Exactly. I had to explain to my dentist how I wanted the flange so the implant line would not show when smiling; and the structure of my mouth would be pushe out to where it was when I had my original teeth. now my mouth structure is the way it was before. now I have the best of both worlds.
It's true, I got all on 4 and soon as my swelling went down, my top lip fell flat. Didn't have the shape it used to. It was just hanging. I assumed the teeth could be built different (and they will) but I can't take these in and out for 6 months. So I had to modify my lip itself to compensate. I got two 10 unit lip flips (botox in the top lip makes it curl upward) and when that helped but still wasn't enough I went and got 1ml lip filler, injected vertically (russian procedure) it gave my top lip height instead of volume, and did shorten the distance between my nose and top lip. But it cost me $$ to get myself looking normal again... I think implant dentists should include lip filler if needed for patients to make them look like themselves again, especially for that 35k pricetag... make me look like myself again at least...
I plan on having my final top bridge made with the bottom of the front teeth protruding slightly, to add a bit more lip support. These point straight downward so much that they almost feel like they point backwards a little...
The big difference between fixed and snap in dentures besides cost is that the patient with fixed has to go back to the dentist for removal and cleanings while snap in the patient can clean them on a regular bases at home with no cost.Ridge shrinkage depends on the patient.Some have a lot after only a few years while others have very healthy ridges after 20 years plus wearing dentures.
Incorrect you still need to go and get cleanings and maintenance. On top of that you need to reline snap in dentures at least once a year because lack of doing so can cause implant failure. You also need to change your locator/snap in inserts once a year as they lose strength. All of these things cost time and money. A fixed prosthetic only needs to be taken off for cleaning if hygiene instructions aren’t being followed properly or a problem can be seen with one or more of the implants that makes it necessary to take it off.
@@jirotromI don't know where you get your information from but I'm a Dental tech with 50years experience.We do a lot of snap in dentures and the patient is able to remove the denture and clean them themselves.They can clean their gums regularly with a soft brush.The inserts don't have to be change regularly only when needed.We don't charge for that.Relines don't have to be done every year only when needed and unlike fixed dentures the implants for snap in dentures are MOSTLY FOR RETENTION and the denture themselves obsorb most of the forces as they are tissue bearing.Dentists Recommend having having fixed dentures removed and cleaned at least once a year preferably twice a year.Cleaning with a water pick does not clean everything.
That's because it varies so much case by case . I just finished, and it was 52,000, but I had to have bone grafting as I'd been in dentures since I was 28 & did upper and lower. There really are so many variables so you can't expect this dr to give prices. Before any negative comments, I'd like to add that I've waited many years due to finances, we waited until we could borrow against our home. It was that important to me as it was really affecting my health.
Quick question: For the 'overdenture' would this be an option for someone with Mandibular tori? (Excellent information and thank you for discussing all options and the pros/cons of each.)
Dentists are pushing implants...which are not that great...most dentists nowadays are very mercenary...hard to find one that truly has your best health at heart. they all seem to want big bucks.
This is so true, it isn’t the best option but it is the easiest for the dentist and the most lucrative. The best example I have heard if was an implant dentist doing this work trying to do a different and more complex version for his own father (three on six), if the all on4 was so great why would he have chose the other version for his own father? Rarely will a dentist put his clients needs first, just like doctors, they loose sight of why they wanted to do this work in the first place and slowly $ and time become their first priorities. Like this guy, he will only talk about what he does and he won’t mention the other options, that are out there, despite the fact that they are far more natural looking, more comfortable and far more aesthetically pleasing, because he doesn’t do that more difficult work and his profit is in what he does and he won’t put the patients interest before his own. Personally if I was in an industry and I knew there was a newer and more successful technology available, I would do everything I could to be able to offer that product. I’m sure it isn’t easy to change your tooling etc but how do you go in offering a sub optimal product to your customers especially when it’s something which impacts their lives on such a deep level. Three on six, and it’s usually cheaper 😳
What are you even talking about? Yes implants are absolutely “that great.” If you don’t get an implant and leave the space where your tooth was, your bone will start to resorb and it will start tilting the adjacent teeth inwards. Ignoring a tooth that needs an implant is going to cause more issues down the line which results in more procedures and higher cost. Implants are the best treatment we have, which is why dentists push implants…. Inform yourself of these situations before passing judgement….. if you want to be mad at anyone be mad at insurance companies who to this day have a $2-4K yearly maximum and refuse to cover implants because they claim they’re cosmetic despite decades of research and data proving very much otherwise.
@@maemae1752I have quite literally never experienced anything like what you just talked about. (Insurance companies themselves though are an entirely different situation and they only care about money, that much is very true.) In terms of the father situation, everyone is different and needs their own treatment plan. It’s incredibly offensive and honestly just misinformed to pass such judgment against people who quite literally spend their entire lives studying and at times work 80-100+ hours a week so when your husband, wife, father, mother gets to come home at the end of the day because something happened to them, or that you can have 100% of your bite force back after you lost all your teeth due to genetics. Your whole take is a take of someone who is misinformed and pretty dense.
Complete denture supported with imlants, the major disadvantage of implant fixture, its configuration ,root direction, size, is quite different from natural teeth, without periodontal membrane like natural root, and born to be designed bio-engineering to resist vertical occlusal force. So in clinical situation, fixtures is susceptible to non axial occlusal force, easy to lead to chronic progressive bone destruction around fixture, with ending moveable failing denture. Lots of literatures revealed late biological and bio-mechanical complications, like peri-implantitis implant screw fracture and crown bridge loss. Contrary to conventional complete denture ,with BPS suction- effective technique, is quite stable retentive comfortable to use, without phonetic and food trap problem in dental implant fixed ALL-on-four denture. so many people do not realized.
Over time the 'rubbery bits' need to be replaced. HA! Sometimes that can be 10 years. The 'rubbery bits' can be replaced at home and costs a few dollars/pounds or even pennies. Good grief. There isn't much to distinguish screwed in prosthetics from click in versions. Just screws, or no screws. Click in versions are FAR better where hygiene is concerned and home maintenance becomes very easy. Otherwise, no difference to speak of or make a thing about.
Hello there, I've contacted you because your world class clinic seems to offer higher end treatment and patient respect.. Please advise me as I am concerned with the final payment of the location I've chosen.. I've been in treatment for 5 months for a full mouth(all on 6) zirconia prosthesis install, and have already paid a fortune for resin fittings.. that still break :/ Now I'm asked to pay the final $20.000 Should my final payment be made before the Zirconia racks are done and installed or after they have been made and fitted? What is the obligation to make sure the job is done right if paid before completion?.. I am from Canada but went to Brazil for this procedure. At 49, I'm reaching out because I am super worried to be taken advantage of as these are my life savings and biggest investment for my well being in my life. Would you be so kind as to share with me your ethical procedure for when my final instalment should be made please? Thank you for taking the time to help me. Cordially, Gaël.
The best presentation on this I've watched. You were relaxed believable.
Thank you! Glad I was able to help
Thank you for this very informative presentation.
Can you provide us their prices ?.So.We can have some ideas about the coast. Thank You.
Can you tell me how much they cost. ???
@@bobmetcalf6851they vary!
Good presentation
No one ever tells people about lip support loss with all on 4 except you.
How I wish I lived closer.
Exactly. I had to explain to my dentist how I wanted the flange so the implant line would not show when smiling; and the structure of my mouth would be pushe out to where it was when I had my original teeth. now my mouth structure is the way it was before. now I have the best of both worlds.
@@eb7027this will not have access to allow you to clean plaque, easy to lead to peri-implantitis
It's true, I got all on 4 and soon as my swelling went down, my top lip fell flat. Didn't have the shape it used to. It was just hanging. I assumed the teeth could be built different (and they will) but I can't take these in and out for 6 months. So I had to modify my lip itself to compensate. I got two 10 unit lip flips (botox in the top lip makes it curl upward) and when that helped but still wasn't enough I went and got 1ml lip filler, injected vertically (russian procedure) it gave my top lip height instead of volume, and did shorten the distance between my nose and top lip. But it cost me $$ to get myself looking normal again... I think implant dentists should include lip filler if needed for patients to make them look like themselves again, especially for that 35k pricetag... make me look like myself again at least...
I plan on having my final top bridge made with the bottom of the front teeth protruding slightly, to add a bit more lip support. These point straight downward so much that they almost feel like they point backwards a little...
Thank you Dr great info
The big difference between fixed and snap in dentures besides cost is that the patient with fixed has to go back to the dentist for removal and cleanings while snap in the patient can clean them on a regular bases at home with no cost.Ridge shrinkage depends on the patient.Some have a lot after only a few years while others have very healthy ridges after 20 years plus wearing dentures.
Incorrect you still need to go and get cleanings and maintenance. On top of that you need to reline snap in dentures at least once a year because lack of doing so can cause implant failure. You also need to change your locator/snap in inserts once a year as they lose strength. All of these things cost time and money. A fixed prosthetic only needs to be taken off for cleaning if hygiene instructions aren’t being followed properly or a problem can be seen with one or more of the implants that makes it necessary to take it off.
@@jirotromI don't know where you get your information from but I'm a Dental tech with 50years experience.We do a lot of snap in dentures and the patient is able to remove the denture and clean them themselves.They can clean their gums regularly with a soft brush.The inserts don't have to be change regularly only when needed.We don't charge for that.Relines don't have to be done every year only when needed and unlike fixed dentures the implants for snap in dentures are MOSTLY FOR RETENTION and the denture themselves obsorb most of the forces as they are tissue bearing.Dentists Recommend having having fixed dentures removed and cleaned at least once a year preferably twice a year.Cleaning with a water pick does not clean everything.
Ok, looks good
So no maintenance info on the 2nd half of the vid ?
Incomplete without information on upper denture and approximate cost.
That's because it varies so much case by case . I just finished, and it was 52,000, but I had to have bone grafting as I'd been in dentures since I was 28 & did upper and lower. There really are so many variables so you can't expect this dr to give prices. Before any negative comments, I'd like to add that I've waited many years due to finances, we waited until we could borrow against our home. It was that important to me as it was really affecting my health.
Quick question: For the 'overdenture' would this be an option for someone with Mandibular tori? (Excellent information and thank you for discussing all options and the pros/cons of each.)
Please help me to fix reffer any dentist in Chennai to fix the snap on smile tooth set and oblige me
Did I miss something? How does the titanium thing get attached to your gums?
Does any dental insurance cover these?
No they don’t cover implants.
La meilleure technique est le 3on6 😮
I recently had an implant by an oral dentist going price $3k.
What state did u get your quote from if u don't mind me asking?
Dentists are pushing implants...which are not that great...most dentists nowadays are very mercenary...hard to find one that truly has your best health at heart. they all seem to want big bucks.
This is so true, it isn’t the best option but it is the easiest for the dentist and the most lucrative. The best example I have heard if was an implant dentist doing this work trying to do a different and more complex version for his own father (three on six), if the all on4 was so great why would he have chose the other version for his own father?
Rarely will a dentist put his clients needs first, just like doctors, they loose sight of why they wanted to do this work in the first place and slowly $ and time become their first priorities. Like this guy, he will only talk about what he does and he won’t mention the other options, that are out there, despite the fact that they are far more natural looking, more comfortable and far more aesthetically pleasing, because he doesn’t do that more difficult work and his profit is in what he does and he won’t put the patients interest before his own.
Personally if I was in an industry and I knew there was a newer and more successful technology available, I would do everything I could to be able to offer that product. I’m sure it isn’t easy to change your tooling etc but how do you go in offering a sub optimal product to your customers especially when it’s something which impacts their lives on such a deep level. Three on six, and it’s usually cheaper 😳
What are you even talking about? Yes implants are absolutely “that great.” If you don’t get an implant and leave the space where your tooth was, your bone will start to resorb and it will start tilting the adjacent teeth inwards. Ignoring a tooth that needs an implant is going to cause more issues down the line which results in more procedures and higher cost. Implants are the best treatment we have, which is why dentists push implants…. Inform yourself of these situations before passing judgement….. if you want to be mad at anyone be mad at insurance companies who to this day have a $2-4K yearly maximum and refuse to cover implants because they claim they’re cosmetic despite decades of research and data proving very much otherwise.
@@maemae1752I have quite literally never experienced anything like what you just talked about. (Insurance companies themselves though are an entirely different situation and they only care about money, that much is very true.) In terms of the father situation, everyone is different and needs their own treatment plan. It’s incredibly offensive and honestly just misinformed to pass such judgment against people who quite literally spend their entire lives studying and at times work 80-100+ hours a week so when your husband, wife, father, mother gets to come home at the end of the day because something happened to them, or that you can have 100% of your bite force back after you lost all your teeth due to genetics. Your whole take is a take of someone who is misinformed and pretty dense.
Complete denture supported with imlants, the major disadvantage of implant fixture, its configuration ,root direction, size, is quite different from natural teeth, without periodontal membrane like natural root, and born to be designed bio-engineering to resist vertical occlusal force.
So in clinical situation, fixtures is susceptible to non axial occlusal force, easy to lead to chronic progressive bone destruction around fixture, with ending moveable failing denture.
Lots of literatures revealed late biological and bio-mechanical complications, like peri-implantitis implant screw fracture and crown bridge loss.
Contrary to conventional complete denture ,with BPS suction- effective technique, is quite stable retentive comfortable to use, without phonetic and food trap problem in dental implant fixed ALL-on-four denture. so many people do not realized.
I thought dental implants were the same as allnon 4
Over time the 'rubbery bits' need to be replaced.
HA!
Sometimes that can be 10 years. The 'rubbery bits' can be replaced at home and costs a few dollars/pounds or even pennies.
Good grief. There isn't much to distinguish screwed in prosthetics from click in versions. Just screws, or no screws. Click in versions are FAR better where hygiene is concerned and home maintenance becomes very easy. Otherwise, no difference to speak of or make a thing about.
Hello there,
I've contacted you because your world class clinic seems to offer higher end treatment and patient respect..
Please advise me as I am concerned with the final payment of the location I've chosen.. I've been in treatment for 5 months for a full mouth(all on 6) zirconia prosthesis install, and have already paid a fortune for resin fittings.. that still break :/
Now I'm asked to pay the final $20.000
Should my final payment be made before the Zirconia racks are done and installed or after they have been made and fitted?
What is the obligation to make sure the job is done right if paid before completion?.. I am from Canada but went to Brazil for this procedure.
At 49, I'm reaching out because I am super worried to be taken advantage of as these are my life savings and biggest investment for my well being in my life.
Would you be so kind as to share with me your ethical procedure for when my final instalment should be made please?
Thank you for taking the time to help me.
Cordially,
Gaël.
none of these adds give the price
Check back tomorrow evening, we are posting an in-depth video about cost!
$2k vs $50k
And the way you do this is by CUTTING away the upper and lower natural gum/bone. Please look into three on six.
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Don’t do it!!