I tend to stick to print sizes that can be framed easily & cheaply (UK) A5, A4, A3, 30cm x 30cm & 50cm x 50cm etc. The #1 question I get asked is "what size frame do i need" & "where can I get a frame for it"
VERY SIGNIFICANT .......7 min 5 seconds ..... "Dont get too hung up on what your own favourite prints are." ......... just because it's your favourite, it does not mean that others see it the same.........100% agree ....... though, developeing the foresight of correctly judging which images will be big sellers is definitely one of the skills that a pro develops.........over time ......with market knowledge.
Having lived in several countries, and in homes, vs. apartments, there are big differences in the kind of "space" for pictures, both physically and culturally. Many flats have smaller room sizes than a house, but, in older buildings in Europe, they often have much taller ceilings than a normal UK or USA apartment... then, in the USA, one has the California vs. Texas vs. New York kind of differences in size of house, and level of "flash" that people are comfortable with, from "down home" to big ranch house, or east coast mansions... Nice video.
Excellent advice, Keith. I think a simple - operational - version of what you say is to ask around what frame sizes are sold most, which ones are available (in stock), and check if the pictures are framed as is (full frame ;) ), or if a matte is used (that matte in Dutch we call "passepartout" borrowed from French and means either master-key, or references the posh cardboard frame in frame with a hole cut out for the photo (bevelled edge) and then it fills the frame as it means "fits anything" in this case). Sometimes more than one passepartout was used and in different tones. One of the golden olden rules with passepartouts is that the picture should never be in the vertical middle, but above it. This follows master carpenter and master construction worker logic that "equal=unequal". In my (Netherlands) country, us neighbouring to German, we adopted the German DIN paper size norm a long time ago. Yet, I had a hard time finding an outlet that had A3 size in stock.
I've found that landscape and seascape photo customers want "wallpaper size" prints, while "people photo" customers usually wants smaller. What surprised me a lot, was that there's a return of the "passport size" photo (because it's suitable for a photo of your loved one in your wallet) lately (the nineties have returned). Also - mothers tend to want 10x15cm (4x6", "postcard") images of their children for photo albums (that one will probably never go out of style). So I'm sticking to that for MY business, printing up to a3+ at home makes sense, maintenance for a larger printer becomes a lot more expensive, and it becomes better economy to simply outsource the printing job to one of the businesses that specialize in printing (if you do, make sure you find a business that actually gives you access to their ICC profiles so you can softproof). Another thing: Try to find one or two paper types that are available on all sizes you're going to sell (plus A4 for calibration). In my case that means Canon LU-101 in A3+ (and A4), and PP-201 in 4x6 (and A4) (I print on an Imageprograf Pro300)
I tried to frame myself some photos but I discovered to my surprise that frames for the 3:2 aspect ratio are difficult to find, other aspect ratios such as 4:3 or 7:5 are more easily available....thank for the interesting video by the way....
P.S. in case you missed it : the rats are paddling back to DPreview , Sony fanboys sharpening their arguments, Pentax depressives leaving home again . . . the world is a better place over night
Yes, thanks Like many I suspect, my reaction to their new overlords was "who?" I never saw much of the forum behaviour which people complain about - then again I was quite specific where I wandered about... ;-)
I tend to stick to print sizes that can be framed easily & cheaply (UK) A5, A4, A3, 30cm x 30cm & 50cm x 50cm etc.
The #1 question I get asked is "what size frame do i need" & "where can I get a frame for it"
Yes - local knowledge aimed directly at your market
Thanks
VERY SIGNIFICANT .......7 min 5 seconds ..... "Dont get too hung up on what your own favourite prints are." .........
just because it's your favourite, it does not mean that others see it the same.........100% agree .......
though, developeing the foresight of correctly judging which images will be big sellers is
definitely one of the skills that a pro develops.........over time ......with market knowledge.
Thanks - it's easily missed
Having lived in several countries, and in homes, vs. apartments, there are big differences in the kind of "space" for pictures, both physically and culturally.
Many flats have smaller room sizes than a house, but, in older buildings in Europe, they often have much taller ceilings than a normal UK or USA apartment... then, in the USA, one has the California vs. Texas vs. New York kind of differences in size of house, and level of "flash" that people are comfortable with, from "down home" to big ranch house, or east coast mansions... Nice video.
Thanks - you can't beat actual knowledge of what works in your area.
Excellent advice, Keith. I think a simple - operational - version of what you say is to ask around what frame sizes are sold most, which ones are available (in stock), and check if the pictures are framed as is (full frame ;) ), or if a matte is used (that matte in Dutch we call "passepartout" borrowed from French and means either master-key, or references the posh cardboard frame in frame with a hole cut out for the photo (bevelled edge) and then it fills the frame as it means "fits anything" in this case). Sometimes more than one passepartout was used and in different tones. One of the golden olden rules with passepartouts is that the picture should never be in the vertical middle, but above it. This follows master carpenter and master construction worker logic that "equal=unequal".
In my (Netherlands) country, us neighbouring to German, we adopted the German DIN paper size norm a long time ago. Yet, I had a hard time finding an outlet that had A3 size in stock.
Thanks - I agree that finding frames is a good move!
I've found that landscape and seascape photo customers want "wallpaper size" prints, while "people photo" customers usually wants smaller. What surprised me a lot, was that there's a return of the "passport size" photo (because it's suitable for a photo of your loved one in your wallet) lately (the nineties have returned). Also - mothers tend to want 10x15cm (4x6", "postcard") images of their children for photo albums (that one will probably never go out of style).
So I'm sticking to that for MY business, printing up to a3+ at home makes sense, maintenance for a larger printer becomes a lot more expensive, and it becomes better economy to simply outsource the printing job to one of the businesses that specialize in printing (if you do, make sure you find a business that actually gives you access to their ICC profiles so you can softproof).
Another thing: Try to find one or two paper types that are available on all sizes you're going to sell (plus A4 for calibration). In my case that means Canon LU-101 in A3+ (and A4), and PP-201 in 4x6 (and A4) (I print on an Imageprograf Pro300)
Thanks for that
Lots of good information in this one. Thanks for posting.
Glad it was helpful!
Good advice Keith (as usual). I'm exhibiting my some of my prints at an art fair next. I'll soon find out if I've picked the right size!
Thanks - I'd be curious to hear what you discover
@@KeithCooper I shall report back!
I tried to frame myself some photos but I discovered to my surprise that frames for the 3:2 aspect ratio are difficult to find, other aspect ratios such as 4:3 or 7:5 are more easily available....thank for the interesting video by the way....
Thanks - the sizes, and how you fit smaller images on to them can take a bit of juggling. It was one reason I got my own matt cutter.
Another good video Keith.
Thanks!
Great video. Glossy luster or matt?
Thanks
It depends... Your tastes, image type, market expectations, print size...
@@KeithCooper thank you. Which one you use? 🥂
All sorts - depends in image size and purpose
Least used is glossy
@@KeithCooper 🥂
P.S. in case you missed it : the rats are paddling back to DPreview , Sony fanboys sharpening their arguments, Pentax depressives leaving home again . . . the world is a better place over night
Yes, thanks
Like many I suspect, my reaction to their new overlords was "who?"
I never saw much of the forum behaviour which people complain about - then again I was quite specific where I wandered about... ;-)
@@KeithCooper :)