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How to wire an illuminated 4 Pole rocker switch KCD4 - by VOGMAN
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2018
- Need to know how to wire a 4 pole illuminated Rocker Switch? I got mine on Amazon, model no. KCD4, but there were no wiring instructions. As there are four terminals and it’s for 125 / 250 volt mains, it’s a bit unnerving to have to guess. Fortunately I’ve done these before and am happy to show you the correct way to wire this 4-Pole Illuminated Rocker Switch - which wires go to which terminal and how this turns on the internal light (LED). I've included wiring diagrams to help my explanation..
Amazon details : 4-Pole, Green Illuminated Rocker Switch 250 V/16A / 20A/125 V AC
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perfect explanation, the best thing is that you show the diagram, greetings
WOW!! Very direct SIMPLE direct instructions, wished every DIY video was this easy to follow! Two thumbs up! 👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome explanation Mister VegOilGuy!
Thank you so much!!! This was so helpful it helped me fix my broken extractor with a switch. Thanks!!
Glad it helped!
Been a sub for a while but this vid came up from a Google search I did while trying to remember how the switch for my food dehydrator was wired up, since I last took it apart nearly a year ago. This got me up and running again.
Great channel 👍
Thanks Jeff : )
You have helped me a lot, Dear Sir. Thank you...now my Spray booth will have these switches to turn on/off both the lightning and the exhaust
That's great. I'm happy to help : )
Thanks mate, I just installed a 4 prong luminated switch to power some Led lights on my car. Big help.
Glad it helped
Great video, concise and to the point. Exactly what I was looking for. I can't stand these people who try to launch their comedy or talk show careers doing you tube how to videos. Really, if you want a comedy or talk show career then do you video based on that. When I'm looking up videos it's because I have whatever it is in my hands at that moment and I have run into a wall and need a quick hand to get me moving again. That's why I look up things like "How to wire an AC 4 pole illuminated rocker switch" instead of "Switch wiring". I had a need for a specific type of advice and googled a specific question. So I don't need all the extra that so many people throw in their and it's a real turn off. I actually started a business buying and fixing broken down chainsaws and reselling them with knowing a thing about chainsaws just by using you tube videos to help me along. A little common sense, a little mechanical experience and the right videos and your good to go. I make about $1500 a month selling used chainsaws and have for about a year and a half. I give a 30 day warranty with every once and have yet to have one come back. So it goes to show that these how to videos have a place. But people who are serious about what they are doing, like me, I'm wiring lights in my blast cabinet at 1:15am (a 4500 lumen LED strip and a fixture for a 200 watt incandescent bulbs to use as a heater to keep my blast media dry so it doesn't clump up). I have several decades of electrical experience, but am new to rocker switches and the switch isn't marked as to which is which. My meter set to continuity told me the poles matched vertically (hot and neutral were stacked) but doesn't tell me which is the line and which is the load. Therefore I needed a video. And your was the exact thing I needed. I wish more people did exactly what you did just get on camera, explain what they are there to do with a quick intro then get on to the meat of the video. After all that's what we are here for. So thank you so much for doing that and not trying to throw on jokes or play some retarded character that acts like an idiot (that can't be taken seriously) or wasting my time with some long drawn out video about rocker switches that has more info about your dog or your pregnant girlfriend and what you wife has to say about it. Some of these idiots are just to ignorant to be allowed on the web. But Facebook and you tube give them a voice. One I wish they would take away. Anyway, keep up the great work. You just got another subscriber.
Thanks Mike, but... well, I'm just as guilty as the next guy for dropping in the odd gag, etc. I'm not trying to launch any career, but I do enjoy allowing my personality overspill into my videos. Sure, I try to stay on topic, but I'm human. I do what I do for free, so if I can't enjoy myself whilst I'm doing it, then why bother? I guess that's how other RUclipsrs feel too. So like it or not buddy, if you're after free content, you've got to expect that amateurs like me will be imperfect from time to time 😁👍
@@vogman the occasional gag is fine, these people invent whole personalities and do entire bits around it. A 5 minutes explanation takes 30. Your personality spilling over is one thing, the ones in talking about simply waste you time.
Just subscribed SUPER GREAT JOB FINALLY SOME ONE THAT KNOWS AND SHOWS HOW IT DONE .GREAT HELP 👍
Thanks for the sub! I never claim to be an expert. It's simply a case of sharing solutions if I find them : )
Thank you for such a great video. I wasn’t able to figure out how to get the switch to light up and be at 100% working condition. But when I saw this vide one time I was able to. This video was was to understand
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!! I just fix the power washer that’s been sitting in the living room for a year now! LOL maybe now I can get back to cleaning! Thank you so much!
Glad it helped 😁😁😁
Great video, man! I'm starting out with electronics, and I couldn't get the search terms on Google right. This video is very clear and explains it very well. Thanks!
Thanks Justin. Keep going with it mate. It's a great hobby and something really useful to have a good basic knowledge of : )
The first video of this topic, after 2 hours, useful ! Thanks
Glad it helped : )
After watching few nonsense video. This really helped me. Thanx
That's very kind. Thanks : )
Many many thanks for this. Just saved my air compressor!!!
Thanks Jason : )
Thanks for explaining that so simply, i've wanted to add an LED latching switch to under shelf lights but they all seem to have 3 pins despite being rated 220v, any chance you could explain how to wire that please
This is great! Thank you for the very informative video. I don't know why the switch doesn't come with wiring instructions (Servalite LTGC501U 4 pole illuminated rocker switch). It is described on the package as a DPST on/off switch, which one can use it for, but no illumination. Cheers!
Thank you so much! Even if I am such a noob when it comes to electricity, I wired the switch NEARLY good, but my led remain still on even when the switch were off. I had connected the main on the bottom and the load on the top.
Thanks for the help!
Glad it helped!
Informative video...thank you! (In hopes you're still monitoring this channel...read on!) But 1 question I have (I live in the USA with 120V mains, BTW): I have a 3-hole wall outlet (Hot/Neutral/Ground) near where I want to mount a LED 4-light fixed track light. The light came with an open box/back and 2 sets of pigtails. I'm pretty sure the one set of leads is for a fixed 120V On/Off connection as the other set of pigtails, 5 pairs emanating from a diagram labeled LVLE/SEC/36VDC/ + -- which is for an optional Triac dimmer...?.
From the PRI(mary) there is 1 Black wire, 1 White wire coming out one side of the power supply, and a braided copper ground terminating under a mounting washer by - but not on - the power supply. (It's labeled PRI/120VAC with L and N for Black & Neutral wires respectively). I have handy a KCD4 DPST illuminated switch I could use...now...if I was 100% sure how to connect - if I need to - the ground wire from the outlet in the 14/2 Romex (14 AWG w/solid copper ground wire inside sheath) to the bare braided copper ground wire (about 10" long in the lamp box I mentioned above) that I'm using to make a custom length power cord.
So, the DPST rocker switch has no pole designated for 'Ground' so I'm wondering if I should/could bypass the switch & wire nut the ground wire - (safely isolated from the Hot & Neutral switch poles) in the 14/2 Romex to the braided ground on the light...or just not use any ground at all.
** I'm pretty sure the Neutrals & Grounds all go to the same lugs in my breaker panel in the basement...I am NOT using a subpanel...FYI)
TIA and just hoping you might see & comment on my situation. It's 7:45 a.m. here in Missouri so I have all day to get to the hardware store and buy a standard light switch w/ground terminal and mounting box. Probably will...BUT...I still need to use this switch, if I can, for another project on a vintage window fan (reverse flow circuit switch broke) & would appreciate/value any advice on grounding a KCD4 switch when used with mains/120V power.
Good to know. I was trying to decide if I could run a second load off the second pole. This switch is basically going to be a safety cut off for an iot based smart switch but I've got immersion heaters at the top and bottom of my tank. Was hoping I could switch them both on with one of these but now I'm thinking probably better to just get a dedicated switch for the boost heater.
thanks for the great video
Glad I could help
Thanks VOG. This video helped me.
Glad to hear it! 😁
God bless you for all your effort . Your video was very usefull
No problem 😁
So the left and right sides basically act as two SPST switches together, with the LED across one of them? So I could run a 12v feed through the left side, and have the right side wired to a separate, 5v circuit?
Can a similar method be used for a SPDT toggle + a pilot light? It's an on-off-on switch that's non-illuminated so I bought a pilot light to act as my indicator.
The switch only has 3 poles (one for each 'on' and 1 for common, the centre one). I wasn't sure how to wire in the pilot light so it illuminates for both 'on' position.
The caveat? I'm using the second 'on' position for my highbeam signal, however, I don't want the pilot light illuminated the entire time that the system is armed and awaiting a highbeam signalsssl. I may not be explaining it properly and I might even be psyching myself out.
I'm just looking for outside input on this so I can hopefully get a better understanding of how to tackle this project :)
Can you use a 4 pin switch as a ground trigger?
By jumpin both bottom pins to gether then to ground side of a relay switch. Then top right to ground and a positive to top left for illuminating the led when the circuit is closed?
Hey thanks for the demonstration. I have a querry?
Can we we make LED glow when current flows through it and that too without connecting load to it?
Thank you so much for this video! You did an awesome job explaining everything and made it super clear and informative. I now have a properly wired rocker switch for my AT computer!
Nice one. Also explain the 4 pole push on/off metal switch with LED ring. Thanks.
U made this very simple
Glad you think so!
Thanks for making this video, just what I needed :)
Glad I could help 😁
Did you make those connectors? I don't have any screws for my switch. I just ended up taping my wires onto my switch. They probably won't hold for long though.
That’s for the video. Good job. Just a heads up. In AC current the electricity doesn’t flow in one direction it alternates back and forth. There is also no positive or negative. That’s for DC current like your previous video. Great video though.
Many thanks : )
I need to connect four 14awg wires to one of four poles on the switch. Any wisdom on which type of connector I should use?
Thank you helped me fix my fridge display light !:)
happy to help : D
Thank you for your video, now need to find how to wire 6 pin switch
So my question is, can one wire it so the light stays on even when the switch is not engaged? This is purely for aesthetics, I am rebuilding a computer where I would like the cooling fans active before the computer is on. The case is not set up for proper cooling. Some remodeling is required. If not would it be a pole issue where I would require a switch with a dedicated pole for the led?
Thanks for the help. I had an old bounce house blower that was missing the original switch and wasn't sure what wire went where.
Glad I could help Dwight : )
Very useful and informative. Just what I needed, many thanks!
Thanks Juan. Happy to help : )
Good video. I have a question. I am installing a new CNC system and wish to use toggles for the CNC, vacuum, water pump, vacuum clamp, light. I DON’T WISH TO CUT PLUGS FROM ANY DEVICE. Would you use a daisy chained toggle group to individual single pole outlets?
Could a use a 4 pole like this for my fans, if so is it basically the same setup
if i install the switch on car, can the main negative pole be connected to metal surface instead of mains power supply negative?
I have a 6 pole illuminated rocker switch. No instructions either. It says 1a - 1 - 1b on one side and 2a - 2 - 2b on other side. It is an on off switch. Model kcd4. So is this really an on - on switch labeled like an on-off switch?
If I’m using this for an automotive light install, how would I wire this up to include a relay?
Maybe this will help... ruclips.net/video/T1o29KTVbTE/видео.html
hello bro, thanks for thsi video, but I'm having an extension board which is using the same type of switches, but my one of the switch is not working... It is not turning on... so I decided to use one socket without a switch.... but I'm confused with the connection now... could please help me? I can share you the pic of my extension board, as my switch is not having that line in the bottom part...
Could I just run the mains directly to the light if I want it to always be lit? It's for a lamp that I want to find the switch for in the dark. :)
During the end as you say you just wanted a switch, I have the same issue with my 36v scooter I only have two wires with the voltage all ready passing through, if I try to jump the wires to the bulb it doesn't work however it will light up as long as I don't use the switch side, I've tried every combination however it a.c so it's always the same out come, is their a way to wire the switch and the light together via just two wires? I'm guessing some sort of one way diode as the light is shorted out when connected to the other side of the switch. It's a confusing one I know
Fyi it's a two prong switch from a controller board, when you touch the two wires it turns on the controller, used to be an key ignition single switch.
Thankyou. This helped me a lot.
Glad to help : )
Thank you so much by the Explanation, very well.
Glad you liked it
Umm. This is not how DPST switches work. You have the wiring right, but the illumination doesn't work how you think it does. DPST stands for "Double pole, single throw". There's no "LED side", both sides work as individual switches and the LED is located between the poles on the load-side. If you connect the mains to the load side then the LED will always be on, regardless of whether the switch is turned on or off. Also it doesn't matter which side is positive and which negative on AC switches.
Very well done vety informative your content helped my projectto completion
Thank you
Thanks Troy : )
How about a 12v ground switch that is lighted when device is ground on. So a led lighted ground switch . If this is poss. Thx
Thanks a ton for the explanation.
No worries!
Thank you, I just bought some of these of eBay and didn't want to make assumptions about the wiring as it's to be used with UK mains. However your choice of green and blue for Live and Neutral in your diagram is a bit naughty.
Atlast found useful instructions. Only observation is that the LED is probably connected in parallel with live and neutral and not in series.
Can we connect only positive pole. I dont want led to glow i dont need led to glow?
Hi I have a 4 pole switch just the same I have the load from the battery in the top 2 connects and it goes out to a volt meter and power light they turn on and off with the switch but the light on the with doesn't light
Thank you ... hours of searching then I found your video ;-)
Thanks Paul. Glad it helped you : )
Nice one bud i could,t understand why the light was,nt coming on
I have the same rocker switch with a three wire cord, the wires are Black-Hot; White-Neutral and Green-Ground. I have followed the White to White, Black to Black and Green to Green throughout the circuit, but it keeps kicking out the beaker. What am I doibg wrong?
I got it. No worries now. I left the Green Ground open. Thanks just the same, great Vid. I printed the diagrams for future use. bye for now. gary
if i wanted to use the switch the same way as you did on your control panel, but i DID want the LED to turn on, how would i wire that?
This particular switch needs a 220v power supply if I remember rightly, where as on my control panel it was only switching a 12v circuit 😁
Estaba buscando la explicación para conectarlo, gracias.
Gracias : )
So you say it is OK for 12 V car circuit. And if so, is it still possible to use LED illumination too? So same connection as AC?
You can use the switch as a switch... but the light won't work unless you use the correct voltage.
Great video, very details on it!!!
Glad you liked it!
EXCELENT!
Very useful, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks, really helpful and well presented video!
many thanks : )
Boa explicação, 4 polos digamos fase fase, neutro neutro, Very good.
What if its a 3 pole mains illuminated switch being used to break the internal supply on a single feed wire
thanks mate.
Thanks for watching.
that was great thanks very much real help.
Glad it helped
Thanks.
You're welcome 🎄🎄🎄
I have one of these switches, but with 6 poles... Can you show how that one is wired up? The poles are names 1a, 1, 1b, and 2a, 2 and 2b...
I think O poles are neutral and the I poles are load, the 2 of the middle are made for whatever you will want to connect.
muy bien explicado, gracias!! thanks you
Many thanks : )
What happens if you hook them up reversed, will it still work?
Hi Joseph. I'm not sure what you mean by "reversed" but it is possible to wire the switch up and have it "switch" but the light not work. I've done that myself. Wired up any other way, I really don't know what would happen... nothing exciting probably : )
VegOilGuy I think I got my answer. I hooked up positive where u have the negative and the negative where you have the positive, and the switch light stood on continuously. Even when switch to off. Thank u for the video btw.
It's fun to experiment : )
Very nice I have a 6 switch toggle board wish u had somthing on that lol thank U for explaining this tho
Sorry 😁
This video worked for me but my load and input sides were reverse and since leds only work in one direction and I was using 24v DC, I had to connect the power input on the opposite side in order for the led to light up.
NOTE : My switch was made for 24v DC 30 amps.
Can I use with 24 VDC?
Your video has helped me a lot thanks bro
Thanks Charles : )
Buena explicacion y conexion. pero el led no esta enstalado como se muestra, esta entre las 2 lineas no en serie en el neutro.
Awesome very helpful
Glad it helped
Thanks a lot for that. I can't understand why wiring diagrams are not included with switches, or why there are virtually no instructions how do that, other than this video of course.
I completely agree.
is there a resistor in that switch ? Can u explaind it ?
Hi Donal. To be honest I've never taken one of these switches apart : )
I can't imagine there's need for a resistor inside... just a neon light... but I really couldn't say.
@@vogman Most of these type of switches are neon lit and they do have a resistor.
That means all the load must pass through the led...How is that possible if the led is such a load sensitive thing?
Generally where there's a light indicator of any sort, the light is wired in parallel. This means it doesn't pull any more power than it needs to, is not in the path of the main load, and power will flow even if the light ultimately fails.
Great explanation, the schematic views were crucial. However, now I don't understand why there are rocker switches with 3 poles instead of 2 lol.
They like to keep us guessing : )
Can you do a 3 switch, 9 pin switch.?
Very thanks.
: )
Thank you
And thank you : )
How to move a motor reverse and forward with 4 pin switch
Hi Navjot. To be honest I don't know how to move a motor forward and reverse with this style of switch, but it can be done with the 6 pole variety. I do exactly that here - ruclips.net/video/PoqTNxCDUGg/видео.html
Excelente me suscribo👌😎😷
Thankyou
Thanks Paul : )
Isn’t the led supposed to be on when the switch is off, and vice-versa?
No. On with the power and off without... otherwise you'd be using power to say "I'm not using power" : )
Thanks Sir',Great idea video channel
Thanks Omar. Happy to help : )
thanks it helps 😀
Happy to help : )
Why not just put the led on one terminal and have SPST with light?
is it considered DPDT switch? thanks!
It's a DPST switch controls two circuits at the same time; either both circuits are ON or both circuits are OFF
gd job thx
very informative as
i recently aquired a parts washer with the rocker broken . this was very informative on how to fix !
Glad to help Nelson
Nice dear
Thanks Ravinder
so, i must be doing something wrong then... i have one of these in the tank of a solar water heater... it's 220 v, and also has to flow through a thermostat to power the auxiliary heater (in case there isn't any sun)... so i have 110v and 110v coming from the mains, on the two top terminals - shouldnt' matter which since it's 220... the heater has 2 wires, as does the thermostat, so i have one wire from the heater going in to the thermostat then coming out of the thermostat and going to one side of the switched... the other wire from the heater goes directly to the other side. when i apply power, the light is on, no matter whether it's switched on or off... so i killed the mains power just in case i blew something up! i THOUGHT i had it right, but why does the light stay on? it's either meant to be on all the time and i DO have it wired right, or it's NOT meant to be on all the time and i have it wired wrong - again, they don't come with any directions, and i have essentially the same wiring as you other than having the thermostat between the load and the two bottom terminals. any guesses?
My first thoughts are - are you sure it's the same switch? It might look like it and it might have four terminals, but it could be a difference model that's wired differently - it happens. See if you can see a model no. on it.
Secondly, pull the switch from the circuit and test it using a similar set up to what you saw me use - a table lamp or something (not anything expensive).
The wiring is either incorrect or the part is not the same as mine shown here.
Hope this helps : )
well i actually did a continuity test with a little 12v battery.. apply + and - to the top two terminals, and check for continuity on bottom two... no with switch off, and yes with switch on.. however since it's for 220, the light didn't come on at all... i have a schematic - and i THINK I followed it right... and maybe the light is supposed to stay on and it's just there to find your way in the dark or something...
admittedly it looks 'sort of' the same... red light instead of green but 4 ports in the same configuration - the back looks the same. i'm in canada and don't have anything cheap that runs on 220. all the cheap stuff is 110.. supposed i could rip it apart and try that.
I understand what you mean with the voltage. You were quite right to test on a 12v battery... that would show if the switch worked, but it wouldn't light the neon bulb as you've correctly said.
The switch I'm referring to is a KCD4, with four terminals and it’s for 125 / 250 volt. Whether that would work on 110v I'm not sure.
They do come in red and green though.
I'm thinking it might be a different switch altogether. Mine was bought from Amazon if that's any help.
Unfortunately without being there with you, there's very little I can say or do that might help. Sorry.
Good luck.
i'd be willing to bet that they ALL come from a factory in china.. doesn't make sense they would all 'look' the same but be wired differently... in concept i'm sure i have the thing wired correctly - power comes in, switch controls it... if switch is on, power goes through thermo, if thermo says go on, heater goes on... it's the light staying on that has me kerfuffled. at this point i may just have to take the front panel off, and take the switch out and diddle with it... maybe in this model the power comes IN on the bottom two... i doubt it though... i also sent a note to the solar tank manufacturer and asked for even a crayon drawing of the wiring, and to answer whether the light is supposed to stay on or not. by the way, 125v works with 110 and 250v works with 220v. i have both stuff, in canada most of the 220v is water heaters, ovens etc.. plus my mig welder and plasma cutter... also have a 3hp dust collection that is 220v but low amp. luckily it doesn't take a great deal of sun to generate hot water in this solar setup, but i'll need to sort it before winter. thanks for the replies.. i will soldier on!
What if I have only 1 source
funny a while ago wacthed that furnace being built now i bought the switch for other thing and was wondering how to wire it lol
funny how its connected
As long as you came back here, I'm happy : )