for future reference, when you're dealing with bolt-nut fasteners in electronics, you want to make sure the nut is on the outside, AWAY from the electronic bits whenever possible. this way when the nut vibrates/works loose, it doesn't fall into the circuit and short out leads or traces. the screw would have to move much further, so it is almost impossible for it to come all the way clear of the hole and fall onto the circuit. yes, i learned this the hard way. several times. 😆
I hadn't thought about that. Good point. I think the problem in this case would be with the bolt being so long (for no particular reason) that it would have stuck out of the bottom of the case
I fitted one of these keyboards to my Spectrum 48k back around 1983. I stopped using the computer around 1985 and left it in storage for decades. On getting it out a few years ago, I found the same issue with the Saga keyboard... The membrane had completely disintegrated. I decided to reinstate the Spectrum with a new original style keyboard. (I lost my original one). Pity I didn't see this video a few months ago, I would have sent you my Saga keyboard to see if you could use any of the parts. Personally, I prefer my old Speccy to looking original again with the 'dead flesh' keyboard.
Hi Peter. Thanks for the comment 😊. I put it back in its box after I finished with the video. I don't think these membranes can be sourced now sadly. To be fair, they aren't a common keyboard. I would have been nice to have got it working. Hilarious though really looking back that you had to put your on key stickers on 😂
Nice vid! I have one of these that the previous owner had opened up and stuffed the mainboard inside rather than using the bottom of the speccy case. I was both impressed they made it fit and horrified at all the holes they cut to do it.
Thanks Ste, I appreciate your support. Can I ask? Did you get yours off eBay? as I saw one on there a while back just as you described stuffed inside it
@@RetroComputingReboot it was fine after a bit of love. Amazingly it wasn't cooked. I put a video together showing it. Just a shame about all the holes in it. My theory is it came from a plus case and therefore had no bottom to install.
I have a Saga 2+ keyboard with the same issue with the membrane. I ended up cutting a piece of stiff cardboard and taping it to the back of they keyboard. I then punched some holes through the screw holes from the top and then screwed it down as normal. This gave the membrane something to push against rather than flex apart when you press a key. Works perfectly. Was trying to work out how to reassemble it (long screws towards the back - thanks :) ).
for future reference, when you're dealing with bolt-nut fasteners in electronics, you want to make sure the nut is on the outside, AWAY from the electronic bits whenever possible. this way when the nut vibrates/works loose, it doesn't fall into the circuit and short out leads or traces. the screw would have to move much further, so it is almost impossible for it to come all the way clear of the hole and fall onto the circuit.
yes, i learned this the hard way.
several times. 😆
I hadn't thought about that. Good point. I think the problem in this case would be with the bolt being so long (for no particular reason) that it would have stuck out of the bottom of the case
I fitted one of these keyboards to my Spectrum 48k back around 1983. I stopped using the computer around 1985 and left it in storage for decades. On getting it out a few years ago, I found the same issue with the Saga keyboard... The membrane had completely disintegrated.
I decided to reinstate the Spectrum with a new original style keyboard. (I lost my original one). Pity I didn't see this video a few months ago, I would have sent you my Saga keyboard to see if you could use any of the parts. Personally, I prefer my old Speccy to looking original again with the 'dead flesh' keyboard.
Hi Peter. Thanks for the comment 😊.
I put it back in its box after I finished with the video. I don't think these membranes can be sourced now sadly. To be fair, they aren't a common keyboard. I would have been nice to have got it working.
Hilarious though really looking back that you had to put your on key stickers on 😂
Nice vid! I have one of these that the previous owner had opened up and stuffed the mainboard inside rather than using the bottom of the speccy case. I was both impressed they made it fit and horrified at all the holes they cut to do it.
Thanks Ste, I appreciate your support. Can I ask? Did you get yours off eBay? as I saw one on there a while back just as you described stuffed inside it
@@RetroComputingReboot yeah that's probably the same one.
Haha I saw that and thought OMG why?!!! Did it work?
@@RetroComputingReboot it was fine after a bit of love. Amazingly it wasn't cooked. I put a video together showing it. Just a shame about all the holes in it. My theory is it came from a plus case and therefore had no bottom to install.
I have a Saga 2+ keyboard with the same issue with the membrane. I ended up cutting a piece of stiff cardboard and taping it to the back of they keyboard. I then punched some holes through the screw holes from the top and then screwed it down as normal. This gave the membrane something to push against rather than flex apart when you press a key. Works perfectly. Was trying to work out how to reassemble it (long screws towards the back - thanks :) ).
Thanks for the comment redfiat. I do feel like I need to look at mine again. I havnt touched it since making the vid. Maybe a fresh pair of eyes.....
who sent you that keyboard? Freddy Kruger?
I can only imagine I'd stabbed the box at some point with my penknife without thinking 😂. It's a shame though, I was really sad about it
angry teenager... that would explain the stabby-stabby bits on the cardboard box. (and the tree outside. and the former dartboard. and the...)
I still have my dartboard 😂