You have put my journey to video perfectly. I had a 25 plus year journey through compound innovations culminating in a 330 fps setup that was an absolute 40 yard tackdriver. Then as my age progressed, my vision declined sending me in a spiral in ability to acquire my sight pins. I gave my bow s away to younger eyes and taught them bow set up, tuning, and maintenance. Have not touched a bow for 7 years. Then, 1 month ago, I came across a you in a review video of the Sanlida $99 dollar package and made the purchase. I have had this bow for one week and through your videos, humble delivery of instruction, and simple to follow techniques, I am once again enjoying a new journey at 62. I am already having really good groups with the included string and arrows which has inspired me to put in an order for B55 strings to build a Flemish string, some GT warrior shafts and weighted inserts. In short, my passion and dedication have returned and I just want to say Thank You. My evenings are now spent with arrows flying true into hay bales with a grin on my face.
@@johntandycrabtree392 wow! Thank you for sharing your story with me and I am so glad to hear that you are truly enjoying simple archery, it’s crazy how you commented at this exact time on the X9, I shots mine all evening yesterday with my Selway quiver mounted and just absolutely love it especially it being by far the most inexpensive bow I own! God bless you brother!
I have a single cam that was my first bow ever from cabelas in the 90s. I'm thinking that would maybe be fun to shoot. Just the difference in arrows from aluminum to carbon is unreal....yet there's guys that been shooting woodys and only that! It's become like fly fishing. Enough money and everyone is a "pro" 1000$ and you can shoot 100 yds tomorrow with a compound. Not much skill. I think compounds should have their own season even. Elk in my zone stay 60-100 yds off the road now before only 20!😅😅
Just to really get you thinking, I have a recurve, compound, and X-bow. I thoroughly enjoy shooting them all and hunt with them all, I just hunt different spots with each. I do enjoy shooting my recurve the most, just because of the extra challenge!
The facts as you stated that in traditional archery you can rework the whole bow. You can even learn to build a board bow, make your own strings, change the shelf, the grip, the limbs, etc makes me not even consider trying a compound bow. I just enjoy knowing I can do almost anything to my bows and never have to put one in a shop. Thanks for sharing the & God bless.
i strung up my sanlida royal x8 today and made a target and got to working on my shot and i have to say, i love it. i researched archery for months and watched all your vids and bought a bow and i finally got some time off work to start my journey and i took my time and tried to remember all your vids and tips and i have to say, while taking my time, within an hour and within 50 shots, i was hitting within an inch or two of my bullseye. im started split finger and within 15 shots switched to 3 under and i instantly started nailing them! its wild how quickly you can actually shoot well when you have good advice and take the time to study before starting! thanks again for all the vids and tips....i feel like i got years of advice and experience as a headstart. almost feels like i cheated!! haha
Great video Jeff. I’ve been a compound hunter for over 30 years. Have killed an absolute pile of critters with a compound. My love for shooting really started to fade the past few years. The desire to hunt always gets stronger but shooting was honestly just too easy. Now I’ve been shooting the longbow and hunted with it a good bit last year. Man what a difference. The FUN is back. The challenge is back. My desire to shoot is insane now. I HAVE to shoot 3-4 times a day 😂 I feel like a kid again. I can’t wait for season!
@@flinginairos that’s me exactly my friend! It’s just something that gets inside you and makes you look at everything differently and probably because of the relationship you develop with such a simple piece of equipment lol
Jeff thank you for this is a wonderful presentation of why we love traditional archery. Your vids motivate me to work harder. I am enjoying it to the fullest again. Truth be told Jeff . You are one of a kind and a talented man that can teach, shoot, inspire and tell a heck of a story about why we do this.
Thx again sir. Love your video content, it seems so applicable to my situation. I am of the minority group in the Trad click amongst the masses of the compound bow shooters up at the range. I just keep at it, perfecting the old school ways, it’s so good for my soul, can’t explain it, always been like that
Your pull and release is so smooth. I have only been shooting a recurve for a couple of weeks and I am so jealous when I see expert technique. But I understand the drive to get better. It's such a challenge.
Great video. I went with a traditional bow over my compound was because of all the trouble I started encountering with the compound. Little things started to get to me. I was taught instinctively with fingers and wanted to get back to the simplicity and enjoyment of shooting a bow. And has it ever. I feel like a kid again and thank my daddy every day I shoot. God rest his soul. But I do have an older compound that I have taken everything off but quiver and rest and shoot it instinctively and fingers. It’s enjoyable as well. Love them trad bows though. Great video and keep them coming. God bless!
Thanks for another great video! I want to share my story. My interest in archery began during my military service. I contacted the local archery club to learn the correct way. After shooting with a borrowed bow in the club for a while, I ordered my first bow after advice. It was a Samick SMT 7. I never started to compete, but just enjoyed the new hobby. And I never wanted to get stabilizers to the bow because it's ugly. Shortly after this, a "new" invention started to be popular: the compound bow. This inspired by the Rambo movies. Suddenly a lot of wilderness stores, who earlier had not sell bows at all, started to sell compound bows. It became a new trend, attracting a number of people who earlier was not interested in archery. The compound bow became a bit mythic. Traditional bows were more or less considered as toys in comparison, while compound was a real weapon... It happened in Sweden that an employee killed his boss with a compound bow. In the news the compound bow was described. It was not just a bow, but a compound... Of course a traditional bow with same arrow could have been lethal in that situation as well. I have no bow since a while. But I want to start shooting bow again. And when this comes, I want either a longbow or a hunting recurve. I am not against technical development. And the compound bow is a high tech development of an ancient weapon. But it is now so technical advanced that it feels like a machine more than a bow. It just misses that you don't need to pull the string yourself. I am glad I started to shoot bow before I even knew that compound existed. I did not jump on a trend. There are a lot of people who bought a compound and left the interest after a while. I actually have a good friend who jumped on the trend. I tried his compound, and yes it was cool. It felt like a catapult. I have heard that some people have got shoulder problems because compounds are often too strong. If you use a compound which demands all your strength to pull it until the let-off, it can be harmful for the shoulders. I think a traditional bow often is less harmful. I like your ending of the video. God bless you!
I'm glad that you made this video for two years now I started archery and of course there's so many different styles but the style that I decide to pick was the method you're talking about I like the old school method better The compound bows look pretty cool but in honesty with all those bills and whistles might as well just use a gun honestly like the whole point that I like about archery is back in the day of hunting or just maintaining your skills and to me that's a way better feeling than using a bow and arrow with a trigger release or a site just feels off for me like might as well use a gun better
Dude amazing video!! You just talked me onto trying a trad bow!! just going to try a black hunter recurve at 40 lbs and see what happens.. i shot recurve bows as a child but since i started bowhunting i got serious about compound bows !! You are so right about shooting archery is a huge stress relief for me for sure!! i take mt atv and my target back into the woods miles away from anyone and just shoot!! Best feeling ever and no one on earth knows where i am !! A truly freeing incredible sport!! Its always good to be an archer!! Thats for sure !!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Thank you and i look forward to trying it out!! I have a question?? If i used a stick on rest could i use my vane fleched arrors [ 2inch blazer vanes actually arrows for my compounds! I know you like to shoot off the shelf!! But im asking if this will work??
@@michaelgmcauliffe honestly brother I’ve never been able to get vanes to work on any trad bow but they do make trad vanes now that are a bit softer, I’d definitely get some feather fletched arrows for it 👍🏻
I to grew bored with my compound but I was really really good at it shooting ping pong balls at 20 and 30 yard wasn't uncommon...But I'm over it🤷♂️I Have a goal now to shot my Traditional bow just as good as my compound I'm up for the challenge 😊And Iv got the best teacher to help me thank you jeff
Jeff, great video! Great points, on compound folks making the switch a lot of this is true for me too. I have the Nyx and know exactly what you are talking about in the grip. I will be adjusting mine as well.
Thanks for another great video, been shooting with trad bows for 20 + years but hunting with compounds, but plan to ditch the compound this year and go totally traditional. That being said, there are times when my shooting is off, shooting with the comound will tune my shooting with my long bow. But trad gear is by far more fulfilling. Keep up the good work and God Bless!
Absolutely brother! I took my compound out one time last year and killed a really nice buck and a doe before 8:30🤣 it was fun for sure but almost like cheating it was so deadly 😁
Amen Jeff, this is our love being traditional toxopholites, passion, God loving and never ending calling to be the best you can be, more than rewarding, spiritually i believe God is so happy with us shooting these too ate perfection, especially when we give him glory for are abilities for are perfect discipline, man every day year round passion, cant ever get enough.....God is great man. What i say if your meant too have this passion your hole life, the moment one of these bows are put in your hand, an overwhelming love and feeling will come upon you and it will be with you your hole life, my dad pulled his recurve out of the rafters in the basement when i was 10, and from that moment on my journey of traditional started, every day possible my hole life now 60 years old my love is greater now more than ever, it keeps on growing, because i give all my abilities too the grace of are beloved God and his glorious son jesus christ. And im so happy i found your channel, because you have that same passion,,,,,Excelsior
I went to catching flack from compound guys to a recurve and taking flack from compound guys lol. One is too good the other isnt capable! I can shoot my xbow at 20 yards freehand and hit a 3" circle every time and its not fun to me anymore. I Love shooting my trad bows for hours! All three options are great. Its about having fun and knowing your limits. Thanks for putting out great down to earth videos! God bless 🙌
I have been using Bear recurves for over fifty years and recently acquired a Bear green glass Grizzly. I use wood and carbon arrows with feathers and vanes. My recurves have different draw weights and I like to mix it up when target shooting. I have a range at home so I am fortunate I can shoot daily. I also have a ILF takedown (Samick Discovery) with multiple limb sets in different draw weights and a Bearpaw Slick stick hybrid long bow. Most of my recurves I have several bow strings that one would be set up for shelf rest and the other for an elevated rest. Never had an interest in compounds.
I actually love both compounds and trads.So i decided to try both at same time so i shoot now a compound with mechanical release but without a sight.Why because with sight i have target panic and finger release hurts one of my fingers due to an injury so i mixed instinctive with technology and it's freaking awesome.By gthe why i love this channel thank you for your job here.
I kept compounds fun by stretching out the distance, but my joy of hunting with them wasn't there anymore. Shooting a doe was based on if I wanted to deal with it or not. Traditional bows brought back the joy of shooting does and small game for me.
What actually turned me back to my bare bow recurve was my need for glasses. I tried a clarifier, verifier, got annoyed and fed up so I decided to trust my instincts more than technology.
Great video. Assorted about that never ending quest for perfection with a trad bow. I have seen a few videos of people shooting compounds “instinctively”. No peep sight, no pins, no release and I was curious to your thoughts on that. I would love it if you made a video where you modify a bow. I have a longbow where the grip is too large for me and was thinking of modifying it myself, but would love to see it done first before I try it.
Hello again Jeff. I hunt and shoot with a traditional recurve bow, but I also have a compound bow. I am preparing next season to hunt with the compound bow, but shooting with a traditional technique, that is, shooting with the fingers, without a trigger, without scope, without peed, with a traditional arrow rest, etc. I will prepare my arrows for the compound bow the same as a traditional one, that is, the arrow is weighted with a high FOC. Hunting with the compound, but with traditional shooting, is to achieve more speed. As a teacher that you are, what do you think? I would like to know your opinion, please. Thank you so much.
I have a blackwidow graybark I recieved from my father and grandfather when I was about 13. 52lb pull, and it’s been a bow I’ve always relied on. I have shot since I was about 7 years old, I’m 26 now as of this month. I don’t worry about dropping it in the field, I don’t worry the bow at all, because there’s no worry of cams. It’s reliable. My father was taught by my grandfather when he was young, then taught me, and he is the best shooter of a recurve I’ve ever seen. He’ll shoot a cotton ball from 30 yards away. Like he taught me so well that I’ll pick up my blackwidow any day after now shooting for months, and I’ll shoot perfect wherever I aim, without a bit of practice. No worries for my bow to fail. Traditional archery is the way. It’s far more natural, more real, and connected to the act of what archery is.
Brother I absolutely love your videos and thank you for explaining how I feel with recurves 😂. Could you please recommend a good Arrow setup while using bear broadhead?
All weaponry is equally awesome. I can start the day with a recurve or longbow. Pick up a compound and sling some arrows at lunch time. Switch to a crossbow and hunt that evening and grab a high powered rifle the next day and don't feel the need to apologize for any of it. Each weapon has its pluses and minuses. Enjoy them for what they are and count every day above ground as a blessing. Keep the interesting videos coming. Oh, and air rifles are pretty cool too.
Compound: robotic, sterile, soul-less Trad: lively, energetic, connected I'm one of the weird guys who jumped straight into traditional archery, there's literally nothing appealing about compound bows to me.
Isn't it true that there's no reason that you can't equally develop a feel for distance and/or sightless aim with a compound bow? I get that you might be less likely to put in the effort to do so since a compound bow is more likely to come stock with additional tools, but it's not like you can't have a compound bow without them (or simply not always use them) or can't have a recurve bow with sights/reference markers/rangefinders/etc. It's really more about which skills you want to prioritize putting effort into than choice of bow style, no?
Thanks so much for this video Jeff! I have a Sanlida Royal X8 and this video has me thinking about trying to even out the tiller so it can be suited to shooting 3 under instead of split finger. Do you have any suggestions for how best to do this or does it not seem like a good idea to you?
To me, both your bows are equally boss. Thx for the intro into trad archery. Been thinking of ditching my compound as it’s hard to maintain on the cheap. And may God bless you too.
That Dynasty Warriors intro almost lost me. Have one of each in my online cart and need to make a decision. A takedown recurve bow seems like the most legit option. Compound bow feels like cheating as a native 😂
I call BS on not needing to now your distance when shooting a traditional bow. Unless your shooting 20 or yards or under. Big difference in a 10 yard hold than 25- 30 yard hold with a traditional bow. That difference puts the arch in archery. Don’t get me wrong you are a great shot and very knowledgeable archer. But we are going to have to agree to disagree on that subject.
Not true for instinctive shooting any more than throwing a rock at something. But the more you get into gap shooting, using the arrow tip consciously for point of aim, or a bow sight, yes then you need to start judging distance. That said, I do think most trad. shooters will do best NOT shooting instinctive. Jeff has said this himself. Instinctive shooting has been way oversold, IMO. The problem for many guys who go this route is that push their limits, esp. in bowhunting. IMO, it's better to be a master of 20 yds. and less. And for whitetails, the most popular game animal for the vast majority of bowhunters, there is no reason to be shooting over 20 yds if you know whitetail hunting. In fact, I would say the ideal range is 15 yds. and less. And this is not a disadvantage, this is where the fun is - predatory distance.
I’ve been 3D shooting for the last few months and have shot with half dozen guys a lot. The group is 5 instinctive shooters, 1 gap and I’m shooting a fixed crawl. The 5 instinctive guys pay ZERO attention to yardage. It’s only the two of us that use tip of arrow to aim that care about yardage. A couple of the instinctive guys can’t even tell you how they shoot they say they just draw and release no thinking. Couple of them say it’s like throwing a baseball you don’t aim you just draw and when it feels right you release. The instinctive guys now seem to shoot wider groups 6-8in over and over, when the gap or aiming guys can get that tighter. However 2 of the guys that are instinctive can shoot easily out to 40-50-60yds consistently without trouble. Not a hunting shot but for 3D they can shoot with some of the compound shooters in hunter divisions. I think the guys that aim are holding tighter groups inside 30yds but I do believe that in a hunting situation that maybe instinctive might be a little better when the adrenaline kicks in and your not having to aim your letting your instincts take over. I’m SO not instinctive so I’m focusing on solid anchor and consistent release.
You do realise aluminium (uk spelling here) is workable with wood tools yea? Its common to do so in engineering firms. So you can modify an alloy riser just as easily as hard wood. Ive cut aluminium with a wood saw. Either wood or alloy would need re-finish if you modified it in such a way (grinding/dremel), so its no more work in that sense either. Its simply less familiar. You can alter poundage and tiller on any compound or ILF recurve. Night shooting. If anything i have to dim my pins to let my eyes see the target and guess whats within the targets outline. Dimmable sight lights dont rely on you picking up surrounding env in your peripheral, instinctive kinda does. I shoot a lit sight in full black aside a little moonlight. If i can see the targets immediate outline, i can shoot it, and i can gap with my pin. But i dont use a peep with my sights. Worth noting in the UK we also have compound styles without release aids / sights (NFAS field has two catagories, maybe more). Most likely such things occur globally. Not unusual to see Oneida compounds shot sightless and with finger release here, that said its not unusual to see fat men anchoring in thin air, so maybe the observastion is moot. Sights for higher accuracy, no sight for more challenge. Shorter bows and wheels for speed. Wood if you like slippers, pipes or cigars. Or just cut the sh*t and buy one of every type like your inner self wants. Simples. Not trying to be a prick, just adding my austistic ass take on minor points. Night hunting can only really be done in the UK on private ground, as a simulation or as illegal poaching - so no rules on electronics per say, ive shot into the early hours with a sight. At clubs i shoot field unsighted/sighted recurve & oly recurve, i cant exactly call myself an instinctive bowhunter or a compound shooter, im open to being corrected on the night shooting. Respect the principle of all you are saying tho, im a fu*cker for niche reasoning & obscure points.
When a hunter in the Amazon goes to a Shaman because he has not killed game. The Shaman does not look at the forest, or the game, he looks at the hunter. To quote Kathrin Austin-Fitz: "God does not Bless a Mess." Guys sort your gear out and practice. Are you a hunter, or are you just a bloke who shoots at deer?
You have put my journey to video perfectly. I had a 25 plus year journey through compound innovations culminating in a 330 fps setup that was an absolute 40 yard tackdriver. Then as my age progressed, my vision declined sending me in a spiral in ability to acquire my sight pins. I gave my bow s away to younger eyes and taught them bow set up, tuning, and maintenance. Have not touched a bow for 7 years. Then, 1 month ago, I came across a you in a review video of the Sanlida $99 dollar package and made the purchase. I have had this bow for one week and through your videos, humble delivery of instruction, and simple to follow techniques, I am once again enjoying a new journey at 62. I am already having really good groups with the included string and arrows which has inspired me to put in an order for B55 strings to build a Flemish string, some GT warrior shafts and weighted inserts. In short, my passion and dedication have returned and I just want to say Thank You. My evenings are now spent with arrows flying true into hay bales with a grin on my face.
@@johntandycrabtree392 wow! Thank you for sharing your story with me and I am so glad to hear that you are truly enjoying simple archery, it’s crazy how you commented at this exact time on the X9, I shots mine all evening yesterday with my Selway quiver mounted and just absolutely love it especially it being by far the most inexpensive bow I own! God bless you brother!
I grew bored with a compound bow very quickly but have never grown bored with shooting trad bows
I have a single cam that was my first bow ever from cabelas in the 90s. I'm thinking that would maybe be fun to shoot. Just the difference in arrows from aluminum to carbon is unreal....yet there's guys that been shooting woodys and only that! It's become like fly fishing. Enough money and everyone is a "pro" 1000$ and you can shoot 100 yds tomorrow with a compound. Not much skill. I think compounds should have their own season even. Elk in my zone stay 60-100 yds off the road now before only 20!😅😅
I, personally, feel this is one of your best videos.....and there is so much more...thank you....
Just to really get you thinking, I have a recurve, compound, and X-bow. I thoroughly enjoy shooting them all and hunt with them all, I just hunt different spots with each. I do enjoy shooting my recurve the most, just because of the extra challenge!
I agree, when I switched to Traditional bows archery became much more challenging and more fun.
The facts as you stated that in traditional archery you can rework the whole bow. You can even learn to build a board bow, make your own strings, change the shelf, the grip, the limbs, etc makes me not even consider trying a compound bow. I just enjoy knowing I can do almost anything to my bows and never have to put one in a shop.
Thanks for sharing the & God bless.
i strung up my sanlida royal x8 today and made a target and got to working on my shot and i have to say, i love it. i researched archery for months and watched all your vids and bought a bow and i finally got some time off work to start my journey and i took my time and tried to remember all your vids and tips and i have to say, while taking my time, within an hour and within 50 shots, i was hitting within an inch or two of my bullseye. im started split finger and within 15 shots switched to 3 under and i instantly started nailing them! its wild how quickly you can actually shoot well when you have good advice and take the time to study before starting! thanks again for all the vids and tips....i feel like i got years of advice and experience as a headstart. almost feels like i cheated!! haha
Great video Jeff. I’ve been a compound hunter for over 30 years. Have killed an absolute pile of critters with a compound. My love for shooting really started to fade the past few years. The desire to hunt always gets stronger but shooting was honestly just too easy. Now I’ve been shooting the longbow and hunted with it a good bit last year. Man what a difference. The FUN is back. The challenge is back. My desire to shoot is insane now. I HAVE to shoot 3-4 times a day 😂 I feel like a kid again. I can’t wait for season!
@@flinginairos that’s me exactly my friend! It’s just something that gets inside you and makes you look at everything differently and probably because of the relationship you develop with such a simple piece of equipment lol
Jeff thank you for this is a wonderful presentation of why we love traditional archery. Your vids motivate me to work harder. I am enjoying it to the fullest again. Truth be told Jeff . You are one of a kind and a talented man that can teach, shoot, inspire and tell a heck of a story about why we do this.
Thank you my friend I really appreciate that!
Thx again sir. Love your video content, it seems so applicable to my situation. I am of the minority group in the Trad click amongst the masses of the compound bow shooters up at the range. I just keep at it, perfecting the old school ways, it’s so good for my soul, can’t explain it, always been like that
@@ar15gator absolutely my friend and that’ll probably never change lol 👍🏻
Thank you very much for your videos, they are really instructive.
Your pull and release is so smooth. I have only been shooting a recurve for a couple of weeks and I am so jealous when I see expert technique. But I understand the drive to get better. It's such a challenge.
Great video. I went with a traditional bow over my compound was because of all the trouble I started encountering with the compound. Little things started to get to me. I was taught instinctively with fingers and wanted to get back to the simplicity and enjoyment of shooting a bow. And has it ever. I feel like a kid again and thank my daddy every day I shoot. God rest his soul. But I do have an older compound that I have taken everything off but quiver and rest and shoot it instinctively and fingers. It’s enjoyable as well. Love them trad bows though. Great video and keep them coming. God bless!
Man oh man this was an excellent, informative, inspiring, and encouraging video! Thank you 🙏🏽
Love the passion you get across 🙏🏼 Thank you so much!
Thanks for another great video!
I want to share my story.
My interest in archery began during my military service.
I contacted the local archery club to learn the correct way. After shooting with a borrowed bow in the club for a while, I ordered my first bow after advice. It was a Samick SMT 7.
I never started to compete, but just enjoyed the new hobby.
And I never wanted to get stabilizers to the bow because it's ugly.
Shortly after this, a "new" invention started to be popular: the compound bow. This inspired by the Rambo movies. Suddenly a lot of wilderness stores, who earlier had not sell bows at all, started to sell compound bows. It became a new trend, attracting a number of people who earlier was not interested in archery.
The compound bow became a bit mythic. Traditional bows were more or less considered as toys in comparison, while compound was a real weapon...
It happened in Sweden that an employee killed his boss with a compound bow.
In the news the compound bow was described. It was not just a bow, but a compound...
Of course a traditional bow with same arrow could have been lethal in that situation as well.
I have no bow since a while. But I want to start shooting bow again. And when this comes, I want either a longbow or a hunting recurve.
I am not against technical development. And the compound bow is a high tech development of an ancient weapon. But it is now so technical advanced that it feels like a machine more than a bow. It just misses that you don't need to pull the string yourself.
I am glad I started to shoot bow before I even knew that compound existed. I did not jump on a trend. There are a lot of people who bought a compound and left the interest after a while.
I actually have a good friend who jumped on the trend. I tried his compound, and yes it was cool. It felt like a catapult.
I have heard that some people have got shoulder problems because compounds are often too strong. If you use a compound which demands all your strength to pull it until the let-off, it can be harmful for the shoulders.
I think a traditional bow often is less harmful.
I like your ending of the video. God bless you!
I'm glad that you made this video for two years now I started archery and of course there's so many different styles but the style that I decide to pick was the method you're talking about I like the old school method better The compound bows look pretty cool but in honesty with all those bills and whistles might as well just use a gun honestly like the whole point that I like about archery is back in the day of hunting or just maintaining your skills and to me that's a way better feeling than using a bow and arrow with a trigger release or a site just feels off for me like might as well use a gun better
Amen to that Jeff. Thanks and God bleess you.
Dude amazing video!! You just talked me onto trying a trad bow!! just going to try a black hunter recurve at 40 lbs and see what happens.. i shot recurve bows as a child but since i started bowhunting i got serious about compound bows !! You are so right about shooting archery is a huge stress relief for me for sure!! i take mt atv and my target back into the woods miles away from anyone and just shoot!! Best feeling ever and no one on earth knows where i am !! A truly freeing incredible sport!! Its always good to be an archer!! Thats for sure !!
@@michaelgmcauliffe man that’s awesome! You’ll have a lot of fun no matter what!😁👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Thank you and i look forward to trying it out!! I have a question?? If i used a stick on rest could i use my vane fleched arrors [ 2inch blazer vanes actually arrows for my compounds! I know you like to shoot off the shelf!! But im asking if this will work??
@@michaelgmcauliffe honestly brother I’ve never been able to get vanes to work on any trad bow but they do make trad vanes now that are a bit softer, I’d definitely get some feather fletched arrows for it 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 ok i shoot 28 inch draw my bow im ordering is going to be 30 or 40 lb draw do you think 500 spine would be good??
Thats right ! Trad bow's are a new and different challenge every time you shoot.
I to grew bored with my compound but I was really really good at it shooting ping pong balls at 20 and 30 yard wasn't uncommon...But I'm over it🤷♂️I Have a goal now to shot my Traditional bow just as good as my compound I'm up for the challenge 😊And Iv got the best teacher to help me thank you jeff
Jeff, great video! Great points, on compound folks making the switch a lot of this is true for me too. I have the Nyx and know exactly what you are talking about in the grip. I will be adjusting mine as well.
Thanks Jeff. Greetings from South Africa.
Thanks for another great video, been shooting with trad bows for 20 + years but hunting with compounds, but plan to ditch the compound this year and go totally traditional. That being said, there are times when my shooting is off, shooting with the comound will tune my shooting with my long bow. But trad gear is by far more fulfilling. Keep up the good work and God Bless!
Absolutely brother! I took my compound out one time last year and killed a really nice buck and a doe before 8:30🤣 it was fun for sure but almost like cheating it was so deadly 😁
Amen Jeff, this is our love being traditional toxopholites, passion, God loving and never ending calling to be the best you can be, more than rewarding, spiritually i believe God is so happy with us shooting these too ate perfection, especially when we give him glory for are abilities for are perfect discipline, man every day year round passion, cant ever get enough.....God is great man. What i say if your meant too have this passion your hole life, the moment one of these bows are put in your hand, an overwhelming love and feeling will come upon you and it will be with you your hole life, my dad pulled his recurve out of the rafters in the basement when i was 10, and from that moment on my journey of traditional started, every day possible my hole life now 60 years old my love is greater now more than ever, it keeps on growing, because i give all my abilities too the grace of are beloved God and his glorious son jesus christ. And im so happy i found your channel, because you have that same passion,,,,,Excelsior
Another great video, I didn't hear you mention replacing a trad string in the field or your compound sight breaks.
I went to catching flack from compound guys to a recurve and taking flack from compound guys lol. One is too good the other isnt capable! I can shoot my xbow at 20 yards freehand and hit a 3" circle every time and its not fun to me anymore. I Love shooting my trad bows for hours! All three options are great. Its about having fun and knowing your limits. Thanks for putting out great down to earth videos! God bless 🙌
Thanks for that details and info.. 🍻
so true! my mathews vxr was so accurate i never shot any more. now i'm back into archery with great desire. trad all the way
Honestly the only reason I switched to traditional recurve is cause of the price difference between the two 😂 both are awesome
I have been using Bear recurves for over fifty years and recently acquired a Bear green glass Grizzly. I use wood and carbon arrows with feathers and vanes. My recurves have different draw weights and I like to mix it up when target shooting. I have a range at home so I am fortunate I can shoot daily. I also have a ILF takedown (Samick Discovery) with multiple limb sets in different draw weights and a Bearpaw Slick stick hybrid long bow. Most of my recurves I have several bow strings that one would be set up for shelf rest and the other for an elevated rest. Never had an interest in compounds.
Compound bow is the machine,trad bows you are the machine. 🫵👍💪😁🏹🎯
I actually love both compounds and trads.So i decided to try both at same time so i shoot now a compound with mechanical release but without a sight.Why because with sight i have target panic and finger release hurts one of my fingers due to an injury so i mixed instinctive with technology and it's freaking awesome.By gthe why i love this channel thank you for your job here.
Thanks Jeff that's the way Listen to your inner side greetings from holland
Another great video. Thank you brother. Come to Pennsylvania and shoot with us in July
I kept compounds fun by stretching out the distance, but my joy of hunting with them wasn't there anymore. Shooting a doe was based on if I wanted to deal with it or not. Traditional bows brought back the joy of shooting does and small game for me.
Same here man, it brought on a whole new meaning for me ❤️
What actually turned me back to my bare bow recurve was my need for glasses. I tried a clarifier, verifier, got annoyed and fed up so I decided to trust my instincts more than technology.
Great video. Assorted about that never ending quest for perfection with a trad bow. I have seen a few videos of people shooting compounds “instinctively”. No peep sight, no pins, no release and I was curious to your thoughts on that. I would love it if you made a video where you modify a bow. I have a longbow where the grip is too large for me and was thinking of modifying it myself, but would love to see it done first before I try it.
Thank you for honoring our Lord. I subscribed just on that, but I like your content as well.
@@davidholliday2703 Thank you!!!
Hello again Jeff. I hunt and shoot with a traditional recurve bow, but I also have a compound bow. I am preparing next season to hunt with the compound bow, but shooting with a traditional technique, that is, shooting with the fingers, without a trigger, without scope, without peed, with a traditional arrow rest, etc. I will prepare my arrows for the compound bow the same as a traditional one, that is, the arrow is weighted with a high FOC. Hunting with the compound, but with traditional shooting, is to achieve more speed. As a teacher that you are, what do you think? I would like to know your opinion, please. Thank you so much.
I have a blackwidow graybark I recieved from my father and grandfather when I was about 13. 52lb pull, and it’s been a bow I’ve always relied on. I have shot since I was about 7 years old, I’m 26 now as of this month. I don’t worry about dropping it in the field, I don’t worry the bow at all, because there’s no worry of cams. It’s reliable. My father was taught by my grandfather when he was young, then taught me, and he is the best shooter of a recurve I’ve ever seen. He’ll shoot a cotton ball from 30 yards away. Like he taught me so well that I’ll pick up my blackwidow any day after now shooting for months, and I’ll shoot perfect wherever I aim, without a bit of practice. No worries for my bow to fail. Traditional archery is the way. It’s far more natural, more real, and connected to the act of what archery is.
Brother I absolutely love your videos and thank you for explaining how I feel with recurves 😂. Could you please recommend a good Arrow setup while using bear broadhead?
All weaponry is equally awesome. I can start the day with a recurve or longbow. Pick up a compound and sling some arrows at lunch time. Switch to a crossbow and hunt that evening and grab a high powered rifle the next day and don't feel the need to apologize for any of it. Each weapon has its pluses and minuses. Enjoy them for what they are and count every day above ground as a blessing. Keep the interesting videos coming. Oh, and air rifles are pretty cool too.
We love you too buddy, god bless you.
Big love from Malaysia, your vids are awesome and help a lot! 🙌🏼
I learned to shoot a compound bow traditionally. No sights etc… is that unusual?
I really want to get into archery. Would you recommend starting with a recurve or compound?
How much sanding would it take for me to go from 50-45lbs. What grit paper do you use, sanding only the edges? …. That would make a nice video Jeff
Compound: robotic, sterile, soul-less
Trad: lively, energetic, connected
I'm one of the weird guys who jumped straight into traditional archery, there's literally nothing appealing about compound bows to me.
What's your thoughts on adding a sight on a traditional bow.
@@oledevon personally I’d just shoot my compound if sights were involved, I just wouldn’t enjoy it as much but people definitely do! 👍🏻
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Isn't it true that there's no reason that you can't equally develop a feel for distance and/or sightless aim with a compound bow? I get that you might be less likely to put in the effort to do so since a compound bow is more likely to come stock with additional tools, but it's not like you can't have a compound bow without them (or simply not always use them) or can't have a recurve bow with sights/reference markers/rangefinders/etc. It's really more about which skills you want to prioritize putting effort into than choice of bow style, no?
Thanks so much for this video Jeff!
I have a Sanlida Royal X8 and this video has me thinking about trying to even out the tiller so it can be suited to shooting 3 under instead of split finger.
Do you have any suggestions for how best to do this or does it not seem like a good idea to you?
And when you get to the next level from there you start building your own bows and arrows
Do I understand that you offer in person lessons? And do you make Long & Recurves?
It's only fun when it's challenging. 👍
What are your thoughts about asian horsebows
@@jasontsang2232 I’ve never shot one lol
The absolute biggest difference I noticed more than 30 years ago was that bow shooting became fun .
What kind of bow is that?
I love both
Good news you can enjoy it all archery 🏹 wise
I shoot xbow recurve, compound and trad and tbh I love them all
To me, both your bows are equally boss. Thx for the intro into trad archery. Been thinking of ditching my compound as it’s hard to maintain on the cheap. And may God bless you too.
I never understood why we hand the Expert Level equipment (Trad Bow) to beginners, instead of first giving them the _Training Wheels (Compound)...!_
take the peepsight and sight out of your compound and use it as a compound
Your compound seems to be very quiet!
It is very quiet but only after I tied spider leggs on the string and installed some limbsaver twist locks and now it pretty much silent 👍🏻
That Dynasty Warriors intro almost lost me. Have one of each in my online cart and need to make a decision. A takedown recurve bow seems like the most legit option. Compound bow feels like cheating as a native 😂
Trad 95% of the time thanks
@@FISHUNTREECOUNTRY That’s me but I sure love to break out my compound when it’s time! It’s all totally awesome!
You don't have to use sights on a compound and you can draw without a release mechanism, just a fact.
I call BS on not needing to now your distance when shooting a traditional bow. Unless your shooting 20 or yards or under. Big difference in a 10 yard hold than 25- 30 yard hold with a traditional bow. That difference puts the arch in archery. Don’t get me wrong you are a great shot and very knowledgeable archer. But we are going to have to agree to disagree on that subject.
Not true for instinctive shooting any more than throwing a rock at something. But the more you get into gap shooting, using the arrow tip consciously for point of aim, or a bow sight, yes then you need to start judging distance. That said, I do think most trad. shooters will do best NOT shooting instinctive. Jeff has said this himself. Instinctive shooting has been way oversold, IMO. The problem for many guys who go this route is that push their limits, esp. in bowhunting. IMO, it's better to be a master of 20 yds. and less. And for whitetails, the most popular game animal for the vast majority of bowhunters, there is no reason to be shooting over 20 yds if you know whitetail hunting. In fact, I would say the ideal range is 15 yds. and less. And this is not a disadvantage, this is where the fun is - predatory distance.
I’ve been 3D shooting for the last few months and have shot with half dozen guys a lot. The group is 5 instinctive shooters, 1 gap and I’m shooting a fixed crawl. The 5 instinctive guys pay ZERO attention to yardage. It’s only the two of us that use tip of arrow to aim that care about yardage. A couple of the instinctive guys can’t even tell you how they shoot they say they just draw and release no thinking. Couple of them say it’s like throwing a baseball you don’t aim you just draw and when it feels right you release. The instinctive guys now seem to shoot wider groups 6-8in over and over, when the gap or aiming guys can get that tighter. However 2 of the guys that are instinctive can shoot easily out to 40-50-60yds consistently without trouble. Not a hunting shot but for 3D they can shoot with some of the compound shooters in hunter divisions. I think the guys that aim are holding tighter groups inside 30yds but I do believe that in a hunting situation that maybe instinctive might be a little better when the adrenaline kicks in and your not having to aim your letting your instincts take over. I’m SO not instinctive so I’m focusing on solid anchor and consistent release.
There is no pin or gap just instinctive practice. Unless being proficient at instinctive traditional archery one can't really understand.
A single cam is traditional bow too 😂!!
You do realise aluminium (uk spelling here) is workable with wood tools yea? Its common to do so in engineering firms. So you can modify an alloy riser just as easily as hard wood. Ive cut aluminium with a wood saw. Either wood or alloy would need re-finish if you modified it in such a way (grinding/dremel), so its no more work in that sense either. Its simply less familiar.
You can alter poundage and tiller on any compound or ILF recurve.
Night shooting. If anything i have to dim my pins to let my eyes see the target and guess whats within the targets outline. Dimmable sight lights dont rely on you picking up surrounding env in your peripheral, instinctive kinda does. I shoot a lit sight in full black aside a little moonlight. If i can see the targets immediate outline, i can shoot it, and i can gap with my pin. But i dont use a peep with my sights.
Worth noting in the UK we also have compound styles without release aids / sights (NFAS field has two catagories, maybe more). Most likely such things occur globally. Not unusual to see Oneida compounds shot sightless and with finger release here, that said its not unusual to see fat men anchoring in thin air, so maybe the observastion is moot.
Sights for higher accuracy, no sight for more challenge. Shorter bows and wheels for speed. Wood if you like slippers, pipes or cigars. Or just cut the sh*t and buy one of every type like your inner self wants. Simples.
Not trying to be a prick, just adding my austistic ass take on minor points. Night hunting can only really be done in the UK on private ground, as a simulation or as illegal poaching - so no rules on electronics per say, ive shot into the early hours with a sight. At clubs i shoot field unsighted/sighted recurve & oly recurve, i cant exactly call myself an instinctive bowhunter or a compound shooter, im open to being corrected on the night shooting. Respect the principle of all you are saying tho, im a fu*cker for niche reasoning & obscure points.
Driving auto vs manual
Just as you say, it's an addiction.
When a hunter in the Amazon goes to a Shaman because he has not killed game. The Shaman does not look at the forest, or the game, he looks at the hunter. To quote Kathrin Austin-Fitz: "God does not Bless a Mess." Guys sort your gear out and practice. Are you a hunter, or are you just a bloke who shoots at deer?
Too much talking