How to install diagonal Herringbone wood look plank porcelain on Ditra with T-Lock™
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How to install diagonal Herringbone wood look plank porcelain tile floor on Schluter Ditra using T-Lock™lippage system. This plank tile was installed on a diagonal on a herringbone pattern. Plank tiles are considered large format tiles, these tiles were 6”x24” and are made to look like wood. Schluter Ditra was used as an underlayment over a plywood sub floor. T-Lock™ was used to help install a lippage free floor, a leveling system can be very helpful with large format tiles to achieve a better finish. Some of the base board had been installed before the tile, however it is best to install the base after the tile to allow for expansion at the perimeter. A color matching chalk was used were the tile meet the base to allow for a soft joint.
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Thank you for all your videos! I'm about to start my first ever tiling project and I'm dead-set on herringbone pattern wood look tile. Thanks to you I've ordered ditra, T-lock, and high-quality thinset to get me started right. :) I also have a good rubric on what *not* to do by viewing that marble disaster video you have.
Makes me appreciate the added length of time doing a larger space, judging that this space was pretty much hallway and the odd small room. Mighty slick visuals the herringbone gives off. Sal your presentations are great.
Thanks
Amazing. I WAS headed to the garage to mix my first batch of mortar for my first ever tile job but you convinced me to dry lay all my tile out first. Probably saved me a ton of pain, so thank you.
Probably don't need to do them all like that, but very often a good idea to dry lay to get started and for the more difficult cuts, especially when installing on a diagonal.
@@SalDiBlasi - What size trowel did you use?
Here's a tip for ya Sal instead of the big grout sponge you're using to clean up tiles as you're setting tile cut the sponge in half on your wet saw. Using a half sponge works great cause you can ring it out with one hand and the hard edge works great at getting thinset out of the joints. I also keep a half sponge handy when grouting cause it's great for detail work.
Done that, I also use a grout brush for tight areas.
I can't thank you enough for introducing to us T-lock. We did herringbone pattern, with probably the same tile as you used in this video :) on our kitchen floor and hallway. With the help of T-locks everything turned out beautiful! Definitely money worth to the last penny!
This might interest you for next time. ruclips.net/video/3jTtt5czjYA/видео.html
How could people dislike this video?? It was so helpful to watch before I tackle this myself. Thank you for posting!! Great job!!
Hi Sal.
Can you do a video on how to mark the cuts for the herringbone pattern?
thanks
Sal, thank you for sharing your experience...your awesome
Herring bone in the worst possible layout, scribe along baseboard and not one curse word...your the man :)
+thundernut6 Not out load anyway.
You are so talented 💖 probably why its hard to find someone like you youre in demand.but you've helped me do it myself with all your tips doing an oven wall tile in herringbone travertine.thank you for your help
Thanks, glad it helped
That was pretty cool as always. I'm glad there are pros like you. I don't have the patience.
The one step I missed the last time I laid tiles was knocking down the excess in the joints second time I have seen this from a pro will be using that great little tip on the tile job I have coming up in my home.
thanks
This example is pure pro! Thanks for putting on the tube for us all to see
Looks spectacular Sal. A ton of cutting though. Great work as usual. I have a request: You have excellent videos on choosing trowels and thinset. Is there any chance you might make a video (in similar fashion) on tile properties, including materials, hardness, edge types and formats and how these relate to tile selection for a project (and cost)? I would find that enormously useful. I was in the store yesterday and overheard a woman demanding a certain tile be used while the guy she was with was trying to explain to her why it wouldn't be a suitable candidate for her budget. She didn't want to hear it!
Hey sal . I'm interested in tilling and there is a Turkish guy that is good as you and is willing to teach me .. hands on experience
Get a TCNA Handbook, attend manufacturer training and work for you Turkish guy. Also ask him to see his TCNA handbook, if he does not have one, then maybe he doesn't do everything exactly as they should be, not saying that is the case, but it will tell you a lot.
I live in Alabama. Wish we had professionals that cared about their workmanship like you do. Everybody does a crappy job on everything here.
Its usually because people think this guy should still charge the same as "crappy guy".
Great video, trying to learn from your content. I'm about to do a harringbone tile job in a 13' x 17' room. If starting in the middle, what's the best way tho proceed? Vertically to the edges? Horizontally? Maybe form a cross then fill in?
Mr. Sal you do such a beautiful job. I wish your business was in NYC.
+Marajustright There are good installers there as well, just have to find them.
You amaze me Sal! I am laying a herringbone pattern on Ditra with a soldier course around all sides of rectangle hall. Can you recommend a good unmodified thinset for laying my handmade clay brick kiln fired 3.5 x 8.75 bricks? 1/2 thick thin brick tiles with a 3/8 grout joint. Unsure if I will do lime mortar or sanded grout...any recommendation for that too?
You're a true master Sal.
As always very helpful video. The manufacturer of the Non-Rectified 4 x 24 wood plank is similar to the one used in this video. The manufacturer suggests 1/8 spacing. I am planning on using the 1/16 T-Lock leveling system. Just curious if you prefer a larger or smaller grout line for this pattern.
1/8" might be a better idea.
Thanks for posting this one Sal. Looks like I may be doing one of these patterns for the first time in January.
How did yours turn out?
The owner should had the baseboard removed prior to the tile installation....so I totally agree with you, the tile should float right under the baseboard.
Nice work, sir.
plan to do the same for my master bath walls using the same size tile - cherry wood look
Hi Sal. Great work. If possible, can you please provide additional information regarding this porcelain tile you used for this project. I really like the color.
Sorry, home owner provided the tile, I have no clue where it came from or what it was.
Thanks, Sal.
Anthony Alfuente .
Great video! I'm looking at installing a herringbone pattern with textured wood like porcelain tiles. Do you have any tips on how to prevent the grout from sticking to the top of the tile when cleaning? I've run into this problem in the past and now try to avoid textured tiles however the tiles I found are perfect for this pattern. Any tips you can provide would be appreciated!
sunshine77789 grout release or don't wait as long to get a sponge on it.
That's a lot of work and cuts!! Nice job
What size notched trowel would you recommend on these size tile.
I love this artistic job... You're amazing!! Thank you very much for sharing, I'm learning with you.
Great videos! Do you have a video of herringbone pattern around a toilet flange?
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Thanks!! Your videos are making 4x12 slate herringbone on bathroom floor / concrete slab doable! Thank you.
Looks awesome!!! Could you speak to how much mortar you back butter a tile with and is the back butter evenly applied across the back or do you put a taper of the back butter as it approaches the edge of the tile? Thanks again!
+T Willey Just flat trowel to burn in the thinset, it is usually just a skim coat, no buildup.
Hi. Would you tell me how much is hand work of this job with out materials? Thanks
Good work! Looks very symmetrical. Thanks for sharing.👍
Sal - For your installation on this video you screwed wood blocks to the floor to push the tile against as a guide. Do you have tips or suggestions for installing some kind of guide on a concrete slab? Thanks!
On concrete, best to just syick to your guide lines and keep an eye on your lines as you go along.
same deal. drill a 3/16" hole with decent masonry bit (i recommend Bosch, Hilti, etc), right through the wood block and the concrete floor. if you have the depth, going 2 - 2 1/2" is more than enough. slip a piece of 14gauge solid core electrical wire down the hole. it has to be solid core (one piece of copper, not a bunch of strands), and it has to be one the plastic covered ones, not the bare ground wire. if the electrician has been around, there will be offcuts of this all over the place. else pick up a little roll from the store. now stick a basic #8 decking screw of some kind in there. i usually use the 2 - 2 1/2" gold deck screws, but anything with nice heavy threads works really good. the more depth you can get in the concrete, the better. it will tighten in just like it was in wood. if it snaps, your screw was too long/hole too shallow. no harm in going deeper than needed. it will remove just as easy. dirt simple, fast cheap concrete anchor.
That's crazy Sal. What size spacers/clips did you use? That is the hardest tile layout you can possibly do. Very nice job.
+Gennady Bekkelman 1/8"
Love your video's Sal, You do great work. I've got a question regarding 3x6 ceramic tiles in a herringbone pattern on a shower wall. If you start on the back wall right in the center, when you get to the side walls will the cuts be the same on the left and right sides. I never did a herringbone pattern. Your answer would be greatly appreciated.
Just wondering why you don’t use a level while laying tile how do you know your staying level throughout the room and not having dips in the floor ? Or do you just follow the floor even if it’s not level
a standard imstallation does not required to level every piece. we just go with the floor ..if the home owner want every piece to be level it higher the price installation bout 2-4 more dollars ..
Hello Sal, doing a pattern like this in my house. Purchased a 6x36 looks to be rectified tile, do you recommend an 1/8 grout line?
Hard to say, but if it is rectified 1/8 should work.
question : if installation of "regular" lay out its lets say 5 dollars how much should i charge for install this kind of lay out? thanks
First don't charge by the square foot, second get paid what you are worth.
@@SalDiBlasi thanks for replying..here in utah normally we go by sf.i was wondering how much more charge because this takes more time ..thanks so much! you help me alot with this video.i use your video as a guide and turn out amazing home owner are super happy..
@@mochissin84m84 Best to ditch the square foot thing, products and systems have changed. You might benefit from listening to Luke miller's podcast Tile Money, ruclips.net/channel/UCQtxybRS-B-0IMqgWSn1_VA
Are those NAILS in the pieces of wood by your knees??
super boulot. en plus super produit de mise en oeuvre! salutations
Eric Le Carreleur tu peux nous faire un tuto pour ce type de pose avec des lames pvc? 😁 un fidèle abonné de ta chaîne ..
hi Sal... very good job as always...what i want to ask is how long did it take you to prepare all the cuts before starting to lay down the tiles????....P.S. i also numerate the pieces the way you do.....
+Ilirjan Dalipi Longer than o would have liked.
I learned a lot. Thanks for another great Video Sal.
Should I go for it ?
Absolutely beautiful!
Thank you so much!
More than perfect . I wish you all the best
Can you score and snap these on your montolit snapper Sal? Great floor!
you are the best mr sal . thank you very much for yur amazing videos
hi sal how long did it take you to do this job just to tile not ditra.
That is an amazing looking house.
Sal I love your videos but how come I never see you leaving room for expansion gaps?
Look closer. I always leave room for movement.
@@SalDiBlasi Thanks Sal! I just watch you lay down tile and see what looks to be tile flush with walls and tubs.
Very good work. I wish you were my dad
how did you determine where to put the boards?
Love your videos! Thanks for doing awesome work and sharing your knowledge!
Theres something oddly satisfying about watching these videos.
Yes waste 9f time for ugly pattern taking
Ages to finish
I've been laying tile for 33 years and whilst it may be satisfying watching these videos, there's nothing satisfying about laying herringbone!
Wow great video. Do you remember how long that took you? That was alot of cutting!
Do you use rapid set or slow setting thinset on the floor Sal? Cheers Matt
Regular
Quality work as usual Sal. The lippage system you use, are the wedges just hand tight or do you tighten mechanically?
+Fireman Paul Usually jut hand tightened, but you can use the pliers if you like.
Hi Sr.
I have a question about installing tile, when using diagonal tile layout used more tile or is the same amount in a regular layout?
For diagonal I figure 15% over what the actual area to tile is to be sure to have enough, however sometimes, depending on the layout and whether the cut offs can be used, you will often use less tile that planned for. So the answer is to have more than you need but be prepared to have more left over than you thought.
great job! lot of work in that hallway. cut after cut after cut! Trust me i know.
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Beautiful job!
How long has the T lock type leveling system been out ? The tile store near me never heard of it big place with many stores also got a quote from a tiler and he never heard of it . Thanks Sal
+Jr JMc Just added a link in the description where you can buy it and get a 5% discount.
Great job well done
Thank you!
Wow! That looks amazing!
Why the ditra membrane if you aren't doing heated floor? Or are you laying on top of wood subfloor?
Sub floor is plywood, but ditra also works well for concrete. Ditra Heat is a different Schluter Product for heated floor.
Oh alright. Good to know. If you're laying directly to concrete what is the benefit to using the ditra?
Absolutely beautiful
Looks beautiful!
You are a bad man. 🇺🇲👌
Any tips on removing dried thinset off the tile surface.
Yes, if it is a porcelain tile, and not a natural stone, you can first try white vinegar, if that does not work, try CLR, if that does not work try Sulfamic Acid amzn.to/2Sk6pFQ
Be certain to test in an inconspicuous area before doing the whole surface. If it is a natural stone, then your task is much more difficult, Harsh chemicals will probably damage the stone surface.
They are ceramic wood plank. Would those options still work?
@@apike3590 Like I said, try in a small spot first.
Cool. Thanks sal
What thinset you using? Does not look like ditra-set.
+thefullmonte2003 It is not Ditraset, it is Tec Uncoupling membrane mortar, which is a premium unmodified thinset that i actually like better.
great vid. where did you get that laser?
Sorry to keep bugging you today sal, bit do you have a useful trick to cutting around corners when doing a herring bone pattern like this?
That looks so good!
Great job
As always... great work!!!
You oughta try a Barwalt Grouting System, saves you a lot of time.
I have a Rubi grouting system waiting for me to try.
I have a Rubi grouting system waiting for me to try.
great job sal
what is a fair price per square foot to install 36x6 wood plank ceramic tiles?
+Marc Favell Different depending on location, and most jobs these days are quoted by the job not by the square foot.
very good job mate
Hope they got a discount
Sal the course you refer too. Is there one near Lancaster Pa?
Here is a link to the NTCA workshops for the rest of the year, it will be updated next year with more, tile-assn.site-ym.com/events/event_list.asp?show=&group=&start=11%2F4%2F2014&end=&view=&cid=12716&DGPCrSrt=&DGPCrPg=1 and you can visit the manufacturers website, like Schluter and Laticrete to find what they have.
What size spacers are you using?
1/8"
thank you
Do u charge more for this design?
+PLATINUM IN PICTURES I would be a fool not to.
Is this your second time to do herringbone pattern coz I see amateur at work.
Look Harder.
they wouldnt let you use a jam saw?
jamb* also does it matter u penetrated the kerdi with the nails?
Its not meant to be waterproof on this application.
Great Until You Kneel On One Of Those Nails And How Often Are You Left With Little White Pieces Of Plastic Coming Through The Joints
If you don't like them, or know how to use them, then don't, your choice. A tool is just that, use it where it makes sense, and don't where it isn't needed. Don't bash what you don't understand, or don't like.
I can barely hear you and my volume is all the way up. I don't know if it's my computer or the video.
Definitely the computer.😜
good job
what size spacers??
1/8"
You sound like a Red Sox fan so I know you’re not near me. But I could’ve used a tile pro like you. I got shoe makers working in my bathroom.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of hacks out there, but also a lot of great installers.
I think it's just as much a case of not giving a damn as it is not knowing the job. They don't know all the little details that matter and they don't care either. More times than not the "tile guy" is hired by the GC and doesn't even know the specifics of what was previously discussed. Then even the "tile guy" doesn't stick around. He leaves his worker to do the actual job.
hi Sal awesome work as usual! if you dont mind me asking what are you charging in your area for herringbone layout? im in the chicago area
Sorry, I never discuss price or time on an open forum.
where r u from Mr. Sal.
+amritpal narwal Boston North Shore.
where u from man
Boston area
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sal you like steve jobs in tile work )
+Maestro Poganini not quite, but thanks.
+Maestro Poganini not quite, but thanks.
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saludo me gutaria apreder
No acabo de entender el porque perdeis tanto tiempo en dar con la llana tantisimas veces
You can learn more about it on woodprix website I think.
lipage system pulls them off the glue
You have it backwards.
if 3 tiles are higher than 1 in a square of 4, that 1 tile that is lower is pulled up to the same height, correct?
That is a common misconception. Leveling systems are for tuning small differences in tile height difference, not to level a floor that is out of wack.
oh okay, thanks mate :)
Haven't seen you do a video on self leveling a floor?.. don't need to learn how as I do it all the time.. just be interesting to see you do this part of the job. Or are all the subfloors super flat in the good old u s and a😎