That's a real nice block plane. Did you opt for PMV11, A2, or 01? These days, I prefer 01 over A2 and PMV11 because it's easy to keep sharp all the time and holds an edge pretty well. Most people seem to like PMV11 though.
@@approvedworkman4668 I had to check mate I've had it along time, I remember having a choice of 2 blades, Pmv11 and once I sharpen it, it keeps it's edge for a long time almost like it gets sharper, brilliant tool
I have a few Veritas tool I first bought when I started to invest in tools. After using antiques and Lie Nielsen tools I kinda found Veritas tools to be a bit over engeneered in some areas and under engineered in others. Their customer service ticked me off one day when they refused to replace a small router plane blade after the edge broke way back into the blade. After I sent emails and photos they tried to blame me for the tool breaking in use and refused to replace it. So my next major tool purchase was with Lie Nielsen Tools and I've never regretted it the past eight years I've bought tools off of them. Their service is great and have never had an issues with their customer service or their tools. If you want a block plane for shooting get the LN adjustable block plane. They have flat square sides.
Since this video, I have bought only Lie Nielsen planes. I even got lucky enough to find a #4 bronze plane in stock and bought it, and it has been my go-to plane for most planing tasks. Now my Veritas block plane is dead flat at 90 degrees so I use it a lot for jointing small boards. It has been very reliable. However, I've been needing a #6 plane but the Veritas is $300 cheaper than Lie Nielsen so I'll have to go with that one. In the end, I just want to make real nice furniture so I won't play any brand favoritism. Nevertheless, your experience sounds similar to mine so that's why I rarely buy Veritas tools. Your comment about over/under-engineered seems quite true, and my most recent experience with that has been the honing guide. It's a good guide and has served me well but there are times I yearn for the simplicity of the Lie Nielsen honing guide. Anyway, thanks for your comment and thanks for tuning into my channel. Come back soon as I have some Lie Nielsen reviews and other power tools I need to upload.
Couldn't you true up the No. 5 on a flat surface and sandpaper? I just bought a LN 5-1/2 and havent checked because I assumed it was square to the side
The sides not bein square is of little concern, move the lateral lever and then the iron will be square. I have the little bronze plane, had thoughts of the Veritas one with the "squirrel tail" cap...... but il probably steer clear now.
Just bought this Veritas pocket plane and I love the ergonomics of it. I love brass but not budget wise though. Got any tips on my issues of not really being able to make shavings instead of dust? If I try to push the blade further out it blocks the shavings from going through the mouth. Very frustrating. Any tips on that issue?
If you contact veritas about it, they'll just tell you it's not meant to do anything more than mild chamfering, etc. However, if you examine the Lie Nielsen pocket plane, it's a little smaller but goes from planing off a fine dust to taking light shavings. In any case, you can either sharpen the blade at a different angle (not too much difference) or use a file to open the mouth a little. However, if I were to do anything like that, I would be precise and not do some hack job. For example, if you sharpen you blade to where one corner is lower than the other then you'll have to lock the blade in at an angle to get straight shavings. Likewise, if the mouth of the plane is crooked then the only way to make sure it's level is by setting the blade flush on a very flat surface, then locking it in. Perhaps little things like that don't matter to most people but personally, I need everything to be flat, square, and accurate.
@@approvedworkman4668 thanks for the quick answer. Knowing now that it’s not defective, I’ll start by giving it a 30o angle on the blade and check if it’s better. If still not satisfied, then I’ll file the mouth opening. I’m like you, I’ll want it to be square and straight at the end. Cheers
I've got a video I need to upload where I compare all Lie Nielsen and Veritas planes up to #5 so check back soon and it'll explain how I cope with ceetain Veritas issues. Though, essentially, just babying it a little has preserved it since.
I have the stainless steel anniversary plane and have the same problem. It took about a year for the screw hole to malform on mine. My fix was to take a very small lock washer and place it in the hole before inserting the screw. Seems to work well for now, not sure how long that the fix will last. Poorly engineered for sure.
I am sorry to hear about the problem you had with the Veritas plane and their customer’s service. I have considered to get one of those planes but this will make my choice very easy. L-N for me. The issue with the sides not being square I can relate to. When buying premium one expects that to be taken care of. That issue used to bug me a lot too….just the fact that you know that it isn’t square will eat at you. But personally I have managed to let that thing go…of course we know that it is of just minor importance as the lateral lever take care of the problem. To me the pleasure and fun of using the quality planes is the thing that gives me the most pleasure now - it took a while but I realized that I am better off not focusing on it. I will fiddle with the lateral lever before shooting anyway. 😋
Please don't think I'm discouraging anyone from buying Veritas. They do make very good planes, probably second best to Lie-Nielsen or Clifton. I own many Veritas woodworking tools and with the exception of the pocket plane, they've all been outstanding. If I can afford Lie-Nielsen, I'll choose them, but when I can't afford them, I go with Veritas and they do a good job.
@@approvedworkman4668 I understand you and I share the same experience with the Veritas tools - very good quality for an affordable price. Just that I haven’t got any of the planes from them. For that small block plane I will go with L-N one.
@@Heseblesens You can't go wrong with LN. Have you checked out the Clifton block plane? It's pricey like LN but really comfortable wood handle and their steel is very good - A2 but really holds and edge well and gets razor sharp.
@@approvedworkman4668 No, I cannot say that I have any experience with the Clifford brand. I have never come across it in the stores where I get my tools here in Norway. They might not have any distributor here yet? Thank you for telling me about the brand. I will look for their tools for sure.
@@Heseblesens Sorry but my phone has the most aggressive spelling-checker ever. Every time I type "Clifton" it changes it to Clifford. Clifton handplanes is what I meant. They're made in England. I had a Clifton #3 for a while and really regret selling it. It was very comfortable for a little bench plane, kept it's edge really well, and sharpened really nicely. I'm going to acquire another one at some point. Anyway, check them out.
Too bad about the cap. They are generally really helpful in the stores. I guess I was lucky, since I bought a stainless one not even knowing the regular one had this issue. My understanding is that Veritas acts sort of like its own company and no Lee Valley gets special treatments. Perhaps that's the problem in getting your stuff replaced with a limited edition item. I would say don't be discouraged by one product. Everyone deserves a strike or two for the simple reason that it's a big company. Because... I've hired knob heads that lost me customers when their actions don't stand for how we do business. Damage is still done. Just remember that Lee Valley is generally a quality outfit and it's hard to get everything right when you have that many products and inventory.
I got real lucky several months ago and bought the very last stainless steel one they had. However, it has sat in the box unused since because I changed the cap screw and am real careful with iI. Anyway, thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
I have same problem with my veritas mini block plane since I bought it I've use it only 3 times for small things work and after that I noticed when I need to tight the screw the top cap kick back and I can't used anymore I took it back for the shop I bought it from and I asked them to replace for me because it faulty but he didn't replace it for me but he put a new screw for it 😅 and when i back home I tried this mini plane on soft wood from the first use the carp kick back and I can't use it 100% so the problem wasn't the screw the problem with cap design, I'm luthier and I always use small sizes tools..... . I didn't contact veritas yet about it ,so now I put some small wood pieces in the spaces near the screw to keep cap in position when I use it ,honestly I wasnt happy because its quality tools and expensive tools as well, so we pay money for expensive hand tools and quality tools and at the end some issues or faulty and most the problem with plane no flat 100%...... so what is the point paying alot of money for beautiful looking planes.... but we need to work harder to make those plane flat should be not if I buy very expensive plane must be perfect and very flat and accurate from the manufacture because we paid top money on those quality tools, those issue with quality plane and flat issue must fix from the manufacture because veritas and lie nielsen are make always a good tools i like both veritas and lie nielsen....
I'm sorry to hear about that. I own many other Veritas tools and they are all great except this one. It's really too bad because it would be a great plane if they fixed the cap/screw problem. However, I got very lucky and found the very last limited edition stainless steel pocket plane they had and bought it. I don't think that one will have the same problem but I haven't tried to use it yet since it's a collector's piece. I highly recommend the Lie Nielsen planes, but there is another brand which I think is as good as Lie Nielsen and it's called Clifton. Their planes cost as much but they're incredible. Unfortunately, they don't make pocket planes so Veritas is about the only one you'll find in that size for a pocket plane. One great aspect of the Veritas pocket plane is that it's right at 90 degrees and makes a terrific little jointing plane for small parts. I use it with a mini shooting board I made from plywood so that I can make small drawer parts for little cabinets and things like that. Well, I recommend calling Lee Valley and insisting on them replacing the cap for you. Just be very careful in the future not to tighten the screw much or it will wear down very quickly. I'm glad you posted this because they argued with me a lot about it when I called them, but now I know I'm not the only one with the same issue.
@@approvedworkman4668 I thought I was the only one as well ,yes exactly right lie nielsen are great quality as well as veritas but it happens sometimes badluck and thanks for sharing 👍 😊
Well, I'm a furniture maker so it's all about the end product. I haven't seen what you make with your tools since you don't have any videos or links, but I make furniture with mine. Some of them look like toys but are very useful, especially because I like to make small scale models before I start building the projects.
@@approvedworkman4668 lovely, love your plane , actually it's imagination that kids are users for this. But I know that pla es like these are for fine tuning wood work size speaks for itself. Thanx nice presentation.
@@brissance Thanks for the comment. I've acquired some rather unlikely tools that have become very useful. People like violin makers mostly use planes like that one but I've found a lot of use for them. Some people are very good builders and make use of various tools so I try to check out videos and links people post to learn how they put them to use. The funny thing is I learned to make furnitire with traditional joinery just from watching RUclips. Ha ha!
Thanks very much for the review, and based on the information I ordered a LN plane today. Thanks, again for taking the time to make the comparison.
I use a Dx60 block plane it's never let me down beautiful tool
That's a real nice block plane. Did you opt for PMV11, A2, or 01? These days, I prefer 01 over A2 and PMV11 because it's easy to keep sharp all the time and holds an edge pretty well. Most people seem to like PMV11 though.
@@approvedworkman4668 I had to check mate I've had it along time, I remember having a choice of 2 blades,
Pmv11 and once I sharpen it, it keeps it's edge for a long time almost like it gets sharper, brilliant tool
I love my 101 and I just ordered a 102.
Is the cap cast iron, or is it cast aluminum. Brass should not wear out iron.
I have a few Veritas tool I first bought when I started to invest in tools. After using antiques and Lie Nielsen tools I kinda found Veritas tools to be a bit over engeneered in some areas and under engineered in others. Their customer service ticked me off one day when they refused to replace a small router plane blade after the edge broke way back into the blade. After I sent emails and photos they tried to blame me for the tool breaking in use and refused to replace it.
So my next major tool purchase was with Lie Nielsen Tools and I've never regretted it the past eight years I've bought tools off of them. Their service is great and have never had an issues with their customer service or their tools.
If you want a block plane for shooting get the LN adjustable block plane. They have flat square sides.
Since this video, I have bought only Lie Nielsen planes. I even got lucky enough to find a #4 bronze plane in stock and bought it, and it has been my go-to plane for most planing tasks. Now my Veritas block plane is dead flat at 90 degrees so I use it a lot for jointing small boards. It has been very reliable. However, I've been needing a #6 plane but the Veritas is $300 cheaper than Lie Nielsen so I'll have to go with that one. In the end, I just want to make real nice furniture so I won't play any brand favoritism. Nevertheless, your experience sounds similar to mine so that's why I rarely buy Veritas tools. Your comment about over/under-engineered seems quite true, and my most recent experience with that has been the honing guide. It's a good guide and has served me well but there are times I yearn for the simplicity of the Lie Nielsen honing guide. Anyway, thanks for your comment and thanks for tuning into my channel. Come back soon as I have some Lie Nielsen reviews and other power tools I need to upload.
Any follow-up on this video? Curious what LN said and if they replaced the planes?
Couldn't you true up the No. 5 on a flat surface and sandpaper? I just bought a LN 5-1/2 and havent checked because I assumed it was square to the side
The sides not bein square is of little concern, move the lateral lever and then the iron will be square. I have the little bronze plane, had thoughts of the Veritas one with the "squirrel tail" cap...... but il probably steer clear now.
Just bought this Veritas pocket plane and I love the ergonomics of it. I love brass but not budget wise though.
Got any tips on my issues of not really being able to make shavings instead of dust? If I try to push the blade further out it blocks the shavings from going through the mouth. Very frustrating.
Any tips on that issue?
If you contact veritas about it, they'll just tell you it's not meant to do anything more than mild chamfering, etc. However, if you examine the Lie Nielsen pocket plane, it's a little smaller but goes from planing off a fine dust to taking light shavings. In any case, you can either sharpen the blade at a different angle (not too much difference) or use a file to open the mouth a little. However, if I were to do anything like that, I would be precise and not do some hack job. For example, if you sharpen you blade to where one corner is lower than the other then you'll have to lock the blade in at an angle to get straight shavings. Likewise, if the mouth of the plane is crooked then the only way to make sure it's level is by setting the blade flush on a very flat surface, then locking it in. Perhaps little things like that don't matter to most people but personally, I need everything to be flat, square, and accurate.
@@approvedworkman4668 thanks for the quick answer. Knowing now that it’s not defective, I’ll start by giving it a 30o angle on the blade and check if it’s better. If still not satisfied, then I’ll file the mouth opening. I’m like you, I’ll want it to be square and straight at the end.
Cheers
Thank you. Lie Neilson for me - no longer a veritas fan boy. Would a washer on the veritas screw stop it cutting into the cast iron?
I've got a video I need to upload where I compare all Lie Nielsen and Veritas planes up to #5 so check back soon and it'll explain how I cope with ceetain Veritas issues. Though, essentially, just babying it a little has preserved it since.
I have the stainless steel anniversary plane and have the same problem. It took about a year for the screw hole to malform on mine. My fix was to take a very small lock washer and place it in the hole before inserting the screw. Seems to work well for now, not sure how long that the fix will last. Poorly engineered for sure.
That's a good fix. It's too bad because the iron has a good sole and great blade.
The first thing I would do is change out the flathead screw to Philip's screw
An outstanding recommendation that I shall apply to my Veritas pocket plane.
Thank you, Robert.
I am sorry to hear about the problem you had with the Veritas plane and their customer’s service. I have considered to get one of those planes but this will make my choice very easy. L-N for me.
The issue with the sides not being square I can relate to. When buying premium one expects that to be taken care of. That issue used to bug me a lot too….just the fact that you know that it isn’t square will eat at you. But personally I have managed to let that thing go…of course we know that it is of just minor importance as the lateral lever take care of the problem. To me the pleasure and fun of using the quality planes is the thing that gives me the most pleasure now - it took a while but I realized that I am better off not focusing on it. I will fiddle with the lateral lever before shooting anyway. 😋
Please don't think I'm discouraging anyone from buying Veritas. They do make very good planes, probably second best to Lie-Nielsen or Clifton. I own many Veritas woodworking tools and with the exception of the pocket plane, they've all been outstanding. If I can afford Lie-Nielsen, I'll choose them, but when I can't afford them, I go with Veritas and they do a good job.
@@approvedworkman4668 I understand you and I share the same experience with the Veritas tools - very good quality for an affordable price. Just that I haven’t got any of the planes from them. For that small block plane I will go with L-N one.
@@Heseblesens You can't go wrong with LN. Have you checked out the Clifton block plane? It's pricey like LN but really comfortable wood handle and their steel is very good - A2 but really holds and edge well and gets razor sharp.
@@approvedworkman4668 No, I cannot say that I have any experience with the Clifford brand. I have never come across it in the stores where I get my tools here in Norway. They might not have any distributor here yet? Thank you for telling me about the brand. I will look for their tools for sure.
@@Heseblesens Sorry but my phone has the most aggressive spelling-checker ever. Every time I type "Clifton" it changes it to Clifford. Clifton handplanes is what I meant. They're made in England. I had a Clifton #3 for a while and really regret selling it. It was very comfortable for a little bench plane, kept it's edge really well, and sharpened really nicely. I'm going to acquire another one at some point. Anyway, check them out.
Too bad about the cap. They are generally really helpful in the stores. I guess I was lucky, since I bought a stainless one not even knowing the regular one had this issue. My understanding is that Veritas acts sort of like its own company and no Lee Valley gets special treatments. Perhaps that's the problem in getting your stuff replaced with a limited edition item. I would say don't be discouraged by one product. Everyone deserves a strike or two for the simple reason that it's a big company. Because... I've hired knob heads that lost me customers when their actions don't stand for how we do business. Damage is still done. Just remember that Lee Valley is generally a quality outfit and it's hard to get everything right when you have that many products and inventory.
I got real lucky several months ago and bought the very last stainless steel one they had. However, it has sat in the box unused since because I changed the cap screw and am real careful with iI. Anyway, thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
lie nielson will fix the issue with your jack. at least in my experience they have never shied away from fixing a product.
Yes, they have been very good about product support.
just put a small washer and some painters tape underneath the washer
Yeah, there are various ways do do it, and it's an easy fix, but I brought it up to discuss the engineering design aspect for the review.
Price kya ha eska
$100 U.S.
I have same problem with my veritas mini block plane since I bought it I've use it only 3 times for small things work and after that I noticed when I need to tight the screw the top cap kick back and I can't used anymore I took it back for the shop I bought it from and I asked them to replace for me because it faulty but he didn't replace it for me but he put a new screw for it 😅 and when i back home I tried this mini plane on soft wood from the first use the carp kick back and I can't use it 100% so the problem wasn't the screw the problem with cap design, I'm luthier and I always use small sizes tools..... .
I didn't contact veritas yet about it ,so now I put some small wood pieces in the spaces near the screw to keep cap in position when I use it ,honestly I wasnt happy because its quality tools and expensive tools as well, so we pay money for expensive hand tools and quality tools and at the end some issues or faulty and most the problem with plane no flat 100%...... so what is the point paying alot of money for beautiful looking planes.... but we need to work harder to make those plane flat should be not if I buy very expensive plane must be perfect and very flat and accurate from the manufacture because we paid top money on those quality tools, those issue with quality plane and flat issue must fix from the manufacture because veritas and lie nielsen are make always a good tools i like both veritas and lie nielsen....
I'm sorry to hear about that. I own many other Veritas tools and they are all great except this one. It's really too bad because it would be a great plane if they fixed the cap/screw problem. However, I got very lucky and found the very last limited edition stainless steel pocket plane they had and bought it. I don't think that one will have the same problem but I haven't tried to use it yet since it's a collector's piece. I highly recommend the Lie Nielsen planes, but there is another brand which I think is as good as Lie Nielsen and it's called Clifton. Their planes cost as much but they're incredible. Unfortunately, they don't make pocket planes so Veritas is about the only one you'll find in that size for a pocket plane. One great aspect of the Veritas pocket plane is that it's right at 90 degrees and makes a terrific little jointing plane for small parts. I use it with a mini shooting board I made from plywood so that I can make small drawer parts for little cabinets and things like that. Well, I recommend calling Lee Valley and insisting on them replacing the cap for you. Just be very careful in the future not to tighten the screw much or it will wear down very quickly. I'm glad you posted this because they argued with me a lot about it when I called them, but now I know I'm not the only one with the same issue.
@@approvedworkman4668 I thought I was the only one as well ,yes exactly right lie nielsen are great quality as well as veritas but it happens sometimes badluck and thanks for sharing 👍 😊
Toddler plane.nurdery school approved.
Well, I'm a furniture maker so it's all about the end product. I haven't seen what you make with your tools since you don't have any videos or links, but I make furniture with mine. Some of them look like toys but are very useful, especially because I like to make small scale models before I start building the projects.
@@approvedworkman4668 lovely, love your plane , actually it's imagination that kids are users for this. But I know that pla es like these are for fine tuning wood work size speaks for itself. Thanx nice presentation.
@@brissance Thanks for the comment. I've acquired some rather unlikely tools that have become very useful. People like violin makers mostly use planes like that one but I've found a lot of use for them. Some people are very good builders and make use of various tools so I try to check out videos and links people post to learn how they put them to use. The funny thing is I learned to make furnitire with traditional joinery just from watching RUclips. Ha ha!
How about editing the video so we don’t have to watch 18 minutes of largely nothing
Here's a better idea: Make your own video so you can show us all how to do it properly.