Good example of why you should never get into street fights, road rages, etc. Just never know if the other party is going to wildly over-react and go for deadly force.
That’s what happened in the BJJ community. A highly decorated black belt got a physical altercation with an off duty police officer at a bar and choked him unconscious. The cop wakes up and shoots him in the back of the head killing him.
I really don't like when people say stuff like that. People shouldn't not get into fights with people because they might get shot. People should not get into fights with people because it's the wrong thing to do. If you're so quick to such intense anger that the only thing preventing you from fighting someone is the fact that you might die, you shoudn't be carying a gun because you're not conducing yourself appropriately.
Guy brought a hammer to an argument and then shot someone when they were already down a flight of stairs. When you only have 2 brain cells make sure you use both of them at the same time or stuff like this will happen.
I'm self employed but had a contractor ask me to sign a code of conduct on their sites. Bottom line says no weapons. I let him know I would not be signing the paperwork because of it. Didn't sign the form and still working for the company as a sub contractor. Always stand up for your rights. Don't sign anything you don't agree with.
Don’t listen to this man… you won’t get the job 99.9% if the time WE as business owners have to follow these rules to be INSURED!! I would hire someone smart enough to SIGN, and still carry “without my knowing (wink)” I also wouldn’t make someone an employee who is whining before he even starts.
If anyone was self employed it was Abraham fuckin Lincoln. Fun fact there was actually several carved president faces for Mt Rushmore that were extras and smaller designs. They ended up not being used left in a field abandoned, over the years the rocks have crumbled and weathered one being Abraham Lincolns head with a rock chunk that has fallen off the carving right in the exact location where he was shot in the head by booth.
Its incredibly stupid policy to begin with, if your company outright bans the carry and lawful use of personal firearms because of some idiot who was never background tested.
I work for a grocery store and I carry everyday the past 5 years for protection even though my company does not have it written anywhere that I can't carry I never ask never tell anyone. Im constantly aware of what's going on around me and practice my proficiency every 3-4 months but danger can happen anywhere and I feel my safety is more important than a job that will replace me in a heart beat if anything ever happened to me.
@@Neil05 not that funny, if any of the workers at the grocery store in buffalo who got murdered not too long ago were carrying it might have gone different.
@@Neil05 He's probably American. Look up the crime rate with firearms over there. It's fucking mind boggling. I would arm myself too If I was to live in the far west 😂
I carry everywhere, yes that includes at work. If I'm carrying correctly (and I am), no one will ever know it's there unless there's a much larger issue present at that time. Violence can happen anywhere at any time, I'll find a new job if I must, but I will not stop being able to protect myself.
I used to work for CTA as a bus operator. This is in Chicago. As a CCL holder I carried my firearm daily while I drove the buses. Operators were being robbed left and right. Wasn’t gonna become a victim to satisfy a dumb company policy.
@@snake_eater71 I’m not sure of that. I do know an operator was shot in the face after he told a passenger to leave the bus at the end of the line. Another was shot after telling a passenger to put on a mask. Operators have been jumped on and assaulted by mobs. Wouldn’t have been me.
Let me explain why this "dumb company policy" exists. It isn't to make you unsafe or strip away your rights, it exists for only 1 reason, and you must accept it if you choose to violate this policy. The reason is: limiting their liability. With this policy in place and actively enforced, if anything happens to anyone because of your firearm, all financial liabilities fall strictly on you, and not them. You agreed to this policy, and that is all they need. Even if something happens and the company is sued, and loses, they will immediately seek financial relief from you. That is just how it works. Good luck going in front of a jury trying to explain that you agreed to follow a policy and then violated it. You have no shot of winning. Then, you are in financial ruin for the rest of your life. That is why this "dumb company policy" exists.
Someone stepped up on me once and I said "hey don't be closing the distance on me". When I said that, the guy immediately backed up and stopped. When he heard that phrase, I think it made him think that I knew what I was doing.
@@thegrinchmob5108 to land a punch, someone has to be in punching range. most of the time, when people get sucker punched or in a fight, the aggressor gets in their air space. When people get close, I back up or start scratching my chin, face so I can have my hands up without looking aggressive.
Straight up attempted murder. The guy who pushed the transit worker was justified and needed to walk away or disarm him. Even if you are fearful for your life you can’t really claim defence when you are the initial aggressor with a hammer.
I don't know. The dude in the gray shirt obviously STARTED something off camera, given the backstory we know.. Him being shot while running down the stairs like a COWARD is a prime example of "don't start none & there won't be none." I'd say he deserved something but perhaps not being shot.
@@toddtravis2596 You didn't miss anything! The gray shirt guy IS the original aggressor. He started a situation and wimped out after he pushed the worker down & ran off. He's gonna have to remember that moment for the rest of his life. I bet he won't fuck with anyone else ever again.
@@toddtravis2596 The transit worker armed himself with a hammer over a verbal argument then tried to approach the dude while holding the hammer, so the dude pushed him. The transit worker is the aggressor for bringing out a hammer over a verbal argument. Typically, obviously not always though, the person who poses a physical threat first is seen as the aggressor from my experience unless the dude was threatening to hurt the transit worker. Even then, the transit worker's response by getting a hammer for intimidation, instead of just walking away or calling the cops back, would not make him look good in court. Pulling the gun just sealed his fate.
Hey @Active Self Protection carrying concealed in Illinois, one of the prohibited areas is public transit. He was not only carrying against company policy, but he was also breaking Illinois law. 430 ILCS 66/65 a.8.
Attempted murder is harder to prove, because it typically involves an extra element (murderous intent) compared to aggravated assault. Aggravated assault can be proven without proving the intent to kill.
@@Amtcboy I don't think you watched the same video we all did. The victim here isn't a "victim" he's absolutely a victim. You don't get to just mag dump on someone who pushes you over. That's ridiculous. It wasn't super clear in the video whether he pushed him with open hands or closed fists, but what is clear is that it was on his shoulders and the guy didn't have a great center of gravity... so much of the "being pushed over" bits was the worker's own physical fitness and not the push in general. The guy who got lead poisoning here was clearly leaving the scene, was halfway down the stairs.... so much wrong here.
@@Amtcboy I change my response then. I don't think you know how quotation marks work. Unless you genuinely believe that if you start a fight you aren't the victim if someone shoots you in the face 9 times. Then you're just wrong.
95th Station is about as rough an area as you're going to get in Chicago. I believe it when the story said the "victim" was hassling passengers as well as CTA employees. There's lots of them like that in Chi-town. I know, grew up riding those trains. Employee sacrificed himself to get a perp off the trains.
I work for a small family owned company. With them knowing I’m a safe and level headed person me carrying is kinda encouraged because some of the places I work at and sometimes I carry large amounts of money from customers. If it’s not allowed I still think people should carry like we have seen many times compliance doesn’t guarantee safety and no company policy is worth loosing my life.
I carried against company policy to one job, it was in a bad neighborhood, a shooting had happened right in the middle of an intersection outside of the employee entrance shortly after i started working there.. my main job there at the time was building maintenance an I was working primarily outside.
I always carried for years against my employer’s policy. I figured my job was a very small price to pay to save my or someone else’s life. Fortunately, never had to use my firearm.
Yeah. If you never say anything no one will ever know you carry and it will never be a problem with the policy, but if you have to use the firearm, I don't really think you would want to stay in the company afterwards anyway.
Everyone should be able to carry unless law enforcement is present thats why i hate buildings that have a no gun sign outside and nothing is stoping you from bringing one in only a good citizen would listen and a criminal with bad intentions could rob and kill everyone.i use to work very early and very late night at different trucking companies and being alone was nerve racking because i could have been mugged at any moment, a locoal home depot truck driver late at night delivering stuff he was shot killed and robbed was unnecessary but criminals always have bad intentions. Stay safe and always carry police might not get to you in time to help you sometimes you have to protect yourself from these low lifes.
@@jacob5058 Incorrect. EVERYONE should not be able to carry. Because too many "everyones" are mental midgets like this man. Firearms are deadly weapons. Not everyone has the mental/emotional maturity to handle the responsibility that comes with carrying.
We can’t carry at work but we had a guy who did and a homeowner saw he was carrying called the cops dude didn’t have cc permit and was driving an idot truck with weed in the truck he’s no longer with us 😂
"Ag assault?" wtf? this is attempted murder!! Also, the bystander says "he got his pipe boy!".. this is how people act when theyre ready to witness a murder? fcking ridiculous. has murder become such a regular sight that people in Chicago treat it as a spectator sport? rhetorical question. we all know the answer
@@BACNandEGGS yep. and sad thing is, I was a teen in the 80s and lived in a town where every other person had a gun. either in their truck or on their person. the town was saturated and these things RARELY ever happened. They keep saying we have a "gun problem" but we dont. we have a serious people problem, and a corrosive culture the last 10 years. Everybody plays the victim and nobody takes accountability for ANYTHING they do wrong. Like this transit agent. getting your feelings hurt or being pushed mean someone dies? wtf?
@@flipnap2112 exactly. I recall back when I was in school a bunch of high schoolers even had gun racks in the back window of their trucks & rifles visible , trucks unlocked even! Zero shootings. Granted it was in Arkansas but this was even the late 90s & early 2000s. The teachers parked in the same big parking lot as the high schoolers who drove their trucks. No one even thought twice at all the guns. I mean they didn't bring guns inside the school but the parking lot was right outside the school & gym. It was a much better time.
I've carried at work daily since the day I started there about 10 years ago. Office setting. It used to be prohibited, but that employee manual has long been retired. It is now not written anywhere if it's allowed or not. Several people know I carry, and there are several others that do as well. It just kinda goes unspoken. I did ask one of the company directors once if I was permitted to bring my firearm on a work trip. He didn't care.
I remember this incident. This happened in Chicago at the 95th Red Line Terminal. I believe that this shooting was a terrible shoot, and not justified. But the funny thing is that they were quick to arrest the CTA employee and not give him a cash bond at first, but they have been letting out other criminals for similar acts almost immediately!
People like this are why your rights are always under threat. You guys are so lucky to have so many defensive options but unfortunately insane people will always exist. Hope the worker gets 20+ years and your rights continue to be strongly defended
We don't know what happened at the beginning or why the worker even came out of his area in the first place. I agree that he shouldn't have ended it in this way but this doesn't show how it escalated to get to this point
I grew up Detroit southwest to be exact. I’ve been carrying guns since 15 I’m 36. I will protect myself no matter what man say. When your so called black you already know you can get locked up or die no Beal deal. I went to my first funeral in the second grade friend got hit with a stray. The dude that shot him just a bitch. I’ve survived two robbery attempts in detroit and nearly missed another one. It’s ways to handle everything the ones with more sense usually live the longest.
When I was a security guard and I did "unarmed" contracts, I absolutely carried. They were only "unarmed" because the customer was too cheap to pay the extra $5 an hour to make it armed. I love when I showed up to a job only to find out it wasn't anti shoplifting but a disgruntled employee with death threats against the store. Fuck security work, I'm glad I don't do it any more.
I’m a transit worker today’s society has degraded in the twenty plus years I’ve worked, retirement can’t come soon enough. Similar situations like this (aside from the shooting) happen regularly.
I ccw-ed while installing at Brinks and ADT home security- regardless of their policy. I went into homes where some were at one time a variety of victims. Even drug dealers secure their homes and video monitor. Sometimes, here in South KCMO, it got scary- bullet holes in walls, paying 1,000$ + on the trunk of a car and attack dogs. Darn right I will continue.
Exactly. U ONLY use your gun when your life is in immediate danger, a gun should be your last & or only option & when absolutely necessary. I'm so sick of seeing all these idiots using illegal guns to shoot someone all because they're too big of p*ss-ies to fight like a man 1 on 1 or to just have emotional maturity & control their emotions.
@@asanitationstompout8473 so attempting to murder someone who was defending against someone with a weapon then use a gun to kill you doesn't warrant the death penalty?
I was a public school custodian and so of course was prohibited from carrying on the job. At one building I was repeatedly called in in the wee hours to reset the glitchy boiler at a building in the middle of crack alley. Once at another building I actually surprised and scared off a burglar while checking out a tripped alarm. In hindsight If I had to do it over again, I would carry in those situations, policy be damned.
@William Burroughs Both my children's schools have an armed ex military officers at their schools every day & the doors are never unlocked aside from pushing the red buttons & you must be buzzed in by someone in the office. But yeah let's not have armed ex military veterans protecting our children - let's make more gun laws or better yet make guns illegal! 🤦🏽♀️ .... because we also all clearly know that places where guns don't exist, it's not like they'd just use bombs instead. But they do exist & the gun laws our politicians come up with are just a flashing sign that says - hey no one else will have a gun here! Hence why so many unhinged people attack schools. recall back when I was in school a bunch of high schoolers even had gun racks in the back window of their trucks & rifles visible , trucks unlocked even! Zero shootings. Granted it was in Arkansas but this was even the late 90s & early 2000s. The teachers parked in the same big parking lot as the high schoolers who drove their trucks. No one even thought twice at all the guns. I mean they didn't bring guns inside the school but the parking lot was right outside the school & gym. It was a much better time.
I used to have a horrible temper, once I began carrying my firearm every single day. I learned to let things go. On the road, at home. Wherever I am, I remind myself that people are stupid and no matter how hard you try to beat sense into them It doesn’t work, they will always be ignorant and stupid.
@@Mustang1984 Exactly! Especially since even if you kill or at least rough up someone for being an asshole or even if you're in the wrong, the police got their numbers and their guns after you once you do so. It may feel cowardly to not shoot when you physically can but ultimately it's the right decision despite hurt egos.
I work for a merchandising company where i drive my personal vehicle to different stores. They say i can't have any weapons or ammo in my own car or on me in stores. Lol, good one.
I’ve carried where it was against policy and I just figured, if I’m doing a good job “concealed carrying” it will never be an issue. I did have a permit though and was within the law, just not company policy.
I find it crazy that you can shoot at someone 9 times, hit them 3 times, and then STILL not be charged with attempted murder. Am I missing a technicality somewhere?
"According to authorities, 53-year-old Sylvester Adams is facing two felony charges, including one for *attempted murder,* in connection with the shooting, which took place at approximately 2 a.m. at the 95th Street Red Line station."
*when someone assaults you… fixed it for you… still stupid because he came off as the threat originally but let’s not make it a non physical thing when the video is clearly in front of you.
@@101elelky ok and? U only use a gun when your life is in danger!!!! His life was not in danger at all. He got pushed/shoved. If he wanted to do anything about it he had 2 options = Lay there & call the cops for the other guy to be charged for assault OR get up & use his hands like a man. But instead he chose shooting someone walking away in the back , trying to murder someone all because he got pushed. 🤡🤯
@@WarmongerYT Can’t put your hands on just anybody especially if they ain’t touch you first … you have no idea what they are willing to do to you…. Do you understand life? Or have you been living on east and oblivious mode? idc about anything you talking about… read what I said… take it in ….. UNDERSTAND the context and go about your day….
@@WarmongerYT “like a man” woman sit down, shut up, and get your feelings out of this. This is reality something I’m afraid you’re not aware of…. The self righteousness doesn’t fly here. People do what they want to do no matter how you think they should’ve handled it…. There’s a little life lesson for you. This why women just need to sit some things out when it comes to topics, reality cares nothing about your personal feelings……so emotionally involved you’re responding to me like I’m defending the guy. Quit yapping !
I work in a fan shop welding and the management n supervisor useto send men providing for their family home and treat them like a number or cattle. Treating skilled tradesmen/ welders like peasant workers. I was convinced someone would come up there as a active shooter. It was a gun free facility but I carried everyday…
Indeed. A charge that, if you ask me, shouldn't exist. Attempted murder should be charged as murder. Failing by sheer luck doesn't change what you did.
One place I worked had an official in print policy of no guns at work. The unofficial policy was always carry. One time the GM found out that I had confronted trespassers after hours when I was working late. He called me into the office and said, "Please tell me you were packing when you confronted them!" I assured him I was, and he breathed a sigh of relief. I had never talked with him about it before. I had only been told by a couple of coworkers. I was told by the GM that only a few select people were allowed to carry, I was expected to carry as the facilities maintenance director. This was at a Pacific Northwest ski resort.
@@dl8619 I thought the same thing! The defense should go for attempted murder. He wasn’t exactly stopping a threat since he was the one with a hammer. Now being pushed like that could hurt or kill someone, but the threat wasn’t there after he got up.
@@dl8619 wrong. Attempted murder has a very low success rate. It is very difficult to prove that a person attempted to murder someone else. Aggravated assault is usually what the crown goes for bc it is far easier to prove and it carries a pretty heavy sentence.. Not everything is about race.
For someone to be charged with attempted murder I believe the prosecution must prove something called "malice aforethought" which is difficult to prove in court from what I gather. I could be wrong though.
I would never obey a company telling me I didn't have the right to carry for self defense. But this man went after the other man to shoot him as he was leaving. Definitely aggravated assault! Flush your pride down the toilet!
I work for SEPTA which is essentially the same job he has but septa is for southeastern PA but im in Philadelphia and i don't blame some of the booth workers and cleaners who conceal carry in certain areas of this city that don't feel safe even if it's against policy
I've worked in multiple hospitals in multiple states. It was against hospital policy in all of them to have a gun on hospital property. The last hospital I worked at had a locked psyche unit in the hospital. It was against Washington State Law to carry a gun on hospital property because of the psyche unit.
"According to authorities, 53-year-old Sylvester Adams is facing two felony charges, including one for *attempted murder,* in connection with the shooting, which took place at approximately 2 a.m. at the 95th Street Red Line station."
When u gain enough confidence in ur self-defense skills, u r less likely to engage in ego battles. But when u r an insecure little coward, it's almost inevitable that u will try to prove something.
To be fair training helps you react better . If you have an ego you tend to use tour training for the wrong reasons. All dependent on the person and their training
Id love for you to take it a step further and elaborate how a CC holder watching this unfold in person should react. I dont want to insert myself into any unnecessary situations, but if your standing there watching this go down, as someone carrying what would you personally have done? Its clearly not a deadly threat from the man in grey but now its turned to a deadly threat from the worker once he raises that gun. Just an interesting topic/scenario to cover.
On carrying against company policy: I will lose my job before I lose my life, and like Coach Klein said in The Waterboy "What momma don't know won't hurt her"
"According to authorities, 53-year-old Sylvester Adams is facing two felony charges, including one for *attempted murder,* in connection with the shooting, which took place at approximately 2 a.m. at the 95th Street Red Line station."
If you feel carrying against policy is "necessary," but you need to in order to feel safe, you need a new job. But I feel like most people saying this are desk jockeys in cubicles. Not night shift cashiers and such.
@@gurkagurkadurka6688 that's thr dumbest take I've ever read. Every single job should allow you to protect yourself with a firearm because problems happen everywhere
@@gurkagurkadurka6688 Literally doesn't matter what job you have, you either have the means to defend yourself against a variety of possible threats at any given time or you don't. I wonder if you'll change your tune when you realize that you can be professional bunny rabbit trainer and still die violently to a random psychopath just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Big payday coming for the wounded man. All hospital bills paid by Transit and a ton of money for the victim and his lawyer. Transit Security was completely in the wrong.
Here’s a better question. Do you carry in states your CCW is not covered under. ie, CA or Colorado. I do. I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 any day.
@@dragonrider9051 good to hear he is doing better. I wish upon you and your son the very best. I carry and hunt for evil perpetrators like your son's attacker. I will continue to do so and will think of you and your son as I do.
I work from home now, but when I use to drive to an office and sit in a cubicle I was armed 100 percent. Company had a strict "no firearm" policy. I figured the only way they would ever know I was armed is if somebody came in and started shooting up the place. In that scenario I'd just assume be armed and able to defend myself and my co-workers even if I get fired afterwards.
HR professional of 20+ years. Majority of places I've worked/consulted have had a 'no firearms' policy as part of their handbook. Some, as permitted by state, include not allowed in employee's vehicles while on company property. NOT that the employer is second 2A, but they don't want to take on the liability should something occur.
I worked for the USDOJ after retiring from active LE where carrying a gun into the building/office was a firing offense. It was a good job that took me awhile to land so I did not carry during work hours, not worth the risk. I’m fully retired now, do as I please, so pretty much carry any time I leave the house.
John we had this exact situation happen at my work Friday night in our parking lot. I won’t share much because it is being investigated but I’ve already been cleared and justified for my actions. Keep these videos going and keep educating people. Thank you
If I had a reaction like this I know 100% I would be spending the rest of my life in prison this guy will be out in 5 years with the lack of charges they brought on him, incredible!!!!
I carry, even though my company's policy says not to even have it in my car on the property. You never know what could happen, and I'd rather lose my job than my life.
The love is to focus on what you set out to do. Seek positivity/beauty/constructivism. Avoid tension. Tension is the enemy. Smile & keep moving. How long does agitation really last? A few seconds, maybe 1/2 hr??? Let it decay & get to baseline.
Carrying against company policy I don’t care about. Shooting someone who is no longer a threat is ego driven revenge and is criminal. A moment of stupidity has impacted their lives and that of their families. A sad outcome for all.
The man made a big mistake by not completely incapacitating the worker and ending the threat when he had the chance. Ended up letting a man off easy who obviously would not do that for you. Prayers for a speedy recovery
I work in a drug and alcohol rehabilitation center/detox as a counselor. It is company policy not to allow any employees to carry any weapons (guns/ knives/ OC spray/ ankle med kit, ect). Despite the policy, I carry everything every day. That’s just my experience and preference. I would rather be fired than something worse happen. Again just my experience, and after almost 7 years nobody has ever noticed what I carry 🤷🏻♂️
I have carried covertly on jobs that didn't permit it, I can live thru being fired and a job hunt. No one can tell me I am not allowed to defend myself.
Right. When it comes to defending one's life, that person makes the rules. Not an employer, not a District Attorney, not a government, not the police. They aren't the ones that are gona die.
Are you thinking about any legal implications that you might face? I don't know what they might be, but I feel like it's something you should consider outside of just your job. Not saying you shouldn't carry at work though
I'm from Chicago and it is a tough city. Although, this other guy was trying to escalate the situation, people there don't care. you can no longer honk your car horn at them or they'll shoot you dead, no questions asked, even when they are in the wrong, it was the fact that you've honked at them. You can't even look at them in a friendly matter and right away they think you're giving them a dirty look. It happened to me once, when I wasn't giving a dirty look, and the person was looking for problems with me. it's sad, how this world is coming to be.
Good example of why you should never get into street fights, road rages, etc. Just never know if the other party is going to wildly over-react and go for deadly force.
exactly....you have no idea what the mental state the other person is.
That’s what happened in the BJJ community. A highly decorated black belt got a physical altercation with an off duty police officer at a bar and choked him unconscious. The cop wakes up and shoots him in the back of the head killing him.
I really don't like when people say stuff like that. People shouldn't not get into fights with people because they might get shot. People should not get into fights with people because it's the wrong thing to do. If you're so quick to such intense anger that the only thing preventing you from fighting someone is the fact that you might die, you shoudn't be carying a gun because you're not conducing yourself appropriately.
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Well, hello there.
Guy brought a hammer to an argument and then shot someone when they were already down a flight of stairs. When you only have 2 brain cells make sure you use both of them at the same time or stuff like this will happen.
😂😂😂. We’ll said!
É o Tico e o Teco, neste caso ambos estavam ausentes.
@@ScoutsBrasil95 English no Portuguese
Instead of a hammer he should have been carrying a nail gun.
One cell was used for the hammer, the second for the gun.
I'm self employed but had a contractor ask me to sign a code of conduct on their sites. Bottom line says no weapons. I let him know I would not be signing the paperwork because of it. Didn't sign the form and still working for the company as a sub contractor. Always stand up for your rights. Don't sign anything you don't agree with.
you've always been my fave president abe 😙
Don’t listen to this man… you won’t get the job
99.9% if the time WE as business owners have to follow these rules to be INSURED!!
I would hire someone smart enough to SIGN, and still carry “without my knowing (wink)”
I also wouldn’t make someone an employee who is whining before he even starts.
If anyone was self employed it was Abraham fuckin Lincoln.
Fun fact there was actually several carved president faces for Mt Rushmore that were extras and smaller designs. They ended up not being used left in a field abandoned, over the years the rocks have crumbled and weathered one being Abraham Lincolns head with a rock chunk that has fallen off the carving right in the exact location where he was shot in the head by booth.
This man watch me grow up. Crazy to see him give it away like that. Can’t let the city get to you
You knew him?
@@winstonpercpill9166 yeah
@@Hakeem418 Damn...
Is he as stupid in real life as he was in this video?
You can tell he was fed up and just had enough. Doesn't justify going and blasting someone up like that tho,..
He should have just stayed on the ground and got some workers comp🤣
Work smarter not harder💯
Lmfao wtf Flossy Carter in the House!!!!!! Cover my ASP!!!!!
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Keep up the good work floss! What up white shoes!
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This guy is the reason that companies have stupid rules against guns in the first place.
Imagine if there weren't cameras recording it... guy could spin whatever tale he wanted.
Nope. It’s exactly the reason why companies don’t allow guns…. Imagine the outcome for both if he followed the company policy.
Exactly
and as you can see, it worked. 😆
Its incredibly stupid policy to begin with, if your company outright bans the carry and lawful use of personal firearms because of some idiot who was never background tested.
I work for a grocery store and I carry everyday the past 5 years for protection even though my company does not have it written anywhere that I can't carry I never ask never tell anyone. Im constantly aware of what's going on around me and practice my proficiency every 3-4 months but danger can happen anywhere and I feel my safety is more important than a job that will replace me in a heart beat if anything ever happened to me.
Manz carrys a gun too a grocery store lmaoo man.I guess it a W but it's lowkey funny but sad.
@@Neil05 not that funny, if any of the workers at the grocery store in buffalo who got murdered not too long ago were carrying it might have gone different.
@@Neil05 He's probably American. Look up the crime rate with firearms over there. It's fucking mind boggling. I would arm myself too If I was to live in the far west 😂
I carry everywhere, yes that includes at work. If I'm carrying correctly (and I am), no one will ever know it's there unless there's a much larger issue present at that time. Violence can happen anywhere at any time, I'll find a new job if I must, but I will not stop being able to protect myself.
I used to work for CTA as a bus operator. This is in Chicago. As a CCL holder I carried my firearm daily while I drove the buses. Operators were being robbed left and right. Wasn’t gonna become a victim to satisfy a dumb company policy.
Good on you.
Eveyone a thug in chiraq.
CTA, that's who the driver worked for that was shot and killed by the guy trying to pass, recently.
Am I correct?
@@snake_eater71 I’m not sure of that. I do know an operator was shot in the face after he told a passenger to leave the bus at the end of the line. Another was shot after telling a passenger to put on a mask. Operators have been jumped on and assaulted by mobs. Wouldn’t have been me.
Let me explain why this "dumb company policy" exists. It isn't to make you unsafe or strip away your rights, it exists for only 1 reason, and you must accept it if you choose to violate this policy. The reason is: limiting their liability. With this policy in place and actively enforced, if anything happens to anyone because of your firearm, all financial liabilities fall strictly on you, and not them. You agreed to this policy, and that is all they need. Even if something happens and the company is sued, and loses, they will immediately seek financial relief from you. That is just how it works. Good luck going in front of a jury trying to explain that you agreed to follow a policy and then violated it. You have no shot of winning. Then, you are in financial ruin for the rest of your life. That is why this "dumb company policy" exists.
Aggravated assault, but not attempted murder?
They usually give the charge, that is most likely to stick.
@@IIIVI How does that make any sense?
@@alecrochon3531 I mean, men can get pregnant nowadays, so... making sense isn't trendy 🤷♂️
@@alecrochon3531 go get involved in local politics and change it
@@ocean6882 I mean I would but I'm canadian, kinda hard to take any measure here without being taken for a gun nut
I agree. Good lesson. Thank u
Someone stepped up on me once and I said "hey don't be closing the distance on me". When I said that, the guy immediately backed up and stopped. When he heard that phrase, I think it made him think that I knew what I was doing.
@@jasonvoorhees5640 ??
What that mean
@@afarber87 so you didnt give him a bj then?
@@mr.j822 that was my first strategy but he wasn’t interested
@@thegrinchmob5108 to land a punch, someone has to be in punching range. most of the time, when people get sucker punched or in a fight, the aggressor gets in their air space. When people get close, I back up or start scratching my chin, face so I can have my hands up without looking aggressive.
Straight up attempted murder. The guy who pushed the transit worker was justified and needed to walk away or disarm him. Even if you are fearful for your life you can’t really claim defence when you are the initial aggressor with a hammer.
I don't know. The dude in the gray shirt obviously STARTED something off camera, given the backstory we know.. Him being shot while running down the stairs like a COWARD is a prime example of "don't start none & there won't be none." I'd say he deserved something but perhaps not being shot.
@@-Monad- life? Na he might not even do 25 … I say 15 20 years
Did I miss something? I thought ot was the guy on the right who was the original aggressor. That's why the worker came from behind his work station.
@@toddtravis2596 You didn't miss anything! The gray shirt guy IS the original aggressor. He started a situation and wimped out after he pushed the worker down & ran off. He's gonna have to remember that moment for the rest of his life. I bet he won't fuck with anyone else ever again.
@@toddtravis2596 The transit worker armed himself with a hammer over a verbal argument then tried to approach the dude while holding the hammer, so the dude pushed him. The transit worker is the aggressor for bringing out a hammer over a verbal argument. Typically, obviously not always though, the person who poses a physical threat first is seen as the aggressor from my experience unless the dude was threatening to hurt the transit worker. Even then, the transit worker's response by getting a hammer for intimidation, instead of just walking away or calling the cops back, would not make him look good in court. Pulling the gun just sealed his fate.
I counted 11 shots. Am I wrong? Also, thanks for always showing the ETHICS of gun ownership as well as the tactics.
I think it was 12
I counted 12
You are correct 😏
but then recounted...youre right :)
I slowed it down to count, and I'm with you, I heard 11 shots.
I'm so happy you made a video about this! This video is unbelievable
Hey @Active Self Protection carrying concealed in Illinois, one of the prohibited areas is public transit. He was not only carrying against company policy, but he was also breaking Illinois law. 430 ILCS 66/65 a.8.
Aggravated assault? Damn he wanted to kill the guy in vengeance. How about attempted murder in second degree?
He got the felony attempted murder charge now.
@@SI0AX Thanks for the update.
Attempted murder is harder to prove, because it typically involves an extra element (murderous intent) compared to aggravated assault.
Aggravated assault can be proven without proving the intent to kill.
Perfect video for teaching what not to do when you own a firearm.
Maybe some about screening employees better too.
@@RobShuttleworth just because he did this doesn't mean he didn't have a spotless background check
@@Amtcboy I don't think you watched the same video we all did. The victim here isn't a "victim" he's absolutely a victim. You don't get to just mag dump on someone who pushes you over. That's ridiculous. It wasn't super clear in the video whether he pushed him with open hands or closed fists, but what is clear is that it was on his shoulders and the guy didn't have a great center of gravity... so much of the "being pushed over" bits was the worker's own physical fitness and not the push in general.
The guy who got lead poisoning here was clearly leaving the scene, was halfway down the stairs.... so much wrong here.
@@Amtcboy I change my response then. I don't think you know how quotation marks work. Unless you genuinely believe that if you start a fight you aren't the victim if someone shoots you in the face 9 times. Then you're just wrong.
@@Amtcboy “hE dIdNt WaNt tO GeT AwAy”
You’re right, he was assaulting the stairs so this fat dummy had to step in. Attempted murder plain and simple.
Thank you for your words John, so many of us let our ego take control far too much
Why the double standards tho?
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95th Station is about as rough an area as you're going to get in Chicago. I believe it when the story said the "victim" was hassling passengers as well as CTA employees. There's lots of them like that in Chi-town. I know, grew up riding those trains. Employee sacrificed himself to get a perp off the trains.
I like that the lessons are not always about how to use your self defense skills but also when not to. Love it.
Or know that you can always use self defense skills, but know when the situation instantly changes to no longer qualifying as self defense.
Watch closely, you can see the security guard pick up his pace to catch sight of the victim. He wanted death, plain and simple.
Yea he was hurt, and I don’t mean physically. A person in his shape though I can see why he needs a piece to help him out
Yeah he picked up his pace from 1 mph to 1.5 mph lol .
@@markreed2576
Yeah, his ground game was a little rusty.
Not a security guard, the guy is a transit worker
@@edgarrcastillo2464 I stand corrected. Take care fam
I work for a small family owned company. With them knowing I’m a safe and level headed person me carrying is kinda encouraged because some of the places I work at and sometimes I carry large amounts of money from customers. If it’s not allowed I still think people should carry like we have seen many times compliance doesn’t guarantee safety and no company policy is worth loosing my life.
I carried against company policy to one job, it was in a bad neighborhood, a shooting had happened right in the middle of an intersection outside of the employee entrance shortly after i started working there.. my main job there at the time was building maintenance an I was working primarily outside.
I always carried for years against my employer’s policy. I figured my job was a very small price to pay to save my or someone else’s life. Fortunately, never had to use my firearm.
Yeah. If you never say anything no one will ever know you carry and it will never be a problem with the policy, but if you have to use the firearm, I don't really think you would want to stay in the company afterwards anyway.
Everyone should be able to carry unless law enforcement is present thats why i hate buildings that have a no gun sign outside and nothing is stoping you from bringing one in only a good citizen would listen and a criminal with bad intentions could rob and kill everyone.i use to work very early and very late night at different trucking companies and being alone was nerve racking because i could have been mugged at any moment, a locoal home depot truck driver late at night delivering stuff he was shot killed and robbed was unnecessary but criminals always have bad intentions.
Stay safe and always carry police might not get to you in time to help you sometimes you have to protect yourself from these low lifes.
Good on you, I do the same
@@jacob5058 Incorrect. EVERYONE should not be able to carry. Because too many "everyones" are mental midgets like this man. Firearms are deadly weapons. Not everyone has the mental/emotional maturity to handle the responsibility that comes with carrying.
We can’t carry at work but we had a guy who did and a homeowner saw he was carrying called the cops dude didn’t have cc permit and was driving an idot truck with weed in the truck he’s no longer with us 😂
"Ag assault?" wtf? this is attempted murder!! Also, the bystander says "he got his pipe boy!".. this is how people act when theyre ready to witness a murder? fcking ridiculous. has murder become such a regular sight that people in Chicago treat it as a spectator sport? rhetorical question. we all know the answer
@@BACNandEGGS yep. and sad thing is, I was a teen in the 80s and lived in a town where every other person had a gun. either in their truck or on their person. the town was saturated and these things RARELY ever happened. They keep saying we have a "gun problem" but we dont. we have a serious people problem, and a corrosive culture the last 10 years. Everybody plays the victim and nobody takes accountability for ANYTHING they do wrong. Like this transit agent. getting your feelings hurt or being pushed mean someone dies? wtf?
@@flipnap2112 exactly. I recall back when I was in school a bunch of high schoolers even had gun racks in the back window of their trucks & rifles visible , trucks unlocked even! Zero shootings. Granted it was in Arkansas but this was even the late 90s & early 2000s. The teachers parked in the same big parking lot as the high schoolers who drove their trucks. No one even thought twice at all the guns. I mean they didn't bring guns inside the school but the parking lot was right outside the school & gym. It was a much better time.
I've carried at work daily since the day I started there about 10 years ago. Office setting. It used to be prohibited, but that employee manual has long been retired. It is now not written anywhere if it's allowed or not. Several people know I carry, and there are several others that do as well. It just kinda goes unspoken. I did ask one of the company directors once if I was permitted to bring my firearm on a work trip. He didn't care.
I remember this incident. This happened in Chicago at the 95th Red Line Terminal. I believe that this shooting was a terrible shoot, and not justified. But the funny thing is that they were quick to arrest the CTA employee and not give him a cash bond at first, but they have been letting out other criminals for similar acts almost immediately!
it's Chicago this can't possibly shock any Chicago resident anymore after what happens their weekly
People like this are why your rights are always under threat. You guys are so lucky to have so many defensive options but unfortunately insane people will always exist. Hope the worker gets 20+ years and your rights continue to be strongly defended
We don't know what happened at the beginning or why the worker even came out of his area in the first place. I agree that he shouldn't have ended it in this way but this doesn't show how it escalated to get to this point
Wrong. Our rights are under threat because the people in power worship Satan and want to kill us.
Not really, communists are the reason why your rights are under threat
@@jawofajackass4047 most likely were arguing and dude called him the n word lol
I grew up Detroit southwest to be exact. I’ve been carrying guns since 15 I’m 36. I will protect myself no matter what man say. When your so called black you already know you can get locked up or die no Beal deal. I went to my first funeral in the second grade friend got hit with a stray. The dude that shot him just a bitch. I’ve survived two robbery attempts in detroit and nearly missed another one. It’s ways to handle everything the ones with more sense usually live the longest.
He was embarrassed from how he looked getting UP from the push 😂 think I heard him say huuughahh at the same time trying to stand up properly…
That was the most exercise he's done all year
@@BrainFuck10 Lmaoooo 😆
if the color of his skin is green.. he is like a Shrek
Well while he is rotting away in prison he can do a few sit ups and push ups he will have plenty of time for that.
When I was a security guard and I did "unarmed" contracts, I absolutely carried. They were only "unarmed" because the customer was too cheap to pay the extra $5 an hour to make it armed. I love when I showed up to a job only to find out it wasn't anti shoplifting but a disgruntled employee with death threats against the store. Fuck security work, I'm glad I don't do it any more.
I love this chaos. Right up my alley. I hope for more.
I’m a transit worker today’s society has degraded in the twenty plus years I’ve worked, retirement can’t come soon enough. Similar situations like this (aside from the shooting) happen regularly.
@@wtfdtreats could just be correlation, maybe life's just become too good and easy, so people have nothing better to do
Yo he pushed the F@wk out of him 😭
God bless you all and your families 🙏🏽
I ccw-ed while installing at Brinks and ADT home security- regardless of their policy. I went into homes where some were at one time a variety of victims. Even drug dealers secure their homes and video monitor. Sometimes, here in South KCMO, it got scary- bullet holes in walls, paying 1,000$ + on the trunk of a car and attack dogs. Darn right I will continue.
In one class I took the instructor said “your gun is not there to settle arguments.”
Exactly. U ONLY use your gun when your life is in immediate danger, a gun should be your last & or only option & when absolutely necessary. I'm so sick of seeing all these idiots using illegal guns to shoot someone all because they're too big of p*ss-ies to fight like a man 1 on 1 or to just have emotional maturity & control their emotions.
Approaching with a hammer, other dude pushed in self defense. He then left. Attempted murder. Death penalty.
Damn right
Heck, murderers don't even get the death penalty all that often. Attempted murder is, what, 20 years max?
@@asanitationstompout8473 so attempting to murder someone who was defending against someone with a weapon then use a gun to kill you doesn't warrant the death penalty?
He didn’t kill anyone why the hell would he get the death penalty???
He'll be released. This is 2ndndegree attempted murder. SAFE-T act says no cash bail
Gonna be seeing a LOT more of this stuff from Chicago.
I love the title of this vid! 😍
I was a public school custodian and so of course was prohibited from carrying on the job. At one building I was repeatedly called in in the wee hours to reset the glitchy boiler at a building in the middle of crack alley. Once at another building I actually surprised and scared off a burglar while checking out a tripped alarm. In hindsight If I had to do it over again, I would carry in those situations, policy be damned.
Unfortunately in that case it's not just policy. If I'm not mistaking, it's federally illigal to be armed in a school.
@William Burroughs Both my children's schools have an armed ex military officers at their schools every day & the doors are never unlocked aside from pushing the red buttons & you must be buzzed in by someone in the office. But yeah let's not have armed ex military veterans protecting our children - let's make more gun laws or better yet make guns illegal! 🤦🏽♀️ .... because we also all clearly know that places where guns don't exist, it's not like they'd just use bombs instead. But they do exist & the gun laws our politicians come up with are just a flashing sign that says - hey no one else will have a gun here! Hence why so many unhinged people attack schools.
recall back when I was in school a bunch of high schoolers even had gun racks in the back window of their trucks & rifles visible , trucks unlocked even! Zero shootings. Granted it was in Arkansas but this was even the late 90s & early 2000s. The teachers parked in the same big parking lot as the high schoolers who drove their trucks. No one even thought twice at all the guns. I mean they didn't bring guns inside the school but the parking lot was right outside the school & gym. It was a much better time.
@@WarmongerYT sounds like an awesome school having to have armed guards and locked doors
I used to have a horrible temper, once I began carrying my firearm every single day. I learned to let things go. On the road, at home. Wherever I am, I remind myself that people are stupid and no matter how hard you try to beat sense into them
It doesn’t work, they will always be ignorant and stupid.
A good rule of conflict management is to expect things to go wrong. Therefore, you're not that upset when they do.
Yep, and they aren't worth spending your life in prison.
@@Mustang1984 Exactly! Especially since even if you kill or at least rough up someone for being an asshole or even if you're in the wrong, the police got their numbers and their guns after you once you do so.
It may feel cowardly to not shoot when you physically can but ultimately it's the right decision despite hurt egos.
I work for a merchandising company where i drive my personal vehicle to different stores. They say i can't have any weapons or ammo in my own car or on me in stores. Lol, good one.
I’ve carried where it was against policy and I just figured, if I’m doing a good job “concealed carrying” it will never be an issue. I did have a permit though and was within the law, just not company policy.
I find it crazy that you can shoot at someone 9 times, hit them 3 times, and then STILL not be charged with attempted murder. Am I missing a technicality somewhere?
Cause he works for the government -edit he is actually getting charged.. Still don't like the government thought lol
@@mortsdans no because he is black
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"According to authorities, 53-year-old Sylvester Adams is facing two felony charges, including one for *attempted murder,* in connection with the shooting, which took place at approximately 2 a.m. at the 95th Street Red Line station."
@@papimaximus95 let's hope it sticks
When you think someone hurt your feelings so you decide to teach them a lesson by spending twenty years in prison...
*when someone assaults you… fixed it for you… still stupid because he came off as the threat originally but let’s not make it a non physical thing when the video is clearly in front of you.
@@101elelky ok and? U only use a gun when your life is in danger!!!! His life was not in danger at all. He got pushed/shoved. If he wanted to do anything about it he had 2 options = Lay there & call the cops for the other guy to be charged for assault OR get up & use his hands like a man. But instead he chose shooting someone walking away in the back , trying to murder someone all because he got pushed. 🤡🤯
@@WarmongerYT Can’t put your hands on just anybody especially if they ain’t touch you first … you have no idea what they are willing to do to you…. Do you understand life? Or have you been living on east and oblivious mode?
idc about anything you talking about… read what I said… take it in ….. UNDERSTAND the context and go about your day….
@@WarmongerYT “like a man” woman sit down, shut up, and get your feelings out of this. This is reality something I’m afraid you’re not aware of…. The self righteousness doesn’t fly here. People do what they want to do no matter how you think they should’ve handled it…. There’s a little life lesson for you. This why women just need to sit some things out when it comes to topics, reality cares nothing about your personal feelings……so emotionally involved you’re responding to me like I’m defending the guy. Quit yapping !
I work in a fan shop welding and the management n supervisor useto send men providing for their family home and treat them like a number or cattle. Treating skilled tradesmen/ welders like peasant workers. I was convinced someone would come up there as a active shooter. It was a gun free facility but I carried everyday…
John, please do a follow up on this one please 👍🙏
Looked like attempted murder to me??
Indeed. A charge that, if you ask me, shouldn't exist. Attempted murder should be charged as murder. Failing by sheer luck doesn't change what you did.
That man took Transit Security seriously 😂😂
Also my job doesn't key me carry my ccw, BUT I keep it in my truck outside just in case
One place I worked had an official in print policy of no guns at work. The unofficial policy was always carry. One time the GM found out that I had confronted trespassers after hours when I was working late. He called me into the office and said, "Please tell me you were packing when you confronted them!" I assured him I was, and he breathed a sigh of relief. I had never talked with him about it before. I had only been told by a couple of coworkers. I was told by the GM that only a few select people were allowed to carry, I was expected to carry as the facilities maintenance director. This was at a Pacific Northwest ski resort.
No attempted murder charge? The guy was walking away , at that point he’s now the aggressor.
He has a good tan ,people with good tans tend to get away with crazy ship these days
@@dl8619 I thought the same thing! The defense should go for attempted murder. He wasn’t exactly stopping a threat since he was the one with a hammer. Now being pushed like that could hurt or kill someone, but the threat wasn’t there after he got up.
@@dl8619 wrong. Attempted murder has a very low success rate. It is very difficult to prove that a person attempted to murder someone else. Aggravated assault is usually what the crown goes for bc it is far easier to prove and it carries a pretty heavy sentence..
Not everything is about race.
For someone to be charged with attempted murder I believe the prosecution must prove something called "malice aforethought" which is difficult to prove in court from what I gather. I could be wrong though.
@@dl8619 you're a racist, plain and simple, and you don't know anything about how the legal system works.
I would never obey a company telling me I didn't have the right to carry for self defense. But this man went after the other man to shoot him as he was leaving. Definitely aggravated assault! Flush your pride down the toilet!
Aggravated Assault? How is this not murder. You yanks are screwed
@@cjparsons6748 👈😂🥴🤡
@@cjparsons6748 because he didn't die?
@@charlespancamo9771 He's still learning English...
I think he's flushed plenty down the toilet
I work for SEPTA which is essentially the same job he has but septa is for southeastern PA but im in Philadelphia and i don't blame some of the booth workers and cleaners who conceal carry in certain areas of this city that don't feel safe even if it's against policy
I've worked in multiple hospitals in multiple states. It was against hospital policy in all of them to have a gun on hospital property. The last hospital I worked at had a locked psyche unit in the hospital. It was against Washington State Law to carry a gun on hospital property because of the psyche unit.
So do they not charge people for attempted murder anymore?
Only if the victim is a black guy
"According to authorities, 53-year-old Sylvester Adams is facing two felony charges, including one for *attempted murder,* in connection with the shooting, which took place at approximately 2 a.m. at the 95th Street Red Line station."
@@mikesame8321 "Woke court looking out for criminals and all"
🥱🤦♂🤦♀🤦
When u gain enough confidence in ur self-defense skills, u r less likely to engage in ego battles. But when u r an insecure little coward, it's almost inevitable that u will try to prove something.
@Leatherface is there any mention of either one of them?
It's a general rule.
To be fair training helps you react better . If you have an ego you tend to use tour training for the wrong reasons. All dependent on the person and their training
Id love for you to take it a step further and elaborate how a CC holder watching this unfold in person should react. I dont want to insert myself into any unnecessary situations, but if your standing there watching this go down, as someone carrying what would you personally have done? Its clearly not a deadly threat from the man in grey but now its turned to a deadly threat from the worker once he raises that gun. Just an interesting topic/scenario to cover.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure it actually is illegal to carry in CTA trains/train stops, something I was told when I took my ccl class
I always carry even if my company says no. No amount of money is worth your life.
In Chicago, I always carry against company policy.
On carrying against company policy: I will lose my job before I lose my life, and like Coach Klein said in The Waterboy "What momma don't know won't hurt her"
Great video
My grandpa always said…” what makes you a man is not carrying a gun is knowing why and when to use it that makes you a man”. R.I.P. Grandpa Kiko
Rip
Guns don’t make you a man at all. Silly saying makes no sense
@@Silenciobob you didn't get grandpa's perspective.
@@mikesame8321 😂😂😂
@@mikesame8321 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Self defense is always right. But this isn't self defence.
No it's self DFens.
The open hand technique was a good option if someone has a hammer and is slowly walking up to you in that stance.
Sheesh you been having bangers latterly John
I’m surprised he wasn’t charged with attempted murder
Carrying against policy is necessary, don’t get caught, nothing less than your life is at stake
"According to authorities, 53-year-old Sylvester Adams is facing two felony charges, including one for *attempted murder,* in connection with the shooting, which took place at approximately 2 a.m. at the 95th Street Red Line station."
@@papimaximus95 good that guy was way to
Impulsive and insecure to be reacting like that.
If you feel carrying against policy is "necessary," but you need to in order to feel safe, you need a new job.
But I feel like most people saying this are desk jockeys in cubicles. Not night shift cashiers and such.
@@gurkagurkadurka6688 that's thr dumbest take I've ever read. Every single job should allow you to protect yourself with a firearm because problems happen everywhere
@@gurkagurkadurka6688 Literally doesn't matter what job you have, you either have the means to defend yourself against a variety of possible threats at any given time or you don't. I wonder if you'll change your tune when you realize that you can be professional bunny rabbit trainer and still die violently to a random psychopath just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Now that's top flight security Craig!!
Lmfao 😂🤣
Where he was carrying was illegal in Illinois also. ALL transit and public transportation properties are "prohibited zones".
Big payday coming for the wounded man. All hospital bills paid by Transit and a ton of money for the victim and his lawyer. Transit Security was completely in the wrong.
Never assume someone is unarmed.
Here’s a better question.
Do you carry in states your CCW is not covered under. ie, CA or Colorado.
I do. I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 any day.
Wow, that sedentary life really shows; transit worker took calendar days to get back up.
"The world is not coming to an end, you must learn to cope!"
Mr. Berger
7th grade science teacher
How right he was
scumbag who shot my son was charged with aggravated assault, 40 year's.
Sorry about your son. Is he ok? Glad his attacker at least got 40 years.
@@normtheteacher5485 he is doing better. Still a process to forgive an move on.
@@dragonrider9051 good to hear he is doing better. I wish upon you and your son the very best. I carry and hunt for evil perpetrators like your son's attacker. I will continue to do so and will think of you and your son as I do.
When it comes to company policy I believe preservation of life comes first. Whether it be yours or mine.
I work from home now, but when I use to drive to an office and sit in a cubicle I was armed 100 percent. Company had a strict "no firearm" policy. I figured the only way they would ever know I was armed is if somebody came in and started shooting up the place. In that scenario I'd just assume be armed and able to defend myself and my co-workers even if I get fired afterwards.
HR professional of 20+ years. Majority of places I've worked/consulted have had a 'no firearms' policy as part of their handbook. Some, as permitted by state, include not allowed in employee's vehicles while on company property. NOT that the employer is second 2A, but they don't want to take on the liability should something occur.
Fuck HR.
I worked for the USDOJ after retiring from active LE where carrying a gun into the building/office was a firing offense. It was a good job that took me awhile to land so I did not carry during work hours, not worth the risk. I’m fully retired now, do as I please, so pretty much carry any time I leave the house.
John we had this exact situation happen at my work Friday night in our parking lot. I won’t share much because it is being investigated but I’ve already been cleared and justified for my actions. Keep these videos going and keep educating people. Thank you
As if anyone gives a shit bucko
If I had a reaction like this I know 100% I would be spending the rest of my life in prison this guy will be out in 5 years with the lack of charges they brought on him, incredible!!!!
No attempted murder ?
It's Chicago the DA/prosecutors are super liberal it would be too oppressive to that gun man to give him attempted murder.
I carry, even though my company's policy says not to even have it in my car on the property. You never know what could happen, and I'd rather lose my job than my life.
The love is to focus on what you set out to do.
Seek positivity/beauty/constructivism.
Avoid tension.
Tension is the enemy.
Smile & keep moving.
How long does agitation really last?
A few seconds, maybe 1/2 hr???
Let it decay & get to baseline.
Sound advise as usual JC. Ps, I counted 11 shots.
Carrying against company policy I don’t care about. Shooting someone who is no longer a threat is ego driven revenge and is criminal. A moment of stupidity has impacted their lives and that of their families. A sad outcome for all.
Damn he should’ve kept pushing him over
My experience is always ask for forgiveness instead of permission, guys like this is the #1 reason I carry
These days in NYC the transit worker was probably home for dinner!
The man made a big mistake by not completely incapacitating the worker and ending the threat when he had the chance. Ended up letting a man off easy who obviously would not do that for you. Prayers for a speedy recovery
No he made a big mistake by engaging multiple times. He has plenty of space and time to remove himself from the situation.
Sane, Sober, Moral, and Prudent - we need all 4 of these!!
The Rules of Smart
I work in a drug and alcohol rehabilitation center/detox as a counselor. It is company policy not to allow any employees to carry any weapons (guns/ knives/ OC spray/ ankle med kit, ect). Despite the policy, I carry everything every day. That’s just my experience and preference. I would rather be fired than something worse happen. Again just my experience, and after almost 7 years nobody has ever noticed what I carry 🤷🏻♂️
That camera man has just as good aim as the transit worker
Glad the cameraman felt getting the shot was more important than preventing the shot. Good grief.
I have carried covertly on jobs that didn't permit it, I can live thru being fired and a job hunt.
No one can tell me I am not allowed to defend myself.
Right. When it comes to defending one's life, that person makes the rules. Not an employer, not a District Attorney, not a government, not the police. They aren't the ones that are gona die.
Are you thinking about any legal implications that you might face? I don't know what they might be, but I feel like it's something you should consider outside of just your job. Not saying you shouldn't carry at work though
The company only cares about their liability aftermath. Really they probably don't want to know what's tucked under your shirt.
@@FCNG2424 agreed it's always a cost vs risk. It varied by situation.
@@GS-zc4sk I actually had an agreement with a few bosses/owners that if something went down they and I would deny their knowledge.
I'm from Chicago and it is a tough city. Although, this other guy was trying to escalate the situation, people there don't care. you can no longer honk your car horn at them or they'll shoot you dead, no questions asked, even when they are in the wrong, it was the fact that you've honked at them. You can't even look at them in a friendly matter and right away they think you're giving them a dirty look. It happened to me once, when I wasn't giving a dirty look, and the person was looking for problems with me. it's sad, how this world is coming to be.
Hammer time
My company will never know I carry in the office unless I need it one day. If that happens, I'm just hoping it won't matter if it saved lives.
@@gschaaf713 If I get fired, but I’m still alive, I’ll take it.