S22 Rider, Batch 1. I have my Motor stator pinned, installing the CNC slider mod, Shinko 244 Wheel installed. Without a battery size increase having a 4000w motor is basically pointless. The "PRO" improvements were 100% necessary though. The most recent firmware update was noticeable improvement in torque and stability. Riding this wheel is an absolute blast! Guess I was KingsSong's "Beta Bitch" this time around lol No regrets!
I agree just had my motor swapped to the zq3300 I think, the 4k motor is not needed. What burns my ass is I got it a day before canada day last year and its been in and out of eevees ever since. The pro releases and for me to attain the upgrades its no longer a 4500 cad device its a 7000 cad device to put it in a proper euc. These companies need to do better kingsong fked me for the last time never kingsong again.
@SwitchUpYt when I got mine back from the motor swap I takin for a ride, I got knocking from the bearings. Had to slightly loosen, then screws around motor and hit it with a mallet. I'm waiting to see what else fails I have around 2k km it's been in repair more then on the road. Don't get me wrong when this euc is 100 percent probably one of the best out there. The ride is stable and feels great. The least that kingsong can do is make my first batch what the pro is now. They lost a customer.
CNC slider mod makes this thing a whole new euc. Eats up roots and rocks and uneven ground like a Cadillac. Put my new motor in (had knocking that got really loud and constant on old one), and at around 50ish miles started getting knocking sound again. Only when euc is on and powered, and kinda random at slow speeds and constant at higher. My favorite euc over my other 2 (v12ht and master) eucs when I'm not wondering if I'm about to lose my front teeth.
Man I was kicking myself when I first heard about the pro version. Then I put my s22 up for sale, but now I'm having second thoughts. I have the october batch, suspension doesn't rebound after a week of riding(anyone know a temporary easy solution without disassembling?), but other than that the wheel is fine. New suspension will be a must have, but it would be just a pretty cheap upgrade for the old s22, and I'm not sure if the more expensive pro version would be worth it for the other upgrades. What is there to be gained from having a slightly bigger motor in this case? speed is listed as the same. Maybe it gives a bit of extra torque? But is it an actually meaningful amount? also, doesn't it mean that the range will suffer, since batteries are the same? I'm not sure the motor is worth it atm. And what about the mosfet upgrade, what will it do better?
I think the coil needs to be switched out for heavier riders. Preload doesn’t do anything to change the spring performance, it just alters the sag when you step on. The S wheels continue to perform well with different rider weights, because of the non linear suspension design which stiffens with compression. But optimal performance comes from having the right spring weight.
10:10 this is the email I got from ewheels "We have loads of these machines with the upgraded high-powered Samsung 40T battery packs. King Song has shipped out a supply of the upgraded 4KW motors by sea-freight & the slider-kits are scheduled to be flown out by the end of the week. This will effectively bring up the spec of the machine to the new 'Pro' We're hoping to have these upgraded S22 Pros shipped out by the end of the month."
I talked to rev rides they told me the person that went to test drive the demo they got that the new sliders broke right away that the old sliders on the 3300 watt s22 were better hopefully kind song Improves this but other than that they said if I want to upgrade to the 4000watt motor it’s a simple switch but looking forward to your review on it so far loving the s22
Hey man, how is the S22 Pro? I am waiting for our local EUC pro to recover from a spill he had a month ago. Collar bone. He is going to have me play around with him on his extra V10f (while he rides his new Sherman-s) to see if I can get into EUCs before plunging but I have a feeling I will like it. I have a Wolf King GT Pro scooter I bought a few months ago but I recumbent bike, fixed gear bike, inline speed skate (yeah, the expensive ankeless ones with a lycra skin suit..I know), inline slalom freestyle skating. He says with my skating background I may pickup EUCs extremely quick. So, in anticipation I am shopping around in advance for a riding wheel for onroad mainly traveling probably no more than 50-60 miles per day at most probably and can support my weight of 220lbs - 240lbs. I fluctuate between winter and summer due to I hate biking and skating in the cold (cramp up a lot) and not a fan of gyms. I hear the S22 Eagle/Pro would work for me vs a Sherman-S. I also am big on safety. Top speed I do on my scooter is 35MPH..sometimes 40MPH. I expect not to exceed 30MPH on this. I'm 48 years old and looking into mainly city/urban riding.
Honestly, I never felt this pumped about a wheel. Maybe the T4 was close. I liked how Begode added some safety features to that one, but it had some issues which made me want to hold out. Unless we get some new announcements for some wheels in this S22 Pro class, this will probably be my next wheel. And the gold one makes it that much more awesome.
Kingsong are cheating S22 v1 owners. Dangerous Motor Stator errors, sliders and bolts sabotaging the suspension system. Kingsong are dishonest. Essential things like screws are of extremely bad quality. Pro might be better. In a review of the PRO version its relevant to tell potential buyers that Kingsong cheat their costumers. The PRO version Chooch recieved also litterally had loose screws. *uck Kingsong.. I have to admit my s22 rides very well after a tech fixd it, but I hate bad screwss and dangerous motors
See you're still getting wheels, it's not all bad. At 5:45 you mentioned 4000 watt hours I think you meant 4000w. They didn't up the size of the batteries too did they?
@@choochtech I knew what you meant too, I just wanted to clarify for some other people that may not know. It would have been cool though if they increased the battery size as well.
You don't need to ride offroad to see the difference in power. That should be obvious once you accelerate. The S22 is a slow off the line, not zippy at all. If there is a power delivery difference, I could tell straight away.
My first real unicycle!(first one was a cheap plastic one as a kid ruclips.net/user/postUgkx4e2fa6x27dF7shCelntq0ZIKt4N0jELI I never learned to ride)So, this is a true learner, and for a C note, exactly what was needed. After a few weeks, I'm able to easily ride up and down the street. The Good: Solid frame. Has absorbed numerous spills through learning and still solid. Look - great looks, after 6 weeks of bashing Weight - it's really all tire, but as I fall I can easily grab the seat so it doesn't slam the ground. Size - Very adjustable. I'm 6', 33" inseam. I put it mostly up, but could go a bit higher if I needed to. The Bad: Not sure if it's out of the norm, but seat got scraped up quickly. Pedals - they are a bit uncomfortable and I can't get the right feel on my feet. But, they are solid and haven't been damaged at all as I've seen in reviews on other cycle's.- To address one comment about the seat connection not straight. Huh? Seat is on a round pole, you just turn it and it's straight. Either of the bad I expected to replace once I improved. I'd recommend to anyone else in the learning phase.
Hey Chooch, I just got an S22 as my first wheel, how many degrees +- do you have your giro set at? Would you recommend an easier beginners setting and then a more confident rider setting to adjust the giro to? Absolutely love your content, your inspirational dude!
Pretty heavy first wheel . Good luck. Tip be ride it at first eith a low air in the tire. Makes it easier to balance and harder to go faster. Once you can ride around pump it up you don't want it hit a hole on a low tire
@@MrJoneshari Man, it might be a struggle to learn on the s22. Good luck. It has this weight distribution that could be kinda confusing to learn proper euc balance. It's also tall/heavy. If you're gonna do it, wrap the wheel with some kind of protection, cause you will crash it a few times. Some parts are really brittle and could still break. I would suggest doing the same thing I did - rent a small wheel for a few days and do two or three 1hour sessions during each day, this is very effective. And once you get it, you just have it. for life. then you can return the rent wheel and go learn the s22. Imo having these two things separated ( learning euc vs learning s22) would be beneficial. but ofc do whatever works for you. let us know how it goes
@David Williams it's a really nice wheel, a bit of a heavy and big wheel for a first timer but I'm getting there. With a young family and a busy work schedule I'm struggling to find enough time to put the hours in. But the wheel is great. I put after market pads on as the standard ones don't allow enough adjustment (in my opinion)
Is there any confirmation of the speed being the same as the S22 Eagle or does having a better motor allow it to go any faster? going 43mph on a 45 seems like a bad idea when people cruise 10-15 over on back roads.
S22 Coil. Hey Chooch. Do you ride the stock coil? After watching your reviews on the S22 I went and bought one. I've done over 2700km in four months of owning it. It's a great wheel, just right for me. But...... It's really steep but rough here (just coming to the end of summer) and I started thinking about 'smoothing the ride'. I know how my mountain bike should feel, my S22 feels a lot rougher. I've done the aluminium slider mod (mine isn't a pro version) which made soooooo much difference. I'm probably the same weight as you but with way less skill! Do you have a suggestion for changing the coil or leave as it is and 'suck it up'!! :)
im torn between getting this pro version or the regular s22 which is on sale right now for 2799$ at rev rides. gonna be my first wheel do you think the upgrades are worth the extra 500$ or should i just get the s22 eagle ?
YOUR 1ST WHEEL? DO NOT GET THIS AS YOUR 1ST WHEEL!!! HEAVY TO LEARN ON- YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Its like trying to learn to ride a motor cycle and you just told everyone you got a 1500cc Harley to learn on. Get a nice 500cc cycle to learn on then when you got the ropes you go for the big guns! Look into a kingsong 16s or 16x.. That will be the best decision you can make...
@@senatornegron8915 I’m pretty confident i would get it down quickly, I grew up downhill longboarding and downhill mtnbiking and snowboarding, I also don’t want to spend money on a wheel I know I won’t be satisfied with
@@_Dg242 yeah I mean my first esk8 was a propel endeavor it goes 31 mph and I felt like it’s not fast enough and maneuverable as much as I want. Iv always had a need for speed since I was a kid I’m not one of these old guys with a beer belly hopping on one for the first somewhat athletic thing in 30 years lol, I just want some help deciding between the master and s22 pro
@@primary7208 depends on you the s22 pro i think is a better off-road Euc with less top end speed. The master is good for off road but not as good as s22 but has a way faster top end speed. But with those battery sizes if you want speed and range you won’t go far maybe 30 miles the most pushing those wheels.
I get about 60 miles with regular s22 and about 40 with v12ht. I weigh 155. Average about 25 mph. S22 pro may be a little different with 4000 motor and high discharge batteries.
43. 5 mph. I have not got this one to top speed yet. still playing with the apps to see how I can get max speed. Think I need to turn tilt back to a higher speed
Get Your Next EUC here!- linktr.ee/choochtech
And here I am again... thinking I don't need an s22, and then I watch a Chooch video about it and thinking I do.
I was thinking the same thing 😂
Sell sell sell buy buy buy
Hahaha 👍🏼
Just a straight up review. That’s what I like about chooch and his videos. He breaks things down from a normal person’s perspective.
Use my codes
S22 Rider, Batch 1. I have my Motor stator pinned, installing the CNC slider mod, Shinko 244 Wheel installed. Without a battery size increase having a 4000w motor is basically pointless. The "PRO" improvements were 100% necessary though. The most recent firmware update was noticeable improvement in torque and stability. Riding this wheel is an absolute blast! Guess I was KingsSong's "Beta Bitch" this time around lol No regrets!
I agree just had my motor swapped to the zq3300 I think, the 4k motor is not needed. What burns my ass is I got it a day before canada day last year and its been in and out of eevees ever since. The pro releases and for me to attain the upgrades its no longer a 4500 cad device its a 7000 cad device to put it in a proper euc. These companies need to do better kingsong fked me for the last time never kingsong again.
Batch 2 rider: Motor slipped. New motor. Motherboard died randomly. New board. I've lost faith in it
@SwitchUpYt when I got mine back from the motor swap I takin for a ride, I got knocking from the bearings. Had to slightly loosen, then screws around motor and hit it with a mallet. I'm waiting to see what else fails I have around 2k km it's been in repair more then on the road. Don't get me wrong when this euc is 100 percent probably one of the best out there. The ride is stable and feels great. The least that kingsong can do is make my first batch what the pro is now. They lost a customer.
CNC slider mod makes this thing a whole new euc. Eats up roots and rocks and uneven ground like a Cadillac. Put my new motor in (had knocking that got really loud and constant on old one), and at around 50ish miles started getting knocking sound again. Only when euc is on and powered, and kinda random at slow speeds and constant at higher. My favorite euc over my other 2 (v12ht and master) eucs when I'm not wondering if I'm about to lose my front teeth.
Man I was kicking myself when I first heard about the pro version. Then I put my s22 up for sale, but now I'm having second thoughts. I have the october batch, suspension doesn't rebound after a week of riding(anyone know a temporary easy solution without disassembling?), but other than that the wheel is fine. New suspension will be a must have, but it would be just a pretty cheap upgrade for the old s22, and I'm not sure if the more expensive pro version would be worth it for the other upgrades. What is there to be gained from having a slightly bigger motor in this case? speed is listed as the same. Maybe it gives a bit of extra torque? But is it an actually meaningful amount? also, doesn't it mean that the range will suffer, since batteries are the same? I'm not sure the motor is worth it atm. And what about the mosfet upgrade, what will it do better?
Thanks Chooch, I will check it out. Love the V12HT by the way.
I think the coil needs to be switched out for heavier riders. Preload doesn’t do anything to change the spring performance, it just alters the sag when you step on. The S wheels continue to perform well with different rider weights, because of the non linear suspension design which stiffens with compression. But optimal performance comes from having the right spring weight.
this will be my first wheel chooch. Enjoy watching your videos. I'm also a heavier rider. I'm 210Ibs
10:10 this is the email I got from ewheels
"We have loads of these machines with the upgraded high-powered Samsung 40T battery packs. King Song has shipped out a supply of the upgraded 4KW motors by sea-freight & the slider-kits are scheduled to be flown out by the end of the week. This will effectively bring up the spec of the machine to the new 'Pro'
We're hoping to have these upgraded S22 Pros shipped out by the end of the month."
King song is brilliant to let you review this
With your approval they will fly off the shelf
Would absolutely love to see more videos of this one. Would love to see some dirtbike trails done on this.
I had an inmotion wheel , and i rode it a decent amount but the souls of my feet got so sore!
I choose this over the v13. Money is a thing and it's my first wheel. Idk. Be here Tuesday
I talked to rev rides they told me the person that went to test drive the demo they got that the new sliders broke right away that the old sliders on the 3300 watt s22 were better hopefully kind song Improves this but other than that they said if I want to upgrade to the 4000watt motor it’s a simple switch but looking forward to your review on it so far loving the s22
I’ll only buy my first Inmotion when they send you a V13. I make $180 a year with my wife.
Cheers
Olympia WA
Hey man, how is the S22 Pro? I am waiting for our local EUC pro to recover from a spill he had a month ago. Collar bone. He is going to have me play around with him on his extra V10f (while he rides his new Sherman-s) to see if I can get into EUCs before plunging but I have a feeling I will like it. I have a Wolf King GT Pro scooter I bought a few months ago but I recumbent bike, fixed gear bike, inline speed skate (yeah, the expensive ankeless ones with a lycra skin suit..I know), inline slalom freestyle skating. He says with my skating background I may pickup EUCs extremely quick. So, in anticipation I am shopping around in advance for a riding wheel for onroad mainly traveling probably no more than 50-60 miles per day at most probably and can support my weight of 220lbs - 240lbs. I fluctuate between winter and summer due to I hate biking and skating in the cold (cramp up a lot) and not a fan of gyms. I hear the S22 Eagle/Pro would work for me vs a Sherman-S. I also am big on safety. Top speed I do on my scooter is 35MPH..sometimes 40MPH. I expect not to exceed 30MPH on this. I'm 48 years old and looking into mainly city/urban riding.
Honestly, I never felt this pumped about a wheel. Maybe the T4 was close. I liked how Begode added some safety features to that one, but it had some issues which made me want to hold out. Unless we get some new announcements for some wheels in this S22 Pro class, this will probably be my next wheel. And the gold one makes it that much more awesome.
I hope it will be my next wheel! ) Looking forward to the next review.. Keep it up!
Yeah. Go Chooch!!! Do some city on that bad boy.
Kingsong are cheating S22 v1 owners. Dangerous Motor Stator errors, sliders and bolts sabotaging the suspension system. Kingsong are dishonest. Essential things like screws are of extremely bad quality. Pro might be better. In a review of the PRO version its relevant to tell potential buyers that Kingsong cheat their costumers. The PRO version Chooch recieved also litterally had loose screws. *uck Kingsong..
I have to admit my s22 rides very well after a tech fixd it, but I hate bad screwss and dangerous motors
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Did Inmotion send you the V13 yet?
What wheels do you guys ride?? Your videos rock
I got a v13 challenger and it's too heavy. Excellent wheel but inconvenient
Im really liking this one. I might just save up instead of gettin the high torque get this with suspension.
Top speed of this Unicycle please and how long is the battery life?
Awesome review, man, cheers for the upload.
they need to make 100v S18XL
they did, S19
@@milordas nice joke
See you're still getting wheels, it's not all bad. At 5:45 you mentioned 4000 watt hours I think you meant 4000w. They didn't up the size of the batteries too did they?
No I meant 4000 w motor, my bad no 4000 wh. In the context people know what I meant.
@@choochtech I knew what you meant too, I just wanted to clarify for some other people that may not know. It would have been cool though if they increased the battery size as well.
@@mikeintampa250 they are new batteries, supposedly better but not more wh. Cheers Mike
@@choochtech thanks man this was great info you put out on this wheel
4000 Wh would be sick! A relatively light suspension wheel with 4000 Wh?! Make it happen!!
Is the power noticably better than the original s22
I cant really tell honestly, been about a year since I had the original s22. Will be able to tell on trail ride for sure
You don't need to ride offroad to see the difference in power. That should be obvious once you accelerate. The S22 is a slow off the line, not zippy at all. If there is a power delivery difference, I could tell straight away.
My first real unicycle!(first one was a cheap plastic one as a kid ruclips.net/user/postUgkx4e2fa6x27dF7shCelntq0ZIKt4N0jELI I never learned to ride)So, this is a true learner, and for a C note, exactly what was needed. After a few weeks, I'm able to easily ride up and down the street. The Good: Solid frame. Has absorbed numerous spills through learning and still solid. Look - great looks, after 6 weeks of bashing Weight - it's really all tire, but as I fall I can easily grab the seat so it doesn't slam the ground. Size - Very adjustable. I'm 6', 33" inseam. I put it mostly up, but could go a bit higher if I needed to. The Bad: Not sure if it's out of the norm, but seat got scraped up quickly. Pedals - they are a bit uncomfortable and I can't get the right feel on my feet. But, they are solid and haven't been damaged at all as I've seen in reviews on other cycle's.- To address one comment about the seat connection not straight. Huh? Seat is on a round pole, you just turn it and it's straight. Either of the bad I expected to replace once I improved. I'd recommend to anyone else in the learning phase.
When you Jump on wheel, that produce sound noise like a spring?
Hey Chooch, I just got an S22 as my first wheel, how many degrees +- do you have your giro set at?
Would you recommend an easier beginners setting and then a more confident rider setting to adjust the giro to?
Absolutely love your content, your inspirational dude!
Pretty heavy first wheel . Good luck. Tip be ride it at first eith a low air in the tire. Makes it easier to balance and harder to go faster. Once you can ride around pump it up you don't want it hit a hole on a low tire
I have the tire set at 30psi, maybe I should drop it to 20?
Although I'm making good progress! 😀
@@MrJoneshari Man, it might be a struggle to learn on the s22. Good luck. It has this weight distribution that could be kinda confusing to learn proper euc balance. It's also tall/heavy. If you're gonna do it, wrap the wheel with some kind of protection, cause you will crash it a few times. Some parts are really brittle and could still break. I would suggest doing the same thing I did - rent a small wheel for a few days and do two or three 1hour sessions during each day, this is very effective. And once you get it, you just have it. for life. then you can return the rent wheel and go learn the s22. Imo having these two things separated ( learning euc vs learning s22) would be beneficial. but ofc do whatever works for you. let us know how it goes
I'm considering buying the same wheel as well. How do you like the S22 so far?
@David Williams it's a really nice wheel, a bit of a heavy and big wheel for a first timer but I'm getting there. With a young family and a busy work schedule I'm struggling to find enough time to put the hours in.
But the wheel is great.
I put after market pads on as the standard ones don't allow enough adjustment (in my opinion)
Is there any confirmation of the speed being the same as the S22 Eagle or does having a better motor allow it to go any faster? going 43mph on a 45 seems like a bad idea when people cruise 10-15 over on back roads.
Nice one Chooch. All the best Dude.
S22 Coil. Hey Chooch. Do you ride the stock coil?
After watching your reviews on the S22 I went and bought one.
I've done over 2700km in four months of owning it. It's a great wheel, just right for me. But......
It's really steep but rough here (just coming to the end of summer) and I started thinking about 'smoothing the ride'.
I know how my mountain bike should feel, my S22 feels a lot rougher.
I've done the aluminium slider mod (mine isn't a pro version) which made soooooo much difference.
I'm probably the same weight as you but with way less skill!
Do you have a suggestion for changing the coil or leave as it is and 'suck it up'!! :)
What is the real world range on the s22 pro?
Thanks very much 👍
with the t4 costing like 2400$ and it has higher top end, which one is more value?
Buy 2 for the same price
Dying for a range test please and thank you!
Are you in Colorado? Is there a community?
im torn between getting this pro version or the regular s22 which is on sale right now for 2799$ at rev rides. gonna be my first wheel do you think the upgrades are worth the extra 500$ or should i just get the s22 eagle ?
YOUR 1ST WHEEL? DO NOT GET THIS AS YOUR 1ST WHEEL!!! HEAVY TO LEARN ON- YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Its like trying to learn to ride a motor cycle and you just told everyone you got a 1500cc Harley to learn on. Get a nice 500cc cycle to learn on then when you got the ropes you go for the big guns! Look into a kingsong 16s or 16x.. That will be the best decision you can make...
@@senatornegron8915 I’m pretty confident i would get it down quickly, I grew up downhill longboarding and downhill mtnbiking and snowboarding, I also don’t want to spend money on a wheel I know I won’t be satisfied with
@@primary7208 don’t worry about the comments from people like that. I came from Esk8 as long as your safe and cautious should be fine.
@@_Dg242 yeah I mean my first esk8 was a propel endeavor it goes 31 mph and I felt like it’s not fast enough and maneuverable as much as I want. Iv always had a need for speed since I was a kid I’m not one of these old guys with a beer belly hopping on one for the first somewhat athletic thing in 30 years lol, I just want some help deciding between the master and s22 pro
@@primary7208 depends on you the s22 pro i think is a better off-road Euc with less top end speed. The master is good for off road but not as good as s22 but has a way faster top end speed. But with those battery sizes if you want speed and range you won’t go far maybe 30 miles the most pushing those wheels.
T4 pro or s22 pro?
The pro version has better braking performance or not?
yea, it does I can tell it has bit more power for braking for sure
@@choochtech great,then i’m buying it😄
can you talk to me about the range or the v12ht vs the S22pro?
I get about 60 miles with regular s22 and about 40 with v12ht. I weigh 155. Average about 25 mph. S22 pro may be a little different with 4000 motor and high discharge batteries.
@@trowland9575 ty
Is the Pro the same thing as the Eagle S22 at eWheels?
Yes, all the batch 1 wheels are getting retrofited into the pro version
I verified with ewheels on that
Awesome 😎
kid you really press the danger factor. hope these things don't get the best of you...blessings.
What’s the Top Speed on it???
43. 5 mph. I have not got this one to top speed yet. still playing with the apps to see how I can get max speed. Think I need to turn tilt back to a higher speed
5:44 Did you say 4000Wh ??? Really?
#SupportChooch
The marginal upgrades hardly justify the massive price increase. No thanks.
Quem comprou o S22 e vai comprar o "S22 pro" já pode dizer a plenos pulmões: EU SOU UM OTÁRIO FELIZ!!!!
pretty flat review.. no details on suspension durability and realability. How much they last from such winter ride? snow, water, salt from roads, etc.
Extra 1k