Best blade comparison I’ve seen, surprised at how differently they came out. I knew that higher teeth are for cross cuts, but I hadn’t seen the actual results. Great vid!
Thanks John, I didn't even realise that I needed to know about all the different blades and what their functions were. Or how the different tooth configurations operate. Now I can confidently buy/fit the correct blade to my table saw when I eventually manage to build my bigger shed and have space for the table.
Hey John, Thanks A Lot (?) 😝 So I revisited this after watching your random pattern cutting board. Quick visits to Amazon & Toolstation and I've now doubled the value of my (Aldi!) tablesaw by buying the same 3 blades you reviewed. So now all I have to do is finally build that cross-cut sled, fettle the cheapo table to cut properly, etc etc. Her Xmas present is beginning to look expensive! You have a lot to answer for my man - you and your 'inspiration'. Keep it up fella, love your work.
Great video, i have got Freud blade and Diablo ( the same manufacture). The quality difference between the original blades, and the less expensive are night and day!!! But there are few things to consider the cost, and the thickness of the stock because 1*4 won't act like 2*4..... even the moisture content is playing big role on the rip cuts....for my experience with the Freud and diablo great value for money ( like Luban hand planes) because there are higher quality blades out there but much expensive!. Love your explanation on the teeth pattern od the different saws!!!
I know the Freud are higher end supposedly, but in my experience, the real difference is just that they can be sharpened more times than the Diablo - they both seem to cut just as well when new.
Great video, thanks, learnt from start to finish, off to buy some new blades, great info, especially about the teeth angle never knew about any of that. great channel, thanks again
Another excellent video with plenty of information. My Triton table saw actually came with a combination blade on it, but it does struggle with rip cuts and can burn a bit. For cross cutting, I upgraded to an Erbauer blade, looks to be a similar sort of price to the Freud.
Great video! Very informative! Also great that you are Irish! Often see these vids from American based channels talking about products that aren't available here. Funny too that I have seen you before, from your whiskey channel! Watched your redbreast vid and a few others!
I started out my business with the same saw you use but junked the Bosch blade immediately as it was poor. Freuds are better but only their high end industrial range are worth buying for business use as they can be resharpened and have a lot more carbide per tooth. They’re also laser cut. The best vfm for a decent blade that will outlast and out perform the freuds you show are CMT industrial blades starting at around £50. Qiueter, more carbide and better finish and precision. Even a hobbyist would benefit. For most, a 40t general purpose and 60T crosscut will do most jobs along with a 24t for pure ripping work.
I have actually found that I get pretty good crosscuts with an 80T TCG blade. It also lasts forever between sharpenings (mine is an Amana) and works well for joinery since it gives a flat bottom. (I’m usually too lazy to put a dado blade on since I’d have to change the brake cartridge on the sawstop - so it’s easier to take multiple passes with a single blade.)
Would an ATB freud blade be ok to use for cutting slots, or tenon joints? Trying to find a 250mm (for DeWalt table saw) FTB blade in the UK is nigh on impossible.
Can you suggest best quality blade for crosscut wood pcs of 4 × 4 inch for dws 780 mitersaw. At this time i am using 60T blade which come with dws780.but now a days its jerking after 95% wood cutting. Last 5 % wood cutting it scared me.once blade moving stopped yet machine start. I need to know is this problem arise due to blade quality & which brand i have to prefer with teeth no I m from india
why the 40 tooth over the 50 tooth for the combination blade? The 50 has 1 FTG (Flat Top Grind) tooth every 5th tooth combined with a larger gullet - I find it nicer to use for either operation than the 40....mine are both Freud
John, I recently bought a Forrest Woodworker II, thin kerf, 30T. The rip quality is excellent. I use a stiffener but I really don’t know if it makes a difference. Best Regards, David Janis
top video, was just about to pull the trigger on some cheaper blades but ur comparison has sold me, whats the point of putting all the hard work in when for an extra couple of £ you can have better results for the same effort. Thanks for sharing 🙏
Interesting and informative as ever. My question: I suspect no improvement on the mitre saw using new Bosch versus new Freud and you pretty much confirm. But on the table saw, if you compared with a new Bosch blade, would the Freud be worth the extra? As you were comparing old and worn, I think a new Bosch blade may have been pretty much the equal?
Hi John, Thanks for your video. In fact, you are comparing 3 grades of Bosch blades as FREUD is 100% owned by Bosch... It's just the best grade : they even produce their own carbide tips. I'm almost sure that the 'least' Bosch of the 3 is the original blade of your saw ( the silver blade ) as I think it is produced in China an not in house. This blade seems to be from the "Optiline" Bosch grade witch is the lowest. Above that, you have the "Expert for wood" blue blade. For sure it's a good blade, much better than the Optiline one. But look at it : it's made in Italy and knowing that Bosch owns Freud, I doubt that these blue blades are made elsewhere than the Udine Freud factory. The best blade is of course the Freud branded blade. I always wondered what were the differences between Bosch Expert for wood ( blue ones ) blade and Freud branded blades : is it equivalent to the Diablo blades Freud sells in US ? is it a more affordable grade with thiner carbide tips ? I don't understand why Bosch mounts it's cheapest range of blades on their professional ( blue line ) contractor saw. To me, it should be dedicated to Bosch green line saws !
@@JohnMcGrathManInShed I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your content! .......even when I disagree with it. I live in Southern California (born and raised), surfed all my life, and if you ever met me, you might comment on my California surfer accent. I can't speak for other Americans but I think your Irish accent definitely adds value to your content!
This guy can't pronounce "th." "De tewrty tewt saw moves trew de material more efficiently dan de forty tewt blade, tat's how tat works." English dude - is it your second language?
Best blade comparison I’ve seen, surprised at how differently they came out. I knew that higher teeth are for cross cuts, but I hadn’t seen the actual results. Great vid!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. The 'chatter' explanation opened my eyes. I thought it had to do with my fence. Thanks!
Here is where I bought the blades www.sautershop.com/circular-saw-blades/
Good video - thanks. It might be useful to mention that flat-top teeth are good for dado cuts too - less sanding afterwards.
Thanks John, I didn't even realise that I needed to know about all the different blades and what their functions were. Or how the different tooth configurations operate.
Now I can confidently buy/fit the correct blade to my table saw when I eventually manage to build my bigger shed and have space for the table.
Happy to help
well done. this is the best video I saw about the blades .. now I understand what are the differences. thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Hey John, Thanks A Lot (?) 😝 So I revisited this after watching your random pattern cutting board. Quick visits to Amazon & Toolstation and I've now doubled the value of my (Aldi!) tablesaw by buying the same 3 blades you reviewed. So now all I have to do is finally build that cross-cut sled, fettle the cheapo table to cut properly, etc etc. Her Xmas present is beginning to look expensive! You have a lot to answer for my man - you and your 'inspiration'.
Keep it up fella, love your work.
Great video, i have got Freud blade and Diablo ( the same manufacture). The quality difference between the original blades, and the less expensive are night and day!!! But there are few things to consider the cost, and the thickness of the stock because 1*4 won't act like 2*4..... even the moisture content is playing big role on the rip cuts....for my experience with the Freud and diablo great value for money ( like Luban hand planes) because there are higher quality blades out there but much expensive!. Love your explanation on the teeth pattern od the different saws!!!
I know the Freud are higher end supposedly, but in my experience, the real difference is just that they can be sharpened more times than the Diablo - they both seem to cut just as well when new.
I learned so much from this video. I never gave the grind of the saw teeth much thought before now!
Glad it was helpful!
Freud is a subsidiary of Bosch. You may find that the blades that came with your Bosch mitre and table saw are in fact manufactured by Freud
its quite possible
Great video John, very helpful. Really like your explainer videos.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, thanks, learnt from start to finish, off to buy some new blades, great info, especially about the teeth angle never knew about any of that. great channel, thanks again
Glad you enjoyed it
Super informative and useful!! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Really useful. Many thanks
Glad to help
Great review thanks for sharing
Great that John many thanks for sharing
Very welcome
Another excellent video with plenty of information. My Triton table saw actually came with a combination blade on it, but it does struggle with rip cuts and can burn a bit. For cross cutting, I upgraded to an Erbauer blade, looks to be a similar sort of price to the Freud.
Nice video John! Learned a lot. I continue to enjoy your channel.
Thanks 👍
Great review again... Thank you.
Absolutely mega video mate thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent video lad explained alot👍👍👍
Great video! Very informative!
Also great that you are Irish! Often see these vids from American based channels talking about products that aren't available here.
Funny too that I have seen you before, from your whiskey channel! Watched your redbreast vid and a few others!
Brilliant video - have the same saw and need new blades - will definitely take the advice. Thank you
Thanks 👍
I started out my business with the same saw you use but junked the Bosch blade immediately as it was poor. Freuds are better but only their high end industrial range are worth buying for business use as they can be resharpened and have a lot more carbide per tooth. They’re also laser cut. The best vfm for a decent blade that will outlast and out perform the freuds you show are CMT industrial blades starting at around £50. Qiueter, more carbide and better finish and precision. Even a hobbyist would benefit. For most, a 40t general purpose and 60T crosscut will do most jobs along with a 24t for pure ripping work.
I have actually found that I get pretty good crosscuts with an 80T TCG blade. It also lasts forever between sharpenings (mine is an Amana) and works well for joinery since it gives a flat bottom. (I’m usually too lazy to put a dado blade on since I’d have to change the brake cartridge on the sawstop - so it’s easier to take multiple passes with a single blade.)
hi which blade do you recommend to do long bevel cuts on a wood and wood panels with a tack saw? Thanks
Would an ATB freud blade be ok to use for cutting slots, or tenon joints?
Trying to find a 250mm (for DeWalt table saw) FTB blade in the UK is nigh on impossible.
Good stuff John!!!
How many tooth would you recommend for 3/4 plywood. Thanks.
Can you suggest best quality blade for crosscut wood pcs of 4 × 4 inch for dws 780 mitersaw.
At this time i am using 60T blade which come with dws780.but now a days its jerking after 95% wood cutting. Last 5 % wood cutting it scared me.once blade moving stopped yet machine start.
I need to know is this problem arise due to blade quality & which brand i have to prefer with teeth no
I m from india
Have a nice day, work is always smooth. 1
Thank you! Cheers!
why the 40 tooth over the 50 tooth for the combination blade? The 50 has 1 FTG (Flat Top Grind) tooth every 5th tooth combined with a larger gullet - I find it nicer to use for either operation than the 40....mine are both Freud
There is not much in it really, the 40 would be slightly better at ripping and the 50 would be slightly better for crosscutting
Great video John. Can you tell me where you get your saw blades sharpened in Ireland?
farty toot seems like a great compromise
Where do you get your blades sharpened, or do you do it yourself ? I'm in Ireland.
John, I recently bought a Forrest Woodworker II, thin kerf, 30T. The rip quality is excellent. I use a stiffener but I really don’t know if it makes a difference.
Best Regards,
David Janis
top video, was just about to pull the trigger on some cheaper blades but ur comparison has sold me, whats the point of putting all the hard work in when for an extra couple of £ you can have better results for the same effort. Thanks for sharing 🙏
great vid as always john, what made you take the 60t blade of the 80t blade out of interest?
What do you use for rabbits on your table or mitre saw F T G. ?
FTG would be the best, I just use my ATB blade an clean the rebate out with a chisel
Very helpful 😍
What do you suggest for plywood?
What do you suggest for MDF?
Try a 60T from CMT or Shark blades.
Hi John can your Bosch gets 10xc table saw take a dado blade if so what make and model have asked Bosch but may as well asked our cat 🐈☹️
Interesting and informative as ever.
My question: I suspect no improvement on the mitre saw using new Bosch versus new Freud and you pretty much confirm. But on the table saw, if you compared with a new Bosch blade, would the Freud be worth the extra? As you were comparing old and worn, I think a new Bosch blade may have been pretty much the equal?
Hi John, Thanks for your video. In fact, you are comparing 3 grades of Bosch blades as FREUD is 100% owned by Bosch... It's just the best grade : they even produce their own carbide tips. I'm almost sure that the 'least' Bosch of the 3 is the original blade of your saw ( the silver blade ) as I think it is produced in China an not in house. This blade seems to be from the "Optiline" Bosch grade witch is the lowest. Above that, you have the "Expert for wood" blue blade. For sure it's a good blade, much better than the Optiline one. But look at it : it's made in Italy and knowing that Bosch owns Freud, I doubt that these blue blades are made elsewhere than the Udine Freud factory. The best blade is of course the Freud branded blade. I always wondered what were the differences between Bosch Expert for wood ( blue ones ) blade and Freud branded blades : is it equivalent to the Diablo blades Freud sells in US ? is it a more affordable grade with thiner carbide tips ?
I don't understand why Bosch mounts it's cheapest range of blades on their professional ( blue line ) contractor saw. To me, it should be dedicated to Bosch green line saws !
Thanks for the info I hadn't realised Freud were made by Bosch.
These are the only blades I ever use I can’t fault them
No smoking when you cut with those blades
I have a sawstop saw can I use these blades
The Freud blades work perfectly with the sawstop system, We have tested it in our workshop when we got the first Festool TKS80
@@sautershopinternational912 Good to know!
My take away: if ya wan ta cleaner cut, ya nee ta use a fedder bard...
The main thing is you took something away from it
@@JohnMcGrathManInShed I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your content! .......even when I disagree with it.
I live in Southern California (born and raised), surfed all my life, and if you ever met me, you might comment on my California surfer accent.
I can't speak for other Americans but I think your Irish accent definitely adds value to your content!
@@kodoan411 Accent! John hasn't got an accent.
@@koconnor HA!
This guy can't pronounce "th." "De tewrty tewt saw moves trew de material more efficiently dan de forty tewt blade, tat's how tat works." English dude - is it your second language?