Nelson is the man. He wasn’t friends with Ayrton and there was that Brazilian rivalry. Which makes his support for Senna even more heartwarming and surprising at the same time.
Well, Piquet and Senna weren't exactly bitter enemies, they just didn't like eachother outside of the track. They did respect eachother when racing though. When Senna died, Piquet left whatever he was doing to go back to his apartment. A journalist asked him what he thought about Senna's tragic death. He said: "It was clearly steering + rear suspension damage. Rear suspension gets shot, the front of the car lifts off the ground and you can't control it anymore. Thus, he ended up crashing in the wall. Senna... he loved to push himself to the limits, and I'm pretty sure it was entirely possible for him to break any records, including Fangio's. All he had to do was stay in the team and do his best."
Nelson did it on purpose to hurt and humillate Senna. He knew everyone would agree with him. I know Nelson very well and he has this kind of sense of humor.
He talks a lot of shit but he respected Senna, as much shit as he talks I'm sure it's his way of dealing with stress, etc. As disrespectful as he is, he is respectful in his own way. He put it his way and nobody else would understand but I'm sure Senna did
@Gopnik_putin_ there is a lot of hype built up around Senna. That hype is 'helped' by the fact he died so we haven't seen him age and decline. He was a great driver, but he was a deeply flawed individual, particularly in the way he raced. In his rivalry with Prost he showed signs of mental illness.
@Gopnik_putin_ I'll check that out, thanks. I highly recommend you read the book 'Senna vs Prost' by malolm folley. It provides some great insights into Senna's mind and actions. It also helps that I'm old enough to have been around when Senna was racing.
Ayrton was not a cold, calculating machine. On the contrary, he was a respectable man, due to his nobility of character, his great sensitivity and his honor.
When Balestre left the presidency of the FIA, he admitted that he had acted for Prost and against Senna. That's why Balestre stayed out of it in 1990 when Senna collided with Prost.
@Michaelis Arcanjo ridiculous, Prost turned in way too early, here’s proof: ruclips.net/video/jVh4oKqxtJo/видео.html He was turning onto the grass, clearly deliberate. The fact that Senna got a license ban for using common sense and going through the access chicane further exacerbates the ridiculousness of the situation. Senna had every right to complain.
Sejamos justos, Prost também era um gênio, os 3 muito superiores a um certo alemão que só ganhou o que ganhou por não ter tido adversários e só jogar sujo
Fuckin Nelson😂😂 he a trip! But he knew Ayrton was very upset he could see it in his eyes he was very mad! Thats why he was the first to say something because he knew Ayrton got cheated out of the 1989 Worlds driver Championship!!!! I can tell from his body language and emotion that he was ready to throw hands because of people messing with his passion to compete and win what was rightfully his!!
A defesa do Ayrton diante de toda a safadeza que fizeram um ano antes veio de quem ele jamais esperaria, ali nas palavras do Grande, imenso Nelson Piquet ficou provado que tudo o que o Senna tinha feito apos o acidente covarde estava certo, tenho a certeza de que Senna tomou a decisão de fazer o que fez na largada daquela corrida após este briefing.
Na vdd uma coisa não tem nenhuma relação com a outra amigo. Senna foi punido em 89 porque recebeu ajuda externa pra voltar a corrida e ninguém nem na F1 de hj pode receber ajuda de fiscais para voltar a pista. Isso não é a minha opinião, é o que estava no regulamento. O que Piquet está falando é que na época se vc perdia o traçado os fiscais não podiam deixar vc voltar por questão de segurança pois há tráfego mas que era igualmente perigoso o piloto ficar ali parado pois se mais alguém perder o carro vai acertar vc então decidiram que o piloto podia seguir, isso é totalmente diferente de receber ajuda pra ligar o carro e voltar a corrida que foi exatamente o que aconteceu em 89.
@@Bruno-Marcelo negativo. Vc está errado se permitia sim que os fiscais empurrassem o carro se ele estivesse em posição de risco e se o motor pegasse poderia seguir normalmente, assista o vídeo com a narração da Globo o Galvão fala claramente quando o carro pega que ele tem que virar e voltar sem cortar a chicane , durante a transmissão o Reginaldo Leme tb fala em punição por ter cortado a chicane. Então ele foi punido sim por ter cortado caminho e no ano seguinte Piquet mostrou que Senna fez a coisa certa a ser feita sem por ninguém em risco
@@2mmarcelorj Relativamente à assitência, o Murray Walker e o James Hunt disseram o mesmo. Se os fiscais tirarem o carro de perigo o motor pegar, siga caminho.
@@R9naldo and if your mommy rushed into the basement a few minutes earlier and kicked the crap out of you for using her laptop without permission , there would have been one pointless pathetic comment less in this thread
Yeah! As a braziliam I know Piquet's dark sense of humor and bullshit he speaks. He clearly was being an asshole just to piss of Senna. He knew everyone was going to agree with him proving easyly and in front Senna that he lost a championship just for political issues. He wanted to humillate Senna. That's it.
crazy things sound like : 🧖🏿♂️💎💍🌈🤳🏿 : “ thank you very much for your hard work guys, for believing in me blah blah blah 🤢🤢🤢🤮 as for Nelson , he spoke his mind
The english speaking media was very biased aginst Senna...starting with Murray Walker and of course good old Balestre...the only fair commentator in those days was James Hunt. James appreciated Senna very very much.
Things are changed when a man dies, but although in the case of the 1989 incident referred to here, Senna was not at fault, the ugly truth about his driving is that he could bend the rules when it suited him. Since the summer of 1994, Senna has been somehow canonised, if not deified. He was a wonderful driver and sublimely entertaining. But he also knew every trick on the book and was no stranger to playing dirty.
Eri in angelo . Non un uomo bello come il sole. Il suo sguardo era diverso. Lui era diverso. Con un cuore grandissimo. Grazie di tutto. Sarai sempre nel mio ❤️❣️🌹🙏
Piquet: O ano passado ferraram muito com o Ayrton. Para que insistir no mesmo erro. Porque nao fica assim a regra: Se vc perder a chicane, o fiscal te para. Se não tiver tráfego te deixa ir. porque se vc for na contramão Isso me muito mais perigoso, porque se um carro perder a chicane também vai bater em você. Daí o Senna fala o que vimos. Isso é uma piada, porque o ano passado eu falei isso e foi muito ruim para mim.
@@gamt17 Exatamente. A manobra que ele fez era legalizado pelas regras, mas como já admitiu, Balestre deu uma mãozinha pro Alain, e viu ali uma oportunidade.
Piquet'in Ayrton Senna'ya desteğini samimi buluyorum. Evet rekabet vardı Braziyada Ayrton daha çok seviliyordu Piquet Senna'yı kıskanıyordu. Ama adalet buydu. Haklının yanında durdu Piquet
Quem criou essa rivalidade entre os dois foi a imprensa brasileira e um comentarista chamado Galvão Bueno ele odiava o Nelson Piquet, Galvão era amigo de Senna provavelmente ele ficava falando coisas ruins sobre ele ou fazendo fofoca.
The thing is that they wanted disqualify Senna no matter what he did. I mean even if he spin turned and went back to the circuit without going through the escape zone, they would start accusing him for the push start. Senna got trapped. He needed to pass Prost in the race cleanly.
A pesar de que Piquet y Senna eran Rivales, la forma en como defendió a Ayrton Senna de las pendejadas que la FIA le impuso por parte de Jean Marie Ballestre eso no cualquiera lo haría.
He had no hope of winning the championship anymore and was totally fucked mentally because of what happened at Suzuka. If they did not robbed him there, he would be much better mentally at the last race. Btw they robbed him in Estoril 1989 as well. A black flaged Mansel took him out and they did nothing. Balestre basically stole 1 win and 1 possible win from Ayrton in 1989.
@@alexandrecl4331 Mansell was given a one race ban for ignoring the flag. Senna had no answer for the Ferrari's at Estoril that day, no one took a win away from him, no need to exaggerate, but he did lose valuable points.
Yet another proof that Piquet wasnt another a*whole with a beef against ayrton. He was a loud mouth...BUT...he was 99% righ when said something. He was just a guy with no time for bs. He couldnt stand brazilian reporters pesting him over Ayrton, but he sure could see that they did a number on Senna in 88 over a stupid decision and when push comes to shove he was the only guy with balls to press the 'suits' against the wall. Nelson Piquet: love him or hate him, but he was one of a kind
The man is smart on words and straight to points wonder why he humiliated Hamilton and he is a 3 times WDC with narrow edge not in very superior car. He's certainly underappreciated
i don't see piquet speaking up here as an act of defending senna, rather just wanting to have the right to use the escape road again in case the same thing happens to himself like "hey you took away the escape road from senna but can you please give it back to us now in case this ever happens to us, especially me?"
Não entendo porque tanta gente nos comentários fala que o Senna teve o título mundial roubado no Japão em 89, sendo que ele tinha que ganhar Suzuka e Qdelaide tambem. 2 vitórias eram necessárias para o título, não apenas Suzuka.
Nelson stood up for Senna and said that they fucked up last year with the ruling against him. the rest of the drivers agreed. the expression on Prosts face says it all. Prost took Senna out in 1989 then used his relationship with the president of the FIA to rob Senna of the title. Prost knew how to play the corrupt political side of F1
Senna did the exact same in the following years, but his fanboys purposedly relativize and bagatellize his disgusting manouveurs, just because he's dead. That's the harsh truth.
So was the whole grid. You think Senna was not selfish? He barred Warrick from entering Lotus and made the team choose him as #1 driver over De Angelis.
there is a huge difference between getting your opponent off the track and being disqualified from a race for political decisions, tell me in which case senna used political influence to disqualify someone who has won a race.
I think people get this misconstrued as Piquet backing Senna, its more that at that moment they both had a common enemy. The rule that stripped Senna of his 1989 title was ridiculous irregardless of who you were rooting for, and it was a rule that would F over every driver. Piquet spoke up because he didnt want to have to deal with it himself.
Senna: o que Nelson falou e vcs aprovaram foi exatamente a mesma coisa que eu disse ano passado e vcs rejeitaram. (Realmente foi uma piada o que a FIA fez)
When I was about 4 years old, I saved up $8 to buy a die cast replica model of an F1 car from my local Post Office. I’m 37 now, and I only just identified it as Pique’s 1989 United Colors of Benetton Ford. I’m very grateful. At that time we had the final Grand Prix of the season in Adelaide, South Australia.
Piquet sometimes jokes and slander others, but he has a clear subjectivity and when he says what he has to say, he comes forward more clearly than anyone else. I want to see him interviewing the winner at the Brazilian Grand Prix again.
Le français n'est pas ma langue maternelle, mais je vais essayer. Narrateur: Pour la troisième fois consécutif le championnat serait décidé par le grand prix du Japon. mais cette fois si Proust ne finissait pas, Ayrton serait champion. Piquet: Avec la grosse erreur de l'an dernier avec Ayrton, faut-il répéter la même chose? La chose la moins dangereuse est que si vous manquez la chicane et qu'il n'y a pas de circulation, ils devraient vous laisser partir. Si vous devez faire demi-tour et reculer contre une autre voiture qui avance, c'est très dangereux. Ron Dennis: Est-ce que tout le monde est d'accord? OUI! Senna: Merci beaucoup. Je ne peux pas tolérer plus. C'est une blague. Après ce qui s'est passé l'année dernière, cette situation est une blague. Ici, je n'ai rien dit, vous entendez quelqu'un mentionner le point et vous voyez que tout le monde est d'accord. L'année dernière a été terrible pour moi. Désolé mais je vais partir.
Piquet doesn't get enough credit he deserves. One of the greatest F1 drivers and one of the few to win the drivers championship with a car that didn't win the constructor's.
To be fair to Ayrton Senna, he could have easily better Prost on merit, but didn't wanna risk Prost playing the long game because he could would have lost. This was just payback to Prost for the previous year on track collision. I often wondered why Prost retired from F1 after getting his 4th title with Williams when he could be been the first to win 5-6 titles before Schumacher dominance.
“Hey Piquet, your enemy got f*!” “He was not my enemy, you see? He was a competitor. Don't confuse things." - Nelson Piquet and some idiot at the South American Karting Championship the day after Senna's death
@@marcosneves9127 Senna finished 16 points behind Prost. He needed to win the last two races to overtake him in the standings. Even if you give him the win in Japan, he still doesn't have enough to beat Prost (76-69) because he DNFd in Australia all on his own. Simple really. Why do you think McLaren dropped the DQ appeal? Could it be because the results in Japan had no effect on the outcome of the championship?
All that bitching and moaning then he goes and puts his own life and Prost’s life in danger by shunting them both off the track at 130+ mph. Funny how it’s a travesty of justice when it goes against Senna, but we don’t bat an eye to his own travesties
In my opinion they didn't had to DQ Senna for this issue in '89 specialy when you see the reaction of the other drivers about this type of situation in this video one year later. BUT!! If you see the footage of the crash between Senna and Prost at Suzuka backthen in '89, you can clearly see when the marshalls pushed Senna back on track, from there he could make the first turn of the chicane! It's a shame he still choose to go straight and didn't fulfill the race distance by "cutting the chicane" and got DQ'ed for that. The should've known the rules, even how silly some may be! He was aware of "the system" that was not realy supporting him against Prost. Every time i watch that video a can't stop myself screeming: TURN RIGHT, TURN RIGHT!
Senna went thru the escape road, where you have to zig zag your way thru, as there were those plastic blocks on the escape road. That is the track if you miss the chicane, and he followed protocol. He did the right thing in that situation in itself also he had already lost a lot of time with the crash with Prost. The FIA did Senna dirty that race. Even Piquet a year later said that, the penalty was BS.
Piquet was right. He made a suggestion that completely makes sense. It doesn't matter if there was another rule in the previous year. Senna did something that was forbidden. Period. And then he reacts (as usual) as a victim.
he said : “I’m out of here because an asteroid is about to strike this goddamn room - too many idiots have gathered at the same spot talking nonsense 😡put@ padres ajajaiii !!! 💥🚪
Drastic: Piquet and Senna just hated and couldn't see each other. Then the master of cheating started to speak in defense of Ayrton Senna, you have to understand how hugely dirty what happened the year before was. Even Nelson Piquet couldn't stand that.
Vi muitos relatos sobre como era a personalidade de Senna. Mesmo com sua última namorada, ele era uma pessoa difícil de lidar. Eu vi um trecho do livro da Galisteu (última namorada) que o Senna foi grosseiro com ela, porque ela fez um ensaio fotográfico para uma revista brasileira, onde ela saiu na capa. Senna provavelmente era uma pessoa de ego muito alto, muito competitivo e que não aceitava perder. Típico de ariano (namorei um e foi um dos piores relacionamentos). Meu ex de Áries tinha o mesmo traço de personalidade. Ele era agressivo, não aceitava perder, discutia com facilidade
Senna DSQ at Japan 89 was OK but the thing is they DSQ Senna for the wrong reason. Japanese trackside marshals clearly gave Senna a pushstart all the way Senna's engine stalled. Back in the day the regulation said you can push a car at a dangerous position in terms to put the car outside the track like japanese marshals did with Prost's McLaren. It wasn't the same thing what Senna did asking those marshals to give him a pushstart to rejoin the race. Japanese marshals never pushed Senna's McLaren to the grass outside the track like they did with Prost's McLaren. Everybody knows Senna was like a God in Japan back in those days. Off course japanese marshals were helping Senna and not helping Prost. So Senna was pushstarted. They DSQ Senna for the wrong reason but nevertheless Senna deserved to be DSQ. End of story. Period.
Dói na alma dos Sennistas ter que admitir que 1989 estava perdido mesmo antes da batida no Japão. Ele bateu na Austrália sendo que precisava ganhar. Mesmo que tivessem conseguido contornar a desclassificação do Japão, o campeonato era do Prost de qualquer forma.
Já, e pelo visto você não. O efeito borboleta é justamente sobre uma mudança alterando todos os acontecimentos futuros. Talvez com a vitória em Suzuka ele não teria batido em Adelaide
@@Artimao Talvez não existe. O que existe é o que realmente aconteceu. Senna bateu em Adelaide e suas chances de reverter qualquer coisa nos tribunais acabaram. 76 a 60 pro Prost antes do Japão, Senna precisava de um milagre para vencer esse campeonato que ele não merecia vencer pra começar, pois foi incompetente durante várias corridas daquele ano. Não existe bicho, papão nem conspiração francesa, ele sabia que cortar a chicane era proibido e receber auxílio externo para ligar o carro também. No mais, seguem os 34 anos de choro.
very harsh, almost bullying :/ the way they all voted against him here.. very bad. Just goes to show even all those as a collective could not stop him! RIP legend!
Same response to Bridget Cox's post..unless im understanding your posts wrong.. they didn't bully against him. Nelson Piquet says they F*cked up the previous year with the terrible ruling they gave Senna. Then Ron Dennis asks everyone if they agree...which they do. So all the drivers were behind and supported Senna in this video. Senna got upset because the FIA bosses were idiots. Senna the Legend!!!
Yep, this is correct. Nelson made the point that Senna (and Dennis) made the previous season and the other drivers backed him up. Senna was upset at the way the FIA handled the previous season. He was upset in this video because all the drivers backed up the position he had argued the previous year.
yep..they voted FOR him..piquet(who didnt like senna and said he was gay,many times) quoted the fia's ruling the previous year to disqualify senna...aytron got shafted by balestre and ALL knew it...this briefing is also at suzuka...we know how the race went lol
what i will add,is senna probably regretted his actions here...he could get emotional very easily...he's been knwn to cry to at times over racing issues..he got robbed in 89 and it fucked his head up totally....he was obsessed with winning,he.d do things other drivers wouldnt and couldnt..and as for pure speed is the GOAT ..pole position master...and i miss him tbh..thankyou senna..RIP
There's TWO kinds of champions : Champions like Vatanen, Gilles villeneuve ... and there's winners like Rhorl, Schumacher, Senna, Prost... The difference is the "let's do the math"
Nah you guys didn't understand the video. Piquet argued in favor of Senna actually, saying what happened in the previous year was wrong (dangerous) and the rules should change, and everybody agreed. Senna's rage is against the directors, like saying "See? Everybody agrees that what screwed me last year is a bullshit rule". He and Ron Dennis made the same point the year before but it was not accepted then. That said, Piquet indeed was not very friendly with Ayrton usually.
Piquet backed Senna's action from the previous year here before the 90 race to avoid the same situation again. Everybody agreed with him and Senna got mad due the oriny in the situation.
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0:45, Senna surprised that Piquet is defending him, and Prost looks confused as to why he is
Lit is not defending sennab
Nelson is the man. He wasn’t friends with Ayrton and there was that Brazilian rivalry. Which makes his support for Senna even more heartwarming and surprising at the same time.
You know the politics were bad that even Piquet was defending Senna
Well, Piquet and Senna weren't exactly bitter enemies, they just didn't like eachother outside of the track. They did respect eachother when racing though. When Senna died, Piquet left whatever he was doing to go back to his apartment. A journalist asked him what he thought about Senna's tragic death. He said: "It was clearly steering + rear suspension damage. Rear suspension gets shot, the front of the car lifts off the ground and you can't control it anymore. Thus, he ended up crashing in the wall. Senna... he loved to push himself to the limits, and I'm pretty sure it was entirely possible for him to break any records, including Fangio's. All he had to do was stay in the team and do his best."
@@choppergunner8650 Well either way, at least it's nice to see Piquet stand up, if there is a brilliant Brazilian that isn't Senna, it's Piquet
@@gdmya both are great drivers, but one's never been better than the other. Totally different driving styles.
Nelson backing Ayrton, it's warming to the heart.... Thankyou Mr Piquet.
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“Another journalist asked me ‘be honest, who’s the best? You or Senna?’
“I said ‘I’m alive’.”
@@aavalos7760 luck. he hit the Tamburello too. 😅
Nelson did it on purpose to hurt and humillate Senna. He knew everyone would agree with him.
I know Nelson very well and he has this kind of sense of humor.
@@malumello17absolute bs
Senna was just angry cause everybody agreed with Piquet that the right thing is go ahead. Instead of the last year when Senna was disqualified.
artyon has the looks to be a major movie star
He was soo handsome here
he was extremely good looking but what made him stand out was his spirit
It's not that Piquet was backing up Senna, It's just that he hated the same absurditues... You can say they had a common enemy
He talks a lot of shit but he respected Senna, as much shit as he talks I'm sure it's his way of dealing with stress, etc.
As disrespectful as he is, he is respectful in his own way. He put it his way and nobody else would understand but I'm sure Senna did
If Piquet is even sticking up for him then he was clearly in the right.
Real man takes a stand in front of the irresponsble greed maf....
I miss him! RIP! True legend!
would he be a legend had he not died?
@Gopnik_putin_ lots of drivers of equal talent from his era and since aren't held in the same 'reverence' - Prost, Piquet, Mansell, Hakkenen, etc
@Gopnik_putin_ there is a lot of hype built up around Senna. That hype is 'helped' by the fact he died so we haven't seen him age and decline.
He was a great driver, but he was a deeply flawed individual, particularly in the way he raced. In his rivalry with Prost he showed signs of mental illness.
@Gopnik_putin_ I'll check that out, thanks.
I highly recommend you read the book 'Senna vs Prost' by malolm folley.
It provides some great insights into Senna's mind and actions.
It also helps that I'm old enough to have been around when Senna was racing.
@Gopnik_putin_ nice 'chatting'. Not all YT interactions go like that. Thanks.
Ayrton was not a cold, calculating machine. On the contrary, he was a respectable man, due to his nobility of character, his great sensitivity and his honor.
Nelson, the Legend! The best personality in F1 history. 👍👍👍
I love Piquet because he's not PC. But how about Hunt?
Nelson showed the the true colors of Fia there
When Balestre left the presidency of the FIA, he admitted that he had acted for Prost and against Senna. That's why Balestre stayed out of it in 1990 when Senna collided with Prost.
@Michaelis Arcanjo ridiculous, Prost turned in way too early, here’s proof: ruclips.net/video/jVh4oKqxtJo/видео.html
He was turning onto the grass, clearly deliberate. The fact that Senna got a license ban for using common sense and going through the access chicane further exacerbates the ridiculousness of the situation. Senna had every right to complain.
No one needed to hear that, that was very clear. Senna is my 4th time world champion
@@michaelisarcanjo5146 delusional.
@@michaelisarcanjo5146 I gave you concrete proof that Prost cheated and you call me a fanboy.
@@michaelisarcanjo5146 I gave you video evidence of Prost crashing into Senna
Prost realising that his politics are about to haunt him.
Typical French behaviour
Wasn’t really his fault. He didn’t make the call.
Oh my God what kind of strong caracter had Senna simple the best
You Mean Character
Si porque morreu e o melhor se tivesse vivo era igual aos outros pilotos esquecidos aqui no Brasil todos lembram do acidente do senna não dele
0:27 this eyes 😢
He's livid, bru, pure anger inside
Probably at that moment he was cursing even someone's 5th generation
Today I'm more than 10 years older than him back then. Dear Lord, he was a terrific knight!
I miss the door-slam at the end of this scene.
“you do not fuk smash my door” - Balestre (probably)
Piquet and Senna, aliens driving F1 cars, legends!
Sejamos justos, Prost também era um gênio, os 3 muito superiores a um certo alemão que só ganhou o que ganhou por não ter tido adversários e só jogar sujo
@@2mmarcelorjSO THAT DONT MEAN THEM 2 NlGGAS AINT STILL SOME FUCKING ALIENS DRIVING IN F1, YOU GODDAMNNED GOOF
Fuckin Nelson😂😂 he a trip! But he knew Ayrton was very upset he could see it in his eyes he was very mad! Thats why he was the first to say something because he knew Ayrton got cheated out of the 1989 Worlds driver Championship!!!! I can tell from his body language and emotion that he was ready to throw hands because of people messing with his passion to compete and win what was rightfully his!!
Man at times I wish so much that Ayrton would still be here
A defesa do Ayrton diante de toda a safadeza que fizeram um ano antes veio de quem ele jamais esperaria, ali nas palavras do Grande, imenso Nelson Piquet ficou provado que tudo o que o Senna tinha feito apos o acidente covarde estava certo, tenho a certeza de que Senna tomou a decisão de fazer o que fez na largada daquela corrida após este briefing.
Na vdd uma coisa não tem nenhuma relação com a outra amigo. Senna foi punido em 89 porque recebeu ajuda externa pra voltar a corrida e ninguém nem na F1 de hj pode receber ajuda de fiscais para voltar a pista. Isso não é a minha opinião, é o que estava no regulamento. O que Piquet está falando é que na época se vc perdia o traçado os fiscais não podiam deixar vc voltar por questão de segurança pois há tráfego mas que era igualmente perigoso o piloto ficar ali parado pois se mais alguém perder o carro vai acertar vc então decidiram que o piloto podia seguir, isso é totalmente diferente de receber ajuda pra ligar o carro e voltar a corrida que foi exatamente o que aconteceu em 89.
@@Bruno-Marcelo negativo. Vc está errado se permitia sim que os fiscais empurrassem o carro se ele estivesse em posição de risco e se o motor pegasse poderia seguir normalmente, assista o vídeo com a narração da Globo o Galvão fala claramente quando o carro pega que ele tem que virar e voltar sem cortar a chicane , durante a transmissão o Reginaldo Leme tb fala em punição por ter cortado a chicane. Então ele foi punido sim por ter cortado caminho e no ano seguinte Piquet mostrou que Senna fez a coisa certa a ser feita sem por ninguém em risco
@@2mmarcelorj Relativamente à assitência, o Murray Walker e o James Hunt disseram o mesmo. Se os fiscais tirarem o carro de perigo o motor pegar, siga caminho.
@@paganini0332 E o Piquet no briefing ainda completou este raciocinio dizendo que ter que voltar na contra mão para voltar a corrida era perigoso
Senna proved his point without saying one single word during the debate. What else FIA? GOAT, RIP.
Aryton Senna = 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
Alain Prost = 🏆 🏆 🏆
@@redline1420 If Senna didn't die, and stayed at Williams, he would have won 1996 and 1997. 5/6x WDC. King of F1
@@R9naldo and if your mommy rushed into the basement a few minutes earlier and kicked the crap out of you for using her laptop without permission , there would have been one pointless pathetic comment less in this thread
He's Hollywooding here beause of the cameras.
@@R9naldo He would lose to Hill and Schumacher.
Damn... Prost and Senna at that time their situation was downright ugly.
Senna is so hot btw
Piquet and Senna were bitter enemies ... but, anyway...
Yeah! As a braziliam I know Piquet's dark sense of humor and bullshit he speaks. He clearly was being an asshole just to piss of Senna. He knew everyone was going to agree with him proving easyly and in front Senna that he lost a championship just for political issues.
He wanted to humillate Senna. That's it.
@@malumello17 i guess u miss the point in that conversation
@@malumello17 nada a ver pqp
@@malumello17 the typical Senna cultist.
When Senna first started in F1 Piquet called him a Sao Paulo taxi driver!
Gloria a te Ayrton
despite the crazy things he's said, Piquet is a legend
crazy things sound like :
🧖🏿♂️💎💍🌈🤳🏿 : “ thank you very much for your hard work guys, for believing in me blah blah blah
🤢🤢🤢🤮
as for Nelson , he spoke his mind
@@albeback5234ou seja jogou no ventilador a merda que fizeram com o Ayrton um ano antes
Thanks for providing some context here for ppl who didn’t follow F1 back then! Eeesh
The english speaking media was very biased aginst Senna...starting with Murray Walker and of course good old Balestre...the only fair commentator in those days was James Hunt. James appreciated Senna very very much.
É ainda mais lindo e atraente quando estava puto e revoltado 😍🥰
Jamais se declarou homosexual, uma pena.
Muié
1:03 Prost knew piquet was right..
Things are changed when a man dies, but although in the case of the 1989 incident referred to here, Senna was not at fault, the ugly truth about his driving is that he could bend the rules when it suited him.
Since the summer of 1994, Senna has been somehow canonised, if not deified. He was a wonderful driver and sublimely entertaining. But he also knew every trick on the book and was no stranger to playing dirty.
what are you smoking my dude?
Piquet !!!
Eri in angelo .
Non un uomo bello come il sole.
Il suo sguardo era diverso.
Lui era diverso.
Con un cuore grandissimo.
Grazie di tutto.
Sarai sempre nel mio ❤️❣️🌹🙏
Piquet: O ano passado ferraram muito com o Ayrton. Para que insistir no mesmo erro. Porque nao fica assim a regra: Se vc perder a chicane, o fiscal te para. Se não tiver tráfego te deixa ir. porque se vc for na contramão Isso me muito mais perigoso, porque se um carro perder a chicane também vai bater em você.
Daí o Senna fala o que vimos. Isso é uma piada, porque o ano passado eu falei isso e foi muito ruim para mim.
Então o Senna ficou p. por que em 90 foi decidido que valeria a manobra que ele fez em 89 e foi desclassificado?
@@gamt17
Exatamente.
A manobra que ele fez era legalizado pelas regras, mas como já admitiu, Balestre deu uma mãozinha pro Alain, e viu ali uma oportunidade.
@@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE Obrigado!
Tem gente que fala que nessa reunião o Piquet tinha prejudicado o Senna.
Pura invenção.
@@gamt17
Pelo contrário, Nelson parecia estar defendendo o Senna.
@@gamt17 na verdade todos aceitaram a regra de voltar na contramão e propuseram continuar assim . Só o Piquet se manifestou contra essa regra idiota
1:35 You can see shame in Prost's eyes
So funny at the end:"Thank you! Thank you very much hey!" :))
Piquet'in Ayrton Senna'ya desteğini samimi buluyorum. Evet rekabet vardı Braziyada Ayrton daha çok seviliyordu Piquet Senna'yı kıskanıyordu. Ama adalet buydu. Haklının yanında durdu Piquet
Quem criou essa rivalidade entre os dois foi a imprensa brasileira e um comentarista chamado Galvão Bueno ele odiava o Nelson Piquet, Galvão era amigo de Senna provavelmente ele ficava falando coisas ruins sobre ele ou fazendo fofoca.
90 Zuzuka is purely a revenge of 89 and I have no blame of Aryton
Senna, Ron, Red and White McLaren....F1, I miss it.
That was the ultimate proof that Senna had been ROBBED in 1989
0:58 Prost body language
He knew that he wasn’t going to finish the race lol
Piquet ,o melhor deles todos !
GOAT
Charlie Whiting at 00:16
ajcardiff1 good eye
Rip....
Rip
Great spot
The thing is that they wanted disqualify Senna no matter what he did. I mean even if he spin turned and went back to the circuit without going through the escape zone, they would start accusing him for the push start. Senna got trapped. He needed to pass Prost in the race cleanly.
A pesar de que Piquet y Senna eran Rivales, la forma en como defendió a Ayrton Senna de las pendejadas que la FIA le impuso por parte de Jean Marie Ballestre eso no cualquiera lo haría.
Piquet é muito honesto e verdadeiro. Defende o que é certo.
A huevo hombre, a huevo.
Piquet and every other driver knew Ayrton got fucked over at the 1989 finale..
He got fucked in Japan but Senna's DNF in Australia meant the DQ had no affect on the championship.
He had no hope of winning the championship anymore and was totally fucked mentally because of what happened at Suzuka. If they did not robbed him there, he would be much better mentally at the last race.
Btw they robbed him in Estoril 1989 as well. A black flaged Mansel took him out and they did nothing. Balestre basically stole 1 win and 1 possible win from Ayrton in 1989.
@@alexandrecl4331 Mansell was given a one race ban for ignoring the flag. Senna had no answer for the Ferrari's at Estoril that day, no one took a win away from him, no need to exaggerate, but he did lose valuable points.
Yet another proof that Piquet wasnt another a*whole with a beef against ayrton. He was a loud mouth...BUT...he was 99% righ when said something. He was just a guy with no time for bs. He couldnt stand brazilian reporters pesting him over Ayrton, but he sure could see that they did a number on Senna in 88 over a stupid decision and when push comes to shove he was the only guy with balls to press the 'suits' against the wall. Nelson Piquet: love him or hate him, but he was one of a kind
The man is smart on words and straight to points wonder why he humiliated Hamilton and he is a 3 times WDC with narrow edge not in very superior car. He's certainly underappreciated
Proast?
i don't see piquet speaking up here as an act of defending senna, rather just wanting to have the right to use the escape road again in case the same thing happens to himself like "hey you took away the escape road from senna but can you please give it back to us now in case this ever happens to us, especially me?"
Não entendo porque tanta gente nos comentários fala que o Senna teve o título mundial roubado no Japão em 89, sendo que ele tinha que ganhar Suzuka e Qdelaide tambem. 2 vitórias eram necessárias para o título, não apenas Suzuka.
Context?
Nelson stood up for Senna and said that they fucked up last year with the ruling against him. the rest of the drivers agreed. the expression on Prosts face says it all. Prost took Senna out in 1989 then used his relationship with the president of the FIA to rob Senna of the title. Prost knew how to play the corrupt political side of F1
And Senna didn't?
Senna did the exact same in the following years, but his fanboys purposedly relativize and bagatellize his disgusting manouveurs, just because he's dead. That's the harsh truth.
Yep, Prost was a selfish dick
So was the whole grid. You think Senna was not selfish? He barred Warrick from entering Lotus and made the team choose him as #1 driver over De Angelis.
there is a huge difference between getting your opponent off the track and being disqualified from a race for political decisions, tell me in which case senna used political influence to disqualify someone who has won a race.
I think people get this misconstrued as Piquet backing Senna, its more that at that moment they both had a common enemy. The rule that stripped Senna of his 1989 title was ridiculous irregardless of who you were rooting for, and it was a rule that would F over every driver. Piquet spoke up because he didnt want to have to deal with it himself.
Senna: o que Nelson falou e vcs aprovaram foi exatamente a mesma coisa que eu disse ano passado e vcs rejeitaram.
(Realmente foi uma piada o que a FIA fez)
Piquet, great driver, amazing personality
One of the most underrated drivers in history.
When I was about 4 years old, I saved up $8 to buy a die cast replica model of an F1 car from my local Post Office. I’m 37 now, and I only just identified it as Pique’s 1989 United Colors of Benetton Ford. I’m very grateful. At that time we had the final Grand Prix of the season in Adelaide, South Australia.
0:58 How's The Renault eDams?
Asking himself if eDams is valid on scrabble :)
Context please???
Piquet sometimes jokes and slander others, but he has a clear subjectivity and when he says what he has to say, he comes forward more clearly than anyone else. I want to see him interviewing the winner at the Brazilian Grand Prix again.
RIP Senna and Piquet, Brazilian legends.
piquet is still alive homeboy
@@bradtaft8120 ha ha ha , tragic tragic !!!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁
@@bradtaft8120 You either die a hero, or live long enough to become an accomplice to jewel theft.
@@Igor_054 based Piquet. Also, the jewels weren't stolen, you PT simp. They were a gift.
@@bradtaft8120 You don't have to die to be a legend
Si quelqu'un peut faire le verbatim en français ce serait très sympa!
Le français n'est pas ma langue maternelle, mais je vais essayer.
Narrateur: Pour la troisième fois consécutif le championnat serait décidé par le grand prix du Japon. mais cette fois si Proust ne finissait pas, Ayrton serait champion.
Piquet: Avec la grosse erreur de l'an dernier avec Ayrton, faut-il répéter la même chose? La chose la moins dangereuse est que si vous manquez la chicane et qu'il n'y a pas de circulation, ils devraient vous laisser partir. Si vous devez faire demi-tour et reculer contre une autre voiture qui avance, c'est très dangereux.
Ron Dennis: Est-ce que tout le monde est d'accord?
OUI!
Senna: Merci beaucoup. Je ne peux pas tolérer plus. C'est une blague. Après ce qui s'est passé l'année dernière, cette situation est une blague. Ici, je n'ai rien dit, vous entendez quelqu'un mentionner le point et vous voyez que tout le monde est d'accord. L'année dernière a été terrible pour moi. Désolé mais je vais partir.
Merci beaucoup. Ayrton forever .
I feel like this was the moment when he decided to take Alan out the race. I just wanted to see Balestre in the room swallowing this whole.
Piquet doesn't get enough credit he deserves. One of the greatest F1 drivers and one of the few to win the drivers championship with a car that didn't win the constructor's.
To be fair to Ayrton Senna, he could have easily better Prost on merit, but didn't wanna risk Prost playing the long game because he could would have lost.
This was just payback to Prost for the previous year on track collision.
I often wondered why Prost retired from F1 after getting his 4th title with Williams when he could be been the first to win 5-6 titles before Schumacher dominance.
E o Prost com cara de paisagem kkk sabendo q Senna estava certo um ano antes
Bravo to Nelson. Respect for Ayrton. Shame on Prost.
1:09 I always find his reaction so fun.
“Hey Piquet, your enemy got f*!”
“He was not my enemy, you see? He was a competitor. Don't confuse things."
- Nelson Piquet and some idiot at the South American Karting Championship the day after Senna's death
Senna 4x world Champ.😂💪
How so? He got a DNF in Australia so even with a win in Japan he still would have fell short on points.
@@Francesco-dc2pqWhat do you mean friend? You don't know what you're talking about!
@@marcosneves9127 Senna finished 16 points behind Prost. He needed to win the last two races to overtake him in the standings. Even if you give him the win in Japan, he still doesn't have enough to beat Prost (76-69) because he DNFd in Australia all on his own. Simple really. Why do you think McLaren dropped the DQ appeal? Could it be because the results in Japan had no effect on the outcome of the championship?
There was a big FACK up with Ayrton last year
I would also leave the room immediately, all liars, 1 year earlier he was deprived of the title, same situation Nelson was speaking
Meu pai é meu Super Homem
Was it held 90 or 91?
This briefing scene is from 1990
Brasilian top five. 1)Nelson Piquet. 2)Emerson Fitipaldi. 3)Rubens Barrichelo 4)Ayrton Senna. 5)Massa
Don't talk sh*t
Names are right the sequence not.
All that bitching and moaning then he goes and puts his own life and Prost’s life in danger by shunting them both off the track at 130+ mph.
Funny how it’s a travesty of justice when it goes against Senna, but we don’t bat an eye to his own travesties
Prost won these battle because he's an european racer
It was an accident, Michael did worst things and never lost an Championship
In my opinion they didn't had to DQ Senna for this issue in '89 specialy when you see the reaction of the other drivers about this type of situation in this video one year later.
BUT!!
If you see the footage of the crash between Senna and Prost at Suzuka backthen in '89, you can clearly see when the marshalls pushed Senna back on track, from there he could make the first turn of the chicane! It's a shame he still choose to go straight and didn't fulfill the race distance by "cutting the chicane" and got DQ'ed for that. The should've known the rules, even how silly some may be! He was aware of "the system" that was not realy supporting him against Prost. Every time i watch that video a can't stop myself screeming: TURN RIGHT, TURN RIGHT!
Senna went thru the escape road, where you have to zig zag your way thru, as there were those plastic blocks on the escape road. That is the track if you miss the chicane, and he followed protocol.
He did the right thing in that situation in itself also he had already lost a lot of time with the crash with Prost.
The FIA did Senna dirty that race. Even Piquet a year later said that, the penalty was BS.
He didn't turn right because his engine stalled, and he needed to get it running again, he couldn't turn right
Piquet was right. He made a suggestion that completely makes sense. It doesn't matter if there was another rule in the previous year. Senna did something that was forbidden. Period. And then he reacts (as usual) as a victim.
Senna was a real drama queen 👸
O que sera que o Senna disse?
he said :
“I’m out of here because an asteroid is about to strike this goddamn room - too many idiots have gathered at the same spot talking nonsense 😡put@ padres ajajaiii !!!
💥🚪
Senna Tetra....
They robbed the 89 championship from him
No they didn't. Even with this win he threw the title away in Australia when he hit Brundle. Non issue.
Senna vs la mafia
Drastic: Piquet and Senna just hated and couldn't see each other. Then the master of cheating started to speak in defense of Ayrton Senna, you have to understand how hugely dirty what happened the year before was. Even Nelson Piquet couldn't stand that.
Senna was always a hot head, and this video shows proof of it. It's called "red mist". He was a brilliant driver but had serious flaws as a person.
Vi muitos relatos sobre como era a personalidade de Senna. Mesmo com sua última namorada, ele era uma pessoa difícil de lidar. Eu vi um trecho do livro da Galisteu (última namorada) que o Senna foi grosseiro com ela, porque ela fez um ensaio fotográfico para uma revista brasileira, onde ela saiu na capa. Senna provavelmente era uma pessoa de ego muito alto, muito competitivo e que não aceitava perder. Típico de ariano (namorei um e foi um dos piores relacionamentos). Meu ex de Áries tinha o mesmo traço de personalidade. Ele era agressivo, não aceitava perder, discutia com facilidade
@@mariana_greenday1039Ariano kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Well, Senna F1 champion 4 times, not 3
Garfar título alheio causa mau estar,senhor francês
Senna DSQ at Japan 89 was OK but the thing is they DSQ Senna for the wrong reason. Japanese trackside marshals clearly gave Senna a pushstart all the way Senna's engine stalled. Back in the day the regulation said you can push a car at a dangerous position in terms to put the car outside the track like japanese marshals did with Prost's McLaren. It wasn't the same thing what Senna did asking those marshals to give him a pushstart to rejoin the race. Japanese marshals never pushed Senna's McLaren to the grass outside the track like they did with Prost's McLaren. Everybody knows Senna was like a God in Japan back in those days. Off course japanese marshals were helping Senna and not helping Prost. So Senna was pushstarted. They DSQ Senna for the wrong reason but nevertheless Senna deserved to be DSQ. End of story. Period.
Si Senna hubiera estado con vida, Comas y Senna hubieran formado un gran equipo y seguir ganando juntos, no como Alain Prost.
At least Prost and Balastre shared a good night sleep together. I see them spooning in love❤️
Dói na alma dos Sennistas ter que admitir que 1989 estava perdido mesmo antes da batida no Japão.
Ele bateu na Austrália sendo que precisava ganhar.
Mesmo que tivessem conseguido contornar a desclassificação do Japão, o campeonato era do Prost de qualquer forma.
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Não fale bobagem. A corrida da Austrália foi depois da do Japão
Já ouviu falar em "efeito borboleta"?
Já, e pelo visto você não. O efeito borboleta é justamente sobre uma mudança alterando todos os acontecimentos futuros. Talvez com a vitória em Suzuka ele não teria batido em Adelaide
@@Artimao
Talvez não existe.
O que existe é o que realmente aconteceu.
Senna bateu em Adelaide e suas chances de reverter qualquer coisa nos tribunais acabaram.
76 a 60 pro Prost antes do Japão, Senna precisava de um milagre para vencer esse campeonato que ele não merecia vencer pra começar, pois foi incompetente durante várias corridas daquele ano.
Não existe bicho, papão nem conspiração francesa, ele sabia que cortar a chicane era proibido e receber auxílio externo para ligar o carro também.
No mais, seguem os 34 anos de choro.
Senna mais uma vez sendo garfado na f1.
Senna morreu com ressentido! Isso não é bom. O Prost totalmente desconcertado.
very harsh, almost bullying :/ the way they all voted against him here.. very bad. Just goes to show even all those as a collective could not stop him! RIP legend!
They did bully him. Terribly.
Same response to Bridget Cox's post..unless im understanding your posts wrong.. they didn't bully against him. Nelson Piquet says they F*cked up the previous year with the terrible ruling they gave Senna. Then Ron Dennis asks everyone if they agree...which they do. So all the drivers were behind and supported Senna in this video. Senna got upset because the FIA bosses were idiots. Senna the Legend!!!
Yep, this is correct. Nelson made the point that Senna (and Dennis) made the previous season and the other drivers backed him up. Senna was upset at the way the FIA handled the previous season. He was upset in this video because all the drivers backed up the position he had argued the previous year.
yep..they voted FOR him..piquet(who didnt like senna and said he was gay,many times) quoted the fia's ruling the previous year to disqualify senna...aytron got shafted by balestre and ALL knew it...this briefing is also at suzuka...we know how the race went lol
what i will add,is senna probably regretted his actions here...he could get emotional very easily...he's been knwn to cry to at times over racing issues..he got robbed in 89 and it fucked his head up totally....he was obsessed with winning,he.d do things other drivers wouldnt and couldnt..and as for pure speed is the GOAT ..pole position master...and i miss him tbh..thankyou senna..RIP
There's TWO kinds of champions :
Champions like Vatanen, Gilles villeneuve ...
and there's winners like Rhorl, Schumacher, Senna, Prost...
The difference is the "let's do the math"
Ari Vatanen's car control was awesome.
Cry baby?
Prost would make a great spoiled rich kid in an 80s action movie.
He's just so hateable
Senna was such a drama queen
Piquet was considered Sennas Anti-Christ...The devil personified
Juan Rios Piquet senpre foi um invejoso .
Nah you guys didn't understand the video. Piquet argued in favor of Senna actually, saying what happened in the previous year was wrong (dangerous) and the rules should change, and everybody agreed. Senna's rage is against the directors, like saying "See? Everybody agrees that what screwed me last year is a bullshit rule". He and Ron Dennis made the same point the year before but it was not accepted then. That said, Piquet indeed was not very friendly with Ayrton usually.
He was just a joke you silly 😂😂😂
@@alexvieira967 Ele defendou o Senna nesse vídeo. Você é só é mais um frustrado perdedor.
Piquet backed Senna's action from the previous year here before the 90 race to avoid the same situation again. Everybody agreed with him and Senna got mad due the oriny in the situation.