Update - As of Sep 2019, I've only pulled up the chevelle (a few times) and a 73 Charger. To my knowledge it still works fine. It's been a while since I used it. Even if it crapped out now, it was worth the $50. Easier than using a come-a-long.
i have an 84 Chevy C30, flatbed, i have that exact winch mounted on top of the headache rack and use that to load my firewood, and ive used that setup for years with no issues
@@jimsmith9819 yeah I haven't used it in a few years. I thought it was dead. Took it apart and the wiring on the back of the power side stud was broken. Just got it back together. Going to start using it again. If I really cared about it, I'd have some enclosure for it. Ppl can crap on HF all day long but most of the stuff I get from there has done exactly what it said.
Hell yeah! I bolted this winch to my garage floor. I pull my car projects back inside the garage with it. I knew when I saw this setup, it would pull this chevelle with no problem. The reason it keeps stopping & starting in your video, is because the wireless remote starts doing that when your out of range. When your no more than 15ft away it stops doing that. I pull my heavy truck in & out of the garage probably 20 times without the battery every starting to drain.
I was letting off the controller. It wasn't the winch doing it. But yeah it entertains me when someone spends $800 on a fancy winch just to pull up a Civic once or twice a year. This is only like $40 more than a come a long and way better. Good to hear that yours has lasted soi long
Hey everyone, I'm debating on making a youtube channel where I test things like this. Video quality would be a lot higher. Maybe testing Harbor freight junk and seeing how much it can do. I'm more of a car guy so the things will be in regards to things like this. Let me know if you would like to see it or not.
Thanks for the video I've been debating on getting this I just need to pull my Nova in the garage I'm gonna mount it to a bracket in the concrete. Looks like I'm going to go get one!
You're welcome. should be fine for that! Mine is junk now but it sits out in the elements so no biggie. Watch out for Black Friday. They may have 3500 or 5k ones for the same price.
Dang I have one sitting on shelf in the garage I bought for my old golf cart and never used, And just had to get a vehicle on my trailer with just a come along took me 90min that would have been nice to know it had that kind of power. Thanks
This does the trick. A snatch block is a great idea. Honestly I'd recommend the 5k for just a little more but this is sure as hell better than nothing.
That winch is crying lol I tried this about 2 years ago. Same winch. Burnt up after a few uses. Returned. I do have the 2500 zxr badlands on my side by side. Works much better on that lol
I actually did this again with the 2500 lb zxr. It works pretty well. I have the 2 year extended warranty on it and it worked WAY better than the regular.
Just some regular bolts I found laying around. Nothing too special. unless you are pulling something that is stuck in the mud, I don't think it'll make too much of a difference. If your trailer has older boards, those would probably start breaking first
I have the same winch my uncle bought me years ago as a gift still in my closet new and unused. I haven’t been sure what to use it for . But lately been thinking of using to make a redneck hunting blind elevator
@@kennethrobinson1672 oh my bad. Thought you were being a smartass. I think they are called a few different things. It's just a pulley that you hook to the cable to give more pulling power.
That winch is straining WAY too hard. First, they need full voltage, not just hooked up to an old battery with jumper cables. Second, you need to make sure the wire rope is wound evenly on the drum (not piled up on one side like this one is). Lastly, if you are going to use an undersized winch, use a snatch block to half the line speed.... I had a guy buy a car from me that had been sitting for 20 years, he had a similar setup..... the winch was stalling out.... I went and got my snatch block and set it up, and surprise surprise, by cutting the line speed in half, it vastly increased the actual speed of the winch (because it was no longer overloaded).
This was just a test to see if it could do it. Don't think too much into it. Obviously it's an undersized winch. Just curious to see if it could do it.
Yeah, I think this winch died a year or 2 ago. I couldn't complain though . Just using it once or twice makes it worth it. Just cheap winches. Sure, I could get a fancy one, but it sat out in the weather. No reason to have a fancy one.
If they rate it CORRECTLY, then it should be able to provide 2500 lbs of force which means that it would lift 2500 lbs vertically... If a car has tires aired up very firmly and is on a level hard surface, it doesn't take many pounds of force to move it... Discounting friction, it's a function of the angle of the incline that you are moving the object up... Take the sine of the angle of the incline (with 90 degrees being vertical and 0 degrees being perfectly horizontal) and you can determine the effective weight you would be pulling against... Let's say that you have a 30 degree incline (which is quite a bit more than he is using here)... The sin(30) is 0.5 and multiplied by 4000 lbs (assumed weight of vehicle), that means that you would need a winch that could pull over 2000 lbs. If you drop the angle down to 15 degrees, you would need 1035 lbs of force. Now, as far as the angle he was pulling, that can be calculated by taking the arcsine(height of the ramp / length of ramp)... Assuming a 6 ft ramp and a height of 1.5 ft, that would work out to be 14.48 degrees... Or you could just calculate it as (1.5 / 6 ) * 4000 = 1000... Of course, flat tires and pulling across turf add quite a bit of friction, but these calculations are simple enough to do that you can use it to see if it is even theoretically possible to use a winch for a particular task in a best case scenario...
Nice experiment. Like to see a closer view of the winch installation. Top and bottom as I’m thinking about installing mine on the floor boards also. New S U B
For the winch, Harbor Freight sells mounts (roughly $5) for this particular winch. IIRC, I bought 2. I drilled the 3 or 4 holes into the trailer. I used longer bolts and had 1 mount between the winch/trailer and 1 mount on the underside of the boards so the pressure would be more even and the bolts wouldn't come through any holes in the wood. So, here's how it is. Winch Mount Boards Mount
@@Theycallmeroe the winch sits on top of a flat Mount plate that you can buy at harbor freight . Then you have the wood deck, then on the bottom where I would tighten the nuts, I put another winch plate and just flipped it the opposite way to spread the pressure of tightening down.
@@Ka_Gg ok cool thank you im going to purchase the double hitch receiver and then just buy a winch hitch. Im using an Tahoe and i dont own a trailer at the moment but appreciate the insight. Iust wanted to see if this could pull my car as well we both have the same chassis i have a 70 olds 442.
I tried installing mine on my trailer with deck nails but it didn’t work and my nephew lost an eye when the winch yanked clear off the deck. I think either use liquid nails glue or maybe screws. My sister still won’t talk to me because my nephew is getting picked on at school due to the accident. Kids can be such little monsters. They call Franky “Rocky The Cyclops” because of his missing eye and slightly dented orbital bone. Anyway, message me if you need any other mechanical advice. I’m still new to using tools but really enjoy noodling with these doodads. Just picked me up one of those oscillating saws. I’m thinking about using it to saw open the top of a propane tank to use as a shop garage trash can. Then I’m going to paint it with flowers and glitter.
Sorry, just saw this. Easy to install. Bought a winch plate for the top and bottom of the wood. Drilled holes, bolted it to the trailer. There are better and several different ways to do it though.
@@Ka_Gg I must have the name of the buyer! That vehicle is a work of art and I must have it. No price is too high. Please help me locate that Picasso in motion. You rock!
No. I like to buy and sell vehicles a lot and I did very well on this car. I got it lot running and driving. I think it had been sitting for 10 or 20 years before I got it. Had about $2400 in the Chevelle... Then traded it for a Harley and $1,500. Then, I traded the Harley for $2,000 and a 6.0 3/4 Chevy truck. I still have the truck and should be able to easily sell it for $3,000. This Chevelle just needed a lot of everything period it would have been cool just to get it driving reliably and drive it as is. the sad thing is that fixing these cars up oftentimes take significantly more than buying one that's already built.
Thanks, I couldn't find a video of what I needed and thought others would benefit from it. So far, I've only pulled up that chevelle and a 73 Charger (complete car) and it did well both times. It doesn't seem to get too hot either. After pulling for 20 seconds or so, I'll stop and let it sit for a few seconds just in case. I can't complain for $50! A lot nicer than using a come a long. If I were to use a winch every day, then I would have a better one. I have no idea how this would do with a car that has locked up brakes or anything. These cars all had air in their tires, but the winch never seemed like it got to a point where it was going to stop or break. So far, I"m surprised.
@@Ka_Gg I had a 1971 and 2 weeks after me and my wife got married someone stole it . I just haven’t had the money to buy another or to buy one to fix up.
The reason I showed this video was not to teach some type of physics. It was just a show people that even with a really small cheap winch, you can pull a car up on a trailer.
Update - As of Sep 2019, I've only pulled up the chevelle (a few times) and a 73 Charger. To my knowledge it still works fine. It's been a while since I used it. Even if it crapped out now, it was worth the $50. Easier than using a come-a-long.
If you use a snatch block to do a double line pull. It's easier on the winch, plus twice the pull power.
Yeah, I have a snatch block. I was just testing the power on it's own.
When I use the snatch I give it double the power...oh yeah!
i have an 84 Chevy C30, flatbed, i have that exact winch mounted on top of the headache rack and use that to load my firewood, and ive used that setup for years with no issues
@@jimsmith9819 yeah I haven't used it in a few years. I thought it was dead. Took it apart and the wiring on the back of the power side stud was broken. Just got it back together. Going to start using it again.
If I really cared about it, I'd have some enclosure for it.
Ppl can crap on HF all day long but most of the stuff I get from there has done exactly what it said.
Hell yeah! I bolted this winch to my garage floor. I pull my car projects back inside the garage with it. I knew when I saw this setup, it would pull this chevelle with no problem. The reason it keeps stopping & starting in your video, is because the wireless remote starts doing that when your out of range. When your no more than 15ft away it stops doing that. I pull my heavy truck in & out of the garage probably 20 times without the battery every starting to drain.
I was letting off the controller. It wasn't the winch doing it.
But yeah it entertains me when someone spends $800 on a fancy winch just to pull up a Civic once or twice a year. This is only like $40 more than a come a long and way better.
Good to hear that yours has lasted soi long
I bolted mine to my garage floor last week and pulled my 78 f250 up a slope and over the 4 inch lip with no problem.
Hey everyone, I'm debating on making a youtube channel where I test things like this. Video quality would be a lot higher. Maybe testing Harbor freight junk and seeing how much it can do. I'm more of a car guy so the things will be in regards to things like this. Let me know if you would like to see it or not.
Thanks for the video I've been debating on getting this I just need to pull my Nova in the garage I'm gonna mount it to a bracket in the concrete. Looks like I'm going to go get one!
You're welcome. should be fine for that! Mine is junk now but it sits out in the elements so no biggie.
Watch out for Black Friday. They may have 3500 or 5k ones for the same price.
Dang I have one sitting on shelf in the garage I bought for my old golf cart and never used, And just had to get a vehicle on my trailer with just a come along took me 90min that would have been nice to know it had that kind of power. Thanks
How much u want for the chevelle?Very nice project
long gone.
Wow
I'm definitely going to have to get one for my truck. Good video bro
This does the trick. A snatch block is a great idea.
Honestly I'd recommend the 5k for just a little more but this is sure as hell better than nothing.
I'm building a gin pole for my truck and using a 9000lb as main winch and one of these to do adjustments on my poles.
I use the champion 3000 lb winch for 4 years pulling cars on trailers with flat tires and all then sold it for the same amount I paid for it.
Hell yeah! Way better than a come along
That winch is crying lol I tried this about 2 years ago. Same winch. Burnt up after a few uses. Returned. I do have the 2500 zxr badlands on my side by side. Works much better on that lol
Oh yeah this is way too much for what it should be used for.
I actually did this again with the 2500 lb zxr. It works pretty well. I have the 2 year extended warranty on it and it worked WAY better than the regular.
This is exactly what I'm going to try to do. What kind of bolts did you use?
Just some regular bolts I found laying around. Nothing too special. unless you are pulling something that is stuck in the mud, I don't think it'll make too much of a difference. If your trailer has older boards, those would probably start breaking first
I have the same winch my uncle bought me years ago as a gift still in my closet new and unused. I haven’t been sure what to use it for . But lately been thinking of using to make a redneck hunting blind elevator
i have a 9,000 lb traveller winch on my car trailer i have pulled a one ton on my trailer that had a locked up rear end with no problems
What is a snatch block
@@kennethrobinson1672 that wouldn't test the winch on its own.
@@Ka_Gg not being funny ,I never heard of a snatch block ,I'm kinda new to winches
@@kennethrobinson1672 oh my bad. Thought you were being a smartass.
I think they are called a few different things. It's just a pulley that you hook to the cable to give more pulling power.
That winch is straining WAY too hard. First, they need full voltage, not just hooked up to an old battery with jumper cables. Second, you need to make sure the wire rope is wound evenly on the drum (not piled up on one side like this one is). Lastly, if you are going to use an undersized winch, use a snatch block to half the line speed.... I had a guy buy a car from me that had been sitting for 20 years, he had a similar setup..... the winch was stalling out.... I went and got my snatch block and set it up, and surprise surprise, by cutting the line speed in half, it vastly increased the actual speed of the winch (because it was no longer overloaded).
This was just a test to see if it could do it. Don't think too much into it. Obviously it's an undersized winch. Just curious to see if it could do it.
Impressive. Slightly flat tire on one side, muddy, and sort of a heavy car. How heavy do you think this car weighs?
i think around 3400lbs
should have used winch without chain less wire on drum gives more power in pull
Yes, you are correct. Just wanted to test it out. Surprised it did this.
I have 3 of them and one will not work anymore or even try to work but they are strong for what they are
Yeah, I think this winch died a year or 2 ago. I couldn't complain though . Just using it once or twice makes it worth it. Just cheap winches. Sure, I could get a fancy one, but it sat out in the weather. No reason to have a fancy one.
impressed thats it 2500 lb and it pulled it on no problem.
Yeah it was definitely worth the money!
If they rate it CORRECTLY, then it should be able to provide 2500 lbs of force which means that it would lift 2500 lbs vertically... If a car has tires aired up very firmly and is on a level hard surface, it doesn't take many pounds of force to move it... Discounting friction, it's a function of the angle of the incline that you are moving the object up... Take the sine of the angle of the incline (with 90 degrees being vertical and 0 degrees being perfectly horizontal) and you can determine the effective weight you would be pulling against... Let's say that you have a 30 degree incline (which is quite a bit more than he is using here)... The sin(30) is 0.5 and multiplied by 4000 lbs (assumed weight of vehicle), that means that you would need a winch that could pull over 2000 lbs. If you drop the angle down to 15 degrees, you would need 1035 lbs of force.
Now, as far as the angle he was pulling, that can be calculated by taking the arcsine(height of the ramp / length of ramp)... Assuming a 6 ft ramp and a height of 1.5 ft, that would work out to be 14.48 degrees... Or you could just calculate it as (1.5 / 6 ) * 4000 = 1000...
Of course, flat tires and pulling across turf add quite a bit of friction, but these calculations are simple enough to do that you can use it to see if it is even theoretically possible to use a winch for a particular task in a best case scenario...
I like that Chevelle man cool vid
Thanks, it's gone though. Hopefully I can get my 69 going
Nice experiment. Like to see a closer view of the winch installation. Top and bottom as I’m thinking about installing mine on the floor boards also. New S U B
For the winch, Harbor Freight sells mounts (roughly $5) for this particular winch. IIRC, I bought 2.
I drilled the 3 or 4 holes into the trailer. I used longer bolts and had 1 mount between the winch/trailer and 1 mount on the underside of the boards so the pressure would be more even and the bolts wouldn't come through any holes in the wood.
So, here's how it is.
Winch
Mount
Boards
Mount
@@Ka_Gg did you just mount to your trailer and then bolt the winch to that?
@@Theycallmeroe the winch sits on top of a flat Mount plate that you can buy at harbor freight . Then you have the wood deck, then on the bottom where I would tighten the nuts, I put another winch plate and just flipped it the opposite way to spread the pressure of tightening down.
@@Ka_Gg ok cool thank you im going to purchase the double hitch receiver and then just buy a winch hitch. Im using an Tahoe and i dont own a trailer at the moment but appreciate the insight. Iust wanted to see if this could pull my car as well we both have the same chassis i have a 70 olds 442.
I tried installing mine on my trailer with deck nails but it didn’t work and my nephew lost an eye when the winch yanked clear off the deck. I think either use liquid nails glue or maybe screws. My sister still won’t talk to me because my nephew is getting picked on at school due to the accident. Kids can be such little monsters. They call Franky “Rocky The Cyclops” because of his missing eye and slightly dented orbital bone. Anyway, message me if you need any other mechanical advice. I’m still new to using tools but really enjoy noodling with these doodads. Just picked me up one of those oscillating saws. I’m thinking about using it to saw open the top of a propane tank to use as a shop garage trash can. Then I’m going to paint it with flowers and glitter.
What kind of battery are you using? I’m getting the same winch.
Just a basic car battery
Was it hard to installed
Sorry, just saw this. Easy to install. Bought a winch plate for the top and bottom of the wood. Drilled holes, bolted it to the trailer. There are better and several different ways to do it though.
Good video with the flat tire. It'll do !
What size trailer?
16 foot
That car is fvcking GORGEOUS! How much?
Long gone
@@Ka_Gg I must have the name of the buyer! That vehicle is a work of art and I must have it. No price is too high. Please help me locate that Picasso in motion. You rock!
@@originalfallinggirl I don't have that information anymore unfortunately. It was a cool car, but definitely needed a lot of work.
@@originalfallinggirl Keep looking on marketplace. you'll find one.
@@Ka_Gg you rule! 🙏🏻❤️
btw did u finish ur Malibu?
No. I like to buy and sell vehicles a lot and I did very well on this car. I got it lot running and driving. I think it had been sitting for 10 or 20 years before I got it.
Had about $2400 in the Chevelle... Then traded it for a Harley and $1,500. Then, I traded the Harley for $2,000 and a 6.0 3/4 Chevy truck. I still have the truck and should be able to easily sell it for $3,000.
This Chevelle just needed a lot of everything period it would have been cool just to get it driving reliably and drive it as is. the sad thing is that fixing these cars up oftentimes take significantly more than buying one that's already built.
You should have a badland zxr 5000 pound winch pulling that old car on your car trailer instead of a badland 2500 pound winch
Heck, I'd rather have a 12k winch. It was just what I had laying around.
Is the chevelle for sale
Gone.
Nice video I just bought the same winch for my trailer too how its yours holding? I seen some very bad reviews for this...
Thanks, I couldn't find a video of what I needed and thought others would benefit from it. So far, I've only pulled up that chevelle and a 73 Charger (complete car) and it did well both times. It doesn't seem to get too hot either. After pulling for 20 seconds or so, I'll stop and let it sit for a few seconds just in case. I can't complain for $50! A lot nicer than using a come a long.
If I were to use a winch every day, then I would have a better one. I have no idea how this would do with a car that has locked up brakes or anything. These cars all had air in their tires, but the winch never seemed like it got to a point where it was going to stop or break. So far, I"m surprised.
I’ll be honest I was more interested in the car lol.
Ha! I don't blame you! Id really like a 66
@@Ka_Gg I had a 1971 and 2 weeks after me and my wife got married someone stole it . I just haven’t had the money to buy another or to buy one to fix up.
@@Ka_Gg here is the winch I installed ruclips.net/video/OH3_VauCx3k/видео.html
Nice
Definitely looks like a Malibu… 🙄
Did I say something weird in the video? If so, I probably just misspoke because I had several cars at the time
You must have been sleeping in High School physics class. The Winch is claimed to lift the complete car not pull a much lesser amount onto a trailer.
The reason I showed this video was not to teach some type of physics. It was just a show people that even with a really small cheap winch, you can pull a car up on a trailer.
No need to capitalize winch. Were you stoned during English class?
@ James McKay No, these winches are rated for pull they are not rated for lifting .You must have missed school completely.
Nice