So pastor, I think I'm missing your point. If no trinity then who is Jesus (man or God) and is the H.S. a God or essence or...? Can you make it simple without adding the history? I just need 1+1= tyoe answer 😀 Sometimes I wonder if our creator is shaking his head while the angels laugh at us attempting to make sense 😒.
D.J.R I like your simplicity. No the angels are not laughing at us because of this confusion. It is the devil that has seen to it that God be not worshipped in his glory. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh! God through his word created life in Mary's womb. That holy child that was born was Emmanuel, or God with us. The Holy Spirit is God himself. Not a third person, but God as he moves and operates. That is why the bible says that God would "pour out his spirit upon all flesh."
@@approvedofGod your kind and thank you for the answer. I'm struggling in seeing Jesus as God because of scripture itself. He was sent by the father and what he does is for the glory of the father (God). My friends are concerned im treading dangerous grounds because of my unbelief of Jesus's father and previous diety. I acknowledge him as our savior appointed by God but not as the creator. I see why people accept the trinity but not even that do I accept. The peace I have is no trinity and Jesus not the creator but one approved by God (no pun intended). Ive begun to question the Bible and its accuracy because after a while it creates one to feel delusional.. versus that say that he's Lord and God,, he and the father are one, or he was sent by.. why would God send himself, have himself in mind from the beginning and pray to himself like a looney? One of the pastors from.. the church I attend just said they'll pray for me while the other hasn't connected to help me in the matter. If my rejection is a salvation issue I would have assumed one of them would have addressed this immediately as my soul might be in danger. That's what I get for attending a seeker friendly church, smh.
@@astutik8909 thank you. I also recognized the scriptures you mentioned and understood as you have. Its hard to say the bible is not flawed when so much division has risen from it due to obvious contradictions. I often thought 1 theso 5:21-23 was to be used also to discernment the spirit of the Bible since its passed through man. I mean if God's earth and all on it was created by him and was good thrn again was not ( tampered by evil and humans succame to temptation) , the Bible can be on the same boat. Curious to know more about your thoughts /belief on Christianity, Nicea, Greek and Jewish philosphers... im bracing myself while digging for truth. I'm not giving up. So you're a unitarian? Need to reserach who they are.
@@astutik8909 I was attempting to send a follow up comment but could not. Question: if you believe the Bible has contradictions and misguidances , how is your faith grounded on bible? The bible would then not be inerrant . I know God is in all things but even the Bible should be tested because it's in the world , though inspired by G , man still had a hold of it. We were warned of false teachings so who says it would not come from the tampering of the Bible. Various philosphers, king and men of" belief" coming together to make sense of Scriptures and the relationship between G, J. And H.S sounds like a new doctrine ein the making based on intellect and royal power. Not to mention that Constantin was a questionable Christian. Not sure if you've noticed but the voice of God sounds different from OT to NT. Something about it... Help us H.S 🙏🏽
So pastor, I think I'm missing your point. If no trinity then who is Jesus (man or God) and is the H.S. a God or essence or...? Can you make it simple without adding the history? I just need 1+1= tyoe answer 😀
Sometimes I wonder if our creator is shaking his head while the angels laugh at us attempting to make sense 😒.
D.J.R
I like your simplicity. No the angels are not laughing at us because of this confusion. It is the devil that has seen to it that God be not worshipped in his glory.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh! God through his word created life in Mary's womb. That holy child that was born was Emmanuel, or God with us.
The Holy Spirit is God himself. Not a third person, but God as he moves and operates. That is why the bible says that God would "pour out his spirit upon all flesh."
@@approvedofGod your kind and thank you for the answer. I'm struggling in seeing Jesus as God because of scripture itself. He was sent by the father and what he does is for the glory of the father (God). My friends are concerned im treading dangerous grounds because of my unbelief of Jesus's father and previous diety. I acknowledge him as our savior appointed by God but not as the creator. I see why people accept the trinity but not even that do I accept. The peace I have is no trinity and Jesus not the creator but one approved by God (no pun intended). Ive begun to question the Bible and its accuracy because after a while it creates one to feel delusional.. versus that say that he's Lord and God,, he and the father are one, or he was sent by.. why would God send himself, have himself in mind from the beginning and pray to himself like a looney?
One of the pastors from.. the church I attend just said they'll pray for me while the other hasn't connected to help me in the matter. If my rejection is a salvation issue I would have assumed one of them would have addressed this immediately as my soul might be in danger.
That's what I get for attending a seeker friendly church, smh.
@@astutik8909 thank you. I also recognized the scriptures you mentioned and understood as you have. Its hard to say the bible is not flawed when so much division has risen from it due to obvious contradictions. I often thought 1 theso 5:21-23 was to be used also to discernment the spirit of the Bible since its passed through man. I mean if God's earth and all on it was created by him and was good thrn again was not ( tampered by evil and humans succame to temptation) , the Bible can be on the same boat.
Curious to know more about your thoughts /belief on Christianity, Nicea, Greek and Jewish philosphers... im bracing myself while digging for truth. I'm not giving up.
So you're a unitarian? Need to reserach who they are.
@@astutik8909 Amen and thank you.
@@astutik8909 I was attempting to send a follow up comment but could not.
Question: if you believe the Bible has contradictions and misguidances , how is your faith grounded on bible?
The bible would then not be inerrant .
I know God is in all things but even the Bible should be tested because it's in the world , though inspired by G , man still had a hold of it. We were warned of false teachings so who says it would not come from the tampering of the Bible. Various philosphers, king and men of" belief" coming together to make sense of Scriptures and the relationship between G, J. And H.S sounds like a new doctrine ein the making based on intellect and royal power. Not to mention that Constantin was a questionable Christian.
Not sure if you've noticed but the voice of God sounds different from OT to NT. Something about it...
Help us H.S 🙏🏽