PING have made a HUGE MISTAKE with this AMAZING NEW CLUB...
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2022
- PING have made a HUGE MISTAKE with this AMAZING NEW CLUB... When PING release new golf clubs they often absolutely smash it out of the park... we saw the Ping g425 driver which has been a huge success over the last few years, the Ping i525 irons which have rivalled the best irons of 2022, the most forgiving golf clubs and even the longest golf clubs of 2022. We have also seen the Ping i210 irons, Ping Blueprint irons and also the Ping i59 irons which have been a major success for golfers wanting workable golf clubs but also forgiving irons... in this video we see a brand new 2022 PING GOLF CLUB.. but I honestly feel like they have made a HUGE MISTAKE with the release of this new golf club... let's do it. and let's do it now!
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A few year ago I started shanking all shots around the green . I now use my 23 degree hybrid on tight lies and from the fringe with a putting stroke and have had great success, much like using a chipper . I haven’t looked back. Took awhile to get the touch dialed in but I would not change a thing
Would love to see a head to head against the Cleveland chipper!!
I would be really interested to see a head to head with this and the Cleveland! Both good looking clubs that could help a lot of golfers
Don't forget about the 45 degree square strike!
@@paulmcgee1867 totally get it... But if one gets your better results, I could get over the looks of just about anything.
Agreed! Cleveland Smart Sole C, the Callaway Exacta, and the Square Strike. Let's go!
I think the Cleveland and ping have the edge on looks. I play cbx2 wedges any way, so the smart sole 4 would look fine along side them
@@steveconnolly-bastock4174 I have CBX2 in 50 and 54 plus a new CBX ZipCore 60. I'm intrigued by this but not sure what I'd take out of the bag to make room for it.
I don't think I'd use it, but I will admit it's probably the best looking chipper I've ever seen.
YAY! Another collaboration with both of you! I already saw Andy's review. Really appreciated your double-take on this club! AND, bravo on the chip in! Cheers!
The Cleveland flavor of this "chipper" is quite delightful. It gives me such control and confidence. The feel is unlike any other wedge I've ever used. So I can see where Ping wants on to the band wagon.
I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE!!!!
hope they make them in left handed🤷🏼♂️
Cleveland has been making one for several years that looks good. I carry one. It’s really good in the fringe but it’s really really helpful in deeper rough where the weight helps it get through.
People carry woods and hybrids that they use a few times a round. This really isn’t any different. I may only use is 5-6 times a round but when I do it shaves strokes.
I played 9 holes tonight. I used my 19 degree hybrid 2 times, my 3-wood one time, I didn't use my SW or GW at all, but I used the chipper 6 times. Only clubs I used more were Driver, 7i, 9i, PW, and putter.
Great video guys! Love seeing you working together on this. I just purchased the Cleveland version of this club.
My first set were handmedown copper ping eye 2 irons and woods. And the bag included a copper chipper. As a new young player, that was my go to club. Having not had any lessons, it was the only club I would consistanly get a good strike on, used it off the tee on par 3s and for longer pitch shots. Surprising how well it worked with a fuller swing. It was the shorter shaft and headweight that helped. Not surprised by this from Ping, its not a new idea. Looks pretty good
Hi James after rewatching your Great Video👌, went and bought the ChipR, and I am delighted 😃 with it, onto the putting Green lot’s of chipping a bit long at first but after a few adjustments was chipping it close to different pin positions👍, Then on to the practice ground with launch monitor it the club performance was Brilliant full shots 100yds constantly:- with penetrating with spin, the feel is so good, I have never hit so many shots out of the centre of the club face👍,So glad you hit this shot in the review (unlike most reviewers) Thanks James, I think 🤔 this club is a “Game Changer” from 100yds, & in😃much easier to use!,Got mine with a graphite shaft witch is perfect for my slower swing (All steel shaft’s sold out) This is a proper well designed golf club (unlike other chipper’s) well done Ping, Thanks Dickey 9hcp 75year Senior Golfer
I really enjoyed seeing both of you in this video . I watch you both all the time.
When the 1st "recue" clubs came out , the pro's and low handicappers were a bit sniffy , didn't like to be considered in need of rescuing . Then they renamed them "hybrids" , everyone had a couple in their bag !
I just purchased a PING Chipper. I have played two rounds and it is one of the most forgiving clubs I have used. It does take some practice but really works well for me around the green and out about 50 yards. First round I chipped in a 20 yard chip which I have not done for a long time. Highly recommend.
I may have to update my old Ping Chipo for this new one. I like the idea of the weight and upright lie angle. My old Chipo is lofted like a 5 iron and very light weight. It has taken a lot of practice to get it up in the air consistently. It is great for hitting a shot almost full and keeping it down under branches or other such things.
Last I saw a Chipo on eBay was like $280 with people still bidding on it.
Practice gripping down a couple of inches on an 8 iron or 9 iron or PW, giving a more vertical shaft and slightly toe down position. Use a putting stroke to give a similar result to a chipper.
Agreed. Almost every club in the bag can be a chipper. Some players get hooked on using a wedge every time they're close to the green.
@@simonleach3812 depends who they are aiming it at. I play golf regularly and i am happy chipping with my normal clubs. My brother plays about 5 times a year and off about 19. He needs a chipper and has had one in the bag for over 10 years. Without it he is a mid 20s handicapper. People say to him "oh you should practice" to which he says "no, i have literally zero interest in practicing, so i am never going to be able to chip well with other clubs." He plays another sport to a high level and has no time or interest in practise. I fear a lot of people that slag off chippers think that everyone that plays golf must be devoting time to it and trying to be as good as they can be. It's not true, many just like a round now and then.
I swapped my 50, 54 & 58 wedge setup for a 52, 58 and chipper.
Dropping about 5 strokes because I’m always on the green from chipping and not duffing.
Also, punch out shots are much better with a chipper when the lie is doable.
Also, I can hit a full shot from under the trees about 120 or more.
Every average golfer needs one of these and needs to ditch the pro mentality about their clubs!
Another great vlog James. Your content is excellent. Love the banter you must have with your brother. How about doing a vlog over a match with him? You do give him a hard time don’t you. 😂
Used mine last week for the first time. I was very impressed and reckon it saved me 5-6 shots by finishing close enough to one put. Still need to work on distance and the ball comes off a bit hot. I used it up to 90 yards. Best result six inches behind the hole from around 80 yards. Have dropped a hybrid but might end up dropping one of my three vokey wedges.
Good to see you two together!
Great review on that club guy’s and enjoyable watching you two demonstrate it
Try the Cleveland "C-Wedge". It has 42 degrees of loft, which makes it slightly more versatile than the 38 degree Ping. I hit full shots with it from 100 yards. Absolutely love it.
Should've called it the Ping 1Putt.
I have a Cleveland Smart Sole 4 Chipper in my bag right now, but I like the looks of this one so much more, plus the full shot thing is enticing, plus the Cleveland's face is just a tad too small IMO and the sole makes opening the face harder, if it's even slightly in deeper rough it makes it very difficult to use, the Ping looks like it could handle that much better. It's out of my price range right now, but in a couple of years I'm sure I'll grab one on the used market and give it a go. I'm a 12 handicap, who can hit a wedge decently but like you guys said, it's not about how good your good shots are it's how good your bad shots are and a bad wedge shot will kill a hole, but with my chipper my bad shot still sees me with a chance to 2 putt. I've always been immune to peer pressure and if ever teased about using a Chipper (which doesn't really happen with average golfers) I can handle it, I'll put anything in my bag if it helps me get closer to the pin. Great content.
You comments on the Cleveland chipper are interesting. I have one too and the Ping looks better to me as well. I have an Adams chipper that I like better than the Cleveland one. The Cleveland Smart sole chipper is good but I think its more limited .
@@josephdubiel7129 now you tell me 😭
"my brother plays off scratch but he's not very good." 😂 😂 😂 😂
You guys work very good together.
I’m going to try the Chip R for myself.
I’ve got a Cleveland smart sole chipper, I play it within 100 yards straight down the middle every time! I used the chipper for a short par 4 and hit the green in reg 😂
Awesome. Following both of you. Great pleasure to see you together! Head down to Asia and have some rounds next winter season. The rounds are on me.
Hi James great video... Do you have to set up to the ball in a specific way or just middle of the stance weight even etc?
Two of my favorite you tube golfers together!
Good to see Andy on the channel: I think you are spot on about the name, they have limited the market for sure.
Hey James, You and Chris should do a video with the Ping ChipR and the Cleveland Smart Sole C. Would be cool to see what you guys could do with them. Cheers!
This was a well-done video...great job.
I watched both of your video's on this club and seeing the versitility I bought one today. I have no idea why you say this is just for mid to high players? This is pure amazing from fringe to 100 yards out! If its legal why wouldnt you use it? Vanity? (I love your content so not meaning that to dig at you) If it wasnt for deep rough it would replace the 9 iron completely. I almost got a hole in one on our par 3 with it!!! In my opinion Ping should model the lie and bottome line of this club to a set of clubs and they would be killer!!! This club is amazing!!! Keep up the great video's 😉
I ordered one after watching Andy's video yesterday. Hope to see Andy collaborate with more RUclipsrs
I’ve been loving my Cleveland sole 3 chipper with putter grip, can play with loft for a higher shot, or play it low
I purchased the Cleveland Smart SoleChipper this season and it’s been a great shot saver. The ball does tend to run out with little check, which I compensate for. Would be interesting to compare this Ping option since it looks like it does have the capacity to check.
I recently purchased the Cleveland chipper and it is my go to club from about 20 yards in around the green.
Gamed a chipper in the mid late 90's and was very good with it,,holed out quite often off the green
Great video, great pairing!
Love the collab. I really want to see this video where you use this club against a wedge on the same shots.
Love your enthusiasm for golf James..great review 👏🏻👏🏻🇪🇸
Verdad ! Que si 🇲🇽
Great review - I especially love the way you also tried 100yards! Looks like the perfect weapon for us hacks!
I've just bought the Cleveland smart sole 4 just this week. It's taken quite few years of practice to get semi decent at chipping. And I find if I don't practice it for even a short time I loose it. Now I'm about to change jobs so I don't envisage getting so much free time, so i bought one to hopefully reduce the need to practice. My wife has had one for years and thinks I'm an idiot not to use one.
Hey Andy!! Definitely getting one for my short set.
great review well done ...i think I may try this club...pretty good chipper with 7,8,9,PW but i think i would be even better with this club...thx......cheers from Canada
I use my 8 iron for the bump and run and it works great just takes some practice so you know how it comes off the face.
Love seeing Andy on channel. great collab
Been super interested in this type of club since I first heard average golfer talk about it. I’m going to give it a shot to see how it treats me.
Definitivamente pondré uno en mi bolsa !!
I have the old Ping ChipO,,,,love it,,But that ChipR,, looks compact ,, quite nice,,,,,
My Cleveland C wedge has become my go to from about 90 yards in. It's just so easy to hit and never gives me the concern about duffs that I would get using a higher lofted wedge. I replaced my 58 in the bag with it and haven't looked back. It does take some practice to get used to, but once it's dialed in it is near automatic.
I love old hickory blades, this chipper has that classic aesthetic. Wouldn't it be lovely to see a modern set, in a chipper style. Modern retro.
Out of interest fellas, have you tried the Cleveland offering? I’m currently rocking one but still have the 50, 54 and 60 degrees in the bag for when I really need them or want to hit those particular stock yardages. I have chosen to drop the PW so go 9iron straight to 50. Interestingly, the reason I have done this is exactly what Andy said about practising several different bump and runs but with the one club. Was actually pretty good at getting it close with 7-PWs but am noticing I’m even tighter and the duffs are far fewer and end up being far less penalising. Can you guess I approve. 😜
I already have a chipper from Adams that I enjoy a lot. I would not mind trying out this new Ping one though. Its funny that this happened because I had been thinking that it would be great if Ping came out with a chipper because my bag is full of Ping clubs. Next thing I know the Ping Chipper appears. I am sure this video will sell many of these for Ping. Looks really good.
Great video! Being from Ping though, what would be the cost of this thing. I currently have a collection of chippers and depending on the course I’m playing I still use one. I have used one on and off since I was 10 years when I started playing golf, that’s been 45 years ago. I currently use a Powerbilt TPS Bump & Run Chipper. Keep up the great videos.
Nice review guys!
Fun having two perspectives
re ChipR name
Ping is an interesting company in that in most ways they are conservative: - design - product cycle times - marketing ... but they do come out with some edgy names! - mainly in putters
I reckon this category deserves to be in the bag of most golfers, but the stigma is too strong!
Perhaps one day we will see a top player on tour using and espousing and then "the average golfer will wise up"
Love the collaboration. Ping should have called it the iCH.
Really good video fellas . I don’t recall hearing much about the feel of the club. Soft, hard , clicky? How did it compare to regular forged wedge feel?
Would be great to get your thoughts. Thanks.
Foxy!!!?
As much fun as this was with Andy, I think this calls for a Foxy test. Hand full of balls from various spots with chipper (ping and/or Cleveland), wedge, and 9 iron or something.
I have a Cleveland smart sole c , I Absolutely love it
I would order one of these looks great
Hi you guys make a good team, great review,
I'll be getting one of these to replace my 60° at the end of the month 👍
I have the three Cleveland wedges that are similar to this. I have a C, G and S in that set. Much easier to use than my old Gap, and Sand Wedges as well.
I recently purchased the same three clubs, but I need some more practice with them. The chipper works great, but you need to spend some time getting the stroke length calibrated for the roll out length. I'm pleased with all three clubs at this point and anticipating more improvement.
Oddly, my C Wedge has given me so much confidence around the green that I’m now successfully using my G Wedge for more delicate shots from deeper rough. Win - Win!
I purchased this club and it has been great. I always struggled with a wedge from short distances striking the toe or the heel of the club. My question is how much ball loft should I expect to get on a normal stroke, my hits do not get any loft. thank you.
I like the look of this club James. I suspect with the shaft length and the lie angle it is probably more suited to shots from 40 metres in. And maybe with more of a putting stroke?
Yes. The long shots are more of a gag than something you'd actually do. Watch Mark Crossfield's video on it.
Hi James & Andy Great Video👍& review’s of the Ping ChipR, I have a excellent short game and was thinking 🤔 this could give me a extra shot option around the Green, when Andy holed the chip (you said he got a lovely bit of check “spin”) to me that was a perfect comment👍, When practicing chipping (with 9Iron) I can’t get that control and the ball just runs on, I also liked the shots you hit in from 90yds, penetrating flight with some spin control, Do you think this club would give me extra options with the short game, Thanks to Both of you for a superb Video, Dickey 9hcp 75year Senior Golfer
I have a Ping G700 PW - also with 42 deg of loft. You had several comments why the loft of the chipper was prohibitive for several types of conditions. What would be the difference between the strong Ping PW and the chipper (or any other club with similar loft)?
Lie angle and head weight
Right tool for the right job.
By that I mean this is a great club when grass is short, uniform, dry, and ground is firm. At my hime course that is Feb thru May. It is the wrong club when grass is long, ununiform, wet, and ground is soft. Better fly in a wedge then. That is typical of my home course from May to Sept due to heavy irrigation.
Point being there are no universal solvents, so only put it in the bag when conditions are right for it.
You should try the Cleveland Smart Sole chipper
big fan of collaborations with other YT golfers.
I hope you do get one yo test James because I'd love to give this a try at woolley
Going straight in my bag!!! And im not taking anything out!!!!!
Do like a co-lab, also just bought a Cleveland smart sole chipper the other week. I'm a 10 handicap, hopefully it helps me get to single figures. If so I can take any berating I get off the lads.
Got one on order sadly a long wait now expected Late November
Think its a great looking club . But what do you take out the bag to put it in
They should have called it a utility wedge. I've got one and it's brilliant.
The same results can be obtained with a mid-iron if one practices from 40 yards and in with one using a chipping stroke as suggested in Tom Watson’s book “Getting Up and Down From 40 Yards and IN” which is one of the first instructional books I purchased and followed in the mid-1980s. He suggested learning to hit 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and full shots with every club in the bag taking note of carry and roll characteristics. That really expands the imagination and skill around around the green.
The difference between 1/4 and greater swing arcs is that in 1/4 swing shots both arms are kept straight and in the downstroke to the ball the trailing shoulder and arm become the axis of rotation for the stroke. That’s the opposite of swings in which the force of the swinging club pulls the club and lead arm straight making the front shoulder the axis of rotation with the force also causing automatic hinging at the wrist.
It is the hinging at the wrist creating radial deviation and releasing it through impact which produces a downward strike on the ball driving it into the turf and causing it to ‘pop’ out with a lot of backspin. A chipping stroke lacks the downward rotation of the club head around the hands of a pitch and full shot and the trailing shoulder becomes the axis of rotation for the swing creates a different dynamic between club face, ball and turf. To the extent there is backspin created on the ball it comes from allowing the ball to roll up the face of the club between impact and release. Once the difference in cause and effect is realized it becomes easier to successfully use a mid- or long-iron as a chipping club around the green. No need for the ‘crutch’ of a dedicated chipping club.
It's commonly taught that close-in chips or bump and run shots often call for using a putting stroke. This club is optimized for that. Its lie angle and length are similar to most putters, allowing for a true putting setup with the ball under the eyes, without the gymnastics of of lifting the heel of a short or mid iron and gripping down (perhaps below the grip) to get the ball in closer and employ a putting grip...there's a lot to be said for setting up at a club's natural lie angle. Call a well designed chipper a crutch if you like, but IMO it's no different than other clubs that are designed to be easier to hit (compared to a traditional iron) in specific scenarios (gap wedge? hybrid?).
$179 US is a lot for one wedge. But I’ll buy it.
Best looking chipper on the market. I would not be ashamed to have this in my bag.
Another great video with the Average Golfer !!!
Finally got the chip R out today for 6 holes and had 3 SINGLE chips on 3 of the holes I played hasn't happened in a VERY long time. I have the worst chipping in the world. I suffer from Yips chipping and the closer I get to a hole the worse it becomes So I'm hoping the ping Chip R is going to help me.
Enjoying these videos because the average golfer channel is great too!
Have a chipper form Maltby. Best $35 I’ve spent.
This looks perfect for me because I often find myself short of the green. I'd happily take out my 5 iron (which I always struggle with anyway) and put this chipper in the bag.
Or just bag them both I mean, why do we handicap ourselves with 14 clubs?
@@pigs6486 because of the rules in golf. Duh.
@@hitdog042 Are you on tour? Have you drank beer or smoked a cigarette? Have you changed ball manufacturers mid round? Have you ever taken a cheap drop because you didn't want to go back and re-tee. Or played out of turn to speed up pace of play? Or offered/accepted gimmes? You fake rule Nazis are what ruin this game for other people...
Should have been the UW utility wedge
I have a cleveland smartsole and did it change my short game my mates call it deadly !!
Like to see this compared to chipping with a super game improvement 9 iron - same sort of head size and weight
when my 52 needs replacement, i will get a chipper. i dont play full shot wedges.
also they have have called it the iChip
You should have been watching Mark Corssfield and Coach - they’ve been using the Cleveland chopper for quite a while now.
Andy never got around to answering the question of what wedge would he remove to have the Ping chipR replace it. Interested to know that answer.
What shoes are those that you are wearing James they are 🔥
I kept all my wedges and took out the club I mishit the most often, 3 hybrid
I would just put it from first cut of fringe. Would never play it more than 40yds out. Seems like a good choice for bump and runs or for when you want to get it over some crap grass.
Lol I love the way you guys across the pond use the work have where Americans would use the word has. Keep up the great work confusing me with your titles hahahahaha
@Ping Would love to see them make this club in 3 lofts. This one which is 38.5. And add a 44.5 and a 50.5. Don’t really need a Sandwedge or Lob. That’s not what these clubs are supposed to be for. But for us bump and run die hards, I would buy all 3.
I think a lot of average golfers (15+ handicap) who may have a 58 or 60 degree as their highest lofted wedge would be better off replacing it with a club like this. Especially if they are really struggling around the greens. Or at least try it and see the results. A 54 or 56 still works great around the greens and in the rough.
I would put one of those in my bag, but at close to $200, that's a hard pass for me.
andy and James wud love to see u both do a round at the plassey
Would of been interesting if you played alternating shots with a SW, 8i and the Ping Chipr and see the difference. I’m not convinced by it