@@crimsonmoonrise9785 I really think he's Billy. Emerald Warlock *could* make sense given the witches road, but he's Irish and they have Joe talking with an American accent.
@@nicholasfactorLmao we hella gottem, but ye, I only said this cuz lowkey the moment I finished watching the Minecraft trailer and I got a notif for this I was like "yknow whatd be hella funny?"
Erik's personal "He who shall not be named" could be name-dropped in AAA, but not make an actual appearance until a later title (such as Ghost Rider or Midnight Suns).
I mean the upside is you are not entirely wrong. Wanda’s kids are a creation of Mephisto, so technically he is like right there, just has yet to be introduced fully.🤝🏻💖
No, He's Damon Helstrum / Hellstorm. The actor said that his costume reveals it all. . He has a pentacle sewn into the chest of his sweater... and some fans have even suggested that hes mephistos son..but always the devil's son or at least a demons son.
2:16 I definitely respect that NRS is not running away from this lol. I rewatched WV and in all honesty it really felt like it was setting something up like that
I'm really starting to believe that "Teen" is really is Billy Kaplan and these are the reasons why; 1. Billy Kaplan is a reincarnation of the one the sons of Scarlet Witch and her husband Vision as in the comics Billy reincarnated from William Maximoff. Significant storylines for the character include his and his brother's search for their original mother, and I believe that will actually be part of the storyline of this series. 2. In the comics, Billy is known for being a prominent gay character in the Marvel Comics. Joe Locke, the actor is openly gay and fits the character perfectly. I, for one believe that the series will further establish that there's also Thomas Shepherd (Speed) and both him and Billy are identical but born into different families. The main reason Billy wanted Agatha's help is because he is looking for his real mother who is probably held captive by Mephisto. That's pretty much the reason why he'd even free Agatha from Wanda's spell. Also, check out 00:29, the colors the boy is wearing match Wiccan's in the comics including the headband.
The symbol is in the bottom right of the Tarot cards which is a common place for artist's signature. If the symbol does represent someone they created that deck.
There’s also stars on the side of his pants that you can see in the D23 photos. Also matching a certain costume… The fact that anyone thinks he’s not Billy at this point is boggling to me lol.
honestly i wouldnt mind if the teen is somehow Mephisto. Idk how he acts really in the comics. but having the devil of the MCU be sorta flamboyant like HIM in Powerpuff Girls would be fun i think
@@BrottenGuy the actor for mephisto is confirmed Sacha Baron Cohen (it wasnt for this it was iron heart he was confirmed in but could have shifted or announced in this before appearance in that) If anyone thinks he's not gonna over-act or be "theatrical" just a bit is delusional tho lmao I think those words are better than flamboyant for sure. Even in the comics he was a bit "theatrical"
If the details really are in the costumes, and his witches road outfit is his favorite, then he HAS to be Billy. When that outfit was on display at D23, the sides of the pants were stitched with stars, a lot like how Wiccan's suit has a star pattern on the sides.
Teen is Billy. The sigil over his mouth, be it either a W or M, is for Wanda Maximoff. The early episodes hint towards Teen being Agatha's baby as a red herring, to distract from the fact that Teen wants to walk the Witches Road to resurrect his ACTUAL mother, Wanda.
Has anyone considered that Joe Locke's character could be Agatha Harkness' son Nicholas Scratch since there is involvement with Salem's Seven. Or it could be Wiccan possessed by Chthon, an ancient demon affiliated with Wanda's history.
I’ve been having this gut feeling that the Billy stuff is an intentional misdirect and that Teen’s actually Nick Scratch ever since I first saw him 😭 Idk what to believe at this point, but Salem Seven makes me further believe this theory
@@surendraniyer8992 correct in the Avengers comic books Wanda was possessed directly. However, when has the Marvel Cinematic Universe followed the comics directly.
"For Real" was the reason I tapped... Jokes apart, Anytime you think of Mephisto, I'm with you... Been with you on the Mephisto train since the time you started mentioning him being the possibility of him being in the MCU!
Watching this video I realized that the Teen does look like a younger Sasha, and then you brought it up. I think you might be right that that is a big clue to his identity
I’m hoping Teen isn’t Billy. First, he doesn’t look like the previous actor at all. If the kids come back I’d like them to come back as the same actors. 2nd, it’s waaaay too obvious for it to be Billy. They are hiding it for a reason. I’m hoping it’s just Mephisto or some other evil entity just trying to manipulate Agatha.
It would be both hilarious and infuriating if the teen's identity goes unexplained until the last episode and he's just Ralph Boner's son looking for his bong or something.
I think he's Billy, but, like the comics, he originated as a part of Mephisto. A part that he maybe wants back and Agatha ultimately has to protect him long enough to become a real and separate boy.
i don’t think Teen is Mephisto, but rather Mephisto did the mouth thing (looks very much like a capital M) to conceal Billy/Wiccan’s identity from Agatha, since he would be connected to Wanda as well as Mephisto. (also “Billy Kaplan” is 4 syllables) Teen/Billy/Wiccan is just being used as a pawn in Mephisto’s larger game.
Marvel could be setting up Mephisto as a multi-phase Thanos level villian that is working behind the scenes. There could be a scene in the Ryan Gosling Ghost Rider movie revealing all the ways Mephisto influenced the MCU.
I thought about the kid being a younger version of Sacha Baron Cohen as well. However, if Teen is supposed to be Mephisto, his behavior says otherwise. There are scenes where he looks afraid and uncertain. Yes, Mephisto is a deceiver, but he's in scenes where he's alone, there's no one to deceive and he still looks apprehensive and uncertain. It might make sense if Mephisto is trapped inside Teen and traveling The Witches Road is a necessary journey for him to return to his former glory. That would lead to the question of who trapped him. Was it Agatha?
The "Teen" actor has a striking resemblance to Sacha Baron Cohen (I remember his name being thrown around for the role of Mephisto). Not to mention the handwritten M over his mouth 👀
Mephisto doesn’t need anyone to be a conduit for his presence and power so that he can take power. He’s mephisto, not another witch. But hey, love the theories. Please keep them coming
The reason why they didn’t tell us more about the Tarot cards is because of the Major Arcana card, XV (15) The Devil. The card created for the production likely has huge Mephisto vibes. I’m pretty sure that the “teen” character is Billy Kaplan/Wiccan.
Well if the answers to each character is in what they are wearing then the Teen is wearing a sweater with several torn or dropped stitches so “Old Stitch “ or “Old Scratch” which are terms used for the devil so…😂😂
WandaVision would have been better with Mephisto revealed. They did make a bunch of devil hints and references. I hope he is eventually revealed to be behind the last few years, with a smash cut of all the devil references they've been making.
10:57 Anyone else think this looks like Agatha is trying to extract something from a tormented ‘teen’s mind? His lack of resistance maybe indicating that he isn’t the person who put that something in there?
“Ladies and Gentlemen. We got him.” - Kevin Feige
😅 everyone needs like this
😂😂😂😂😂
Nicholas Scratch
Lmao
Aah, shit. Here we go again
Forever
I'm tired, boss.😭😭
Read the comics and you'll know he's been around.....
@@Sahil.Thomaswell that’s too damn baaaad 🤣
@@Sahil.Thomas just keep swimming 🐟 🎶
he relapsed 💀
Lmfaoooo 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This dude just needs views
Hahahahahahhaa
Was to be expected.
“You could not live with your own failure, where did that bring you? Back to me” 🤣
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Memphisto. He's like Mephisto, but he's from Memphis.
So he’s from somewhere worst than hell?
Hes Wanda son,billy
Idkmephisto
*Hellphisto, he’s like Mephisto but he’s from a place worse than hell
@@00pium_kingvampstan Morbhisto, he’s like Mephisto but he’s Jared Leto
This is when RUclips needs to allow GIFs on RUclips chats.
This is what I have been saying it would make thinks so much fun over here
No.
this is youtube not a social media
@@officerspooder same thing it's all social media
@@officerspooderRUclips is social media
I have 100% thought too much about this. I hope 'teen' is actually Billy traveling the witches road to ressurect his mom. 🤞
Me too and I'm not going to lie I'm going to be highly disappointed if it's not
I thought about this too, but i think the timeskip wouldn’t make sense xD
@@roanoord6436what time skip?
@@execuwutie_YT like, i know theyre different entities, but from the little billy maximoff to this teen, in year or two
Are u sure that it's only a yr or 2 into the future from Wandavision
For real this time; we think😂😅
It’s happening! (maybe)
My god if "Teen" ends up being Mephisto, I think we all need to go on an apology tour for Erik 🤣
Yes
No,he's clearly the Emerald Warlock.
No,he's clearly the Emerald Warlock.
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 I really think he's Billy. Emerald Warlock *could* make sense given the witches road, but he's Irish and they have Joe talking with an American accent.
@@crimsonmoonrise9785I think Rio Vidal is meant to be a stand in for the Emerald Warlock
Mephisto comfirmed in the Minecraft movie is insane 🤣
When does he say THAT😂😂
@@kennyhilgendorf9921 At like 13:20 lmao, he made a joke about it
@@circuitbreaker_644the video is 12:53 long??
@@oliviafrancis-g7y that was the joke, genius
@@nicholasfactorLmao we hella gottem, but ye, I only said this cuz lowkey the moment I finished watching the Minecraft trailer and I got a notif for this I was like "yknow whatd be hella funny?"
They're going to troll all the Mephisto conspiracy theorists and make the villain Chthon.
Or nightmare
Chthon was already name dropped by Wong in MoM.
Yeah let's make our franchise worse to swerve theorycrafters that figured out the obvious. Worked for GoT right
I can kinda hear one of the characters just saying as they walk into one of the houses in the witches road “well what did you expect, mephisto” 😂😂
"FOR REAL this time" 😂
Erik's personal "He who shall not be named" could be name-dropped in AAA, but not make an actual appearance until a later title (such as Ghost Rider or Midnight Suns).
Or IronHeart as speculated.
I mean the upside is you are not entirely wrong. Wanda’s kids are a creation of Mephisto, so technically he is like right there, just has yet to be introduced fully.🤝🏻💖
I just realized, “I’m your son” is 3 syllables 😮
The shot of Teen in the 80's scene where he wears a red/white baseball tee with a blue sweatband confirms he is Wiccan/Billy Kaplan for me
who lives rent-free in erik's head? it's been mephisto all along
No, He's Damon Helstrum / Hellstorm. The actor said that his costume reveals it all. . He has a pentacle sewn into the chest of his sweater... and some fans have even suggested that hes mephistos son..but always the devil's son or at least a demons son.
Brilliant
These videos are Erik’s version of a “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” banner. 💀
Mephisto Train about to roll out of the NR Station again. Alllll abooooard!
2:16 I definitely respect that NRS is not running away from this lol. I rewatched WV and in all honesty it really felt like it was setting something up like that
Allegedly, there were plans for it but with budget cuts and rushed shooting and production because of Covid, it didn’t turn out
I'm really starting to believe that "Teen" is really is Billy Kaplan and these are the reasons why;
1. Billy Kaplan is a reincarnation of the one the sons of Scarlet Witch and her husband Vision as in the comics Billy reincarnated from William Maximoff. Significant storylines for the character include his and his brother's search for their original mother, and I believe that will actually be part of the storyline of this series.
2. In the comics, Billy is known for being a prominent gay character in the Marvel Comics. Joe Locke, the actor is openly gay and fits the character perfectly.
I, for one believe that the series will further establish that there's also Thomas Shepherd (Speed) and both him and Billy are identical but born into different families. The main reason Billy wanted Agatha's help is because he is looking for his real mother who is probably held captive by Mephisto. That's pretty much the reason why he'd even free Agatha from Wanda's spell. Also, check out 00:29, the colors the boy is wearing match Wiccan's in the comics including the headband.
Great catch.
But this headband thing etc. could exactly be what they did in order to confuse us.
The symbol is in the bottom right of the Tarot cards which is a common place for artist's signature. If the symbol does represent someone they created that deck.
“Is anyone thinking that hard about this?” 🤣🤣🤣 Yes, Erik, we’re all there with you on the Mephisto train! 🙌🙌🙌
Hehe was waiting for this since watching that interview
8:24 - So, MW you say. I guess, Mark Wahlberg confirmed.
In the trailer, there is a shot of “teen” wearing a red sleeved shirt and a blue headband. There’s the “costume” hint.
There’s also stars on the side of his pants that you can see in the D23 photos. Also matching a certain costume…
The fact that anyone thinks he’s not Billy at this point is boggling to me lol.
@@lowkeyproductions6681 Then again, those are exactly the hints that Marvel would drop in order to confuse us.
honestly i wouldnt mind if the teen is somehow Mephisto. Idk how he acts really in the comics. but having the devil of the MCU be sorta flamboyant like HIM in Powerpuff Girls would be fun i think
Yeah no. I’m not personally against it but audiences would tear marvel apart for that
@@TristanTML09 fo sho
Yeah, no. I’m one of those that would tear that apart. Lol!
@@BrottenGuy the actor for mephisto is confirmed Sacha Baron Cohen (it wasnt for this it was iron heart he was confirmed in but could have shifted or announced in this before appearance in that) If anyone thinks he's not gonna over-act or be "theatrical" just a bit is delusional tho lmao I think those words are better than flamboyant for sure. Even in the comics he was a bit "theatrical"
No
Maybe he'll just be revealed but won't fight until Midnight Sons
If the details really are in the costumes, and his witches road outfit is his favorite, then he HAS to be Billy. When that outfit was on display at D23, the sides of the pants were stitched with stars, a lot like how Wiccan's suit has a star pattern on the sides.
Teen is Billy. The sigil over his mouth, be it either a W or M, is for Wanda Maximoff. The early episodes hint towards Teen being Agatha's baby as a red herring, to distract from the fact that Teen wants to walk the Witches Road to resurrect his ACTUAL mother, Wanda.
You should look at Teen's pants. His jeans specifically. They have clues there. They're the rxact replica of Wiccan's space suit.
Has anyone considered that Joe Locke's character could be Agatha Harkness' son Nicholas Scratch since there is involvement with Salem's Seven. Or it could be Wiccan possessed by Chthon, an ancient demon affiliated with Wanda's history.
Chthon possesses Wanda, not Billy
I’ve been having this gut feeling that the Billy stuff is an intentional misdirect and that Teen’s actually Nick Scratch ever since I first saw him 😭 Idk what to believe at this point, but Salem Seven makes me further believe this theory
Chthon was already name dropped by Wong in MoM.
@@surendraniyer8992 correct in the Avengers comic books Wanda was possessed directly. However, when has the Marvel Cinematic Universe followed the comics directly.
Exactly Wiccan that’s literally what I just commented 😭😭
i think he might've said "I'm not sure" Which explains agathas reaction
"you have entered the name"Not Sure". is it correct?"
"For Real" was the reason I tapped... Jokes apart, Anytime you think of Mephisto, I'm with you... Been with you on the Mephisto train since the time you started mentioning him being the possibility of him being in the MCU!
The Mephisto brainrot is strong with this one... will you be making another apology video in December? 😆
Not saying it's mephisto, but it's definitely mephisto.
The greatest trick Mephisto ever pulled…
Watching this video I realized that the Teen does look like a younger Sasha, and then you brought it up. I think you might be right that that is a big clue to his identity
If mephisto is in Agatha all along im going to lose my mind
I’m hoping Teen isn’t Billy.
First, he doesn’t look like the previous actor at all. If the kids come back I’d like them to come back as the same actors.
2nd, it’s waaaay too obvious for it to be Billy. They are hiding it for a reason.
I’m hoping it’s just Mephisto or some other evil entity just trying to manipulate Agatha.
But I want Billy. :(
@@simonkendra3079 me too just not that Billy
I don't care who's Joe's gonna be, I just love him. Can't wait for Agatha!
Mephisto is here to stay and slay!
It would be both hilarious and infuriating if the teen's identity goes unexplained until the last episode and he's just Ralph Boner's son looking for his bong or something.
Three syllables, it could be Nicholas. Like Nicholas Scratch Agatha's son.
The way I wheezed when I read this title 🤣🤣
So, everyone's gonna ignore the straight up Mephisto visual in the trailer....and nobody's talking about it.
That was shot down and clarified as not Mephisto right at the time the trailer released. Maybe by Jessica?
Would Mordo make an appearance or at least his name? He was quietly taking out magic users since the end of the first Doctor Strange movie.
Not in Multiverse of Madness sir
Yup, I felt it coming. Erik's favorite phrase! "mephisto confirmed!"
Pretty sure all the holes in the frayed jumper are all magic symbols
I think he's Billy, but, like the comics, he originated as a part of Mephisto. A part that he maybe wants back and Agatha ultimately has to protect him long enough to become a real and separate boy.
This must be the happiest day of his natural born life; it was Mephisto all along..
Man....u really know ur stuff... luv ur videos 😊😊
we are sooo back!!!
Those are Mephistos kids. Wanda got "Roupeed" as Joe Koi's mom would say it.
I would just settle for a Bryan Cranston cameo dressed as the devil to troll us. My heart would be happy.
i don’t think Teen is Mephisto, but rather Mephisto did the mouth thing (looks very much like a capital M) to conceal Billy/Wiccan’s identity from Agatha, since he would be connected to Wanda as well as Mephisto. (also “Billy Kaplan” is 4 syllables) Teen/Billy/Wiccan is just being used as a pawn in Mephisto’s larger game.
Marvel could be setting up Mephisto as a multi-phase Thanos level villian that is working behind the scenes.
There could be a scene in the Ryan Gosling Ghost Rider movie revealing all the ways Mephisto influenced the MCU.
I thought about the kid being a younger version of Sacha Baron Cohen as well. However, if Teen is supposed to be Mephisto, his behavior says otherwise. There are scenes where he looks afraid and uncertain. Yes, Mephisto is a deceiver, but he's in scenes where he's alone, there's no one to deceive and he still looks apprehensive and uncertain. It might make sense if Mephisto is trapped inside Teen and traveling The Witches Road is a necessary journey for him to return to his former glory. That would lead to the question of who trapped him. Was it Agatha?
Another three syllable possibility for Teen’s name that gets censored would be Demiurge, assuming that this is Billy Kaplan.
i a THOUSAND times want to have a watch paty with you guys!!!
Yeah, sure... "for real" this time.
But Mephisto is confirmed in IronHeart.
Wait I thought that was js rumors?? Is he gonna be the big bad after The Hood?
Anyone else just start chuckling when they saw this title
Quoting Joey seeing TV from Friends " I AM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW ! 😃😄 "
God damn it we are really back to the era 🎉
The "Teen" actor has a striking resemblance to Sacha Baron Cohen (I remember his name being thrown around for the role of Mephisto).
Not to mention the handwritten M over his mouth 👀
Not the mephisto relaps 😂😂
Joe Locke's playing a teen Mephisto would actually fit perfectly with that rumour about Sacha Baron Cohen playing him.
I was thinking something similar, he's not Billy
Nice pun on the word "cameo"
I agree that this is for real. This is the best opportunity to introduce Mephisto
Mephisto playing in Citizen Kane! Confirmed!!
We are so back
Mephisto doesn’t need anyone to be a conduit for his presence and power so that he can take power. He’s mephisto, not another witch. But hey, love the theories. Please keep them coming
There is a pentagram in the rip over Teen's heart in his sweatshirt.
The title of the video is so good
I'm liking your tone.
Choo choo!! All aboard the train again. 😈😈😈
Teen is 100% Billy Maximoff
…….. Is it the “OHMYGOD MEPHISTO?!” time of year again?
All I know is, I can't wait for the song "Mephisto All Along"...
Great ep
We’re back, baby!!!!
I wonder if Teen could be Agatha's son, and the words being censored are "I'm your son"
I’m so ready for the weekly spirals and theories. 🤣
Idk if mephisto is here or not, I'm just joyed for another rockstar vid LET'S GO
The reason why they didn’t tell us more about the Tarot cards is because of the Major Arcana card, XV (15) The Devil. The card created for the production likely has huge Mephisto vibes.
I’m pretty sure that the “teen” character is Billy Kaplan/Wiccan.
The Teens worn sweater looks like the sweater Billy wears in Wandavison during Halloween.
Well if the answers to each character is in what they are wearing then the Teen is wearing a sweater with several torn or dropped stitches so “Old Stitch “ or “Old Scratch” which are terms used for the devil so…😂😂
WandaVision would have been better with Mephisto revealed. They did make a bunch of devil hints and references. I hope he is eventually revealed to be behind the last few years, with a smash cut of all the devil references they've been making.
I love how the last time Mephistopheles was actually confirmed was in the ghost rider movies
Ah of course whenever Mephisto is mentioned we go crazy!
Choo Choo. All aboard the Mephisto train!
Don’t give me “Hope” ‼️
If you look at ‘Teens’ pants it has stars and cosmic symbols on it. Which on wiccans official suit it has sparkles and such in the comics.
Nurse! He's back at it again🗣
10:57 Anyone else think this looks like Agatha is trying to extract something from a tormented ‘teen’s mind? His lack of resistance maybe indicating that he isn’t the person who put that something in there?
Hey, I hope you're right. 😊 Don't want to go down as the boy who cried Mephisto.
Oh no my mephisto obsession is back like during wandavision ahhh
All aboard the mephisto theory train!