@@michaeledlin9995 You might be right, but the MiG pilots were using a tactic of flying in extremely close formation so as to disguise their individual radar signatures (foreshadowed at the very beginning when Jaguar lost his nerve). Sending out 2 F-14s to engage 2 MiGs, whose intentions were unknown, was a logical if possibly overconfident call. Once all six were revealed and their intentions shown to be very hostile, then Maverick, who was in reserve/on standby, was launched. They tried to launch another F-14 as well, but the catapults broke after launching Maverick.
Well, to be fair, he was outnumbered SIX to one, as he said over the radio, he was completely defensive despite trying to engage them a few times. The fact he survived at all is a testament to his skill. Maverick was the one who was panicking or rather being overly cautious because of the death of Goose and getting caught in the MiG's jetwash only served to make him re-live that moment. Granted, once he overcame it and re-engaged, he helped level the playing field, which allowed Iceman to score a kill of his own before his F-14 got damaged and he lost some of his agility.
1985 or 1986 this one of my beloved scene watch it all over again up to this year 2024 if i watch it its giving goosebump and schill all over my body and especially my soul
*BOTH* Catapults are broken? Enterprise-class carriers have *FOUR* catapults, so they still should have been able to launch at least two additional fighters. I understand that was used for dramatic effect, though.
Depends on if there was aircraft stacked on the bow cats in order to keep the aft deck clear for aircraft recovery's and launching of the alert 5 aircraft.
well its more like 3:23 being the scene of the melee of planes, but yes it a beautifully frame. 2:24 the easiest way to dodge enemy 23mm is to do a spiffy aileron role. Looks so cool!
Your right. They are not Migs. They are F-5's. Were used as aggressors during training excercises due to their manuverability being very similar to many of the Russian Mig fighters.
The F-5 had similar performance to the MiG-21, which at the time (and still is) was the most widely-exported fighter jet. You were more likely to fight against a MiG-21 than any other fighter. The MiG-21 is used by more air forces than any other fighter jet. And where are you getting that an Su-24 could compare with an F-14? The Su-24 was an attack aircraft and not a fighter; in a dogfight an F-14 would easily destroy it and all cruise missiles that the Fencer would launch.
For the start of the fight, after losing Hollywood (if the start of the film was anything to go by, they weren't allowed to fire unless fired upon). Iceman had to defend himself against six MiGs. He did try to engage them at one point but was completely defensive and was just trying to survive until Maverick showed up. Iceman did get a kill but was blindsided by a MiG that shot up his right engine which removed a great deal of power and agility. Sometimes circumstances don't play in your favour.
@@WaterCrane The orders for this mission were, "If you _witness a hostile act, you will return fire."_ Since Hollywood and Wolfman had been shot down, I _THINK_ that qualified as a 'hostile act.'
I love “Top Gun”. Must have seen it 100 times. It’s too bad. Hollywood and Wolfman had to take the first missile when the action started when they had just as much training as everybody else. So much for their role in the movie. For sure they wouldn’t have been lined up for a quick kill shot in reality after just graduating Top Gun.
The Navy quit using port and starboard for directions/locations before this movie came out. They were still using p/s when I went through AIC school in 1981, but changed to left/right by 1986. OSCS (SW) USN RET'D 1978-2002 AIC/S 1981-2002
Would have launched them on cats 1 and 2 and Maverick would have moved into cat 1 right after. Soooo maybe say his plane rudder or a hydraulic was malfunctioning and let him move over to another Tomcat that was not ready for launch. Pull out a reserve fighter on cat 2 and then that fixes all this cat stuff… But what we can do is let the producers read this comment and add this scenario to TopGun 3 Maverick’s fighter is down so he has to take out the “experimental one” to save everyone… The “drone fighter” is sitting with a malfunction in the remote system so Maverick has to “override it manually” and takes of in the drone fighter. Showing that a man in the cockpit is the best weapon you will ever have. And??? Maverick is the ultimate weapon to have at your disposal… And I’ll be happy when they give me the credit for it.
The instructor also said that that kill ratio had dropped to 3 to 1 since the Vietnam War because their pilots had learnt to rely too much on missiles and had lost some of the old dogfighting skill with guns and close-range fighting, and TOPGUN was to help change that.
Harriers were not standard shipborne aircraft on carriers. The USMC had them on helicarriers to support amhibious force but not the navy. Besides Harriers are not a top line fighter and would have a hard time holding it's own vs front line Migs. Even using tricks like VIFF maneuvers not a good choice.
The “catapults are not functional” is complete B.S. Will never happen in a “real world” scenario. The whole movie, dialogue, storyline, and acting, are totally cringeworthy.
I spent some time years ago at Fallon, as an outside hvac vendor, they had 2 all black F5s with a red star on their tails, near the control tower. There was also a quad GSU AA out front of the tower.
The US doesn't own MiGs so getting footage of them to put into a movie wasn't going to happen. The F-5 was about as comparable as you could get to a MiG in our aerial arsenal.
Actually, U.S. owned MIGS for years before this movie was filmed. However, since they were kept airworthy by every way possible, they were not available for something like this.
F-5 aircraft were dependable & great for getting off the ground and up in a hurry. Way past when the US Air Force was going to the F-16, countries like Denmark and such continued to use them for years and beating the US in competitions at Nellis AFB.
Yes it was and majority of the talent came from Canada after the stupid government cancelled the alto arrow which would have been better than any other fighter plan at that time.
7:26 both engines functioning? Ice just shut down his right jet…. Misquote? Take only a few seconds ( in the movies) to spin up a jet engine, especially after being damaged enough to “shut it down” ?
Good film but total Hollywood bullshit. 'I am not leaving my wingman'. Maveric was the wingman, Ice was the lead aircraft. Topgun 2 was pants. More bollocks. It was of its time. Good old 80s .
Movies that day were using actual jets. Eventhough the US did have migs, they weren't allowed to be use for filming. So they use F5 as Mig, just like Tom Cruise as Maverick. Another film as Iron Eagle also use Kfir as Mig23 and F4 as Mig29. But nowadays we use CGI, so there'r no model limitation.
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Launch Maverick on Alert 5!!!! Best decision the Skipper ever made!!!
Should have already been airborn.
@@michaeledlin9995 You might be right, but the MiG pilots were using a tactic of flying in extremely close formation so as to disguise their individual radar signatures (foreshadowed at the very beginning when Jaguar lost his nerve). Sending out 2 F-14s to engage 2 MiGs, whose intentions were unknown, was a logical if possibly overconfident call. Once all six were revealed and their intentions shown to be very hostile, then Maverick, who was in reserve/on standby, was launched. They tried to launch another F-14 as well, but the catapults broke after launching Maverick.
@@WaterCranewho is “Jaguar”?
Opening scene (beginning of the movie): “Cougar” & ”Merlin”, “Maverick” & “Goose”
This scene: “Hollywood” & ”Wolfman”, “Iceman” & ”Slider”, “Maverick” & “Merlin”
"3 migs dead ahead, coming down the left side. I'm going after them."
Love that!
When the RIO turned his head to watch the 3 Migs, he had my dad's squadron insignia on his helmet....VA25 Fist of the Fleet
I'm bringing him in closer Merlin, YOUR GONNA DO WHAT!
Always loved that line myself. 😂😂😂
@@am5p8 Me, too! Merlin's eyes looked like they were gonna bug _RIGHT OUT OF HIS HEAD!_
Its funny how Iceman won TopGun, but in a real dog fight he damn near shits his pants. Great save Maverick..
I mean 6 verses 1 before Mav got on station lol
Facts
Well, to be fair, he was outnumbered SIX to one, as he said over the radio, he was completely defensive despite trying to engage them a few times. The fact he survived at all is a testament to his skill. Maverick was the one who was panicking or rather being overly cautious because of the death of Goose and getting caught in the MiG's jetwash only served to make him re-live that moment. Granted, once he overcame it and re-engaged, he helped level the playing field, which allowed Iceman to score a kill of his own before his F-14 got damaged and he lost some of his agility.
When I was on the Enterprise and this movie came on all the pilots would constantly shout BS at the errors. It was hilarious.
Thank you for your service sir!👍
Thank you for your service! That's movie magic for ya!
Just medical people do when movies they shock flat line
Like watching all the "lost in the woods" scenes in "The Blair Witch Project" in a PX theater full of Ranger tabs.
This movie came out when I was a young boy, I really looked up to all of you in the Navy! Such a powerful military force!
Well, as Heater had to remind the real Navy pilots, they were making a movie for movie goers, not the Navy.
"I'm engaging five, repeat five, i'm in deep shit." Badass Icemannnnnn
2:19. Who cares what the RIO says?
Supposed to be the best, he flies ice cold, he sure was a scared little thing. Begging for help from someone he looked down on.
In a 5:1 fight he would have lasted less then a minute. BTW, notice the lack of use of countermeasures? No chaff, no flares.
As a former pilot in the Air Force, every time I watch Maverick launch here I find myself saying go get ya some boy.........
Legend movie and soundtrack! Only way to play is loud!
1985 or 1986 this one of my beloved scene watch it all over again up to this year 2024 if i watch it its giving goosebump and schill all over my body and especially my soul
I know it’s a few years early, but those flares from the second film would have come in handy.
Iceman did some a great job against 6 while waiting for backup.
Great scene from the movie!! It never gets old!
Actualy it gets very old. Can't stand to watch this movie anymore, and I am a Tomcat fan.
*BOTH* Catapults are broken? Enterprise-class carriers have *FOUR* catapults, so they still should have been able to launch at least two additional fighters. I understand that was used for dramatic effect, though.
Was stationed on the Big E I know
It’s a movie 😂
@@mikeullery6754 I actually made the same comment. I _KNOW_ it's a movie.
Depends on if there was aircraft stacked on the bow cats in order to keep the aft deck clear for aircraft recovery's and launching of the alert 5 aircraft.
@@skyshunk88 Very true.
3.27 has to be one of the greatest pieces of hollywood footage ever 😮😮😮😮
well its more like 3:23 being the scene of the melee of planes, but yes it a beautifully frame.
2:24 the easiest way to dodge enemy 23mm is to do a spiffy aileron role. Looks so cool!
No.
Your right. They are not Migs. They are F-5's. Were used as aggressors during training excercises due to their manuverability being very similar to many of the Russian Mig fighters.
RIP the big cat as the men who flew her and ppl like me who know all about her would one last time babe
Air Land and Sea!!! Navy all the way!! It is not just a job its a adventure
YOU ARE GOING TO DO WHAT? Best line ever lol
The F-5 had similar performance to the MiG-21, which at the time (and still is) was the most widely-exported fighter jet. You were more likely to fight against a MiG-21 than any other fighter. The MiG-21 is used by more air forces than any other fighter jet.
And where are you getting that an Su-24 could compare with an F-14? The Su-24 was an attack aircraft and not a fighter; in a dogfight an F-14 would easily destroy it and all cruise missiles that the Fencer would launch.
Any one notice that Iceman only gets one kill, that whole Dog fight, while Maverick gets the rest? Some Winner of the TOPGUN trophy ICEMAN is 🤣
For the start of the fight, after losing Hollywood (if the start of the film was anything to go by, they weren't allowed to fire unless fired upon). Iceman had to defend himself against six MiGs. He did try to engage them at one point but was completely defensive and was just trying to survive until Maverick showed up. Iceman did get a kill but was blindsided by a MiG that shot up his right engine which removed a great deal of power and agility. Sometimes circumstances don't play in your favour.
@@WaterCrane The orders for this mission were, "If you _witness a hostile act, you will return fire."_ Since Hollywood and Wolfman had been shot down, I _THINK_ that qualified as a 'hostile act.'
wow I haven't seen that scene in 30 years but its still awsome
Of course you haven't… the film is not even 30 years old yet.
I love “Top Gun”. Must have seen it 100 times. It’s too bad. Hollywood and Wolfman had to take the first missile when the action started when they had just as much training as everybody else. So much for their role in the movie. For sure they wouldn’t have been lined up for a quick kill shot in reality after just graduating Top Gun.
Mig-28 Aka F-5 Freedom Fighter
I guess that makes sense. The bottom line, though, is it's only a movie, and I'm thinking too much! :)
THANK YOU U.S NAVY AMÉN
I went to war in 1991. It ain't all that. I served 3 years and got the f*** out. That ain't a way to live a long life.
Cool to see and thanks for serving our country
“Launch maverick on alert 5” has to be some Ace Combat code
In Top Gun: Launch Maverick on Alert 5!!!!
In Top Gun 2: Launch Hangman on Alert 5!!!!
Just to see tomcats flying makes this a fav.
Ice: I’m on your left side
Starboard: am I a joke to you?
The Navy quit using port and starboard for directions/locations before this movie came out. They were still using p/s when I went through AIC school in 1981, but changed to left/right by 1986. OSCS (SW) USN RET'D 1978-2002 AIC/S 1981-2002
You're gonna do WHAT!?!
Would have launched them on cats 1 and 2 and Maverick would have moved into cat 1 right after.
Soooo maybe say his plane rudder or a hydraulic was malfunctioning and let him move over to another Tomcat that was not ready for launch. Pull out a reserve fighter on cat 2 and then that fixes all this cat stuff…
But what we can do is let the producers read this comment and add this scenario to TopGun 3
Maverick’s fighter is down so he has to take out the “experimental one” to save everyone…
The “drone fighter” is sitting with a malfunction in the remote system so Maverick has to “override it manually” and takes of in the drone fighter.
Showing that a man in the cockpit is the best weapon you will ever have.
And??? Maverick is the ultimate weapon to have at your disposal…
And I’ll be happy when they give me the credit for it.
"Oh my gawd."
I love this ost on that fighter scramble and fight scene musicing🎉 Can anyone teach me what is this ost title❤
Maverick, what a great call name
That Carrier gets very small very quickly.
anyone know the launch scene song at 1:30?
Both engine are functional even as Hollywood just shut one down 😅 30 sec ago
All systems are functioning not engines and it was slider not Hollywood!
Why do the enemy pilots have better helmets?
Definitely my all time most favourite movie.
The instructor said the US has a 12 to 1 kill ratio. Five should be a walk in the park!
Exactly, for a supposed badass
The instructor also said that that kill ratio had dropped to 3 to 1 since the Vietnam War because their pilots had learnt to rely too much on missiles and had lost some of the old dogfighting skill with guns and close-range fighting, and TOPGUN was to help change that.
Damn slackers can't get the catapults working faster than in 10 minutes?
Slim Charles slack jawed
No kidding
the officer says "both catapults" are broken, but the carrier has three... but it makes for a dramatic moment
@@Defender78 4 catapults actually, not 3. Cats 3 and 4 intersect though at the angled deck so can't launch near simultaneous.
TOMCATS! This is perfectly titled.
Best movie of all time.
Why'd you clip off the fly by..... come on, man......
TopGun is my childhood movie
Both catapults broken?! Launch the Harrier Jump Jets!
They have 4 catapults? 2 on the bow, 2 more on the port side!
Harriers were not standard shipborne aircraft on carriers. The USMC had them on helicarriers to support amhibious force but not the navy. Besides Harriers are not a top line fighter and would have a hard time holding it's own vs front line Migs. Even using tricks like VIFF maneuvers not a good choice.
確かミグの使用許可が降りなくて、代わりにF-5Eを用いてミグの代わりにしたんだよな。
The “catapults are not functional” is complete B.S. Will never happen in a “real world” scenario.
The whole movie, dialogue, storyline, and acting, are totally cringeworthy.
Get into a dogfight with 2 external fuel tanks, good move maverick.
Big commercial to join the Navy😊
Specificly F5E models As used by the Naval fighter Weapons school For dissimilar air to air combat
DruidicRifleman And 1 F-5F.
I spent some time years ago at Fallon, as an outside hvac vendor, they had 2 all black F5s with a red star on their tails, near the control tower. There was also a quad GSU AA out front of the tower.
We own MiGs, thats for damn sure. But they won't be loaning them out to movie studios.
Why did he wait that long to launch the other planes?
Does anyone know the drum song at 07:43 ???
darude sandstorm
Es correcto, los portaaviones cuentan con cuatro catapultas. Además, pudieron haber lanzados aviones en parejas; no solamente a Maverick...
IM NOT LEAVING MY WIGMAN
1:40 Soooo fucking baddas movements
What about the phoenix Missiles..
The US doesn't own MiGs so getting footage of them to put into a movie wasn't going to happen. The F-5 was about as comparable as you could get to a MiG in our aerial arsenal.
Actually, U.S. owned MIGS for years before this movie was filmed. However, since they were kept airworthy by every way possible, they were not available for something like this.
F-5 aircraft were dependable & great for getting off the ground and up in a hurry. Way past when the US Air Force was going to the F-16, countries like Denmark and such continued to use them for years and beating the US in competitions at Nellis AFB.
F14 best fighter jet ever
Yes it was and majority of the talent came from Canada after the stupid government cancelled the alto arrow which would have been better than any other fighter plan at that time.
Iranian F-5's vs. American F-14's. Could've happened. 🤷😏
I tend to think that Hollywood and Wolfman are pilots from Iran
They were combat veterans of the Iran-Iraq War, actually.
Sooo, no countermeasures in 1985?
Also, piss-take aside. If this movie happened, we would not be here. This is a declaration of war
7:26 both engines functioning? Ice just shut down his right jet…. Misquote? Take only a few seconds ( in the movies) to spin up a jet engine, especially after being damaged enough to “shut it down” ?
Bullshit ten minutes! This thing will be over in two minutes, get on it!
Remember, if you are a US Naval Aviator then you have to say everything twice. “I got tone… I got tone…”
“Banking left… banking left…” just in case you don’t know what is going on.
Just like when I talk to your girlfriend she always says what....so I have to say it twice.
I am glad tom cruise made the decision to bring in the real air crafts instead of this in the sequel
We were able to kick the asses of MiG-29s in real combat in the first Gulf War. Remember that.
Air airwolf was here
How did both catapults get broken on 3 launches
for the script.
Especially when there are 4 cats on a carrier.
@@patrickmccrann991 sounds like captain baldy is running a pretty loose ship then.
@@jaredpaynter4140 He isn't the Captain. Air Wing commander.
And why in this movie they didn't use flares ...
Thats not migs. these things are northrop f5 tiger
Oberst Struppi Well, during the Cold War, the Soviets wouldn't have been so willing to loan their actual MiGs to the US for a propaganda film.
Viper like a tree
Junta muchos porque romántico meda pena
Go getem mav dont think do
Great job mav
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they actually aren't, they are very similar though, look it up
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The Iraqi pilots were badly trained. Our pilots could just line up and blast them out of the sky.
Why they choose the well known F5 an outstanding fighter in its own right as a decoy? Cheesy
They couldn’t get their hands on any real MIGs, so they painted some F5s black and called them MIGs for the purpose of the movie.
Smoking in the boys room..,.
Say no to war
They say cats 3 and 4 so ?
MEGA USA WANK.
It’s a movie just for fun.
1:28 to 2:02 guves
Kinda zoning out struggling and finally made up his mind, 5 seconds later, blew up a plane. Overpowered...?
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Its mustang this os vodoo 3 the remaining mIgs are bugging out for me
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Migs would have never got in range subs and destroyers dont play that
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Good film but total Hollywood bullshit. 'I am not leaving my wingman'. Maveric was the wingman, Ice was the lead aircraft. Topgun 2 was pants. More bollocks. It was of its time. Good old 80s .
Those are not migs they are
F-5
Movies that day were using actual jets. Eventhough the US did have migs, they weren't allowed to be use for filming.
So they use F5 as Mig, just like Tom Cruise as Maverick.
Another film as Iron Eagle also use Kfir as Mig23 and F4 as Mig29.
But nowadays we use CGI, so there'r no model limitation.