Hey, finally something done about the ESFP that isn't about how they are only partiers and class clowns. Nice. I honestly do not know how people do anything without Se, but I am biased. I do find it hard to apply a concept to other areas.
As an INTP, sometimes I realize that I'm barely aware of my environment. My Ne ignores details that are irrelevant to what I'm thinking about, so if my dog starts barking at the door it might take me 30 seconds to even notice because I'm too focused on trying to figure out why Cheerios are rings instead of balls or something. Seriously, is it just for branding? Like to stand out? Because if so, Froot Loops totally stole their shtick. Maybe because spheres create more empty space when randomly distributed in a box, decreasing packaging efficiency. But then why put holes in the middle to create MORE empty space? Surely rounded pucks are more efficiently stored than rings. Anyway, shit like this is why I have to set an alarm to remind me to brush my teeth. If I don't impose some kind of structured routine on myself, I just disappear into my own head for hours, days, weeks at a time. I became so much more productive when I realized I'm not LAZY, I just exhaust myself when I overthink pointless crap.
@@BeinIan ENFP here... Lead Ne makes this the most relatable thing I’ve read all day. I’m both lead consume and blast last as well, which makes me terribly inefficient. There are times I stand in the bathroom in front of the sink for a half hour before I brush my teeth; I end up putting it off to think about new ideas or pace the floor while connecting mental dots. Timers are the ONLY reason I get ANYTHING accomplished.
@@brain1fluff hahaha! Well, we get done what we wanna get done. Mostly start stuff and get distracted and start something else. Staying focused until the end can be hard
Haha you guys typed me as an Se/Fi. Gathering is like second nature-many times I don’t even seek the stuff out, it just finds me. I don’t know how it happens. But I do often feel like I’m always learning but never really coming to a conclusion. And since I have blast last I have a terrible time explaining anything I’ve learned to anyone. And that video at the end is hilarious :P
yeah my gathering addiction will get so bad I have to get rid of my computer, so I use other functions. Knowing that even without me searching, enough will, like you said, find its way to me in this day n age
Yeah, I'm Se dominant and I consume information constantly. I put my cell phone in my hardhat at work and listen to YT videos or podcast all day long. I just took my phone out of my hardhat to make this comment lol. Good shit
I feel so called out. Having read absolutely everything I can find on MBTI for the past 5 years, I have finally worked out that my initial ESFP assessment is indeed correct...
This video just made me realise that I've mistyped myself big time. Thought I was an infj BUT Se the way you guys just described it made me understand how much I actually use it, so it must be one of my top functions for SURE
Exactly!!! Learning and constantly consuming new info is gathering data in a way that we almost never get credited for as ESFPs. I love this about being my type. Great comment.
@@user-ji5bd6pc6k good question. I’ve been officially typed as an ESTP since then, which I agree with. Overall, though, I look back at old comments like this and think… doesn’t every type like learning and collecting info, though? So… I kinda agree, but mostly think typology over-categorizes in areas that are more universal than the community would like to admit.
INTJ here. I agree about that point regarding ESFPs gathering as much data as they can when most other types don't, but the problem is that in doing so, they gather all the noise too. All the fake data gets picked up in their beliefs and since they never take the Ni time of sifting through it all, they give that info as much credibility as the rest, seeing it as a valid point of view when if they had just taken the time to check if it makes sense with the rest, they'd see it's total bs. My ESFP mom does that all the time, and it gets on my fucking nerves.
Honestly, INTJ's and us fight a lot, because INTJs want to take a little and turn it into a lot with logic, so they miss the details. That's why I can just see someone do something, do it, and through experience learn what I'm doing. The INTJ sees it, and then starts imagining things about it. You can delve into a skill and eventually be good at it by reiterating things a thousand times in your head, but I picked up 8 other skills in the meantime, and can combine those skills effortlessly, and I've been iterating on those skills to be useful tools I can use to interact with the real world. INTJs can have good ideas, but, you really need to work on humility and spend more time understanding the world as it really is, instead of the construct you lovingly crafted in your head. I have 165 IQ, I get the superiority complex, but you gotta drop it or you'll cut yourself off from reality. That feeling of superiority, unfortunately, is an emotion that blocks your eyes, you just don't consider it one.
I could be this one. Fi tells me something is interesting, Se makes me gather eeeeeverthing about it, Te I talk it through so it makes sense, Ni figures a take away and stores it in my head for my whole life. I call these obsessions and they happen regularly and I never know what, when will be next...
As an INTJ, once I went into the deep rabbit hole of understanding myself using MBTI, I was kinda like an ESFP, reading everything I could come across, all the books that existed, the blogs, the videos, forums, etc. Wow, learning about ESFP helps me a lot to understand myself better.
Te, Fi or Fe with leading Se will all have trouble before they're satisfied. Simply because before value is judged to be accurate and relevant, the underlaying pattern must become apparent. Without Ne, Ni or Ti there's no endless source of information or a way to judge principle correctness (underlaying pattern). Therefore, Each of those types will have take in extraordinary amount of sensory to overcome principle thinking limitations by sheer correlation. Consequently, all you have to learn is that if you're stuck, you'll apply either Ne, Ni or Ti to find new insights or derive principle correctness.
Hmm, maybe I am an Se-dom, despite not really fitting the stereotypes about sensory stuff. I've really been on an obsession with this type stuff trying to gather information. It's like I think that if I gather enough, my existential uncertainties and problems with going in circles will resolve themselves or something through the synthesis, idk. This isn't the first time I got into it either, I was into MBTI before some years ago. Like why am I even here on a year old video watching this? Because I'm chasing investigating ESFP as a possibility for me, hoping something will click into place that I'm missing, something more in-depth beyond stereotypes about the type. Part of me thinks I'm falling into that bias of trying to make it fit, but I think I'm driven to chase it because the alternative explanations are so incomplete. Under what couch are the remaining puzzle pieces hiding, so I can make it fit and feel secure in some sense of confidence in myself, ya know. Maybe that's just normal of an existential crisis, idk, but yeah. There is my embarrassing thought process that no one will read. XD
Being aware of trends is not necessarily an Fe thing, more like an Se trait. INTPs are notoriously clueless about fashion trends yet they use 4th function Fe.
@@poopypoopasticpoopypoopoo Yet Se users in general tend to be much better at style than Si users are. I never said that "sensors" (aka Si/Se heroes/parents aka SJs and SPs) are only aware of clothing trends. Quite frankly E/INFJs and E/INTJs are amazing at taking care of their looks and dressing elegantly due to their Se child or aspiring Se inferior which wants to give others a good experience. Se users are aware how they come off to other people, Si users are not as much.
As a lead Ni owner I've had that weird feeling that I know the topic really well, so I don't need to reaserch more and just focus on making my own assumptions and further theories. But because I have discovered that I am lead Ni, I am literally forcing myself to reaserch more, even if I feel it's a waste of time. Since then I noticed I finally started moving forward towards my goal and my understanding of reality is much much better.
I know a saviour Se that every time he realises he's dating an asshole instead of TRUSTING HIS INTUITION go and try to GATHER MORE EVIDENCE. And we all are like "dude she's an idiot!!! Come on!!!!" And he be like "I know but I HAVE TO HAVE ONE MORE LAST TALK WITH HER"... Really annoying. Then he blame himself for waiting too long to get out of that relationship.
That's not annoying that's trying to be sure about something you cannot know unless you learned more about it. Pretty smart! You can be sure that next time this person will know better!
It’s interesting to hear the Se perspective because... maybe just to me...it’s so much like Ne, but instead of gathering concepts it’s gathering literal data, which just sounds mindboggingly stressful and overwhelming lol. As someone who has Ne I can totally relate to that fear of “everything being able to be paired down into 4 boxes”, but instead of boxes it’s possibilities.
We can beat them on their demons all day long but we really fi love, admire and slightly envy their saviors. P.S. I love the comprehensive fashion in which you present insights from MBTI and more. A joy to listen, watch and learn
As lead Se, I often wondered how those with more Ni could be less “big picture” than me. I think when Ni is a primary, more conscious function used to figure out everything at hand, it’s easy to take for granted the deep subconscious “crystallization” mode. For secondary perceiving, it’s the extra special function that asks “but what does it all mean?”
O my word I have been trying to figure out my type for like 13 years! I have read so much, watched so many videos, I even changed my major to psychology. I now have an A.S., a B.S., a M.A. and I am working on a D.S.L and an E.D.D. but it is after months of watching and reading yals stuff that I can c that I am definitely Se. I have been exhausting my Se. I think I am ESFP but because I have long lost my silliness I didn't recognize it.
This must be why ESFPs are the most addicted to social media. You can often catch them watching cringey TikTok videos. It's like, "What's out there in the here and now?! How can I connect with the world?!"
It takes SO LONG to figure out who we are and what we want out of our lives though. And if we are Play Blast with Sleep last with ADHD, you finally start earning at like age 40. So behind >.
A major problem in INTP employment is that I'll skip straight to Si and Ne as fast as I can. I'll also be abit sloppy at the Si, not fully using it to its potential. Then I'll be doing a godlike amount of Ne, often drawing conclusions from minimal knowledge. But that's not always sufficient. Then I'll feel stuck on the project cause my logic on what to do next and how to do it can't find an answer in my Ne and Si. By the time a project has started Se is way too late in the game. Then I'll wonder *"Why am I so stuck on this, everyone ells seems to be doing fine?"* I can't possibly be stupid so why? This is why INTPs can only work with tasks that interest them cause that curiosity will drive Se like actions that they wouldn't otherwise take. Even worse whenever I have a generalized understanding (Ne) of a subject I will get bored of it and not bother learning details. *"I-already-get-this-syndrome."* Then I can bluff my way through school and uni cause even on the tests most things can be inferred (Ti) by how the questions are phrased (Ne). As long as there is some peripheral knowledge and general understanding anyway. So i wind up with alot more superficial understanding *than I think I have* on the topics that weren't utterly interesting.
My mom's an ESFP, I love her, but I (INFJ) can't tell her anything without overreactions and incorrect assumptions, so I always keep things I genuinely care about to myself or on a surface level.
yes Im seeing I need to jump into my NI sooner, then go back to gathering and iterate on NI rather than procrastinating starting because I dont understand everything yet
This sounds familiar. In my case though, whenever I have gathered every "how" my Ne could find, I'm just stuck with the question, "That sounds easy, why am I struggling?" And I've been writing a story for a week now and my brain suddenly clicked with the realization that it's only easy when I actually do shit. I still struggle with this a lot, but it's progress if anything at all.
Lead Ne user here who’s an aspiring writer- THIS. If left unchecked, I’ll spend years balancing all of the concepts and ideas in my head before realizing that you can take them apart in a different, much easier way once you put them on paper. I always tend to think the story has to completely formulate itself in my mind before I even start, even though that mindset is such an obvious trap.
You like us 😂???? Haha I don’t…. We suck. I hate us Haha and Joyce says I’m an ENFP so haha Dave you can’t see me if you wanted to. I’m your worst nightmare either way.😅 love you guys so much ❤😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉that’s literal fi.
This makes me feel less bad about watching every single video I can find on topic X that is interesting to me at that moment. Waiting for that Ni insight to strike. Any day now...
These types have traditionally gotten little love in typing. But in our current circumstances, we have discovered how essential they are. Is it safe to go downtown now? Are they wearing masks at that store? Maybe we should just sit down and watch a movie right now, we might b here awhile. Would totally follow an evolved esfp religiously right now - just to get the essential Ni for the day - in fun way.
I love ESFPs! They are the better with people version of myself! Ha.... such an Fi savior thing to say in a round about way that iI love me. Lol well someone has to in this world....🤪🤪
I’m shocked. I understand that here “introverted/extraverted” relate to functions. But it’s so weird to think of myself as an extrovert. Although here it doesn’t mean that I’m sociable. I always was an introvert. On MBTI tests, too. But I never expected ESFP!! Yet what you describe here is totally about me. Well, unless I’m an ISFP. Which sounded also similar in your videos. Though I think I’m an observer. In the end, I could say that I might circulate between the same functions: Se, Te, Fi, Ni. And I find similar moments in all four types connected with these functions.
Speaking from my experience as a former catering attendant, the song might as well be what I see old white people dancing to when they are drunk at the end of a wedding reception.
ESFP gather information unconsciously right? And they won’t even get tired, For example when they seat with new people for the first time they will remember everything about them bcs they have collected all of it Unlike other types like lead intuition, they have to work and focus really hard in order to remember people and their info Am I correct?
It's so cool to see the panic with simplicity in the Ni. My Si assume that role in the pricess and is actually reasuring to go to the simplest concept (nuclear bit of information). How cool!
Interesting, as an INTP i conversely don't gather information like an Se but instead I try to make what I already have perfect. Only when my curiosity drives me to find things out do i get information, which can happen a whole lot, especially if my Ti and Ne are causing curiosity i then *HAVE* to obtain it to gain closure. Being Se blind I gather very little for the sake of Te, Ni or Fi.
What I've seen being Ni/Fi SC is that Ni doms usually disrespect gathering facts but there's a HUGE difference between Ni SC and Ni BS/BP. Ni blasters will usually work that way: gathering some data and fastly jump to conclusions, but having Ni with consume works in a different way. I see it as a constant need for finding connections but at the same time taking its time to research.
By nature of Ni, it doesn't give you certainty at all. Ni will try to generate patterns found in information it has seen, which then tries to compare to memory loosely. Which means Ni by itself will always give you approximate ideas or analogies, but no way to tell if they're relevant or not. This is what Si excells at. Taking time to research is just a coping mechanism so the certainty of found of solution can be determined. In other words, either relying on other people to make sense of the approximate patterns compared to the patterns of memory, or using Ti to describe the Se relationship between pattern and observation. Te can't do its work without having some certainty of patterns being coupled to the Se. This also means that anyone who leads with Te will have a lot of certainty, but not as much information as for example, Ti leading with Se or Ne. As you say, if you're a blaster or player, you're more inclined to just skip the rationality process (Te) and assume a certain relevancy based on other experiences (Si or Ni). Even if you lead with Te, the lack of Si experience could make you narrow minded. F however would not find any certainty at all combined with Ne, because little to none of the sensory patterns are used to justify the actual meaning behind obversation. More assumptions are made based on the values rather than observation. It's allowing the values to lead (adjust expectations to new observation) over the principle correctness (adjust experience to match observation). In my opinion, you'll want to be both the producer and interferer of experience; you want it to run its course until you observe any discomfort. In such a case, you'll adjust the to the renewed experience (fight), do nothing (confusion) or exit (flight).
FeSe demon, it seems if not careful it can get pop pyschology like, which I am sure is easily digestible, but what about the iceberg of the mechanics havent been cracked yet?
My dad is esfp 🤦♀️🤫😅😂🤣Love him enormously but he drives me mad 😠🤔🤯😂Ye ENFJ and ESFP,,, hmmm no no really! So different... unless I am in Se mode, all fun and awesome... my Ni mesmerises him😂🤣😂😂
Would you say Brene Brown is an ESFP then? This sounds just like the process she used to distill her theory from her research - check out her TED talk where she explains how she did it.
Wait i am still ”what do you mean” when he said that you can apply the same consepts in organizing your house as in psychology?? Someone explain please //esfp
What is your stance on Se being connected with how one can navigate through physical environment? Or with how one can dress? I typed myself as INFP and I’m very clumsy (when not paying attention) with poor sense of style. Can I be ESFP with such characteristics?
I kinda like that Dave and Shan don't give much attention to INTPs (like me). A lot of channels and forums for type butter up and cater to us and it's less "eat your vegetables," which is kind of what I like about OP. That said, favorite types for a limited time is kind of a fun favoritism to indulge.
Can you guy's make a video about SC . I get gathers with consume demon from your consume last video . But I want to know about the opposite, organiser's with blast demon .
Its a long story. It has to do with letting your subconscious mind believe that the information you're gathering is directly involved in survival and maintenance thereof, but giving it all the means to deal with it so it doesn't freak out. In other words: learning facts is facilitated by feeling a specific calm way (meditation gets you in this state of mind, so think mindfullness), frame of references you can use to find similar experiences (life experience) and a source of information that presents the information in such a way that speaks natural to you. I find learning the FACTS of OPS harder than learning the principles. Its because the SF style videos don't speak to me because they're constrained but chaotic. A similar thing may be happening to you. Other that that: My advice is to just keep at it, and allow yourself time to absorb the information if that's what you want.
My experience with Esfp..... never satisfied with fulfilling their "like"... no rhyme or reason.... same with people. They're disposable. You're just someone they "gather", you're interesting until you're not.
Esfp, really really likable tho. You can't hate them. They make you feel loved. I don't doubt it's genuine, they just get over it really quickly. They just don't want to take responsibility for themselves or their lives. Their children suffer. Popularity has a lot of value. They can connect authentically, deeply... but get bored eventually and move on.
@@x-mess They are great parents, you're crazy if you say that. You're right about the abandonment Because they lack Si, they can forget easily. They will have the experiences, but slowly forget all of the old experiences as new ones come in. If they are of less quality, then you slowly just become an used up shell. It gets even worse because it can happen on the reverse for ESFP's, and their weakspot is abandonment. They will grow a hatred for everyone and trust noone. This happens a ton with ESFP female's, because of the whole manchild society. They don't mean to do this, they're not hardwired to remember things well, which damages people. Infact they feel sympathy for those other people, but you can't force them to see things in you they can't see anymore. Unless you show consistent dedication (Si), you're just going to get forgotten The people ESFP's stay with are usually SFJ's/NTP's, as these types become ones they can lean on consistently, making them a need in their life. You have to be there no matter what in the early relationship with an ESFP, or their insecurities will oversee you as a bad person who will abandon them
@@fib4983 as far as what I saw, esfp are fun loving parents but lack consistancy and stability. It's awesome when you're a kid bc life's a party... but parties get old.. sometimes the kids ARE the parents to esfp's. It's sad to see actually... bc if you say anything to the esfp you're a party pooper but they're so far in the pendulum swing that they don't take the time to see it. If they do, it's not for long bc they're on to the next high... whatever that happens to be at the moment. You're right about abandonment... the ones I saw are looking for prince charming to solve their problems and rescue them bc they don't want to do it themselves. They leave the esfp bc nobody wants a kid for a partner... again no accountability, not long term anyways.
I'm seeing myself and I don't like it... The judge is still out on whether I'm really this type or not, though. I need more information. ... I know, I know, but seriously. Frankly, I wish I could collapse everything into four defined boxes. I feel like the whole world can be explained in a single sentence, I'm just not seeing it...yet. (Not to mention, the rest of the world wouldn't (want to) believe it anyway.) And yes, I do have trouble applying stuff outside of its box. I know all this stuff about how humans work; now, how to apply it to actual humans? I think part of the Se gathering game is that it's fun to do (addiction) so when everything can be defined in one or two sentences it's like, "Oh, my toy just broke."
I think I'm INTP. My reason for not constantly gathering facts (Se) is that I assume that the facts are likely irrelevant. For example, why would I read all philosophical or psychological treatises that were formulated within a world that is full of violence, corruption, abuse, domination, and illusion? Wouldn't it make sense to assume that the treatises must have been unsatisfactory since the world hasn't been fixed? Obviously, you won't find a golden key if all the doors are still locked. So I just skimmed and then worked on a new philosophy. People who search through the known mistakenly think that some golden key has been overlooked. Don't bother looking. There's nothing there.
Their Se Te can create a much better teaching system then most other types. Their big picture thinking adds things together for other people, instead of some who force facts down your throat ESFP as students though depends on their passion. Their Ni needs to feel certain about it, or they're just going to distract themselves. Once there is a certainty, you can't stop them, unless uncertainty builds again. If only education was like, built specifically to help certain types of people overcome their struggles, and ESFP's maybe could actually have their miracle of brilliance if they didn't get rubber capped by the ESTJ system. "Learn this, and learn this"
They put in the work to properly understand something before they teach it. They can make some of the best teachers if they put in the work. They end up understanding the patterns and all of the subtle nuances.
@Tommy Hass Tommy Hass Any ESFP in general. They have the tools required. Savor and Demon, as of OP's system, will act differently obviously, but both can be amazing. The real important thing is passion, you need to have something to strive towards that is worth more the pain. Mozart is also my favorite example of an ESFP. Addicted passion into music, shear dedication to improving his skills in music. and no I didnt notice
@@ridorock6 i doubt it. Ni needs to kinda build head models, and you cannot do that if you dont master something??? But again, we cant discard the possibility i am not and Infj either
i don't like how your system promotes machiavellian approach. I was manipulated in a "study" i didn't consent to. in a conversation i didn't want to be in.
Hey, finally something done about the ESFP that isn't about how they are only partiers and class clowns. Nice. I honestly do not know how people do anything without Se, but I am biased. I do find it hard to apply a concept to other areas.
From my perspective, I don't know how you could get anything done with Se.
@@brain1fluff I think they done it through Ni
As an INTP, sometimes I realize that I'm barely aware of my environment. My Ne ignores details that are irrelevant to what I'm thinking about, so if my dog starts barking at the door it might take me 30 seconds to even notice because I'm too focused on trying to figure out why Cheerios are rings instead of balls or something.
Seriously, is it just for branding? Like to stand out? Because if so, Froot Loops totally stole their shtick.
Maybe because spheres create more empty space when randomly distributed in a box, decreasing packaging efficiency. But then why put holes in the middle to create MORE empty space? Surely rounded pucks are more efficiently stored than rings.
Anyway, shit like this is why I have to set an alarm to remind me to brush my teeth. If I don't impose some kind of structured routine on myself, I just disappear into my own head for hours, days, weeks at a time. I became so much more productive when I realized I'm not LAZY, I just exhaust myself when I overthink pointless crap.
@@BeinIan ENFP here... Lead Ne makes this the most relatable thing I’ve read all day. I’m both lead consume and blast last as well, which makes me terribly inefficient. There are times I stand in the bathroom in front of the sink for a half hour before I brush my teeth; I end up putting it off to think about new ideas or pace the floor while connecting mental dots. Timers are the ONLY reason I get ANYTHING accomplished.
@@brain1fluff hahaha! Well, we get done what we wanna get done. Mostly start stuff and get distracted and start something else. Staying focused until the end can be hard
Haha you guys typed me as an Se/Fi. Gathering is like second nature-many times I don’t even seek the stuff out, it just finds me. I don’t know how it happens. But I do often feel like I’m always learning but never really coming to a conclusion. And since I have blast last I have a terrible time explaining anything I’ve learned to anyone. And that video at the end is hilarious :P
yeah my gathering addiction will get so bad I have to get rid of my computer, so I use other functions. Knowing that even without me searching, enough will, like you said, find its way to me in this day n age
Yeah, I'm Se dominant and I consume information constantly. I put my cell phone in my hardhat at work and listen to YT videos or podcast all day long. I just took my phone out of my hardhat to make this comment lol.
Good shit
Lol I listen to OP on youtube in background while listening to another video on my tablet
That song at the end is a jam...
I feel so called out. Having read absolutely everything I can find on MBTI for the past 5 years, I have finally worked out that my initial ESFP assessment is indeed correct...
"I don't want to start a series"
TOO LATE DAVE! Are the ENTJs next? Pretty please? :D
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo wut dream
Too bad they dont even read the comments..
OH PLEASE more ENTJ videos ❤️
This video just made me realise that I've mistyped myself big time. Thought I was an infj BUT Se the way you guys just described it made me understand how much I actually use it, so it must be one of my top functions for SURE
We all mistype ourselves it's hilarious
@@amidreaming333 This makes me feel so much better about mistyping myself as INFP. Nope, just a depressed INTP.
Same with me ;). And I love me being an ESFP more and more
It doesn’t feel like wasting time because learning new things doesn’t get old.
Yes!!!
Exactly!!! Learning and constantly consuming new info is gathering data in a way that we almost never get credited for as ESFPs. I love this about being my type. Great comment.
@@sirbradfordofhousejonesdo you still agree
@@user-ji5bd6pc6k good question. I’ve been officially typed as an ESTP since then, which I agree with. Overall, though, I look back at old comments like this and think… doesn’t every type like learning and collecting info, though? So… I kinda agree, but mostly think typology over-categorizes in areas that are more universal than the community would like to admit.
Flavor of the month? Hahaha! Spot on! Keep up on making this so that the world will know that we ESFPs aren't not just pleasure-seekers!
Right brother! We’re deep
I Fi LOVE THIS VIDEO. My Se needs more of these.
ISTPs are demoted for sending too many emails 😜
hahahah yes
I’m still voting for ISTP! - ENFJ
@@danad401 wow I had the same idea before
INTJ here. I agree about that point regarding ESFPs gathering as much data as they can when most other types don't, but the problem is that in doing so, they gather all the noise too. All the fake data gets picked up in their beliefs and since they never take the Ni time of sifting through it all, they give that info as much credibility as the rest, seeing it as a valid point of view when if they had just taken the time to check if it makes sense with the rest, they'd see it's total bs. My ESFP mom does that all the time, and it gets on my fucking nerves.
Honestly, INTJ's and us fight a lot, because INTJs want to take a little and turn it into a lot with logic, so they miss the details. That's why I can just see someone do something, do it, and through experience learn what I'm doing. The INTJ sees it, and then starts imagining things about it. You can delve into a skill and eventually be good at it by reiterating things a thousand times in your head, but I picked up 8 other skills in the meantime, and can combine those skills effortlessly, and I've been iterating on those skills to be useful tools I can use to interact with the real world.
INTJs can have good ideas, but, you really need to work on humility and spend more time understanding the world as it really is, instead of the construct you lovingly crafted in your head. I have 165 IQ, I get the superiority complex, but you gotta drop it or you'll cut yourself off from reality. That feeling of superiority, unfortunately, is an emotion that blocks your eyes, you just don't consider it one.
I could be this one. Fi tells me something is interesting, Se makes me gather eeeeeverthing about it, Te I talk it through so it makes sense, Ni figures a take away and stores it in my head for my whole life. I call these obsessions and they happen regularly and I never know what, when will be next...
this channel is a vibe.
Haha the end video is a perfect demonstration of Se/Ni! 😂
Too true!
Different Se sensory (different people dancing in different places), but under the same Ni concept (“evaculation goin' on”) 😂😂😂
What is evaculation?
Well done, guys! Best one yet!!
Always loved ESFPs
No surprise, i am an ESFP 😆
FF SeFi CSPB
As an INTJ, once I went into the deep rabbit hole of understanding myself using MBTI, I was kinda like an ESFP, reading everything I could come across, all the books that existed, the blogs, the videos, forums, etc. Wow, learning about ESFP helps me a lot to understand myself better.
I've watched tons of personality video's for years. It can take a long time before Se savior is satisfied...
Te, Fi or Fe with leading Se will all have trouble before they're satisfied. Simply because before value is judged to be accurate and relevant, the underlaying pattern must become apparent. Without Ne, Ni or Ti there's no endless source of information or a way to judge principle correctness (underlaying pattern). Therefore, Each of those types will have take in extraordinary amount of sensory to overcome principle thinking limitations by sheer correlation.
Consequently, all you have to learn is that if you're stuck, you'll apply either Ne, Ni or Ti to find new insights or derive principle correctness.
Us ESFPs are getting a lot of hate on the internet XD
We are?
Hmm, maybe I am an Se-dom, despite not really fitting the stereotypes about sensory stuff. I've really been on an obsession with this type stuff trying to gather information. It's like I think that if I gather enough, my existential uncertainties and problems with going in circles will resolve themselves or something through the synthesis, idk. This isn't the first time I got into it either, I was into MBTI before some years ago. Like why am I even here on a year old video watching this? Because I'm chasing investigating ESFP as a possibility for me, hoping something will click into place that I'm missing, something more in-depth beyond stereotypes about the type. Part of me thinks I'm falling into that bias of trying to make it fit, but I think I'm driven to chase it because the alternative explanations are so incomplete. Under what couch are the remaining puzzle pieces hiding, so I can make it fit and feel secure in some sense of confidence in myself, ya know. Maybe that's just normal of an existential crisis, idk, but yeah. There is my embarrassing thought process that no one will read. XD
I have adjusted my personality to ESFP now..My Fe is totally keeping up with the trends
Being aware of trends is not necessarily an Fe thing, more like an Se trait. INTPs are notoriously clueless about fashion trends yet they use 4th function Fe.
@@poopypoopasticpoopypoopoo Yet Se users in general tend to be much better at style than Si users are. I never said that "sensors" (aka Si/Se heroes/parents aka SJs and SPs) are only aware of clothing trends. Quite frankly E/INFJs and E/INTJs are amazing at taking care of their looks and dressing elegantly due to their Se child or aspiring Se inferior which wants to give others a good experience. Se users are aware how they come off to other people, Si users are not as much.
I have never understood most of your ending videos, but this one was EPIC! It was funny, fun, and the song was fire! 🔥 🔥 🔥 👏 👏 👏
(Ni/Fe)
As a lead Ni owner I've had that weird feeling that I know the topic really well, so I don't need to reaserch more and just focus on making my own assumptions and further theories. But because I have discovered that I am lead Ni, I am literally forcing myself to reaserch more, even if I feel it's a waste of time. Since then I noticed I finally started moving forward towards my goal and my understanding of reality is much much better.
I know a saviour Se that every time he realises he's dating an asshole instead of TRUSTING HIS INTUITION go and try to GATHER MORE EVIDENCE. And we all are like "dude she's an idiot!!! Come on!!!!" And he be like "I know but I HAVE TO HAVE ONE MORE LAST TALK WITH HER"... Really annoying. Then he blame himself for waiting too long to get out of that relationship.
That's not annoying that's trying to be sure about something you cannot know unless you learned more about it. Pretty smart! You can be sure that next time this person will know better!
It’s interesting to hear the Se perspective because... maybe just to me...it’s so much like Ne, but instead of gathering concepts it’s gathering literal data, which just sounds mindboggingly stressful and overwhelming lol. As someone who has Ne I can totally relate to that fear of “everything being able to be paired down into 4 boxes”, but instead of boxes it’s possibilities.
That's so true! For Ne, acknowledging that there are limited possibilities of outcome is difficult. Also, we do find novel ways every now and then :)
ESFP stands for Extra Sensory Factual Perception. As an INTJ, I'm terrified w/ that power! xD
Can we all just take a moment to admire Shannon's hair blow outs. They're amazing! Oh yea, the video content is good too obviously.
We can beat them on their demons all day long but we really fi love, admire and slightly envy their saviors.
P.S. I love the comprehensive fashion in which you present insights from MBTI and more. A joy to listen, watch and learn
I heard once a quote that said “there is no wasted knowledge” if you’re not using it now it will be useful tomorrow
As lead Se, I often wondered how those with more Ni could be less “big picture” than me. I think when Ni is a primary, more conscious function used to figure out everything at hand, it’s easy to take for granted the deep subconscious “crystallization” mode. For secondary perceiving, it’s the extra special function that asks “but what does it all mean?”
EVACULATE was the best bit 🕺🏾🕺🏾
O my word I have been trying to figure out my type for like 13 years! I have read so much, watched so many videos, I even changed my major to psychology. I now have an A.S., a B.S., a M.A. and I am working on a D.S.L and an E.D.D. but it is after months of watching and reading yals stuff that I can c that I am definitely Se. I have been exhausting my Se. I think I am ESFP but because I have long lost my silliness I didn't recognize it.
"Favorite Type (fi) Right Now (se)"
I see what you did there
This must be why ESFPs are the most addicted to social media. You can often catch them watching cringey TikTok videos. It's like, "What's out there in the here and now?! How can I connect with the world?!"
It takes SO LONG to figure out who we are and what we want out of our lives though. And if we are Play Blast with Sleep last with ADHD, you finally start earning at like age 40. So behind >.
A major problem in INTP employment is that I'll skip straight to Si and Ne as fast as I can.
I'll also be abit sloppy at the Si, not fully using it to its potential.
Then I'll be doing a godlike amount of Ne, often drawing conclusions from minimal knowledge.
But that's not always sufficient.
Then I'll feel stuck on the project cause my logic on what to do next and how to do it can't find an answer in my Ne and Si.
By the time a project has started Se is way too late in the game.
Then I'll wonder *"Why am I so stuck on this, everyone ells seems to be doing fine?"* I can't possibly be stupid so why?
This is why INTPs can only work with tasks that interest them cause that curiosity will drive Se like actions that they wouldn't otherwise take.
Even worse whenever I have a generalized understanding (Ne) of a subject I will get bored of it and not bother learning details.
*"I-already-get-this-syndrome."*
Then I can bluff my way through school and uni cause even on the tests most things can be inferred (Ti) by how the questions are phrased (Ne). As long as there is some peripheral knowledge and general understanding anyway.
So i wind up with alot more superficial understanding *than I think I have* on the topics that weren't utterly interesting.
I’m NI and I used to gather less but I was wrong a few times and it cured me , I hate being wrong
ESFP is the opposite of INTJ, but is the coolest of all personalities, the personality of most black people.
I also Fi love this video!!! Died laughing at the end
My mom's an ESFP, I love her, but I (INFJ) can't tell her anything without overreactions and incorrect assumptions, so I always keep things I genuinely care about to myself or on a surface level.
Ohhh! That’s sad! Try approaches til you find one that works! She really cares and wants to know!
yes Im seeing I need to jump into my NI sooner, then go back to gathering and iterate on NI rather than procrastinating starting because I dont understand everything yet
This sounds familiar. In my case though, whenever I have gathered every "how" my Ne could find, I'm just stuck with the question, "That sounds easy, why am I struggling?" And I've been writing a story for a week now and my brain suddenly clicked with the realization that it's only easy when I actually do shit. I still struggle with this a lot, but it's progress if anything at all.
Lead Ne user here who’s an aspiring writer- THIS. If left unchecked, I’ll spend years balancing all of the concepts and ideas in my head before realizing that you can take them apart in a different, much easier way once you put them on paper. I always tend to think the story has to completely formulate itself in my mind before I even start, even though that mindset is such an obvious trap.
As an INTJ with consume savior, I work the same way! Except that the collapse into boxes excites me.
Thanks. Appreciate it :)
Fun fact is that I’m an ISTP and my brother is an ESFP
You guys sure do like your facts!
How is that fun?
Sylvia Lopez I don’t know
You like us 😂???? Haha I don’t…. We suck. I hate us Haha and Joyce says I’m an ENFP so haha Dave you can’t see me if you wanted to. I’m your worst nightmare either way.😅 love you guys so much ❤😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉that’s literal fi.
This makes me feel less bad about watching every single video I can find on topic X that is interesting to me at that moment. Waiting for that Ni insight to strike. Any day now...
As an ISTP, I'm deeply hurt 🌚😂😂
These types have traditionally gotten little love in typing. But in our current circumstances, we have discovered how essential they are. Is it safe to go downtown now? Are they wearing masks at that store? Maybe we should just sit down and watch a movie right now, we might b here awhile. Would totally follow an evolved esfp religiously right now - just to get the essential Ni for the day - in fun way.
That was great! Hahaha! Perfect way to end the video!
I love ESFPs! They are the better with people version of myself! Ha.... such an Fi savior thing to say in a round about way that iI love me. Lol well someone has to in this world....🤪🤪
Sheila w Lol! 😋 I hope all is well, Sheila!
U guys should do videos like that for every type
Rip istps, my forever favorites 😅👏🏼❤️
Oh my...this is so true
I’m shocked. I understand that here “introverted/extraverted” relate to functions. But it’s so weird to think of myself as an extrovert. Although here it doesn’t mean that I’m sociable. I always was an introvert. On MBTI tests, too. But I never expected ESFP!! Yet what you describe here is totally about me.
Well, unless I’m an ISFP. Which sounded also similar in your videos. Though I think I’m an observer.
In the end, I could say that I might circulate between the same functions: Se, Te, Fi, Ni. And I find similar moments in all four types connected with these functions.
Speaking from my experience as a former catering attendant, the song might as well be what I see old white people dancing to when they are drunk at the end of a wedding reception.
Hmm as an INTP i hate to say i can relate to this "all perspectives" thing
ESFP gather information unconsciously right? And they won’t even get tired, For example when they seat with new people for the first time they will remember everything about them bcs they have collected all of it
Unlike other types like lead intuition, they have to work and focus really hard in order to remember people and their info
Am I correct?
It's so cool to see the panic with simplicity in the Ni. My Si assume that role in the pricess and is actually reasuring to go to the simplest concept (nuclear bit of information). How cool!
Interesting, as an INTP i conversely don't gather information like an Se but instead I try to make what I already have perfect.
Only when my curiosity drives me to find things out do i get information, which can happen a whole lot, especially if my Ti and Ne are causing curiosity i then *HAVE* to obtain it to gain closure.
Being Se blind I gather very little for the sake of Te, Ni or Fi.
What about ESTP’s. They’re also saviour Se.
Plus they are Ti awesome 😎
What do you mean with Ti awesome?
5:00 lmao, literally my dad, now i know hes an Fi ESFP
What I've seen being Ni/Fi SC is that Ni doms usually disrespect gathering facts but there's a HUGE difference between Ni SC and Ni BS/BP. Ni blasters will usually work that way: gathering some data and fastly jump to conclusions, but having Ni with consume works in a different way. I see it as a constant need for finding connections but at the same time taking its time to research.
By nature of Ni, it doesn't give you certainty at all. Ni will try to generate patterns found in information it has seen, which then tries to compare to memory loosely. Which means Ni by itself will always give you approximate ideas or analogies, but no way to tell if they're relevant or not. This is what Si excells at. Taking time to research is just a coping mechanism so the certainty of found of solution can be determined. In other words, either relying on other people to make sense of the approximate patterns compared to the patterns of memory, or using Ti to describe the Se relationship between pattern and observation. Te can't do its work without having some certainty of patterns being coupled to the Se. This also means that anyone who leads with Te will have a lot of certainty, but not as much information as for example, Ti leading with Se or Ne.
As you say, if you're a blaster or player, you're more inclined to just skip the rationality process (Te) and assume a certain relevancy based on other experiences (Si or Ni). Even if you lead with Te, the lack of Si experience could make you narrow minded. F however would not find any certainty at all combined with Ne, because little to none of the sensory patterns are used to justify the actual meaning behind obversation. More assumptions are made based on the values rather than observation. It's allowing the values to lead (adjust expectations to new observation) over the principle correctness (adjust experience to match observation).
In my opinion, you'll want to be both the producer and interferer of experience; you want it to run its course until you observe any discomfort. In such a case, you'll adjust the to the renewed experience (fight), do nothing (confusion) or exit (flight).
FeSe demon, it seems if not careful it can get pop pyschology like, which I am sure is easily digestible, but what about the iceberg of the mechanics havent been cracked yet?
Esfps are my favorite
Evaculation goin on
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo what do you not get?
Evaculation goin' oon
Why did my ass immediately start dancing at 7:40?
I hope this comment won't make you hate them, but you have almost no videos out on ISFPs. Can you tell us a little more about them?
Dasy Taylor Bravo 👏 Even though- I should know, living with one😅😂🤣🤣😂😇
"Do me next!" "Haha, you're fucking Fi"
Me, a saviour Fi INFP, wanting INFP to get done next: *fuck*
My dad is esfp 🤦♀️🤫😅😂🤣Love him enormously but he drives me mad 😠🤔🤯😂Ye ENFJ and ESFP,,, hmmm no no really! So different... unless I am in Se mode, all fun and awesome... my Ni mesmerises him😂🤣😂😂
Would you say Brene Brown is an ESFP then? This sounds just like the process she used to distill her theory from her research - check out her TED talk where she explains how she did it.
Wait i am still ”what do you mean” when he said that you can apply the same consepts in organizing your house as in psychology?? Someone explain please //esfp
7:00 ”Being able to transfere the consepts” transfere what, transfere psychology conspets to organizing the house?
What is your stance on Se being connected with how one can navigate through physical environment? Or with how one can dress?
I typed myself as INFP and I’m very clumsy (when not paying attention) with poor sense of style.
Can I be ESFP with such characteristics?
You guys are Jordon Peterson fans!!?!!!?
I kinda like that Dave and Shan don't give much attention to INTPs (like me). A lot of channels and forums for type butter up and cater to us and it's less "eat your vegetables," which is kind of what I like about OP. That said, favorite types for a limited time is kind of a fun favoritism to indulge.
Wait…how IS it the same? (Psychology and organizing your house for example)
My parents are your favourites... And I'm just a problematic INFJ... O:
Can you guy's make a video about SC . I get gathers with consume demon from your consume last video . But I want to know about the opposite, organiser's with blast demon .
How do people actually manage to put all these facts into their heads, I don't understand.
Its a long story. It has to do with letting your subconscious mind believe that the information you're gathering is directly involved in survival and maintenance thereof, but giving it all the means to deal with it so it doesn't freak out.
In other words: learning facts is facilitated by feeling a specific calm way (meditation gets you in this state of mind, so think mindfullness), frame of references you can use to find similar experiences (life experience) and a source of information that presents the information in such a way that speaks natural to you.
I find learning the FACTS of OPS harder than learning the principles. Its because the SF style videos don't speak to me because they're constrained but chaotic. A similar thing may be happening to you.
Other that that: My advice is to just keep at it, and allow yourself time to absorb the information if that's what you want.
Please make video how ENTP Jumper is the best type.
My experience with Esfp..... never satisfied with fulfilling their "like"... no rhyme or reason.... same with people. They're disposable. You're just someone they "gather", you're interesting until you're not.
Esfp, really really likable tho. You can't hate them. They make you feel loved. I don't doubt it's genuine, they just get over it really quickly.
They just don't want to take responsibility for themselves or their lives. Their children suffer. Popularity has a lot of value. They can connect authentically, deeply... but get bored eventually and move on.
@@x-mess They are great parents, you're crazy if you say that.
You're right about the abandonment
Because they lack Si, they can forget easily.
They will have the experiences, but slowly forget all of the old experiences as new ones come in. If they are of less quality, then you slowly just become an used up shell.
It gets even worse because it can happen on the reverse for ESFP's, and their weakspot is abandonment. They will grow a hatred for everyone and trust noone. This happens a ton with ESFP female's, because of the whole manchild society.
They don't mean to do this, they're not hardwired to remember things well, which damages people. Infact they feel sympathy for those other people, but you can't force them to see things in you they can't see anymore.
Unless you show consistent dedication (Si), you're just going to get forgotten
The people ESFP's stay with are usually SFJ's/NTP's, as these types become ones they can lean on consistently, making them a need in their life.
You have to be there no matter what in the early relationship with an ESFP, or their insecurities will oversee you as a bad person who will abandon them
@@fib4983 as far as what I saw, esfp are fun loving parents but lack consistancy and stability. It's awesome when you're a kid bc life's a party... but parties get old.. sometimes the kids ARE the parents to esfp's. It's sad to see actually... bc if you say anything to the esfp you're a party pooper but they're so far in the pendulum swing that they don't take the time to see it. If they do, it's not for long bc they're on to the next high... whatever that happens to be at the moment.
You're right about abandonment... the ones I saw are looking for prince charming to solve their problems and rescue them bc they don't want to do it themselves. They leave the esfp bc nobody wants a kid for a partner... again no accountability, not long term anyways.
You guys are so cringey 😆 that vid at the end oh goodness
My favourite type is ESFJ right now.
My bruva: MM Fe-Si BPC
My mom: FF Fe-Si BSP
My friend: FF Fe-Si BPS (probably)
uh this is legit
I'm seeing myself and I don't like it...
The judge is still out on whether I'm really this type or not, though. I need more information.
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I know, I know, but seriously.
Frankly, I wish I could collapse everything into four defined boxes. I feel like the whole world can be explained in a single sentence, I'm just not seeing it...yet. (Not to mention, the rest of the world wouldn't (want to) believe it anyway.)
And yes, I do have trouble applying stuff outside of its box.
I know all this stuff about how humans work; now, how to apply it to actual humans?
I think part of the Se gathering game is that it's fun to do (addiction) so when everything can be defined in one or two sentences it's like, "Oh, my toy just broke."
wtf im laughing so hard
I think I'm INTP. My reason for not constantly gathering facts (Se) is that I assume that the facts are likely irrelevant. For example, why would I read all philosophical or psychological treatises that were formulated within a world that is full of violence, corruption, abuse, domination, and illusion? Wouldn't it make sense to assume that the treatises must have been unsatisfactory since the world hasn't been fixed? Obviously, you won't find a golden key if all the doors are still locked. So I just skimmed and then worked on a new philosophy. People who search through the known mistakenly think that some golden key has been overlooked. Don't bother looking. There's nothing there.
Really? I am an Istp. you are right.The song does not help Se
@chimpanzee eagle why are you shocked?
Esfps. Excellent students, but horrible teachers.
What? They're neither. They are impatient learners and impatient teachers.
@@abesapien9930 I have a (suspected) ESFP student now, and I totally relate. Maybe not as impatient as teachers.
Their Se Te can create a much better teaching system then most other types. Their big picture thinking adds things together for other people, instead of some who force facts down your throat
ESFP as students though depends on their passion. Their Ni needs to feel certain about it, or they're just going to distract themselves. Once there is a certainty, you can't stop them, unless uncertainty builds again.
If only education was like, built specifically to help certain types of people overcome their struggles, and ESFP's maybe could actually have their miracle of brilliance if they didn't get rubber capped by the ESTJ system. "Learn this, and learn this"
They put in the work to properly understand something before they teach it.
They can make some of the best teachers if they put in the work.
They end up understanding the patterns and all of the subtle nuances.
@Tommy Hass Tommy Hass Any ESFP in general. They have the tools required. Savor and Demon, as of OP's system, will act differently obviously, but both can be amazing.
The real important thing is passion, you need to have something to strive towards that is worth more the pain.
Mozart is also my favorite example of an ESFP. Addicted passion into music, shear dedication to improving his skills in music.
and no I didnt notice
Isn't that ironic that an INTJ prefer the ESFP type?
It's like an Angel saying "Mm yeah, Satan is perfect!"
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Or the opposite
Satan is an Angel…. Angel of light
So me. I do this
Disagree. As INFJ, when I approach a new concept, I wanna read all the studies and the empirical applications to see the big picture
sadly nobody cares
@@RandomPerson28337 hahahahaa geez i guess imma care about how no one cares?
Same. Part of the big picture at least, the studies and emp applic's that is. It is not wholesome whatsoever, but adds to the bigger picture.
You could be an INFJ jumper with savior consume. Or you could not be an INFJ at all lol
@@ridorock6 i doubt it. Ni needs to kinda build head models, and you cannot do that if you dont master something??? But again, we cant discard the possibility i am not and Infj either
i don't like how your system promotes machiavellian approach. I was manipulated in a "study" i didn't consent to. in a conversation i didn't want to be in.
Crisis -> crises NOT "crisises".
INTJ here, leave me alone
Just kidding, keep up the good work.
Me
Lol esfp
ESFP? yeah no I'm un-stanning you for this one >:(
Shannon you talk to much...