Obviously, you haven't heard of or driven the HSV Clubsport R8 or it's base counterpart, the Holden Commodore SS (VE model, the last generation before they seized production in 2017). Don't get me wrong, we still get the 300 and all it's variations in Australia, but the HSV Clubsport R8 is a insane sedan. Yes, it's basically the same as the 300 C, big V8, American based, but locally built, sedan, RWD, and you could get manual too. It's a shame that all of these cars are gone here in Australia. Everything is either a small FWD hatch, cross-over SUV, SUV, 4×4 or Ute (a truck in American terms), Vans and EV's. You can get RWD coupes and sedans new, but you would have to pay an extreme amount of money, plus, in Australia, when cars are over a certain amount, we have a luxury car tax, that's on top of all the other taxes. What I would do if we had car prices like you guys have in the States.
I'm from Europe and find it sometimes difficult to understand the specific image American cars have. Is the 300 typically a car driven by rappers and old people? And how does its image compare to the Dodge Charger? 😅
As a 300 owner but 10 years older than this one, ive had it for nearly 4 years and it is reliable and quite quick and is just perfect for me and my personality. I do not regret my purchase.
Man I hate the 300, fuck people like me. It’s treated you good, you like it, and it’s suits you. What more could you ask? I hated driving my 6-speed GT after 2 years I think it’s awesome you still like it after 4 years. But yeah man your car sucks ass.
@@nickodemusjohnson i got one and it’s not as bad as you think lol unless you drive fast often like i do then you’ll be there once a week or every two weeks
I still think there's something to be said for understated, stodgy-looking fun-sedans like the IS500 and now the 300C. Honestly, the world needs more sleeper cars.
@@quick2mack74 i also hate them... its never funny when somebody is trying die hard to look funny.. its just pathetic, but to be fair ive seen some good jokes from the guys but never this scripted bullsh1t
Gonna miss these 300/Charger/Challengers. I owned a 2012 Charger SRT for ten years until trading it in on an M550ix. The BMW is generally a better car, but the Charger wasn't far behind it. It's not surprising how well those vehicles sold. And yes, it is "nearly luxury". Mine had ventilated seats, rain sensing wipers, heated steering, adaptive cruise, adjustable suspension, heated and chilled cup holders, and many more toys that you couldn't find on luxury cars back in 2012, and all for $50k, along with 470hp, 470 ft. lb., and a 4.4 0-60.
Luxury has more to do with materials and design. As someone who claims to currently own a 550 I’m shocked to hear you say this is anywhere near luxury. A $20k corolla has a nicer interior design and materials.
@@donwilber1628 Again, top of the line doesn’t change the incredibly bland design and cheap materials. Sure it adds some cooled seats and some safety systems but at the end of the day it’s still a cheap Stellantis product made for Budget rental fleets. It can’t compare with a 5 series in any way.
How? Its just a classic copy cat japanese design... People get so captured by the aura of these jdm cars they literally blind themselves to the most obvious facts. The century always looked like a parody, a gta version of western cars. Same with tons of other jdm myths like the LS400, the supras, the NSX, etc...
i got lucky 2 weeks ago! i was at the dealership and a white 300c was on the lot as a used car with only 4k miles on it! the original owner's financing fell thru and the car was repossessed and could only be sold as used. fully loaded and no dealer add on's or mark ups. $55k out the door! original tag was $61k. well i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!! one of 2000 here in the USA! #AMERICANMUSCLE
I bought a new '06 SRT8 Charger, best looking one at the time IMO, and with it's 6.1L it was PLENTY fast. I can't imagine having the 6.4 in that car with this power - it's INSANE how far cars have come in the past decade with power numbers. This car is a steal of a deal at this price for what you get!
engines today have more power than 15-20 years ago, you can get 200+ hp from a 4 cylinder, we rented the new Camry this summer, a lot more power than the older cars, tuned for faster acceleration
Ever since the 300 was reborn in 2005 back when I was a teen, it's been one of my most favorite (affordable-ish-when-used) cars, especially after the C and eventually the SRT8.
@@konnerkosobucki3144 My mistake, I didn't ever mean to make it seem like the 300M (or all generations between the beginning and the 10th gen) weren't 300 cars. The 10th Gen was just a significant redesign and brought much more popularity and sales to the 2005+ 300 model compared to the previous generation. A large community would consider that a rebirth - me included. But it's just opinion.
I don't care what anyone says, the 300C is a great car! My parents bought a 2006 300C with the 5.7 hemi in brilliant black paint. We felt rockstars in that car!
I find it absolutely incredible that this car is still in production. I wanted one ten years ago. Back then I was in uni for my second year. I’ve since graduated, had a few jobs, gotten three other cars, quite the jobs, moved on from those cars and moved to another country. All while this thing is still roaring through canyon roads.
I just had a 300 from avis when the rental Nissan altima died, a hell of an upgrade. It was just the v6, 2k miles new, but it had an alpine stereo, 20in wheels, sunroof, leather, and got 30mpg at 80mpg through 130 degree heat with 3 people, 2 dogs, and luggage. It handled surprisingly well, was very comfortable, and had plenty of punch. I was super surprised at how much I liked it. It's just big, bombastic, crass, and simultaneously a sleeper but flashy in weird ways. Kind of hilarious. I totally dig it,and would love to drive the hemi version.
@@volvo09 they're super nice wheels too, great design. This car was kind of a metallic root beer color, and the rims were satin charcoal. Dope af? Yeah kinda lol
@@bman99ss yeah through Nevada, AZ, and Utah at the peak of the recent heat wave, 130 was a typo (and the 80mpg lol) but it was well over 120 degrees, which caused the previous rental altima to cut power and limp along. The 300 didn't care one bit about the heat, just cruised right along.
They use the last gen of these as highway patrol cars in NSW Australia, unless you have something proper quick you are not getting away. Sound great when they send it too, somtime it seems like the cops just pull people over so they have an excuse to launch one of these
I own a 2014 300, we love it. Here in Quebec, there are rare and you actually feel having a unique car. I have two kids and a dog, comfortable for long rides with a big storage. I enjoy it greatly.
I was lucky enough to get the 300 SRT here in Dubai after they stopped selling them in USA and Canada, till this day it has a commanding presence and sounds amazing, and actually because it is rare to find one -as they didn't sell much for some reason-, its value is increasing since Chrysler stopped making them.
This is the last thing I expected to see on Throttle House lol but its clearly why you guys are my favorite 😂😂. The 300C has always been an interesting car to me. It's come a long way from looking like a Kirkland Signature Phantom
I tried so hard to get one of these in Canada. They sold out mega fast! Ive owned the previous SRT8 models. They are so brilliant, theyre comfy, theyve got a huge trunk. And they dont look too outlandish like the Charger. I cant believe they didnt market the 300 more throughout the past half a decade with everyone racing for big power, this thing was a down to earth luxury machine that easily runs with everything else that was selling really well.
@@JoeBeaudette the C and S both come with the v6 or 5.7. only this year the C has the 6.4. would have been better if they just called it the srt again like previous years
@JoeBeaudette Chrysler stopped producing the v8 in AWD(at least in america) . I owned a 2015 300c AWD with the pentastar v6 3.6 engine. It became just a trim line and had nothing to do with the engine
I understand but they still badged it as a C. Before that car I owned a 2007 C with the Hemi V8. Honestly the V6 was almost as quick but got much better mileage.@@JoeBeaudette
Nah, Chryslers are for the more dignified. It would be like putting a Corvette engine into a Cadillac (When Cadillac had big large sedans). Lincoln, Chrysler (and Imperial when they were alive), and Cadillac are for the dignified people who still want power but not overkill power
I have had my '23 300C for a little over a month now. Love the car, just like you said. Big V8, powerful, big comfy sedan. Love it. Yes, you can get a Charger Scat Pack for a few grand less than a 300C. That's the cheapest way into the 6.4L V8. But that doesn't get you the adaptive suspension, active exhaust, etc. To equip the Scat Pack as close as you can to the 300C, the Charger Scat Pack comes in at $63K... much higher than the 300C. Plus, you can't get the Scat Pack with the full Laguna leather (gotta step up to a Hellcat for that) or the panoramic sunroof (unavailable on the Chargers).
@@GooglePixelGoogleThey we’re marked up in some cases to over $100k, and people bought them (shockingly), and here we are 4 months later, and you can pick one up “used” with 50 miles on it, for $10k under MSRP. 😂
I'm glad they kept the car relatively unchanged with upgrades here and there. The reliability is there, it had the Mercedes inspired chassis and actual Mercedes suspension. It is Daimler's "Monster". I just bought a low mileage 2020 300S , w/Red S package, and hope to be driving it for reliable years and years to come. Other than having a stiff ride, for a "luxury" car, I am happy with it.
I remember driving a Chrysler 300C back in 08, and that thing was hyperactive. You barely press a toe on the accelerator, and it's trying to fly somewhere.
That’s a lot of the Chrysler/dodges, interestingly. When i was a teen, I worked at a full service car wash and we weren’t allowed to push the accelerator on a jeep, unless it was manual, to get it out of the tunnel. I still just let my left foot do all the work, honestly lol. The GM kept an active binder of every time a car wash employee around the world was killed by a jeep because of the super sensitive accelerator and it was scarily frequent
It is what it is. These cars aren’t for everyone, but they have their place. My wife and I had a 3.5L Dodge Magnum (estate/station wagon) for a number of years. It ended up being a wonderful and wonderfully practical vehicle for us. I liked a lot. It was always easy to find in a sea (Costco parking lot) of Camry, Civic and small-to-mid sized S/CUVs. Thanks for the video.
The Magnum R/T is a sort of dream car for me (the "dream" part is having the money to give it a "rally" mod makeover, kind of like what was done to the Lambo Hurracan with the Sterratos), but I've heard some generalizations about dodge product's reliability, including of the Magnum. Did you and your wife have any noteworthy issues with reliability, or even just aspects of it's design that you encountered problems with? By the time I can get one, it will be quite and old vehicle so I want to go in knowing what to expect/fix as much as I can.
@@moogle68ive got an rt magnum rwd and its a fun car i like it a lot but eletrical issues are the main problem ive had . ecm fails and it will start running weird and sometimes your guages dont work just 2000s dodge things
@@jerkinitI always wanted a srt8 but I think I’d rather get the R/T with awd if possible and just build the engine up if I wanted more power. I love the design and the throwback to the days of big powerful family wagons.
Spectacular vehicle and value. I have owned 3. Loved them all. The exterior and interior were redesigned in 2011, not 2005 just FYI.Try finding one of these under 60k now... it's virtually impossible. 15:45
Everyone hates on this car but the day is coming when all you'll be able to buy is a hybrid 1.5L, FWD, CVT driven soymbile. Wait, that day isn't coming, it's already here.
Yeah, this car isn't a good value new in this configuration, but you can pick up a 5 speed auto/5.7 Hemi car for $10k or less these days, and it's a cam and converter away from being a 12 second, comfortable cruiser that has that old school, American Muscle feel. I've always felt that 12/13 second daily drivers are a good spot to be in and still be able to have fun without getting too carried away with speed to feel like you're "using it", how James mentioned.
Really the only way a 5.7 will feel like a 6.4 is with a supercharger and that just kills your mileage and it's harder on your entire drive train. It's still overpriced, but a 5.7 just can't replace a 6.4 imo.
"I want a wide body charger scat pack, its cheaper" (11:34) Well, funny story, so did I. Ordered a 2023 SPWB and specced it out to have most of the bells and whistles I wanted and it came out to 63k. Fast forward two months after ordering it and low and behold there is a 2023 300c for sale that the person who ordered it backed out on. MSRP? 56k. And it came with more options than the SPWB. Long story short, I am the lucky owner of a 2023 300c.
Do they realize that a Charger Scat Pack Widebody with no options but the Plus Package is $60,905? I’m actually impressed they were able to get this so low.
Mopar Insiders did a breakdown, $66k for a comparable Charger Scat Pack vs the $55k for the 300C. I think it was a great deal if you were able to snag one before the waitlist filled up.
I hope Stellantis does not kill off the Chrysler brand. They have found it difficult to position it within their portfolio, but I think they can easily fit it in alongside Jeep and Dodge. Jeep being their off-road feature-rich vehicle, Dodge as their sports marque and Chrysler as a proper luxury vehicle with more focus on electrification. Chrysler holds so much history in their back catalogue and I think given the right direction the brand can be revived to its glory days.
It’s going to be a tough thing to do now that Chrysler is only going to have the Pacifica to sell. Not sure that alone can float an entire brand. Hey supposedly they have the large EV coming next year- and a couple crossovers based on Jeeps- so just maybe. They need a version of the Wagoneer.
I totally agree Chrysler has so much history in the luxury segment and so many amazing concepts that could help push them there. But it seems like Stellantis just doesn't really care about Chrysler, as it seems they've given Jeep the role of Chrysler, being the luxury part of the company unfortunately. Its really sad to see
Yes, definitely an aging platform, but if you think about the buyer they are targeting, it's just fancy enough to feel like an upgrade. also, I'm glad the v8 is still around.
The 6.4 Hemi's want to be thrashed on. My wife and I have a 2020 Durango SRT and if you mosey around town for too long in it, it gets sluggish. We make it a point to take it outside the city at least once a week and beat on it.
If you need to take a newer vehicle and ‘beat on it’ after it becomes sluggish from a week of city driving I have some unfortunate news… it’s a piece of shit.
Just remember that this was the basic car formula for most of 20th century USA; V8 up front, rear wheel drive in back, four door sedan. Yeah, you had slant sixes and thrift sixes and Pontiac's Trophy Four, and wagons and coupes and so very much more; but this is the last of the giants, a once common style of vehicle now reduced to a flame snorting special edition. It's beautiful.
These are not the most refined cars, but they are definitely good cars. I am 29 and I want a hot hatch or a "warm hatch" I am not this or the Charger's intended demographic. However, I have always had a massive soft spot for the V8 300's and Dodge Chargers, especially the Charger AWD V8.
I have gone completely electric. I drive a Rivian truck, and I gave my Model Y performance to my son. Next I have an order in for a Volve EX30 for my wife. This is a car I would like to buy and put it in storage with as few miles as possible and then send it to auction in 10 years or so. A sure winner.
I love how the car has been the same for along time. Car makers need to take note more on that. Cars dont need to drastically change ever 3 or 4 years. Let it age 10 year with a few touch ups and marinate amongst the people.
The reviewers compared the 300C to the Lexus IS500 and preferred the latter. However, the 300C costs less, has more room, and is faster 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. I dont think anyone intetested in a 300C would actually find the Lexus to be a serious alternative.
Great video. My experience with these has been horrible. I've had the 1st gen with the 6.1HEMI. I've owned it for two years. Out of that two years ownership, it spent more than 5 months in the shop for variety of reasons. Never again
2 years and only 5 months? That sounds pretty fly for a Chrysler. I managed to get out of my Ford purchase since the repair technicians themselves kept finding faults one after the other. One being that the rear doors where so ill fitted that they scraped the paint! "Hey we agree, here's your money back"
Something not often mentioned is that these cars, and Challenger and Charger, have independent rear suspension (carry over from Mercedes). Handling is better than expected for many reviewers, and I think that's why.
@@karlmuller44 From the Wikipedia page: While the suspension was revised, the front suspension is still derived from the design of the Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W220) and the 5-link rear design from the Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W211).
I owned a 300S AWD and V6. I loved the car for a daily. I bought it used before covid and watched the price of it soar, had to sell it back when I made money on it. I really, really like it. The style is muscular, gangster, American, comfy. My only complaint is that I could not get it with a stick shift. In Sport mode it was plenty of fun, but I hate having to switch modes, I would prefer leaving it in gear/downshifting for a quick blast around a corner. 300hp is the sweet spot for fun and MPG in a daily.
They look cool, they sound great and they go pretty well. I think its a W. No point comparing apples to oranges. Take it for what it is, hemi V8 rwd full size sedan 🙌
Great vid! Loved seeing you guys on the podcasts btw. And id take the Lexus since it'll last til the heat death of the universe. And I like the look the most. And resale value. Tho the Caddy is cool too, V6 or otherwise.
I drove a 2014 300 SRT recently and absolutely loved it, even with that ancient Mercedes 5-speed auto. The ZF 8 is nicer, obviously... but that old WA580 is quite fun when paired with the 392.
These and the high trim chargers catch a lot of flack, but I gotta say, they kinda nail it for the price. I loved my charger when I had it. It handled surprisingly well and had enough power to melt tires in third gear. It didn’t have many features but it was extremely comfortable and easy to drive when you wanted to cruise the highway. It had keyless entry, push button start, and a backup camera, and at the time those were all luxurious to me. And despite Chrysler’s reputation, I drove that thing until 200k miles and the only thing that ever happened was a bad water pump. Otherwise very cheap to maintain. I drive a Mk7.5 GTI now and it’s honestly not any nicer, just a better fit for what I need at this stage in life. If and when I return to a sedan it will be a hellcat charger.
...I've always thought these cars looked great, especially when everyone else is building boring looking CUV/Crossovers...and other sedans were jagged and looked out of place (Cadillac)...this always just looked right...nice smooth lines, proportions were always just right room to spare (sure you may sit high, but with a big level hood like this car has you want to be able to see where it ends...other cars drooped their noses for a less desirable effect)...to me they have always drove well, and for the money you really couldn't beat them...sure you can get nicer, but you will spend more to get it...I also like the fact that they aren't 'over-techy'....cars are getting to nutty with too much 'tech'...too much stuff to go wrong, and some of the tech really isn't needed...such as soft close doors...these are some of the reasons that higher priced luxury cars can't hold their value as when, after a certain age, they are known for a lot of expensive repairs in their 'tech'...to me the 300's were always the right balance of car, tech, luxury, style, power and ride...
I’ve always liked the looks of the 300C , of course I’ve always been a sucker for 4 door performance cars, 1 of my favorites which I owned was a 1991 Taurus SHO, I wish the mercury marauder was still around
I also liked the 300C and 300M, sad that they sucked when compared to the options. Then again, they were based on the Mercedes-Benz E-class of the 90s. It was dated before it released.
@@purwantiallan5089 It is probably best in its video game shape. Easy to adjust all the flaws, at least in some games, no headaches from the poor reliability/build quality and no need to sweat over the gas milage.
Before I watched the video, I thought C meant CVT, lol. Oh, and the Toyota Century looks awesome in the background. On another note- I wish you guys would go back to doing reviews together in the car.
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This is undoubtedly one of the best V8 saloons of 2013
This is undoubtedly one of the V8 saloons of 2013*
@@AM-uk7jv 😂
It’s cool nowhere near top though
Obviously, you haven't heard of or driven the HSV Clubsport R8 or it's base counterpart, the Holden Commodore SS (VE model, the last generation before they seized production in 2017). Don't get me wrong, we still get the 300 and all it's variations in Australia, but the HSV Clubsport R8 is a insane sedan. Yes, it's basically the same as the 300 C, big V8, American based, but locally built, sedan, RWD, and you could get manual too.
It's a shame that all of these cars are gone here in Australia. Everything is either a small FWD hatch, cross-over SUV, SUV, 4×4 or Ute (a truck in American terms), Vans and EV's. You can get RWD coupes and sedans new, but you would have to pay an extreme amount of money, plus, in Australia, when cars are over a certain amount, we have a luxury car tax, that's on top of all the other taxes. What I would do if we had car prices like you guys have in the States.
Correction. Coolest V8 Saloon of 2008. Old as dust. I'll give ya $20 for it
I've always liked the 300C. I know it's not perfect, but it does fill a niche. A big American sedan with a brutal V8 and RWD.
A true big drivers car.
The Hood's choice Rolls Royce
The perfect purchase when your 401k and Social Security starts paying off and you want to treat yourself!
Have to respect the effort Chrysler made with this. Not at all my thing, but it does seem well executed as mentioned
I'm from Europe and find it sometimes difficult to understand the specific image American cars have. Is the 300 typically a car driven by rappers and old people? And how does its image compare to the Dodge Charger? 😅
I can’t believe I just watched a video on a Chrysler 300. But you guys didn’t disappoint.
So what they are nice smh
Just what I was thinking
Somehow, we all did. That's how much we enjoy watching these guys lol.
me too!
@@SlipAngleG70i am also thinking about this.
As a 300 owner but 10 years older than this one, ive had it for nearly 4 years and it is reliable and quite quick and is just perfect for me and my personality. I do not regret my purchase.
It's good to have support groups.
How often do you go to the gas station??😅
Man I hate the 300, fuck people like me. It’s treated you good, you like it, and it’s suits you. What more could you ask? I hated driving my 6-speed GT after 2 years I think it’s awesome you still like it after 4 years. But yeah man your car sucks ass.
@@nickodemusjohnson i got one and it’s not as bad as you think lol unless you drive fast often like i do then you’ll be there once a week or every two weeks
The thing what I found out about the owners of these cars is that they will never admit the amount of times they spent on garage for repairs.
I still think there's something to be said for understated, stodgy-looking fun-sedans like the IS500 and now the 300C. Honestly, the world needs more sleeper cars.
Exactly, more cars to cruise and let the kids sleep in the back. Nice and relaxing, not exciting enough to wake em.
IS500 and IS F are still better than this 2023 300C.
@@purwantiallan5089 I agree with you, but I appreciate this car for what it is.
@@purwantiallan5089They cost more too.
@@user-cv7ey6fb4c ...said the guy hoping to finally score a girl ,by getting a fancy sportscar😌😏🙄☝️😁🥸
These guys do not fail to make a great video, especially the intros.
Man they’ve been at it for years. Remember watching them 5 years ago or so. They’ve gotten soooo much better over time.
They are absolutely fantastic
Those intros are corny and not even funny. I always skip them.
@@quick2mack74 i also hate them... its never funny when somebody is trying die hard to look funny.. its just pathetic, but to be fair ive seen some good jokes from the guys but never this scripted bullsh1t
@@quick2mack74 you're kinda vanilla then
Gonna miss these 300/Charger/Challengers. I owned a 2012 Charger SRT for ten years until trading it in on an M550ix. The BMW is generally a better car, but the Charger wasn't far behind it. It's not surprising how well those vehicles sold. And yes, it is "nearly luxury". Mine had ventilated seats, rain sensing wipers, heated steering, adaptive cruise, adjustable suspension, heated and chilled cup holders, and many more toys that you couldn't find on luxury cars back in 2012, and all for $50k, along with 470hp, 470 ft. lb., and a 4.4 0-60.
Yep. Especially the 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 that still beloved by many. Also first appeared on GT5!
They’ll be back in 4 years, I’m sure of it😂😂😂
Luxury has more to do with materials and design. As someone who claims to currently own a 550 I’m shocked to hear you say this is anywhere near luxury. A $20k corolla has a nicer interior design and materials.
@@mattX5 not even close to what my ‘12 SRT had. But then mine was top of the line.
@@donwilber1628 Again, top of the line doesn’t change the incredibly bland design and cheap materials. Sure it adds some cooled seats and some safety systems but at the end of the day it’s still a cheap Stellantis product made for Budget rental fleets. It can’t compare with a 5 series in any way.
0:01 James' cheekily parked Toyota Century looks gorgeous even all the way back, I'm sure those weathertec mats would fit perfectly in it
Chrysler 300C 2023 Model is Toyota Century 2.5.
How? Its just a classic copy cat japanese design... People get so captured by the aura of these jdm cars they literally blind themselves to the most obvious facts. The century always looked like a parody, a gta version of western cars. Same with tons of other jdm myths like the LS400, the supras, the NSX, etc...
@@AI-qd4vbexcept their not. There's a reason the Japanese royal family doesn't use Rolls Royces.
i got lucky 2 weeks ago! i was at the dealership and a white 300c was on the lot as a used car with only 4k miles on it! the original owner's financing fell thru and the car was repossessed and could only be sold as used. fully loaded and no dealer add on's or mark ups. $55k out the door! original tag was $61k. well i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!! one of 2000 here in the USA! #AMERICANMUSCLE
God bless America 🇺🇸
I bought a new '06 SRT8 Charger, best looking one at the time IMO, and with it's 6.1L it was PLENTY fast. I can't imagine having the 6.4 in that car with this power - it's INSANE how far cars have come in the past decade with power numbers. This car is a steal of a deal at this price for what you get!
I've got a 6.1 challenger and it's more than enough power
engines today have more power than 15-20 years ago, you can get 200+ hp from a 4 cylinder, we rented the new Camry this summer, a lot more power than the older cars, tuned for faster acceleration
The 6.1 SRT 300 was a 12 sec car stock. Not bad for a naturally aspirated heavy sedan.
Power is measured in KW or HP, but not displacement
Ever since the 300 was reborn in 2005 back when I was a teen, it's been one of my most favorite (affordable-ish-when-used) cars, especially after the C and eventually the SRT8.
SRT8 was ahead of its time. Naturally aspirated v8 RWD affordable car. The other car that's affordable with big v8 was the Hyundai Genesis R spec.
There was a 99 -04 300 generation
@@konnerkosobucki3144 I don't think Chrysler considers the 300M in the actual 300 rebirth, even though it has 300 in it.
@ninjafohhiya it's still a 300. I wouldn't consider it a rebirth but it brought it back before the LH platform went away
@@konnerkosobucki3144 My mistake, I didn't ever mean to make it seem like the 300M (or all generations between the beginning and the 10th gen) weren't 300 cars. The 10th Gen was just a significant redesign and brought much more popularity and sales to the 2005+ 300 model compared to the previous generation. A large community would consider that a rebirth - me included. But it's just opinion.
I bought the first gen 300C for my Dad, way back in 2007. Glad to know it's exactly the same, for when my daughter needs to hook her old man up.
Well done guys! Walter White is proud of you!
No, no, no, no, NO!!!!
pontiac aztec review next
That was the most shameless plug I’ve ever seen in any popular tv series
I think his was an S right? I don’t remember
@@MrMacroJesseSkyyeah but it was fucking sick and changed my mind on American cars
I don't care what anyone says, the 300C is a great car! My parents bought a 2006 300C with the 5.7 hemi in brilliant black paint. We felt rockstars in that car!
I find it absolutely incredible that this car is still in production. I wanted one ten years ago. Back then I was in uni for my second year. I’ve since graduated, had a few jobs, gotten three other cars, quite the jobs, moved on from those cars and moved to another country. All while this thing is still roaring through canyon roads.
I just had a 300 from avis when the rental Nissan altima died, a hell of an upgrade. It was just the v6, 2k miles new, but it had an alpine stereo, 20in wheels, sunroof, leather, and got 30mpg at 80mpg through 130 degree heat with 3 people, 2 dogs, and luggage. It handled surprisingly well, was very comfortable, and had plenty of punch. I was super surprised at how much I liked it. It's just big, bombastic, crass, and simultaneously a sleeper but flashy in weird ways. Kind of hilarious. I totally dig it,and would love to drive the hemi version.
How hilarious is it that 20" wheels used to be rapped about, and now you can get them on a rental car 😆
@@volvo09 they're super nice wheels too, great design. This car was kind of a metallic root beer color, and the rims were satin charcoal. Dope af? Yeah kinda lol
130-degree heat?
@@bman99ss yeah through Nevada, AZ, and Utah at the peak of the recent heat wave, 130 was a typo (and the 80mpg lol) but it was well over 120 degrees, which caused the previous rental altima to cut power and limp along. The 300 didn't care one bit about the heat, just cruised right along.
You pretty much described why I want one.
They use the last gen of these as highway patrol cars in NSW Australia, unless you have something proper quick you are not getting away. Sound great when they send it too, somtime it seems like the cops just pull people over so they have an excuse to launch one of these
I own a 2014 300, we love it. Here in Quebec, there are rare and you actually feel having a unique car. I have two kids and a dog, comfortable for long rides with a big storage. I enjoy it greatly.
I was lucky enough to get the 300 SRT here in Dubai after they stopped selling them in USA and Canada, till this day it has a commanding presence and sounds amazing, and actually because it is rare to find one -as they didn't sell much for some reason-, its value is increasing since Chrysler stopped making them.
Definition of “sweet ride.” It’s kinda gangster, reminds me of a 90’s SS Impala.
This is the last thing I expected to see on Throttle House lol but its clearly why you guys are my favorite 😂😂. The 300C has always been an interesting car to me. It's come a long way from looking like a Kirkland Signature Phantom
I tried so hard to get one of these in Canada. They sold out mega fast! Ive owned the previous SRT8 models. They are so brilliant, theyre comfy, theyve got a huge trunk. And they dont look too outlandish like the Charger. I cant believe they didnt market the 300 more throughout the past half a decade with everyone racing for big power, this thing was a down to earth luxury machine that easily runs with everything else that was selling really well.
That's sad because these vehicles are made in Canada!
@@frazzleface753i thought also made in Poland.
Just looked them up on AutoTrader and there is a few in Ontario.
The best car I ever owned was a 2015 300C with a V6. Had it for 7 years and never had a problem with it. Reliable, good power and a nice ride.
If it had a V6 it wasn’t a C
Jus sayin
@@JoeBeaudetteMaybe i’m wrong but i believe the C is available with a v6
@@JoeBeaudette the C and S both come with the v6 or 5.7. only this year the C has the 6.4. would have been better if they just called it the srt again like previous years
@JoeBeaudette Chrysler stopped producing the v8 in AWD(at least in america) . I owned a 2015 300c AWD with the pentastar v6 3.6 engine. It became just a trim line and had nothing to do with the engine
I understand but they still badged it as a C. Before that car I owned a 2007 C with the Hemi V8. Honestly the V6 was almost as quick but got much better mileage.@@JoeBeaudette
The 300c is sexy as hell. Sad it didn't get a makeover for a new year before stopping them. Also they should have definitely did a run of 300 hellcats
I’m definitely bummed we never got to see a factory 300 SRT with a Hellcat badge. A lot of people have done the swap though and it’s glorious.
@@LgSutterbyyea it would be a CTS-V killer for sure.
Nah, Chryslers are for the more dignified. It would be like putting a Corvette engine into a Cadillac (When Cadillac had big large sedans). Lincoln, Chrysler (and Imperial when they were alive), and Cadillac are for the dignified people who still want power but not overkill power
"Would be like putting a Corvette engine in a Cadillac" so the CT5-V Blackwing
We are going to miss cars like this, truly.
I have had my '23 300C for a little over a month now. Love the car, just like you said. Big V8, powerful, big comfy sedan. Love it. Yes, you can get a Charger Scat Pack for a few grand less than a 300C. That's the cheapest way into the 6.4L V8. But that doesn't get you the adaptive suspension, active exhaust, etc. To equip the Scat Pack as close as you can to the 300C, the Charger Scat Pack comes in at $63K... much higher than the 300C. Plus, you can't get the Scat Pack with the full Laguna leather (gotta step up to a Hellcat for that) or the panoramic sunroof (unavailable on the Chargers).
Not to mention that the 300c is infinitely better looking.
@@joshuasterling2144🫤 idk about that
this is Not better looking.. Charger looks better.. Especially the wide body edition.. I will take a Daytona / Scat over this all day long..
I don't like how the Charger looks at all. I like the Challenger and the 300, Charger is trying too hard. Widebody makes it worse.
Our car has the differential of the hellcat to
Due to the extreme markups on scatpacks and hellcats today, the 300c actually makes sense now…
These 6.4 300Cs are marked up well beyond the Scat Packs.....well beyond them.
@@GooglePixelGoogle Possibly, but my local dealers are selling some scat packs for 60-70k
I got mine MSRP no markups. Unless you consider paying MSRP a markup by itself lol@@GooglePixelGoogle
@@GooglePixelGoogleThey we’re marked up in some cases to over $100k, and people bought them (shockingly), and here we are 4 months later, and you can pick one up “used” with 50 miles on it, for $10k under MSRP. 😂
@@GooglePixelGooglenot really they are low 50s.
European here. Even though it’s old, I really like the looks. It’s refreshing not to see enormous screens and touch buttons.
I'm glad they kept the car relatively unchanged with upgrades here and there. The reliability is there, it had the Mercedes inspired chassis and actual Mercedes suspension. It is Daimler's "Monster".
I just bought a low mileage 2020 300S , w/Red S package, and hope to be driving it for reliable years and years to come.
Other than having a stiff ride, for a "luxury" car, I am happy with it.
300c look so much better then a Charger.
agree
Love the Toyota Century in the background of the intro. Nice touch James!
I remember driving a Chrysler 300C back in 08, and that thing was hyperactive. You barely press a toe on the accelerator, and it's trying to fly somewhere.
That’s a lot of the Chrysler/dodges, interestingly. When i was a teen, I worked at a full service car wash and we weren’t allowed to push the accelerator on a jeep, unless it was manual, to get it out of the tunnel. I still just let my left foot do all the work, honestly lol. The GM kept an active binder of every time a car wash employee around the world was killed by a jeep because of the super sensitive accelerator and it was scarily frequent
@@yeoscore That's crazy
That’s the magic of the great torque 🚀
The throttles feel very front loaded in every dodge/chrysler vehicle I've ever driven
I despise front loaded accelerators. 2012 Rav4 has the same issue. Miserable experience. That's why you need to test drive.
It is what it is. These cars aren’t for everyone, but they have their place. My wife and I had a 3.5L Dodge Magnum (estate/station wagon) for a number of years. It ended up being a wonderful and wonderfully practical vehicle for us. I liked a lot. It was always easy to find in a sea (Costco parking lot) of Camry, Civic and small-to-mid sized S/CUVs. Thanks for the video.
The Magnum is one of my absolute favorite practical cars. An R/T with the optional AWD would be my ideal spec, but they're very scarce.
The Magnum R/T is a sort of dream car for me (the "dream" part is having the money to give it a "rally" mod makeover, kind of like what was done to the Lambo Hurracan with the Sterratos), but I've heard some generalizations about dodge product's reliability, including of the Magnum. Did you and your wife have any noteworthy issues with reliability, or even just aspects of it's design that you encountered problems with? By the time I can get one, it will be quite and old vehicle so I want to go in knowing what to expect/fix as much as I can.
@@moogle68ive got an rt magnum rwd and its a fun car i like it a lot but eletrical issues are the main problem ive had . ecm fails and it will start running weird and sometimes your guages dont work just 2000s dodge things
@@jerkinitI always wanted a srt8 but I think I’d rather get the R/T with awd if possible and just build the engine up if I wanted more power. I love the design and the throwback to the days of big powerful family wagons.
@@RatBürgerSk8what about Neon R/T also?
Spectacular vehicle and value. I have owned 3. Loved them all. The exterior and interior were redesigned in 2011, not 2005 just FYI.Try finding one of these under 60k now... it's virtually impossible. 15:45
Had this thing three weeks as a rental and I have to say, I had a lot of fun with this car! I really loved it!
Everyone hates on this car but the day is coming when all you'll be able to buy is a hybrid 1.5L, FWD, CVT driven soymbile. Wait, that day isn't coming, it's already here.
Yeah, this car isn't a good value new in this configuration, but you can pick up a 5 speed auto/5.7 Hemi car for $10k or less these days, and it's a cam and converter away from being a 12 second, comfortable cruiser that has that old school, American Muscle feel. I've always felt that 12/13 second daily drivers are a good spot to be in and still be able to have fun without getting too carried away with speed to feel like you're "using it", how James mentioned.
What years were those available?
Yeah most I see are 2-4k under 150k. Very tempting sometimes
Really the only way a 5.7 will feel like a 6.4 is with a supercharger and that just kills your mileage and it's harder on your entire drive train. It's still overpriced, but a 5.7 just can't replace a 6.4 imo.
Straight from an actually hilarious intro to a burnout
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Well done
He said the clock is working REALLY hard to luxury up the place 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"I want a wide body charger scat pack, its cheaper" (11:34)
Well, funny story, so did I. Ordered a 2023 SPWB and specced it out to have most of the bells and whistles I wanted and it came out to 63k.
Fast forward two months after ordering it and low and behold there is a 2023 300c for sale that the person who ordered it backed out on. MSRP? 56k. And it came with more options than the SPWB. Long story short, I am the lucky owner of a 2023 300c.
Thank you Weather Tech for supporting these awesome guys! ❤
I have WeatherTech mats in my 2018 300C and they continue to work perfectly!
Do they realize that a Charger Scat Pack Widebody with no options but the Plus Package is $60,905? I’m actually impressed they were able to get this so low.
Mopar Insiders did a breakdown, $66k for a comparable Charger Scat Pack vs the $55k for the 300C. I think it was a great deal if you were able to snag one before the waitlist filled up.
Crazy how long this body design been around
Same for the interior
Or the chassis going back to the 90s
I think it's the one thing they really nailed with all modern 300s. Even the 2005 model still looks quite good imo.
@@alles_klar🤷🏾♀️in ur opinion it’s too expensive
This design since 2012. I think they face-lift it in 2015.
James been in the gym 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Breaking bad Mexico mode is crazy 😂
there is no way they still produce this car, this is crazy
It's right in the video.
So true haha
Last year of production
I thought it seized production 2years ago…
Wait until you find out about Nissan with their line up. GTR, Frontier and Titan 😂
I hope Stellantis does not kill off the Chrysler brand. They have found it difficult to position it within their portfolio, but I think they can easily fit it in alongside Jeep and Dodge. Jeep being their off-road feature-rich vehicle, Dodge as their sports marque and Chrysler as a proper luxury vehicle with more focus on electrification. Chrysler holds so much history in their back catalogue and I think given the right direction the brand can be revived to its glory days.
It’s going to be a tough thing to do now that Chrysler is only going to have the Pacifica to sell. Not sure that alone can float an entire brand. Hey supposedly they have the large EV coming next year- and a couple crossovers based on Jeeps- so just maybe. They need a version of the Wagoneer.
I totally agree Chrysler has so much history in the luxury segment and so many amazing concepts that could help push them there. But it seems like Stellantis just doesn't really care about Chrysler, as it seems they've given Jeep the role of Chrysler, being the luxury part of the company unfortunately. Its really sad to see
These are garbage cars. Let them slip into oblivion.
Stellantis is going to be Death of the Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram brands. Though they probably would have ended up dead anyways, sadly.
@@NA-en7kzit's going to be just keep and ram soon
Yes, definitely an aging platform, but if you think about the buyer they are targeting, it's just fancy enough to feel like an upgrade. also, I'm glad the v8 is still around.
No doubt. The engine sound to 2023 300C is like Buick Special Muscle Car. LOL! 😂
The ultimate baller on a budget vehicle…
The reference to the hometown rapper was spot on…
Props for the Weasley reference… 😂
Wow these videos are more like watching network TV than youtube! Great job on the production and editing.
Never a dull moment with these two 😂
I had absolutely no idea they still made the 300. Lol
Well they cancelled it , can't order it anymore for now
Just wanted to add that it has the panoramic sun roof that does not come on any charger 😊
Suspension massive difference too for daily driver
SO ! OOOHHHH IT HAS A PANORAMIC SUNROOF ! BLAH BLAH BLAH ! STILL SUCKS THO !
And adjustable, brake and gas pedals….
Until 6 months ago … I’ve had a 300 for the past 12 years (a 2008 and then a 2011) …. Can’t lie… I do miss them.
I GREW UP ON THIS ROAD, LOS ANGELES CREST. SUPER COOL.
The LX/LD platform cars handle surprisingly well for their size!
Decent'ish vehicles so long as you dont over pay.
Yeah people are still overpaying for cars. That why a lightly equipped truck is $65k+.
I love antique luxury looks, Lexus and Chrysler do a great job of that!!!!!!
The 6.4 Hemi's want to be thrashed on. My wife and I have a 2020 Durango SRT and if you mosey around town for too long in it, it gets sluggish. We make it a point to take it outside the city at least once a week and beat on it.
If you need to take a newer vehicle and ‘beat on it’ after it becomes sluggish from a week of city driving I have some unfortunate news… it’s a piece of shit.
Just remember that this was the basic car formula for most of 20th century USA; V8 up front, rear wheel drive in back, four door sedan. Yeah, you had slant sixes and thrift sixes and Pontiac's Trophy Four, and wagons and coupes and so very much more; but this is the last of the giants, a once common style of vehicle now reduced to a flame snorting special edition. It's beautiful.
This is the last “American Car” since the CT6 died. A big chromed RWD sedan. It’s like an endangered species. It has my respect.
I always appreciate the Harry Potter references in every video from James 😂
We got the 300 SRT in Australia. Was a very underrated car. I had the same car in 2016 6.4 with 8 spd auto.
Indeed we did mate. The Highway Patrol loved using them. They still do till the new replacements come in.
Australia sounds great, it’s like America except with V8 sedans plastered everywhere. Here, it’s really only coupes and trucks that keep the V8 around
I still have my 2016 SRT and still love driving it
I had a 2012 srt with the 392. A true driving experience!
Great look and stance....basically ALL the toys, almost 500hp....fun as hell AND in 20yrs it will be worth more!👍👍
I have those WeatherTech coasters haha! Use them everyday for my coffee!
This intro felt directed just for me 😂🥰
A similarly optioned narrow body charger scat pack is actually about 8-10K higher in price and that’s not including the mark-ups
James would wear a mask at the airport 😂
These are not the most refined cars, but they are definitely good cars. I am 29 and I want a hot hatch or a "warm hatch" I am not this or the Charger's intended demographic. However, I have always had a massive soft spot for the V8 300's and Dodge Chargers, especially the Charger AWD V8.
I have gone completely electric. I drive a Rivian truck, and I gave my Model Y performance to my son. Next I have an order in for a Volve EX30 for my wife. This is a car I would like to buy and put it in storage with as few miles as possible and then send it to auction in 10 years or so. A sure winner.
“This is the sound of a double cheeseburger with fries” had me rolling 😂😂😂😂😂
I love how the car has been the same for along time. Car makers need to take note more on that. Cars dont need to drastically change ever 3 or 4 years. Let it age 10 year with a few touch ups and marinate amongst the people.
These cars are great! Love my 2006 300c diesel. These new ones are even better
Ya know to each their own 😊
Man ive always loved the looks of the Chrysler 300 im still gonna buy me one when i get the chance
The reviewers compared the 300C to the Lexus IS500 and preferred the latter. However, the 300C costs less, has more room, and is faster 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. I dont think anyone intetested in a 300C would actually find the Lexus to be a serious alternative.
I drove my 2006 Chrysler 300 2.7L to 350k miles and the only thing it ever needed was a thermostat housing.
Mopar or no car!
One of the best looking g cars on the road. It looks muscular and elegant at the same time. Just a really good road presence. Beautiful car.
Great video. My experience with these has been horrible. I've had the 1st gen with the 6.1HEMI. I've owned it for two years. Out of that two years ownership, it spent more than 5 months in the shop for variety of reasons. Never again
2 years and only 5 months? That sounds pretty fly for a Chrysler.
I managed to get out of my Ford purchase since the repair technicians themselves kept finding faults one after the other.
One being that the rear doors where so ill fitted that they scraped the paint!
"Hey we agree, here's your money back"
The 6.1 hemi was absolutely horrible. The 6.4 has proven it’s self to be a great engine
@@Dezeauwhat was the biggest problem with the 6.1?
Something not often mentioned is that these cars, and Challenger and Charger, have independent rear suspension (carry over from Mercedes). Handling is better than expected for many reviewers, and I think that's why.
is this version of the 300c still based on der 210 Mercedes E-Class chassis?
@@karlmuller44 From the Wikipedia page: While the suspension was revised, the front suspension is still derived from the design of the Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W220) and the 5-link rear design from the Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W211).
I owned a 300S AWD and V6. I loved the car for a daily. I bought it used before covid and watched the price of it soar, had to sell it back when I made money on it. I really, really like it. The style is muscular, gangster, American, comfy. My only complaint is that I could not get it with a stick shift. In Sport mode it was plenty of fun, but I hate having to switch modes, I would prefer leaving it in gear/downshifting for a quick blast around a corner.
300hp is the sweet spot for fun and MPG in a daily.
They look cool, they sound great and they go pretty well. I think its a W. No point comparing apples to oranges. Take it for what it is, hemi V8 rwd full size sedan 🙌
Great vid! Loved seeing you guys on the podcasts btw. And id take the Lexus since it'll last til the heat death of the universe. And I like the look the most. And resale value. Tho the Caddy is cool too, V6 or otherwise.
I drove a 2014 300 SRT recently and absolutely loved it, even with that ancient Mercedes 5-speed auto. The ZF 8 is nicer, obviously... but that old WA580 is quite fun when paired with the 392.
Agree bro.
Great video once again. I have never really liked the way the Chrysler 300 look, but they do a better job with the interior.
The 300 was always better than the charger n challenger on the interior! More bang 4 your buck. I had all 3.
I love this bromance you two have😅. This is definitely my favorite American YT car channel.
I loved my 2018 300s v6. Plenty quick, 32 mpg highway. Best highway car I ever drove.
These and the high trim chargers catch a lot of flack, but I gotta say, they kinda nail it for the price. I loved my charger when I had it. It handled surprisingly well and had enough power to melt tires in third gear. It didn’t have many features but it was extremely comfortable and easy to drive when you wanted to cruise the highway. It had keyless entry, push button start, and a backup camera, and at the time those were all luxurious to me. And despite Chrysler’s reputation, I drove that thing until 200k miles and the only thing that ever happened was a bad water pump. Otherwise very cheap to maintain. I drive a Mk7.5 GTI now and it’s honestly not any nicer, just a better fit for what I need at this stage in life. If and when I return to a sedan it will be a hellcat charger.
Let’s just start it off with a burnout! God I love you guys. Best car reviewers to date
The center console clock hearkens back to the original 1960’s 300. You guys are Top Gear’s true successor!
TH is one of the few channels where my finger automatically hits the like button before even seeing the video.
...I've always thought these cars looked great, especially when everyone else is building boring looking CUV/Crossovers...and other sedans were jagged and looked out of place (Cadillac)...this always just looked right...nice smooth lines, proportions were always just right room to spare (sure you may sit high, but with a big level hood like this car has you want to be able to see where it ends...other cars drooped their noses for a less desirable effect)...to me they have always drove well, and for the money you really couldn't beat them...sure you can get nicer, but you will spend more to get it...I also like the fact that they aren't 'over-techy'....cars are getting to nutty with too much 'tech'...too much stuff to go wrong, and some of the tech really isn't needed...such as soft close doors...these are some of the reasons that higher priced luxury cars can't hold their value as when, after a certain age, they are known for a lot of expensive repairs in their 'tech'...to me the 300's were always the right balance of car, tech, luxury, style, power and ride...
damnnn I was hoping this car would stay underrated 😂😂
In 10-20 years people will look for these as a replacement for their 1996 Impala SS.
Not true lol
You are doing amazing job ... thanks
Keep going
I’ve always liked the looks of the 300C , of course I’ve always been a sucker for 4 door performance cars, 1 of my favorites which I owned was a 1991 Taurus SHO, I wish the mercury marauder was still around
I've always liked the 300. It's just too bad they never really did much with it.
I also liked the 300C and 300M, sad that they sucked when compared to the options.
Then again, they were based on the Mercedes-Benz E-class of the 90s. It was dated before it released.
I liked the 2005 300C from Gran Turismo 4 more than 2023 300C despite had more power.
@@purwantiallan5089 It is probably best in its video game shape.
Easy to adjust all the flaws, at least in some games, no headaches from the poor reliability/build quality and no need to sweat over the gas milage.
Funny review- great job as always!
For the money, and if I really wanted a good sounding V8 in a Rwd sedan- I would definitely get the IS500.
I had a first gen 300 hemi, albeit with a few kilometers on it...I really loved that car..spacious and powerful .
Before I watched the video, I thought C meant CVT, lol. Oh, and the Toyota Century looks awesome in the background. On another note- I wish you guys would go back to doing reviews together in the car.
REALLY ? LOL HAHAHA WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU THINK THE C STOOD FOR CVT ? You must not be a REAL CAR GUY !
@@shannacollins4741Are you paid to be this obnoxious?
@@shannacollins4741 or… and just hear me out real quick… you could be nice about it instead of being a jerk.
@@shannacollins4741 well, i'm not an AMERICAN car guy...very funny 🙄
I'll keep my 2014 srt 300
And FYI, I paid $65000 Canadian to drive my 14 off the lot.
sucker!