Well, to be fair, he was outnumbered SIX to one, as he said over the radio, he was completely defensive despite trying to engage them a few times. The fact he survived at all is a testament to his skill. Maverick was the one who was panicking or rather being overly cautious because of the death of Goose and getting caught in the MiG's jetwash only served to make him re-live that moment. Granted, once he overcame it and re-engaged, he helped level the playing field, which allowed Iceman to score a kill of his own before his F-14 got damaged and he lost some of his agility.
@@michaeledlin9995 You might be right, but the MiG pilots were using a tactic of flying in extremely close formation so as to disguise their individual radar signatures (foreshadowed at the very beginning when Jaguar lost his nerve). Sending out 2 F-14s to engage 2 MiGs, whose intentions were unknown, was a logical if possibly overconfident call. Once all six were revealed and their intentions shown to be very hostile, then Maverick, who was in reserve/on standby, was launched. They tried to launch another F-14 as well, but the catapults broke after launching Maverick.
1985 or 1986 this one of my beloved scene watch it all over again up to this year 2024 if i watch it its giving goosebump and schill all over my body and especially my soul
Goddamn this is still one of the best friggin movies! Saw it in the theater at the old AMC 6 Mira Mesa, just a couple miles from the north gate on Miramar Road. Seeing the OG Fightertown USA hangar and the NAS Miramar-Fightertown USA caption cross the screen drew a cheer in the theater you could probably hear on the damn base! And the F-14 will always be my all-time favorite airframe! Was so freaking pumped when Mav and Rooster got eyes on the Tomcat in the hangar in TG:Maverick!
For the start of the fight, after losing Hollywood (if the start of the film was anything to go by, they weren't allowed to fire unless fired upon). Iceman had to defend himself against six MiGs. He did try to engage them at one point but was completely defensive and was just trying to survive until Maverick showed up. Iceman did get a kill but was blindsided by a MiG that shot up his right engine which removed a great deal of power and agility. Sometimes circumstances don't play in your favour.
@@WaterCrane The orders for this mission were, "If you _witness a hostile act, you will return fire."_ Since Hollywood and Wolfman had been shot down, I _THINK_ that qualified as a 'hostile act.'
*BOTH* Catapults are broken? Enterprise-class carriers have *FOUR* catapults, so they still should have been able to launch at least two additional fighters. I understand that was used for dramatic effect, though.
Depends on if there was aircraft stacked on the bow cats in order to keep the aft deck clear for aircraft recovery's and launching of the alert 5 aircraft.
I have watched this movie at least a thousand times and that is no exaggeration, and I never caught Maverick crying at the 34 second mark until just now
Actually, Hangman _REQUESTED_ to launch, but was _DENIED,_ since there were bandits in the air. "Dagger Spare, request permission to _launch and fly air cover!"_ (Hangman) "Negative! Not with _bandits in the air!"_ (Admiral Simpson)
well its more like 3:23 being the scene of the melee of planes, but yes it a beautifully frame. 2:24 the easiest way to dodge enemy 23mm is to do a spiffy aileron role. Looks so cool!
Your right. They are not Migs. They are F-5's. Were used as aggressors during training excercises due to their manuverability being very similar to many of the Russian Mig fighters.
The F-5 had similar performance to the MiG-21, which at the time (and still is) was the most widely-exported fighter jet. You were more likely to fight against a MiG-21 than any other fighter. The MiG-21 is used by more air forces than any other fighter jet. And where are you getting that an Su-24 could compare with an F-14? The Su-24 was an attack aircraft and not a fighter; in a dogfight an F-14 would easily destroy it and all cruise missiles that the Fencer would launch.
Would have launched them on cats 1 and 2 and Maverick would have moved into cat 1 right after. Soooo maybe say his plane rudder or a hydraulic was malfunctioning and let him move over to another Tomcat that was not ready for launch. Pull out a reserve fighter on cat 2 and then that fixes all this cat stuff… But what we can do is let the producers read this comment and add this scenario to TopGun 3 Maverick’s fighter is down so he has to take out the “experimental one” to save everyone… The “drone fighter” is sitting with a malfunction in the remote system so Maverick has to “override it manually” and takes of in the drone fighter. Showing that a man in the cockpit is the best weapon you will ever have. And??? Maverick is the ultimate weapon to have at your disposal… And I’ll be happy when they give me the credit for it.
I was in the Air Force when I saw this movie. I had to continue to remind myself it's a fiction movie, not a documentary. Of course, in real life, the E2C Hawkeye would have tracked and identified all aggressor aircraft. And even without Mig Cap F-14s the missile cruisers with the carriers would have easily eliminated the threat with SM2 missiles. I loved the movie.
The instructor also said that that kill ratio had dropped to 3 to 1 since the Vietnam War because their pilots had learnt to rely too much on missiles and had lost some of the old dogfighting skill with guns and close-range fighting, and TOPGUN was to help change that.
I have the movie on DVD, with commentary from _actual naval aviators,_ (at least one _WITH_ MiG kills), and they say that celebrations like that _DID happen,_ especially after a MiG kill.
I love “Top Gun”. Must have seen it 100 times. It’s too bad. Hollywood and Wolfman had to take the first missile when the action started when they had just as much training as everybody else. So much for their role in the movie. For sure they wouldn’t have been lined up for a quick kill shot in reality after just graduating Top Gun.
One thing that always gets me in these movies. Our guys get hit with a missile, the wing blows off, and they eject into the ocean. We hit them, they blow up from the middle, no ejection.
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Harriers were not standard shipborne aircraft on carriers. The USMC had them on helicarriers to support amhibious force but not the navy. Besides Harriers are not a top line fighter and would have a hard time holding it's own vs front line Migs. Even using tricks like VIFF maneuvers not a good choice.
The Navy quit using port and starboard for directions/locations before this movie came out. They were still using p/s when I went through AIC school in 1981, but changed to left/right by 1986. OSCS (SW) USN RET'D 1978-2002 AIC/S 1981-2002
The “catapults are not functional” is complete B.S. Will never happen in a “real world” scenario. The whole movie, dialogue, storyline, and acting, are totally cringeworthy.
The US doesn't own MiGs so getting footage of them to put into a movie wasn't going to happen. The F-5 was about as comparable as you could get to a MiG in our aerial arsenal.
Actually, U.S. owned MIGS for years before this movie was filmed. However, since they were kept airworthy by every way possible, they were not available for something like this.
F-5 aircraft were dependable & great for getting off the ground and up in a hurry. Way past when the US Air Force was going to the F-16, countries like Denmark and such continued to use them for years and beating the US in competitions at Nellis AFB.
I spent some time years ago at Fallon, as an outside hvac vendor, they had 2 all black F5s with a red star on their tails, near the control tower. There was also a quad GSU AA out front of the tower.
7:26 both engines functioning? Ice just shut down his right jet…. Misquote? Take only a few seconds ( in the movies) to spin up a jet engine, especially after being damaged enough to “shut it down” ?
I don't care what anyone says when you fly through jet wash and then happen to recover from it its shake anyone up, I'm sure everyone has had close calls in life and that is Life Experience.
Yes it was and majority of the talent came from Canada after the stupid government cancelled the alto arrow which would have been better than any other fighter plan at that time.
Way too much talk for F-14 pilots who are way more focused, and would have intercepted the bogies at least 300-400 miles away from the carrier at a distance of 40 miles minimum, avoiding a dog fight at all costs!!
When I was on the Enterprise and this movie came on all the pilots would constantly shout BS at the errors. It was hilarious.
Thank you for your service sir!👍
Thank you for your service! That's movie magic for ya!
Just medical people do when movies they shock flat line
Like watching all the "lost in the woods" scenes in "The Blair Witch Project" in a PX theater full of Ranger tabs.
This movie came out when I was a young boy, I really looked up to all of you in the Navy! Such a powerful military force!
Its funny how Iceman won TopGun, but in a real dog fight he damn near shits his pants. Great save Maverick..
I mean 6 verses 1 before Mav got on station lol
Facts
Well, to be fair, he was outnumbered SIX to one, as he said over the radio, he was completely defensive despite trying to engage them a few times. The fact he survived at all is a testament to his skill. Maverick was the one who was panicking or rather being overly cautious because of the death of Goose and getting caught in the MiG's jetwash only served to make him re-live that moment. Granted, once he overcame it and re-engaged, he helped level the playing field, which allowed Iceman to score a kill of his own before his F-14 got damaged and he lost some of his agility.
6 on 1, at 1 point 4 on his tail, Ice shouldnt of even still been in the air before Mav got there, he should of been splashed
Also remember after Goose died he was not really trying and lost alot of points in Top Gun
Launch Maverick on Alert 5!!!! Best decision the Skipper ever made!!!
Should have already been airborn.
@@michaeledlin9995 You might be right, but the MiG pilots were using a tactic of flying in extremely close formation so as to disguise their individual radar signatures (foreshadowed at the very beginning when Jaguar lost his nerve). Sending out 2 F-14s to engage 2 MiGs, whose intentions were unknown, was a logical if possibly overconfident call. Once all six were revealed and their intentions shown to be very hostile, then Maverick, who was in reserve/on standby, was launched. They tried to launch another F-14 as well, but the catapults broke after launching Maverick.
@@WaterCranewho is “Jaguar”?
Opening scene (beginning of the movie): “Cougar” & ”Merlin”, “Maverick” & “Goose”
This scene: “Hollywood” & ”Wolfman”, “Iceman” & ”Slider”, “Maverick” & “Merlin”
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I'm bringing him in closer Merlin, YOUR GONNA DO WHAT!
Always loved that line myself. 😂😂😂
@@am5p8 Me, too! Merlin's eyes looked like they were gonna bug _RIGHT OUT OF HIS HEAD!_
And then Merlin gets caught for a crime he didn't commit, and spends nearly 20 years digging a tunnel.
Well, as Heater had to remind the real Navy pilots, they were making a movie for movie goers, not the Navy.
Iceman did some a great job against 6 while waiting for backup.
1985 or 1986 this one of my beloved scene watch it all over again up to this year 2024 if i watch it its giving goosebump and schill all over my body and especially my soul
"3 migs dead ahead, coming down the left side. I'm going after them."
Love that!
When the RIO turned his head to watch the 3 Migs, he had my dad's squadron insignia on his helmet....VA25 Fist of the Fleet
Great scene from the movie!! It never gets old!
Actualy it gets very old. Can't stand to watch this movie anymore, and I am a Tomcat fan.
"I'm engaging five, repeat five, i'm in deep shit." Badass Icemannnnnn
2:19. Who cares what the RIO says?
Supposed to be the best, he flies ice cold, he sure was a scared little thing. Begging for help from someone he looked down on.
In a 5:1 fight he would have lasted less then a minute. BTW, notice the lack of use of countermeasures? No chaff, no flares.
As a former pilot in the Air Force, every time I watch Maverick launch here I find myself saying go get ya some boy.........
Everytime I watch it, I know they'd lauch 5 fighters.
As a former pilot, I say go get your shine box.
I never get tired of seeing those big, beautiful Tomcats screaming through the air in that giant furball (dogfight)
Legend movie and soundtrack! Only way to play is loud!
I know it’s a few years early, but those flares from the second film would have come in handy.
Goddamn this is still one of the best friggin movies! Saw it in the theater at the old AMC 6 Mira Mesa, just a couple miles from the north gate on Miramar Road. Seeing the OG Fightertown USA hangar and the NAS Miramar-Fightertown USA caption cross the screen drew a cheer in the theater you could probably hear on the damn base! And the F-14 will always be my all-time favorite airframe! Was so freaking pumped when Mav and Rooster got eyes on the Tomcat in the hangar in TG:Maverick!
Any one notice that Iceman only gets one kill, that whole final Dog fight, while Maverick gets the rest? Some Winner of the TOPGUN trophy ICEMAN is 🤣
For the start of the fight, after losing Hollywood (if the start of the film was anything to go by, they weren't allowed to fire unless fired upon). Iceman had to defend himself against six MiGs. He did try to engage them at one point but was completely defensive and was just trying to survive until Maverick showed up. Iceman did get a kill but was blindsided by a MiG that shot up his right engine which removed a great deal of power and agility. Sometimes circumstances don't play in your favour.
@@WaterCrane The orders for this mission were, "If you _witness a hostile act, you will return fire."_ Since Hollywood and Wolfman had been shot down, I _THINK_ that qualified as a 'hostile act.'
*BOTH* Catapults are broken? Enterprise-class carriers have *FOUR* catapults, so they still should have been able to launch at least two additional fighters. I understand that was used for dramatic effect, though.
Was stationed on the Big E I know
It’s a movie 😂
@@mikeullery6754 I actually made the same comment. I _KNOW_ it's a movie.
Depends on if there was aircraft stacked on the bow cats in order to keep the aft deck clear for aircraft recovery's and launching of the alert 5 aircraft.
@@skyshunk88 Very true.
"Excuse me, is there something I should know about?"
"Nah.... You'll get the hang of it" 🤣
wow I haven't seen that scene in 30 years but its still awsome
Of course you haven't… the film is not even 30 years old yet.
I have watched this movie at least a thousand times and that is no exaggeration, and I never caught Maverick crying at the 34 second mark until just now
In Top Gun: Launch Maverick on Alert 5!!!!
In Top Gun 2: Launch Hangman on Alert 5!!!!
Actually, Hangman _REQUESTED_ to launch, but was _DENIED,_ since there were bandits in the air.
"Dagger Spare, request permission to _launch and fly air cover!"_ (Hangman)
"Negative! Not with _bandits in the air!"_ (Admiral Simpson)
RIP the big cat as the men who flew her and ppl like me who know all about her would one last time babe
YOU ARE GOING TO DO WHAT? Best line ever lol
3.27 has to be one of the greatest pieces of hollywood footage ever 😮😮😮😮
well its more like 3:23 being the scene of the melee of planes, but yes it a beautifully frame.
2:24 the easiest way to dodge enemy 23mm is to do a spiffy aileron role. Looks so cool!
No.
Your right. They are not Migs. They are F-5's. Were used as aggressors during training excercises due to their manuverability being very similar to many of the Russian Mig fighters.
The F-5 had similar performance to the MiG-21, which at the time (and still is) was the most widely-exported fighter jet. You were more likely to fight against a MiG-21 than any other fighter. The MiG-21 is used by more air forces than any other fighter jet.
And where are you getting that an Su-24 could compare with an F-14? The Su-24 was an attack aircraft and not a fighter; in a dogfight an F-14 would easily destroy it and all cruise missiles that the Fencer would launch.
Cool to see and thanks for serving our country
Would have launched them on cats 1 and 2 and Maverick would have moved into cat 1 right after.
Soooo maybe say his plane rudder or a hydraulic was malfunctioning and let him move over to another Tomcat that was not ready for launch. Pull out a reserve fighter on cat 2 and then that fixes all this cat stuff…
But what we can do is let the producers read this comment and add this scenario to TopGun 3
Maverick’s fighter is down so he has to take out the “experimental one” to save everyone…
The “drone fighter” is sitting with a malfunction in the remote system so Maverick has to “override it manually” and takes of in the drone fighter.
Showing that a man in the cockpit is the best weapon you will ever have.
And??? Maverick is the ultimate weapon to have at your disposal…
And I’ll be happy when they give me the credit for it.
I guess that makes sense. The bottom line, though, is it's only a movie, and I'm thinking too much! :)
“Launch maverick on alert 5” has to be some Ace Combat code
I was in the Air Force when I saw this movie. I had to continue to remind myself it's a fiction movie, not a documentary. Of course, in real life, the E2C Hawkeye would have tracked and identified all aggressor aircraft. And even without Mig Cap F-14s the missile cruisers with the carriers would have easily eliminated the threat with SM2 missiles. I loved the movie.
TOMCATS! This is perfectly titled.
The instructor said the US has a 12 to 1 kill ratio. Five should be a walk in the park!
Exactly, for a supposed badass
The instructor also said that that kill ratio had dropped to 3 to 1 since the Vietnam War because their pilots had learnt to rely too much on missiles and had lost some of the old dogfighting skill with guns and close-range fighting, and TOPGUN was to help change that.
"Bullshit 10 minutes this thing will be over in 2 minutes, get on it"! Stinger knew his men we're in trouble and didn't want to waste time!
In the cutscene he goes in a tirade: Slackers, you in the catapult are a bunch of slackers like Marty & his father !
When you are the alert 5 reaction is the action with effective response the action which saves lives and neutralizes the threat
That celebration on the flight deck would have never happened !.
I have the movie on DVD, with commentary from _actual naval aviators,_ (at least one _WITH_ MiG kills), and they say that celebrations like that _DID happen,_ especially after a MiG kill.
Definitely my all time most favourite movie.
I love “Top Gun”. Must have seen it 100 times. It’s too bad. Hollywood and Wolfman had to take the first missile when the action started when they had just as much training as everybody else. So much for their role in the movie. For sure they wouldn’t have been lined up for a quick kill shot in reality after just graduating Top Gun.
One thing that always gets me in these movies. Our guys get hit with a missile, the wing blows off, and they eject into the ocean. We hit them, they blow up from the middle, no ejection.
I went to war in 1991. It ain't all that. I served 3 years and got the f*** out. That ain't a way to live a long life.
TopGun is my childhood movie
Air Land and Sea!!! Navy all the way!! It is not just a job its a adventure
That Carrier gets very small very quickly.
Both engine are functional even as Hollywood just shut one down 😅 30 sec ago
All systems are functioning not engines and it was slider not Hollywood!
I showed the shiriffs when they visited me the location of my leaching field for my septic system
One way in one way out
Use caution of the path
Still under
Construction at a quantum heat level
You're gonna do WHAT!?!
I would pay money to see this in the theatres again…
Best movie of all time.
Amazing how F5s look so much more threatening all in black...and still scarier than any real MiG
Both catapults broken?! Launch the Harrier Jump Jets!
They have 4 catapults? 2 on the bow, 2 more on the port side!
Harriers were not standard shipborne aircraft on carriers. The USMC had them on helicarriers to support amhibious force but not the navy. Besides Harriers are not a top line fighter and would have a hard time holding it's own vs front line Migs. Even using tricks like VIFF maneuvers not a good choice.
Remember, if you are a US Naval Aviator then you have to say everything twice. “I got tone… I got tone…”
“Banking left… banking left…” just in case you don’t know what is going on.
Just like when I talk to your girlfriend she always says what....so I have to say it twice.
THANK YOU U.S NAVY AMÉN
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Damn slackers can't get the catapults working faster than in 10 minutes?
Slim Charles slack jawed
No kidding
the officer says "both catapults" are broken, but the carrier has three... but it makes for a dramatic moment
@@Defender78 4 catapults actually, not 3. Cats 3 and 4 intersect though at the angled deck so can't launch near simultaneous.
Mig-28 Aka F-5 Freedom Fighter
I've always wondered why they never popped flares.
Just to see tomcats flying makes this a fav.
Especially that radar with a 360 degree sweep completely incorrect, you think they would have tried for a little more authenticity. 😮😮😮😮😮
Maverick, what a great call name
Actions makes me feel brand new
Today I saw 5 kids play
On one piano
At first I saw four kids
Then I said, WOW THEY R FIVE ! ! ! !
anyone know the launch scene song at 1:30?
Ice: I’m on your left side
Starboard: am I a joke to you?
The Navy quit using port and starboard for directions/locations before this movie came out. They were still using p/s when I went through AIC school in 1981, but changed to left/right by 1986. OSCS (SW) USN RET'D 1978-2002 AIC/S 1981-2002
My fav movie of all time! Top Gun Maverick is a close second tho...
No countermeasures in 1983 😂
Why do the enemy pilots have better helmets?
Me gustan más esos cascos que el de los estadunidenses saludos 👍👋
Get into a dogfight with 2 external fuel tanks, good move maverick.
Bid commercial to join the navy. Too bad they didn't have this back in 1973.
I am glad tom cruise made the decision to bring in the real air crafts instead of this in the sequel
Also, piss-take aside. If this movie happened, we would not be here. This is a declaration of war
How did both catapults get broken on 3 launches
for the script.
Especially when there are 4 cats on a carrier.
@@patrickmccrann991 sounds like captain baldy is running a pretty loose ship then.
@@jaredpaynter4140 He isn't the Captain. Air Wing commander.
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It's funny how all the aerial shots and deck shots of the carrier, you never see any of her battle group.
Does anyone know the drum song at 07:43 ???
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Es correcto, los portaaviones cuentan con cuatro catapultas. Además, pudieron haber lanzados aviones en parejas; no solamente a Maverick...
We own MiGs, thats for damn sure. But they won't be loaning them out to movie studios.
The “catapults are not functional” is complete B.S. Will never happen in a “real world” scenario.
The whole movie, dialogue, storyline, and acting, are totally cringeworthy.
Iranian F-5's vs. American F-14's. Could've happened. 🤷😏
LT? yes sir. Do you what to be LCD?
Admiral> Thank you.
Crazy how the migs bugged out when they ran out of missiles
I tend to think that Hollywood and Wolfman are pilots from Iran
Commander, USNY.
locked on, 4000.
The US doesn't own MiGs so getting footage of them to put into a movie wasn't going to happen. The F-5 was about as comparable as you could get to a MiG in our aerial arsenal.
Actually, U.S. owned MIGS for years before this movie was filmed. However, since they were kept airworthy by every way possible, they were not available for something like this.
F-5 aircraft were dependable & great for getting off the ground and up in a hurry. Way past when the US Air Force was going to the F-16, countries like Denmark and such continued to use them for years and beating the US in competitions at Nellis AFB.
the kitty cat would have had pheonix
Ridicolus film😂😂😂😂
F5 Tiger =mig 😂😂😂😂
F14 slow slow slow 😂😂😂
Tom Cruise so funny
Specificly F5E models As used by the Naval fighter Weapons school For dissimilar air to air combat
DruidicRifleman And 1 F-5F.
I spent some time years ago at Fallon, as an outside hvac vendor, they had 2 all black F5s with a red star on their tails, near the control tower. There was also a quad GSU AA out front of the tower.
IM NOT LEAVING MY WIGMAN
I heard there were alot of things totally illegal in the Navy.
They were combat veterans of the Iran-Iraq War, actually.
Mm let me do what I do, maverick!
Why'd you clip off the fly by..... come on, man......
7:26 both engines functioning? Ice just shut down his right jet…. Misquote? Take only a few seconds ( in the movies) to spin up a jet engine, especially after being damaged enough to “shut it down” ?
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I don't care what anyone says when you fly through jet wash and then happen to recover from it its shake anyone up, I'm sure everyone has had close calls in life and that is Life Experience.
I cant find her.
"i,m tacking the lead".
F14 best fighter jet ever
Yes it was and majority of the talent came from Canada after the stupid government cancelled the alto arrow which would have been better than any other fighter plan at that time.
Sexiest one for sure
Yes and the fastest ever 160 miles in 30 sec that make them flying with 8500 meters per second which is 26 times speed of the sound
Can you defend?
Way too much talk for F-14 pilots who are way more focused, and would have intercepted the bogies at least 300-400 miles away from the carrier at a distance of 40 miles minimum, avoiding a dog fight at all costs!!