I am an exbow builder in the hobby category that age creeped up on. I really appreciate the way you present yourself. You probably have made more bows than I ? I had failures and sucesses the same as you. You are representing your making and breaking bows fairly. I respect that quality in a person! It is called being honest. Thanks for the videos ,I watch them and smile as I see myself in you at times!
If you think you may want to use dog-chew rawhide again I'd suggest reading up on the process of parchment making. Parchment and vellum are prepared from sheep and calf skins, and the techniques of working with the material will certainly translate to preparing rawhide for bow backing. The skins are made flat for writing by stretching them on a frame. This keeps them taut while they are drying. I think that it would help if you built some sort of frame or jig that would stretch the hide while wet and allow it to dry flat. At the least it would make it easier to work with. Also, you might try using hide glue. As it is prepared from the skin of animals it might be more compatible with rawhide. Just some notions.
@@Diobrando-ib7tf If you wanted to take it as that extreme version of an entirely bamboo bow then you could braid together some bamboo cord. Won't be as fast as dacron, but I reckon it'd be do-able. I know some people use yucca cord for primitive bows.
@@stevepopple3396 i think there was something about the bamboo having a natural taper that was why they made a particular style of bow. It still works but that would probably prevent you from making a normal european bow
@@joeasher2876 Some south American aswell as pacific bows have a very thin, flat strip of bamboo with the skin still on, as a bow string. On both tips of the "string", they make a series of notches along a length of maybe 5 or so inches, then braid rattan in a way to form an actual cord of maybe 10 inches, which form the ACTUAL tips of the string, then tie loops. They most often use really long, non fletched, no nocked arrows out of a light reed with large bamboo or bone arrowheads (more like small javelin heads). For this they use a form of the pinch draw, with a curled forefinger and thumb lightly gripping the arrow, while the three fingers are under pulling the string
Hi Kramer- Just wanted to say I really appreciate you showing your failures. That's a huge part of the process and it's great that you show how much it sucks, only to turn around and try all over again. I made my first bow based off your tutorials during this quarantine! And then tried to do it again and snapped the second bow on the tillering tree (tillering table, lol). Thanks for you demos, and thanks for the honesty. -Brice
I love the series. When experimenting with something it is always important to limit the variables though. If you want to test dog bone rawhide use known wood and glue to eliminate those as variables. Now there is the big question on whether the rawhide is good or contributed to the first failure. I still love the series and your energy though so please keep doing these.
I agree with you. For this, it seems the epay is an unknown, as a single. Piece for the wood. The backing is an unknown. And the glue is an unknown. This would suggest, that Kramer would need to compare some bare epay Bows...then test a couple backed with his known backing, and glue. Then test with known backing but alternate glue. Then test with known glue but the unknown backing. And finally, compare the full variable combo, with the new backing new glue and new wood. But, that's a lot of Bows.
As a bow builder my hats off to you for not going crazy after building that bow cuz it's not a short or easy process it really is like makeing a baby an soon as it's born it dies an that's really how I fill win a bow is broken but I might just love it to much lol
Great Idea! I can also recommend to prestressed the wood before applying the raw hide to the back. Prestressing is done by bending the bow into a reflex and fix it somehow in place until the glue is dry. Best Regards
Saw this suggestion on a old forum yesterday. My first board bow had cracking noises at around 40LB (half tillered). They said it was probably the wood glue separating from the fiber glass. I was using Le-page cause my store was out of titebond. Bow still draws at 30lb but cant pull more. I saw the post about the dog bone for raw hide and thought I would try that next. Thanks for making a conveniently timed video lol
Kramer, you must know this, but if you position the bow so it hooks on front of your left ankle and behind your right knee you won't have the end of the bow touching the ground. I know it wasn't end of bow that broke but what I've explained is how I was shown when I was a kid. Love your show.
Hi Kramer. Ipe is a very dense wood but it's sucks in tension. That's why it broke. The only way you can succeed with ipe is if you glue a HARD backing (such as bamboo, maple, white oak, hickory). What a hard backing does is it actually works with the belly bow, giving it it's characteristics. That's why composite bows work (a boo backed ipe is, in fact, a composite bow). Soft backing like linen, cloth, rawhide, paper.... are only there to prevent splinters from lifting, if the grain in not 100% straight (that why a straight grain board doesn't need any backing). Hope this helps😁
Soaking my bone now bub. . Well that don't sound just right. Glad to know I'm in the 10%. My first attempt was a 50lb success and I thank you Mr Kramer. I followed your longbow video. Made your jigs. Ive done four , exploded one. Thanks for all your instruction.
A primitive bow making channel showed raw hide backing being done by stretching the wet hide between the handle and nick's so when it dried and shrunk, it put tension in the bow for extra power. I reckon worth a try with these dog treats. Love your creativity.
Kramer the oriental people in korea have made horn bows for a really long time..they use a glue made from the air bladders of croakers to glue in the hide,its tendon that is pounded out and combed out with a metal comb and dipped into this warm glue and makes a killer backing ....
I made my first bow out of a piece of oak after being inspired by your video on making a bow for $13. I followed you pretty much step by step and only had a Bowie knife and hand files to work with and after about 30 hours it turned out amazing, I'm really frickin proud of it. It looks awesome, it works, it shoots well, and it draws at about 30lb. I love your channel and I love all you do and you have inspired me to pick up a new and fantastic hobby. Keep up the hard work and determination and thank you for the positive encouragement and inspiration!
idea for a series of videos: testing the performance effects of different backings. Make and tiller a bow. Measure poundage and FPS of the bow. Back the bow with a backing and record the performance increase/decrease. Repeat this test with different backings, ie: rawhide, sinew, duct tape, drywall tape, bamboo...etc.
Your doing a dame good job . will it bow got me back in to the archery game. Im going to start teaching kids to make bows. We are from Round Valley Reservation in California. I will be learning with them. Staying covid free at the same time
Hi Kramer, you are honest to show the breaking of the bow, yes ... Bow breaks during making, during testing and even after that also... so i congratulate on your sincere efforts and courage to show the failure , learning and success
Hey I'm in that 10%! I just finished my first bow this past weekend. Red oak 1x2, 66", 40# @ 28", with a mesh and paper drywall tape backing(only 2 layers of mesh and one of paper though😬). But....I had the help of great videos from you, Clay Hayes, and others! Well also a little carpenter experience from my construction days.
Once again Kramer, another video I could watch time and time again, calming majestic attitude we all could be in these current times mate, 👍👍 love your work keep strong and show us what can be done. Take care out there.
I'm planning on doing this soon using some holly I harvested on my property. Just waiting for it to finish seasoning. Thank you for the video! I'll also be buying some of your bowstrings soon ;)
Hey man, I really like your "refuse to fail" attitude. I'm sure it was quite a process, but using non-conventional items usually takes a little finesse and in the end you nailed it. I'm sure once you had a little more time you could refine it into something "pretty" but as far as functionality, I think you did an amazing job. This is the first time I've run across your work, but I was really impressed and I'm here to stay. I can't wait to see what else you come up with.
Well I have just bought some rawhide dog bones, just waiting on postage. Now about to go to the hardware and buy some nice grain wood and get started. Wish me luck haha
I get the huge dog bone from Pets Mart. The one from Wal-Mart is in short strips. I get 2 and a half backings for longbow. I use the flexible water resistant epoxy. This type is used on boats.
Don't know much about backings, but I would suggest to use ash next time in stead of oak. Oak is rather brittle, while ash has basically the same weight and density, but is a lot more resilient. In Estonia (north-eastern Europe) our farming ancestors used Ash for most of the heavy duty rigging of horses and tools, because once ash is cured, it is basically impossible to break.
I would love to see a repeat of the Shovel handle, but with a fresh handle instead of an old handle.. I think that one had a much better chance of working if it would have been new.
@Cal Aylmer wood glue should work fine all though i never used it on any of my hunting bows . All my bows are sinew backed with hide glue and sealed with polyurethane. Where i live hunting season starts in october and end in January so humidity is really not a problem i never string my bows up during hot summer days or during high humidity dont want my bow limbs to take on set where the limbs stay bent a little bit. The thing about sinew and hide glue bows is take about 6 month for everything to cure but at the end u will have a hard hitting bow. When i make bows i will make them during October while im cutting firewood .Then store it in a closet until the next hunting season start. If a bow or two break no big deal because everything still get used wood shaving become kindling for fire wood and the bow parts get used as fire wood its a win win situation lol. Its also work great on gluing the feathers to arrow shafts just scuff up the area where u gonna place ur feathers. Just use sealant on top of the quill after it drys the next day and u are good to go. Even though my bows are sealed in never hunt with them in the rain. For that ill use modern compound or traditional bow unless im in a hunting from a hunting blind
Gave up home depot and hit the local wood supply. A bit more expensive, but many more to choose from. At HD and Lowes, i often went through the whole pile. Even bought much longer or thicker boards to cut out a decently straight grained piece
I am late to the party, and I also haven’t watched the whole video yet, I just came to say that I have seen people use dog bone rawhide strips for edge bindings when making Viking style shields, so I am excited to see how this plays out.
Still working on my first bow, and it happens to be oak with rawhide dog bone backing. Staining rawhide with coffee gives it a nice look with the oak. So far so good.
I have broken many bows... imagine making a short sword spending weeks on it and it when quenching it , it cracks... you just throw it down and go back inside for a while.
I know that feeling. One of the reasons i generally have at least 5 projects on the floor when i work on something. That way i can cry my sorrows in the next one. :))
@@aserta that is solid advice, it has worked for me. I get really passionate about things I put weeks and sometimes months into and having something else to pick up if it all unravels saves a lot of hassle. If you start messing up lots of things in a row I just leave it a day.
I brok my fist 5 bows on the tillering tree then 6 worked for the first 1000 shots then got a splinter but I think it's a good thing because now I know most ways bows break
Move them in , cut them out , ride them in raw-hide . My heart broke on the snap . Love the idea . I still want to see it made , with the raw hide chew
Great video Kramer! I found your channel when this series started, and I love it! I've gone back and watched a ton of your other videos at this point, but it's a lot of fun to watch you enthusiastically try out new things.
Thats awesome! I carry a mini dogbone in my ruck for emergency binding material. Just wet it, stretch it, wrap it, and let it dry...super strong grip!! Now that I know it can work on a bow too, that just means I need to get a large dogbone and flatten it out.
I’ve seen this done before. This kind of rawhide is thicker which slows down the bow a bit. Rawhide from deer or goats is the best, but like you said more expensive.
Definately gonna try this out eventually. I just recently finished my first ever bow using your video on the poplar build and its fully functional 😁 however I am 100% still learning and need quite a bit of practice tillering as there was a small hinge that's started to pressure crack. But overall super stoked, I know a bit more and where I went wrong so as not to make those same mistakes (hopefully) and already have 2 new future bows going now. Thanks Kramer for all the content, keep up the awesome work
i was not expecting the tearing a stave straight from the tree lol youre awesome my dude. watching all the "will it bow" back to back. gonna try my hand at making a bow soon. ive shot few bows mostly as a kid at camp not much as an adult. would like to get back into it.
Kramer, you are one fine guy. You keep your audience on edge wondering what’s going to happen next. Fine video as always, keep up the good work little brother. Your brother in Christ WRV
The first and only bow I've ever made was a hickory selfbow. It would lazily lob arrows, was about 25 pounds short of my intended draw weight, and had a horrendous amount of string follow, but the tiller looked decent (to me) and it never broke.
I would be interested in seeing Kramer take his time making the best possible bow with a raw hide bone. Then some time later an update video showing how its held up with regular use.
I broke my first 9 bows before making 1 St working bow 😁😁 after 7 years of bowbuilding , there is always 30-35 % chance of braking bow while making it .
I know it's an old video but I just found your channel =) Have you thought about trying hot hide glue for bonding bow backing? We use it a lot in instrument building, and the bond is actually stronger than the wood it's bonding together.
Do you think a "multitool will it bow" episode would make sense... or would that be too limiting. I'm curious from a survival situation, if you need to make a bow, if a multitool would have the tools required. Then again, maybe you'd have to make the tools with the multitool first... Anyway, great content and I've penciled in a weekend this summer for a bow making session. Let's go!
I know I mentioned a wooden hockey stick before so I'll leave that out this round... How about wooden skies better yet one wooden ski. Maybe something from a thrift shop... Cheers
@@kramerammonsarchery yaaaaaaaa now is it a left hand or right hand shot... Lol also is it a Sherwood? CCM??? Also you gotta play some one on on with it
I love your video and your positivity! :) I struggle with the loud music in between dialogue. I would love to be able to watch them without risking a migraine
The first bow I made worked only because I made it out of PVC and went through two other pipes because I couldn't get the notches right. It looks primitive but it holds together. Still need to put an arrow notch on it and then shoot the darn thing.
Slick start! Great vid Kramer! I snapped one I was half way through yesterday too so this made me feel a bit more human! Lots to learn, loving the content 🤙🤙🤙
you can try to do a balsa wood bow... or a PET bottle... or some kind of bag baking ... or baking with shoes cords... guitar strings.... ropes(natural or sinthetics ... can you make a longboard skate into a bow ? you can try metal baking to... like aluminum foil baking or bronze baking or news paper baking... there you have some ideas... i wish you make some of them or give you some ideas at leas keep doing it ;)
The problem with the dog bone raw hide is how thick it is. It adds unnecessary mass to the limbs, which slows the bow down considerably. The strips that are for bow making are about 1/3 the thickness of a dog bone. That said, it makes a perfectly serviceable backing. Great videos!
Trying to find good working material at a store like lowes or home depot for the bow itself, while my staves season, is like finding a 100 dollar bill on the street.
Do you have to use epoxy on the raw hide? Just came across your channel and made a re-curve when I was in High School in 1978 and it still shoots very well. I wanted to make a bow with less draw weight. Great video's!!!
I am an exbow builder in the hobby category that age creeped up on. I really appreciate the way you present yourself. You probably have made more bows than I ? I had failures and sucesses the same as you. You are representing your making and breaking bows fairly. I respect that quality in a person! It is called being honest. Thanks for the videos ,I watch them and smile as I see myself in you at times!
If you think you may want to use dog-chew rawhide again I'd suggest reading up on the process of parchment making. Parchment and vellum are prepared from sheep and calf skins, and the techniques of working with the material will certainly translate to preparing rawhide for bow backing.
The skins are made flat for writing by stretching them on a frame. This keeps them taut while they are drying. I think that it would help if you built some sort of frame or jig that would stretch the hide while wet and allow it to dry flat. At the least it would make it easier to work with.
Also, you might try using hide glue. As it is prepared from the skin of animals it might be more compatible with rawhide.
Just some notions.
I made a working bow out of a stick in my backyard and a string from an old rug
It had a 1 pound draw weight and shot an arrow 2 feet
Nope got em all beat . Did what we all did . Took moms hangars and had a ready made bow. Always had a problem with the draw weight .
I made my first bow at age 13.
It was 1,6 meters long and had 35 pounds
Good stuff!
Now that you’re older and wiser, use a new stick to get a distance of 4 feet or perish.
Did the same a few hours ago and got at least 20 ft got some rope and cut a live branch which was pretty tough but did bend
I wanna know how many times it took to land that bone in the bucket!!! lol
I came to the comments to ask this!
Gotta know! Lol
I fourth this
72?
I'm guessing 12 tries
Could you make a bow entirely from bamboo ?? Love your content, keep it up the good work man :)
Japanese yumi bows were maybe of bamboo I don't see why you couldn't use bamboo to make complete bows of other styles
u say made entirely of bamboo right?. even the string is bamnoo, lol
@@Diobrando-ib7tf If you wanted to take it as that extreme version of an entirely bamboo bow then you could braid together some bamboo cord. Won't be as fast as dacron, but I reckon it'd be do-able. I know some people use yucca cord for primitive bows.
@@stevepopple3396 i think there was something about the bamboo having a natural taper that was why they made a particular style of bow. It still works but that would probably prevent you from making a normal european bow
@@joeasher2876 Some south American aswell as pacific bows have a very thin, flat strip of bamboo with the skin still on, as a bow string. On both tips of the "string", they make a series of notches along a length of maybe 5 or so inches, then braid rattan in a way to form an actual cord of maybe 10 inches, which form the ACTUAL tips of the string, then tie loops. They most often use really long, non fletched, no nocked arrows out of a light reed with large bamboo or bone arrowheads (more like small javelin heads). For this they use a form of the pinch draw, with a curled forefinger and thumb lightly gripping the arrow, while the three fingers are under pulling the string
Kramer is a real genius
Hi Kramer- Just wanted to say I really appreciate you showing your failures. That's a huge part of the process and it's great that you show how much it sucks, only to turn around and try all over again. I made my first bow based off your tutorials during this quarantine! And then tried to do it again and snapped the second bow on the tillering tree (tillering table, lol). Thanks for you demos, and thanks for the honesty. -Brice
I love the series. When experimenting with something it is always important to limit the variables though. If you want to test dog bone rawhide use known wood and glue to eliminate those as variables. Now there is the big question on whether the rawhide is good or contributed to the first failure. I still love the series and your energy though so please keep doing these.
i believe it would have broken sooner or later, no matter the backing. i think he was just unlucky with that pice of ipe
I agree with you.
For this, it seems the epay is an unknown, as a single. Piece for the wood. The backing is an unknown. And the glue is an unknown.
This would suggest, that Kramer would need to compare some bare epay Bows...then test a couple backed with his known backing, and glue.
Then test with known backing but alternate glue.
Then test with known glue but the unknown backing.
And finally, compare the full variable combo, with the new backing new glue and new wood.
But, that's a lot of Bows.
As a bow builder my hats off to you for not going crazy after building that bow cuz it's not a short or easy process it really is like makeing a baby an soon as it's born it dies an that's really how I fill win a bow is broken but I might just love it to much lol
There are people who are trained to do it and they r people who love to do it keep it up bro
Great Idea!
I can also recommend to prestressed the wood before applying the raw hide to the back. Prestressing is done by bending the bow into a reflex and fix it somehow in place until the glue is dry.
Best Regards
Saw this suggestion on a old forum yesterday. My first board bow had cracking noises at around 40LB (half tillered). They said it was probably the wood glue separating from the fiber glass. I was using Le-page cause my store was out of titebond. Bow still draws at 30lb but cant pull more. I saw the post about the dog bone for raw hide and thought I would try that next. Thanks for making a conveniently timed video lol
I really appreciate that you are honest about your failures. We learn so much from failing, and so many are afraid to admit when it goes wrong.
That’s the finest stave pulling I’ve seen in a little bit.
That backward throw into the bucket was annoyingly cool!
Ahh yes! This series is honestly keeping me alive at this point xx
When it broke I literally felt that when a project breaks it’s so sad
Wonder if went in slow motion to him lol.
Kramer, you must know this, but if you position the bow so it hooks on front of your left ankle and behind your right knee you won't have the end of the bow touching the ground. I know it wasn't end of bow that broke but what I've explained is how I was shown when I was a kid. Love your show.
Hi Kramer.
Ipe is a very dense wood but it's sucks in tension. That's why it broke. The only way you can succeed with ipe is if you glue a HARD backing (such as bamboo, maple, white oak, hickory).
What a hard backing does is it actually works with the belly bow, giving it it's characteristics. That's why composite bows work (a boo backed ipe is, in fact, a composite bow).
Soft backing like linen, cloth, rawhide, paper.... are only there to prevent splinters from lifting, if the grain in not 100% straight (that why a straight grain board doesn't need any backing).
Hope this helps😁
I think you got the life I never knew I wanted to be a bow-er? I really want to
Soaking my bone now bub. . Well that don't sound just right. Glad to know I'm in the 10%. My first attempt was a 50lb success and I thank you Mr Kramer. I followed your longbow video. Made your jigs. Ive done four , exploded one. Thanks for all your instruction.
U should do a video on an in-depth draw knife tutorial on how to use it.
Yes please
I like how the tree gave him a perfectly finished board with a barcode sticker and everything...
I saw no disclaimer....if the tree in my bak yard doesn't give me the same results . Im calling a lawyer. He said it would ....beahaha
A primitive bow making channel showed raw hide backing being done by stretching the wet hide between the handle and nick's so when it dried and shrunk, it put tension in the bow for extra power. I reckon worth a try with these dog treats. Love your creativity.
Kramer the oriental people in korea have made horn bows for a really long time..they use a glue made from the air bladders of croakers to glue in the hide,its tendon that is pounded out and combed out with a metal comb and dipped into this warm glue and makes a killer backing ....
I must have patience like yours whenever i fail at making my own bows
I made my first bow out of a piece of oak after being inspired by your video on making a bow for $13. I followed you pretty much step by step and only had a Bowie knife and hand files to work with and after about 30 hours it turned out amazing, I'm really frickin proud of it. It looks awesome, it works, it shoots well, and it draws at about 30lb. I love your channel and I love all you do and you have inspired me to pick up a new and fantastic hobby. Keep up the hard work and determination and thank you for the positive encouragement and inspiration!
You're a true artist. Great stuff
idea for a series of videos: testing the performance effects of different backings. Make and tiller a bow. Measure poundage and FPS of the bow. Back the bow with a backing and record the performance increase/decrease. Repeat this test with different backings, ie: rawhide, sinew, duct tape, drywall tape, bamboo...etc.
"will it back"
Love your videos, esp impressed that you do not hide your "mistakes" but, embrace them as learning tools ... brilliant stuff
Your doing a dame good job . will it bow got me back in to the archery game. Im going to start teaching kids to make bows. We are from Round Valley Reservation in California. I will be learning with them. Staying covid free at the same time
Not 100% sure if I watch the bow making or the inspirational feed back you always show in the videos!
Hi Kramer, you are honest to show the breaking of the bow, yes ... Bow breaks during making, during testing and even after that also... so i congratulate on your sincere efforts and courage to show the failure , learning and success
@@kramerammonsarchery ... you deserve encouragement my friend
Wrapped a cedar bow with a dog bone glued to it today. I'm not expecting it to work out but I felt really inspired by this.
Hey I'm in that 10%! I just finished my first bow this past weekend. Red oak 1x2, 66", 40# @ 28", with a mesh and paper drywall tape backing(only 2 layers of mesh and one of paper though😬). But....I had the help of great videos from you, Clay Hayes, and others! Well also a little carpenter experience from my construction days.
Once again Kramer, another video I could watch time and time again, calming majestic attitude we all could be in these current times mate, 👍👍 love your work keep strong and show us what can be done. Take care out there.
DP Bone Dunk Shot!
I'm planning on doing this soon using some holly I harvested on my property. Just waiting for it to finish seasoning. Thank you for the video!
I'll also be buying some of your bowstrings soon ;)
Can you make a bow from my gfs arguments
She flexes like crazy when she starts reaching
Love it
lmfao hahahha
If something useful could be gleaned from that bs someone would have put it on their RUclips channel already.
You sir are a genius
That toss in to the bucket of water was soooo clean
Thanks! You're the best in bowing since!!! Good luck!!!
Hey man, I really like your "refuse to fail" attitude. I'm sure it was quite a process, but using non-conventional items usually takes a little finesse and in the end you nailed it. I'm sure once you had a little more time you could refine it into something "pretty" but as far as functionality, I think you did an amazing job. This is the first time I've run across your work, but I was really impressed and I'm here to stay. I can't wait to see what else you come up with.
Well I have just bought some rawhide dog bones, just waiting on postage. Now about to go to the hardware and buy some nice grain wood and get started. Wish me luck haha
You need to get Beka Garris to promote these. Send her some or something. Y'all need a collab
You’ve got such a great attitude! It’s great watching you work! Good editing too!
Excellent work Kramer. I like how you bounce back no matter what happens. Well done!
Loved the 'wood sourcing' segment. Made me laugh. Love your vids.
Dog Bone Bow, upgraded to Legendary
I get the huge dog bone from Pets Mart. The one from Wal-Mart is in short strips. I get 2 and a half backings for longbow.
I use the flexible water resistant epoxy. This type is used on boats.
You should try a will it bow out of an old snowboard. They're essentially the same as a wood core fiberglass bow..
How about a pure rawhide bow I wonder if it work. You should make a short and long version
Don't know much about backings, but I would suggest to use ash next time in stead of oak. Oak is rather brittle, while ash has basically the same weight and density, but is a lot more resilient. In Estonia (north-eastern Europe) our farming ancestors used Ash for most of the heavy duty rigging of horses and tools, because once ash is cured, it is basically impossible to break.
I would love to see a repeat of the Shovel handle, but with a fresh handle instead of an old handle.. I think that one had a much better chance of working if it would have been new.
@@kramerammonsarchery I think the first one was hickory, but it looked like it had been shown a lot of "love" in the past lol.
I’ve heard that when using hide/sinew for backing, the best glue to use is hide glue. Epoxy seems to hold up though
Yup real hide glue is the best
@Cal Aylmer wood glue should work fine all though i never used it on any of my hunting bows . All my bows are sinew backed with hide glue and sealed with polyurethane. Where i live hunting season starts in october and end in January so humidity is really not a problem i never string my bows up during hot summer days or during high humidity dont want my bow limbs to take on set where the limbs stay bent a little bit. The thing about sinew and hide glue bows is take about 6 month for everything to cure but at the end u will have a hard hitting bow. When i make bows i will make them during October while im cutting firewood .Then store it in a closet until the next hunting season start. If a bow or two break no big deal because everything still get used wood shaving become kindling for fire wood and the bow parts get used as fire wood its a win win situation lol. Its also work great on gluing the feathers to arrow shafts just scuff up the area where u gonna place ur feathers. Just use sealant on top of the quill after it drys the next day and u are good to go. Even though my bows are sealed in never hunt with them in the rain. For that ill use modern compound or traditional bow unless im in a hunting from a hunting blind
Well done my friend well done. I like the Home Depot red oak shows me I can use it too
That’s all I’ve been using lol
Gave up home depot and hit the local wood supply. A bit more expensive, but many more to choose from. At HD and Lowes, i often went through the whole pile. Even bought much longer or thicker boards to cut out a decently straight grained piece
What a nice tree
I am late to the party, and I also haven’t watched the whole video yet, I just came to say that I have seen people use dog bone rawhide strips for edge bindings when making Viking style shields, so I am excited to see how this plays out.
Still working on my first bow, and it happens to be oak with rawhide dog bone backing. Staining rawhide with coffee gives it a nice look with the oak. So far so good.
How did it go, Jim?
Making bows is such a beautiful process
"We're not losing hope we never do"
I was waiting for that to come.
I have broken many bows... imagine making a short sword spending weeks on it and it when quenching it , it cracks... you just throw it down and go back inside for a while.
I know that feeling. One of the reasons i generally have at least 5 projects on the floor when i work on something. That way i can cry my sorrows in the next one. :))
@@aserta that is solid advice, it has worked for me. I get really passionate about things I put weeks and sometimes months into and having something else to pick up if it all unravels saves a lot of hassle. If you start messing up lots of things in a row I just leave it a day.
I build bows an I build guns ...i brake bows an I brake guns being a bow making black Smith will make u tough an make u cry
I brok my fist 5 bows on the tillering tree then 6 worked for the first 1000 shots then got a splinter but I think it's a good thing because now I know most ways bows break
Move them in , cut them out , ride them in raw-hide .
My heart broke on the snap .
Love the idea . I still want to see it made , with the raw hide chew
Your so much fun!
hey it would be cool if u did a will it bow with a leather belt
Great video Kramer! I found your channel when this series started, and I love it! I've gone back and watched a ton of your other videos at this point, but it's a lot of fun to watch you enthusiastically try out new things.
Thats awesome!
I carry a mini dogbone in my ruck for emergency binding material.
Just wet it, stretch it, wrap it, and let it dry...super strong grip!!
Now that I know it can work on a bow too, that just means I need to get a large dogbone and flatten it out.
Have you tried an English longbow style of bow? I think that would be an interesting change of style and technique!
I’ve seen this done before. This kind of rawhide is thicker which slows down the bow a bit. Rawhide from deer or goats is the best, but like you said more expensive.
stay shatterproof....i like that
Definately gonna try this out eventually. I just recently finished my first ever bow using your video on the poplar build and its fully functional 😁 however I am 100% still learning and need quite a bit of practice tillering as there was a small hinge that's started to pressure crack. But overall super stoked, I know a bit more and where I went wrong so as not to make those same mistakes (hopefully) and already have 2 new future bows going now. Thanks Kramer for all the content, keep up the awesome work
When working with natural materials, you should use natural adhesives. You should try hoof glue, it's way better than epoxy.
Nice shot man 😅yeah the ipe I was gutted for you
i was not expecting the tearing a stave straight from the tree lol youre awesome my dude. watching all the "will it bow" back to back. gonna try my hand at making a bow soon. ive shot few bows mostly as a kid at camp not much as an adult. would like to get back into it.
Curious to see this done with an organic glue like hide.
just found one of the better Channels on youtube, this content in so underrated
Kramer, you are one fine guy. You keep your audience on edge wondering what’s going to happen next. Fine video as always, keep up the good work little brother. Your brother in Christ WRV
The first and only bow I've ever made was a hickory selfbow. It would lazily lob arrows, was about 25 pounds short of my intended draw weight, and had a horrendous amount of string follow, but the tiller looked decent (to me) and it never broke.
I would be interested in seeing Kramer take his time making the best possible bow with a raw hide bone. Then some time later an update video showing how its held up with regular use.
I broke my first 9 bows before making 1 St working bow 😁😁 after 7 years of bowbuilding , there is always 30-35 % chance of braking bow while making it .
Great job. Keep it up
i swear i had the same exact idea last week while googling raw hide. Super useful video!
I was totally sure that the backing would snap. Well done, sir. I think I'm still going for the glass fiber bow for my first one :D
Instant thumbsup after the bucket throw 😁 wonder how many takes it took you 😉
I know it's an old video but I just found your channel =) Have you thought about trying hot hide glue for bonding bow backing? We use it a lot in instrument building, and the bond is actually stronger than the wood it's bonding together.
Do you think a "multitool will it bow" episode would make sense... or would that be too limiting. I'm curious from a survival situation, if you need to make a bow, if a multitool would have the tools required. Then again, maybe you'd have to make the tools with the multitool first...
Anyway, great content and I've penciled in a weekend this summer for a bow making session. Let's go!
Awesome video man😀
I know I mentioned a wooden hockey stick before so I'll leave that out this round... How about wooden skies better yet one wooden ski. Maybe something from a thrift shop... Cheers
@@kramerammonsarchery yaaaaaaaa now is it a left hand or right hand shot... Lol also is it a Sherwood? CCM??? Also you gotta play some one on on with it
@@kramerammonsarchery cool deal, any questions about hockey sticks feel free to ask
I love your video and your positivity! :) I struggle with the loud music in between dialogue. I would love to be able to watch them without risking a migraine
Hi god bless have a good one
The first bow I made worked only because I made it out of PVC and went through two other pipes because I couldn't get the notches right. It looks primitive but it holds together. Still need to put an arrow notch on it and then shoot the darn thing.
I love this series. TYVM for doing it.
Slick start! Great vid Kramer! I snapped one I was half way through yesterday too so this made me feel a bit more human! Lots to learn, loving the content 🤙🤙🤙
Nice throw
BOW FROM A STOOL!!!
You want to make a Bow from your Poo ?
you can try to do a balsa wood bow... or a PET bottle... or some kind of bag baking ... or baking with shoes cords... guitar strings.... ropes(natural or sinthetics ... can you make a longboard skate into a bow ? you can try metal baking to... like aluminum foil baking or bronze baking or news paper baking... there you have some ideas... i wish you make some of them or give you some ideas at leas
keep doing it ;)
The problem with the dog bone raw hide is how thick it is. It adds unnecessary mass to the limbs, which slows the bow down considerably. The strips that are for bow making are about 1/3 the thickness of a dog bone. That said, it makes a perfectly serviceable backing. Great videos!
Trying to find good working material at a store like lowes or home depot for the bow itself, while my staves season, is like finding a 100 dollar bill on the street.
Do you have to use epoxy on the raw hide? Just came across your channel and made a re-curve when I was in High School in 1978 and it still shoots very well. I wanted to make a bow with less draw weight. Great video's!!!