When you use any acid product, you need to soak the part in a baking soda and water mix after the rust is removed to neutralize any acid left in microscopic pores in the metal.
First time viewer. Wow! How helpful! I’m a 70 yr old girl who loves rescuing junk, to create something beautiful! This was SO helpful!! Thank you! I’m so old, my pop taught me to clean my chrome bicycle wheels with naval jelly. God Bless! 😊
I have used regular vinegar many times..I let it sit 2 days, rince out, wash off the black remnants, and soak it 1 to 2 days more. It isn't as fast but works great. I heat the metal after washing and put oil on it right away. The items are pron to re-rust without putting oil. Most all of my "tools" have been purchased at yard sale. I will offer $2 or $5 for the entire box of rusted tools. What a bargain for a little homemaker who doesn't want to spend hundreds of dollars on tools I rarely use.💪😉
It's been 3 weeks since this video. How did your clipper come out? I know you spent a lot of money doing this, so thank you so much for this great information
I use a cup of citric acid in a gallon of water to soak my cast iron grill gates followed by wire brushing with my angle grinder. Then i season the grates with grape seed oil in the oven two times at 300 degrees. It works very well.
This video was extremely helpful and I can’t wait to try two of the methods. But, you said that in the next video you were going to use the one you thought was best on those rusted garden scissors. There’s been seven videos since this one, don’t leave us hanging!🙂
Best rust remover i found & used on old cast iron is MILLER LITE Beer .. lol yup thats a true story.... put cast iron or whatever in anything that will let you COVER it in the beer - come back in about 4-5 days and its done! no need to set it in the sun or nothing. Just leave it- that is the best rust remover & best use ive found for MILLER LITE Beer😂 and i used to drink that crap😮
Interesting video. I've always used the CLR for light duty rust removal. Brush cleaning was always a part of that. The Muriatic Acid you used is extremely strong. I use that for cleaning & bleaching concrete. Your Bonsai scissors look so rusted that I would expect much of the metal to be in the form of rust and will leave a useless tool once you clean it. I will be waiting for your follow up video to see if that's correct. One thought I had as I watched the entire video is: "wouldn't the cost and labor of most of your treatments make a replacement of the rusted part a better option"??
The issue your not taking into consideration is the High level Acids like 75% vinegar and Muriatic acid or really Hydrochloric acid not only removes rust but the good metal too. where as Evaporust, WD40, Rust Dissolver and other products will remove the rust & not damage the base metals. If you want fast and complete use 90% vinegar & electrolysis in a well vented area. Lol Nice test, good video.
Good practical test. Something to watch for however - Hydrogen Embrittlement. Especially with all the test spring models. Once your visual test is complete, the next phase begins. Namely how strong or resistant to breakage remains in the springs. As a plumber who would insert an 11/16” diameter cable into a 2” pipe apartment tenants would not always be forthright with me as to what they had put in the line. I would find out later when my 11/16” cable would snap in two.
Acid cleans well, but always leaves a rust-producing residue. Even when rinsing or washing-off with an Alkali solution to neutralize the Acid, an Acid residue always seems to accelerate rust into perpetuity. Am always looking for non-Acidic rust-removers for that reason.
@@colleenpritchett6914 - Perhaps you didn't read the original-post? It specifically discusses how baking soda and water (an alkali solution) doesn't work. Thanks for playing.
@@pennyantonson3881 - Evapo-Rust, WD-40 rust, Corroseal rust converter, Blaster Metal Rescue, Rust 911. Not recommending one over another, but these are some that are not acid-based. They take longer, but don't re-rust as quickly as acid. Magnesium paint helps reduce re-rust afterward.
I've tried diluted molasses, like for horse or deer feed from TSC, videos on cleaning rims, many years ago. Non-toxic, but caution! raccoons might find in shed and spill gal jug, sticky clean up.
Any experience with removing rust from inside of a Coleman gas lantern? I have tried the ACV, with some success, but I am wondering if the increased acidity level will harm the brass valve? Thanks
But of course there is rust removal with the means of electrolysis as well! When I was young , as a field trip, I got to tour a electro chemical tooling plant for the electro machining process for tooling of various parts, made out of iron/ steel and alike! Now I founded that to be very fascinating without a doubt in my mind! Also when I was a kid, I was into engine building and vehicle repair and so if it required of me to send a completely stripped down engine block out to a shop that had a huge vat or none other than a huge holding tank to have the block lowered into this acid'/ water mix, or none other than a hot tank, the acid solution or caustic soda/ water mix that was used, I have no real definitive way of telling you just what that was, BUT I suspect that either the engine block was sprayed down with a higher strength of oven type cleaner, at least 2-3 times to dissolved baked on oil/grease, paint and rust first and long before that engine block was lowered into the so called hot tank that had a propane fired burner that would get that hot water up to oh say at least 180 degrees or even higher. That holding tank most likely had a circulation pump for that water of at least some means to aid the ridding of the particulates that flaked off and filter out the garbage also by some means and so the block was to remain in that holding tank for I think that of 2-3 hours before it was to be extracted, and thus a highly pressurized steam jenny hot water to finish blasting the rest of debris and junk off, while the temperature of that steam jenny was perhaps in excess of 212 degrees to make that block clean as slick as a whistle to eat off of! There may have actually been a grand total of a 3-4 step process to complete this undertaking and so I also suspect that a foaming type oven cleaner was used as for the first step and allowed to just set on the block's surface for I want to say up to 3 hours first! Followed by the initial blasting of a steam jenny thereafter! Secondly, applying a muriatic acid OR muriatic gel like coating but then to allow it to work for a period of time but then going ahead and lower it into the holding tank for the next 2-3 hours and just calmly let it set there. Thirdly, the block would be hoisted up out of that hot tank and thusly be blasted once again to rid the contaminants off of all surfaces. Fourthly compressed air would be used to blow out every little valley and crevasses to get out any remaining slight bit of anything that should remain, while that engine block was good and hot! Upon the quick drying of that block exterior and for the inside out, it should be coated with a special coating of light machining type of oil on all surfaces throughout to prevent the potential of rust flashing to occur!!! So there you have it! This series of said processes was done outside of a shop and while most likely having a shelter cover overhead which I would deem as the way that it would be done! Back in 1973, it had costed I believe was a 100 clams. The block had to be sent to them and also be picked back up when finished. By today's standards, the process might be modified, while the cost today might also be phenomenal, at best! I would believe that most engine machine shop's have this type of setup, by and far. Well now to be honest, of those said products lineup to start with, half if not more than half of them could have been eliminated right from the get-go and I must say; this impromptu endeavor is not only highly expensive, but an entirely wasteful way to burn money!!! After over nearly 3 years of the occasional viewing of YT videos based on several tests that other creators have already performed, there are some grand conclusions by far that indicate just how to really go about it while there may be perhaps a couple 3-4 methods still left in the mixed bag of trials and tribulations of ridding rust altogether!
@@gottaspeakout4272 As for what I outlined as to some of the older methods done and in retrospect of the chemicals that were used that in turn still works even today, provided that it is done properly, safely and inexpensively, just might save some headaches along the way. For some people, they may not have a clue how to even start or go about such things! The actual target of my contributing said information was actually deemed for @Zen Garden Oasis to have his eyes on to begin with, just so that it could give him more food for thought and maybe even come up with a more better suited strategy when it comes down to a perhaps a follow up video that just nails it out of the park! There are already proven strategies that other YT contributors have tried thus far and most of them portray the "old tried and true" methods and if you don't do your due diligence to research the subject matter, though on your own and yet you yourself decide that I am a critic for no valid reason, well then the hell with you! The whole real reason of being able to do such a thing is to do this sort of thing efficiently, effectively and for the least amount of money possible! Not only that but I am not here in this comment section to play mental gymnastics with you just because you don't like what I posted! Well then, if you are butt hurt by what I contributed earlier, well then get over it and move on! Experience is supposed to be your best teacher and in most cases speaks volumes about what you can do, what you should not do and what are some of the alternatives that fits the purpose, your valued time and on budget!
QUESTION. I have a pair of scissors like your, not as rusty, but fighting rust on them is a battle. Can i put something on them that will prevent rust from forming.
Exactly. Great video, but the labelling of the concentrated acetic acid bottle as "75% Vinegar" was done by somebody who is not literate in basic chemistry
That's too funny, you just did a myth buster type video! I don't know about the USA but here in Canada we al ways said Coca-Cola would take rust off the car as it was sooooooooo strong! Well I guess not!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, to be sure, phosphoric acid is very effective especially on car and truck frames as I a m told and seems to be the least mess and fuss IF you make up the right strength and apply it in the manner in which it is to be used, but do not rush things AND also prep your surfaces such as NOT to strip down the rust to full on bare metal!! These are the two key things to be highly focused upon! Once you do it right the first time, things will be much in your favor and you will be able to epoxy paint coat that surface and having it looking like a good but sassy looking paint job but not entirely looking like brand spanking new!!
Oh yeah, such the magnifying but delirious effects that are hitting the fan like it is really going out of control! Also the huge bumper crops of pure lies that are purportrated on a daily basis, yet in comparison of many years back, it is way more worse now! My question has been all along is: Why is it that it is okay to lie during a major political voting cycle and actually get away with all of it and not be accountable for those lies, thus targeting the American People, coupled with all of these migrants here tearing up the place and committing massive crime waves throughout the nation!
What a waste of time video. No conclusion and no follow up on after 3 weeks on your prized scissors. Really annoyed how you think it’s okay 😡 to publish videos which is of no practical use apart from wasting peoples time.
When you use any acid product, you need to soak the part in a baking soda and water mix after the rust is removed to neutralize any acid left in microscopic pores in the metal.
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Thank you for that information!
First time viewer. Wow! How helpful! I’m a 70 yr old girl who loves rescuing junk, to create something beautiful! This was SO helpful!! Thank you! I’m so old, my pop taught me to clean my chrome bicycle wheels with naval jelly. God Bless! 😊
I love naval jelly.
I have used regular vinegar many times..I let it sit 2 days, rince out, wash off the black remnants, and soak it 1 to 2 days more. It isn't as fast but works great. I heat the metal after washing and put oil on it right away. The items are pron to re-rust without putting oil. Most all of my "tools" have been purchased at yard sale. I will offer $2 or $5 for the entire box of rusted tools. What a bargain for a little homemaker who doesn't want to spend hundreds of dollars on tools I rarely use.💪😉
What oil do you use?
I thought this video would be boring but I watched anyway because I have a rust problem. Surprise! This was quite interesting.
It's been 3 weeks since this video. How did your clipper come out?
I know you spent a lot of money doing this, so thank you so much for this great information
Has anyone been able to find the update on the bonsai shears?
Awesome demo buddy. It's got to be the best and most informative I've ever seen on here.
Thank you ! You spent a lot of money and saved me a lot of money 😊
Glad I could help!
I use a cup of citric acid in a gallon of water to soak my cast iron grill gates followed by wire brushing with my angle grinder. Then i season the grates with grape seed oil in the oven two times at 300 degrees. It works very well.
Thank you. I use vinegar for so many things, cheap and environmentally friendly
I'm really surprised about the orange juice and the 75% vinegar was a nice surprise to know about. Good to see CLR and some others also work well.
Thank you so much for this! Looking forward to seeing your scissors restored!
Thanks for the great video. Please post those follow up results from the ones you let soak longer.
This video was extremely helpful and I can’t wait to try two of the methods. But, you said that in the next video you were going to use the one you thought was best on those rusted garden scissors. There’s been seven videos since this one, don’t leave us hanging!🙂
Best rust remover i found & used on old cast iron is MILLER LITE Beer .. lol yup thats a true story.... put cast iron or whatever in anything that will let you COVER it in the beer - come back in about 4-5 days and its done! no need to set it in the sun or nothing. Just leave it- that is the best rust remover & best use ive found for MILLER LITE Beer😂 and i used to drink that crap😮
Pretty good but the best is phosphoric acid which can be purchased as Ospho at any hardware store.
Interesting video. I've always used the CLR for light duty rust removal. Brush cleaning was always a part of that. The Muriatic Acid you used is extremely strong. I use that for cleaning & bleaching concrete. Your Bonsai scissors look so rusted that I would expect much of the metal to be in the form of rust and will leave a useless tool once you clean it. I will be waiting for your follow up video to see if that's correct. One thought I had as I watched the entire video is: "wouldn't the cost and labor of most of your treatments make a replacement of the rusted part a better option"??
This was a great video. Honest and practical. Thank you
Good video but would have liked to see the prices for each product as comparison. thanks good job.
The issue your not taking into consideration is the High level Acids like 75% vinegar and Muriatic acid or really Hydrochloric acid not only removes rust but the good metal too. where as Evaporust, WD40, Rust Dissolver and other products will remove the rust & not damage the base metals. If you want fast and complete use 90% vinegar & electrolysis in a well vented area. Lol Nice test, good video.
I use Rustout. It works!
The only answer for me is Evapo-Rust. It has never let me down and you can reuse it for a long time.
Thanks!......What would you say is the best bang for the buck?
I’m planning on restoring the bonsai shears in either 75% vinegar or the muratuc acid. I think the lemon juice is cheapest.
I use toilet bowl cleaner which most use a concentration of muratic acid, works very well
Thank you. I really appreciate this video.
How do you dispose of muriatic acid?
Excellent video ! Very informative!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! Beautiful green house😊
I accidently left our Cutco scissors out in the garden over the winter. No rust, good as new!
Ketchup works GREAT on Copper😁👍🔎🔍
I'm looking forward to seeing if you can restore those scissors.
Good practical test. Something to watch for however - Hydrogen Embrittlement. Especially with all the test spring models. Once your visual test is complete, the next phase begins. Namely how strong or resistant to breakage remains in the springs. As a plumber who would insert an 11/16” diameter cable into a 2” pipe apartment tenants would not always be forthright with me as to what they had put in the line. I would find out later when my 11/16” cable would snap in two.
Acid cleans well, but always leaves a rust-producing residue. Even when rinsing or washing-off with an Alkali solution to neutralize the Acid, an Acid residue always seems to accelerate rust into perpetuity. Am always looking for non-Acidic rust-removers for that reason.
Use baking soda and water after
@@colleenpritchett6914 - Perhaps you didn't read the original-post? It specifically discusses how baking soda and water (an alkali solution) doesn't work. Thanks for playing.
@ thanks didn’t see it
Like what?
@@pennyantonson3881 - Evapo-Rust, WD-40 rust, Corroseal rust converter, Blaster Metal Rescue, Rust 911. Not recommending one over another, but these are some that are not acid-based. They take longer, but don't re-rust as quickly as acid. Magnesium paint helps reduce re-rust afterward.
Wow, you sure have a lot of rusty springs!
😂
I've tried diluted molasses, like for horse or deer feed from TSC, videos on cleaning rims, many years ago. Non-toxic, but caution! raccoons might find in shed and spill gal jug, sticky clean up.
Thanks for sharing
Very interesting. Thank you.
Any experience with removing rust from inside of a Coleman gas lantern? I have tried the ACV, with some success, but I am wondering if the increased acidity level will harm the brass valve? Thanks
Excellent video! Thank you.
Have you tried naval jelly? I’ve used it on tools.
great channel
I grew up with naval jelly
@geoffb108 😂made my day
But of course there is rust removal with the means of electrolysis as well! When I was young , as a field trip, I got to
tour a electro chemical tooling plant for the electro machining process for tooling of various parts, made out of iron/
steel and alike! Now I founded that to be very fascinating without a doubt in my mind! Also when I was a kid, I was
into engine building and vehicle repair and so if it required of me to send a completely stripped down engine block
out to a shop that had a huge vat or none other than a huge holding tank to have the block lowered into this acid'/
water mix, or none other than a hot tank, the acid solution or caustic soda/ water mix that was used, I have no
real definitive way of telling you just what that was, BUT I suspect that either the engine block was sprayed down
with a higher strength of oven type cleaner, at least 2-3 times to dissolved baked on oil/grease, paint and rust first
and long before that engine block was lowered into the so called hot tank that had a propane fired burner that would
get that hot water up to oh say at least 180 degrees or even higher. That holding tank most likely had a circulation
pump for that water of at least some means to aid the ridding of the particulates that flaked off and filter out the
garbage also by some means and so the block was to remain in that holding tank for I think that of 2-3 hours before
it was to be extracted, and thus a highly pressurized steam jenny hot water to finish blasting the rest of debris and
junk off, while the temperature of that steam jenny was perhaps in excess of 212 degrees to make that block clean
as slick as a whistle to eat off of! There may have actually been a grand total of a 3-4 step process to complete this
undertaking and so I also suspect that a foaming type oven cleaner was used as for the first step and allowed to
just set on the block's surface for I want to say up to 3 hours first! Followed by the initial blasting of a steam jenny
thereafter! Secondly, applying a muriatic acid OR muriatic gel like coating but then to allow it to work for a period of
time but then going ahead and lower it into the holding tank for the next 2-3 hours and just calmly let it set there.
Thirdly, the block would be hoisted up out of that hot tank and thusly be blasted once again to rid the contaminants
off of all surfaces. Fourthly compressed air would be used to blow out every little valley and crevasses to get out any
remaining slight bit of anything that should remain, while that engine block was good and hot! Upon the quick drying
of that block exterior and for the inside out, it should be coated with a special coating of light machining type of oil
on all surfaces throughout to prevent the potential of rust flashing to occur!!! So there you have it! This series of said
processes was done outside of a shop and while most likely having a shelter cover overhead which I would deem as
the way that it would be done! Back in 1973, it had costed I believe was a 100 clams. The block had to be sent to them
and also be picked back up when finished. By today's standards, the process might be modified, while the cost today
might also be phenomenal, at best! I would believe that most engine machine shop's have this type of setup, by and far.
Well now to be honest, of those said products lineup to start with, half if not more than half of them could have been
eliminated right from the get-go and I must say; this impromptu endeavor is not only highly expensive, but an entirely
wasteful way to burn money!!! After over nearly 3 years of the occasional viewing of YT videos based on several tests
that other creators have already performed, there are some grand conclusions by far that indicate just how to really go
about it while there may be perhaps a couple 3-4 methods still left in the mixed bag of trials and tribulations of ridding
rust altogether!
Seriously? What is your point? Who cares how you clean an engine block, this is about what can be done at home.
@@gottaspeakout4272 As for what I outlined as to some of the older methods done and in retrospect
of the chemicals that were used that in turn still works even today, provided that it is done properly,
safely and inexpensively, just might save some headaches along the way. For some people, they may
not have a clue how to even start or go about such things! The actual target of my contributing said
information was actually deemed for @Zen Garden Oasis to have his eyes on to begin with, just so that
it could give him more food for thought and maybe even come up with a more better suited strategy
when it comes down to a perhaps a follow up video that just nails it out of the park! There are already
proven strategies that other YT contributors have tried thus far and most of them portray the "old tried
and true" methods and if you don't do your due diligence to research the subject matter, though on your
own and yet you yourself decide that I am a critic for no valid reason, well then the hell with you! The
whole real reason of being able to do such a thing is to do this sort of thing efficiently, effectively and
for the least amount of money possible! Not only that but I am not here in this comment section to play
mental gymnastics with you just because you don't like what I posted! Well then, if you are butt hurt by
what I contributed earlier, well then get over it and move on! Experience is supposed to be your best
teacher and in most cases speaks volumes about what you can do, what you should not do and what
are some of the alternatives that fits the purpose, your valued time and on budget!
great video
Citric acid and baking soda. It’s the best for me.
I totally agree. Bckyard Ballistics published a superb formula on their channel.
I haven't seen any shorts on the remover progress or the shear rust removal project. Just curious. 🤔
It’s on patreon.
Thank you for sharing! 👍
Thanks for watching!
How did you dispose of all the acidic products post experiment?
QUESTION. I have a pair of scissors like your, not as rusty, but fighting rust on them is a battle. Can i put something on them that will prevent rust from forming.
I use a thin "dry oil" lile clipper oil. Wipe it into the metal and remove excess. Similar to how people season cast iron cooking vessels.
Oil? Just a guess. Any oil - vegetable or motor - should keep the air out and the rust at bay.
Cover it with Texas Pete in a ziplock bag, if its a small item. Let it sit couple of days, be shiny like new.
Don't understand why you didn't try Naval Jelly?
where did you find 75% vinegar?
Check the link in the description…purchased online a while back for other proj3cts and experiments. Cheers
Walmart also has it in a different section from regular vinegar
Home Depot
Very interesting. Thank you.
if you have a swimming pool and keep muriatic acid anyway, its the best way...just make sure to rise and oil the piece right away.
So you didn't do a complete comparison, especially final assignment 🤔 price, ease, effectiveness which was better in your opinion and why.😅
Distilled water would be a good control. And phosphoric acid (that Coke has some in it) non diluted = clean in minutes...
75% vinegar is a misnomer... it is 75% acetic acid... vinegar is 3-6% acetic acid diluted by water (normally).
Exactly. Great video, but the labelling of the concentrated acetic acid bottle as "75% Vinegar" was done by somebody who is not literate in basic chemistry
Best homemade rust remover:
1 Liter of Water
100 grams citric acid crystals
63 grams of Baking Soda
Dash of dish detergent
That's too funny, you just did a myth buster type video! I don't know about the USA but here in Canada we al ways said Coca-Cola would take rust off the car as it was sooooooooo strong! Well I guess not!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What about trying hot sauce?
Vinegar and ketchup is cheap, safe and effective. Or vinegar alone. Make your own with pineapple peels, free. Take care.
Where is the 24 hour results? Did you get your bonsai scissors clean?
Still in the planning stage. 😔
Salt and vinegar works
I didn’t see phosphoric acid that is used in auto rust removal
Yes, to be sure, phosphoric acid is very effective especially on car and truck frames as I a m told and
seems to be the least mess and fuss IF you make up the right strength and apply it in the manner in
which it is to be used, but do not rush things AND also prep your surfaces such as NOT to strip down
the rust to full on bare metal!! These are the two key things to be highly focused upon! Once you do it
right the first time, things will be much in your favor and you will be able to epoxy paint coat that surface
and having it looking like a good but sassy looking paint job but not entirely looking like brand spanking
new!!
Its all i use@craigtegeler4677
Lol. "You have to have thick skin to go through the comment section." 😂
Hahaha! The reason you’re not wearing gloves you said is because you have to have thick skin to be a RUclips creator! 🤣
Hi there 😊
Hello 😊
Safety is no joking matter. Wear gloves and goggles when handling products such as these, and respirators when needed.
huh what if you used 5 % vinegar and baking soda. instant volcano material
Sounds fun…..don’t forget the red food coloring. 😂
@@ZenGardenOasis.and a small squirt of dish soap.
Try hot sauce
damn i drink hella OJ
Good to see Coke and Pepsi didn't do the job.
Sonobowl toilet bowl cleaner with a little water in Agee hours…
2 weeks in molasses bath
Anyone else tired of the brainwashed/braindead country destroying union political commercials yet?
Oh yeah, such the magnifying but delirious effects that are hitting the fan like it is really going out of control!
Also the huge bumper crops of pure lies that are purportrated on a daily basis, yet in comparison of many
years back, it is way more worse now! My question has been all along is: Why is it that it is okay to lie during
a major political voting cycle and actually get away with all of it and not be accountable for those lies, thus
targeting the American People, coupled with all of these migrants here tearing up the place and committing
massive crime waves throughout the nation!
What a waste of time video. No conclusion and no follow up on after 3 weeks on your prized scissors. Really annoyed how you think it’s okay 😡 to publish videos which is of no practical use apart from wasting peoples time.