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@@AriKoinumaSo far, the initial EP and the three albums have been stylistically quite different from each other I think, while still having recognisable TW elements.
The thing about Sick is that it has "those moments," ie. the drum fill by Pau and the falsetto by Dany, that listeners will say, "That's the best part," or "Listen to this," and have everybody focus on a specific part of the song while the chorus is worming its way into our brains. Plus, the video is kick-as and unique. What you said about repetitive listening is something I hadn't thought about but I think it's very important for their audience reach.
Yes those small variations and twists add a lot to making the song feel rich and mature, one that you want to listen to many times and still notice new things about them. It's a best practice if you want to record songs that stand up to repeated listens.
That was a fascinating breakdown of the song parts.. Dany has made the comment quite recently that "Bends are your friend," ironically she was specifically talking about the solo of their earliest single XXI Century Blood. It is really full of bends. and the same is true for the solo to Queen of the Murder Scene. However what you are talking about occurs right in your face in the signature riff, so it hits a lot more powerfully that a bend buried in a solo. Thanks for looking at these different songs.
Good analysis. You had a written comment early (3:31) in the video about them being "eloquent in their native tongue" while they were singing in English. They are Mexican and their native language is Spanish. They are eloquent in both Spanish (two songs) and English (48 songs) and fluently bilingual during their interviews and behind the scenes and vlogs. You should check out Queen of the Murder Scene album in which they did a lot of key changes.
Exactly. I am a Japanese/English bilingual, but have been in US for decades now. Still it's not easy being so eloquent in a language that is not your native one. The Warning's first language is Spanish but I find their English excellent, amazing even as lyricist.
Yes, it's interesting that it's harder for them to write lyrics in Spanish. Their mother is telling them, no you don't say it like that. It's like this. LOL
Great insight and points of view ! Thanks to bands like "The Warning", especially The Warning. The world is a better place because of them. ... all is not lost ... :)) I believe there is so much texture, dynamics and over the top tone, in their music. :))
Nice assessment of their songwriting skills, I agree with most of what you say but it should be pointed out that their classical training from a very early age plus their exposure to rock music by their parents made an enormous difference; their knowledge of music and theory is way beyond their years early on and it has just blossomed. The other thing is that unlike so many other rock bands their music never gets boring because there are no feelings of sameness about any of their songs. Their music has evolved from being really good (especially considering their age) to world class!
It’s like the reactors need to be reminded to please watch their early videos before reacting. There is a much bigger picture behind the curtains. And they practically videoed it all.
I would say, though, it's one thing to be able to play and sing songs early on -- to be able to write at this quality, now that is a whole another level.
@@AriKoinuma many reactors don’t review their earlier lyrics. They miss out on too much of their career which defines them. It’s too amazing. I had to work backwards also and rightfully so.
Thanks for laying this out so nicely. A couple other techniques I have found I really enjoy in their songwriting - The ease at which they pass back and forth between full-time and half-time. It is pretty seamless, but gets you moving. They have a number of chorus parts that are in half-time, which I find unusual. - Since there are only three of them, they need to do some things to make their sound be so full. I have said for a long time that the vocalizations (the ooos and aahhhs) are often used in place of another player on keyboards or a horn section. Since all of them can sing, their harmonized voices acts like a fourth instrument with them on stage. Really adds to the arrangement and presence. - Yes they do use some backing tracks, but they are supplementary rather than mandatory. The band have proven time and time again that they do not need or rely on the backing tracks to make their shows. I have no problem with them using tracks. I know this is a contentious issue with some, but I think that is more about how some artists have come to rely on the tracks to make their sound and performance. That is completely not the case with The Warning. 1) They play all the instruments on their tracks, 2) if the track fails during a performance, they just keep going and still make great music, and 3) the acoustic versions of a number of their songs show that they don't really NEED them to play well and give a great show. -They are very effective as a three-piece because Pau and Ale are so locked in as a rhythm section. They both grew up playing jazz, funk, and a variety of other genres in addition to rock, so understand how to establish and keep a groove pocket going. MORE is one of my favorite songs to point this out to people. Great analysis. Thanks for taking the time to share with us.
Wow this was a really insightful analysis about The Warning's songwriting, I especially like the points about sparseness and contrasts. And yes, we all expect The Warning to continue to grow as musicians, performers, artists and songwriters - we expect great things in the next album, I'm really excited for the official version of Hell You Call A Dream! And I really like how you highlight The Warning's use of vocalization, I think it helps fill out the sound and bring in audience participation; plus having 3 vocalists it just makes a lot of sense
I believe they had someone else write, or co-write with them, the lyrics for the song "More". I would like to know how much influence they had in the lyrics and the music composition ... Did they write the instrumental component only themselves ? If someone knows, please do tell. Thanks. :))
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There's a short @TNRSound called: "The Warning - MORE or less!?" the vocals are removed from MORE which is much darker without vocals and stands on it's own as an instrumental imhop.
@@AriKoinuma I searched "MORE instrumental" found the full version, yes ominous is a good description. Lot of melodic stuff going on in a song when you can strip the vocal and the song works well as an instrumental!.
Disciple does have much more power than the studio version, particularly the Teatro version. There the ''moments'' in the song really stand out. Like, the "two, three, GO!'' And the drum fill at the end of the second chorus. And Pau's little double bounce with Ale's double slide... but the instrumental break, Dani's dirty guitar, her exhortations to the crowd with just Pau's mighty right thigh and Ale's single bass notes, then the lovely dirty guitar before the ''hear my calling'' all add up to the ultimate way to do this song.
I think they do interesting things to make their sound larger. In the Disciple intro it goes bass, add guitar, add drums and then Pau throws a fill and bass drops down an octave while the guitar uses an octave pedal (Ithink, could be wrong on this). This is much more pronounce on live versions. It also seems that they mix bass and drum lines that are different on each verse. I think the thing that really creates their "Warning" signature sound is the vocals. Dany and Pau layer vocals on top usually harmonizing in thirds or fourths while Ale doubles the main melody an octave below. This is what I am hearing, would love to hear what others are picking up.
Nice video! I love their riffs, they have so many cool riffs! I second your analogy to Alice in Chains, another band with great riffs! Do you know Dam That River? One of the best riffs in rock history to me! Thanks for your review! 👍🤘
71 yo here. This trio has one hell of a future. Im excited to see how they fill the shoes of great R&R bands from my era. Their live sound is as impressive as their studio. That is a HUGE accomplishment in itself. I have experienced great bands in the past who never accomplished this.
I just hope they stay together. I have seen other sibling bands stop, mostly because -- being siblings don't mean you are meant to be in the business of a rock band together. They are in their early 20s now, will they want to keep their lives so tightly intertwined in their late 20s, 30s and beyond? I can totally understand if they don't want to.
@AriKoinuma Life in the fast lane takes it toll. I'm sure the pressure is immense, not wanting to let family and crew down. I really hope the best for these young ladies. The most important accomplishments in life are to be healthy and happy. These young girls have the ability to make a dent in the Universe. Time will tell.
@@moneybagsknottbob1784 oh yeah I recognize that my desire for them to stay together is a selfish one. Like I said I totally understand if they move on to do different things in life. You can't expect someone to know exactly what you're going to do the rest of their lives in their teens -- even with stuff they were passionate about then.
I have no expertise as a song writer, so my comments are strictly from a listeners perspective. I discovered this band nearly six years ago, and have loved their song writing up until the two most recent songs you highlighted. They both have no appeal to me. The band is known for being fluid songwriters, so I am not surprised by the changes. They have moved into a more late 1990s/2000s style, which drove me away from listening to rock music 30 years ago. The good news for me, is that the band will continue their fluid approach so there is plenty of music to look forward to in the future.
That's fair. My perspective is from someone who studies songwriting, but whether a song appeals to someone or not is totally subjective, personal thing. The most well written music will still not appeal to everyone. We songwriters just have to write the best songs we can, the ones we like ourselves, and hope that others like it too.
I do like the two most recent songs, but I also get where you’re coming from. They do sound a bit conventional to my ears. That’s not necessarily bad but let’s see how things pan out over the album.
@roywall8169 I have to agree with you on their last two songs ... They weren't my favorites either although I will say I have "warmed" up to More once I saw it performed "live". I do enjoy the song "Sick" but the "animated" video I find distracts my interest in the music. Seems very 90's pop-ish. They are still early in the career so maybe this is just due to their desire to explore their creativity. I am waiting to see their release of "Hell You Call A Dream". I hope they do an entertainment video versus something animated. I love their music and I guess we all have to be patient and wait to see how they come out of this "exploratory" phase.
Great insights Ari. Though, of course as everyone's own experience with music is subject to their own tastes, I find the songwriting on Queen of the Murder Scene to be better. No, it's not as well mixed and produced, but maybe that's why I enjoy it more. S!CK, More, those just seem too simple lyrically, hopefully that's a fluke. Musically, they are fine.
Well ultimately the band needs to say what they want to say. I'm not super familiar with their entire catalog but from a fellow songwriter's perspective the recent songs seem more mature -- but whether they appeal to someone is an entirely different matter.
Appreciate your analysis! Your generalized assessment of songwriting seems spot on. As we all know, true greatness at the highest level, can’t be taught. You have it, or you don’t. They do! “God is in the details” someone once said. The Warning, and their whole TEAM, seem to understand that. 🤘⚡️⚡️⚡️🤘. 🕊❤️
@arikuinomo I know your reaction was to their song writing evolution from their most recent productions but IMO you might really see that evolution more clearly in some of their earlier productions. They wrote and composed a concept album at the ages of 11, 14, and 16. Their album Queen of The Murder Scene is a brilliant production! Then look at their earlier album 21st Century Blood. Their evolution between just these two albums ... again in my opinion ... speaks volumes about how much they have grown from album to album.
Very interesting. The Warning have the ability to write captivating music. Much more than any other band I have heard before. There are many bands I completely have scraped after discovering TW three years ago. And they have revived rock music. A band is as good as its drummer hmm.. Paulina got the award for best rock drummer of 2023, so that would technically make The Warning the best band of 2023. Great reaction!
Thanks! I wholeheartedly believe that a band is as good as its drummer. By “good” I don’t mean playing fancy fills but it’s like they create a container in which the rest of the band gets to play in, and bands with small or insecure sounding drummers, unfortunately, don’t sound good at all. Pau is a great one, and she sings while doing it 🤯
Nice review. One the common pitfall that I see from musicians analyzing music is to equal complex with better, for me the question to ask is not CAN they do something, the proper question is SHOULD they do something. A musician being able to play a more complex composition does not mean that they should, as a listener I find that the "less is more" maxim works more often than not, when it comes to music, especially Rock.
I totally agree! A decent musician can easily go down the rabbit hole and have too many layers, too many notes, etc. But on the other hand being too simplistic and repetitive can get tiring, too. Hitting the sweet spot in the middle -- that takes mastery.
As a music listener I’ve found all these to be true. Music can be: Simple and good. Complex and good. Simple and bad. Complex and bad. In a way, it’s harder to create a song that’s simple and good. Hot Love by T. Rex is a very good example of this. At least, to me! 😊
I'm surprised a bit how much I enjoyed your analysis. I think you vindicated producer Anton DeLost, although his critics might not appreciate it, and I am not among those critics. The girls have achieved considerable mastery of contrast and slight variations to avoid monotony.
Glad you enjoyed it. With the later song's production, there are thing I'd do differently if I were the producer... 😅 but that doesn't take away from the songwriting and arrangement (though I'm not sure how much the producer got involved in arranging the songs) mastery they have achieved.
I would like to hear what you think about their "remastered" version of Metallica's "Enter Sandman". IMHO what they did with the song was brilliant! To think that they did this under very rigid time constraints and at the same time adapting the song to work with a pop artist in their first collaboration is just kind of mind blowing!
Very good analysis. Something to remember on their song writing that all there music early teachers were Mexican. This has had affect on their interpretation of rock. Mexican music in all its facets tends to focus on the emotion of melody, poetry, and the voice with very limited solo instrument work. It is about a complete song. With this as their foundation and American rock as their target The Warning are giving us some fantastic music. At least until one of them has life catch up to them gets married and group breaks up and then they start their solo careers. Hopefully a several years away.
That’s a great perspective about the influence of Mexican culture. And I agree about life catching up… I’m aware of 3 other sibling acts (not counting Oasis and Black Crowes!) and all of them stopped eventually. A band is a business and it’s rare to find sibling groups that really want to stay in business together for a lifetime.
I read elsewhere that DPA studied songwriting in their time at Berklee. An observation, to energize the next section of a song, they often "throw" the song from the last bar of a section to the 1 of the next bar by stopping on the 3 or 4. Ringo did this. I've enjoyed your analysis. Thanks!
One commonality with TWB is that Dani may sing the first lines or the first verse with no guitar, or minimal guitar, just Ale and Pau. Who does that!!?? TW that's who.
Don't get me wrong, but to me you seem to be just on the tip of the iceberg with a noticeable focus on Danies guitar ... But there's so much more to explore in their writing and their playing. How they manage key changes how they manage variations how they harmonize over all three voices. Therefore you need to analyze from the beginning to the end. You will see that they never repeat anything in the same way. Each part is always a little different. And you will find each perspective of each instrument taken care of - you can see that all of the three bring in their musical skills in the writing and all of them reached an unbelievable high level on their individual instruments. I'm analysing music for 43 years now, but I haven't ever seen such a phenomenon the villarreal sisters truly are. There's a reason why the world reacts to them as it does, why pau has been choosen to be best drummer of the year, why Ale is the youngest receiver of signature instruments of Spector ever and why Danie is gifted with unique guitars by Lzzy Hale and Matt Bellamy themselves. Something extraordinary is going on here and we're blessed to be witness of this...
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While I have an issue with your comment about the later two songs being an "improvement" of the "simpler" error songs, it neglects that some of the most interesting ( and sometimes "simpler" musical devices occurred before Error and Queen of the Murder Scene contained some breath stopping musical ideas. I felt that the "simplification" of error may have been a conscious choice to help reset their music. Well that is my take on it anyway. If I have a favourite TW song it would be "23" from Error which isn't even a rock song, but more a lament. The musical biggie in this song for me is the power of the words into the musical lyric line. Error has , for me, has songs that seem to have a feel of "What can we explore here and hoe far can we take it and still be accessable. It would surprise me not in the least if sooner or later they go beyond accessable just to see what's there. Even the Beatles did that, and I don't think they were as talented as these three.
That’s fair, I don’t mean to devalue their earlier songs in any ways, though I also stick by my comment that at least among these five songs the latter two seem more mature in terms of songwriting craft perspective. How they strike listeners is a totally separate issue. Sometimes more “mature” stuff goes into less relatable direction, for example.
@@AriKoinuma I agree the song writing has more pointy ideas musically, but the words in "sick" are a wierd "young teen" angst/ shock/yell retrograde move ( in my opinion). Could be a conscious move to pull back one and advance the other, so the next move to upgrade both would be more noticeable, but maybe I am over-thinking it a bit.
@arikuinomo ... Just one more thing ... I've watched you review/reaction several times and I really liked it but IMO you are missing the essence of the talent of this band. Yes Dani sometimes corporates simplistic guitar parts in the song but you have to understand that she is covering both lead and rythym guitar AND doing the vocals. You also missed the fact that Ale on the base is covering bass and rythym guitar parts as well. There are very few bassists that can do that. Pau is a force all on her own. I've heard many experts say to be a great band you need a great drummer. I think Pau certainly has that covered. This is a three piece band. How complicated can they get? How complicated should they get? Many great three piece bands through out rock history (Grand Funk Railroad, ZZ Top, Rush, to name a few) have done it this way and have acheived greatness. Sometimes the KISS (not the band but the metod "Keep It Simple Sir") works just as well. They produce great music and it's awesome to listen to. Just my opinion
Hey thanks for offering your observations! I don’t disagree with anything you said. Music has so many layers so if we picked out everything we can make a hours-long video on a single song (maybe I should try that sometime 🤔)
-The Warning desde sus inicios se a caracterizado por tocar temas duros de rock clasico en forma excelente,TW muestra su calidad y pasión por el buen rock ,no hay la menor duda de que TW es el mejor trío de de rock duro del 2024 ,son tremendas y sus temas son increíbles ,esto es rock
Aloha Koinuma san, hajime mashite...my name is Gen Boyer...yes it is a Japanese name, even though I am only half Okinawan. I found your review of The Warning's songwriting very omoshiroi, nee! So I took a look at your catalog of The Warning reactions and I see that this is the only one you have done about their compositional skills. Have you explored their earlier compositions? I would love to hear your critique of their album Queen Of The Murder Scene (2018). It would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on how these young ladies' songwriting was in comparison to what they are doing now! If you have time please do a comparison video, onegaishimasu! Mahalo, Arigatoo, Muchas Gracias! #APDVillaReality
Hajime mashite Gen san! I appreciate the suggestion, though I will probably make videos about other things before returning the Warning… but they have a great catalog for sure.
@@AriKoinuma - Aloha, I totally understand, however, if you were to look at other "reactors" channels that have begun to review The Warning in depth, they have received huge amounts of views and subscriptions, because The Warning Army is obsessed with this band and love to support any reactor willing to make the deep dive into their catalog. And because I am one of those fans, that is why I find your reviews/opinions/analysis to be of a higher caliber than most reactors. Please consider doing a The Warning reaction in between your other reactions. Ooneegaishimasu! Gen
I like your analysis. You use terms like "more mature". When it comes to a song I've never used that term to describe why I like one song more than another. I like all three songs you played off "Error" better than "More". I like "Disciple" better than "More" and "S!CK". I guess I like a more "immature" song. That's sorta is a dis my music taste.🤔
That's fair, and don't mean to diss anybody's taste. There are "immature" songs I enjoy greatly, too. But I guess I'm using that term from the mastery / skill development perspective. The newer songs, IMHO, convey they are growing as writers / artists. Does one like the newer songs better? That's a totally separate question.
I'm pretty sure the warning is for the amount of musical cliches incoming. The fun part of songwriting theory is when someone desents. I'll do it since it looks like no one else here will.
Let’s get some facts straight. Enter Sandman was not TW’s first video. It IS the one that launched their career. Also, Dany was fourteen in that video - so already a teen. Pau and Ale were not yet teens.
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Queen of The Murder Scene song writing may be their peak instrumentally. Timing and key changes were abundant.
Yeah on the recent songs they are keeping things simpler and ballsy.
Very nice review. Out of all of the things that impress me about The Warning (and there are many), their song writing is just off the charts.
Thanks! Yes they write great.
An analysis of their second album, lyrics and music, would be very interesting.
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@AriKoinumaSo far, the initial EP and the three albums have been stylistically quite different from each other I think, while still having recognisable TW elements.
The thing about Sick is that it has "those moments," ie. the drum fill by Pau and the falsetto by Dany, that listeners will say, "That's the best part," or "Listen to this," and have everybody focus on a specific part of the song while the chorus is worming its way into our brains. Plus, the video is kick-as and unique. What you said about repetitive listening is something I hadn't thought about but I think it's very important for their audience reach.
Yes those small variations and twists add a lot to making the song feel rich and mature, one that you want to listen to many times and still notice new things about them. It's a best practice if you want to record songs that stand up to repeated listens.
That was a fascinating breakdown of the song parts.. Dany has made the comment quite recently that "Bends are your friend," ironically she was specifically talking about the solo of their earliest single XXI Century Blood. It is really full of bends. and the same is true for the solo to Queen of the Murder Scene. However what you are talking about occurs right in your face in the signature riff, so it hits a lot more powerfully that a bend buried in a solo. Thanks for looking at these different songs.
Bends are one of the “guitaristic” technique and used all the time in solos but less so in riffs. I think the latter should be explored more.
Good analysis. You had a written comment early (3:31) in the video about them being "eloquent in their native tongue" while they were singing in English. They are Mexican and their native language is Spanish. They are eloquent in both Spanish (two songs) and English (48 songs) and fluently bilingual during their interviews and behind the scenes and vlogs. You should check out Queen of the Murder Scene album in which they did a lot of key changes.
I read that and thought the same till it struck me he might have been trying to compare them to a native English speaker being eloquent.
Exactly. I am a Japanese/English bilingual, but have been in US for decades now. Still it's not easy being so eloquent in a language that is not your native one. The Warning's first language is Spanish but I find their English excellent, amazing even as lyricist.
Yes, it's interesting that it's harder for them to write lyrics in Spanish. Their mother is telling them, no you don't say it like that. It's like this. LOL
Also note that later during SIck they keep switching up everything, to keep it interesting
Indeed 🙌
Great insight and points of view !
Thanks to bands like "The Warning", especially The Warning.
The world is a better place because of them.
... all is not lost ... :))
I believe there is so much texture, dynamics and over the top tone, in their music. :))
It is nice to see people from their generation rocking out. 🙌
Nice assessment of their songwriting skills, I agree with most of what you say but it should be pointed out that their classical training from a very early age plus their exposure to rock music by their parents made an enormous difference; their knowledge of music and theory is way beyond their years early on and it has just blossomed. The other thing is that unlike so many other rock bands their music never gets boring because there are no feelings of sameness about any of their songs.
Their music has evolved from being really good (especially considering their age) to world class!
It’s like the reactors need to be reminded to please watch their early videos before reacting. There is a much bigger picture behind the curtains. And they practically videoed it all.
Oh yes having those early inputs make a huge difference. I am not like an expert on their history but I can see their evolution over the years.
I would say, though, it's one thing to be able to play and sing songs early on -- to be able to write at this quality, now that is a whole another level.
@@AriKoinuma many reactors don’t review their earlier lyrics. They miss out on too much of their career which defines them. It’s too amazing. I had to work backwards also and rightfully so.
@@joeode9439 Valid points, I'll check them out.
Thanks for laying this out so nicely. A couple other techniques I have found I really enjoy in their songwriting
- The ease at which they pass back and forth between full-time and half-time. It is pretty seamless, but gets you moving. They have a number of chorus parts that are in half-time, which I find unusual.
- Since there are only three of them, they need to do some things to make their sound be so full. I have said for a long time that the vocalizations (the ooos and aahhhs) are often used in place of another player on keyboards or a horn section. Since all of them can sing, their harmonized voices acts like a fourth instrument with them on stage. Really adds to the arrangement and presence.
- Yes they do use some backing tracks, but they are supplementary rather than mandatory. The band have proven time and time again that they do not need or rely on the backing tracks to make their shows. I have no problem with them using tracks. I know this is a contentious issue with some, but I think that is more about how some artists have come to rely on the tracks to make their sound and performance. That is completely not the case with The Warning. 1) They play all the instruments on their tracks, 2) if the track fails during a performance, they just keep going and still make great music, and 3) the acoustic versions of a number of their songs show that they don't really NEED them to play well and give a great show.
-They are very effective as a three-piece because Pau and Ale are so locked in as a rhythm section. They both grew up playing jazz, funk, and a variety of other genres in addition to rock, so understand how to establish and keep a groove pocket going. MORE is one of my favorite songs to point this out to people.
Great analysis. Thanks for taking the time to share with us.
Thank you for adding many great observations 👏
Wow this was a really insightful analysis about The Warning's songwriting, I especially like the points about sparseness and contrasts. And yes, we all expect The Warning to continue to grow as musicians, performers, artists and songwriters - we expect great things in the next album, I'm really excited for the official version of Hell You Call A Dream! And I really like how you highlight The Warning's use of vocalization, I think it helps fill out the sound and bring in audience participation; plus having 3 vocalists it just makes a lot of sense
Oh yeah the fact that they are all excellent singers is icing on the cake! I'm a sucker for good vocal harmonies and arrangements.
In one of Dany's Masterclass streams, she taught us how to play More with the pitch bending section. Sick with the fly buzz lick is great!
Oh cool, I did watch how she plays live and my own approach is not quite the same, but it’s a killer part however you play it
Interesting analysis and presentation. Thank you.
Much appreciated😁
I believe they had someone else write, or co-write with them, the lyrics for the song "More".
I would like to know how much influence they had in the lyrics and the music composition ...
Did they write the instrumental component only themselves ?
If someone knows, please do tell.
Thanks. :))
I'm not sure, hopefully someone closer to the situation may chime in.
So Keith I find the song Disciple just full of moments, especially the live versions like the Teatro CDMX concert. Simistic? More like AWESOME!
The live version has power that studio versions don’t for sure
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"Enter Sandman" is "classic rock" to you? 😅
@@AriKoinuma Maybe not in a purist sense, but it is over 30 years old. Automobiles are called classic at age 20. 😉
@@charlielightfoot7006 ha ha, fair.
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Very interesting and insightful analysis. Thanks for posting.
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There's a short @TNRSound called: "The Warning - MORE or less!?" the vocals are removed from MORE which is much darker without vocals and stands on it's own as an instrumental imhop.
I have heard the instrumental version, and it is awesomely heavy and ominous sounding.
@@AriKoinuma I searched "MORE instrumental" found the full version, yes ominous is a good description. Lot of melodic stuff going on in a song when you can strip the vocal and the song works well as an instrumental!.
Disciple does have much more power than the studio version, particularly the Teatro version. There the ''moments'' in the song really stand out. Like, the "two, three, GO!'' And the drum fill at the end of the second chorus. And Pau's little double bounce with Ale's double slide... but the instrumental break, Dani's dirty guitar, her exhortations to the crowd with just Pau's mighty right thigh and Ale's single bass notes, then the lovely dirty guitar before the ''hear my calling'' all add up to the ultimate way to do this song.
Great analysis! 👏
I think they do interesting things to make their sound larger. In the Disciple intro it goes bass, add guitar, add drums and then Pau throws a fill and bass drops down an octave while the guitar uses an octave pedal (Ithink, could be wrong on this). This is much more pronounce on live versions. It also seems that they mix bass and drum lines that are different on each verse. I think the thing that really creates their "Warning" signature sound is the vocals. Dany and Pau layer vocals on top usually harmonizing in thirds or fourths while Ale doubles the main melody an octave below. This is what I am hearing, would love to hear what others are picking up.
There are many nuances for sure, quite impressive for a 3-piece. They do use backing tracks live but more for subtle things in the background.
Nice video! I love their riffs, they have so many cool riffs! I second your analogy to Alice in Chains, another band with great riffs! Do you know Dam That River? One of the best riffs in rock history to me! Thanks for your review! 👍🤘
Thanks for watching! Yes I know AIC Dam that River. It rips 🤘
71 yo here. This trio has one hell of a future. Im excited to see how they fill the shoes of great R&R bands from my era. Their live sound is as impressive as their studio. That is a HUGE accomplishment in itself. I have experienced great bands in the past who never accomplished this.
I just hope they stay together. I have seen other sibling bands stop, mostly because -- being siblings don't mean you are meant to be in the business of a rock band together. They are in their early 20s now, will they want to keep their lives so tightly intertwined in their late 20s, 30s and beyond? I can totally understand if they don't want to.
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Life in the fast lane takes it toll. I'm sure the pressure is immense, not wanting to let family and crew down. I really hope the best for these young ladies. The most important accomplishments in life are to be healthy and happy. These young girls have the ability to make a dent in the Universe. Time will tell.
@@moneybagsknottbob1784 oh yeah I recognize that my desire for them to stay together is a selfish one. Like I said I totally understand if they move on to do different things in life. You can't expect someone to know exactly what you're going to do the rest of their lives in their teens -- even with stuff they were passionate about then.
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I have to admit, I have the same selfish desire. 👍
I have no expertise as a song writer, so my comments are strictly from a listeners perspective. I discovered this band nearly six years ago, and have loved their song writing up until the two most recent songs you highlighted. They both have no appeal to me. The band is known for being fluid songwriters, so I am not surprised by the changes. They have moved into a more late 1990s/2000s style, which drove me away from listening to rock music 30 years ago. The good news for me, is that the band will continue their fluid approach so there is plenty of music to look forward to in the future.
That's fair. My perspective is from someone who studies songwriting, but whether a song appeals to someone or not is totally subjective, personal thing. The most well written music will still not appeal to everyone. We songwriters just have to write the best songs we can, the ones we like ourselves, and hope that others like it too.
I do like the two most recent songs, but I also get where you’re coming from. They do sound a bit conventional to my ears. That’s not necessarily bad but let’s see how things pan out over the album.
@roywall8169 I have to agree with you on their last two songs ... They weren't my favorites either although I will say I have "warmed" up to More once I saw it performed "live". I do enjoy the song "Sick" but the "animated" video I find distracts my interest in the music. Seems very 90's pop-ish. They are still early in the career so maybe this is just due to their desire to explore their creativity. I am waiting to see their release of "Hell You Call A Dream". I hope they do an entertainment video versus something animated. I love their music and I guess we all have to be patient and wait to see how they come out of this "exploratory" phase.
Great insights Ari. Though, of course as everyone's own experience with music is subject to their own tastes, I find the songwriting on Queen of the Murder Scene to be better. No, it's not as well mixed and produced, but maybe that's why I enjoy it more. S!CK, More, those just seem too simple lyrically, hopefully that's a fluke. Musically, they are fine.
Well ultimately the band needs to say what they want to say. I'm not super familiar with their entire catalog but from a fellow songwriter's perspective the recent songs seem more mature -- but whether they appeal to someone is an entirely different matter.
Thanks for watching and also for your kind words. 🙏
Appreciate your analysis! Your generalized assessment of songwriting seems spot on. As we all know, true greatness at the highest level, can’t be taught. You have it, or you don’t. They do! “God is in the details” someone once said. The Warning, and their whole TEAM, seem to understand that.
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They certainly seem to have great collaborators. Which doesn't detract from how great they are.
Lot of their older songs are put together rather well in my opinion.
I don't disagree there.
@arikuinomo I know your reaction was to their song writing evolution from their most recent productions but IMO you might really see that evolution more clearly in some of their earlier productions. They wrote and composed a concept album at the ages of 11, 14, and 16. Their album Queen of The Murder Scene is a brilliant production! Then look at their earlier album 21st Century Blood. Their evolution between just these two albums ... again in my opinion ... speaks volumes about how much they have grown from album to album.
Oh no doubt. Especially at the age when they started it would be surprising if one didn’t see Major evolution happening over the years.
Very interesting. The Warning have the ability to write captivating music. Much more than any other band I have heard before. There are many bands I completely have scraped after discovering TW three years ago. And they have revived rock music. A band is as good as its drummer hmm.. Paulina got the award for best rock drummer of 2023, so that would technically make The Warning the best band of 2023. Great reaction!
Thanks! I wholeheartedly believe that a band is as good as its drummer. By “good” I don’t mean playing fancy fills but it’s like they create a container in which the rest of the band gets to play in, and bands with small or insecure sounding drummers, unfortunately, don’t sound good at all. Pau is a great one, and she sings while doing it 🤯
Un buen analisis y detallado,gracias por reacionar a las chicas..❤❤❤❤
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THE WARNING IS REALLY GOOD, AND THEY WILL GET BETTER OVER TIME 😂😂
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Nice review. One the common pitfall that I see from musicians analyzing music is to equal complex with better, for me the question to ask is not CAN they do something, the proper question is SHOULD they do something. A musician being able to play a more complex composition does not mean that they should, as a listener I find that the "less is more" maxim works more often than not, when it comes to music, especially Rock.
I totally agree! A decent musician can easily go down the rabbit hole and have too many layers, too many notes, etc. But on the other hand being too simplistic and repetitive can get tiring, too. Hitting the sweet spot in the middle -- that takes mastery.
As a music listener I’ve found all these to be true. Music can be:
Simple and good.
Complex and good.
Simple and bad.
Complex and bad.
In a way, it’s harder to create a song that’s simple and good. Hot Love by T. Rex is a very good example of this. At least, to me! 😊
The Error tracks were written in 2020. The band has repeatedly referred to them as "old songs"!
That does seem a long time ago. That was during COVID. 😅
How about a video of their more melodic songs such as Breathe, 23, When I'm Alone, and their two songs in Spanish.
I’ll think about it, though I will probably make videos about other artists in the near future…
I'm surprised a bit how much I enjoyed your analysis. I think you vindicated producer Anton DeLost, although his critics might not appreciate it, and I am not among those critics. The girls have achieved considerable mastery of contrast and slight variations to avoid monotony.
Glad you enjoyed it. With the later song's production, there are thing I'd do differently if I were the producer... 😅 but that doesn't take away from the songwriting and arrangement (though I'm not sure how much the producer got involved in arranging the songs) mastery they have achieved.
@@AriKoinuma I'm not sure either. He did get a songwriting credit, but the girls are humble and thoughtful like that.
I would like to hear what you think about their "remastered" version of Metallica's "Enter Sandman". IMHO what they did with the song was brilliant! To think that they did this under very rigid time constraints and at the same time adapting the song to work with a pop artist in their first collaboration is just kind of mind blowing!
Agreed, it’s a masterful rearrangement.
No I wasn't aware of that. I'll check it out. Thanks!
Very good analysis. Something to remember on their song writing that all there music early teachers were Mexican. This has had affect on their interpretation of rock. Mexican music in all its facets tends to focus on the emotion of melody, poetry, and the voice with very limited solo instrument work. It is about a complete song. With this as their foundation and American rock as their target The Warning are giving us some fantastic music. At least until one of them has life catch up to them gets married and group breaks up and then they start their solo careers. Hopefully a several years away.
That’s a great perspective about the influence of Mexican culture. And I agree about life catching up… I’m aware of 3 other sibling acts (not counting Oasis and Black Crowes!) and all of them stopped eventually. A band is a business and it’s rare to find sibling groups that really want to stay in business together for a lifetime.
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Thanks I learned a lot from your analysis.
Thanks for watching!
I read elsewhere that DPA studied songwriting in their time at Berklee. An observation, to energize the next section of a song, they often "throw" the song from the last bar of a section to the 1 of the next bar by stopping on the 3 or 4. Ringo did this. I've enjoyed your analysis. Thanks!
Good points. Thanks!
One commonality with TWB is that Dani may sing the first lines or the first verse with no guitar, or minimal guitar, just Ale and Pau. Who does that!!?? TW that's who.
Starting sparse is a best practice. Gives the song something to build up later. 🙌
GOOD ANALYSIS ARI ! KEEP IT UP ! NEW SUB ...
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Don't get me wrong, but to me you seem to be just on the tip of the iceberg with a noticeable focus on Danies guitar ... But there's so much more to explore in their writing and their playing. How they manage key changes how they manage variations how they harmonize over all three voices. Therefore you need to analyze from the beginning to the end. You will see that they never repeat anything in the same way. Each part is always a little different. And you will find each perspective of each instrument taken care of - you can see that all of the three bring in their musical skills in the writing and all of them reached an unbelievable high level on their individual instruments. I'm analysing music for 43 years now, but I haven't ever seen such a phenomenon the villarreal sisters truly are.
There's a reason why the world reacts to them as it does, why pau has been choosen to be best drummer of the year, why Ale is the youngest receiver of signature instruments of Spector ever and why Danie is gifted with unique guitars by Lzzy Hale and Matt Bellamy themselves. Something extraordinary is going on here and we're blessed to be witness of this...
well put, thanks for your thoughts.
Choke rocks, if the song moves you, who cares if it's simplistic or whatever. That was the first song I heard from them. When she sings "let me dive in" I would think of the words "holy diver"😂. The punch it gives you moves your soul 🙏🕯️🌌😃🎶✌️🎼🎵⚠️⚠️⚠️☠️💀🎸🤘🌠🎹👍🇲🇽🇯🇵🌪️🎯🔥🌍🌏🌎🥁🔥
Oh I’m not denying it’s a powerful song, and different songs/lyrics strike people differently. There is power in simplicity also.
@@AriKoinuma and greatness☯️
While I have an issue with your comment about the later two songs being an "improvement" of the "simpler" error songs, it neglects that some of the most interesting ( and sometimes "simpler" musical devices occurred before Error and Queen of the Murder Scene contained some breath stopping musical ideas. I felt that the "simplification" of error may have been a conscious choice to help reset their music. Well that is my take on it anyway. If I have a favourite TW song it would be "23" from Error which isn't even a rock song, but more a lament. The musical biggie in this song for me is the power of the words into the musical lyric line. Error has , for me, has songs that seem to have a feel of "What can we explore here and hoe far can we take it and still be accessable. It would surprise me not in the least if sooner or later they go beyond accessable just to see what's there. Even the Beatles did that, and I don't think they were as talented as these three.
That’s fair, I don’t mean to devalue their earlier songs in any ways, though I also stick by my comment that at least among these five songs the latter two seem more mature in terms of songwriting craft perspective. How they strike listeners is a totally separate issue. Sometimes more “mature” stuff goes into less relatable direction, for example.
@@AriKoinuma I agree the song writing has more pointy ideas musically, but the words in "sick" are a wierd "young teen" angst/ shock/yell retrograde move ( in my opinion). Could be a conscious move to pull back one and advance the other, so the next move to upgrade both would be more noticeable, but maybe I am over-thinking it a bit.
@arikuinomo ... Just one more thing ... I've watched you review/reaction several times and I really liked it but IMO you are missing the essence of the talent of this band. Yes Dani sometimes corporates simplistic guitar parts in the song but you have to understand that she is covering both lead and rythym guitar AND doing the vocals. You also missed the fact that Ale on the base is covering bass and rythym guitar parts as well. There are very few bassists that can do that. Pau is a force all on her own. I've heard many experts say to be a great band you need a great drummer. I think Pau certainly has that covered. This is a three piece band. How complicated can they get? How complicated should they get? Many great three piece bands through out rock history (Grand Funk Railroad, ZZ Top, Rush, to name a few) have done it this way and have acheived greatness. Sometimes the KISS (not the band but the metod "Keep It Simple Sir") works just as well. They produce great music and it's awesome to listen to. Just my opinion
Hey thanks for offering your observations! I don’t disagree with anything you said. Music has so many layers so if we picked out everything we can make a hours-long video on a single song (maybe I should try that sometime 🤔)
-The Warning desde sus inicios se a caracterizado por tocar temas duros de rock clasico en forma excelente,TW muestra su calidad y pasión por el buen rock ,no hay la menor duda de que TW es el mejor trío de de rock duro del 2024 ,son tremendas y sus temas son increíbles ,esto es rock
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What about Evolve????
There is so much to Evolve. My favorite is the time signature prechorus that goes into 7/8 for four bars.
Originally I was just going to cover "More" in this video but as I dug in I also wanted to compare other songs. But I had to stop somewhere 😅
Aloha Koinuma san, hajime mashite...my name is Gen Boyer...yes it is a Japanese name, even though I am only half Okinawan. I found your review of The Warning's songwriting very omoshiroi, nee! So I took a look at your catalog of The Warning reactions and I see that this is the only one you have done about their compositional skills. Have you explored their earlier compositions? I would love to hear your critique of their album Queen Of The Murder Scene (2018). It would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on how these young ladies' songwriting was in comparison to what they are doing now! If you have time please do a comparison video, onegaishimasu! Mahalo, Arigatoo, Muchas Gracias! #APDVillaReality
Hajime mashite Gen san! I appreciate the suggestion, though I will probably make videos about other things before returning the Warning… but they have a great catalog for sure.
@@AriKoinuma - Aloha, I totally understand, however, if you were to look at other "reactors" channels that have begun to review The Warning in depth, they have received huge amounts of views and subscriptions, because The Warning Army is obsessed with this band and love to support any reactor willing to make the deep dive into their catalog. And because I am one of those fans, that is why I find your reviews/opinions/analysis to be of a higher caliber than most reactors. Please consider doing a The Warning reaction in between your other reactions. Ooneegaishimasu! Gen
I like your analysis. You use terms like "more mature". When it comes to a song I've never used that term to describe why I like one song more than another. I like all three songs you played off "Error" better than "More". I like "Disciple" better than "More" and "S!CK". I guess I like a more "immature" song. That's sorta is a dis my music taste.🤔
That's fair, and don't mean to diss anybody's taste. There are "immature" songs I enjoy greatly, too. But I guess I'm using that term from the mastery / skill development perspective. The newer songs, IMHO, convey they are growing as writers / artists. Does one like the newer songs better? That's a totally separate question.
I WONDER IF YOU HAVE HEARD A WOMEN BY THE NAME OF TINA.S PLAYING THE GUITAR 🎸 SHE IS SO FENOMENET ON THE GUITAR 🎸 😂😂
No, I am not familiar with her.
@AriKoinuma Try to listen to this Tina .S she is on RUclips, just amazing 👏
I'm pretty sure the warning is for the amount of musical cliches incoming.
The fun part of songwriting theory is when someone desents. I'll do it since it looks like no one else here will.
Let’s get some facts straight. Enter Sandman was not TW’s first video. It IS the one that launched their career. Also, Dany was fourteen in that video - so already a teen. Pau and Ale were not yet teens.
Hi Dave,
The song S!CK used to be at 80% in the Louder new rock songs competition and it is now at 49% so we need people to show up and vote. If you would like to vote Google " Louder the best Rock songs you must hear right now" and the Warning next it. We need to spread the word.
Thank you.
@@SDsailor7 Voted. Now says 47.18%
Thanks for getting the facts straight. 🙌🙏 Also I got Dany's spelling wrong. 😅
@@ronaldmorgan7632 Thank you Ronald, let's hope it's starts going back up