Counter Protest Leads To Shooting: Was It Justified?
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The cameraman was also charged with filming this vertically
💯 agree.
Absolutely right on point, vertical angles dont help me see sht, ugh
Haha, funny! Add to the charges: he called it "film."
And also being an insufferable asshole like the rest of this mob
A capitol offense to be certain.
Don't let politics ruin your life
this is a good lesson for everyone these days
People are brainwashed on both sides,they would die for someone who don’t give 2 fuqs about them
@@Elcatrachofeo757 Stop trying to both sides it. He's talking about the MAGA cult
Politics is worth your life when the government is taxing you from every which angle.
@@marcusgarvey5876Psssst. You're who everyone is talking about. Too blind to see your own hate cult...Staaap before it's too late. It doesn't matter how much you hate such random orange you don't know.
The camera man is the last person i would want around me if i was injured lol
Literally thought the same thing when I saw the clip. This dude gives ABSOLUTELY no fucks about what's going on around him. Doesn't even TRY to help the dude who got shot and also seems to be talking shit about the police too. lol what a useless idiot.
Absolutely 100% accurate! If you carry...you MUST practice self control, de-escalation, escape and evasion tactics FIRST...if at all possible!
It’s unfortunate that the people who are adamant on the 2nd amendment and have weapons are the most stupidest to have them.
Yeah just because someone grabs u or even 4 people do. Doesn't mean u can murder everyone at the scene 😅
@@wid411 he fired one round after being jumped lol
The guy chasing after the guy with a gun that just shot somebody, that dude is special
If he actually pay attention the guy runs to his truck to drive after him that was the reason why the other guy with the gun was caught
Bro missed the point😂😂
Agreed! That guy even used a tree and a truck as cover in case the guy with the gun shot again at his pursuers. Get that guy on the podcast. It's almost special pants worthy being a citizen and all. I'm also assuming the white Tesla Model 3 chased the shooter too.
@@LetsTalkShop no. The guy driving the Tesla was the one shooting the truck was chasing after him
Or he is an absolute Chad
Dude was more interested in telling random unaffiliated people they were guilty than helping the guy that was shot.
Shows his motivations. Not what is best for humanity (which at this moment would be saving the guys life), but hatred for the other side.
The camera man is such a trash person
What if he has zero first aid skills? Could be more of a hindrance than a help
@@LaCheeserielol, youre still choosing to ignore the fact that he was insulting and taking out his anger on people who had absolutely nothing to do with the sh00ting, simply because they were part of the "other side". He's a vile human being as well.
@@LaCheeserie You don't have to have first aid skills to help someone who's injured. You can help them by simply see if the injured needs any thing at the moment, like a piece of cloth to cover that persons bleeding, call the medics, offer them some place to rest until the medics arrive, offer them some water, if there are children present, calm them down, there are so many things you can do instead of recording and blaming others.
This would have been a great time to use OC spray to break contact rather than a gun. When you only carry one tool, you start thinking every problem is solved by that tool.
I think he was inexperienced dealing with the stress, which is always the danger with weapons. More training would have prevented this from happening
Or conservatives can hit the gym and learn how to fight. It’s very common that our youth is inactive
I disagree, nobody could see what was going on at the time he drew his weapon, Did they pick up a rock? etc, etc, This is the very same reason law enforcement goes with their firearm before their non lethal when not knowing what threat a person may or may not be. This crowd was on him way before he decided to stop the threat to his life.
@@kenkarr9928we do know the fight was broken up he got to a safe distance before turning around and shooting regardless of how u feel politically this wasn’t self defense and pepper spray would 100% have been a better option then a bullet an even better option is swallowing ur pride and not going to jail
@@Nobody-xl9wm Actually you don't know! Unless! You Can link the video you have that we do not have? There is zero video evidence in the video shown of a fight being broken up, only a mob of people attacking this smaller person, Please share the video you have that I do not have, I would like to have a better understanding of what went on here. If you are going by this video alone you are very misinformed.
that "fuck you" is all the judge or jury need 🤷🏼♂️
Exactly what I thought no fear of your life when yelling fuck you and escalating
Yeah...that was a shot fired in anger not fear.
The shooter is going to go to prison most likely.
@@user-mt5zh2pz7q He will go to jail, but no way they will get attempted murder. It was assault with a deadly weapon at best
@@MDCxThePGhe’ll cop a deal with the DA and get less time with tons more probation guaranteed
My thoughts exactly
Regardless of their political stance those two old men were just standing there. Blaming them for the shooting is over the top.
Attacking the younger dude for protesting them was over the top as well
Indeed.
Imagine your group instigating a physical altercation with more than one of the group jumping on one guy then trying to shame two elderly protesters into being at fault when it backfires. 🤦♂️
@@HoozpoppinWhat happened on Jan 6th?
@@1977Suspiria The left has deception, shame or violence, just like their father, Marx. My question to them is, ok you wanted to tear down Western civilization. Congrats, you did it. Now what?
I stay away from group gatherings for exactly this reason. I ride motorcycles, no group rides. Bunch of guys go to the range? I won't be there. Protests and rallys? No way. All it takes is one idiot to ruin everyone's lives and I don't want to put power over my life in their hands. Mob mentality is also terrifying.
I can agree that mob mentality is bad if it's organized poorly for all the wrong reasons. The French people are an example of mob mentality done right over political disagreements, one of which had their government overturn their decision to raise the minimum retirement age. It's all about how many you can rally to the cause and what you do to make them listen. There's more power in the hands of the People than most realize - all that's needed is the unified motivation to stand up to the unfairness wrought by the 1% who are "in control".
@@Ragehungeri agree. But in the u.s. the people are too far divided.........which will be the down fall. Smh
@@Ragehunger you're right but I'm not willing to risk it. It's sad and it sucks but that's where we're at.
Agreed and don’t forget how personal responsibility while in a group is minimized while lone individual’s are often magnified out of proportion. Add complete unpredictable behavior when there are numerous hostile people makes it a high risk and low reward in many of these situations.
Same except the range, I go with my dad and my friends sometimes and it's a good time. Group rides with people I don't know and rallys/protests? Agreed, screw that!
Honestly love how this channel is able to navigate these situations without political bias or emotional conclusions. You guys are true professionals and I love the content! Keep it up!
Thanks for the encouragement. We sure try.
Calling his sweater little really proves this point. ZERO bias here lol
This channel absolutely has a bias but overall it’s good with me because I tend to have the same biases. But ya they pick and choose how they decide to interpret the law
I completely agree with your assessment. Dude was physically free but fired a "fuck you" shot. What's scary is that the defenseless old guy is instantly lumped into a group with him and the table turned on him quickly.
He went there looking for trouble locked and loaded .
@@jhodges7041 people are stupid
That defenseless old guy should have stayed home
@ryanj6862 that defenseless old guy is an individual, not the guy who decided to bring a gun and shoot people.
Two SEPARATE people. You weren't even there, you don't know anything, yet you seem to have resolve to punish those you see as fit with no evidence.
Stay out of my country's positions of power, or else.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
The cameraman is a FOOL.....
"I got it on film bro"
true but great footage tho
Typical beta lefty
Yeah the cameraman was the REAL criminal that day....
“Do something”, call the cops. Typical narcissist.
I'm always amazed when people decide it's a good idea to chase someone with a gun who just shot someone
lol he ran with that same gun
@@leonardsrcgarage1919to get away from the police not the man chasing
@@UnyieldingwillGiven that he was being chased despite being armed, I beg to differ.
@@angrydragon4574 if I just shot someone why I would run from the middle aged man without a gun😐he’s running because because the police are on the way don’t be dumb rn would you wanna spend years in prison ? Basically what your saying is the middle aged man is scarier than a Glock
Yeah, that one gets me too like going up to someone’s car in a road rage that’s crazy 😮
I love how unbiased your take on this is, thanks for always sticking to the facts
Justified in drawing his weapon: Yes, he was being attacked by 2 people.
Justified in letting it eat: Nah. He had jumped over a wall, had a physical barrier between him and the threat.
I disagree because we cant see the guy on the other side other wall. If was looking like he was even thinking about hopping over and attacking this guy some more than this is 100% self defense. Even if he was at a stand still, the shooter had just got away and turned around thinking the attacker might still be coming and enough is enough, now is the time. The amount of time it takes to realize the attacker stopped, it is too late, you've already shot. Its a mental block of sorts that ASP has talked about before. In this case I still believe innocence due to this being a human factor and "safety" doesn't come from freeing yourself from ones hands for a couple of seconds.
IDK about New Mexico, but here in Texas it's not only illegal to restrict a person's movement (Sec. 20.02.), a person has no duty to retreat when presented with a threat (Sec. 9.31.). He easily jumped over the wall, after being attacked directly by two people with more surrounding him, they could have just as easily jumped the wall and therefore the threat still presented itself.
They have no business assaulting another, if you don't want to be shot, stop assaulting people and stop restraining people.
@@AllenLantz Lol you're braindead if you think this was a justified shooting.
@@AllenLantz Well said. I wish I had that kind of self protection in my commie Canada.
He also initiated the melee by jumping over the barrier to begin with while armed.
the guy filming is so proud of himself for getting it on film.
Off topic, but the word 'filming' is not really accurate anymore. I say it. No biggie. Just saying...
@@noahway13 people park on a driveway and drive on a parkway. Who cares
@@noahway13doesn’t matter. Language changes and get new meanings. “Using a floppy disc as a save file is inaccurate because we don’t use floppy discs anymore” 🥱
But yet even then, the Maga crowd won't believe it, just like Biden winning the election.
I bet the courts are proud, considering how valuable this video evidence will likely be
One guy shoots another guy.
Cameraman runs up to a third guy and says,”all of you guys killed somebody today.”?
Because these people practice identity politics.
They have a hivemind and consider everyone of the same group responsible.
@@benanders4412it’s a melanin thing. Tribalistic.
@@benanders4412yes, they’re completely irrational and unhinged in that way.
That’s how the news treats all protestors. They pretend that anyone, who happens to say or do something horrible, is representative of the everyone who is protesting. That’s how these college protesters are being treated currently.
That's leftists for ya.
No way in hell was he justified in this shooting!!!! They let him go and he jumped over a wall!! At the point he shot there was a wall between him and the other guys!!
I got this on film, I’m the greatest! I ran past a dying dude to say this!
The police chief that was shot and killed during the "Summer of Love" had someone standing there, filming, telling him to "Rest in Peace" and that someone needs to call 911. He had a phone IN HIS HAND.
A disabled man drowned in a pond while three people filmed it and did NOTHING to help him.
Technology is evolving faster than humans are evolving common decency. It'll be over a thousand years before someone ever even thinks to stop recording on the communication device in their hand and call for help. Our species is doomed.
Friend: *shot*
Guy: “I got it on film, bro!”
The fact that he got this on film does more for the guy that got shot than anyone else there did
these are paid activists, they care more about propaganda. The dude who was shot was flown out from the west coast to be a thug at the demonstration
@@ryanm839shouldn’t have tried to jump him
Film??? Tell me you are a boomer without telling me you are a boomer!
@@jasonbender2459 Tell everyone you’re an immature child, without telling everyone you’re an immature child…🤦♂️
Worse thing you can do in a fight is listen to somebody outside of the fight
Not true….
What if the guy is mike tyson?
@@uueyesh8909even Mike Tyson loses lol
ohh yup
@@wolfx5499 Wait what? When???
Holy cow I’ve been waiting for context to this one so long. Thank you
The fact that the cop didn't move a single inch after the shot is just ridiculous. I just ran a few feet after the cameraman showed him
It’s funny how the guy keeps yelling “I got it on film” over and over like that’s gonna make him less shot 😅
Everyone knows the cameraman never dies
it's because they believe he will be held accountable, you're not very smart but you think you're clever?
@@jackblack7827It’s also because he knows it’ll be a viral moment for him to post.Never underestimate the hunger for clout even at the expense of someone else’s life.All he cares about is the virality of it.
@@jackblack7827 well duh smh 🤦🏾♂️ I never said that he wouldn’t
Violating multiple rules of stupid is the lesson of this video.
A stupid place with stupid people at a stupid time
It's really pleasant to see how respectful and civilized the comment section is. When this type of situation happens but political ideologies are reversed, the comments are quite extreme.
Not time and place though
What may have happened is that one of the attackers was starting to climb that wall that you can't see on the camera. Was this private property or public property? What right did those multiple people have to force him out of the area?
Sad, you can tell those two older gentleman didn't know that was going to happen and smacking his hat off shows how mature both sides are.
That is the sad part
fascinating that you blame “both sides” for this because someone in a red hat was just there but clearly those taking issue with his hat taken it to the degree of getting physical and stealing his hat… is equal to the crimes committed seen here.
Your “logic”: it’s both sides fault that a fight broke out because one guy had a red hat on so all bets are off then. The fact that your thought process leads you to believe that because someone with a different opinion shows up to an event wearing a f’n hat equates to physical violence, something that we don’t even fully know if that had anything to do with this situation. If my words cause you to get physical, we “both”didn’t start anything. Your emotions and lack of control started it.
Yeah, in the middle of a live shooter event, the guy's first thought is to swipe a hat off a random old(er) man's head? Those protesters were clearly in their glory after it happened, immediately defaulting to lefty talking points and slogans.
Smacking the hat off was wrong, but someone from their protest group shot someone from your protest group. I can understand the heightened emotion. One group took a hat, the other shot someone. They're not the same.
@@SebiSthlm. It was a small group of triggered liberals attacking one guy for wearing a MAGA hat, then they want to play the victim after they fucked around and found out; dude with the gun was 100% justified.
Man look how nice the weather looks, I'd rather be at the park with my grandson. My father told me the best way to deal with a bad situation is to avoid it. Dont fight because you can win, only fight if it cant be avoided.
First and foremost, damn brotha u lookin good buddy. Been a while since I seen one of your videos pop up in my feed. Keep up the good work👍🏻
John I know it’s off topic, but what product do you put in your hair to keep slicked back?
I think for me the "f you" as he's drawing is the most damning.
I don't think that was him that said that. I think that came from the victim's side of the protest.
@@Neverg1veup bro it's not hard to tell... the guy said "F*** you B***" then pulled the trigger.
Doesn't even matter if he did say it. Disparity of force equals shots on target. They BOTH have a right to be there
@@titaniumhomes7599 buddy will be found guilty... End of story
@@HacksawJimThuggin Highly unlikely. The perpetrator doesn't have to be armed to defend yourself.
Not justified at all. Blaming those 2 older men wasn't justified either and the accuser is a 🤡
Imagine what would happen if the two assaulter's did that to a police officer?! That's right, they would both get a free trip to the medical examiners office for a justified toe tag fitment after he mag dumped them! Keep your hands to yourself!
@@mobeydick37that made no sense and don’t get why u tried to bring police into this. Just stop talking and go read a book ur arguments don’t make sense lol
Lesson to learn here: keep your hands to yourself. You don’t get to control other people, and you should expect the worst if you do try to do something stupid of the likes, like you see here
yeah easy conviction; he was out looking for blood just the same as that older guy that tried to kill 4 teens in the river yikes
You gotta keep your hands to yourself and respect others space. You put your hands on me....gun is coming out
Hindsight is always 20/20 him not calling cops after fleeing could simply be being stuck in fight or flight mode. Unless trained to do so you don't really think what to do after.
the cop in the background the whole time is wild.
parking lot in the background since the very first frame too. lol
Crazy to blame people who weren't responsible for it. And then to just slap the hats off them, man thats crazy.
Leftists don't see people. They see groups.
Yep. Bunch of hyenas masquerading as adults.
Well they are racists fighting for some colonizer from the past. So it's not like they're little innocent angels.
The old men and shooter instigated the whole thing.
@@f.n.a5741 the red hats aren't even from Santa Fe.
The problem is, you're going to see a lot more of this. Everyone is fed up. Politicians have us directing our anger at each other, instead of at them. But that's the plan. They don't care if we off each other on the streets for their cause. They're hoping for it. Makes great headlines. If we ever unite against them, they're screwd and they know it. There are just way too many sheep in the country. COVID taught me that.
Agree. Americans are so pissed off over our poor governments actions and I think the news just stir things up with misleading headlines. Calm Kindness and Compassion we need from each other. I have a sign my daughter made, not the author of it but it says BElieve THEre is GOOD in the world. Cheers!
You were just talking about the division from politicians and yet you brought Covid up! Sounds like you are all about division.
@@leesylvester8713 If that's what you took away from that, then you are one of the sheep that's part of the problem.
@@leesylvester8713 You missed the point. All I said is COVID taught me why we won't ever be united. How many jabs did you get?
@@bkilpatr100 then why ask him abt the number of jabs he got??
Look in the mirror when you have the time instead of pointing fingers
Wow I havent watched a video of yours in a while but man great job on the weight loss!
God damn, haven't been to your channel in ages. Grats on the weight loss.
I live in Albuquerque. New Mexico never disappoints. You could have an entire show based on this place.
I'm sorry you live in Albuquerque
Breaking Bad was excellent.
Not sure if that’s the joke, but arguable one of the best shows ever made takes place in Albuquerque
I was at Albuquerque for a night and saw a lot of stuff and weird things, but the people, even the felons, were very nice to me LOL, God bless!
Albuquirky
The moment he jumped the wall and pulled his gun fundamentally changed the dynamic of the conflict. If the other party had continued over the wall after him, then it could be ruled as justified. As it is, the shooter let his emotions push him two steps beyond what was justified in the moment. Enjoy the clink!
Maybe and maybe not. You cannot see what the assaulters are doing off screen to the right at that moment.
@@Stubbies2003the shooter is the assaulter. He was assaulting the protesters and they were pushing him away . They push him over once but he jumps back to confront them . They push him back over a second time and that’s when he draws his fire arm.
It’s literally on video.
@@Charles-tw2sg not he assaulter is the one attacking the shooter, he was the one jumped on. we don't see him jumping on anyone or hitting first, they were not pushing him away
@@007kingifrit Yup the shooter was the one assaulting people and so were the older guys in MAGA hats. Just cause you say it’s not on video doesn’t mean the there was no precursor to what led to the shooting.
In the beginning of the video a woman says “ you cowards you attacked women and children” play the video and actually listen . You’ll hear the woman clearly say “cowards “ plural with an “s “ she is referring to the guys wearing MAGA hats all three of them. The includes the shooter and the two older men.
Those guys were stopping the shooter from going back and assaulting more innocent people including children.
It's literally on video, we can see them assaulting him for being in a public area. He responded with greater force, much to their surprise. @@Charles-tw2sg
I respect your well thought out and reasonable analysis.
Really? This guy blamed a grandpa for coming to express his first amendment rights. This guys a douche.
Wow I haven’t watched a video in over a year or two, I used to watch religiously I guess life hit me and I took a RUclips break, but John I must say you’re rocking that beard and long hair my guy !! Love it !
Protesting is a right. Assault is not. It really is that simple!
Getting Attacked from a bunch of people, and then get charged? U know your "LIFE" s u c k s when u show up with a Maga hat 2 this kind of event? This is your life and its ending 1 minute at a time? GET a clue and do something better ...
Correct, they should not have assaulted him!
I agree, his protesting was legal, his attack by others was not. He had every right to protect himself.
@@IMINTHEMOMENTRU"Constitutional Rights".
@@globetrotting2628 ...with proportional force. Was this proportional?
He cared so much about his political affiliation that he gave up his right to cast a ballot.
Guilty as charged. Death penalty. But his worst crime was walking around saying "I got it on film (sic)" when he should have been helping the victim. At the least he should have used his cell phone to call the police.
@@RockinRobbins13💯
Imagine what would happen if the two assaulter's did that to a police officer?! That's right, they would both get a free trip to the medical examiners office for a justified toe tag fitment after he mag dumped them! Keep your hands to yourself!
The best part of this so far is seeing this guy crying in court when faced with consequences. His name is Ryan David Martinez.
The guys jumped him so they could take his hat. Bullies got shot. Seems appropriate, but illegal. Keep your hands off people and you won’t get shot.
The simmilar situation was raised during my gun license exam (I am non US). Seems like same decision would be all accross the world. Once the imediate threat is over - there is no self defence anymore. Also once shot has been done - you call the police/medics.
Really appreciate your perspective you present really well.
The reason I follow this channel is learning when and how to use a firearm properly. Part of that learning is to not make poor choices. Among the many benefit of this is keeping my right to possess my firearm. Thanks for sharing.
When you choose to carry and are not mentally and morally strong, that firearm will help you destroy your life and most likely at least one other person. Be honest with yourself. Choose not to carry into a situation where you would be tempted to be an idiot.
Right we were all young once and although i wouldnt carry at a protest i know it would need to be a concrete decision. One against patriotism to be honest and not brutal.@RockinRobbins13
@@Little_Horus Sometimes, due to decisions made ahead of time when we had a clear head, we are probably destined to be an example for others not to follow, like the fool in this video.
Amen. I’m a 2nd Amendment absolutist, and I think people should be able to carry whenever and wherever they please. That being said, I’ll absolutely agree that there are times when it probably isn’t smart to be carrying, and a volatile situation like this is a good example. This kid likely ruined his life because he got p*ssed off over being pushed and his ego is going to get him sent to prison. While it’s also true that the other people had no right to put their hands on him, he wasn’t in any immediate danger when he shot. Just a sad situation all around, and neither side comes out looking very good.
@@heathermillsphantomlimb9314 And unfortunately he is valuable to society now as an example of what you get when you take a healthy dose of stupid.
You have to be ready for these circumstances in advance, because you or I might make the same bad decision he did if we had the tools to do it.
You have to know when to turn it up and when to turn it down. This guy can't control his emotions. His vocalization in that moment clearly showed he was reacting in anger, not necessity. That's no bueno. He should face a "jury of his peers" and I predict it will not turn out well for him.
"When your fist rise , lower your temper."
"When your temper rises, lower your fists."
Grandmaster Ed Parker
Yea ik how do a bunch of grown men get mad enough to assault someone especially when theyre attacking someone with a gun those dudes need to learn
Haven't watched your videos in a long time, youve lost lots of weight my bro, you looking good!
i always thought "man why doesn't John work on his fitness to stay ready." I'm glad to see you are now. I've been doing the same with all this craziness going on.
If you do FB come join us in the Active Self Protection Fitness group! ruclips.net/video/Fmlung1eeQs/видео.htmlsi=q2lenlG3ULkG-DtW
One, keep your hands to yourself, two, just have your opinion, don’t let your opinion have you, third assume everyone is armed.
Those old ppl were with the maga supporter who shot that's why they were verbally abusing them. They probably knew each other?
Nice victim blaming 🙄
"ALWAYS"
@@ryanm839buddy it is his fault. It's like walking into a black neighborhood, yelling the n word and acting surprised when you get knocked tf put. Like cmon bro. This dude wanted the smoke, got it, then pulled a gun when he couldn't handle it
@@simplialpha2117 exactly. this is 100% correct.. he had an extra magazine in his waist for this exact reason
The best part is when the guy standing around holding a phone and filming is yelling at the cops to "do something!" Maybe put the phone down and do it yourself?
Or maybe call the cops instead of just filming nothing after the fact.
Lol what ...he has zero skills as a first responder what exactly did u want him to do ?
Documenting things like this is important.
@johnhassell5643 doubt you'd have the same opinion if you were laying there, bleeding out and everyone around refused to help because they would rather get likes on Tiktok off your suffering.
Sounds like a cheap cop out to excuse no accountability & a useless society
He's also one of the guys who hates cops, now he needs them.
The moment he jumped over the little wall and pulled out his firearm he was not in immediate threat or danger. There was a barrier between him and the “attackers” at that point, therefore he shouldn’t have pulled the trigger at that moment.
And he left the scene. I'm gonna say he doing time on this one
The only way he's going to stand a chance is an insanity plea. He was out of danger, the pursuers quit pursuing, there was a physical barrier, his life was NOT in immediate danger, his body was NOT in immediate danger of injury, the two men did NOT have weapons that could injure him on the other side of the barrier and "f you" during the shot was audible spite.
People that go to counter-protest with the intention of violence and exercise lethal force should be charged with first degree murder.
IMHO I'd be amazed if he didn't get a life sentence for this.
There's more to life than just Politics. Man these people let it rule over their life.
Politics LITERALLY rules your life... Like. Literally
@redfoxtactical8425 If you let it, it does. Monetary policy affects way more people as currency is one half of virtually every transaction. Guard your perception with your life lest it be manipulated right under your nose.
Yup! Because most of them have nothing else going on! In their life!
@@redfoxtactical8425 Literally, lol, good and true. I think it is the show biz, the hatred, the unreasonable behavior that has worked its way into politics are the 'problem'.
Not according to the left they literally tell us that "everything is political" all the time.
This is a sane and sober analysis of the situation. I don't agree with 100% of what ASP believes and propagates, but I appreciate the lessons. Good lesson. Thank you for the teachings.
Peaceful protests has always gotten the message through I believe in complete peaceful protest using your mind and your voice in a positive way
That was a great video, educationally, logically and emotionally. You did an amazing job of explaining the legal side of things and offered neutral rational arguments. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
-The protesters were grabbing him but no punches were being thrown.
-The guy in the background was saying "Let him go"
-He got away and hopped onto the other side of the wall
-The protesters didn't continue the altercation once he was on the other side of the wall.
He's getting convinced.
Doesn't matter, they chose to put hands on him and he fired back. This is why you dont put hands on people, if you make it physical then you've just instigated a fight.
convinced?
@@RainyFox-ot9qn Damn autocorrect.
This is the most sane, sober, prudent explanation of how to live in today’s time.
So much respect for John for keeping Politcs out of it. Truly giving un-biased advice to keep people safe. Keep up this good work.
If you didn’t say this I was!! The main I follow this channel!!
Agreed. The Law doesn't (and Shouldn't!) care if you are liberal or conservative, Republican, Green Party, Libertarian, Democrat, Democratic Socialist (I will say they should care if you are Communist, tho, just as much as they should care if you Fascist or "Nazi Socialist".
Post WW2, Europe decided they would enforce strictly any laws against possible hateful speech. In the US, we decided we would put up with hateful speech, so long as it wasn't directly threatening specific people. This may have been a mistake, however, to anyone with a healthy Grey matter regime, we can assume that all of those with a hateful base will soon lose their platform.
Totally agree. I have seen times where he gets just slightly political, probably unintentionally, but he is fantastic about assessing situations logically. He gives a bit too much credit to the police but is not afraid to call them out when it is obvious misconduct. Really respect this channel. His hair and beard were pretty criminal for a while but it looks like he found a comb and his hair and beard look great now.
Naaaaaa he didn't he is saying we don't like their political beliefs.
There is only one political side trying to take away our active self protection. He doesn’t have to scream what side he’s on to know. We are not liberals. A liberal that carry’s a gun is a hypocrite.
He was attacked while protesting which is a protected activity. The guys' protected rites were violated. They attacked a guy who was protesting with a different opinion. Is it justified, yes. Because if we allow our rites to be trampled on, then we lose our rites. Don't attack people if you don't wanna get hurt, it's simple really. Self defense is a rite we have, or am I missing something? The sad part is our constitutional rites get craped on and defenders that get attacked are found guilty for acting to preserve their own life. Seems like everyone involved needs to be charged with the same crime because it took everyone involved to create the situation that occurred.
That looks more retaliatory than defensive. He was just fine the entire time. He wasn't bludgeoned or anything whatsoever.
I would’ve used spray but not a firearm in this situation
Where do u buy it?
@@lilzeddy any Walmart, a lot of grocery stores, many gas stations, and Sports stores. Literally everywhere
And you'd be charged with, probably convicted of, assault with a weapon... because it would be unnecessary and unwarranted.
@@lilzeddy Even spray wasn't called for. He didn't escape, he was let go. He jumped the wall and nobody pursued. Using spray would have been a criminal assault and I'd bet it would most likely stick.
If you're a MAGA type person, remember "our crazies are more dangerous than your crazies" and "our crazies" will absolutely destroy everything Make America Great Again stands for just as they did on January 6. Unless you approve of this kind of gratuitous violence that kills your cause, just stay away and talk through your vote. We can disagree without shooting each other.
@@aweisen1likely not
He was free to go. It was more retaliatory than defensive. He turned around after getting free and turned around and fired and ran off.
Wouldn’t you think that the guys who just threw you to the ground might follow you and hurt you again
@yodagaming3252 maybe he will get the defense but I highly doubt it.
@@yodagaming3252 who threw who to the ground?
@yodagaming3252 I didn't see nobody to get thrown down on the ground.
@@yodagaming3252There was a barrier between them and he was the one advancing on them in the first place, he wasn't in any real danger and you know it lmao.
Now this is just my opinion but people should take the advice of this content creator cuz he's all to right 👍
You have two guys attacking you…you have no idea what will happen next….They could do anything….That sounds like self defense….
Still, he should’ve defended himself by pointing at them with a warning but not firing. Then if someone attacks him again he would then be justified to shoot.
This whole story is horrible. Goddamn idiots pulling out guns and shooting….This whole world has forgotten how horrible it is to kill someone. Hell, it’s glorified these days and it’s sickening.
Mfs just need to go to work and worry about their family, avoid all this drama
The problem is that while the good folks with jobs are working and trying to build this country up, those without jobs and dependent on the government are working to tear it all down.
@@jamescrumbaker3169 very true
That's the issue, too many people are just trying to stay out of the drama. That's what brought us to this point in the first place. Useless, indoctrinated wage slaves that are more concerned about paying their taxes than the future of their children. Pathetic.
@@ozeflvsh4522 That's the kind of people that the public schools pump out on a daily basis. We don't see the danger because we're brainwashed from an early age that this way of being is normal.
@@ozeflvsh4522The average American on either side does not have the self awareness or mental capacity to be able to properly distinguish between the truth- and a government psyop; your position hinges on either side being the "right" side. You are a slave to the Matrix, and you empower the system.
Keep your hands to yourself
Yeah, keep playing the victim!... Beating him lol? That was the lamest scuffle I've ever seen. To pull out a gun, when divided by a barrier, and there is no deadly threat, is simply insane. This was ego-driven; not an act of self defense. Notice, how the cowardice shooter ran away -- AFTER SHOOTING THE MAN (something he could have easily done, before he shot him -- but his cowardice and ego couldn't allow it). It was a clearly an act of bitterness (i.e. revenge); far from self defense.
@@TruthArchivesyour right. I would not consider this self defense. But like the poster said, “keep your hands to your self”.
If you keep talking shit you will catch hands
@@TruthArchives. A small mob of rabid liberals just beat him and stole his property, he was 100% justified in using force, go touch grass boy.
Did it occur to you the only time he had to pull the firearm was when there was space to do so. Pulling a firearm while he had 4 people with hands on him would be a bad idea
I don't know enough of the backstory. Just from your video, up until 4:25 when you asked for a comment. I think his turning and drawing was legitimate, they were assaulting him and he was trying to escape. The shooting is a no for me unless some one was doing something on the other side of that mini-wall that rose to use of deadly force...like drawing a gun. After the initial shot, if a chaser tried to assault him, I could see him drawing again, and possibly shooting.
With multiple people going after the dude and all the bad feelings on both sides, I don't see a sentence enhancement for hate crimes. It look like there was enough to go around for everyone.
It look like the parties that were being shot at blamed and assaulted those two old dudes?
Yall just chatting they never should have put they hands on him that’s assault and he has every right to protect himself whether he goes to jail or not they should have never touched him he was just talking
You have the right to protest PEACEFULLY.
People's definition of "peaceful" tends to be incredibly skewed among certain cultural groups. Many confuse it for anything from an intolerance for different-minded individuals to indiscriminate destruction of property just to "send a message". If it's not _their_ expectancy of peacefulness by others, they sadly don't count it. At least that's the mindset I see often when it comes to American disagreements on a pretty broad scale.
I think the person that cause the chaos was a counter-protester.
You also have the right to defend yourself from 15 deadly threats with deadly force.
@@bradleyohallaran3398 Ur lack of brain cell is consider a deadly threat to society
Yeah remember when the peaceful protestors in the Civil rights movement got firehosed and police dogs sic'ed on them simply for being black and not following racist laws? Sometimes unpeaceful protest is warranted. Shit our nation was founded on violent protest
He definitely should have reassessed things once he was over the wall and was separated from the others. This is where it is so important to stay calm and not let your emotions rule your actions.
Watch video again slowly…they pushed him over the wall once but he runs and jumps the wall back to try and get by them because he is charging the protestors. He is pushed over the wall a second time and that’s when he draws his firearm and shoots .
@Charles-tw2sg seems justified to me 4 on 1 trying to Slam him into a wall?? why tf is attempted murder even on the table??
@@Charles-tw2sg Was he not allowed to be on that side of the wall? Or is that a line they took it upon themselves to enforce? They also stole the hat, what was the reason for that? Again later with the old dude they stole his hat as well, they clearly felt justified in doing what they wanted just like our shooter.
Obviously their bad behavior changes nothing about the lack of justification for the shoot but it does inform about the tone and tenor of the situation and make me wonder why police aren't directly on scene. It seems pretty clear bad behavior on both sides escalated this until one of them did something monumentally stupid.
From what is shown here there should be charges against a lot more than the shooter, though his charges will and should be certainly be the most serious.
When kids fight you don't just punish the first kid who hits, you address the escalation as well. The goal should be to send a clear message that everyone is expected to act properly and deescalate conflicts. As soon as we start letting people justify their bad behavior by the bad behavior of others you're guaranteed to get spirals of stupidity like this.
@@Charles-tw2sg So what? It wouldn't matter if they pushed him back over the wall ten times. If anything that proves that they weren't trying to hurt him just keep him out. Once he was on the opposite side of the wall, where was the "threat"? Everyone was on the other side of the wall, not following him or doing anything to him when he draws and shoots.
@@open_minded_1 Yeah you’re right . I’m just pointing out to the viewers what they missed …the shooter keeps trying to charge forward when the back and forth over the wall happens. Some people watch the video without paying attention to that detail- it’s relevant because he’s not trying to retreat from a threat.
Cops came two seconds
But in our neighborhood more like two hours 😢
Man you look very healthy theses days good for you brother
True bill…100%. As a conservative gun owner, this guy was out of any immediate danger when he fired that shot. Not only did he have the option to flee, he also had a wall between him and the others involved. Irresponsible behavior.
And that's the main point here. This idiot's (I use a neutral descriptive term here) irresponsible and stupid action gets extended to all of us. We have to denounce acts like this strongly if we want to carry our firearms. We can't be supporting fools like this and more importantly we can't be that fool.
After he shoot an attacker, they chased him over and into the parking lot and he wasn't in danger?
@@chucknone234 Two errors. He wasn't attacked, he was held without being struck. After he shot, of course they chased the criminal and he didn't shoot as he fled the scene because he knew his life was over. And that is called justice. Remember you don't have to be a bad person to make a bad decision. But bad people most always make bad decisions. Whatever he gets, he put the quarter in the machine and shouldn't be surprised what comes out the chute.
@@RockinRobbins13 no he was attacked by a mob and chased into the parking lot.
@@RockinRobbins13A mob is lethal force, your perception of the force being used against you is what matters
The best thing in life is to avoid all protests, especially where there are opposing protests taking place.
Said every coward ever
@@kgreggbruce1552 let’s see, discretion is the better part of valor, better to be prudent than merely courageous, fools rush in, pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Sounds like wisdom is a greater virtue than courage, placing you on the wrong side of the argument.
@kgreggbruce Your mentality proves his point.
The cop was sleeping in his car.😂 you can see the cop the whole time sitting there.
You are spot on❤ much respect to the truth
Broadly agree with your assessment. The only thing I'd add is that the people who instigated the conflict by blocking someone's ingress into a public space should be charged with first amendment violations and assault and battery and the like.
Protest. Is. Peaceful. If you're manhandling someone who hasn't done anything to you yet, you're not protesting anymore. You're just beefing on a guy, and you should be held to account for it.
Exactly right. How you can tell if the prosecutor is just a political hack is whether or not all of the assaults caught on this video are also prosecuted.
It would be racist to think black people could behave themselves.
Private citizens can't be charged with first amendment violations. The first amendment only applies to interactions between the government and citizens.
Completely agree. You have your first amendment right to speech, assembly, etc. But you do NOT have a right to take actions that prevent the rights of others. These people should be charged with violating peoples' rights to access to a public space. If the DAs would do that, then perhaps these kinds of violent, occupy type protests would end.
If their kids were up there, they have every right to stop him walking over there
I don't know if this is the case, but it sure looks like the gunman was fishing for an excuse to fire his gun.
Good call. Whatever your politics, and mine are probably closer to those of the shooter than to those of the protestors, you can't retreat to a safe distance and then plug someone because you felt threatened 30 seconds ago. Taking a breath and saying "#*$*# you guys" first just makes it more obvious.
We need to know more? Because he was being mobbed by a large group of people?
he definitely had no right to fire. but prior to all of that nobody had any right to put their hands around his neck
That's exactly what I said in my analysis comment. The main question that a reasonable person has to ask themselves is, "would he have jumped back over that wall had he not been armed?" I would have to say no to that.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist What's to know? He voluntarily jumped back over the fence, which made him the aggressor. Would he have jumped back over the fence if he wasn't armed? No!!!
Shooter WAS assaulted. Lethal threat level with the disparity of numbers and the bashing into a wall. After hoping the barrier, drawing down, It looks like it's disengaged. Good take ASP. He's convicted - the hate enhancement.
That man was engaged in legal activities when two men decided to assault him. Yes he was not being punched or attacked with weapons but two men had their hands on him which is battery. At the very least great bodily injury could be a potential outcome. He managed to break free and jump the short wall. Without retreating he shoots at one of his attackers. New Mexico case law says people in public don’t have a duty to retreat. I do believe there is an argument to be made that he could have made better decisions or even try to retreat even though he is not legally required. But I personally don’t see that man commit any crimes. Just imagine you are defending yourself to law enforcement because you shot someone and people start saying well we don’t think you were being assaulted badly enough and there was a tiny wall an infant could hurdle between you and them so this is clearly attempted murder. I just don’t see a crime here or any criminal intent. Now deciding not to call to police was a terrible decision but given people’s politically driven opinions on the matter I can understand his hesitation. Although I agree with the overall message of this channel when it comes to spiritual fitness, good decision making and morality the truth often not discussed is that the police, DA and feds are not your friends. They have their own personal careers to advance and they see you as a stepping stone to get somewhere. So my advice is the best way to win a gunfight is to avoid the gunfight.
Forget your imaginary analysis. Get yourself to Specsavers fast to get your eyes checked....
@@user-wf7pe3zb8q my imaginary analysis? You mean explaining yourself to the police? That’s literally what this guy had to do because he fired his weapon.
"And the men who stirred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide, and the shotgun sings the song."
-The Who, Wont Get Fooled Again, 1971
"I tip my cap to the new revolution and pray, we don't get fooled again"
John the cops are in the background throughout the entire altercation. Seems like they choose to watch instead 😂
Cops have often been ordered not to interfere with protesters.
😂😂😂
In some cases that's a wise decision. We all need to understand, police are armed historians; they are not compelled to intervene.
@@nathanjames7030maybe, but I haven’t heard an order saying to to arrest anyone committing an assault with a deadly weapon
Johns a die hard police fanboy, he will always take their side.
bros beard+long hair is legit.
The cops are right there. The audacity 🤦🏾♂️
I was wondering if you were going to cover this one.
A coworker of mine was there covering the protest when this happened. According to what I heard and witnesses' accounts, the shooter had been threatening the other side for a while before this happened. He was aggressively trying to rush them over and over.
My theory is, he was purposely trying to coax a delf-defensive scenario that would allow him to be legally allowed to do what he did to someone he doesn't like. He probably saw himself as the next Rittenhouse.
Anyways, apparently this guy had been a keyboard warrior for a while now and had been making threats. (I expect he will go to jail for this)
Dude was also wearing a hoodie when everyone else was in summer clothes. Hood was pulled up. He went there for violence.
"everyone is too political" mfs in the comments suspiciously silent on the obvious bad shoot + intention to cause a "self defense" scenario
"He probably saw himself as the next Rittenhouse." Oh god if that is true this guy does not understand anything about Ritten, this guy is a man child compared to Rittenhouse.
He brought a loaded firearm to a location that he knew was gunna b confrontational jus so he could pull out and use it under self defense law. P$&@y
@@LOAF-do2xm . Smart man to bring a gun, he knew how aggressive and violent liberals usually are when you don't agree with them.
I was always told that you cannot provoke a confrontation and then use lethal force when things don’t go your way.
TO me it looks like he was running from a mob getting attacked how is that provoking?
@@turdferguson4447 before he took off running.
That's how most state's laws are written.
@@turdferguson4447 As John mentioned the shooter was instigating by attempting to enter the circle of people and disrupt their event wearing a maga hat. That's like walking into a bull ring wearing red and being surprised the bull gorged you
The shooter jump the fence towards the crowd. 🤔
The right question is: Does the man who was being attacked feels or felt he was still in danger of being killed or being harmed? You can't apply law enforcement officers rules of engagement to a private citizen that is attempting to protect themselves. With a good defense attorney, he should be acquitted.
Love how you mentioned how unfocused they were on who was actually shot
"I got em on film." Dude, you're not no boy scout either. The fact they treated senior citizens like trash and even stole their hats. Glad they proved both sides are wrong.
It does show that the group was assaulting everyone that day
Steeling a hat = Shooting someone. MAGA logic.
Those senior citizens knew what they were asking for.
Hahaha proved both sides are wrong🤣🤣🤣🤣. The Right Wing seriously is delusional. One member of one group shoots someone and one member of the other group snatched a hat…… Yeah those two things are exactly the same and thus proves both sides are equally wrong🤣🤣🤣
This is some serious whataboutism. A guy is shot and you’re talking about somebody’s hat getting swiped off their head? And there’s a lot of comments like this. Seriously?
Camera man starts whining to the cops to "do something" the second he first sees them, the guy is such a clown
Damn your looking really good and healthy brother ! Good on you ❤
There is not enough video to come to a conclusion of murder charges, What I did see in the video is a force of multiple people using force to stop this person from getting closer to what appeared to be the front of the building or where the statue may have been, they had no right to put their hands on him and use force on him, we cannot see what is happening on the other side of the wall when this person drew his weapon and fired. were they coming toward him again? were they going to use force on him a second time? hmm.. and when these people went after the older men wearing the maga hat I would have to say this was a violent group and he was most likely justified in using force to stop the threat.
Provocation, obtaining route of escape, not falling under opposing force at moment of shooting, etc.
This guy has an uphill legal battle on his hands now.
Well...depends on what the local DA thinks.
His hill is absolutely vertical. He's against a wall. He violated the ultimate rule of stupid. Don't let your emotions dictate what you do.
And you know that he wasn't under opposing force how? That video doesn't show ANY of the people that jumped him at the moment he shoots. You are ASSUMING that he isn't under opposing force. You may be right and you may be wrong.
@@Stubbies2003 No it's YOU who are assuming that something happened that isn't shown. We're assuming that there are no invisible fists pummeling him and the video shows the interaction. I think that's a safe bet.
Projection is a frank admission that you know you're wrong. Learn to take your own side in a discussion.
Imagine what would happen if the two assaulter's did that to a police officer?! That's right, they would both get a free trip to the medical examiners office for a justified toe tag fitment after he mag dumped them! Keep your hands to yourself!
Well that escalated quickly 😶
Adrenaline runs high.
@@rubyruby7573 I see intellect scares you as much as inanimate objects do...
@@stewiegriffin88yeah, every gun made makes the world a better place.
... Big thinkin' guy... 😂
@kfrerix9777 Quite the blanket statement there. Not surprising coming from a wet blanket such as yourself 🫠
@kfrerix9777 "Big thinking guy" Funny coming from someone who just posted the most closed minded, blanket statement he could think of. Whatcha compensating for over there tiger? 🤔
Wow I quit following this guy a long time ago but the weight loss and beard I can take you seriously. I’ll follow again
I think it's the heat of the moment for us, Looking at it in slow motion, it's way different from just being manhandled