Your ego won't let you play these club but you SHOULD
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I've got no place for golf club snobbery with my game. I readily admit that I need all the help I can get, and not enough ego to reject anything that lowers my usually high score. This game is all about improving yourself and having fun. Using blades would kill both those goals for me. Many other Golf channels seem to concentrate only on the top end professional clubs and irons. Thanks Andy, for showing what's available to us (below) average golfers.
You're not below average, you're precisely average. If you look around on most public courses, everyone there pretty much is horrible with inconsistent striking due to absolutely nightmarish swing mechanics. Those that know what they're doing are few and far between, at least in my experience. Now I started out this summer (my first season taking the game seriously) as one with nightmarish swing mechanics and by the end of the season through watching trainers like Mike Malaska, Rob Cheney, Michele Low I was able to get to the point where I almost can pass as someone who knows what they're doing (about a 15-18 handicap). Still, I don't have time to practice to get to scratch, and game improvement irons still make sense for me so I'm considering these clubs to shave some strokes. These, along with an armbar putter can hopefully get me shooting in the 80's consistently.
I have thought about putting the new L wedge into my bag. 64 degrees would help with those 50yds and in shots also the hi lobs
I have got the G, S and the C. I play off 5 handicap and couldn’t care less what other people say. It’s just golf snobbery. It’s all about making the game easier.
My wife comes in from the garage at about the 4 minute mark, heard the music, and me breathing “Ooh Yeah” as I looked at those Cleveland wedges.
Without hesitation she yells, “Are you watching a skin flick?!”
Me: “No Honey, it’s the Average Golfer”
Her: “Yeah Right!” As she slams the door and leaves.
Thanks a lot Andy...🥺
Classic 👍⛳️
Ha ha . . . . the wife says it’s cheaper watching skin flicks 😉 . . . . er that’s not a request Andy 😳
Hi Andy Loving the channel , no word of a lie i purchased one of those gap wedges this afternoon before seeing this video , I struggle opening the face up on a wedge so these are a godsend, recently caught up with the channel when you were getting your van sorted in Harlow , I’m glad you found there’s more to Essex than the sugar hut . Keep up the great work
Really good video, thank you. I live in FL and after struggling with chipping/pitching off of tight bermuda grass lies with a low bounce wedge, I sucked up my pride and bought a 14 degree bounce with wide sole and it's helped a bunch. We also tend to get soggy fairways from all the rain and it's helped on those 80-100 yard shots as well. Long story short: your summary is spot on. (I'm a single digit capper)
Great video and definitely hits the nail on the head. I was a 7 handicap golfer, not now, but if the club improves my game I'll use it.
No ego here. I've got a 58 degree Cleveland Sure-out in my bag that I picked up a couple of years ago as a used club. I've gone thru and replaced all but hybrids and wedges in the past few months. Will be happy to try these Cleveland wedges as part of the process. Great info Andy!
Andy,
I am glad to see you bring up these wedges and the "chipper" and show how easy they were to use. I also feel that too many of my mid/high handicap golf buddies are "Legends in their own minds" and think that even though they almost never spend time practicing their short games or bunker play they all have "players wedges" in their bags and get frustrated with how many shots they give away from 100 yards in. If they would only shelve their egos and look at the reality of being the type of players they are, and look at redoing their wedges to a more playable option such as what you have presented in this video, maybe they wouldnt be reaching into their pockets at the end of their round to pay out instead of putting some green into their pockets! Keep up the good work!
By the way, after your reviews of the Mizuno STz fairway woods, I got fit for them and I can only Thank You Sir, they are absolutely outstanding!
Love mine! Changed the short game dramatically. In fact, I talked the guy next to me on the driving range today into buying them after letting him try them.
Excellent vlog Andy - so true!!!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I’ve got a pair of CBX2 wedges in the bag and they are really great!
Just got myself fitted for wedges. It wasn't a super in depth fitting, more or less I hit a few different wedges picked the ones I liked best and we add an inch of length. Everything else seemed good as standard. We settled on 50° 56° and 60° for my best gapping off of my 43° pitching wedge. I got Cleveland. Cbx2 in 50+56 and cbx full face 60. I haven't had a chance to hit them on the course yet due to stormy weather. But I'm really excited to get out there when the weather breaks.
I’m a 7 hc and I use the the cbx 2 PW and GW then zipcore SW and 58. The CBX 2s are so forgiving and have helped my approach game tremendously. Hardly noticeable visual difference between CBX 2 and zipcore at address
Love my CBX2s. 60, 56, 52 and 48. I'm starting to loose a little distance and these really pay off in the short game.
I switched from Cleveland cb588 to mizuno hmb's 4-pw after seeing the look on you're face when first trying them, lighter stiff shaft too.....they are awesome
Put the G and SW of the smart sole in the bag this year and I can’t fault them, there performance has been great, there so easy to hit and when down at the ball look just like a normal wedge. I have them in the bag along side a 54* CBX and a 60* RTx 2 cb. I play off single figures and couldn’t care about ego when it comes to clubs, if the perform and do the job, they’ll go in and stay in the bag. What’s worse, the look of having a big sole wedge in the bag or duffing that thin, pretty vokey on the course 😀
I have a Maltby version of this style of wedge in a 60 degree. It is a game changer; so much easier to hit. Way more consistent for me off turf and in sand. I am a mid-handicap golfer and have no problem bagging a “game-improvement” wedge.
i'd totally play one or more of them, but i already have some easy to hit wedges in my bag and a Mazel 55 degree chipper, so i'm golden. I struggle with chipping around the greens and shorter pitches. Never had an issue with full wedge shots, longer pitches or bunkers though.
Love my CBX2 wedges have 50,56,60. Cleveland for me make the best wedges. As a high handicapper they really help.
Why do mid and high handicappers buy cavity back irons then buy tour forged wedges? We’re not pro’s so ditch the ego and make the game easier and more fun.
This is the only video on these clubs that showed playing full 100-yard shots with them. Well done.
Now I have discovered that my cbx2 54 is so good from the rough it’s having a second life in my bag especially for the short shots getting to the greens
Brilliant video Andy. Like the look of them. Short game is bad. But covid19 has been bad on everyone. So more practice is needed. So hopefully can get my S18s playing great again.
Great video will have to try the AW. What camera/lens setup are you using, the colors look great.
Thanks Bruce
Thanks to this video I got my self a CBX 48 suit me for chipping and approach, and smart sole S. Immediately get 5 shot less in two outing in a row. And that 4 is from 100-103 to 95-99. Finally 😂😂. Thanks man.
Purchase the chipper last fall. Love it. Just ordered the gap, to fill the gap in my set. Can't wait.
Ive ordered one of the Cleveland smart sole gap wedges today got the smart sole sand wedge just hope it performs as well do you think I need to look at the chipper ?
Andy, I have these Cleveland wedges in my bag 48, 58 & 60. They are the best wedges for my game. No issues with them, simply great. When I purchase my next make of irons these with definitely stay in my bag.
thats wierd gapping.
I’ve been a CBX convert since gen 1. I’ve since moved on to CBX 2. Love them.
i just ordered the chipper smart sole, and purchased a 58 degree large sole wedge from lazrus... im excited to practice with them and get around the green better. i still have a bladed 52 degree in the bag because i can full swing that one no problem. its my 2nd month golfing for the first time and i shot a 113 my last time out. im hoping after i use these clubs and my driver lessons coming up ill be hitting under 100 before the season ends... i hope.
Keep up the great videos Andy!
I'm playing the CBX 2 in 48º and 52º. I have a lower bounce 56 with a thinner sole for bunkers. I play out of a lot of wet, packed river sand bunkers and the sole of the CBX wedges is just too much for those shots. That's possibly a technique/mental problem on my end, though. In fluffy or loose sand on nice courses, they're a dream. But the majority of my shots around the green I play with the CBX 48 or 52, or a 9-iron. They work! Currently I'm at a 4 handicap.
Just today I had a couple of the easiest birdies in my life. I have the smart sole chipper, it replaced my p wedge. I hit a nice 120 yd tee shot with it, 2 feet from the pin, tap in and move on. Later, on a 300 yd. par 4 I hit a nice pitch up hill from 25 yards that ran right past the hole, but left me 6 feet away. You can hit full shots with these and I have found it easy to do so. I will be ordering the Gap wedge soon!
I love smart soul sand wedge. The 54 CBX is great too. I chip fine with a PW or a 7
Great video. Would love to see you compare the Cleveland Smart Sole with the Cleveland CBX2l.
Ok so this may sound nuts but I suggest folks try this. The 42 d C wedge can be hit using a full shot swing, flys really high, straight and long can be used as a full wedge replacement over 100 yds! Like it so much the first year it came out I ordered another and experimented by adding an inch and a half to the shaft and had it bent to my lie -2 angle by Cleveland which they can do if you order from them. I don't care about the looks. Its impossible to chuck this wedge! Easy to play half or quarter swings just account for roll out. Now if I feel like replacing my irons I replace only 7 8 and 9 irons. I use two hybrids / woods for the long clubs and this C club as PW thru Gap replacement. 54 SW and the 58/60 low bounce CBX2 match well. When I get the urge to replace irons it doesn't cost a fortune. Also you learn more by playing one club in various distances right down to the chip chocking down on the longer shaft. EGO feels good when I take $$ from my golf buddies.
I've got a 50,54,58 RTX 3. In the dryer months in the UK, they are magic. No issues at all. This winter, I am really struggling to get consistent shots. I would definitely benefit from the 50 at least.
I have 3 of the CBX2 wedges and love them. Some people think I was crazy because I replaced my Vokeys with them, but they just perform better.
I have a Mack Daddy CB in my bag. My choice was between that or the Cleveland CBX2.
I use a Callaway Sureout ✅ similar to the smart sole
I had an original smart sole sand wedge, it works great from every where except for hardpan or hard packed sand because it won't dig with the big flange. It's stupid easy to hit from normal bunkers. I use a 60 degree CBX full face now, it works pretty well also.
Exact same switch as me. Good middle ground.
“Big flange’ that’ll have any schoolboy sniggering
Recently bought 3 cbx2 wedges. Even bad shots end up with a good result.
I play the CBX 50* , 54* & CBX2 58* and they are the best IMHO. I will be trading in the CBX sometime this year because they improved the feel with the CBX2. They should be looked at by anyone playing GI irons also IMHO. Great review.
i am a 15-trending-downward handicapper and i am only able to call myself a 15-trending-downward because i game smart sole clubs. my consistency within 80m has absolutely skyrocketed and i was so happy i bought a CBX2 sight unseen to gap the smart sole GW and SW. if you are on the fence about these clubs - you have GOT to try them!
Love my CBX2 54 & 58
Just bought 2 x CBX2 wedges and although I’ve only played once so far I love them. No more pro type wedges for me
I currently play Cleveland CBX wedges (52, 56, 60). I have no confidence near the green using lofted clubs. I just ordered the Smart Sole chipper on-line from Dick's Sporting Goods. Hoping for an improvement! No ego to contend with here! Thanks for the idea!
I'm in exactly the same situation (even got the same wedges), how did you get on with the smart sole?
@@Jack-xy4fy One year in and I'm a believer in the chipper. I took the 56 degree out because I found it too limiting on tight lies and firm sand. But, the chipper is staying in for good. It took me a while to learn how to control distance, but now I am very, very confident with it. I also like it a lot from 50 yards and in under the right circumstances. I highly recommend it. And, I also recommend the 56 degree wedge. It is a fine club, and I put it in the bag when we have wet conditions.
I play of 5-6 and have had the Callaway SureOut 56* wedge in my bag for 2+ seasons. I use it everywhere inside 70 yards! Everywhere. It's SOOOOO easy to hit out of the sand and rough but the bounce makes it so easy to hit off marginally tight lies. Love it! Cheers boys!
Another comment that is great advice to many golfers
I use the smart sole sand wedge 58 deg and I love it
Confession Time. I have the 58 degree because it makes it easy to get out of bunkers. The ball pops up and lands soft off this club. It makes the game fun for guys with a 12 handicap like me. The longer the bunker shot the longer the swing. Simply a great club!
Great advice I reckon Robert 👍
Another very true video. A mate who plays Ping G irons "uses" blade gap, sand plus lob wedge and complaints his short game is rubbish ...... but they look good :)
And there you have it!
I just picked up the CBX 50, 54, 58 about 2 months ago. Drastic improvement in short game. Really made an impact. So much more confidence and consistency. Highly recommended.
Agree Jason. I added the "c" club to that same set up with a longer shaft (1.5inches) and had Cleveland also adjust the lie - 2 flat. I use it as PW / GW and chip choked down on the longer shaft. Made a big difference around the greens. Proof is in the performance!
Which course were you on. Looks great
I’ve 3 cbx’s in the bag they’re brilliant
Cleveland were good enough for Corey Pavin, and a Lynx 56 Deg seems to work for me. I don't particularly follow trends. I've got old Tmade woods and new Pings in the bag too
Changed wedges this season CAllaway Mack daddy cavity Back 46&50 plus sure out 58 sand wedge. Bunkering on my home course is very challenging. Set up square and accelerate through sand with sure out pops out every time. Ego parked with car in car park
Love it Brian great feedback for your fellow golfers
Most of us a touch of Smart Sole in our Golf game👍
Got the smart sole G and S - great clubs, especially the S out of bunkers
I’m an idiot sand player. Not confident when it might be 5-6 sand tries to get out. Got the smart sole sand wedge. No practice and in one round 7 sand shots all out in one try. Very happy. Next up smart sole chipper and gap wedge.
Andy, the light on the day you filmed was so good and along with the quality of the camera it felt like I was there ! The bird song was beautiful. Did you test a club ?? Ha ha ! Honestly, my mind was not on the club. Maybe it was because it just looked awful. I know its wrong, I could play the CBX but not that one, I'd be thinking I'm about to fat every full shot with it. The quality of the vid was really good Andy as usual.
Thanks for kind feedback and yes it was a nice day for filming
My 52 degree CBX2 is easily the most reliable club in my bag.
Great review and video of these wedges
Thanks Andrew
CBX 2 great wedges I have 3 in my bag I could afford vokey but egg have something you struggle to play with.
Cbx2
46,50,54,58
Brilliant clubs
I have 3 cbx2’s in my bag Andy , stop kidding ourselves and get what works and helps us big time
Some people prefer chunking or thinning a Vokey because their favorite tour player has it in THEIR bag. Their short games will never get better without lessons and while using a wedge that gives them half a chance to enjoy the game more. (Let alone lowering handicap) :)
I want a foolproof wedge I can play from 10-25 feet from the green (usually shot #3) and get it close to the pin so I can par the hole. Usually use my Ping U (gap) wedge. One of these might be the answer.
The U wedge from Ping is so versatile though, love mine from 90 yards and in.
@@craigsharp6581 like my Ping i20 U wedge as well for chipping & full swings from 110-120 out but Im looking for that pie in the sky that chips ball to 5’ or closer to the hole. More than likely that means more practice, practice, practice😞
At the end of the day it’s about helping every level of player, that in turn brings more enjoyment. I’m always looking for easier clubs, don’t care how they look. The opposition are looking to your ball, not the back or sole of the club as you swing it.
I've played the G and S wedges for almost a year now. After the experience I've added a classic (14° bounce) Sand Wedge for those bunker shots that really need an almost flat open club face to get the almost vertical launch when close to the face of the bunker. But for every other shot these two clubs have made a world of difference in confidence from 90 yards and in, especially the delicate shots from rough just off the greens.
As a senior now playing off 20, this has been a game changer now I cannot quite reach some greens in regulation.
Cleveland has always made great wedges! Irons are iffy sometimes.
They were out of the irons for awile. Now in the Srixon / XXIO family their new UTX irons are pretty good for cast improvement.
I play the CBX 2. 54 and 58
Hands up, my ego gets in the way - Vokey SM8s, they are nice though
I have the original cbx wedges and they are light years better than anything I've ever used. And yes, im a high handicap hacker.
I don't like to open my wedges so maybe the smart sole is in my future! 🐊🏌️♂️🇺🇸🦅❣
Worth a try
My short game is in tatters at mo. These would probably be great for me! Let's be honest though, they won't make it to my bag as I'd rather work on my game and try and improve.
Golf is all about the struggle 😂😂😂
The problem is I preach and then ignore my own advice Jay!
@@TheAverageGolfer do as I say, not as I do 🤣🤣🤣 my whole game is awful at mo though, so I'm not stressing too much about short game.
Lockdown, no practice, daddy duties= shite golf game 😩
Hard to beat the 60 degree TaylorMade Bigfoot for ease of hitting in my book.
CBX2s and smart soles are far easier to use than the TM big foot. I had the bigfoot before switching to clevelands
If a club or clubs are aimed at high handicap golfers help so much why wouldn’t a say scratch golfer use these? Or any club used at high handicap golfers? So say why blades? Or these clubs you’ve just reviewed? It would be really good to see a scratch golfer use a bag of say “forgiving” clubs,. Now that would be interesting. Would they score higher or stay the same? Hhmm
anyone ever put a full swing on the chipper?
My friends gets 100 yards, and i 70 yards,.
Do you go round around par?
No?
Then why do you not want more help?
What everyone needs is a good schooling on BOUNCE. Nobody seems to know or care these days. With the proper bounce, which nobody uses enough of these days, it will make all of your wedges so much easier to use. NOBODY talks about that number. My 60 has 14 degrees of bounce. The average these days is just 9. This is why nobody can hit them. I am a 12 handicap, but my wedge play, especially right to the green can beat most pros. I have seen guys but used wedges on line and not even ask what bounce they are. These needs to be talked about and to be honest, the Average Golfer here is probably not schooled enough. Just know that about 99% of all golfers do not have enough bounce on their wedges. This includes the pga pros.
🤔 So this is what you were up to? 😬👍🏽
This and one more mate 👍
@@TheAverageGolfer 🤔👍🏽👍🏽
If you aren't good enough to play a set of blades, then don't buy bladed wedges because hitting a pitch shot off of a tight lie from 35 yards is 3x as difficult as hitting a full swing shot with a blade. When you can break 80 regularly, then consider bladed wedges - otherwise, play wedges like the Cleveland CBX2, Ping Glide 3, Mizuno ES21 wide, Taylormade Bigfoot - and if you can't break 90, then play the Cleveland Smart Soles
My thoughts exactly.
Utter kak, I buy with results first, otherwise where’s the improvement and therefore sport? If it brings down my score, I’m all over it, especially a chipper.
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