Michael; I have actually used Polytak QRT bought from hortulanus aeroparts dot c o m for the complicated shapes (let say 10% of the whole model) - just to keep ceconite on the construction quickly and firmly. The quarter dosage was sufficient for the whole model. For the rest of the model I simply used nitro paint to stick Ceconite to the construction. If you are patient you can use nitro pant to stick Ceconite on the wole model. It;s slightly more difficut but possible.
Many thanks for the reply, I'm going to give Ceconite a try on my next build. I will look forward to your web site of the Decathlon, a picture is worth a thousand words. Please let me know when it's up and running.
Yes, I have used the uncertified light 1.87 Ceconite. Than the edges on the fuselage has been covered by the 1 inch "ports" (stripes) that are actually made from the heaviest Ceconite. The model will be finished very soon. It's going to have it's own web pages with thousands of photos from the build on it. I'll announce it here when ready,
The nitro paint was simple paint bought at a regular shop, no shrinking, nothing special. Ceconite was already shrinked by the hot iron before painting. You can actually shrink Ceconite even after being painted by Nitro, or even after being painted by color paint :-). So the order of painting was: 1, nitro paint (couple of times), 2, body filler 3+1, 3, colour painting (car colours at a local car painting company).
The answer is below in the old comments, copy is here: "...I have actually used Polytak QRT bought from hortulanus aeroparts dot c o m for the complicated shapes (let say 10% of the whole model) - just to keep ceconite on the construction quickly and firmly. The quarter dosage was sufficient for the whole model. For the rest of the model I simply used nitro paint to stick Ceconite to the construction. If you are patient you can use nitro pant to stick Ceconite on the wole model. It;s slightly more difficut but possible..."
I forgot to ask was that light weight 1.87oz ceconite fabric you used? Sorry for all the questions but it the only way to get first hand information. And I would love to see your completed model.Is it on RCUniverse or any other forum?
with all the systems and fabric available my method of choice is determined by ,, getting samples of the material and do your own destructive testing eg grab a bit each end try to rip it ,and scizzor test and machine tortion test tie a piece to a jack sidways and measure how much force needed for the fabric to give way .or a million other ways you could use especially where their PDS are hard to get with technical data.anyway i will do this when refabricating my a/c regardless of what the makers say.
Ótimo, muitas das vezes ten-se que fazer uma modelação na mão e tem que ser artista na madeira para fazer.Muito genioso essa maneira de modelagem! Mande as técnicas pra mim e aproveitar a ideia sou projetista de aeromodelos escala.Obrigado
Hi Great video, I have been thinking about using Ceconite myself on my next build 1/4 scale PA11 and have one or two question if you can please answer. Do you use Dope to stick the Ceconite to the model or something like Balsarite or Balsaloc. You also said you used nitro cellulose paint to fill in the weave was that Nitrate clear dope and was it shrinking or non-shrinking? Anyway just watched your other videos and look forward to seeing more of your Bellanca Decathlon.
I use Balsarite or Sig Stix it for typical RC model adhesion, but it only needs to be where you want it to stick. Perimeter and tops of ribs etc. I love to seal my Ceconite covering with dope. This will wick through and really stick it down. Plus you can feather sand your seams for a great finished look.
The fabric itself is not expensive, especially if you use the lightest uncertified fabric. Just search web using "ceconite price" keywords and you will see that the cost is approx 9 USD per yard (72" wide) at aircraftsprucedotcom. It becomes more expensive when using special adhesive and prime coating and painting etc. Nevertheless, depending on the usage you can use cheap alternatives.
Is this type of fabric very cheap to work with? I am looking for a strong material like this but as cheap as I can find for a non aircraft project. Very cool video!
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What a beautiful material. Good Job man. Thanks for sharing it👍👍
Michael;
I have actually used Polytak QRT bought from hortulanus aeroparts dot c o m for the complicated shapes (let say 10% of the whole model) - just to keep ceconite on the construction quickly and firmly. The quarter dosage was sufficient for the whole model. For the rest of the model I simply used nitro paint to stick Ceconite to the construction. If you are patient you can use nitro pant to stick Ceconite on the wole model. It;s slightly more difficut but possible.
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Many thanks for the reply, I'm going to give Ceconite a try on my next build. I will look forward to your web site of the Decathlon, a picture is worth a thousand words. Please let me know when it's up and running.
Thanks so much for the great info. This could be exactly what I need. I thought it would be super expensive for some reason.
Yes, I have used the uncertified light 1.87 Ceconite. Than the edges on the fuselage has been covered by the 1 inch "ports" (stripes) that are actually made from the heaviest Ceconite. The model will be finished very soon. It's going to have it's own web pages with thousands of photos from the build on it. I'll announce it here when ready,
Como se llama el material... Y donde lo consigo. Gracias.
Might be a stupid idea, but can you reinforce this with fibreglass? It would be great to have an airframe without the labourus mold building process
The nitro paint was simple paint bought at a regular shop, no shrinking, nothing special. Ceconite was already shrinked by the hot iron before painting. You can actually shrink Ceconite even after being painted by Nitro, or even after being painted by color paint :-). So the order of painting was: 1, nitro paint (couple of times), 2, body filler 3+1, 3, colour painting (car colours at a local car painting company).
What did you use to attach the ceconite fabric onto the fuselage ? Stix-It ? Dope ?
The answer is below in the old comments, copy is here: "...I have actually used Polytak QRT bought from hortulanus aeroparts dot c o m for the complicated shapes (let say 10% of the whole model) - just to keep ceconite on the construction quickly and firmly. The quarter dosage was sufficient for the whole model. For the rest of the model I simply used nitro paint to stick Ceconite to the construction. If you are patient you can use nitro pant to stick Ceconite on the wole model. It;s slightly more difficut but possible..."
I forgot to ask was that light weight 1.87oz ceconite fabric you used?
Sorry for all the questions but it the only way to get first hand information.
And I would love to see your completed model.Is it on RCUniverse or any other forum?
what type of ceconite did you use for this plane the 101 ore 102
Nice Work , is it safer than Fabric ??
You’re not supposed to use a heat gun. 250 degrees with an iron
Yea...I noticed that. Big NO NO!!
with all the systems and fabric available my method of choice is determined by ,, getting samples of the material and do your own destructive testing eg grab a bit each end try to rip it ,and scizzor test and machine tortion test tie a piece to a jack sidways and measure how much force needed for the fabric to give way .or a million other ways you could use especially where their PDS are hard to get with technical data.anyway i will do this when refabricating my a/c regardless of what the makers say.
I’m surprised he got that one big crease out.
Qui material é esse que está sendo revestido?Obrigado
Ceconite
Ótimo, muitas das vezes ten-se que fazer uma modelação na mão e tem que ser artista na madeira para fazer.Muito genioso essa maneira de modelagem! Mande as técnicas pra mim e aproveitar a ideia sou projetista de aeromodelos escala.Obrigado
Fantastic!
Hi Great video, I have been thinking about using Ceconite myself on my next build 1/4 scale PA11 and have one or two question if you can please answer.
Do you use Dope to stick the Ceconite to the model or something like Balsarite or Balsaloc. You also said you used nitro cellulose paint to fill in the weave was that Nitrate clear dope and was it shrinking or non-shrinking?
Anyway just watched your other videos and look forward to seeing more of your Bellanca Decathlon.
I use Balsarite or Sig Stix it for typical RC model adhesion, but it only needs to be where you want it to stick. Perimeter and tops of ribs etc. I love to seal my Ceconite covering with dope. This will wick through and really stick it down. Plus you can feather sand your seams for a great finished look.
The fabric itself is not expensive, especially if you use the lightest uncertified fabric. Just search web using "ceconite price" keywords and you will see that the cost is approx 9 USD per yard (72" wide) at aircraftsprucedotcom. It becomes more expensive when using special adhesive and prime coating and painting etc. Nevertheless, depending on the usage you can use cheap alternatives.
Is this type of fabric very cheap to work with? I am looking for a strong material like this but as cheap as I can find for a non aircraft project. Very cool video!
I would give Ripstop fabric a try. This can be be heat shrunk.
It's better to use an iron. The heat gun can burn the fibers.