Real Lawyer Reacts to Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Episode 1)
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A rookie defense attorney who defends his childhood best friend for murder in his first trial. Will he ace the case or fail the bail? Today we’re going to find out if Phoenix Wright is really an ace attorney. Stay until the end for my Legal Realism Grade!
Somehow this one never ended up on my radar. I haven’t played the game or the watched the anime, but I can see why people love it. But that doesn’t mean it’s realistic… Today I’m breaking down the first episode of Phoenix Wright. Are there other episodes that are especially good? Would you like to see me react to another particular Phoenix Wright episode? Let me know which one!
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LegalEagle can we ask legal questions
One of my favorite movies is "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil." There is some court stuff. But I'm not sure how great for a video it would be.
You should do a video on dressing like a lawyer and suiting-up tips! (I don't know if its already been done, sorry if so!)
@Kandinsky season one, episode 2 is pretty good. I think it was episode 2. Fantastic show, so kudos for suggesting it!
"The prosecutor cant just pull out some evidence"
*laughs in Edgeworth*
“Your autopsy report is... outdated”
@@muneshxge *salary cutting noises*
i really want to see how he reacts to edgeworth hahaha
*LAUGHS IN VON KARMA*
You say it like it would be allowed in Real life
wait til he sees phoenix cross-examining a parrot, a radio, and a spirit.
stopdropandroll don’t forget the orca
@@theorangeguy6704 i havent played past Apollo justice so pls dont spoil
Believe it or not when I was watching a reaction on it I said "Well why don't we cross-examine the parrot" as a joke but then they actually did I was like "What th- I was kidding"
and an Orca...
Thanks for spoiling everything i knew The parrot but... 😂
“Trials take months, or even years, to litigate”
“Three days. Take it or leave it.”
I laughed at the same point XD
@@khamjaninja. True
@@khamjaninja. In that sense it successfully captures the near sisyphean task of actually winning a case as a defense attorney in japan.
@@khamjaninja. japanafornia law system really hates defense attorneys
@@ihavepermissiontospamracia7794 Hey, at least you get a cute girl as an assistant.
Objection: In Japan, legal workers are given lapel pins. The pins in game are actually replicas of real life Japanese legal lapel pins. Remember, this series takes place in Japanifornia!
"Eat your hamburgers, Apollo"
Like Yakuza members
From what I understand, the Japanifornia thing is a joke in the community. The games and show take place in normal Japan, but the American localization of the DS game had it take place in California for reasons similar to Brock saying that onigiri is jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.
@@bucket9144 I'm pretty sure kids would know what Japan is
@@mariotheundying yes. But the American localization team at the time did not think kids would know what Japan is. I dont know who was in charge, but a similar example would be 4Kids changing onigiri into jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.
Judge: *Says "Larry Butts"*
Legal Eagle: *Doesn't laugh*
This man is a professional.
I'd like to thank you... this made me laugh. I needed it
@@ddlcfan5539 No problem. I'm just surprised no-one else mentioned it.
@@PlebNC "okay, that's an... interesting name"
Maybe he would have cracked a smile if the defendant's first name was Seymour...
@@alwrig Now I want to see the scene editted so the faces and voices are editted to look/sound like Moe and Bart from the Simpsons.
"You can't just pull out some record and enter it in as evidence."
Edgeworth:*Laughs in autopsy update.*
Let's not forget the Wiretap.. That's highly illegal in the US lol
Now say it with me: IN JAPAN...
He lives in california
@@Nexus71c
*_Your autopsy is.... o u t d a t e d_*
Let's not forget about franziska Von karma.
LegalEagle: Ace Attorney is a terrible example of lawyering
All Ace Attorney fans ever: sounds about right
It was never about realism
It's about that feeling of piecing together all the clues like a detective and putting them to use to solve zany, other the top murders.
You're telling me a witness can't give multiple contradictory testimonies over and over again, withold evidence, and admit openly that the prosecutor specifically told them to lie in their testimony without ANYONE trying to declare it a mistrial? And that's just what only the witnesses do in almost every case in this series
@@astralguardian5930I agree
We’re just here to have a good time 😂
If he thinks Payne is breaking a lot of rules... Payne is one of the cleanest procecutors in the series compared to everyone else.
fr tho hahahah
Franziska: Laughs in whip striking all in the courtroom
@@jadedfire4351 I mean, Gavin isn't too bad.
Being a criminal is one hell of a rule break
(Cough cough) Von Karma (Cough)
@@TinkatonGaming2 *cough cough Godot*
7:25 “That’s bad news for Phoenix Wright!”
You just described Phoenix’s entire career as a Lawyer in one sentence.
Phoenix Wright: *exists*
God: "that's bad news for Phoenix Wright!"
LMAO
Also the reason why Phoenix wins a lot of his cases is bluffing, and luck lots of and lots of luck.
@@derrickhaggard And His "Intimidating","Scary" Hair
@@derrickhaggard And Mia appearing every now and then
objection: a big part of the original game was to show how one-sided Japanese law is in favor of the prosecution
Which apparently is disturbingly close to reality...
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat If a case goes to court it's because they are really certain that they are going to win. But as a consequence a lot of cases never go to court at all.
Considering a 14 year old ‘blind’ and ‘non english speaking’ boy got convicted all because his fingerprints are on a vent which was ‘the only way out’, I’d say this is quite accurate
@@jesseanimatess Bruh
True. It’s a satire of the Japanese law system where things have been pushed so far into the absurd territory that it makes ones thankful for the constitutional rights that stop the real world from becoming like that.
real lawyers always react to the first case of ace attorney. fine enough, they make some good points. but I wanna see a lawyer react to that one case in Dual Destinies (5th game) where the defendant is an orca, and the prosecutor is an active death row inmate with a feral hawk as an assistant council, and they cross-examine the orca, and there's a penguin in the courtroom at one point
This is reacting to the anime, not the game, though
@@duffman18 The parrot, the serial killer on a radio, and a dead person's spirit called by a medium are in the anime though. Even without the orca, the franchise can be real weird.
I want to see them reacting to Turnabout goodbyes, RFTA & Farewell my Turnabout
Mcscuse me I just played the first game
@@gold_hampter4017 you heard me.
also play the rest, they're REALLY good. (fyi tho the case i described is DLC)
Imagine his surprise when he found out that this case is the most normal case in the entire franchise. I swear this franchise is more adventure-comedy than mystery.
That's what's makes it more interesting!
It really is. Then in the anime they have an anime original arc that gives you tonal whiplash from how straight laced it feels.
@@Algebruh2407 doesn’t the court room like collapse into this battle ground between phoenix and edgeworth at one point?
We are talking about the parrot are we?
@@JoJo.mp4 the parrot, interrogating a radio, exercising a ghost, holding a retrial on a train,
OBJECTION!
In Japan, attorneys do, in fact, have badges.
Well thats uncalled for😅
Clearly he's speaking from an American judicial point of view.
Seamus Corey
Hold it!
He clearly said he had no knowledge of the japanese systems. He’s speaking from his experiences as an American attorney!
HOLD IT!
Are you just gonna skip past the comic sans title?
Sustained
"The prosecutor can't just magically pull out some record and enter it into a evidence"
Miles Edgeworth : Hold my updated autopsy report
It’s called Japan apparently
They pull it out of their ass
@@themilkman7664 more like "video game plot twist"
But yeah
@@themilkman7664 *japanofornia*
Actually I think you mean to say
“Edgeworth: “hold my fixed autopsy report”
“Theres no way you can prove theres a bullet in my shoulder!!!”
Wright: laughs in convenient metal detector
Well phoenix wright
I'm sorry but the bullet worked in a chemical factory and has no finger prints
How will you prove it now
@@crystalcarbon OBJECTION!
I am a lawyer!
@@crystalcarbon haha RTGame moment
@@andrearossi6564 Damn I guess the bullet got it's fingerprints back
Judge: *Agrees with Wright and lets him use said detector*
I believe in Judge Supremacy 🛐
“Do you not have any evidence at this point?” Phoenix fought a trial when he didn’t even have a single memory at that point so-
Phoenix *won* a trial when he didn’t even have a single memory at that point so-
@@starmada105 phoenix won a trial when he didn't have a single memory AND got the same defendant acquitted after she was accused of murder AGAIN in a retrial that was needed because he didn't have a single memory of the trial (because he was being impersonated the first time)
My question is: can a prosecutor bring a whip to court and whip the hell out of the attorney?
If your dad is a prosecutor that basically owns the court then probably.
@@fisharecute5642 Guess that's a "No" for the whip
Only If the lawyer can bring a taser as well
@@shahshakuras700 and his girlfriend
If the Judge accepts...
*OBJECTION!*
Anime characters can only wear one outfit!
Unless, of course, they’re going to the beach.
Or to school or Church
Or have some kind of character arc, in which case the clothes/style can change with (hair included).
Nah Phoenix also wears the suit for the beach 😎
*One Piece laughs*
OBJECTION, THEY WEARE 2 OUTFITS AND A BEACH OUTFIT
I know it's an older video, but I wanted to clarify a couple of points.
The legal system in Ace Attorney is very loosely based on the Japanese system. It's partially a satire of real elements of their system (like a less consistent pretrial discovery, which used to not be practiced at all in Japanese courts), but mostly a system designed to make each case an interesting uphill battle for the player.
The Ace Attorney games are set in a dystopian alternate reality where the murder rate is so high that the government has responded in two ways: by assuming the guilt of the defendant (which is why Phoenix was trying to prove his client's innocence) and by putting a *three day time limit* on trials, giving the attorneys very little time to defend their clients.
Technically speaking these three day trials are a _filtering_ mechanism; anyone found guilty at these trials are held for a more formal hearing at a higher court (the Judge references this in most game over messages).
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Thank you for a detailed, excellent post. Jared.
"The prosecutor cant just pull out some evidence"
Edgeworth: Legal Eagle.......... your autopsy is outdated.
"it can actually be harder if you truly believe someone is innocent" damn no wonder phoenix is so stressed all the time
To be fair, 9 times out of 10 they *are* innocent
Don’t forget the final case of Justice For All, my mans had it bad
O LIVER
holy shite i used to watch your videos all the time
you’re a big inspiration for me dude, keep doing what you’re doing
Well it's a bit easier when the actual killer is sitting 10 meters away eating popcorn
@@therealSunTzu very cool actual Sun Tzu
In these games, the basis of court trials is "Guilty until someone else is proven guilty"
"Guilty until at least one witness and/or the prosecutor is proven guilty"
@@Felixr2 *Cough cough* DL-6 *Cough cough HACK-* Great. I'm sick
@@Felixr2
"Guilty because someone has to be guilty but we don't know who so you are guilty until proven otherwise"
That's how the Japanese courts work though
@@Felixr2 yep, its either the witness is the murderer or the prosecutor is the murderer lmao wtf
The storyline of Phoenix is actually very good in the games. He goes from believing that all clients are innocent and he needs to save them (taught by Mia, who accepts that her methods are limited and quite blinding at some point) to knowing that what matters is finding the truth so justice can be applied properly even if he is somehow connected to the case. It's really interesting the transition because the first game is basically in Phoenix's favor and every defendant is innocent, but then the second game introduces the idea that it might not be like that and the third throws in the personal factor, a real good story.
Sooooo he goes from a good defense attorney to the world's worst defense attorney? That's his character arc?
@@waldoman7 Hm, no? Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it. There's an entire case on the second game that touches exactly that
@@claralima1967 "Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it"
Wrong. Being a good defense attorney is using every single tool that you have in order to prove in court that your client is innocent. That's it, nothing more and nothing less. It's never about "finding the truth". That's the duty for the judge and jury, not you as the defense attorney.
@@triparadox.c Right. Can't argue with that. It's his job, even if the client is guilty and he knows it. I guess he is a bad defense attorney, after all. I might've gotten swept up by the game's narrative 🤷
Makes me wonder what a defense attorney is supposed to do when during the trial they themselves are being convinced of the defendent's guilt. Would they have to let themselves dismissed due to conflict of interests?
OBJECTION!
This is just a small thing, and I'm sure you may have heard this before. But in the games Phoenix Wright DOES talk to Larry for a bit before the trial starts. Being honest, the games have more to show and possibly tell than the Anime. A single case story in a game can take up to ten hours, so they had to narrow it down to either twenty minutes or a multi part episode.
The anime also skips over a short scene where Phoenix considers objecting to Larry taking the stand, but decides not to because of his philosophy of "believe in the defendant's innocence".
LegalEagle: “He has no idea about the autopsy report”
Edgeworth: “I agree”
*Laughs in tsk tsk*
@@onskrieg did gumfuck not tell you?
@@zacross8504 ah yes gumfuck my favorite video game character.
@@zacross8504 You already left the same reply to another comment on this video...
@@killerbug05 ah yes
"You don't want to bring up the autopsy report unless..."
Me, knowing they never shut up about the autopsy report, ever: *stifled laugh*
They do the same in American legal shows. Everybody gets that wrong.
You ever wonder how Gumshoe pays the bills with so many autopsy reports coming in?
why your comment make me think of datz..
Hey guys, I had another autopsy done just two seconds ago, so here’s the updated autopsy.
That autopsy report is *outdated your honour*
lol update
"The defence attorney here isn't trying to show that the witness in particular committed the murder. All he has to do is show that there is a reasonable doubt that his client did."
*Laughs in the entire game structure*
Mr Wright if you cant prove this witness is guilty in 10 minutes then your client is no matter how much evidence says they aren't
OBJECTION! Not once did I hear anyone say, "if something smells, it's probably the Butz." How can anyone properly react without this critical line?
thats what I am saying
"The defense, especially in a criminal case, bears no burden whatsoever."
LOL you, sir, have no idea of the rabbit hole you just stepped into.
In the world of Phoenix Wright, you are not innocent until proven guilty; you are not even guilty until proven innocent; you are guilty until someone else is proven guilty in your place.
Yeah, not exactly a fair justice system.
*idiot dressed to go rob flashbacks*
Actually this isn't 100% there are plenty of normal cases in the world of ace attorney where the true criminal isn't found.
It just happens that the cases you play in the game are all radical suspense stories of murder.
Nick Apollo Athena blackquil Payne and even Edgeworth take normal cases behind the scenes.
Japan's legal system is also buttfucked. It's a situation where like 99.6% of defendents are proven guilty.
Judge:thank you for this evidence that 100% proves that the defendant is not guilty but who could be the culprit
Defense:... I dont know
Also judge: I DECLARE THAT THE DEFENDANT IS GUILTY 100% NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
@@charlesedwinbooks - I'm referring more to the cases where there's a defendant on trial, the ones you actually see play out.
"Why is the judge asking questions?"
wait till he sees Manfred von Karma
Wait until his daughter starts using that whip on everyone in sight in the courtroom
Jeremy Wilson she’s his daughter? I thought she was his wife
Edit: to everyone seeing this, please note that I thought that Franzika was about 35-40 when I first saw her.
Darkkiller _ Nah, the lovely Franny is his daughter. Going into the lore a little, she and Edgeworth basically grew up together.
Jeremy Wilson ah ok.
Yes
I love how many things he's questioning about Ace Attorney in just the first 5 minutes. Like, how do we tell this guy that we'll have a parrot as a witness in a later case? Or the use of mystic arts on trial? We had ghosts too
What about a full blown trial on a fu*king train with Edgeworth via zoom call or whatever that was???
@@flstep835 Well, that was anime filler, so at least that one can be blamed on the anime studio rather than on the series (not like the actual series is beyond doing that, though)
Man, he would so disturbed to learn just how much of this is actually accurate to Japanese law.
It is?
@@Krushak8888 thats the whole point. Do ur research. Satire on how messed up it is
@darren6458 the issue with doing my research is, I could find articles for and against. It is legitimately fine to ask someone to show me what they mean. You don't have to be a dick about it.
US: "Innocent" until proven guilty
PW:AA: Guilty until someone else is proven guilty
Japan: Guilty until Proven guilty
Lmfao
XD
People always talk about Japan's high conviction rate, but Harvard Law did a study of their system and found that it's high because prosecution only moves forward with "sure thing" cases. They do this because Japan's court system is underfunded and understaffed. You can google the study for more info.
@@zidbits1528
Well that's even worse than the original problem...
@Tristan Basri
I don't know where you got that particular opinion from, but you do you
OBJECTION
In Japan you can pull evidence out of nowhere legally
Really? Wew
I see the intention with it but tbh it sounds like such a serious loophole
L16htW4rr10r most of the time, sadly, yes specially when you are rich and male.
Yep it's part of it's legal system
Wow i thought u where joking
"The prosecutor can't just magically pull out some record and enter it into a evidence" - Actually, in Japan, they totally can! Japan uses an inquisitorial legal system as opposed to the U.S and U.K's Adversarial Legal system, which means things such as the judge having a much greater hand in not only evidence gathering, but evidence presentation (They can even question and interrogate defendants and witnesses) but also evidence can be entered during a trial, precedent also has much less of an impact there and judges have a wider discretion on giving punishments! It kind of lives up to the moniker of "Inquisitorial" to be honest, the trial itself places an emphasis on "discovery of the truth" as opposed to the adversarial system, where everything is more or less known and entered into the court records beforehand and the key purpose of the trial is "winning versus losing".
Of course the reality is that they usually just go "guilty" and move on
Can't believe that i understood everything. Finally, law school is playing off after 3 years
Objection: the game is lawyering the Japanese legal system as its incredibly archaic and the best lawyer in Japan only successfully defended six clients, because once your trail has reached court in Japan it tends to be that you've basically already been considered guilty as it's almost impossible to actually win a Japanese court case
Wait till he meets the physically abusive prosecutors
Whips, hot coffee and whatever Blackquill is doing. The wiki says he is using his fingers since he obviously is not allowed to carry any weapons, but I call bs on that
OneToxicPixel I always thought it would be a feather!
C h I c k e n s a l t
OneToxicPixel 😂 and like necklaces from “sad monk”
@@OneToxicPixel and tasers!
The fact that he didn’t question the airbender scenes is the proof that all advocates have to go through an airbending tutorial.
Hell yeah court is fun
Or so I hear
They have repaired for the fire nation attack
@HQ i’m applying to lawyering school as we speak
@@nicoleonlysometimes824 nice, good luck!
Objection, this is pure gold compared to episode 2, where they call on the murder victim through the accused murderer as a defence
Well technically no one(except Phoenix) is really aware of that happening in the first place. Also at that point Phoenix was the one being accused.
@pokedash1221 isn't there one later trial where Lady Von Karma took a picture of either Pearl or Maya as they were channeling Mia to prove that their spiritual ability is substantial? I think it was to refute Phoenix's argument that Maya did not murder the victim because she didn't have a motive.
I think Legal Eagle will be surprised to know that here in Japan, once you get sued, the possibility to be found guilty is 99.99%.
I love how there was no reaction to Phoenix Wright being knocked down by the sudden gust of wind from the witnesses hand
It's because it also happens in real life
All layers are airbenders, didn't you know that? Did gumfuck not tell you? *Salary cutting noises* You should take a look at this *updated airbending Report*
@@lotusluminance5872 gumfuck is the absolute authority on air bending so he would definitely know, and if he doesn't know I sure hope he remembers he's up for review soon.
that just happens sometimes
It is because that is not illegal in 49 states.
(True fact, I checked).
LegalEagle: I would never recommend someone to represent someone they know so well.
Phoenix Wright: Has Defended Larry Butz twice, Edgeworth once, and Maya four times.
Defended even himself
I think Legal High (Japanese drama) mentioned that in Japan it's possible to go on court on your own.
@@yuciehayashi266 you can do that in America as well its just a really bad idea.
@@aliahmed7287 wow.. So is it actually something common? Like I don't even know whether my country allows it or not.
Objection! He has defended Edgeworth two times
The show should get extra credit for that bit where the bailiff restrains Butz during one of his outbursts. As you said on several videos, the bailiff can and will tackle you.
Since I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, the keychain at 3:01 signifies the friendship between Phoenix, Larry (the defendant), and Edgeworth (one of the prosecutors in later episodes). As children, they all enjoyed a TV show called Signal Samurai, so as a sign of their friendship, they each hold a keychain depicting one of Signal Samurai's three color-coded protagonists (Phoenix has the blue one, Larry has the yellow one, and Edgeworth has the red one). The keychains make several appearances throughout the series to consistently remind you that their friendship still holds strong, even in adulthood.
"You're not trying to prove that the witness did the murder."
Oh. Oh poor LegalEagle. That's literally the WHOLE premise of these games XD
I thought the point was to proof the judge was murderer!
I would like but u have nice likes.
@@maple7093 done it gone
@@maple7093 stfu
also you have to prove the motive of the crime
Objection!
By not reacting to the game, this witness is unable to give a reliable testimony. I move for dismissal
Sustained
Seconded.
@fish cocaine Eh, you are given all the info, somewhat at start, you can re examine and inspect the case more easily, where as this, its going at a pace, now that pace may be good or bad, and at that it can leave out, different options or details.
fish cocaine Read the above comment and first half of yours, now i see the second, sorry EDIT about not reacting to the game i mean
@fish cocaine objection!still having diferences,so much of them!
Objection! You said that nobody would take an attorney who had never been in a trial before for their homicide case but this can be overlooked considering who the the defendant is: Larry butz, due to Larry's unconditional belief in Wright as soon as he found out he was a lawyer (and got himself in legal trouble) I can say with 100% certainty he would call phoenix
Objection! The game was made in Japan, therefore the game is actually a satire on the Japanese legal system. The reason why it is based off of Japan's legal system and this is important...Japan has an almost 99% conviction rate meaning the defense doesn't have constitutional rights since there is no constitution. They literally do have to prove their innocence in Japan.
Japan does have a constitution
@@gokbay3057 🤓
America also has a similar conviction rate
99.8% conviction rate. Wow, typical of the japanese
He opened with ‘I am going to examine this from a US perspective’
This is like watching a martial artist reviewing an anime fight scene.
Writing this one down, suggesting it to Buzzfeed.
@@YTDeepshock There's a martial artist called Ramsey that sometimes reviews cartoons, McDojos and self defense videos
Well depends on which anime because some animes have realistic fight scenes. If you are talking about Naturo, Dragon Ball or Pretty Cure on the other hand than I think any human being would know that this is unrealistic and also you would be dead after like two minutes due to the fact that the characters can punch gigantic craters in the ground.
@@Enchantix00Sasori what about JoJo
well damn lol
Hah, if you think thats bad I can't wait til you meet Miles "Updated Autopsy Report" Edgeworth
Or Manfred "hide evidence I don't want and intimidate the judge" von Karma.
Roberto Azuaje i hate that this is accurate to both manfred and franziska
@@robertoazuaje9279 Manfred "the enlargement doesn't exist, and when it does exist, it isn't relevant" von Karma.
Or Franziska "I'm gonna just whip everyone" von Karma.
@@ryyyysa Oh my God xD
"Have you not spoken to your client?" Welcome to Ace Attorney
It may not be accurate, but ace attorney makes being a lawyer look interesting
“the prosecutor can’t just magically pull out some record and enter it into evidence, especially in the middle of an examination of a witness”
edgeworth, with his updated autopsy report: well ain’t that a damn shame
Damn bro the autopsy report was outdated
Have edgeworth dancing from the video instead
@@jacen884 yes but in that case It has to be established why the first report is wrong. In this case you have essentially two expert testimonies that are contradicting each other you have to know why.
Normal person: This comment is edited
Edgeworth: This comment is *OuTDaTeD*
I HAVE ANOTHER NEW AUTOPSY REPORT!
Considering this game has literal spirit mediums it’s not exactly going for realism.
Spirit mediums and psychics have been used by American Police before. It was a very controversial thing.
Don't forget cross examining a parrot
@@imraanakollo-arenz1449 animals have been used as witnesses before too.
Are you triggered?
Waiting to hear about someone using an emotion matrix in a court to complete the series tbh
6:58 in the game he actually does, Larry goes on a huge story about how he doesn’t care if he gets the death penalty because he wants to be with his love
On the one hand, I love Phoenix Wright. On the other hand, I am fully aware that the Japanese criminal justice system is basically going to come across as Martian law to an American attorney. Let's see where it goes.
Martian?!
@@britishaceattorney yes. The law on Mars is quite wacky.
@@Cenentury0941 Something seems out of place here
I like your comment SpectralTime
Well in Japan the court can be boiled down to “guilty until proven innocent” since the general consensus is that if you got as far as being in court you most certainly did it.
yup
*laughs in America*
Sonario648 ︻╦̵̵̿╤── g u n
seems...kind of excessive.
LegendaryMarston there’s a reason the have such a high conviction rate.
Wait till he sees Phoenix cross examining a parrot and radio, and Fanziska using a whip in court
Or the witness who brought a sword to the witness stand. Or Blackquill who is apparently throwing knives or daggers at people, or Godot who throws ceramic mugs full of hot coffee at people. And then there was the one guy who somehow brought a bomb!
And a whale.
And...The prosecutor...banging his head..to the...yeah..
He would be furious at whoever made the franzisca von karma whip a thing
@@erikaz1590 and Franziska Von Karma, who is, FOR SOME REASON, allowed to not only bring a whip to court, but to hit people with it, including the judge.
"Why is the judge asking questions"
trust me, man, don't mention it, it's the best thing ever, or else
Manfred will own the court and Franziska will whip the hell out of everyone.
And Godot will toss mugs with hot coffee
@@snowblizzard7623 and let's not even get to the other prosecutors there's a whole list
@@UziMan-Science-Mathok
"Defendants have no burden of proof"
Yeah, the problem comes with the Japanese way of implementing law.
They often go with either a) forcing a confession or b) forcing a "compromise"
Wait till he sees a man drinking 17 coffees in the court
16. The last one is thrown to the defense
@@user-bj5ki6sr6c 15/5 half a cup goes to the defense
*Objection!* Im pretty sure its 16. The last one that made it 17 was thrown at Mr. Wright.
Heres math for you. 16+ 16, So 1+1 is 2. 6+6 is 12. So that makes it 32 coffee cups that armando diego has dranken in the court.
So there it is. My Mathematics Objection.
@@soyjackz Isn’t that assault
@Shadow Ling he surely didn't get charged for it.
Was..... kinda hoping he was reacting to the game. Not the anime...
Ikr
TheFrostedfirefly
Same
Ikr, celestial tofu
It's much easier this way though. Besides, the plot is mostly the same.
Yeah,but the downside is the pacing.From what I heard,they compressed Ace Attorney 1 and Justice for All into one season.Which...kinda sucks,actually.If you're making an anime adaptation of a visual novel-type game,i say give us more episodes to focus on all the details of the games,and even include some laughs as well,such as the ladder vs stepladder banter.
Imagine if we get continuation of this one, next episode will be so WILD
I really wish he reacted to more episodes I wanted to see his reaction to phoenix interrogating a parrot and for him to see edgeworth
"You would never wear a T-shirt, crazy hair and a goatee to court"
Boy oh boy you have no idea how wild it gets lol
Everyone who's seen / played more of this canon just like "mmm, that's gonna be the least of your problems with defendants".
just wait for the literal cowboy who drinks in court, and a lady literally cracking a whip against the desk
Butz is like, by far the most normal defendant PW ever interacts with
@@pixelsilzavon77 and the cowboy has a knife to!
Just wait for a bomb to go off in court and someone getting sniped.
10:40
"Why is the judge asking questions?"
Manfred von Karma: Exactly.
Manfred died 1year after final case in aa
@@shourikaen. Yeah probably because he was framed for murder?
@@katescosmos he did admit it tho
@@katescosmos Actually, as we can see, there is usually a large gap between the sentence being announced and the execution (just like IRL). We see it in the case of Terry Fawles and... his girlfriend that inmates spend at least several years on death row. It probably means that von Karma died of old age, poor health or broken heart in detention.
@@Lernos1 people also say that he may have commited suicide
13:00 OBJECTION! The purpose of the question is so that Frank Sahwit can explain the time discrepancy in the time of death and when he found the body, not for his opinion on the autopsy report!
If I am not mistaken, the Japanese legal system places the burden of proof onto the accused. You have to prove you're not guilty. Also, the game makes fun of this very system because of the ridiculous situations everyone gets involved with, in and out of court.
Objection: Anime/manga characters consistently wear the same thing in all scenes. This is a common trope.
William Eldridge you should see Phoenix when he’s a hobo in Apollo justice... dude, I love your camera beanie, where can I get one?
objection sustained... hee
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Does not animated characters in general wear the same clothes most of the time?
Its the same on American and European cartoons.
Also, it's a way to save money and memory when making the videogame, since it's not that easy to redraw sprites for all characters with different clothes.
Objection: actually I don’t have one I just wanna say nice tie
@holpy opiniões TAKE THAT! *all of LegalEagle’s earnings*
@HQ I wonder if he's ever channeled Lionel Hutz and said:
"How about that! I looked something up! These books behind me don't just make the office look good, they're filled with useful legal tidbits just like that!"
TAKE THAT!
It’s so long!
@HQ It’s just a visually appealing, classy background. It’s not that deep.
OBJECTION! in this alternate future/universe, defense attorneys DO have to prove someone other than their client did it in order for their client to be found not guilty. theres one trial where even if you prove someone else COULD have done it, but not that they definitively DID do it, your client is found guilty and you lose the game.
Objection!
Actually, I've literally bought the game yesterday and I've played through the first case. The game does a much better job at explaining why the evidence is pertinent to be introduced as evidence. It seems that the anime decided to cut the long trials short because they goof around way too much in the game and the trials take a very long time to play out
OBJECTION!
*slams table*
There is a clear contradiction in this statement!
*shows attorney badge*
I clicked it on accident on my last sliver of health on the Kidnapping case in Miles Edgeworth.
The classic move
detective gumshoe look this is my attorney's badge
XD
Brandon Driver oh no
First Rule of Lawyering: Tell your Client to Shut Up.
Second Rule of Lawyering: If Client continues to speak, repeat rule 1.
Rule number 3, don't go near the judge or jury during the trial; the bailiff will tackle you. Rule number 4, you can't make argument whenever you want, do it during closing arguments. Rule number 5, don't piss off the judge.
Third rule: what are you doing here, go back to rule 1
Third rule: repeat rule 2
And if you think your work is done, than start back at one.
I clicked on this hoping he was reacting to the game… now THAT would’ve shocked the life out of a practicing attorney lmao
to be fair, in the games the investigations always happen before a trial, as well as interrogations or questioning the witness/defendant. so phoenix would have the evidence required to continue with the trial itself
Welcome to Japan, where there's no discovery phase and no jury. Being a defense attorney in Japan is HARD, because the deck is stacked so heavily in favor of the prosecution of criminal matters. This game still has a ton of inaccuracies to the Japanese courts, I believe, but it does capture the spirit of how much of an absolute uphill battle it is to get an innocent verdict.
If memory serves Japan's top defense attorney was famous for having like, *5* wins in court. Shit's pretty dire.
OBJECTION! While Japanese courts do, in fact, have notoriously high conviction rates a large part of this lies in case selection. Typically it's only the most blatantly guilty criminals who are even brought to court in the first place, meaning it's less an issue of the courts finding innocents guilty and more an issue of the courts primarily only dealing with the guilty.
@@spymaster0035 that's not true either, the reason why few cases make it to court is because Japanese police os known for extorting confessions from people who are held without trial for months.
@@truedarklander Last time I checked, a suspect can be held for 23 days ...NOT months....because if the police doesn't have any evidence by then, you can't submit the case to court.
@@Miyakolover thats not true even of the US (one word: Guantanamo) 🤣 if a rule doesnt get enforced is it even a rule?
The Japanese legal system has an INSANELY HIGH conviction rate, so I always took this as a satire of that - guilty until proven innocent.
guilty until someone else is guilty
@@TLAF923 remember when Phoenix proved Will Powers was innocent in The Turnabout Samurai, but the trial kept going until he proved who the real killer was? It really is guilty until someone else is proven guilty
Speaking of anime and the Japanese legal system I can’t wait till the lawyer character in jujutsu kaisen gets adapted
@@Jack_Ss aren’t these games like 20 years old? when did the anime start?
The dark side of that conviction rate being police who conspire with prosecutors to hide evidence, manipulate witnesses, or even fabricate evidence. And, of course, the fact that if the prosecution cannot 100% guarantee a conviction they simply won't prosecute. Charges get dropped, the incident gets buried, and with civil law in Japan being what it is, you can't even try and pressure them with the news or social media or you'll get sued for libel. Because in Japan, it's still libel, even if it's true. Sometimes especially if it's true.
I'd like you reacting to Matt Engarde's trial, I'd like to know what is suppose to happen in a hostage situation that affects directly to all the parts involved.
Ooohhh yes. Also what do you do when your client lies to you so thoroughly and you find out they are guilty in the 9th inning?
And then Phoenix cross-examines a radio, that's the best part
Prosecution: *hasn't laid a foundation*
Also prosecution: "Look at this photograph, every time I do it makes me laugh."
"The only time you want to bring up the autopsy report..."
*Miles Edgeworth intensifies*
*OUTDATED INTENSIFIES*
*GUMSHOE INTENSIFIES*
WHIPPING INTENSFIES
MANIPULATING TESTIMONIES INTENSIFIES
-TAKE THAT-
-slamming table intensifies-
I really hope confetti is dropped from the ceiling when the verdict is announced in real court rooms
I think AA Investigations implied it's Gumshoe who cuts up the ticker tape for the confetti
@@l.n.3372 There was an official comic that shows that. I think ProZD did a dub of it
@@penguinmaster1795
It's also dialogue in AAI
Imagine a murderer getting death penalty and suddenly confetti starts dropping, what a mood changer
@@luisrivera4413 omg, or that one trial where the defendant dies on the stand... woo! 🥳
Funny thing, these games were made by an actual lawyer, a good one too. They are based off Japanese legal systems though and they do things quite a bit different. It hammed up a lot obviously, but it's actually pretty accurate in most respects.
The dude was never a lawyer. You fell for a rumor.
@@coyraig8332source?
This game in english version has the best naming sense lol
Winston payne (rookie killer) - wince on pain
Frank sawhit (the witness/muderer) - Frank saw it
OBJECTION!
Wright does say he got the badge a couple months and that this will be his first real trial. It's not his first day but his first real trial.
What!
Impossible
N-NO WAY!
nani
So it's confirmed now
Ma-MASAKA
Okay, seriously. I wish I’d gotten to see him reacting to that one time Phoenix handed Miles his badge, and somehow that meant he could be a defense attorney instead of a prosecutor now.
When did that happen?
Wait, do you mean case 5 game 3?
@@larrybutz1391 yes
Larry Butz Wait , what are you doing watching a RUclips video
Hell, even a cardboard cutout is enough to become a defense attorney, as seen with the third case in the third game (no details due to spoilers).
The issues mostly stem from the fact that the game is episodic.
As a player you discover the case as you play the episode. The same way you slowly learn the facts in any given crime tv show.
Its just really weird because we dont see things through the eye of the police but through the ees of a defense attorney in the courtroom.
The one place where you really dont want to get dropped in medias res.
And Case 1 is always awkward because they don't do investigations until case 2 in a given game
I am very much enjoying watching his face as he realises in real time how insane Ace Attorney is.
"Your honor, I would like to cross-examine the witness's pet parrot"
- Phoenix Wright
lol i wished he got to that part of the anime
Everyone: ..............
Von Karma: i know i suggested it but wtf
don't forget the Orca too
The irony that IRL a parrot was used to put away his mobster owner
Objection, the legal system in Ace Attorney does not operate under the law that states a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. Rather than the defense attorney needing to prove reasonable doubt, the prosecutor simply needs to cast reasonable suspicion.
*TAKE THAT!*
Order! Order in the court!
or as they say in a different franchise...
*_SORE WA CHIGAU YO!_*
@Noah Hastings NANI?!?!
øv3r_ mïdñïght
my danganronpa soul loves you tbh
4:45 This is an anime based on the game, characters have their own outfits and will mostly have the same outfit all the time as if they don't have more clothes
He gave it a D- without even picking up on the lack of a jury, the "guilty until proven innocent" and the prosecutor ending up as defendant for the guilty witness that defines every trial in this series.
11:30 - The prosecutor can't just whip out evidence in the middle of an investigation.
Me: That's all Phoenix Wright does!
Have you met my friend, the updated autopsy report?
Have you met my friend, the updated autopsy report?
"Why whip out evidence, if you can whip the defense?" Franziska von Karma
they can if they say that before the case it didn't seems relevant. they only have to pass on " relevant" evidence.
@@Merlin1908 "Why throw out bad arguments when you can throw coffee at the defense?"
The "right against self-incrimination" actually appears in the last episode of the second game in the series lol
3:45 Ya. When I was wrongfully terminated I ran to my dad, a lawyer. He immediately referred me to a colleague to handle the case as opposed to himself!
Ace Attorney actually began as a bitter parody of the Japanese judicial system. At the time trials were seen as being incredibly rushed and unfair to defendants - hence the two day trial limit and everything being "guilty" or "not guilty". It's an element of dystopian parody that was lost in translation
The parody was instantly lost as soon as we went from the original Japan to Neo-California in our localizations.
Yeah
*Three days. There's a three day timeline. 1-3 and 1-4 are both three days.
@@Goldude and 1-5
@@Goldude Let is be stated for the court that the game also gives the information at the beginning of the first game about the 3-day trial limitation. (*Sweats* because the defense may be misremembering information)
11:26 The prosecution just can't magically pull out a record and enter it as evidence
Edgesworth: Laughs in *updated autopsy report*
QwQ
And he also ballerina dances when that happens
Von Karma: *Tazed the defense attorney and stole evidence*
Stolen
Umm actually...
"Don't go in court like how you go on the streets"
Sir, wait until you see the next episode...
Japan laws are very different, having breaks during the trial for more investigation, pulling out evidence in middle trial, etc are all totally fine over there...
Nothing gone wrong really... but i think knowing how different their juridical systems are (which is incredibly important) i think this is meant to catch attention from the fandom of a series that happens to be based in lawyering...