God (The relationship with him being the goal of life)
12:30 Hope for ultimate justice requires the existence of God (A judgement after death only being possible through Jesus Christ)
Al arguments you list, are just made up falsehoods with no evidence preached by Lennox.
1. Science exists on its own by the research and discoveries of scientists --- no god necessary.
2. Logical thinking clearly shows that no evidence exists for any god.
3. Morality is a social construct, all different from society to society --- no god involved.
4. The meaning of life is determined by each individual for him/herself --- no god is needed.
5. Justice is a relative term: No evidence exists for life after death or for any Jesus.
Do you have time stamps for when he provides proof?
Lennox does not understand science!
Lennox does not understand logic!
Lennox does not understand biology!
The imaginary god of the bible is immoral!
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Be blessed
All of those arguments were debunked and refuted a long time ago.
Logical fallacies aren’t evidence for any gods.
"“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you." John 15:18
spaghetti monster chronicles pg 368 paragraph 4 says: they'll dismiss you as a troll despite you trying to show them the truth. Worry not, but continue to spread my word!
@@louisuchihatm2556 that seems so ludicrous
Who doesn't call upon God when faced with death? Even Antoine Lavey, founder of Church of Satan, did so on his death bed. Atheists imagine they are so self-sufficient until it is too late. God does exist. Even satan knows that even though he presents himself as God to those who follow him.
We know God exists because we talk to Him and He responds. We pray and He answers. We witness His marvelous deeds every day.
@@sosospiritual417 ikr
The greatest that ever lived; He had no servants, yet they called Him Master. He had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. He had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet Kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He had no crime, yet they crucified Him. He had no need, yet He forgave them as they mocked. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is Jesus Christ and He is the Saviour of the world.
Thank you for putting this up. 🙏 We know what we believe is true.
Amen
It doesn't exist, yet people call it god.
Thats why he is GOD, The Lord Jesus Christ.
If a person that later came to be known as Jesus did actually exist then he was a Jewish carpenter and possibly a lovely guy but to give him the ability to create the entire universe and make him all powerful over everything and everyone is as stupid as it sounds.
Sharing God in a room full of atheists. Great respect for you Mr John Lennox.
Nick Jones People will believe what they want to believe and will openly talk about it. I myself am not an atheist, but I am willing to respect the opinions of others such as yourself. :p
@Nick Jones ignorant of you to say...
A 'Theist' 😀
@Nick Jones what ignorance..
I wander why the God made so many atheists?! Apparently then the theists could with such a bravery to talk in a room full of atheists.)))
He’s such a jolly man. I love listening to his debates and speeches. God truly works through this man. I’m grateful for John Lennox, he’s taught me a tremendous amount of knowledge
And so say all of us. There is hope after all. It’s nice to listen to modern day Apostoles,❤Georgios, Crete.
The nutty professor. If he ever has a wet fart in public he will realize there is no intelligent designer
There's no evidence for the existence of any gods, outside of mythology.
I'm just finding out about him. After speeding through some of Chuck Missler's talks and watching Jordan Peterson reason to his, I'm glad to find another wonderful Christian professor with such profound outspokenness. I will definitely be checking out more of Mr. Lennox.
@@sukwarsiemanym You mean the nutty professor?! Perhaps when he is in a care home you would like to be the one who wipes his arse, think about it the supernatural designer thought i will design people to shit and get someone else to clean the shit up, why doesn't god send down a couple of angels to clean up his shit? Reason they don't want to get shit on their hands. If you ever have a wet fart in public you will realize the notion of an intelligent is ridiculous, so have you ever had wet fart? if so did you enjoy it?
He is not only a spiritual man but also a brilliant man.
@Margie Smith I believe that description would more accurately describe Dr Richard Dawkins.
@Margie Smith Rather, he is good at arguing what he believes
@Margie Smith do you believe in the devil
@Margie Smith I don't know
@Margie Smith I don't know
1:37 rip headphones users
Lmao
☠️☠️
So true also when they drink water like they haven’t had any in years lol 😂😂
I was waiting for the time to come, listening without headphones, and I still jumped
I actually thought that my earphones had an issue
This man makes perfect sense
CityOf Angels ??? !!!
is this the best answer you can come up with?
***** believe me if i had the chance i would speak to you in person, and i wasn't the one who started insulting, so the blame is yours, not mine.
***** a chair.
***** you're not my real father!
So, what his evidence for a god & magic? Or is that just it? A drawn out proclamations is his evidence?
Richard Dawkins sitting in the second row doesn't appear to be happy. lol
@AC He got his chance later and pretty much got trounced by Lennox at a formal debate between them.
@@angusmacangus3181 Trounced? in what universe? I mean only if you believe in comic book characters created by the Flavian dynasty
@@tsunami770 ruclips.net/video/OVEuQg_Mglw/видео.html
@@angusmacangus3181 watched it,ouch!
@@angusmacangus3181 watched the whole thing, it was painful ( do you believe in your eyes or do you believe in what I'm telling you to believe? ) kind of debate. John Lennox might as well be telling you to believe in fairies or unicorns the debate would be the same.
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,”
Romans 1:22 KJV
Ikr
And they didn't even eat the cookies
equalism 42 Ohh, the irony of Romans 1:22 😄
@pete J
now ironic was THAT statement, as attributed to Saul of Tarsus.
Creating Day/night before creating the sun and the stars is quadrillion times foolish 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, we know. The book with the talking donkey and the man who lived inside of a fish says it is foolish to demand evidence for one's beliefs.
Got anything else?
"God does not compete. Agency does not compete with mechanism and law". That is a statement to really think about.
where did that statement come from? what is meant by "agency" in this context?
look at the first "commandment" and tell me again that god does not compete.
Indeed. And why could Satan get here?
@@tracyavent-costanza346 good point🤔
@Chait Singh @worldgonemad the big bang theory totally goes against scientific law. Cause and effect. You can't see air, but know it's there. Someone else can't hear your thoughts, but you know they're there.wifi signals are invisible, but if you turn off your router Internet disappears. Your finger prints are unlike any other person on Earth. You'd be totally arrogant to think you could understand the universe with a human mind. You know your soul exists because it differs from others. The evidence you shout is the same as every other athiest. The Bible is the most historically accurate book, or document of all time. More than any other book ever. You can even Google that. Also I bet there's been a time in your life when you've felt desperate that you've said please God. The book has remained accurate through all plauges, the Holocaust, and every other mass genocide. Look at all the near death experiences. A lot of them who are doctors, scientist, and many other science believing athiest, who died go to hell, and find Jesus. Some instances they're dead for hours, or days. They had nothing to gain from these things, actually they could only lose from them. Some have lost marriage that was over 20 years. Quit high paying pristigious careers. You're very foolish and close minded to think this is it. Miracles happen everyday science can't explain. It is your job to look with an open mind for your self. If you open the Bible and read you can literally feel the holy spirit. Also it makes total sense the government puts flouride in our water. The Bible talks about our pinial glad being our way to Jesus. Flouride in the water literally attacks our spirit molecule. This makes total sense to me that the devil is very near, and if he could would banish the Bible for ever. Many countries have banned the Bible. In China they're tearing down Christian churches as we speak. Stop listening to the science put out by your lobbyist governments. Did you know that 70% of what independent studies show doffer from government funded ones. You sir can trust in The FDA who puts cancerous things like red 40, and yellow 5 in everything. Did you know that the FDA gets over 70% of it's GDP from big pharma? So they allow these things to poison you, and then give you vaccines with all kinds of harmful materials in them. Right now 5G is killing all kinds of birds, and bees. Monsanto is currently working on creating a genetically modified bee that only will pollinate there gmo foods. Also 70% of independent studies show 5G frequencies manipulate your thyroid into allowing harmful toxins to pass the blood brain barrier. This is no work of man alone. This has been a plan since the beginning of time. Do me a favor and look up what agenda 21 is. Then also cross reference it with the most historically accurate book of all time. The Bible. 100 years ago most people were God fearing Christian's. Did you also know that in the 1980s over 60 different companies owned the rights to media, and today it's just 6 families that put out the news. Go do some research of the FCC, and how the leader of it is chairman Ajit Pai, an ex Verizon wireless telecommunication attorney. Obama said there would be no lobbyist in his administration, and he was the first person elected into the FCC. You watch as agenda 21, and the rest of the events of the rapture become true. What's funny is last year I said the same things you're saying right here. Then I watched a documentary on RUclips called frankenskies proved to me the devil is very real, and everything I ever thought to be true was a lie. I hope you find jesus, because he's very real, and if you allow him to come into your heart he will forgive you, just as he had mine. I know it, because I can feel it, and now I'm doing these things to help people like you. I have nothing to gain from this, and feel much ridicule, but it's worth it, because I know for a fact it exists.
On the basis of rational evidence? He is kidding, right? Faith is neither rational nor is there any evidence for a god. And when he says he believes in a god, which one is he talking about? There have been so many throughout human history and still today there are several. So which God does he think is the "right one"?
I can recommend the book Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis, which can be also watched nicely animated on RUclips. One of the things you will find there is, that most ancient "gods" were only man made idols as they do not have the characteristic and qualities of The God.
You may also try to distinguish first between theism and atheism to see where the arguments fit. In case you come to a conclusion that theism makes more sense, then you will set for the task of finding the God by exploring existing alternatives, discarding all imperfect and incompatible ones until you find the ultimate, ideal answer.
@@jiribenda7913 most ancient "gods" were only man made idols as they do not have the characteristic and qualities of The God.
"were only man made idols"? As apposed to the god(s) people nowadays believe in? And I am sorry, but who decides what are the real characteristics and qualities of THE God?
I am sure back then people were as convinced that their gods are real as people are sure their gods are real today. Don't you find it a bit condescending to say: "they believed in made up gods,their gods were not real but MY God - well he is real (although in nor anybody else has ever seen him and there is not proof whatsover). What makes you God more real than one of the ancient ones? Just because you believe in it?
A powerful sermon from a scientist
I wouldn’t say it’s a sermon, an argument would be better.
@@Nameless-pt6oj He isn't remotely anything like a scientist, in his buying into a proposition that is both unquantifiable and untestable.
@@tomward2688 From an outsider perspective, really telling that you quite clearly only dislike him because he is a theist. Einstein was no religious nut, nor was he an atheist, he makes that clear. Should we call him stupid for that? Lennox knows far more about the sciences than you do, random bullshitter in a comment section. You're nothing like a scientist. By your logic, a scientist who believes in aliens, or the many ultimately impossible ideas about universes - i.e. parallel universes - is stupid, nothing like a scientist just because of that. WHo gives a damn about anything else about them, because they believe in absolutely anything further than their noses they are fools, right?
@@tomward2688 he said he BELIEVES. The knowledge in question cannot be verified empirically. So whether believing or unbelieving, nobody knows
@@seetsamolapo5600 therefore, should people also believe in Zeus? Why don't Christians believe in Allah? Christianity has blotted out other religions inside their ground, like Greco-Roman Ploytheism, and tried the same with Protestantism
Even if you don't agree with him, you have to agree that he has a great voice and charming mannerisms.
ruclips.net/video/1jhNZClEL8Y/видео.html
Ergo, deus est.
Shut up God is real idiots
@@nomejest5919 i think that you're the one that idiot lol
@@martinmaxwell3508 At least I don't copy a comment, at least try to type something different. 😂😂😂
Nope. Jolly man, faithfull sure. Nothing scientific about it other than the location.
Jesus Christ you are my life.
depressing that you dedicate your life to that.
Matthew Kearney depressing you comment on other people’s comments about their beliefs
@@spiritual9574
Nothing wrong with critisizing inaccurate and immoral beliefs
@Jesus Is The Truth
Notice those that are religious automatically assume all those things for people that dont buy into their immoral religion...
Matthew Kearney notice that you comment on other people’s comments saying that their beliefs are stupid
“The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament proclaims the handiwork of His hands.” (Psalm 19:1)
That doesnt prove anything
@@thefirsttime7759 - “Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge?” “Brace yourself like a man; I will question you and you will answer me.” “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me if you understand.” “Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know?” “Who stretched a measuring line across it?” “On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?”
@@michaelj.spencer5276 why do you keep quoting the bible acting like its a valid argument
@@thefirsttime7759 - why do you keep asking stupid questions
@@michaelj.spencer5276 says the Christian
What a knowledgable yet humble man. A rarity in our times.
he's just another religious nut and so are you
@@ratbrat9978 and you live up to your name.
@@christbanner3219 and you're a fn religious nut now go away and get down on those well calloused knees and mumble you're mumbo-jumbo for my poor lost soul just do it quietly, I've heard enough jesus freak bullshit to last me the rest of my life amen
@Don don thank you mission accomplished
" A mystic is a man who surrendered his mind at the first encounter with the minds of others. "
-Ayn Rand-
*So let us examine what science can tell us about the origins of life*
We know from experiments in the fields of Astronomy, Chemistry, Geology and Meteorology that the early pre-biotic earth was filled with organic molecules, the building blocks of life. We also know that organic molecules are very common in space. We also know that early life has been extremely simple…meaning no complex protein machinery in place. Modern cells separate themselves from the environment with a lipid bilayer.
The problem with modern phospholipids is that they are too good at what they do. They form a nearly impenetrable barrier. Modern cells must use proteins to move molecules across their surface. But life did not have to start with modern chemicals!
The pre-biotic environment contain many simple fatty acids. Under the range of pH they spontaneously form stable vesicles and they are permeable to small organic molecules (no complex proteins are required to get stuff in). When a vesicle encounters free fatty acids in solution, it will incorporate them (eating and growth are driven purely by thermodynamics). When a vesicle grows, it adopts a tubular branched shape (because the surface are grows faster than volume), which is easily divided by natural forces (waves, currents, rocks, etc.). When this division takes place, none of the contents of the vesicle are lost.
*So what about the genetic material?*
Modern nucleotides are too stable and require complex machinery to replicate. But the pre-biotic environment contained hundreds of different types of nucleotides, not just DNA and RNA. All it took is 1 to self polymerize (recent experiments have shown that some of these are capable of self polymerization, such as Phosphoramidate DNA). Monomers will base pair with a single stranded template and self ligate. They can also polymerize in solution and spontaneously form new templates, or extend existing templates.
*No special sequences are required, it is just chemistry! But how does this become life?*
Fatty acids are permeable to nucleotide monomers but not polymers. Once spontaneous polymerization occurs within the vesicle, the polymer is trapped. Floating through the ocean the polymer containing vesicles will encounter convection currents, such as set up by hydrothermal vents. The high temperatures will separate the polymer strands and increase the membrane’s permeability to monomers. Once the temperature cools, spontaneous polymerization can occur (and the cycle repeats).
The polymer, due to surrounding ions, will increase the osmotic pressure within the vesicle, stretching its membrane. A vesicle with more polymer through simple thermodynamics will “steal” lipids from a vesicle with less polymer. They essentially, “eat” each other. The vesicle that contains a polymer that can replicate faster, will grow and divide faster, and will eventually dominate the population, and now EVOLUTION can begin.
Scientifically illiterate Lennox wouldn't have a clue what any of that means. Besides, he's so lost in his fantasy world he doesn't care.
People need more of this.
I think the world already suffers from plenty of bullshit as it is.
@@amazed66 现今人类群体需要理性引导，而不是这些胡说八道的蒙昧的反智主义。
@@amazed66 I strongly agree. Like evolution
@@calvin6879 Yeah I'm with you on that, I like evolution too.
That was sarcasm by the way, but please don't tell me you think the Bible offers more evidence over evolution?
If so, perhaps you can explain how despite religion claiming that the world is only anything from six to nine thousand years old, animal and human bones and fossils far older than that have been discovered on Earth and we won't even mention dinosaurs at this point either!
@@amazed66 Evidently you are ignorant of the absolute joke that is carbon and radiometric dating. Those have been disproved years ago but the anti God Athiest still cling to them for dear "life". You are also obviously ignorant of the many verses in The Bile that 100% have to be God inspired because the context of the verses were not discovered by man until thousands of years after they were written. Examples being Atoms, earth's free float in space, life being in the blood (aka blood lose will kill you), washing your hands in running water, the water and wind cycles, ocean currents, atomic bombs and tanks eluded to in Revelations...... but yes, please do continue to look like the oh so typical Athiest jackass
One of the finest Irish minds there has ever been in recent times. A joy to listen to.
@Michael How does he have the wrong take on reality, may I ask?
@@padruigmacrodain Is his (and your?) believe in god an offshoot of hundreds of other proclaimed gods? Or is his (and your?) god the only TRUE God, and all the rest are fakes?
Do you fear the finality of death. After all, you had no conception of existence before you were conceived, so why fear no existence after death? You had no concept of reality before you were born and there is none after you die. There may, of course, be some legacy you leave after your death. Children perhaps. Intellectual properties, perhaps an invention or a unique process you leave to the benifit of humanity? Who knows? But the fact is you are irredeemable dead. You have no consciousness after death any more than you had before you were conceived.
❤agree
@Michael God's a fairy tale? Good God, now that is what I call an inability to embrace reality.
@Michael who says those Gods didn't exist? I for one, believe they did do. They just were the kind of Gods who espoused selfishness and narcissism as opposed to the Christisn God whose entire life was a model of self-sacrifice which is why I would worship him and not some celestial playboy like Zeus and his cohorts.
"Whoever publically acknowledges me, I will do the same for him before my Father in the Kingdom of Heaven, whoever rejects me so shall I reject them"
Sounds very made up and cult like
@@badideass why cult like???? The offer is extended to all
@@friendyadvice2238 because it's not believable, no religion is.
As long as you're happy though.
@@badideass Given that I believe in Jesus I genuinely want everybody to be saved, and I dont want to feel I didn't try to help anybody. I Sincerely hope you find Christ while God The Father graciously offers him to us. Good luck
@@friendyadvice2238 well you seem friendly.
I highly doubt I'll ever believe in the Jesus story.
Being saved in this sense means nothing to me, again I would have to believe in the story for which I do not.
Hope you have a great day, stay safe!
I became a Christian at age 34. I was spiritual all my life, and my mother did her best to guide me, but my father was not around. It took me a long time to return to my father (in heaven and on earth) but once I did it felt amazing! This video feels so important. Being a Chrisitan became uncool and even bad somehow in America. What a shame.
There is no heaven!
Death is final!
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@@rolfme5499A foolish assumption and belief. All you atheists claim death is the end but have no proof of that unless you experience it your self. Yet you say God cannot exist and say we can't prove his physical existence and that we only rely on faith but what you band of hypocrites forget to realize is your form of faith is that death is our end and nothing happens after therefore you believe in something you can't prove unless you actually experience it and see that truth. I guess it comes down to , I guess we will see who is laughing on the other end.
@soldierx2
Faith is a weakness of the brain!
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ROTFL
Obviously you are unable to distinguish between reality and fairy tales!
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@@Wonderegg2095What proof do you have for the existence of God? the fact that it is written in a book?
The foolish man says in his heart, there is no God.
Prove it
@@kanazamkniety7705 you are the proof
@@Joy-ii4ln wait beacuse im confused are you trying to say that theres no God Or you are trying to insult me or i just didnt understand the comment (I am Christian)
@Andrew Capasso what the fuck is going on already? What i have to prove ?
Falsify:
Religion is a funny thing. I'm on here, as an atheist, in an attempt to better understand theism. How many theists attempt to educate themselves on a different position to that of 'God made everything?'
The trouble with religion is that it cannot falsify itself. There's nothing to work with.
If we found a black polar bear, the statement, "all polar bears are white" would be falsified. This is the very basic nature of science. Always looking to prove itself wrong. When you can no longer prove anything to be wrong in a particular field, you've got a good chance, not a definite certainty, that you're correct.
All religion cannot do this. It's impossible.
Omniscient and free will:
Please can someone help me with my faith? I'm struggling.
If God is omniscient, eternal and omnipresent, how could he have free will too?
As in, if he knows exactly what will happen at any point in time, then how can he have free will to make any choice?
I'm not God therefore I might have beef for my dinner, but I could change my mind. If all events are laid out already and God knows what they are before they happen, how can he have any choice in the matter?
God bless john lennox
what about the millions of helpless children who suffer and die every year from starvation, dehydration, natural disasters, terminal illness, etc? apparently those children are not worthy of God's blessings
according to his waistline, Professor Lennox seems to be eating very well... so I guess you could potentially say that your prayer was answered
Theres enough land in the world to grow foods there should be no starving kids but when we die we live 4 ever in pardise with our cteator. There are thousands of Christians going to these countries to give foog and medicine and spread jesus name its getting better but we are to help and support our charities we have free will and we choose to help through gods grace
@@HoichiTheEarless if you want them to be blessed then go and help them. When Jesus ascended to the Father he left his Holy Spirit on earth so we could continue the work that Christ started on earth. When Christian aid workers go to help those in need they are showing love and care in the way that Jesus would and therefore blessing them. Love one another, take care of one another until Jesus comes back and he is coming back soon, that day will be the beginning of the end to all suffering.
@@HoichiTheEarless the bible cleary states that this is never what god intended and that when when adam and eve ate of the fruit, evil was introduced, god warned them not to, so if your going tonblame someone blame the one that deceived adam and eve
Hoichi The Earless it’s not Gods fault that many innocent children are starving and are born with sickness
Why should you blame God for something it didn’t do
He sounds like a(n) old character in the elder scrolls series
Hail Talos!
Carter W. Have a good day
Hm? Need something?
@@miguelthealpaca8971 aaROw To ThE knEe
the_person_that_playz_gamez you sound like a(n) virgin
Please provide substantial proof apart from the bible which is just a book of words like Harry Potter is just a book of words.
I agree with you Prof.
God does exist.
@bmk777k God knows everything. Your knowledge and human spesies like you, perhaps do not in His touches. Keep pray to God, so that you can get a little blessing from Him. Keep try. Thanks.
Planting the word of Holy scripture into a fertile mind will yield the fruit of a kinder more compassionate person. This is because one who learns of God will love Him and God will reveal Himself to you.
@@noneone............. That's one of my major problems with christianity. If god knows everything, how can life be a test ? "Oh, baby Hitler, he will kill millions of jews. Wow. that will be fun." The second big thing is, that christianity is based on the resurrection of Jesus. But there is zero evidence, that this has ever happened or something like this ever happened or can happen at all. Maybe, there is a god or something like that. But that christianity thing is very unbelievable, if you read the bible literatelly. "Jesus rose from the dead" as a metaphore makes sense. He died for us and lives in our minds forever. But literally rose from the dead is nonsense. Btw. there were (are) a lot of soldiers, that die for us and had been tortured etc. for real . :)
@@Jingleschmiede there is a book " when evil asks to God" you must to read it. Everyone was given effort to love and hate by God. The Great Alexander was stronger than Hitler. He killed everyone not only jews in his journeys. Jesus Christ is still alive on the sky. Be adulth, you must to read much as you can. Taurah, Bible, and Al Qur'an are same. They came from God. They teach us to be wise to interact between God and His creations. Frankly, The close relationships between Christianity and Islam are they pray to one God and Jesus Christ said " i was created in same land as well as Muhammad ". Be friend !
@@noneone............. I'm pretty sure, Jesus never said anything about Muhammad. :) But I agree, that Religion should be about love. But there are close minded assholes everywhere.
Love that Northern Ireland accent
Me too. I have the same still, after 50 years in New Zealand!
how amusing that you are enthralled with the packaging and not the product inside it.
A pure Ulster accent
Stephen A hell no doesnt sound irish at all
Wade Sharp ulster is not Irish but british.
God bless Brother John Lennox as he preaches the eternal Gospel.
Anything objective, measurable, demonstrable, why not?
@@ericbell940 How does one measure, demonstrate? Science only, right?
So saith all Buddhists, Jains and Indigenous peoples, among so many others. You do know that the "Gospel" was written by people, translated countless times, evolved through many forms. So this "Word of God" bit is quite a stretch.
"I am primarily the creator of a new code of morality which has so far been believed impossible, namely a morality not based on faith, not on arbitrary whim, not on emotion, not on arbitrary edict, mystical or social, but on reason; a morality that can be proved by means of logic which can be demonstrated to be true and necessary."
-Ayn Rand-
*A very beautiful one from Dawkins, he has my respect for it:* _A serious case could be made for a deistic God._
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Godly man with courage....Live well sir.
@Stacy Caruso A weak, old fearful ass.
@@MrKit9 Lets see you speak about controversial topics in front of people who probably disagree with you.
@@samuelk2621 People like Lennox are all pretty much the same, reasonably intelligent, articulate, good debating skills and thrive on the attention they receive. They take full advantage of those skills to push their agenda and persuade you to their way of thinking. Just read this thread to see the kind of influence and persuasive power that people like Lennox command.
@virgil
well offhand it appears that Lennox has done all right for himself. Except that his prophet said something about having no possessions and having to offend our family in order to follow him.
@@trollobite1629
apparently Lennox makes a living this way. At Oxford apparently it is possible to do that.
This wasn't the strongest speech I've seen Lennox (or anybody) give for why God exists. But there is a great subtlety to what Lennox was doing that most commentators here seem to have missed.
They complain that he did not provide any scientific or mathematical evidence, completely missing that Lennox has end-run around that by arguing that 1) the existence of God is the only reason that the universe is rationally intelligible, and 2) God is a personal being and therefore we encounter Him most profoundly not through rational argument but through personal relationship. Lennox wasn't attempting to provide scientific evidence for God. He was challenging the epistemological assumptions of materialistic atheism.
He said it right at the end: these are my reasons for why God should be trusted. Not merely that God exists, but why God is trustworthy to be in relationship with.
+CoryTheRaven Thank you!
+CoryTheRaven How can the concept of a god in a persons mind be trustworthy in a relationship?
bltorioles Exactly. The existence of God is implicit to God's being trustworthy.
CoryTheRaven So then the thoughts in a persons head verify the trustworhty nature of the thoughts in a persons head....hmmm
CoryTheRaven Brother, you have to be able to see the error in that
So eloquently elaborated and beautifully presented with humble attitude. In return, I myself am humbled by the words that the Professor John Lennox spoke.
There's no evidence for the existence of any gods, outside of mythology.
There is evidence y friend !! The answer is love !! God bless you and your family
@@Netomp51 No. We evolved our emotions, just like all other animals.
@@richardharris8538 ok let me ask you a question, do you trust your parents ?
@@Netomp51 What business is it of yours? Anyway, FWIW, they're long dead. And another thing, that's a rather stupid question; it suggests the questioner's poor grasp of epistemology.
I absolutely do!!!
“They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.” Romans 1:25-26
Praise Him who is worthy to be praised 🙏🏾 Praise His holy name 🙏🏾
There is no creation!
The imaginary god of the bible is a psychopathic mass murderer with a massive inferiority complex who hates humans!
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Amen!
It's honestly incredible how much has been prophesied.
Amen & Amen/from across the pond in Texas...
Paul wrote a lot of rubbish, this is one of them. Even in his time the Greek and the Romans, the Egyptians, the Persians - i.e. the people Paul may have known - worshipped gods, not created things. The idea that because of idol worship people became gay is so stupid, that I do not cease to wonder how can Christians take it to be true. The absolute majority of pagans and atheists are straight, and a lot of people who "worship the creator" are gay.
He's from Northern Ireland peace to god
Yea, im proud he is. I am too, a travelling preacher in New Zealand
@alistair watt Agreed. Most religions need to be eradicated.
@alistair watt it has nothing to do with religion I'm from Northan Ireland
peace to Northern Ireland, more like.
@alistair watt
it's possible however that the irish and the brits might still find something ELSE to fight about. Some of them have been known to actually get along however.
The problem isn't God. The problem is......
The people furthest from God(Religions) claim to know him, while the people closest to God(Scientists) don't even believe he's there.
If God is real why create cancer? Answer me then
@@TheDeepState2001 People often overlook the problem of evil and end up blaming God. Why?
@@TheDeepState2001 Death came through sin. Rather than asking why did God create cancer, the better question is why did God give man the ability to have freewill and to choose Him or reject Him? In reality cancer is not bad if you do not believe in God because you die anyways. Now in you there is a will to live all human beings have it, no one wants to die. Christ died for our sins on the cross and through Him we can have eternal life.
@@TheDeepState2001 Pain is a mystery: asking us, christians why God created cancer is foolish because no one really knows why pain exists, but we do know it's in our nature because even the son of God, Jesus, who was the purest man alive experienced suffering in its most painful way, therefore we must assume suffering is part of human nature.
@@TheDeepState2001 god has done way worse things than cancer...just read the bible
HUMILITY IS KEY.
Fantastic. I love hearing him speak.
"Since man is not omniscient or infallible, you have to discover what you can claim as knowledge and how to prove the validity of your conclusions."
-Ayn Rand-
Well said professor.
Not really, I have heard all of these arguments before, and have seen many people refute all of these claims, and said people actually have evidence to support them
@@succusage3966 it was still well said he didnt say it proved the comment didn't say he proved God it just said well said stop straw manning things and I know u might run off in a tangent after this comment
@O 99 but I don't have free choice to use my tiny brain right scientific determinism so maybe one day my DNA would kick In and let me know definitely that God doesn't exist but in the process u aren't helping by replying to Christian messages right because in the end our DNA has the say so.
@O 99 yea u should look it up because it totally debunks materialism and determinism out the water because there is a emergent universe and I'm waiting on you to go back and search and tell me what physical laws aren't deterministic u forgot to tell me that your answer was very open ended like u just found that out
@O 99 most atheist dont agree with u even Richard Dawkins said he cant definitely say there is no God like most atheists they dont say I know there isnt a God its arrogant and foolish but use your tiny brain u seem uneducated on your own position go look up panspermia and look at how they either believe we are probably here by aliens like again Richard Dawkins said this and many others or or animal microorganisms were surfing comets and asteroids either way science fiction.
Richard Dawkins boiling with rage over this entire speech
Jack Mooney he’s probably bored bc he’s heard it all before.
@@limlim481 Only Satan is mad when men and women of God speak.
@@jamberry8026 well good thing god isn’t real
You think the utility company gives you sunlight everyday, huh? Make sure you pay your bill!
@@visiblehuman3705 Not real, because you "say so"? Who are you?
1:37 shook me.
Elder Scroller
DAMN YOU!
I had my headphones in and clicked that, scared me to death.
@@TheBelovedDisciple144 rip
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I didn't believe in The Big Bang until that point.
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The absence of any god is exactly the same as the claimed presence of any god.
No its not. There is evidence that we have a creator, we didn't just come here from a big bang. We are way too complex and so it's the earth for us to come from a huge nothingness. Something or somebody created us.
He is proving god by preaching the gospel. What kind of logic is this?
Anay Garodia
I’d be hesitant to say that he’s proving anything. But yes this is absolute nonsense what he’s doing.
mohd salman
The first part of this is nothing more than talking about religions, the second part is the debunked notion that the Quran contains scientific information. In every instance of people claiming scientific knowledge in the Quran, one of the following is true.
1. This fact was already known and proven so therefore the Quran didn’t convey a groundbreaking discovery.
2. The Quran simply doesn’t say it. What was done is someone took today’s knowledge and forced it into a vague verse from the Quran and claimed the Quran said this scientific fact. This is blatant intellectual dishonesty.
Watch again. He gave a lot of arguments, starting with cosmology, then fine-tuning, then morality and finally as an answer for suffering
SKRIMEO
Yes, and?
SKRIMEO
The gospel is the truth huh? Prove it.
always find that mathematical minds think similarly and thoroughly it's always a pleasure listening to them
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens. ..
@Nathan Nitai Das
What’s more believable?
That the Jesus story is a rehash of Astro fables or that some dude was actually born of a virgin and is the son of the Hebrew god.
Well, I spoke to Zeus and he assures me that Yahweh is fake and that the Greeks are the real “chosen people”.
@@Gamefan86 Yeah no. 25th of December was the date of a Roman holliday, and when Christianity became a staple, they simply used the same holliday, changing the celebration to the Birth of Christ. Highly doubt from an outsider's observing perspective that Jesus's followers in the 1st Century C.E. were really worshipping the Sun and turned him into a man only later on. Half of those lines require a lot of biased approval of your ideas to believe them. May as well say that about a lot of the other world religions too.
@@Gamefan86 "The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north."
-This is a really big push, and from an outsider persepctive knowing the reality of why Christmas is on December 25th - coming long after Jesus - this is a definite no, because this came long after Jesus.
"The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"".... convincing line?
"The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo."
^All this aren't too believable by anyone else, and seem to be put there just to add extra lines. Crown of thorns is the Halo..... huh?
"The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes."
The funny bit about this is that real crucifixion in the 1st Century wouldn't have been on a cross as we think of it; which debunks this whole idea. If you go back in time, and actually saw Jesus's execution or that of anyone else in that century, it wouldn't have been on a cross. This is veriable, you can find evidence for what I've said. Over half of this requires the person reading to have little knowledge of history or take the specific things mentioned at face value.
@@Gamefan86 You deceive yourself. Yes, 12 is symbolic all through the bible. 12 tribes, 12 stones 12 disciples, oh and there is 12 notes in music. The symbol 12 came from God , not man. The sun was created by God actually Jesus. 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning-the first day.
John 1:1-5 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. The word is another term for Jesus.
You can make those correlations but that its more because of Jesus being real and they are a refection of him, not the other way around. Truth is If you look at the sun you can destroy your eyes. If you look to Jesus your eyes (mind) are opened. Anything that gets too close to the sun is destroyed whereas with Jesus you will have eternal life.. Actually Christianity is branched out from the Jewish faith. Jesus was of Jewish faith, He referred himself as the vine and hid followers the branches Most religions even acknowledge his existence. Jesus had lived, not is symbolic. God of the Jews is the God of the Christians. The Messiah is prophesied in the Old Testament/ Torah, written way before Jesus day. He fulfilled them all. The Jews will dispute that. Why would they dispute about a man being the long awaited Messiah if did not exist? No one has disputed his existence. The Jews could. It would be to there benefit of their faith. Do your research like Lee Strobel did.
Thank God Almighty for John Lennox..I think the Lord God is using Him to explain the Science Discoveries through the works of God's creation..Amen🖒
you can believe you came from stupid animal and that youre related to banana if you want that wont make it a fact
@@johnserveantofjesuschrist3742 Evolution has been observed in the lab and field, both micro and macro, and is therefore a fact. The theory, which explains the fact, is supported by all the evidence, observations, predictions, and experiments, as well as the relevant facts. We did not come from stupid animals, but from animals that were almost as intelligent as us, and they came from animals that were almost as smart as them, and so on. Yes, we are very distantly related to the banana, but the common ancestor goes all the way back to single-celled organisms.
Thank god you fkin zealots live far from me.
@@johnserveantofjesuschrist3742 Another brilliant demonstration of christian intelligence. LMAO.
@@doctorwebman ..if you believe that your ancestors come from "Banana and Monkey" help yourself..I DON'T !...Read the Bible God's word is truth versus man's word about the creation..2Peter 3:3 to 13..well, Human being would lied every single day and willingly making up story..WHY?? To gain the whole world but at the end lose their souls to Satan Lucifer..tell me who is willingly ignorant? You and the so called wise man "Scientist" against the "Intelligent Designer Supreme Being" called GOD in the person of Jesus Christ.
A force you've never seen, a being that has no independent tangible evidence, a being that requires "belief" rather than understanding, I could go on. Just because you can't see it, smell it, taste it, touch it, hear it, sense it in anyway, doesn't mean it exists. Don't confuse mass hysteria with proof. Don't confuse a book written by humans, translated many many times, revised many times, to be proof of anything.
Nice comment showing how you didn’t even watch the video given to you, just goes to show how far one can go to shield themselves from the truth
@@user-re2xl3qo7mNo he is being straight forward all Lenox did was reuse the most basic arguments ever I don't know therefore my God who is wrong all the time and quoting famous people
@@TotalAnalyst2 You nor the person I commented to could refute any of his arguments, only stating them to be false or making statements that are irrelevant to the video at hand. You could at least try to refute something, anything at all, but no, in this refusal to argue any of his points you shield yourself from the truth like I already stated
Praying for you man. Your own intellectualism is clouding your vision. Even if you remain an atheist forever, your morality will always be determined by Judeo-Christian ethics. And you will still face your Creator when you pass. That shadow will always hang over you
I’ve been scrolling down the comments section, and I wanna say something real quick to anyone who may or may not have seen the way I’ve replied:
1: I am NOT an atheist. I am religious, and have been for a long time.
2: Despite having faith, I STILL RESPECT OTHERS’ OPINIONS. I can’t stand the judging replies to non-religious commenters. Sure, you might not believe the non-religious comments, but that doesn’t mean you should put them down.
3: PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS. This ties in with what I just said, and I seriously can’t stress this enough. I’m not defending or condemning any commenters, but PEOPLE WILL STILL BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE. JUST RESPECT OTHERS’ OPINIONS.
Just a little something I wanted to say. Thanks for reading! :p
edit: didn’t realize my comment would actually start a discussion! anyway, my point still stands, pls don’t be rude to atheists or theists because that’s just stupid :)
Beautifully well written good sir! :)
I agree on you with all points.
But it is mostly the atheist who put down theist by saying that we're dumb. Or getting arrogant thinkging of themselves that they are to intelligent to believe in a God.
And me, as a believer, i see that they have a standpoint which offends God. I know that their chance of getting into heaven shrinks if they continue to live their ignorant lifes... so i often try to open their eyes. But they never understand, they say "i don't believe in fairytailes" offending God even more, putting God down as a fairytaile, as a joke. But still i never lose my patience, because anger is a tool of ghe devil and not in God's favor.
I think we the believers must hold together, no matter if jew, christian or muslim. In the end those are all abrahamic religions who all praise the same God, they only refer to different books, which all came from God in different times to bring us down to the right path everytime faith faded away.
Atheism inevitably leads to nihilism, which is an unpleasant worldview, and this is why they resort to the attacks. Even though they don't believe, I suspect that deep down, having no eternal truth and no connecting to a greater mystical body is unsettling.They can't or won't believe using logic, so the gut reaction is to lash out. I was an atheist for 40 years. I get it.
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So funny looking at the atheists😂 holding in Their anger
I know they are trying 😆
Why would they burst out in anger?
I think theyre just disappointed because the entire speech is full of logical fallacies, strawman, black and white, hasty generalization, circular argument, red herring, god of the gaps, burden of proof among other things
@@divij3349 got any more logical fallacies you can say that are not relevant to this video.
@@mephistopheles9644 Whatever helps you sleep at night dude
Those people by their suits alone make me feel dumb .
You should not be intimidated by it. Never be afraid to think rationally
the notion that you can be made to feel stupid by articles of clothing is rather telling
This is hysterically funny. Not a single argument from the speaker. Just assertion after assertion. Random cherry-picked quotes. Please, if anyone can actually dissect a step-by step proof for the existence of a god from this, then please present the step-by-step proof. How he holds a position in science at Oxford is astonishing.
Well, he is a mathematician, which is not really science.
Amen John Lennox is a brilliant speaker. 🙏
Lanny Thank you and support you. First of all, Glory to the Lord God.
I hope that you will receive the strength of the Lord God every day and courageously preach the word of repentance.
The promised return of the Lord God is near. I am personally exhausted, but until then, I will preach the word of repentance with all my heart.
I hope to see you soon in heaven of glory. ruclips.net/video/U-2YfBydfV4/видео.html
@@amanwhodelivertothegospelo3954 thank you for that lovely message brother we will meet soon 🙏 good bless
Pity his content if flawed
@@LannyC 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I pay more attention to content.
That was highly unimpressive.
Amazing... Praise the Lord
Always!!! +++
No. I don’t think I will
Mang Thangsing I’m going to go rub one out before I do, but thanks.
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YOU HAVE MADE ME BELIEVE FULLY IN CHRISTIANITY THANK YOU VERY MUCH 🙏❤️ GOD BLESS
He didn't even use any EVIDENCE to support that God is real. He is parroting the same thing Theist parrot which is belief over any evidence.
You can use his same arguments to believe in Allah or Odin, Zeus, etc. Except the part about the Bible, but the Bible is a terrible piece of evidence with dubious historical claims among a lot of mythology and is just as believable as the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, Popol Vuh, Theogony, etc.
Hi just preaching... like every Sunday in every Christian Churches... not evidence at all.
PS...congrats, now U are ready to believe for anything! Because someone claims something! 😂
Indoctrination make People stop thinking!
The bible is an especially bad source of "evidence" because so much of it is plagiarism from the religions that preceded it.
This gentleman hasn't provided any evidence that God exists. He keeps talking about belief. Belief, like faith, is a hope, a feeling but has no provable, fact-based actual evidence to prove itself. He depends on the bible as a source but that has many problems, not the least of which is, again, belief. The answer most often given regarding God is that one can't produce something from nothing. Without going into my personal theories let me ask this -- What if the universe was created from something which we can't discern? The answer to that satisfies all the questions of belief but is provable. In fact, science is touching on the answer now (although not completely explained).
No this fellow has not proved why God does exist. But he obviously takes great pride in obtuse explanations that support his self-admitted beliefs.
AMEN AND AMEN
Strange how those who deny the existance of God will at the same time accept that 'intellegent life must exist elsewhere in the universe'. They also will agree that we only have very limited knowledge of what we experience in our three dimensional world and that physical matter may only be a tiny part of what else exists. As Socrates said "All I know is that I do NOT know"
@Scoobi Hu So which is the forth?
@scoobihu1090 You're being semantical because you cannot refute his claims. What do you gain from this correction but a short hit of dopamine in the midst of confusion and anger? Why do you willfully rebuke those who (if they truly believe what they are taught) would give up their lives for you to find their peace, their slice of Heaven?
@scoobihu1090 Who said anything about reading minds? Your argument lacks any substance against what he had to say. You're just contradicting them for the sake of it. Why?
@scoobihu1090 I'm lost. You pointed out a fourth dimension (not spatial like the other three observable ones) to try and correct this man, and you're claiming that you are 'pointing out logical fallacies'? My friend, your argument lacks coherence. I want to understand what you're trying to say, but your stance is unorthodox.
@scoobihu1090 Yes. I'm saying that you're being semantical and dragging things on that are purposeless. Who cares if he only refers to the three dimensions of space without mentioning time? His point is just as clear!
I’ve watched the counter argument and I’m 10 minutes in and he’s talking in circles making no real factual statements to back up his argument. He’s stating opinions and using big words. This what I mean. Whenever I watch a debate of a person stating how God is real they never really say HOW and can never provide evidence and/or research as to how their theory is factual which then makes it merely an opinion
This is my testimony of how God got my attention supernaturally ruclips.net/video/eMezoh2qgRw/видео.html, but some of the other great evidence for Christianity is the many prophecies from the Old Testament that have been fulfilled in the New Testament. Isaiah 52:13-Isaiah 53 is a great one and tells us why Jesus would die.
God is love, the self-sacrificing love of Christ of the Cross. What more do you want? We can't see Him, but we can experience Him.
Something was created from nothing… but then again what was god create from? And does the bible itself not presume that he created the universe from nothing?
Also science is not some religion or belief in itself science is an academic process developed with the intention of studying and determining facts.
If atheist are right about mindless unguided process,… well first off evolution determines the best course of survival, it is not that its mindless it is that is reactive, it reacts to its environment and evolves accordingly.
Also if it is mindless then yeah that would cast doubt on everything humans have said and done, … including belief in god.
If humans are created as rational moral persons… why do we have wars, which are entirely irrational.
And you can say wars are made by those that stray from god, .. but in that case that means religious people, the ones defending the existence of god and the ones questioning scientific methodology, are by far the most astray from god.
“If the universe has a make only he can tell us what its all about”….. so basically he is saying -believe in what I say, just because I say it- this coming from a supposed academic.
Ok hes claiming Jesus rose from the dead and stating that as a fact and whats more claiming that an empty tomb was the proof……, That is a laughable statement in the academic perspective.
There would be dozens of reasons not the least of which a tomb was robbed or that the event never really happened.
At no point during any of this did this so called academic, provide any solid proof to any of his claims. And hes supposed to be a mathematician? …. How about he provides mathematical proof of the existence of god?
More than 90 tombs were unearthed, all claiming to be the burial place of Jesus. All empty --- grave robbery was very common since the dead were often buried with jewels and useful items.
Professor John Lennox is top on the list of Christian Apologists I listen to. He communicates the present and ultimate preeminence of Christ in the most personal way.
@Chase Williams John Lennox was a student of C S Lewis according to his statements. There is quite a number of other Christian Apologists like him. However, I have noticed that being a convinced Christian is deeper than logical defence of the gospel. For almost all the Apologists and other Christians, there's a personal experience that unfetters the heart and brings the divinity and finished work of Christ His love into an overwhelming comprehension.
@Chase Williams Hello it is now that you are asking this genuine question that I realise I have listened to many of them without necessarily following them. So each time I come across one and listen to them again I will share with you if it is okay. I wasn't born a Muslim but I am very familiar with the religion. My dad was one before he became a Christian. This guy is one of the Apologists I respect. ruclips.net/video/O9rcFduex1Q/видео.html
Delusional moron
@@olufemiadeleye9462I agree. Its amazing watching these men of God speak. I am truly at a loss for words. I recently stumbled across Mr. Lennox by accident from an interview with Mr. Kirk Cameron and after watching a lot of talks from Mr. Chuck Missler, I was looking for my new RUclips search. If you have any other recommendations for individuals who speak in a similar way, I'd be interested in learning more. God bless!!
“Science is limited” but They do something, right?!
.... your God is powered, limitless thing and do what...nothing?!?!
Wishful thinking, Mr Professor. Nothing else. 🥺
What proof you have that God does nothing? Isn't your statement just wishful too?
Do you call NATURE nothing?
Your body needs water? Why? Guess what? God made H2o.
To explain how the body responds to pull away from a fire in a reflex action is another impressive example of design. The message is delivered to the coccyx and then two signals are sent, one to the brain to update it on what happened, and one to signal the hand to pull away from the hot surface. Beautiful! Do you really call that nothing?
Don't you know He (GOD) is the DESIGNER? Consider snowflakes, all have six sides and no two are alike.
Each individual has his or her own fingerprint and there is none other like it on the planet of approximately 7, maybe 8 billion. Aren't those things indicative of a designer?
Did the Internet design itself? No, it's absurd to think to even ask the question?
Do books write themselves, insert color, pictures, words, grammar, punctuation, print and publish themselves? No!
Did your house have an architect? or did it design itself? I'm sure you had an architect and a very good one at that.
Do you see how ridiculous these questions sound especially for scientists? Where did the atoms even come from for a big bang?
God designed nature. Consider birds. How many types there are, and subtypes, their chirps or how they sing, all according to its kind. And its the same throughout all of nature, down to the very ants. They all have a DESIGN.
I'll give you an opportunity to prove your wisdom:
Explain why the seas don't overflow and come inland except for the odd cases of disaster?
Where is snow stored?
Where did the atoms on the periodic table come from? How are they formed?
Why do the snowflakes all have six sides and not 5 or 4 or 8?
Explain how the brain works?
Explain the formation of the planets? The perfect 23-degree angle that earth is tilted. How is it held in space without a hand? Scientists say there is no gravity in space, but we are in space and we have gravity. Where did gravity come from? Those two atoms? Did those atoms also make beautiful beaches and whales?
IF MIRACULOUSLY YOU CANNOT ANSWER THESE then:
Remake as safely as you can, an explosion of some kind (within safety for everyone including yourself), and see the beauty created. NEVER in the world have I seen a bang either from a gun, or bomb or any explosion bring about something new, that was never seen before or newsworthy. Where is the DESIGN in that except DEATH?
Don't let the devil fool you too.
@@ricardolangley2155 God didn't create water, water came from hot gases or steam being condensed.
@@vek3681 Wow. So where did the hot gases come from? Who designed the process of condensation? And did you know that steam is still considered water? You still have not presented a proper reasoning for your SPECULATIVE argument that God doesn't exist... You didn't even attempt to answer one of the many questions I asked. I dare you to try...
@@ricardolangley2155 Yes, things such as houses etc. should have a designer, but does the designer need to be a sentient being? Does the designer need to design directly? For example, humans were not directly created, they evolved, which then leads to the myth of Adam and Eve being just a myth and metaphor. Some things do not need a sentient or non-sentient designer or need to be directly created, as for the existence of God, there is no scientific evidence or truth about God, and the revelations in the Bible aren't the proof of God as they are in written form that could be tampered or the revelations are merely metaphors, proof has to be presented visually.
JL is a class act and gentleman and spot on!
" Man is an end in himself. "
-Ayn Rand-
I would not doubt he is a gentleman, its just that, based on this, his credit as an academic is very much questionable.
@@artsveiman7776 You must be talking about a different JL. Even if so, it's intellectual snobbery to believe only academics carry the necessary prerequisite of understanding to debate. If that were the case why did you waste your time watching since by your own measure, you haven't the ability to understand it! BTW the (JL) John Lennox here is Professor is an internationally renowned professor of Mathematics at Oxford University and holds an MA Bioethics and PHD from Cambridge University as well as being a Senior Fellow at several institutes in Germany. Last he's an Author of dozens of publications
@@abbiebeast He presented no substantial proof to back up ANY of his arguments.
hes a mathematician therefore he is supposed to be an academic, and yet he fails to adhere to the basic requirements of academia.
I am uncertain if in any of his publications he provides more solid statements, but the fact that he claimed jesus rose from the dead because his tomb was empty is beyond moronic.
That he has written dozens of books is not valid proof of his claims as an academic or an intellectual, for crying out loud there are dumb as bricks politicians that are on the bestsellers list, the content of which is toilet paper in the academic sense, yet are held in high regard by many conservatives.
If this man is the academic he is presumed to be, no proof of it was presented in the comments he made in this presentation.
Can anyone come up with a really great argument that Lennox has made? I mean something original.
No! Lennox made no arguments supported by any evidence.
@@maylingng4107Yes, I know. I was just hoping someone would try. People seem to live his Psuedo-profound BS.
@@vladtheemailer3223
Actually, Lennox is a total disgrace. Here is a man who is educated in mathematics, a PhD from Oxford and Cardiff. In the face of this stellar education, he preaches the delusion and propaganda perpetrated by his dishonest religion, and refuses to accept all the evidence to the contrary provided by science. When someone finds a single evidence for any of Lennox's religious claims, I would be most interested hearing it.
Science only explains what is there..it does not explain what is not there..
@ThunderOtaku [Nightcore] can you scientifically prove that
Christians prove what's bot there but not what is there
Al Khan there is no need to explain something that is not there. I don’t need a scientist, or anyone else, to explain the pixies that don’t live at the bottom of my garden, or the unicorn that’s not in my garage.
Your God is the ever shrinking god of the gaps in human knowledge.
Science does not believe in what is not there. Thats the characteristic of ignorant people.
Thankful for men like John Lennox.
Thank you
He is a moron
How can this man be a scientist...
@joashsmusic ok" wow"... you want to answer my question with a question..? brilliant... and wow number two... are you comparing Isaac Newton to John Lennox...? Really...!? And you didn't even bother to try to answer my question.... you made me laugh and you've hurt my feelings...
Because he is
Hengel Hardcore: By the Grace of God and his faith in the Grace of God.
God bless you.
How can you be in this comment section? Because you chose to. Easy. Question done. If you're wondering how he is a scientist for the statements he made. Then you clearly didn't watch the video fully. He stated his beliefs and statements and explained why he thinks that way for each of them. It's not his fault you don't pay attention.
Gods are imaginary.
*The truth of your claims is captured in my 🤣vi🤣deos, Andrew. You need to grow up.*
@@atheism-themoststupidrelig8802 says the one who’s name tag shows blatant immaturity
@@atheism-themoststupidrelig8802 Karen, what evidence do we have of a god?
@@atheism-themoststupidrelig8802 Seriously dude, if you actually think atheists are stupid, please present what you would say is the most convincing argument that your god is real, and then let´s have a fruitful conversation about if that should convince an open mind or not.
@@atheism-themoststupidrelig8802 What's captured in your videos is the fact that your are mentally ill.
There are many videos in YT asking the question, "Does God Exist ?" but don`t allow comments. I will not listen to such videos. If I`m not allowed the courtesy of replying I don`t see why I should give those videos my time. Naturally this is not one of those videos.
You're not at the debate, so your comments to the speaker aren't actually going to the speaker, so they are for your venting. I will watch videos with disabled comments if I'm looking to hear someone's teaching or argument against or support of a position. To learn. Sometimes, disabling comments is wise to keep trollish comments off the page. :)
Mir Schultz
Yurr sooo much better, atheists and theists just won't ever agree which misses the whole point of arguments.
@@mirschultz9761 there are more trolly comments that come from theists than atheists and that's literally a fact.
@@mirschultz9761 Hello sir. Please don't poison the well. Please don't use loaded words like venting anymore. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation!
Peace!
@Sedna this is laughable, it’s atheist who generally flood comment sections and troll.
Well said Brother john
ruclips.net/video/1jhNZClEL8Y/видео.html
What a brilliant presentation. The professor could not have said it better. Well done and congratulations.
Just Truth whatever makes u sleep at night m8 just remember if there is a good there's 3000 to pick from so u better be right or its eternal fire in hell
@@kidyfiddler5527That's like trying to find the answer (truth) of 2+2=? and saying "there's so many different numbers out there how can I ever pick the right one?"
You find it out by seeking the answer and discerning what's true and false.
There being many different options has no effect on which one is correct.
Thank you Kidy, you are a monument, a walking billboard, the greatest advertisement for Christianity I have ever seen. Keep spewing that venomous filth in the name of atheism buddy! People will look at your grotesque words and want to run to Jesus as a result! Thanks again, God bless you.
@@kidyfiddler5527 I'm assuming you're over the age of 6 and know fully well the things you say. This means you are responsible for what you say. This means God has every right to hold you accountable for what you say, and you are saying some very corrupt and vile things.
Life is not a fairytale where actions have no consequences and you can say and do what you like and not be a responsible adult.
If you think that's how life works try telling that to a judge after commiting a crime. They won't care how you feel or if you think you're not responsible, they'll just throw you in jail for life if that's the verdict.
Right now you might think you're getting away with it, and you might even think it's kind of cute. But unless you repent to God and let him take over your life, you will be held accountable. I pray that you will do this. God is incredibly forgiving beyond what human's can understand, this is the only reason this forgiveness is possible.
Just Truth - well, he could have said it a lot better. For example, he could have produced some - thinks...what's that thing people sometimes use to argue or prove a point - ah, yes, actual evidence.
When you actually critique the bible.. it begins to make no sense. For example..The Bible also says that God is omniscient, which means he is all-knowing and aware of the past, present, and future. For example, 1 John 3:20 says, "Whenever our heart condemns us, for God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything". He knows everything about you..even before you enter the womb.
Richard Dawkins praying 1:41
Lol!!
LOL 😂
that was hillarious
Haha.
Good night one!
@@MacCadalso god is just fiction😎.
Hear, hear. 👏👏👏👏👏
I am in no way an academic, but I thoroughly enjoy the Oxford Union because it gives attention to both sides of an issue without discrimination.
All the best!
fuck off
@@ericmcdonough6771 Hearts will be hardened in the end of days it may be too late
@@ChalkEater419 Seems your god can't do anything about that. Some god! 😂
Eric McDonough Amen!
@@ericmcdonough6771 ruclips.net/video/K59hobHYd1U/видео.html
In very brief, Science is all about the explanation of God's knowledge. 👍
He is wonderful... Man who has known truth
Lennox believes that fairy tales are true!
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Needed this after browsing reddit
Listen to Zakir Naik you known more about God and Islam. listen to Islam Sobhi you will feel very better.see the scientific miracles in the Quran astonished the scholars of Europe and America. They made sure that the Quran is the word of God
LMFAO reddit moment
@@hichembn4584 Respectfully, I disagree. The Bible is The Word of God, not the Quran. “Actually, there is no “other gospel”, but I say this because there are some people who are upsetting you and trying to change the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel that is different from the one we preached to you, may he be condemned to hell! We have said it before, and now I say it again: if anyone preaches to you a gospel that is different from the one you accepted, may he be condemned to hell! Does this sound as if I am trying to win human approval? No indeed! What I want is God's approval! Am I trying to be popular with people? If I were still trying to do so, I would not be a servant of Christ.”
Galatians 1:7-10
Based
lol after being told the truth u like to wrap urself in a security blanket of lies.🤣
*A beautiful one from Dawkins:* _if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer._
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you are talking about Richard Dawkins, then this is so out of context. His argument is that humans tend to see intelligent design everywhere out of a survival-related necessity. As he puts it: if you hear the grass rustling, you're better of assuming the sound is caused by a snake rather than just the wind. We tend to attribute meaning to all kinds of things because of our predisposition to rather be safe than sorry. Another example is the fact that we tend to very easily detect shapes that look like faces, even if it is just a funny looking wood grain. Our brain automatically reacts to everything that remotely resembles a face because we are highly social creatures and our brain is trained to spot a conspecific. This shows that we are susceptible to logical fallacies and might assume a consciously crafted design rather than the result of millions of years of trial and error which produced the best (and highly complex) organism to date.
@@hardy16able *Another example is that we see information and codes and some 'id-iots' really think that mother nature did them or even worse, that actually they aren't info and codes.*
Mithras one of the origins of the Jesus story.
Mithras was a deity worshipped in Persia at least as far back as 200 BCE. Mithras was born of a virgin, on December 25th, which Christians later claimed as Jesus' birthday, even though the bible doesn't name it, which is why it took Christians over three centuries to claim it...very "conveniently" on exactly the same date as used by a previous 'pagan' religion, and right when midwinter festivals and feasts were both common and extremely popular); his birth was witnessed by both shepherds and the Magi, the latter bearing gifts for him.
Mithras had twelve apostles (one for each sign of the Zodiac), performed many mighty deeds including healing the sick, but eventually dies but is then reborn and ascends to heaven in his divine form once more. The Christians clearly stole their story - they didn’t even bother to change the details much.
But then many of the bible stories are stolen from other neighboring cultures - usually more advanced ones. They then rewrote them to accommodate their tribal war god Yahweh or some aspect of him. And frequently didn’t even bother to change much at all except the names!
1:35 that made me jump fukiinell
+mackiwawa That was god sneezing.
This speech is not merely a product of intellectualism. Only someone truly in the Holy Spirit can exercise this level of wisdom and kerygma. Paying close attention to this speech, the delivery, the style, and the speaker reminds one of Paul the Apostle. Great job there, Professor Lennox.
@Jack Probert That's not entirely true. Humans are not a bunch of clueless, brainless beings who just sit and listen. Aside from their emotions, they also go by facts and natural logic, even if they're not university professors trained in the rules of formal logical reasoning and critical thinking. And that's the tragic mistake made by those who tend to assume that just because someone is religious, he or she is simply unthinking and misled by indoctrination.
Bottomline: naive and gullible people can be found everywhere, within and outside of religion. So, it's not a peculiarly religious situation.
Thank you for your time.
In whoever Christ wins form, this one will perceive the formlessness of those out of the Spirit of Christ. 🍷📜🗿⏳
In whomever ...? --Maybe drink less wine.
@@tatie7604 This secular world cannot use commas properly, yet you attack this man for one of the most difficult and common mistakes. How self-righteous you must be to shun this man for his faith and spit on him with harmful words! You yourself edited your comment and you put a space between your words and ellipses. Do not shun a man for his beliefs, for they are as valid as yours.
*God is real!* Change my mind.
Keanu Reeves is god
Jesus isn’t
@@soggy3602 Jesus died for you on the cross for your sins and he is the son of God and Jesus rose three days later and beat death. If you confess this with your lips and heart you can be with him in heaven. He loves you come to him
@@S_u_n_Flower_ There are no sins. There wasn't a Adam and Eve. So no inherited sins to die for. A fully made up story.
@@shiranuiJH How do you know if it's made up?
@@S_u_n_Flower_ So you really believe earth is 7000 years old, was created in 6/7 days and God created Adam and Eve? Seriously?
He seems like a lovely guy, but if this is the best Christianity has it’s absolutely laughable. Literally just god of the gaps. Atheists currently don’t have evidence for said thing therefore the only logical explanation is…”a magical space wizard created everything and he’s all loving and all powerful but kids get cancer for some reason and oh yeah he created a comic book character version of himself who came to earth did a bunch of wizardry, died, came back to life, flew up into the sky and I now talk to him every night. Our two positions are equally logical atheist. The truth is in the Good Book. The book that both homophobic conservatives and progressive socialists can equally justify themselves with by celebrating half and ignoring half.”
I love my Christian friends as fellow humans, but as soon as they come into the theatre of debate and present their position as logical, they do sound incredibly silly.
If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence
One may also argue that if science existed, experiments would be unnecessary.
@@hzting985 one must not be tempted to comment nonsensical in a vain attempt to say something smart
@@walterdaems57 Glad you find it nonsensical. It is! "If x existed, x's existence does not need to be proven". That is not a valid argument.
@@hzting985 and now you’re becoming downright pathetic in your attempt to save face. But since I’m in a good mood I will give you the XL version of my quote.
If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence because he would be perceived or at the very least be experienced by believers and non believers alike and since that’s clearly not the case it’s safe to say that god’s are man made and not the other way around
If you gonna comment again, a real effort would be greatly appreciated
@@walterdaems57 thank you for taking the time to clarify your point :) I stand by my previous comment, which you merely dismissed as "pathetic" without addressing why.
Regarding your XL quote, the Bible says: "For since the creation of the world, God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Romans 1:20
It would be naive to think that one of us would change our mind through RUclips comments. So I'll end with this:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
All the best!
I just love Richard Dawkins' red face.
yea i know right he must be so embarrassed after this speech caused ur god to show himself to the world... oh wait that didn't happen. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
1:35 that scared the shit out of me XD
Look at what religion do to people. A grown educated man, stating proudly as an achievement "I believe in Santa, because if no Santa why presents?"... Isn't it a shame?
3:03 now that's scary
Why
This is a nice place we’re both sides respect each other, and are allowed to talk.
@Slip Nip lmao
God in fact does exist but he is not classified into a gender, in our cosmos, our universe. There could be other forms of life, a manifestation of the ultimate being of god. If god were to choose our circumstances we would be void of the sun collapsing, dark matter entitling our whole universe, and we would experience heaven as we know it. So I believe that god is an entity to all beings in the cosmos and is not judged by a single gender since he is the entity. Other aliens might have beliefs like this too, but it is a manifestation of god. God does not only help us, but helps the other intelligent life out in the cosmos, the cosmos is a fast thing and it passes on. Technology can improve and check our standards for any existence of life out there.
@@kanchuhd7863 God does not exist until he does same with the principle of innocence before proven guilty
@@wdcurry111 god doesnt exist regardless of YOUR opinion
@@wdcurry111 but that’s impossible that go’s wants that because it can’t be specifically quoted from a date from far time
Embarrassingly poor arguments.
Fallacy 1: You should believe because smart people like Newton did. Rebuttal: This is an appeal to authority, a classic logical fallacy. We should only believe based on evidence and logic.
Fallacy 2: The universe can't create itself. Rebuttal: Neither can an assumed supernatural creator. One way or another we have to posit something existing ex nihilo, and Occam's razor dictates we do not multiply entities unnecessarily. On a materialist view, there is no "nothing" out of which "something" sprang at a given moment, because this would assume a pre-existing temporal framework: if, however, time itself is circular, then a universe with temporal "poles" would nevertheless contain all of time, and would therefore be in that sense eternal.
Fallacy 3: Laws need a lawgiver. Rebuttal: this is transparent equivocation between two meanings of the word "law". Consult any dictionary.
Poor analogy 1: Henry Ford. Since no one claims he invented the motor car, it's a bit silly to suggest we need him as an explanation for how it came into being. Perhaps Daimler and Benz were intended?
Fallacy 4: Fine tuning. This is at bottom a silly and circular argument. "Our existence depends on certain variables having certain values, therefore those values must have been configured to favour our existence" is like saying "My saving petrol in 2020 depended on the COVID lockdown, therefore COVID must have been deliberately brought about in order to enable me to save petrol".
Fallacy 5: Without the supposition of God there's no reason to expect the universe to be intelligible to us. Rebuttal: on the contrary, the Darwinian struggle for survival ensures that creatures unable to model physical processes cognitively would perish, hence the survivors would be those who were able to do so. Evolution esp. of a tool-using species naturally favours reason, i.e. the ability to grasp and model and predict immediate physical reality. What is evident is that our reason is ill suited to model subatomic reality, which is why a lot of quantum theory appears paradoxical. You'd think if a God bothered to equip us to understand the world, he'd equip us to understand it at every level, not just the level of immediate practical interaction with objects and people, which nevertheless seems to be what we have.
Fallacy 6: Without God we would have no morality. Rebuttal: Morality of some sort is expected in a gregarious species, since its survival would depend on people internalising rules of social interaction. What does seem obvious is that the moral codes provided by most if not all religions are arbitrary and, in a contemporary societal arrangement, unworkable. You'd think an omniscient God would have foreseen that.
Fallacy 7: "If Jesus rose from the dead, death is not the end and atheism is false". This is utterly illogical. Atheism is not predicated on death being the end. Buddhists, e.g. are atheists (they do not believe in a God) yet believe in reincarnation.
Fallacy 8: Atheism fails to provide "ultimate hope" (of justice, or whatever). This is a childish appeal to wishful thinking. Reality has no obligation to satisfy our emotional needs. Most people learn this before age 7.
It's funny how the concept of nothing is never fully comprehended. For nothing to truly be nothing it not only must be devoid of not just matter but concept as well, and here in lay the problem. the moment nothing is associated with something, it ceases to be nothing by association so there for there is no such a thing as nothing. everything is something.
I like what was used by the Proff. In theC.S.Lewis book-- Lion,the witch, and the wardrobe," Logic! Why don't they teach logic in these schools. "
Well put sir.
ADAM YOUNG The ninth century theist Scotus Erigena alleged God existed as something. Said God was also claimed to be nothing, because the God was not an object. A superposition, I guess, at least, for good old Scot. In maths, there is the concept of a null, which cannot be placed on a number line.
Deduct a Trillion from a Trillion and you have 0 aka nothing. The universe indeed can come from nothing.
Charles van Dijk So you’re gonna put your money that the universe was created by chance? Are you joking?
"This World may be a poor example to serve as a prove for God, but the mind that can realize this is a good example of God's existence."
- Alexander S. Schreiber
No it can’t actually.
The brain operates through synapses and chemicals.
No gods are required.
Ignorance is no excuse for belief in magic.
@@2l84me8 So you believe that spirit arises from dead matter, you surely have experimental proof of this? No, of course you don't, you just believe that.
@@LUCKYDRUGMUSIC I don’t believe in spirits to begin with. What are you talking about?
"We are still too rational, too this-worldly, and too individualistic to submit to naked tyranny. We are still being protected by the fading remnants of our Enlightenment heritage."
-Leonard Peikoff-1986
@@2l84me8Actually a higher intelligence is required to program the DNA in cells to produce a practical structure (aka the brain) to utilize those chemicals and synapses. Unless you’re saying that it is more reasonable to believe that something came from nothing rather than something came from a creator.