The S-Type Looks the Part, but Lost what Makes a Jaguar a Jaguar in the Effort to Make it Reliable
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- SOLD I'm very conflicted about the Jaguar S-Type, which was, essentially, the first "baby Jag." For many years, Jaguar had wanted to build a smaller sibling to the full-sized XJ model, and after years of delays (and an early cancellation by Ford), the project came flying back and produced the S-type, which went on sale in the US in 2000.
That it was a hit with consumers is not arguable - it doubled Jaguar's US sales numbers, and re-familiarized people with the brand. To do this, it relied on traditional Jaguar styling to the point of being almost as retro-modern as the Camaro, Beetle, or challenger. The four round lamps up front, the small wire mesh grill, the sweeping body lines in to a tapered rear all hearkened to the first Mk. 2 S-Types of the early sixties, and did so pretty well. Additionally, the interior treatment convincingly covered the Ford underpinnings with more traditional Jaguar garb - piped leather, expanses of rich wood veneer, deep pile carpet, nicely trimmed gauges, and other items that made it feel like a real Jaguar - at first impression.
But that impression doesn't hold, at least for me. After a while, you begin to notice and miss the distinctively Jaguar details like quality switch gear, odd and meaningless controls, overbuilding of trim, and that sort of thing. The Ford bits just under the surface become apparent like a coin in a shallow fountain. Even some mild electrical glitching doesn't remove the image - the "mystique" is gone, and only somebody's interpretation of it remains.
In many ways, that's not a terrible thing - the Ford parts of this car do make it more reliable, a better all-around driver, and less expensive to own and maintain than a traditional Jag. This is where the conflict comes in for me - mystique is nice, but so is a car starting up every morning.
All in all, this a Jag for people who want good, safe, reliable transportation to provide driving duty, but are only mildly more interested in cars than someone buying a Toyota Camry - they want to appear a certain way when arriving, but don't want to deal with a finicky, hard-to-repair automobile. They want a Jaguar with out the negatives - unfortunately, that couldn't be done without killing too much of what makes a Jaguar a Jaguar.
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@@briannawilliams7370 Lol - within the first 5 minutes he said that the car was based on the LS/Thunderbird. Everyone misspeaks when talking off-the-cuff.
Dude is the Anthony Bourdain of the car world..someone should give him his own car show.
Speaking their mind when someone got up at the wrong side of the bed or perhaps given hard time by wife. Annoying attitude towards great reliable car that blew my socks of the way it drives and how reliable and dependable it is vs my shitty bmw.
George Carlin has been reincarnated and he has returned as Bill from Auto Europa Naples.
My thoughts also. I love this old fuck, probably because I'm 39 and I'm starting to head that way.
Sounds like Jack Nicholson to me
I came for the cars but stayed for the narrative! Gotta love that dry, cynical sense of humour delivered Roger Smith style...Keep up the fine work
@@briannawilliams7370 Why did you have to tell this 10 times in 10 separate but identical comments? Did Bill disappoint you at some point? Unfulfilled desire for children maybe? Did he sell you a bad Jag? Please tell us the whle story.
Anyway, I love this guy. But yeah, the S Type isn't a real Jag...not as bad as the X Type which is really a Mondeo i drag (no bad car though) but nevertheless...
The crabby old bastard is why we love you 😂😂
exactly right!
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Indeed!
I don't think Bill is old!
He nails it with '6 months of Florida muggy misery ahead', I get that that's the impression of every older person who just had to move to Florida! But that car looks amazing.
For the love of god ,Bill cuts through all the bullshit we are dealing with ,just love it
Bill, honest to GOD, this is the BEST video of 'em all ! The commentary is something to look forward to each and every time, especially during this horrible in-house enprisonment!
Lol, it's only an in-house 'imprisonment' for those that are too stupid to stay home, like yourself. You must be a Trumptard.
@@briannawilliams7370 Damnnn B, take a chill pill and don't hate on Bill! Eh, so he misspoke a bit. Absolutely NO ONE on RUclips fires off 20-30 min videos IN ONE TAKE! No stopping, no script, no irritating cuts after every 3rd word. Bravo Bill!
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Hi Jim, I agree, except I'm, as you term it, a trumptard. So it is possible to agree on something even if our politics don't.
Honest about complaining!? There is enough of that crap here in Europe. America deserves better
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I about spit my martini out at that one! Beautiful!
Exactly! That one was golden! :)
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Bill has been deemed an essential service ,strickly due to this incredible RUclips channel,keeping all of us nonessentials sane
Bill should host Top Gear!! I would watch. Thumbs up if you agree!
He would make the current hosts look like a kindergarden opperation
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Self quarantine in NJ my beautiful wife, my senile mother and 3 lovely children and they all know to be quiet when I’m watching you . THANKS BILL it’s a true joy to listen to your comedy act . FUNNY DUDE
I check daily to see if a new Bill video has posted! Daily dose of sarcastic wit combined with tons of car knowledge! Keep ‘em coming Bill, you are essential!
Bill, please never change. I love your Florida weather updates. You help a lot of us get through this health fiasco with a healthy bit of humor.
it snowed in CT yesterday. posed to be getting a few more inches tonite. 🙄
I have absolutely no doubt that you’d be a great drinking buddy. I love your humor. Keep it up. 👍
Thanks from Canuckistan You may never know how much relief you bring during the plague. Always love your reference to canadians
I live in the bramladesh part of canuckistan
I quite don’t understand the Canadian reference. Could you explain?
I have a 2005 Jaguar with a new paint job. It look brand new, excellent interior and I love it. Only 92,000 miles.
Well first of all no hate. I will just tell you what I think but it's fine for people to have their opinion. I like the way you speak your mind. I have owned many Jaguars I was a car dealer for many years there. I have owned and driven Jaguar xj6 and XJ8 and xk12 as well as a 4.0 jaguar S-Type. I must disagree that this is not a Jaguar. It drives and has the feeling of all the Jaguars that I've owned. There are some differences for instance the aerodynamics of this car are different from the xj6 is an XJ8. At higher speeds it tends to be buffeted around by wind. I'm talking extremely higher speeds like 200 km an hour. But the feeling of the ride and interior and handling are Jaguar. It definitely is not a Ford Mondeo. Yes you can find some Ford parts on there in areas where it wouldn't make any difference to the feeling of the car like the coil over plug the cop. But the overall presentation feel and ride quality of the car is definitely Jaguar.
I can just imagine you feeling particularly generous one pleasant afternoon and taking the detailer out for drink then trying to disguise your disgust at him ordering his favorite milkshake.
Actually, I still love mine here in Germany. Oddly enough it's a twin turbo 2.7 liter diesel (never made available in the US) identical in and out to the one you reviewed, except for mine has the black leather. I often drive down to Switzerland , and on the Autobahn it's still a joy to drive at 135mph in peace and quiet. With 94,000 miles on it, I've had no real problems to speak of. My old '92 XJ-6 Vanden Plas had quite a few more back when I lived in Manhattan. Fun review though! :)
This car is a tank. Have long story with this jag, all I can say that owning both jag s type 2 7d and bmw e92 335d, bmw feels like it was made in China, ever so broken while this jag despite given hard time due to service failed to change rubber o ring and overheating, it still drives and nothing broke on it. It defeated all the stereotype I read about jaguars and the same about German engineering bmw that I am convinced is made to break.
we need a tour of the dealership. plus we need to finally meet Marty and your detailer.
Marty's in many reviews. And one moron detailer made a recent appearance in Bill's review of a retard coal roller.
Bill it’s great to hear you have the Polish sense of humor! That would explain the disdain for the muggy/humid weather, you need to head north to for the summer. Your videos are one of the best parts of my day now that we are being held hostage at home and I now avoid all the news reports. Your videos add some sanity to the day for many of us !!! Keep being you!!!
For the love of God, Bill please tell me you have done a best man speach in your time on this earth?
Because you could insult the entire audience and still get a round of applause,pat's on the back and free drinks all nights.
A used car dealer who actually gives an honest and not always favorable opinion about the car he’s selling? It’s like the friggin’ Twilight Zone.
Extra salty in this one....perfection.
Bill, the commentary is so damn funny on this video that I've watched it all the way through 3 times now! DAMN funny stuff!
I don’t like cars i just watch for u Bill! What a legend
Your knowledge of cars and vocabulary help me get through these corona days. Thanks man!!
You and Mr Regular from RCR are the best at these car videos. You crack me up man. Keep these videos coming!
Bill should take a road trip up to PA. Team up with Mr Regular for a couple of car reviews.
235 hp Harry Chapin not Cat Stevens
thank you!
Hey Bill, I usually never post reviews, so this should tell you something, that I was prepared to do so.
First, you are one of the most masterful salesmen I’ve ever encountered. Your deep, sophisticated and impressive knowledge of every car make of every year is simply beyond imagination. Very impressive.
Second, I would purchase a car from you over anyone else in an instant. Third, your commentary and banter is simply unmatched. Can’t get enough of it. No other car reviewer on RUclips has your sense of humor. In this video, your Irish accent was simply incredible and left me thirsty to hear you say more things in Irish. Your commentary about the World War I mask was also very entertaining. Your daily weather and bird reports are in high demand.
I am very glad to have ran into your first video a few months ago. I truly was missing out. I had no idea that a really cool and down to earth person like you existed.
I like how honest you are about everything and you don’t care what other people think, which is a very important quality. To all the people that post negative comments, my suggestion is to disregard them. There will always be haters.
I’m looking forward to watching more of these videos. Keep up the good work!
Not reading past the first sentence. This guy doesn't even have the facts straight. This car isn't Lincoln ls or ford Mondeo. Those 2 cars actually benefited from Jaguar engineers making those frames. This is one of the best handling and most dependable sedans that many never heard of. It has a comfort of bmw 7 series and drives like bmw 5 series if you have sport version with electrical CATS dampers. Have this car for 12 years. It has never been serviced. Rubber O ring was all that was changed which service botched actually. On the other hand My bmw was broken 100s of times.
By far the funniest video I’ve watched from you. Keep the videos coming!
Bill, Chris here, I appreciate your humble comments because I love love love your videos!!!!!!! Your comic wit is second to none..... I’m telling you sir, you belong on stage!!!!!! Speak to u soon
This Guy should have his own talk show!!
Peace From London. 🙏🙏
This is one of the few car review channels where you can enjoy every video no matter what the car is just because of the commentary.
I owned this s type since 2003 till now. It was the best car i've ever driven.
Nice how reliable is it
Its crazy you found an S Type that clean. Unbelievable
Evan Schwab the only non-meth head S type in the USA
@@777jones they are all beat to shit now, most are in the junkyard
That 08 Jag S-Type looks to be in tip top shape, most of them end up becoming buckets after the 2nd owner.
You HAVE to focus your channel on reviews of cars you aren't selling. The balanced quality of research, insight, and overall Salt and personality is 'friggin" hilarious. God damn bro, so many of your vids are so boss/hilarious, and also informative.
Ah, that's Harry Chapin on the radio, not Cat Stevens. " Cats in the Cradle"
Hilarious monologue in this one.
I'd love a Jag like this -without problems!
alanrtment porter I had a spin in a 97 Ford Taurus once and loved it's Duratec V6. Would one of these with the Durotech 3.0 be a a more expensive upkeep. I see these as an opportunity for exclusivity at a mass market car price up keep wise. Good to know they have treated you well. Congrats on getting a standout uncommon colour. That's what I like in any car.
The S-Type in the 60's was a big, long Mk11 with wire wheels and was a TRUE S-Type being a 4 door rival to the gorgeous E.
@alanrtment porter A little bit narrower; a little less height; but 7 ins longer.
This is my absolute favorite channel!
Bill, Just wanted you to know I'm really digging your observations on the local wildlife, detailer truck mods and the build quality of some of the inventory. This was the funniest one yet and we all need a good laugh during our confinement. As for the Jag, not really a fan but really like the paint. Please keep up the good work!
13:44 lmfao Bill you crack me up
I have not encountered a more funny way of describing a second hand car. What kind of meds is this guy on? Just hilarious, keep it up gramps!!
I watch you tubes from Adelaide Australia and being an oldish fart myself, really appreciate your cynicism/humour! Noticed the S-Type parked on the corner thru many tubes and been hoping you would review it. It's a lovely car and a lovely Jag; but the V8 was better. (BTW: the hood leaper was an optional extra). It's not a Mondeo; it's a Jag. And a bloody nice one at that. So although you kept bagging the thing, you actually praised it more. Well done Bill, keep up the great work!!
I did a double take when I saw the two cars. I had the 2000 silver s type and currently own a 2005 in the seafrost color. Both were V8s. I remember when I first saw a silver s type on the road. It just pulled ahead of the pack. I could see the the leaper and knew it was a jag. I told my husband “a good husband would buy this for his wife”. Yep, I got it before too long. 🤣
Nothing takes away from the beauty of this car
Bill's in top form today!
As a British person who loves cars and interestingly different car review channels, I find this gut Bill fantastic. Not being a woke snowflake I dont take offence at his characterisation of British people, I find it entertaining and funny, as well as perceptive as well on the posher side of English society.
Love to listen to what I call your "announcing voice", there are some people you don't even want to listen to, but you make it not only fun and informative to listen to, but you have a very pleasant tone also, keep it up !
The first 4 minutes of this video had me in tears. Unbeliveable.
Whatever you do don't stop making videos you're my favorite smart-ass that there is we're the same age and I get everything you say keep it up
My wife heard me watching you and said "He could be your twin" as I too am 50 something, Irish/Spanish Catholic, easily annoyed, well versed, a car guy who started as a detailer, then a yardsman, and then a sales guy for Ford & BMW before walking away from it all. I continually complain about the stinking heat and humidity (tropical Queensland, Australia) - and I deal with Supreme idiots in the workplace daily. Stay safe in these ridiculous times mate. Don't expect a response as I know you get many. All the best you, Steve.
One of the best looking jaguars in history
Truly the best car reviewing channel there is. Good info and extremely funny. Glad your and "essential" worker so we can still enjoy these videos!
I owned a 2003 model. It was a blast to drive. The only issue was that almost overnight, I had to put about 4k in it to keep it running. Mainly the money went into the cooling system and suspension. Started to need AC and a window regulator. In retrospect, I wish I had kept the car. Best driving car I ever owned.
Bill, have you thought of opening a fried chicken restaurant next door? Could take care of two birds 🐓 one stone. Keep up the good work, you’re getting us all through this corona shit!
When I come back to Naples to visit some friends, I'm coming over to give you a bottle of good whiskey-
Your a god send in the times of the apocalypse and soon the recipient of the Presidents Medal of Freedom.
Bill, I enjoy viewing all your car videos....your comments constantly make me laugh!!!
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Keep the reviews coming Bill. Keeping me sane during lockdown
Great channel, brilliant reviews, funny as he'll commentary. I had this year and model S Type. Friggin electronic parking brake was the reason I got rid of it. Kept sticking on some days, some days it wouldn't engage at all!
Saying that I do miss it!
Thanks for your videos, stay safe, respect from South East England (Kent)
🐤Bill, you can run but you cant fly🐤
Bill your videos are a tonic
The XType was based on the mondeo not the S type. That shares its platform with a Lincoln something or other .
I thought this was that Korean car that tried to look like a Jaguar or Rolls.
Terry Meadows I know, which h one you’re thinking of... it’s called the Kia Amanti. I wouldn’t be seen dead in that car!
Thankfully Kia did not sell them in my country.
Hyundai Kia and jaguar all copied that 4 headlight design from Mercedes. The Kia looks the worst IMO
illstplaya well, actually Jaguar was channeling its design of the old Mark2 from the 60’s . Mercedes was Channelling it’s Merc’s from the late 50’s to early 60’s . Trying to revive some nostalgia from the generations gone by..Kia & Hyundai are simply trying to “mimick” luxury marques when they released cars in the mid-late 90’s , to have their brand imitate some sort of luxury. Just add Leather, chrome, curved car bodies & interior lights that fade off. These were the typical hallmarks they copied of real luxury marquess to emphasis that “we too “ can add a touch of luxury to our cars.
Well now that you've talked anyone out of wanting it good luck selling it.
I had an 03 S Type, it was a great car to 15 year's old and 157 trouble free miles. I got rid of it to buy my 2012 XF Supercharged V8 Portfolio Edition, biggest mistake I ever made. It's also designed by Ford and had the Ford V8 engine. First was the water pump, at $1,200 then an electrical short I the trunk at $350, next a $1,200 fuel pump. The next was a $2,000+ computer failure then another fuel pump. And the final straw was a blown head gasket. The car had never been hot or over heated. The car was a POS. I just traded out of it for a Lincoln MKS Eco-boost AWD sedan. Much better car.
Tata now owns JLR.
Don't buy a Tata in Jag Drag!
I look forward to your videos and commentary! Don't change for the PC police, you're not disrespectful. Would love to see a review of an early 80's Cad Eldorado.
I swear the only reason this popped up in my recommended is because I was googling the average sales price of my 2001 jaguar haha
Agree👌👌👌👌 but in 2021 it looks like a classic
OK. I came across a video doing research for a car. Yes I have learned allot he is extremely knowledgeable BUT, one thing is for sure.... I think this guy is my new best friend!!!! This guy is a freaking RIOT 😂😂😂😂 I subscribed just so I can continue to be entertained!!!! Idk shit about cars but, I do know this guy is a comedian 🙌🙌🙌 So thank YOU!
Bill, in a PC world, don't change who you are. Your review videos are awesome!
I love these videos! The history and knowledge you share about the cars is awesome, as is the commentary about all things observed during the video shoots.
Bill you need to move to Colorado, the front range where summers are amazing! wonderfully dry, low humidity and dew points, and amazingly beautiful.
I don't know how you find these Jewels. Extremely clean!
The physician who does the beats 🤣🤣🤣
You are an absolute pleasure to listen to Bill, love the cars and your distractions
My morning dose of therapy coupled with a great car review.
Please do stand up comedy. I couldn’t stop laughing 😂💯
As a Canadian having a molson beer in the back seat! Keep up the good work and watch out for those damn birds!
Never thought that you would read the comments, so I never thanked you for your videos.
Well.. Thank you for all the videos and laughs all these years !
By the way I will never again watch a cubby-hole or glove box in a car without thinking if some kind of gun would fit in there, We all know that you love your guns.. but,, do people really keep switch blades around ?'??
Again, thank you for the funny and informative videos ( viewer from Portugal )
OMG bill!!! This video made me laugh so hard!!! The F bombs, I was laughing to the point I was crying and couldn’t breathe. Bahahaaa Thanks for the gut busts!!!
...the best tangents on RUclips
Bill,you are honestly a breath of fresh air in these crazy times,thank you sir👌
Can't wait for you to do that ML
I used to own an S-Type, I believe your comments are quite right. Owned an X-Type too (the Mondeo based Jag) too, have to say the S-Type was more Jag than the X-Type.
I appreciate your regular guy humor. Enjoyable presentation!
The window switches are straight out of an European Ford Mondeo from the 90s....I am not kidding.
Your humor in this video is what made me subscribe - me and my friends has send this video around to world as the humor is just gold - Please make more funny video like this - :)
OK , where do I begin !? first that was Harry Chapin , the V6 has 235 HP , the style is beautiful and the ride is super , how do I know I own 2 a 2000 and 2005 . Also the Mondeo was used for the " X-Type " which came later. I could go on but nuff said.
I always laugh at your videos. As one of those Canadians that you're always talking about cramming into the back seat of one of your beautiful cars I have to say that I wish I was in Florida for the hot muggy weather.
I've see this in the background of several videos and have been waiting for this review. Thanks!
Great! I like how this guys is talking... Polish humor with Irish temperament, I love it.
We're gonna have temps above 120 degrees for the next 6 months here in the fiery low deserts of So. Cal so I hear ya on the weather. Summer in CA sucks ass. Keep safe....
Bill you are just the best regardless of what anyone says. I love your videos they always make me laugh and you're attitude is just perfect!!! never ever change what you do or what you say. I know us Canadians drive you crazy but sending best wishes from Alberta Canada!!!!
I have watched quite a few of your videos, and I just wanted to say I love your cynicism. The videos are great content and always interesting to watch. Thanks for the time you spend and I enjoy watching and listening to you.
Always love these keep them up! You make me want to buy one of your cars.
I had one in the blue/gray color. Loved it. Fun to drive. but once the transmission problems started it became a headache. Heater stopped working too. 😞
Hi Bill, you would be the perfect guest in Jay Leno s Garage show. That would be a great combination of auto knowledge
I've worried about you all week, you Ole bastard,, I was about to call to see if you were alright. Then this video showed up, which I'm glad it did, as your reviews are awesome, too say the least.
Stay well and keep em coming, you're #1. 😃