How-To Predator 212: Step-by-Step Governor Removal

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  • Step-by-step governor and low oil sensor removal tutorial from a Predator 212.
    Front Runner Karting LLC is a go-kart racing parts, safety equipment and accessories business located in Ocean Springs, Mississippi. Please visit us on Facebook and Instagram @FrontRunnerKartingLLC
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  • @justforfunphotography01
    @justforfunphotography01 4 года назад +57

    Finally! A thorough video with torque specs and all! Great job.

    • @E36_kidd
      @E36_kidd 3 года назад +4

      Yeah but you don’t need to take the cam or piston out

    • @KCUF-ALL-FAKEPEOPLE-FRODO
      @KCUF-ALL-FAKEPEOPLE-FRODO 8 месяцев назад

      That's what I was saying you did a little way overly complicated bro there was a few too many steps in there that were unnecessary and the average person nowadays would try to attempt or duplicate what you did and completely just s*** show it and Destroy and ruin their engine and then they would be trying to blame you for doing it because they watched your video on how you did it and they tried to duplicate it and work competent enough to doing like that now they're mad and butthurt that they were too stupid to not realize that they weren't smart enough to do it that way and they would begin with but in all reality it didn't need to be done that way regardless because like I said you can really just pull out the side where the gear shaft is and put a little ride out and put the plate back on and fill a hole in your done or you in a little washer but yeah he did way too much for the same results you get was about 50 or so less steps ​@@E36_kidd

  • @Junior-qk4iw
    @Junior-qk4iw 10 месяцев назад +6

    He even showing you how to put it back together this is great

  • @bigmak984
    @bigmak984 Год назад +16

    My buddy and I are building a 212 for a minibike and this helped me out a lot, thanks!

  • @jeffkenel870
    @jeffkenel870 4 года назад +21

    This was a great step by step video! Thanks for taking the time to put this one together for us beginners.

  • @AntheniumX
    @AntheniumX 17 дней назад

    Probably the best step-by-step of the process I've seen. However I still got hung up at the replacement bolts part w/ gov out. I have zero clue working on engines, but looking around I ended up getting a bolt and washer slightly bigger than the original governor pin hole and force threaded it in to the block. Zero issues. I cut down and re-used the top pin for the throttle plate.

  • @ibdaffy
    @ibdaffy 4 года назад +13

    I am so glad I found your video. This is, by far, the best and most complete video on this subject! Red Beard and the others could learn from you! Thank you for taking the time and energy to share with us! I liked and subscribed and now I need to watch your other videos! Again, thank you!!!

    • @ibdaffy
      @ibdaffy 4 года назад

      I went to check out your other videos...to my chagrin, there are none! What gives?

    • @Nopitunertv
      @Nopitunertv 2 года назад

      you're comparing a step by step removal of an engine component vs go Karting channels.

  • @LNRRidez
    @LNRRidez 4 года назад +66

    Why did you take the gear off the crankshaft? This is by far the best video I have ever seen on how to remove the governor, better than Red Beards, Cars and Cameras etc

    • @frontrunnerkartingllc7392
      @frontrunnerkartingllc7392  4 года назад +16

      LNR Ridez WOW, thank you for that compliment. I really appreciate it. I have a valve lash and valve lapping video in the editor, I just have to finish them up. Haven’t had much time between work and family to sit down and do it. Thank you again for your support.

    • @frontrunnerkartingllc7392
      @frontrunnerkartingllc7392  4 года назад +15

      LNR Ridez I remove the gear on the crankshaft because it will slightly reduce the rotational weight of the crankshaft and mostly because I’m taking the crankshaft out anyways, so I might as well just remove it.

    • @grumpysteelman
      @grumpysteelman 3 года назад +4

      Plus anything you don’t need in there that might fail could blow the motor up

    • @MrPatrickStephenson
      @MrPatrickStephenson 3 года назад

      How do you tap a screw? And what size screws did you use?

    • @mathewshackelford8037
      @mathewshackelford8037 2 года назад +2

      @@MrPatrickStephenson 1/4-20 or 1/4-24.

  • @anthonycarp7099
    @anthonycarp7099 Год назад +1

    I’ve been doing this for 5 days now. I hate motors but thanks for the video because it’s helping me

  • @redearedslider321
    @redearedslider321 4 года назад +4

    Finally a video that shows exactly the right way of doing it

  • @clowrey8427
    @clowrey8427 Год назад +1

    The best teachers do not have to speak. TY

  • @jameslamberson9313
    @jameslamberson9313 7 месяцев назад

    dude did this in my room upstairs so simple youre a hell of a person

  • @usamac4108
    @usamac4108 3 года назад +6

    This is a fantastic guide and very well done! Thank you!

  • @MechInvent
    @MechInvent Год назад +1

    Oh wow, you even have torque call outs. Bravo

  • @andrewgiron348
    @andrewgiron348 2 года назад +3

    thanks so much nice video! first time ever opening a 212, but this video gave me confidence and job well done 👍

  • @MadTuning01
    @MadTuning01 2 года назад +4

    Amazing guide !! Quick, Simple, Clear!

  • @josephboatman5819
    @josephboatman5819 Год назад +1

    Hey man thanks a lot!! Took me 30 minutes to find the video I needed to actually help me thanks to you 👌

  • @countryboylife5darlowe391
    @countryboylife5darlowe391 Год назад +1

    I’ve watched other videos on removing the governor and it was very quick but with less removal but ur video is in better details awesome man and thanks for your time! Hopefully I don’t jack it up lol

  • @bdubz1248
    @bdubz1248 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for making this as simple as possible for us👌😮‍💨

  • @JBBRAD9267
    @JBBRAD9267 2 года назад

    This video should have 1 million views

  • @user-tg8nx4vu1l
    @user-tg8nx4vu1l 7 месяцев назад +1

    ان مبتدء في هذا المجال وكنت دائما اقول في نفسي لمذا هذا الترس وما اهميته ولماذا لاانزعه باالمرة شكرا لك على هذا الفديو وعلى جهدك

  • @typicalendurorider8016
    @typicalendurorider8016 Год назад

    Brilliant! I never thought about punching it out!

  • @cnsmotorsports
    @cnsmotorsports 11 месяцев назад +3

    What size taps? And what size bolts to fill the holes?

  • @jt1454
    @jt1454 5 месяцев назад

    Thanx for the video! I just needed to know which way to turn the governor shaft when setting the static adjustment!!!

  • @crispy7977
    @crispy7977 3 года назад +5

    can someone explain what to do with the throttle linkage that was where he put that bolt in at 9:31

  • @looshskadoosh2369
    @looshskadoosh2369 3 года назад +3

    What size bolts did they thread into the hole for the governor and oil shutoff? I'm looking to remove my governor and oil shutoff but I want to have the correct bolts and tools before I start tearing my motor apart?

  • @SaeedFlores-wt1ij
    @SaeedFlores-wt1ij Месяц назад

    Thanks man I’m finally ripping

  • @335iDom
    @335iDom 2 года назад +8

    What sized bolt was used to block off where the governor was?

  • @ryeguy88
    @ryeguy88 2 года назад +9

    What are your thoughts on keeping the stock flywheel if you remove the governor? Seems like a lot of people are paranoid about it not handing more than 4k rpms. I put a stage one on my predator and I'm using the zip tie method for now just because I wasn't aware that gov removal implied needing to replace the flywheel and springs... I figure its safe enough.

    • @jaydenv8295
      @jaydenv8295 2 года назад +3

      stock flywheel should be fine removing the governor but atleast 18lb valve springs should be put in to be safe

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 Год назад +2

      @@jaydenv8295 🤣🤣🤣

  • @sairamareddy6812
    @sairamareddy6812 Год назад +1

    Thank u so much. From india

  • @allovruracing9404
    @allovruracing9404 9 месяцев назад

    Best video out there on this! Thanks so much!

  • @Sk0m0
    @Sk0m0 4 года назад +5

    This is a great video so many people can learn from you. Now I'm not nervous about getting an engine ready for racing. Do you have any intentions on making any other videos? Like how to install a top plate and pulse pump or anything like that?

  • @BrucesShop
    @BrucesShop 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks brother. I tried everything but a punch to push he gov shaft out from the other side 7:03. That did it I have done a lot of Tecumseh's but this is my first clone Thanks subbed

  • @billhuntington5163
    @billhuntington5163 Год назад

    Best video I've seen on this topic. Thanks!

  • @Wavydavy559
    @Wavydavy559 3 года назад

    This was a excellent video awesome job on the editing and detail can’t thank you enough helped me greatly all the other videos are a little bit bad

  • @that_Vnstr
    @that_Vnstr Год назад

    Favoriting this so that I can do it when I get my 212 and minibike

  • @chrisb9350
    @chrisb9350 8 месяцев назад

    Same process I use. Except I remove the oil sensor bolt and assembly as well.

  • @davidjames2788
    @davidjames2788 2 года назад

    Fantastic coverage here, you made a great video!

  • @izzynunez3334
    @izzynunez3334 22 дня назад

    question i hope i can get a response because i am currently making some repairs on the mini bike i have and and i need to replace the crank shaft and when u put in the crankshaft did u had to check your valve lashes when u reinstalled the crankshaft

  • @mrpurpletux7419
    @mrpurpletux7419 Год назад +1

    shoulda watched this...😂🤣🥲😅 I just took the external governor off my used 212 with an amazon carb and it was a beast... until the little pin holding the part on the internal governor at 6:03 rattled off my engine while riding and the little flappy spinny boi turned into a crunchy boi and the engine turned to a rock..🤣😂 i shoulda done my research lol

  • @austinporter7108
    @austinporter7108 25 дней назад

    At 2:00 you take that little rod off of the carb how do you re-attatch that arm/spring after you have taken that L shaped piece out?

  • @nelsonmiller8179
    @nelsonmiller8179 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, but I had to give a thumbs down for not replacing the piston rod and flywheel.

  • @mikey1668
    @mikey1668 2 года назад +2

    What about throttle linkage?

  • @josephluera9939
    @josephluera9939 2 года назад +1

    Im stuck on the part where you tap it with the hammer mine will not come off i did everytging step by step

  • @olivermartineztma8158
    @olivermartineztma8158 Год назад +1

    what is the torque of the internal screws of the engine head?
    I want to change the gaskets and I need to disassemble everything
    Please help

  • @swervin212
    @swervin212 Год назад

    Going to attempt to take mine off tomorrow,not enough power for me to get gone when I need to,but hopefully I don't mess up nothing wish me luck 😅

  • @alaghazi5783
    @alaghazi5783 2 года назад +1

    Why did you remove the two pieces from inside the engine, the oil pump and the gear piece?

  • @amack1970
    @amack1970 3 года назад +4

    When you remove the gear off the crank to the govenor, should you install a shim in its place? I just pulled the gear off my motor and noticed the crank has a little more right to left horizontal movement. Thoughts?

    • @JBBRAD9267
      @JBBRAD9267 2 года назад

      What ever happened? I don't think the gear was acting as a shim

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 Год назад

      There's no need for a shim. The crankshaft bottoms into the bearing, not the drive gear.

  • @doncook5221
    @doncook5221 Год назад

    Great video. This will surely help me......Thanks....

  • @ziggybammurphy1645
    @ziggybammurphy1645 4 года назад +5

    So how important is it to change the connecting rod and flywheel to a billet one after removing the govenor? Ive seen some do it and some just leave the stock stuff in...i get plastic vs metal, but how did/does this enginr hold up without it?

    • @SuitedMoose
      @SuitedMoose 2 года назад +1

      Pretty important if you don't want stuff flying through your seat, and killing the engine.

    • @Mark-vi6cg
      @Mark-vi6cg Год назад

      I know this is an old question, but maybe someone will find it useful later. It really depends on your application. The governor will limit your RPM to around 3600 (they vary some). The next limiting factor in most of these engines is the valve spring weight. OEM springs usually limit the RPM to around 4800 before the valves start to "float". Up to that point, my opinion is that the OEM flywheel and rod are probably fine. If you take the next step and upgrade the valve springs, the limiting factor is likely just your gearing and wheel size. At that point, once you exceed 5k regularly, you really need to replace that flywheel.

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 Год назад

      @@Mark-vi6cg In my opinion what he did in the video is what amateurs do. Guys who know what they are doing take it a few steps further no matter what RPM is being turned. Governor removal should only be done during an engine build that will include parts that can handle high RPM operation.

  • @HearMeLoudNclear
    @HearMeLoudNclear Год назад +3

    What did you do with the throttle and all the springs and other stuff you removed from the top?

  • @juanrosas6961
    @juanrosas6961 2 года назад +1

    When you tightened those 2 screws on the crank shaft what pounds did you have it on for your wrench

  • @madchanicsgarage2969
    @madchanicsgarage2969 3 года назад +1

    Its a lot easier and faster to just cut off the governor arm that has the bend in it and tap it down. It'll fall down into the engine so then just pull it out and flip it over and insert back into the hole from the top. Now you've plugged the hole so no oil leaks out. The gas tank will sit on top and keep the arm from coming out. No need to even find a bolt that will screw in.

    • @turtlesoriginal
      @turtlesoriginal Год назад

      What did you use to cut the arm?

    • @KCUF-ALL-FAKEPEOPLE-FRODO
      @KCUF-ALL-FAKEPEOPLE-FRODO 8 месяцев назад

      My thoughts and opinions exactly bro exactly what you just said but didn't know how much I felt about confidence-wise but now seeing your Comet post whatever you want to call it makes me feel 110% better cuz I swear I thought to myself could I just do it this way but there's always that what if in the back of your mind you know what I'm saying but now I'm just going to go ahead and do it the way you said it because that's what I thought to myself first time I looked at the whole situation and watched a few other videos but thanks again for your second opinion second opinion always helps in my opinion LOL

  • @rottiejakeluke
    @rottiejakeluke 3 года назад +2

    I know you going to think, and so will others reading this, but what does removing the governor do? Is it just getting more power? How’s that effect the longevity of the motor? Surely it voids the warranty, but is it better to do immediately before using the engine? Do you know of anyone in the Boulder Colorado area who will do this work? Thank for any help you can offer.

    • @SuitedMoose
      @SuitedMoose 2 года назад +1

      It will allow higher RPMs, but if you don't want the motor blowing up, get a billet flywheel and rod.

  • @Ayixlia
    @Ayixlia Год назад +1

    PROFESSIONAL

  • @mattisspicy7502
    @mattisspicy7502 Год назад

    Best video ever thank you so much

  • @theculture9406
    @theculture9406 2 года назад +1

    Now you have to show us how to hook the stock throttle assembly back up in case we don't wanna use a dirt bike carb.. 🤔

  • @lesscloutmoreclouds
    @lesscloutmoreclouds 2 года назад +1

    great video but why didnt you start the engine at the end to prove it actually worked

  • @brians3320
    @brians3320 Год назад

    Great video, Thanks

  • @xaviermccloud4586
    @xaviermccloud4586 3 года назад +3

    What length bolts did you use in the holes you tapped and what type? I know they had to be 1/4-20.

  • @someoneoranother7517
    @someoneoranother7517 5 лет назад +1

    Great Video, thanks!

  • @curquilla161
    @curquilla161 Год назад +1

    I followed your video to the t and my engine still blew out I never seen you put in the oil so I never did it and that alone seized it

    • @seanfleming3200
      @seanfleming3200 8 месяцев назад

      bro i don’t wanna be mean and im sorry for your loss, but that’s a user error. drain oil, add oil the thing doesn’t run on hopes and dreams sadly but you do give a good point, shoulda showed that you need to ADD oil to an empty engine.

  • @noahechols4118
    @noahechols4118 2 года назад

    Your doing the most… but still a good video

  • @calvingrinds5818
    @calvingrinds5818 3 года назад +1

    hey does anyone know how he tapped the holes without a tap? he just put the bolt straight in

    • @DesertVader
      @DesertVader 3 года назад

      On mine I used 1/4” 20 NC, worked perfect.

  • @basquiattv1057
    @basquiattv1057 3 года назад +1

    Great vid

  • @bajaspacebandit6127
    @bajaspacebandit6127 3 года назад +6

    6:02 is when he pulls the governor out btw !

  • @jasondaniels6958
    @jasondaniels6958 4 года назад +3

    Thanks bud. Very good video. What size tap did you use for the holes in the block?

    • @frontrunnerkartingllc7392
      @frontrunnerkartingllc7392  4 года назад

      Jason Daniels 1/4” - 24. I’ve also used a 20 thread pitch depending on the bolts I have in hand, so which ever thread pitch the bolts you have are.

    • @imtrolling5059
      @imtrolling5059 4 года назад

      Front Runner Karting LLC would a self-tapping screw do the job?

    • @youngchap4941
      @youngchap4941 4 года назад +1

      @@imtrolling5059 yes

  • @JaxenCarr-cc3ke
    @JaxenCarr-cc3ke 7 месяцев назад

    Dont you have to put a cast aluminum flywheel when you remove the governor

  • @Lynxhmob702
    @Lynxhmob702 2 месяца назад

    What size screws did you use to fill the holes?

  • @bajaspacebandit6127
    @bajaspacebandit6127 3 года назад +3

    I just did all this and it wouldn’t start back up fml

  • @423alonso
    @423alonso 3 года назад

    Awesome video thank you God bless...

  • @mnaim3694
    @mnaim3694 3 года назад

    Nice step by step.. Keep it up man!

  • @tilvalhalla9343
    @tilvalhalla9343 4 года назад +1

    do you have a video of how to connect the preadtor 212cc to power the lights on a coleman bt200x

    • @ninoreeves7702
      @ninoreeves7702 3 года назад

      the predator 212 doesn't have any charging coils to do this stock. i have seen them converted however....

  • @skipchernoff2487
    @skipchernoff2487 3 года назад

    Excellent video ...Bravo!

  • @cbd4734
    @cbd4734 3 года назад +1

    Just how much does this affect the power output of the engine? (I just bought a go cart, and he told me he removed the governor inside. Wasn't quite sure what he was talking about, but the video explains it.)

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 Год назад

      Power output depends on what else is done to the engine. If you get a brand new engine and remove the governor and do nothing else it will spin higher than stock RPM but power output will start dropping off after a certain RPM as it leans out.

  • @GingerAvenger605
    @GingerAvenger605 11 месяцев назад

    What was it that you cut the wire inside the engine and removed? But left the other half in the block

  • @ravenracing797
    @ravenracing797 2 года назад +1

    Is there a performance advantage to taking the crank gear off or is it more of a just in case so it doesn't fall off

    • @mathewshackelford8037
      @mathewshackelford8037 2 года назад +1

      it won't just fall off, I mean you saw him beating on it to get it off of there. It's pressed on the shaft and wedged against the housing. It's not going anywhere. It's simply just to remove unnecessary rotating weight. with a stock cam/rod/piston, it might free up a little power but not likely as noticeable as just removing the governor itself.

  • @starzanhorse4758
    @starzanhorse4758 2 года назад

    I pulled the spring and used a zip tie. Took 5 seconds. 😂 same effect

  • @jerrodbouchard
    @jerrodbouchard 4 года назад +1

    Got any torque valvues for the two black bolts connecting the cam shaft and piston?

  • @LNRRidez
    @LNRRidez 3 года назад +2

    So what happened to that other video on the valve lash & lapping?

    • @nayybe
      @nayybe 3 года назад +2

      We want the video!! Lol

  • @Gabrielm_805
    @Gabrielm_805 2 года назад +1

    I followed every single thing in this video and I got rod knock

  • @rockets4fun6996
    @rockets4fun6996 Год назад

    What bolts do u need for the top hole and the hole where the governor gear was

  • @YenHittah
    @YenHittah Год назад

    My bike wont start because i took that timing gear out I should've never did that now ima put it back then try again

  • @Tuesdaysgonewtw
    @Tuesdaysgonewtw 18 дней назад

    Hello----did you actually tap the block or just let the bolts self tap into the aluminum? Thank you.

  • @stonerzz1
    @stonerzz1 Год назад

    So I'm thinking about putting one of these in an e-tron Viper 90 I ended up getting it for a lawn mower I was selling that I fixed he gave me 40 bucks and the Viper with a blown motor I'm not too familiar with these Predator Motors but everybody keeps telling me to put a 212 in it is that something complicated to do

  • @zackb6045
    @zackb6045 3 года назад +2

    Of course he didn’t show how to hook throttle linkage up afterwards

  • @GabrielCintra
    @GabrielCintra 2 года назад

    great video

  • @gustavotop6435
    @gustavotop6435 3 года назад

    Thank u so much good ideas......

  • @wingracing8836
    @wingracing8836 2 года назад

    Great job!

  • @beastnsuwoop9974
    @beastnsuwoop9974 3 года назад

    Great video btw thank you I appreciate it

  • @Dhldakram5
    @Dhldakram5 3 года назад

    Screw that, I just use a piece of wire and tie back the governor! Works great and I don’t need to split the case!

    • @eighthguy6744
      @eighthguy6744 3 года назад +1

      If you do that the governor gear has a high chance of breaking in the engine. It's plastic

  • @youngchap4941
    @youngchap4941 4 года назад

    by far the best video i just wished you showed how to tapp the hole and like what size bolt to use
    other i think its a 1/4 im just wondering what kind of washer i need and nuts for it also and maybe some red loctite

    • @frontrunnerkartingllc7392
      @frontrunnerkartingllc7392  4 года назад +1

      I use 1/4” Allen head bolts. A half-inch long bolt for the side (under the flywheel) and a 2 inch for the top hole. I don’t use washers and I do use loctite.

    • @youngchap4941
      @youngchap4941 4 года назад

      @@frontrunnerkartingllc7392 ty i did it yesterday i used a 1/4 and a washer i got from taking the governor off and some red loctite now i just gotta set my valve lash i think its 003 005 it can be anything for anybody i guuess i will just have to keep trying also i used red rtv and i think im getting no compression i only let it seal for like 7 hours and then put oil in i was in a rush

    • @Theboywen
      @Theboywen 4 года назад

      Front Runner Karting LLC Did you tap bolt in, or did you just tighten it down an let it thread itself?

  • @allenwalker5033
    @allenwalker5033 2 года назад

    So I basically did this step-by-step and now I have the issue where when I torque down the flywheel the engine does not turn over what did I do wrong please help 🆘

  • @SamSuleksSon69
    @SamSuleksSon69 4 месяца назад

    What size bolt for the governor hole?

  • @dspirop7949
    @dspirop7949 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @austheory
    @austheory 2 года назад

    I don't get it, where is the part where you re-install the speed control arm and the springs?

  • @austinporter7108
    @austinporter7108 27 дней назад

    Is this the same for the ducar 212?

  • @charlessvatora5178
    @charlessvatora5178 22 дня назад

    Do I need a upgraded fly wheel

  • @HALALxSTEPPA
    @HALALxSTEPPA 6 месяцев назад

    I can’t get the fly wheel bolt out I don’t have a impact gun this is so depressing

  • @jaybowden9340
    @jaybowden9340 3 года назад +1

    This was a great video! How do you hook the throttle back up though? Because I though the governor arm was directly connected to the throttle?

    • @donovinpriest2374
      @donovinpriest2374 3 года назад

      Thats what im saying

    • @justbuilds8248
      @justbuilds8248 2 года назад +3

      @@donovinpriest2374 put a mikuni

    • @juliancuevasiii8449
      @juliancuevasiii8449 Год назад

      How did u figure out how to fix it?

    • @juliancuevasiii8449
      @juliancuevasiii8449 Год назад

      @@justbuilds8248is there any other way to fix it?

    • @wolfman6553
      @wolfman6553 11 месяцев назад

      Duct tape the throttle cable to your gas tank and run the cable into the arm using self tappers

  • @69wagon1
    @69wagon1 25 дней назад

    What size bolts did you use?