The reason that batman looks so big is because he was based off of retired football players and how they thicken up after stopping playing. Also he is supposed to be an unstoppable tank throughout. At least thats what the interveiw with frank Miller says in the beginning of the comic
the only moment in the comic that made me emotional was bruce remembering dick when he was being beat up by the mutants and iirc that wasn't in the movie at all. its not a big deal but i kinda wished they had added it somehow
@@jsc315 Tell that to "The Batman". It doesn't have to be all over the place, just keep in the really important ones, like when he talks about how young he feels despite his age
Yeah, pretty often I see Bat-fans praising this movie, and stating that since it's apparently such a good adaptation, they won't bother reading the comic book. I always tell 'em that if they loved the movie, the comic adds a lot of stuff that couldn't be done in that medium, like internal monologues and stuff. Definitely worth giving the book a shot if you're a fan of that movie(s)
The Batman Returns duology are the kinds of adaptations that shouldn’t exist but you are so glad do. Not only do they perfectly adapt one of the greatest Batman tales ever, but they damn near enhance it. I am so glad I am not the only one who remembers and cherishes these movies.
Man youtube will never stop freaking me out with videos about movies I think of as "just a few years ago" when some 15 - 25 year old will say " I watched this as a kid" 🤣
God I love these movies Absolutely my favorite animated ones His first night back has to be one of the most bad ass Batman moments ever (And I think their voices work very well cause Batman is 55 years old and Gordon is 70 something though I would say Batman doesn’t really have a necessarily menacing voice)
you should definitely return to the dark knight returns I recently started watching all the animated Batman movies and these two by far are my favorite.
Considering Robocop was influenced by DKR, which led to Miller writing/contributing to RC 2 and 3, it is also very fitting that Weller ends up voicing Miller's Batman 25 years later.
I always felt it is a shame they didn’t use Kevin Conroy considering like Bruce was now getting up there in age so it just seemed like something that should have been in my opinion. But hey a guy can dream.
This is the greatest Batman comic book adaptation because it is faithful with its art style and narrative. Like for Batman Hush, they tried to connect the story to their own animated universe where Damian already exists and it is basically the new 52. Also, they changed some stuff narratively where they shouldn’t
Return to the Dark Knight Returns. I think Carrie's parents fit well with how smoking weed and raising a kid while poor could turn out. Weed is usually used as an escape from life. Makes sense that she can essentially do what ever she wants.
Been a long time since I’ve seen these DKR movies but I remember really enjoying them. As a fan of the comic, I couldn’t really ask for a better adaptation. I’m kinda with you on the Mutants and their speech, though. Anytime someone tries to insert in-canon slang, and then have characters use it relentlessly, it always comes off as jarring. One thing about the graphic novel, it gets progressively uglier. Earlier images and drawings of Batman are much more colorful and better drawn, then as the book goes on it gets more crude and depressing, especially once Batman switches from the blue/yellow costume to the black/gray one. I don’t know if that was time constraints or intentional on Frank Miller’s part, but it’s interesting either way. Great video, you’ve gotta Return to the Dark Knight Returns!
I still go back and watch this at least once a year. Even tho we had to wait a bit for the second part but I’m glad it was included in the anniversary movie collection.
This is not the conventional mainstream "Batman." This is the brutal ultra-violent Frank Miller version of Batman. This is an extreme interpretation of the character.
Exactly. Which is why I get annoyed when people think this is normal for the character of Batman. It isn’t. He isn’t casually shattering the femurs of purse snatchers, or driving around in a tank and peppering dudes with rubber bullets. The whole point is that it’s an extreme take and not the status quo. But a lot of writers just seem to copy this and expect it to work, when it’s uniqueness and drastic shift was part of the reason it worked in the first place. I don’t want to constantly see a Batman who’s almost unhinged and a second away from snapping. I miss when he could be a troubled and tormented soul, but still have plenty of mental stability. Hell, his intense focus and fortitude is part of the reason I like him so much, and in my opinion doesn’t quite jive well with this sort of rough, brutish interpretation a lot of modern stories go for.
Batman always has the best movies and I would love to see the joker white knight story or court of owls done in an animated series or movie series next.
Great analysis. You covered some of the things that really stood out to me when I read the story for the first time (having not read any of Miller’s take on Batman). I might have to check out this adaptation 👌
I completely agree with Batman's philosophy, you have to deal with different people according to their mentality. These thugs only understand the language of violence and only respect the strong, and that's how he won them over. With such people a peaceful approach simply does not work, you cannot talk or negotiate with them because that would only embolden them further. Most idealist peace advocates think they can resolve all conflicts by talking while completely ignoring the fact that some people just cannot be reasoned with. We can draw many parrallels between the Dark knight returns and real life. And that's one of the reasons we love Batman, he gets things done because he's a realist not a naive idealist.
@@SquidJustice and that's the whole idea, Superman is supposed to be like this, he is supposed to be compassionate he is supposed to be the best of us while Batman is the vigilante beating the shit out of criminals, but for some reason people criticise both of them for being themselves.
I don't see how. You don't get all the little internal monologues of Batman. I also think they make Kerry feel less vulnerable in the movies. I still like the adaptation, I just lean way more heavily towards the comic
TDKR is a pretty edgy story and I stand by that this has done irreperable damage to the modern image of how Batman is adapted, but I still really enjoy this movie and find it to be one of DC's best animated films with the voice acting, animation, and writing
Yeah the problem is that people don't understand that the edginess was on purpose. This is NOT supposed to be the best Batman. This is an old, obsessed Bruce Wayne. Full of repressed anger and having to resort to extreme violence to make up for his lack of agility in his old age. But nah, what everyone got from this is that Batman should just be the Punisher but no guns.
I think it’s the failure to properly adapt it. The story itself is a very good one. However, Snyder would have you believe this version is practically a serial killer.
I always felt Year One was always a more true version of Batman and also Miller’s best work. I feel like TDKR as a comic hasn’t aged particularly well either. When I read it now it feels very dated and something that could only have come out in the 1980s. I do think it had a good and bad effect as far as how it influenced comics in general. We lost the campiness but gained the try-hard edginess. Like I started reading Bruce Wayne Fugitive line recently and it felt like it was trying too hard to be edgy on purpose. I agree with others that Snyder is an idiot in his sort of adaptation of it. He did the same thing with Watchmen just taking a very surface level analysis but nothing deep and meaningful. His movies are like that all surface and nothing deep. Not that he wants you to think that.
I think, apart from the interview with Frank Miller at the start of the book, another reason for Batman's bulk is because as he gets older he's sacrificed his agility for more protection, his suit is most likely a small layer of fabric over a ton of armor plating, sort of showing how as he becomes older he has to resort more to brute force rather than agility and stealth
Part 2 is fucking fantastic! You have to do a video on it. The fight and dialog from Bats and the Joker is some of the best ever written. Definitely do part 2!
The Dark Knight Returns is actually ONE of the greatest Batman comic adaptations. The other three are Year One (2011) & Under the Red Hood (2010) & Justice League: Doom (2012) [which is a adaptation of JLA: Tower of Babel].
I don't mind the art style. I love this Batman animated movie. I love the story I think I had just read the comic before this movie came out. You should definitely make a part 2.
I was 12 years old when I first read this Batman. It BLEW my mind. I had always only know Batman with Adam West, and Burt Ward. Detective comics BatMan. To this day I have my DKR books on my mantle. 🦇
I think theres a Third version of Bruce Wayne that nobody talks about. You got the billionaire playboy persona he puts out in a business suit, the face of justice in the Batsuit, but what about when hes in the cave/manor with Alfred? Alfred knows his secrets so theres no point in lying and Alfred would call him on that shit too. Alfred raised him, Alfred trained him (to a degree), he knows his secrets so its probably the only honest relationship he has and its what grounds Bruce Wayne as a human being...well as fictional one at least.
@@VI_V2 I can see that in the Michael Gough days for sure, but I feel that with Caine, Irons and now Serkis kind of have a more "Im gettin a lil sick of your shit Bruce" vibe to em 🤣
One of the biggest misconceptions about the Mutants in this is that they're actual mutants; they're not. They are a gang of extremely violent thugs who take the menacing new wave '80s punk aesthetic to the extreme.
Return to the dark knight returns! Also part two is just as good if not better in my opinion. just keep in mind the first few minutes are a bit weird. Anyways I think your a very underrated youtuber and I hope you keep up the good work!
Hot take, seeing spiderman fight vampires would actually be a really cool plot. I can already see spiderman flying through the air at night trying to avoid vampires jumping at him.
I found your channel only recently through your old wrestling videos. As soon as you caught my attention with those I quickly realized you also covered batman and several great tv shows and I'm at the point where I've binged almost your entire upload library. Keep up the awesome work and keep doing what you're doing because you should have way more subs man.
Return to the dark knight returns. I watched both parts last night for the first time and loved it and wanted to see this mans take on it and then today I get on RUclips and boom it’s here so thanks vee made my day
The director of these movies is Jay Olivia who was the storyboard artist for Zack Snyders DCEU movies and is the one who confirmed the Snyder cut existed and said Ben Afflecks Batman script was the best Batman script he’s ever read.
You mention voice casting, sometimes the odd choices are the best. In Batman VS Robin, the opening villian is the Doll-maker, this creepy traumatised villian, is Voiced by Weird Al Yakovic..... and he KILLS IT!
I just find it dumb how the mutants go from straight up murdering people and enjoying it to helping Batman just like that. And on top of that Batman trusts them for some reason
I'm sure this has already been said, but how could Vee Infuso not mention the quote "This isn't a mud hole. It's an operating table...and I'm the surgeon."
Not watching these two movies is literally criminal, part two is even better imo. I feel like part two could even make you like these voice actors, the guy they get for Clark is amazing and Bruce pops off.
This is not just a good animated Batman movie, it is far and away the best Batman movie(IMHO). I admit, I had my doubts when I heard about Peter Weller being cast as The Bat. Then you started hearing peak Frank Miller dialogue being voiced by Peter Weller and it all makes sense. I imagine if VI thinks Frank Miller thinks poorly of the left, he is going to have a big surprise coming when he gets to part 2. I will not spoil it, but suffice it to say the right gets just as much mockery in the second half of the film as the left does in the beginning. This was true of the comics as well. The Dark Knight Returns is a milestone in comic book history, and this film did it total justice(again IMHO). Finally, a note on Carrie Kelley. When Batman first meets her he is dying from the beating he received at the hands of the Mutant Leader. He really did not have much of a choice but to reveal who he was and where he needed to go. As for her lack of a mask, it seemed to me that Batman tried to keep her as far away from the action as possible(right up to the point where it was not). If you are familiar with the comics or film, you know exactly what point that is. I eagerly await his review of the second half. If he liked part one, he is going to go nuts over the second half. As to the soundtrack, this is a period film(that period being the early to mid 1980s). It is appropriate to the time, but is in no way "modern". Viewers who did not grow up with that type of musical style likely will not like it. Those who did(or are fans of films from the aforementioned time period) are going to love it. P.S. The music that plays during "The Final Confrontation" that concludes the film IS the Batman theme to me. Christopher Drake wrote a defining piece of music that stands with Zimmer and Elfman as some of the best music ever written for The Bat. Return to The Dark Knight Returns! 'Nuff Said, true believers!
These were great, in my personal opinion! And that's coming from someone who wasn't immediately gripped by the graphic novel of the same name. While, like you (Vee), I very much appreciated the kind of Batman story it was and its content on paper, it's signature art style (that only gets worse in "TDKSA," trust me) was always an obstacle in my enjoyment of the graphic novel. However, I agree that this is such an excellent ADAPTATION in that (for me) it's just enough the look of the comic to be recognizable, but is put through a certain (Bruce Timm) filter that makes it not only more palatable, I'd say even aestheticly pleasing. I also actually love the voice cast for this one, with Peter Weller's Batman being a standout, with also a really great and different Joker and a quite good Superman, as well. All told, this is definitely my definitive way to experience this story! Timm and his team really outdid themselves with this one! (This being the last in the initial wave where Timm was always at the helm.)
I'm glad you like the movie and I am enjoying your breakdown review of it. Something regarding the mutants that you may not be privy to is that Frank Miller when he was writing this the comic. The area he lived in had a gang so all of these words and phrases that the mutants use were actual gang terms that were being used around the city. That's also something that is quite common even to this day to keep cops and other law enforcement from knowing what you're doing was to speak in code.
The one time I liked the Mutant speak if when Batman broke that ones arm and he IMMEDIATELY drops the fake accent and all the slang and just turns into a scared teenage boy. Just shows they're basically just kids trying to sound tough
The Mutants aren't actually mutants. That's just the name of their gang. That'd be like saying the Hell's Angels are actual Angels from Hell. I agree Carrie Kelly sucks, though.
You're gosh damned right it is. It is one my top favorite comic, dc and batman movies period and one reason I like Dawn of Justice so much. It's a good movie
Your channel came up in my feed and I've been binge watching all of your videos, which is funny cause I was wondering when you were gonna review this movie as well! Needless to say Id love to see your review on Part 2
Definitely return to Return of the Batman! I remember when I saw this movie and I remember it being good for the most part. Despite the issues I had with it, I like it.
The reason that batman looks so big is because he was based off of retired football players and how they thicken up after stopping playing. Also he is supposed to be an unstoppable tank throughout. At least thats what the interveiw with frank Miller says in the beginning of the comic
Yeah he is fine to me but everyone else being bulky looks so weird to me.
@@sindelretconpolice1630 yeah. I get Gordon because he's ex military, but joker probably shouldn't be so big
And because it was the 80s, well the graphic novel was created in the 80s,
Everything was jacked and juiced during the 80s..
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everyone else looks like they got Jojo-fied
Wish we had a lot more internal dialogue from Batman. That made the comic for me. Basically just being old man Batman
While I agree, for a visual medium it just would slow down the story down and make is significantly longer
the only moment in the comic that made me emotional was bruce remembering dick when he was being beat up by the mutants and iirc that wasn't in the movie at all. its not a big deal but i kinda wished they had added it somehow
@@jsc315 Tell that to "The Batman". It doesn't have to be all over the place, just keep in the really important ones, like when he talks about how young he feels despite his age
@@rebubin7571 Agreed, even though I felt that it was conveyed beautifully when we see him notice Carrie and his shocked expression sells it.
Yeah, pretty often I see Bat-fans praising this movie, and stating that since it's apparently such a good adaptation, they won't bother reading the comic book.
I always tell 'em that if they loved the movie, the comic adds a lot of stuff that couldn't be done in that medium, like internal monologues and stuff.
Definitely worth giving the book a shot if you're a fan of that movie(s)
The Batman Returns duology are the kinds of adaptations that shouldn’t exist but you are so glad do. Not only do they perfectly adapt one of the greatest Batman tales ever, but they damn near enhance it. I am so glad I am not the only one who remembers and cherishes these movies.
Honestly, Peter weller has become one of my low key favorite Batman voices since this movie.
Watched this in middle school and it is, and always will be my favorite Batman story. Both the movie and the comic.
everywhere i go... i see her face...
Man youtube will never stop freaking me out with videos about movies I think of as "just a few years ago" when some 15 - 25 year old will say " I watched this as a kid" 🤣
I very recently read the comic after watching the movie and I cant decide which version I love more.
God I love these movies
Absolutely my favorite animated ones
His first night back has to be one of the most bad ass Batman moments ever
(And I think their voices work very well cause Batman is 55 years old and Gordon is 70 something though I would say Batman doesn’t really have a necessarily menacing voice)
master of puppets. nice
@@GunDoom I see you are cultured as well
@@StrangerE0ns i love master of puppets
@@xnate26x91 ay, another ally
you should definitely return to the dark knight returns I recently started watching all the animated Batman movies and these two by far are my favorite.
Peter Weller was a very good choice for voicing old man Bruce
Considering Robocop was influenced by DKR, which led to Miller writing/contributing to RC 2 and 3, it is also very fitting that Weller ends up voicing Miller's Batman 25 years later.
I always felt it is a shame they didn’t use Kevin Conroy considering like Bruce was now getting up there in age so it just seemed like something that should have been in my opinion. But hey a guy can dream.
Exactly. Everybody wanted Kevin Conroy but to me he wouldn't fit this kind of story
He's my 2nd favorite batman voice ever.
@@Cooplander real
This is the greatest Batman comic book adaptation because it is faithful with its art style and narrative. Like for Batman Hush, they tried to connect the story to their own animated universe where Damian already exists and it is basically the new 52. Also, they changed some stuff narratively where they shouldn’t
They butchered hush so badly. Shame too, because that was an awesome book. Same with the long Halloween, it got butchered as well.
Vee, this is the 9th time you showed the class a Batman movie and rank it as "the best".
All Batman movies are the best Batman movie.
@@thefamilydad8635 Batman Forever entered the chat
@@weirdu616 I don’t make the rules, I just enforce them.
Return to the Dark Knight Returns. I think Carrie's parents fit well with how smoking weed and raising a kid while poor could turn out. Weed is usually used as an escape from life. Makes sense that she can essentially do what ever she wants.
I thought I turned out fine tbh
Been a long time since I’ve seen these DKR movies but I remember really enjoying them. As a fan of the comic, I couldn’t really ask for a better adaptation. I’m kinda with you on the Mutants and their speech, though. Anytime someone tries to insert in-canon slang, and then have characters use it relentlessly, it always comes off as jarring.
One thing about the graphic novel, it gets progressively uglier. Earlier images and drawings of Batman are much more colorful and better drawn, then as the book goes on it gets more crude and depressing, especially once Batman switches from the blue/yellow costume to the black/gray one. I don’t know if that was time constraints or intentional on Frank Miller’s part, but it’s interesting either way.
Great video, you’ve gotta Return to the Dark Knight Returns!
I’m almost positive the rougher art was intentional.
The Dark Knight Returns might just be my favourite Batman story
Remember this, Frank Miller wrote for Daredevil first so DC hired him to write for batman after Daredevil's success
That's why Joker says to Batman, "you're one bad day away from being me." Frank Castle said the same to Daredevil. Frank Miller copied his own notes.
two of my favourite heroes lol
I still go back and watch this at least once a year. Even tho we had to wait a bit for the second part but I’m glad it was included in the anniversary movie collection.
This is not the conventional mainstream "Batman." This is the brutal ultra-violent Frank Miller version of Batman. This is an extreme interpretation of the character.
yeah. I prefer earth one batman.
Exactly. Which is why I get annoyed when people think this is normal for the character of Batman. It isn’t. He isn’t casually shattering the femurs of purse snatchers, or driving around in a tank and peppering dudes with rubber bullets. The whole point is that it’s an extreme take and not the status quo. But a lot of writers just seem to copy this and expect it to work, when it’s uniqueness and drastic shift was part of the reason it worked in the first place. I don’t want to constantly see a Batman who’s almost unhinged and a second away from snapping. I miss when he could be a troubled and tormented soul, but still have plenty of mental stability. Hell, his intense focus and fortitude is part of the reason I like him so much, and in my opinion doesn’t quite jive well with this sort of rough, brutish interpretation a lot of modern stories go for.
@@a_fine_edition2746 and all star batman and robin is the worst case of this batman is staright up a villain in that
@Will N oh i agree i just used that to simpilfy things
@Will N no its crazy steve
Kevin Conroy will always be the voice I think of when I hear Batman, but Peter Weller is my favourite Batman voice ever and I have no clue why
Batman always has the best movies and I would love to see the joker white knight story or court of owls done in an animated series or movie series next.
They did a Court of owl movie was kinda terrible
@@dado7642 that's the point. We need better movies and TV shows to expand on Gotham
Also the Batman who laughs that one should be a series
@@ivanbluecool I absolutely agree I misread your first point
@@dado7642 that's fine. I just want to see more casual fans see the expansion of the world too.
@@ivanbluecool same
Great analysis. You covered some of the things that really stood out to me when I read the story for the first time (having not read any of Miller’s take on Batman). I might have to check out this adaptation 👌
Definitely make a part 2, I haven’t watched the movies for extremely similar reasons but I’m about to watch it after this review, thank you 🖤
I never hear anyone complain about when spiderman in the 90's looked like Kurt Russel
I completely agree with Batman's philosophy, you have to deal with different people according to their mentality. These thugs only understand the language of violence and only respect the strong, and that's how he won them over. With such people a peaceful approach simply does not work, you cannot talk or negotiate with them because that would only embolden them further. Most idealist peace advocates think they can resolve all conflicts by talking while completely ignoring the fact that some people just cannot be reasoned with. We can draw many parrallels between the Dark knight returns and real life. And that's one of the reasons we love Batman, he gets things done because he's a realist not a naive idealist.
IDK man, superman's more efficient.
@@ProjektTaku But he's also a boy scout pansy
@@SquidJustice and that's the whole idea, Superman is supposed to be like this, he is supposed to be compassionate he is supposed to be the best of us while Batman is the vigilante beating the shit out of criminals, but for some reason people criticise both of them for being themselves.
@@SquidJustice really? Batman always seemed like the pansy one.
He respects bane because he broke him, the mutants respects batman because he broke their leader
I find Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Animated Movie Adaptation even better than the actual Frank Miller's Graphic Novel it is based on.
yeah? probably easier for you to consume and dont have to read
@@MikeLitiorus you seem nice
I don't see how. You don't get all the little internal monologues of Batman. I also think they make Kerry feel less vulnerable in the movies. I still like the adaptation, I just lean way more heavily towards the comic
@@birdboy16 that has to be the reason no.. The adaptation is good.. But the comic is better..
@@mullaoslo that’s a matter of opinion
TDKR is a pretty edgy story and I stand by that this has done irreperable damage to the modern image of how Batman is adapted, but I still really enjoy this movie and find it to be one of DC's best animated films with the voice acting, animation, and writing
It certainly doesn’t help that some people fail to understand it.
People like Zack Snyder. Who claims Batman kills in it. All the time.
Yeah the problem is that people don't understand that the edginess was on purpose. This is NOT supposed to be the best Batman. This is an old, obsessed Bruce Wayne. Full of repressed anger and having to resort to extreme violence to make up for his lack of agility in his old age. But nah, what everyone got from this is that Batman should just be the Punisher but no guns.
I think it’s the failure to properly adapt it. The story itself is a very good one. However, Snyder would have you believe this version is practically a serial killer.
I always felt Year One was always a more true version of Batman and also Miller’s best work. I feel like TDKR as a comic hasn’t aged particularly well either. When I read it now it feels very dated and something that could only have come out in the 1980s.
I do think it had a good and bad effect as far as how it influenced comics in general. We lost the campiness but gained the try-hard edginess.
Like I started reading Bruce Wayne Fugitive line recently and it felt like it was trying too hard to be edgy on purpose.
I agree with others that Snyder is an idiot in his sort of adaptation of it. He did the same thing with Watchmen just taking a very surface level analysis but nothing deep and meaningful.
His movies are like that all surface and nothing deep. Not that he wants you to think that.
How is TDKR edgy? TDKR is tame compared to even some of the Justice League stuff
Really love this adaptation, it's fun and it's a creative and amazing use of the Batman franchise
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The Dark Knight Returns is so good! Probably is my favorite Batman animated movie. Robocop as Batman, who wouldn’t like that.
Old Man Logan, Old Man Bruce and Old Man Steve would make for an interesting meeting.
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Return to the Dark Knight Returns!! I just finished both part one and two today and I'd love to watch the rest of your commentary/opinions.
I think, apart from the interview with Frank Miller at the start of the book, another reason for Batman's bulk is because as he gets older he's sacrificed his agility for more protection, his suit is most likely a small layer of fabric over a ton of armor plating, sort of showing how as he becomes older he has to resort more to brute force rather than agility and stealth
Part 2 is fucking fantastic! You have to do a video on it. The fight and dialog from Bats and the Joker is some of the best ever written. Definitely do part 2!
Does Vee SERIOUSLY think the Mutants gang are…ACTUAL MUTANTS?!?!
I was wondering the same thing myself. That's just the name of their gang. They aren't actual mutants 😂
Recently found your channel. Glad to find someone who loves all things Batman as much as I do. Keep it up man!
Stop lying. You hate batman
@@calvincandie9593 well I hate some of the things that Batman is in. But I'll never hate the character of Batman 😂
The Dark Knight Returns is actually ONE of the greatest Batman comic adaptations. The other three are Year One (2011) & Under the Red Hood (2010) & Justice League: Doom (2012) [which is a adaptation of JLA: Tower of Babel].
Return to The Dark Knight Returns, Vee. I appreciate your open-mindedness with this review
I love that i get to here Robocop give batman one liners, "This isn't a mud pit its an operation table, and im the surgeon"
Dude i love both movies so epic, watch them every year
I had issues with the Animation too but it grows on you
What are you talking about? The voice acting in this is incredible and Bruce’s mustache kicks ass
I don't mind the art style. I love this Batman animated movie. I love the story I think I had just read the comic before this movie came out. You should definitely make a part 2.
I was 12 years old when I first read this Batman. It BLEW my mind. I had always only know Batman with Adam West, and Burt Ward. Detective comics BatMan. To this day I have my DKR books on my mantle. 🦇
I think theres a Third version of Bruce Wayne that nobody talks about. You got the billionaire playboy persona he puts out in a business suit, the face of justice in the Batsuit, but what about when hes in the cave/manor with Alfred? Alfred knows his secrets so theres no point in lying and Alfred would call him on that shit too. Alfred raised him, Alfred trained him (to a degree), he knows his secrets so its probably the only honest relationship he has and its what grounds Bruce Wayne as a human being...well as fictional one at least.
For me, In the cave he’s just Batman sans mask.
@@VI_V2 I can see that in the Michael Gough days for sure, but I feel that with Caine, Irons and now Serkis kind of have a more "Im gettin a lil sick of your shit Bruce" vibe to em 🤣
The greatest thing about these movies is the casting of Robocop(Peter weller) as a old grizzled Batman.
Voices are perfect
Personally Carrie Kelley is my favorite robin but that's just me, also another great video btw, keep up the good work ❤
Carrie Kelley is the best Robin
One of the biggest misconceptions about the Mutants in this is that they're actual mutants; they're not. They are a gang of extremely violent thugs who take the menacing new wave '80s punk aesthetic to the extreme.
I’d argue that Christian Bale’s performance is the only reason anyone would believe that Batman is the mask.
I put this movie on repeat when it dropped. Love watching it
Absolutely agree. It's long as hell, but it is awesome, the second part moreso than the first. The only problem I have with it is Robin being annoying
That’s how she is in the comic so it can’t really be blamed
I absolutely love the music in this duology
Can’t believe you never saw this work of art.
Return to the dark knight returns! Also part two is just as good if not better in my opinion. just keep in mind the first few minutes are a bit weird. Anyways I think your a very underrated youtuber and I hope you keep up the good work!
The fact that u don't think u pot heads today dont sound exactly like kellys parents is so funny
Hot take, seeing spiderman fight vampires would actually be a really cool plot. I can already see spiderman flying through the air at night trying to avoid vampires jumping at him.
Robocop voicing an old Batman makes him sound way more powerful and rememberable.
The age of Chucky from Rugrats in it still makes me think he should have been older by then, even with Batman actually being over 100years old.
I was born in the 70's. This original comic was amazing. I feel this animated version, to be simply the best. My view but man.
I found your channel only recently through your old wrestling videos. As soon as you caught my attention with those I quickly realized you also covered batman and several great tv shows and I'm at the point where I've binged almost your entire upload library. Keep up the awesome work and keep doing what you're doing because you should have way more subs man.
i literally just finished watching part 2 for the first time last night and you make a vid on it, lets go
This Batman looks like he would be a BEAST on the defensive line
Idk why but the chunky character models look oddly satisfying.
How the HELL haven't u seen this iconic movie!
This has been my daughters favorite Batman movie sense she was 4, I’m a great father.
Return to the dark knight returns. I watched both parts last night for the first time and loved it and wanted to see this mans take on it and then today I get on RUclips and boom it’s here so thanks vee made my day
Both these movies and under the red hood were the backbone of my favorite batman movies. As a kid i watched them over and over and loved them to bits
The director of these movies is Jay Olivia who was the storyboard artist for Zack Snyders DCEU movies and is the one who confirmed the Snyder cut existed and said Ben Afflecks Batman script was the best Batman script he’s ever read.
This is one of the best looking DC animated movies with great animation, imo.
"Return to the Dark Knight Returns " Happy 420 Vee and Veetards
You mention voice casting, sometimes the odd choices are the best. In Batman VS Robin, the opening villian is the Doll-maker, this creepy traumatised villian, is Voiced by Weird Al Yakovic..... and he KILLS IT!
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Love your Batman topic vids of all variety. Please more ASAP
The tunnel of love scene traumatized me as a kid
I just find it dumb how the mutants go from straight up murdering people and enjoying it to helping Batman just like that. And on top of that Batman trusts them for some reason
I'm sure this has already been said, but how could Vee Infuso not mention the quote "This isn't a mud hole. It's an operating table...and I'm the surgeon."
You just made my day with that captain planet reference
Return to the Dark Knight Returns. That movie was way more chaotic than the first one!
I literally watched this yesterday and am currently reading it and today you uploaded this. Freaky!!
Not watching these two movies is literally criminal, part two is even better imo. I feel like part two could even make you like these voice actors, the guy they get for Clark is amazing and Bruce pops off.
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I LOVE THAT YOU ARE RETROACTIVELY REVIEWING ANIMATED MOVIES PLEASE KEEP IT GOING!!
This is not just a good animated Batman movie, it is far and away the best Batman movie(IMHO). I admit, I had my doubts when I heard about Peter Weller being cast as The Bat. Then you started hearing peak Frank Miller dialogue being voiced by Peter Weller and it all makes sense. I imagine if VI thinks Frank Miller thinks poorly of the left, he is going to have a big surprise coming when he gets to part 2. I will not spoil it, but suffice it to say the right gets just as much mockery in the second half of the film as the left does in the beginning. This was true of the comics as well. The Dark Knight Returns is a milestone in comic book history, and this film did it total justice(again IMHO). Finally, a note on Carrie Kelley. When Batman first meets her he is dying from the beating he received at the hands of the Mutant Leader. He really did not have much of a choice but to reveal who he was and where he needed to go. As for her lack of a mask, it seemed to me that Batman tried to keep her as far away from the action as possible(right up to the point where it was not). If you are familiar with the comics or film, you know exactly what point that is. I eagerly await his review of the second half. If he liked part one, he is going to go nuts over the second half. As to the soundtrack, this is a period film(that period being the early to mid 1980s). It is appropriate to the time, but is in no way "modern". Viewers who did not grow up with that type of musical style likely will not like it. Those who did(or are fans of films from the aforementioned time period) are going to love it.
P.S. The music that plays during "The Final Confrontation" that concludes the film IS the Batman theme to me. Christopher Drake wrote a defining piece of music that stands with Zimmer and Elfman as some of the best music ever written for The Bat. Return to The Dark Knight Returns! 'Nuff Said, true believers!
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
you should absolutely return to the Dark Knight and do part 2.
These were great, in my personal opinion! And that's coming from someone who wasn't immediately gripped by the graphic novel of the same name. While, like you (Vee), I very much appreciated the kind of Batman story it was and its content on paper, it's signature art style (that only gets worse in "TDKSA," trust me) was always an obstacle in my enjoyment of the graphic novel. However, I agree that this is such an excellent ADAPTATION in that (for me) it's just enough the look of the comic to be recognizable, but is put through a certain (Bruce Timm) filter that makes it not only more palatable, I'd say even aestheticly pleasing. I also actually love the voice cast for this one, with Peter Weller's Batman being a standout, with also a really great and different Joker and a quite good Superman, as well. All told, this is definitely my definitive way to experience this story! Timm and his team really outdid themselves with this one! (This being the last in the initial wave where Timm was always at the helm.)
I'm glad you like the movie and I am enjoying your breakdown review of it. Something regarding the mutants that you may not be privy to is that Frank Miller when he was writing this the comic. The area he lived in had a gang so all of these words and phrases that the mutants use were actual gang terms that were being used around the city. That's also something that is quite common even to this day to keep cops and other law enforcement from knowing what you're doing was to speak in code.
The one time I liked the Mutant speak if when Batman broke that ones arm and he IMMEDIATELY drops the fake accent and all the slang and just turns into a scared teenage boy. Just shows they're basically just kids trying to sound tough
pls do a part 2 pls and also pls do a ranking for all the batsuits so far
One thing you left out - the Batmobile. Love it or hate it, this massive Bat-Tank was unforgettable.
I'm the surgeon will always be the one of best batman quote every
The Mutants aren't actually mutants. That's just the name of their gang. That'd be like saying the Hell's Angels are actual Angels from Hell. I agree Carrie Kelly sucks, though.
They played it on TV and I saw both parts with my mom
3:05 Batman vs TMNT was a pretty good mix of Batman & mutants!
Please do a part 2!
The way you talked about how they looked slayed me for some reason
You're gosh damned right it is. It is one my top favorite comic, dc and batman movies period and one reason I like Dawn of Justice so much. It's a good movie
*god damned
He's thick because he's super buff and because it's Frank Miller's art style
love the batman videos, return to the dark knight returns for sure
Your channel came up in my feed and I've been binge watching all of your videos, which is funny cause I was wondering when you were gonna review this movie as well! Needless to say Id love to see your review on Part 2
The voice actors were amazing
They should make it live action. This is how bats faces off against supes. No one is saving Martha for a start
Definitely return to Return of the Batman! I remember when I saw this movie and I remember it being good for the most part. Despite the issues I had with it, I like it.
Carrie reminds me of both Barbara and Tim. I love her.
The final fight in part 1 with the main theme ending it was just breathtaking to watch! Return to the dark knight returns!