Are Edward Green Dress Shoes Worth It? (English Shoe Review)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
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00:00 Edward Green Dress Shoe Introduction
For years, Edward Green has championed a higher quality and finer make of footwear. But are their factory-made shoes actually worth $1,250 -$1,750 per pair?
01:00 Edward Green Shoe History
Northampton is a town in England’s East Midlands region with a long history of leatherworking and shoemaking. Edward Green, at the age of just 12 years old, joined the industry as an apprentice clicker.
Throughout his training in cutting out the various components that make a pair of shoes, he learned a great deal about how to look for quality in not only the finished goods but also in the materials that make them.
As he grew more skilled in his role, Green realized there was a growing space in the market for shoes of a higher quality. Driven by an ambition to make a class of footwear higher than that on the market, Edward Green established his own workshop in 1890.
05:05 Edward Green Today
Although Edward Green no longer possesses a bespoke program, the company still focuses on quality, not quantity. With a smaller output, the theory is Edward Green allows more time per pair of shoes thus, hopefully resulting in a higher quality product.
05:37 Materials
Edward Green takes pride in stating they select fine European calf leathers.
06:39 Construction Details
The shoes are hand-clicked. The shoe is closed, or stitched together, by machine and then the uppers are attached to the last by a combination of machine and hand techniques. The majority of the shoes are Goodyear Welted. Edward Green uses a cork filler before the outsole goes on. The welts and closed channel soles are machine stitched. Edward Green pays close attention to the look of their soles. The color is achieved through pigments and polish applied by hand.
14:20 Lasts
Throughout the range, there is a distinct preference for understated, classic designs with no fussy detailing. Edward Green has had different last shapes throughout the years. But a few remain as the brand’s lasts of choice: → The soft chisel toed 888
→ The almond toed 82
→ The round-toed 202
→ And somewhere in the middle is 184, Edward Green’s loafer last
16:24 Styles: → Chelsea - £965 / $1285
→ A penny loafer style called Piccadilly - £965 / $1285
→ A split toe derby named Dover - £1200 / $1600
→ And a derby boot that has been in production since the 1930s known as Galway - £1215 / $1610
18:00 Pros & Cons
21:32 So, Is It Worth It?
Overall, I would conclude that with the quality of materials used, the level of workmanship at this price point, the selection of different sizes but most of all, the classic nature of the shoe’s designs, Make Edward Green shoes is worth it, if they are on a steep discount sale only.
23:26 Outfit Rundown 
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Yes they are very expensive, but in my experience there are few shoes that maintain their appearance so well over time and develop such a gorgeous patina... After all, you need a good pair of shoes to get you where you are going, a good watch to get you there on time, and a good suit so that you look good when you get there! Great video once again gents!
No, you don't need a watch. You've got a super-duper mini computer in your pocket. It comes with an inbuilt watch. As for the suit, it would be nice if people didn't look at you as though you are from another planet if you wear decent clothes, rather than the cheap, scruffy rags people wear nowadays. Unshaven, with drawings all over themselves. If they are lucky enough to be able to afford a car, it's usually a dull, computerised piece of throwaway plastic. I hope you enjoy my negativity. Remember, if you want to find the truth, be as cynical as you can possibly imagine in your wildest dreams, and then multiply it by ten.
I have an EG brown Oxford and loafer for 18 years, still wearing it. Yes it’s worth every penny.
I bought a pair of C&J handgrade and a pair of EG shoes at around the same time 12 years ago. I wear these only when i wear suits to meet clients, which is around maybe once a week. CJs cost around $400 less. I love both shoes and they both look good after 12 years of occasional use. And both have great patinas and the quality of leather is not that noticeable. EG "feel" a bit nicer but maybe it's my bias knowing they cost more. I really don't think that EG is worth that extra $400.
They are outstanding, and one of the remaining independent Northamptonshire companies. Church’s have sold out to Prada and John Lobb to Hermes…. the factory is outstanding.
Edward Green leathers are unparallel.
In time they only age elegantly with only very fine creases.
Extraordinary but true.
I have their newmarket chelsea boots,
Comfort style reliability simply mindlowing
I bought a pair on ebay for $80, I cleaned them and tightend up the leather on a large tree, polished them up and they look incredible. Need to be resoled, but I wear them to church on Sundays so they probably have another year or so of life before I ship them off to my cobbler.
You have a cobbler?
There are still cobblers around?
They are the metaphorical equivalent of the painted jester of the dying circus industry.
@@pawelzepeterinma9657 I only have one thing to say to that.
Cobblers
Great series. I really enjoy how thorough these videos are.
Superb video Sven. I learn so much from watching your videos.
Thank you so much 🙏
I have a pair of Edward Green full brogue shoes in brown. I bought them second-hand, and they are just magnificent. I hadn't had a shoe that had that level of craftsmanship and attention to detail. I received lots of compliments whenever I wear them. Of course, I would never be able to afford the full price of a new pair, so I agree with Raphael that the best way to get the Edward Green "feel" is to go second-hand or find them on sale.
Thanks for the review on EG. I've ordered a pair of Ambleside from a local retailer. It's gonna take 3 more months to ship to my hands. EG is really expensive, a bit out of my league actually. But as a shoe enthusiast, it was a good opportunity to place an order as it's without VAT and shipping cost (nearly extra 250 USD if I made an order online myself). I'd rather get 2 pairs of C&J, which can make me twice as happy.
Anyway, EG is what it is. I think I'll still get few more of them however. I like Cranleigh, Dover and Lanark which are really unique and beautiful.
Looking forward to C&J review.
Your videos are so satisfying to watch.
Very admirable company, giving such attention to high quality, great materials and fine-point detail.
If an expensive pair of shoes lasts a long time, it might be worth it.
Just as I’m shopping for a used pair of Edward green Westminster. Thank you!
The leather quality is top notch!
I just love vintage wear, when I grow up I want to wear vintage clothes ❤
I'm surprised Raphael didn't mention they have opera pumps also!
My favorite brand.
The most comfortable shoes I've owned ! Others maybe more Beautiful but for everyday wear you can't beat them !
That is a beautiful shirt! Any detail on the specific mill and fabric or brand? The stripes look like an excellent blue grey
Edward green uses J&FJ oak bark leather sole.. just like other high end English shoe maker. I think EG is setting the highest standard of factory RTW shoes. Their shoes lasts for a long time, not only about the materials, but also the shape of the shoes. The inner construction can really well maintain the shape over a long period of uses. I have a pair for regular use over 5 years, it still looks nice. Doesn't loss the last shape as CJ and Alden after uses.
However the price rises so quick.... Occasional you can find some great deal in reseller's shop.
They don’t last longer than Crockett and Jones shoes. But there have to be people believing the marketing, someone has to pay the prices ..
@@justinafuchs2619 I agree, all leather soles have somewhere similar life span. But what EG outlast CJ is the upper. CJ shoes tends to loss the original shape after 2-3 years of wear, even with shoes tree. However EG are still very presentable as original.
@@TheRoadOfLoading bro what are you doing to your shoes that makes it lose last shape after 3 years?? Literally unheard of.
As you can see in the video they do a nice job on reinforcements which helps to retain the shape.
From trift store, 5 bucks. They feel wery comfortable, i think they have at 30 years old for least. I love the patina, i dont polish them.
Great content
I agree with you. EG is only worth it if you get a pair at 50+% off.
May I know where I can get a pair of EG at 50+% off?
@@dalumaiin Northhampton at their Factory Shop
I adore my Church’s, Grenson & C&J but firms like G&G, EG & JL charge what they charge because of the materials & the last refinement. these things really can’t be quantified in any video review. The quality of leathers is just that bit much better & the last definition, waist shaping & heel balancing are simply better, that said, I happily wear & polish & shine all my shoes.
I want some churches
You should try Church's' Crown collection!
I've heard you say that they were OK shoes, but really back then they were today's Gaziano and Girling, and I think they try to come back at it with that more high end range, at least in terms of quality and craftsmanship, even tho prices are high.
Would love to see that episode!
Could be interesting. The last time I was at a Church at store was a few months ago and I didn't see anything exciting there ...
A good pair of shoes are investment, well I think because they're going to be there for awhile, and you have to take care of them, make sure they fit right break in properly and overtime wear well. And then the dreaded task of repair or new pair, you don't want to abandon an old friend now do you.🤷🏼♀️🤨😢😓
Sven would you rather get the EG Chelsea at 50% off or the Vass Alt English Oxford at 50% off (assuming same condition, color, similar last, etc).
You’ve spoken very highly of both companies in your shoe ranking video and I can’t escape the Vass vortex even though I’ve had my eye on the Chelsea for a while now.
Great shoes but overpriced at full retail. It’s worth taking a trip to the factory in Northampton where you can pick up a bargain in the factory shop. Last time I went I bought two pairs of whole cuts for less than half retail.
In terms of construction, they seems to be very similar to Crockett and Jones handgrade. I put a pair of these into the cobblers to get reheeled, and the cobbler said they were a joy to work on... great materials and well made. I think C@J handgrade are about 50% cheaper.
We'll see when we cut a hand grade apart...
I have both. EG materials imo are a tad supple and takes shine much better. And their last shapes just fits better on me. Can’t go wrong with C&J either
I would love to see if Crockett and jones is worth it. I've been thinking about getting a couple pairs
Great video. I know Simon Crompton likes EG shoes as well. For those of us who will likely never be able to justify $1k+ on a pair, could you do a more in-depth look at Velasca?
We already did, please use the search function 😘
Sir: Recently I brought a pair of Broged Oxford shoes from a thrift shop and I though they were pretty good, till I discovered that the uppers were glued to the sole, I have glued them back together and they are doing well! The print inside is very fadded, though, they are made in Italy! I thought Italian shoes/clothing are good quality... What is your thoughts?
Watching this while polishing my dress shoes 👞
i like this video thank you
I'm a little off topic here but I'm wondering if someone can answer a question?
I wear 7.5 EEE shoes most of which are Allen Edmonds, Alden and Church's.
My question: What does that size convert to in the UK and other European countries? I'm more concerned with the width.
Please advise.
I would like to be a cobbler because I can't find anything I like and I'm my bigfoot size. You think we're all small footed people still. Uh no. I'm female 11/12 size 8 in men's sometimes I have to get men's when the women sizes stop at 10 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏼♀️
For the low low price of 5 car payments you can own a pair of Edward Green shoes. Always good to have something good to walk in after they reposses your car.
my car is 1600 a month
And worth every penny.
I‘d like to see a review of Santoni Blake Stitch and/or Goodyear Welted Shoes. I know you smashed them for the high price tag but you can get them often at big discounts so I think they can be really great for 200-400$.
I pretty much resent being told to be buying a lesser quality shoe because its cheaper.
If you are looking for Edward Green quality and style, then go for it...of course it makes sense to buy when anything when exactly what you want is on sale, but if it is within you scope of affordability then it makes total nonsense and it is totally bad advice that you will grow to regret if you compromise what you really want because of price.
If a the price of a particular Edward Green that you want, even on sale, is beyond your affordability range, it is an absolute mistake buy any different shoe as a substitute; buy any shoe only on the basis of its own merits of quality, design, and price.
The world is full of excellent quality serviceable, stylish, affordable shoes to choose from.
It is quite obvious that it is not imperative that you absolutely need to have a pair of Edward Greens to wear every day for every occasion as your only pair of shoes.
I hope you didn't feel we told you what to buy. We want to share our thought process, what's actually in the shoe and provide you with more information so you can make a better, more confident decision, when it's time for you to. Us a new pair.
Great video. I only buy shoes on sale and would rather buy two pairs of George Cleverley / Crockett & Jones / Trickers than one pair of EG. Toward the EG price point I would prefer Gaziano & Girling for their more modern styling.
If you already own a pair of the other brands, why not grant yourself the experience of EG? Just my opinion, you can only wear one pair at a time so I don’t really get the logic behind “i can buy two of these for the price of one of these” again just my opinion, cheers.
@@ahiwalter9153 Interesting perspective - thanks for sharing!
Bontoni should be next one
Oh I almost forgot you want a color to match the wardrobe that you're style call's for Winter/Summer that is if can afford only one pair.
I have a pair of oxford brogues by EG, on their 202 last. They are phenomenal and extremely refined... That said, I would not pay the retail cost for them.
I want some.
I a fan higher heels men dress shoes
They are simply not worth it anymore. There are good shoes, but nowadays they have the same details and quality of Cheaney that cost £5/600, or crochet and Jones. They are in the price range of GG but no way near their level.
I just received a pair of boots and I have to say they looked rather cheap. Maybe it was because of the dainite sole and utah texture, but I did not like it and the heel support was too forward it makes your heel slip out. Definitely overpriced
Just bought a pair of Vass.......
Is barker fleet a good shoe brand
If you mean "Barker" (Fleet is only their name for a doublemonk shoe) the answer must be yes. It's one of Britain's second-tier shoemaker, not so much in the limelight like Crocklett & Jones, Church's or Cheaney. So it reallly is an alternative to look for those shoe brands - other examples are Grenson, Loakes or Sander & Sanders. If you're lucky you can pick them up cheap on the internet during a sale or indeed on Ebay. I got 2 pairs of Barker on Ebay for a modest amount. Another alternative is Charles Tyrwhitt - they're also made in Northampton by Loakes.
@@iansoutryer3189 thank I've got both barker and looked both second tier brand I've to get better
Can you review Enzo Bonafe?
Please make a video about how to remove nose hairs like a gentleman. I desperately need your advice Gentleman's Gazette!
Get a hand wound nose trimmer.
Battery powered Nosehair trimmer. Stick it up your nose?
Just get a battery-operated hair nose trimmer, they cost hardly anything at all.
You could perhaps take a look at Cheaneys. Very good shoes also made in Northamptonshire. There’s also Loakes.
And for a low-budget version look out for Charles Tyrwhitt - they're made in Northampton as well, I believe by Loakes.
I do have some old ones. They have a very classic English style. I visited their store a few months back, and I didn't immediately feel I had to review them
Loakes are built like a tank, but unfortunately they are about as comfortable as one, even though the shape is perfect for my English feet. I think the leather is made from a compressed cow.
I think Edward Greens are fine for the price(less so for the dovers and boots as they then get too close to the St. Crispin’s handwelted territory).
Of course G&G are very fine too but the upcharge on a G&G vs an EG gets me very much thinking of Saint Crispin’s as the increase in price for a G&G in stock RTW vs a St Crispin’s would then not be as big as between an EG and a St. Crispin’s. For me the problem with G&G is the MTO upcharge for vast majority of their models which means they start costing as much as a St. Crispin’s.
Personally I think EG benefit from some beautiful shoe designs and lasts that makes the price acceptable. Some of their shoes look better than St. Crispin’s for example (e.g. the Galway, the Dover and the Piccadilly).
Each to their own, but if bespoke so available to you at $1500-2000 you can throw that into the mix as well
@@gentlemansgazette issue is you need to visit where a bespoke maker is a few times or live there. I don’t live in Europe or east Asia hence limitations on choice. As far as ‘value’ in RTW is concerned, Enzo Bonafe is prob the best but not all their lasts or designs are great in my view. TLB Mallorca are great too.
why would you buy a used Edward Green , if you cannot afford it just buy a shoe you can afford and that fits well.
Meanwhile if one thinks £1200 is too much , check out Blahniks men collection which they cannot even resole themselves and yet charge £800 for it 🤣
Are they plastc free?
Meermin is not bad for the money, but I'd gladly sell 5 pairs for 1 pair of Edward Green. Not even in the same universe.
Agreed, the regular Meeting are cut from a very different cloth. The linea maestro is different though. Of course they don't have the range of styles and leather.
"Rich shoemaking heritage"...😅 As a fellow German i could feel your pain and fear in pronunciating these three words 😊
And you thought Preston had all the pun's 😜🤨🙄😁🤣😂🤣🤦🏻♀️🤷🏼♀️🤦🏻🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻🤦🏻
Edward Green dress shoes. I had no idea. That's why I watch these 25 minute videos. Self internet search is frustrating and so much time consuming.
One foot is wider than the other 🤷🏼♀️ this is normal I've heard. I know that all you guys are definitely a shoe in with details
To expensive.
I would like to get your opinion about the german Haix Police Indoor/Outdoor shoes which look like a normal business shoe.
They make good chainsaw boots
sigh, real shoes... it is such a shame that shoes went the way of the "World Economy" and all we get are the cheap stuff from China or the very expensive stuff as mentioned in the video here. but in my life time i remember getting getting good shoes with great lasts that you could keep going for years by going to the local cobbler. now shoes are just another throwaway
Worth every penny but only if your name is Kirby Allison and you live in a 'British' fetish dream world ! LOL!
@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 Class doesn't pay my bills. $1,500 for a ready to wear shoe is insane
"Its nothing really special anymore these days" can be applied to the whole "hand made" shoes video TBH, not just hr conveniently dismissed. 🤷
This is yohei fakuda price
Yohei Fukuda RTW is about 1/3rd more expensive at least.
@@na4222 you sure? I think it’s the same no?
@@urbandaniel100 Yohie Fukuda RTW is about 2100 USD. Most Edward Green are USD 1,100 before VAT so actually YF is about twice the price
NO, they are not worth it. Under the law of diminishing returns, benefits gained from something will represent a proportionally smaller gain as more money or energy is invested in it. After you pass the $500 price for a dress shoe, you're paying for the brand name and not the actual product. IMO.
Thousands of men beg to differ. Edward Green shoes will last a lifetime if the leather is kept nourished and the underneath resoled and re heeled as necessary. Lesser shoes will not. The overall price divided by the number of years is key. But there’s fit too. Edward Green shoes do fit well. The real issue here is evaluating the difference between bespoke and MTO. I’ve had both and the huge price leap from MTO to bespoke and long timeline to have the shoes made now put me off.
@@russ9921 Almost every dress shoes will last a lifetime if properly taken care of. People have to understand we live in a world of abundance where people tend to own a lot of the same item. Most men will end up owning multiple black dress shoes, multiple brown dress shoes, etc. Nobody is using one dress shoe and wearing it everyday. The argument that these overly expensive dress shoes last a long time doesn't mean much when you have a shoe rotation. You can literally buy 2-3 $400 dress shoes for the price of one of these expensive shoes.
Again, it's just my opinion. Don't let these companies fool you into spending money you don't have to.
@@DR-cu2fl You need to try and then buy less of the best. Believe me, less is more. But less needs to be of the highest quality.
Let me cry when you deconstructed the shoe!