If she is old enough to compete in the big league, then she needs to be held to the same standards as the 16 + year olds also in the big league. Doesn't matter if she knew she was taking an illegal substance or not. Same standard for everyone no matter their age. Simple as that.
If you are at the Olympics representing your country, how, with good conscience, can one continue representing that country when you learn that it is a notoriously known, state-run doping machine? As an athlete from the age of 12-years-old, if not younger, you are taught about the great harm to your bodies the ILLEGALLY banned, drug-enhancing substances can have on you, as well as the risk you would be taking, concerning the future of your sport's career. During that educational process, these young minors also learn RIGHT from WRONG, and that breaking the International rules should be avoided at all costs. If Kamila Valiyeva learned this as a junior figure skater, and she now competes on an adult level against other adults, then how can they continue to use her age as their go-to justification, their excuse for this outrageous violation? After all, it's her body, and her choice, as to what she ingests.
That's ridiculous. Children aren't accountable for actions that their sport leaders (in absence of their parents) pressure them to do. The adults around her should be held legally accountable, because it's child abuse when they don't act in the child's best interest, for example by giving them drugs without sickness/symptoms. There are too many sports today in which children are abused, as they are trained professionally to compete as adults, before their bodies are ready and their minds are mature enough to make decisions of their own. Children should not be allowed to compete as adults and prize money should not be allowed for children's sports
You may very well be correct, and perhaps the rules should be amended for future competitions. That being said, the established rules require that she be treated as a "protected person" if under the age of 16.
@@LamLawIndy What does that even mean? Protected Person? Sounds strikingly similar to bleeding heart, liberal socialist policy: "Help someone to their own detriment". Here's the kicker. By trying to save one person from "Irreparable harm", they have likely put dozens, if not hundreds of young athletes at risk. Now every shady country will be doping up their kids, because they know that they can get away with it.
This is not because she is a minor. It is because the B has not been tested yet in the country where her sample is being tested (Russia can't test their own because they cannot be trusted). She may not be the last Russian to have delayed drug testing which will strip a medal later when/if the B sample is analyzed. Same process for everyone, adult or minor. Bad US reporting gets people upset before the final result is known.
Double standards. Horrific that they are letting her continue on. If she is an Olympian she should be held to the same standards as an other Olympian regardless of age. This is cheating at the highest level, cheating by the Olympic committee
It's because the International Olympic Committee is corrupt. Years ago they were accepting bribes and money from Salt Lake City. Now they are placating the Russians even though there's an ongoing doping program in that country.
Any moral skater under the same circumstances would have withdrawn from the competition because it goes against the moral & ethical standards of any high caliber Olympian. She may be a brilliant skater, but unfortunately this will tarnish her reputation forever. This also degrades the integrity of the Olympics in general and more specifically figure skating. Shameful!
@@moniqueengleman873 Unfortunately, you're probably right. These abusive coachiing practices are mainly seen in authoritarian countries like Russia. Sad.
Scott is right. The ROC isn't even ashamed of doping, they are flaunting it. Don't let Russians compete. Let every other country with Clean athletes get the Olympic experience they've earned!!
Very shameless. Hey, I guess it's ok to come up with a story of "Oh, I drank my gramps water from his glass," Which no one believes. Especially with this covid virus going around. Yeah, right.
This is why injured, doping, little girls who are not women have no business in women’s figure skating. I believe many Russians are using her age as a get out of jail card. I stand with Adam. Send her home. The victims are those who are clean.
Scott doesn’t mince his words. EVER. I’m glad he doesn’t, too. But I’m curious what Yamaguchi, Hughes, Kerrigan, Cohen and Kwan think. I’d assume they are FUMING.
It's not about assigning blame it's about following rules. For example, not being able to take cold medicine around an event, this year you can't compete if you test positive for covid, in 2000 China had it's bronze medals in gymnastics taken away, not for a banned substance, but because the athlete was underage. Interestingly she was not 'protected ' or offered immunity from the rules and she was younger than Kamila.
the black gymnastic was taking a drugs for a years and when she stopped to use them she could not compete...Take away all her medals! But no she has an exceptions, but without drugs she was nothing.
A gymnast in 2000 had her medal taken from her when it was found a team doctor gave her cold medication with a banned substance in it. She was the same age as this skater at the time. Even her appeal after the substance was removed from the ban list years later was denied.
I take meds for blood pressure and my doc warned me to keep the meds away from kids, because healthy people who take heart meds can end up in the hospital.
It’s coming out of the Russian team about the grandfather’s medication what a mockery. They should be banned number one for taking the drug and number two for lying. As a Canadian watching I feel the American should’ve been able to compete because her drug actually decreases performance. And this girls increases her performance and if she’s allowed to skate everything else goes out the door.What is the point of having rules
So she is admitting. There was enough in her system to test positive. What other athlete would test positive under ANY circumstances and be allowed to compete? This is messing up ALL the skaters' Olympics.
@@lisettetorres2689 Yes, he have to have transfer the drug at the same form to her without cross contamination. Drug dissolve in water and most liquid, if she took his cup and got the drug that way, she is not getting that drug, she is getting a by-product of that drug, then her digestive system would have metabolise that by-production into something else, which would not be pick up by the test. Well, not in that original form anyway. The only way her story would make sense is that the transfer happened intravenously, ie her grandpa inject himself with the drug and she then poke herself with the same needle, because the drug inside that needle would not change form, which would pick up on the test.
Thank you GOLD MEDALIST Scott Hamilton for speaking out clearly and plainly on this. This is horribly unfair to ALL of the other skaters who have CLEAN DRUG TESTS and yet are being deprived of, as you said, their Olympics moment of standing on the podiums and being awarded medals. As for Valieva, she will NEVER be the "greatest female skater of all time" because, frankly, how would we EVER know she hasn't been cheating since she was a REAL kid below age 10, and has been routinely given performance enhancing drugs since then.
@@silverpurkat it’s actually on point regarding this because “doping” is to get an advantage, for a transgender athlete, they don’t need to dope, they have the advantage built in.
Why did they even bother to test her in the first place, if the positive result wouldn’t effect her at all? 🤔 She’s 15 alright, not 5. She’s eligible to compete in Olympics, thus she should follow THEIR regulations! Her latest confession of maybe she was accidentally using grandpa’s drug, is like that cute excuse the dog eats my homework 😆
@@ludakapkina9308 40 days or so, something fishy with the lab there. Also something fishiy with the media, tara gets to keep the youngest to win gold status in this too.
How fantastic to see Scott a true American Hero, agree about this dear young lady she needs to be sent back home and ROC should not be permitted to compete. They are so corrupt.
So she can get all the benefits of being an Olympian (medals, publicity, sponsorships, etc.), just like anyone else. But when it comes to the rules, she gets special exemptions due to her age? In what world is that fair?? What a joke.
@@rajs7876 I don't understand. Why would race or country have to do with whether a coach does good or not? I understand it's a competition however, it shouldn't be made into being like a war against the other countries. It's supposed to be a special gift a person has &/or talent.
@@lindalauer1434 Its okay if thats your opinion, But most people don't feel that way. The Olympics were always designed to pitt country against country. Your coachs against theirs. Your people against theirs. Your determination against theirs. Only recently have things shifted away from patriotism, which i believe to be a big mistake. What is the point of a worldwide competition, if all the athletes are trained, coached, and live in the United States? It makes the flag your wear on your back pointless.
This is STILL an open issue because (1) it's Russia. And rules and laws don't apply to Putin and Russia. If she was "only" silver or bronze level, she would have been out of the Games for testing positive. But ... yeah ... she's gold level so exceptions must be made. Disgusting. Just 15. At the beginning of her career, and her name/accomplishments will always be tainted.
There was already a rumor of drug use at the Russian National last year, around December. I remember that, but didn't know who or whether the rumor was true. According to BBC, she was tested positive last December, yet the result didn't come to IOC until now. Again it seems that the Russian skating coaches lack a morale discipline and a sports ethics.
Scott beautifully said. Maybe it's time for Russa to not be included in any form. It's sad for her, that her career, if it survives, will forever be associated with doping.
Totally agree if your old enough to compete then you’re old enough to compete within the standards of Olympic Athletes! How can there be any Pride of winning an Olympic medal when you cheated to win… Such an unfair playing field for those clean athletes!
How sad that all these athletes caught with performance enhancing drugs come up with the lame excuses that someone slipped them a mickey in their drink. Age be dammed. A failed drug test is a failed drug test. Valieva's grandpa being the possible suspect is one for the books. Yeah, and the dog ate her homework.
She skated without drugs during the Olympics. It was back on December 25.. I don't get this about a failed drug test, not in this Olympic. Does Scott think she should be penalized the rest of her life
This is Bull that Valieva was allowed to skate. When sprinter Sha'Carri Richardson had marijuana (NOT a sports enhancer) in her system (she smoked some marijuana after her mother died), she was suspended from running which caused her to miss the Japan Olympics and her name was dragged through the mud. Valieva took a drug enhancer and was allowed to skate in the Olympics. The only difference is Ssh'Carri is black and Valieva is the weeping-white-princess. Bloody infuriating.
Race might be a factor, but other situations are at work which allowed this athlete to compete even with a positive test for drugs. Other athletes of different races, including Caucasian, have been banned for drug use...the odd thing is how Russian athletes are treated differently...they play the Olympics by their own rules.
The fact that they are not going to give out medals in real time is basis for sending her home and not allowing her to continue. The other skaters should refuse to perform until that result is achieved.
Truly tragic. She is a beautiful skater and an amazing athlete. I have no doubt that, as Scott says, she took this drug not because she wanted to, but because the Russian Olympic Committee or her trainers insisted. She is a victim. But the IOC is not doing her any favors by excusing the drug use. If they let this go, the ROC will continue doping, and will do it to other, even younger, athletes. I feel sorry for her, but she has to be DSQ-ed. And, as I have long felt, Russia is more of a criminal enterprise than a nation.
Then you should know that many athletes in the past had a questionable test result (a micro-dose of a substance, like in this case, not the full doping amount) and had it "cleared" by through court, which takes months, all the while they were allowed to compete and their confidentiality was never revealed.
If Kamila does win gold it is meaningless to everyone and is causing resentment to the others who have tested clean and now do not have an opportunity to receive their medal if they win which is a huge part of the Olympics
The other skaters should have protested. Why couldn’t they have worn a black ribbon (or some other color) around their arm, leg ext,,,, It’s just not fair. She could always come back. She is only 15 years old.
Not with the coach she has; she'll physically ruin her within the next 2 years. (Not saying she should be allowed to skate now, just pointing out the M.O. of this coach).
All the skaters from the other countries should stand on the ice rank together as one in protest saying we will not continue until this is resolved. They should because the awards ceremony will not be withheld anyway. They have all to gain and little to lose if they ban together as one voice saying Russia needs to face their consequences. Rules are rules. Honor them!
Excellent excellent idea. It is outrageous to punish everyone else because the country essentially on "probation" commits yet another crime and then screams everyone else is picking on them. I am with the other skaters who sacrificed, worked hard and followed the rules and came up short by the system supposed to look out for them. Maybe Kamila didn't know what she was taking but I bet she sure knew it was SOMETHING. Russian doping is not a novel concept.
She could come back at 19yrs old. But her body would not be as capable of doing then what she can now. It is scientifically proven that by the time you reach 18/19 your body has changed in ways that prevent you from jumping at the same capacity you do at 15. Her country stole her glory and she be over the moon with furry at them for what they've done to her. Quit pushing these kids to compete with the adults. They're kids. They should be stronger etc than an aging adult. Leave the kids in the junior olympics. And then let them compete on the adult level when they are actually adults! Duh!
If Kamila had an ounce of morality, she would withdraw and go back from where she came from -- Russsia. But sadly, she is not. Kamila will never have the respect from fellow figure skaters. Everyone should be chanting, "Send Kamila home!"
It’s the fact that after all the coverage Kaori Sakamoto and Wakaba Higuchi gave superior performances with better choreography better skating skills and Wakaba with a TRIPLE AXEL AND STILL PLACED THIRD AND FIFTH RESPECTIVELY! Make it make SENSE!!!!!!!
This is only partial information， why don't Scott disclose the whole story？ The positive drug test came back in December last year, and she took the drug because of a heart disease problem and not the doping would benefit her. Kamila's performance and technique have always been excellent and unsurpassed. It's not that stimulants can help her perform such difficult movements. Why didn't the Olympic Committee ban her from competing before February 2022? This is because there were no problems with pre-match drug testing. Why do you mention her drug test from last year is positive after Kamila has won the gold medal in the first turn? This is obviously jealous of Russia will take away the gold, silver, and bronze medals. These despicable methods are used to bully a little girl. Don't you have nightmares?
When a country is representing a neutral flag due to various circumstances, all athletes who represent this cannot dope or do other crimes!!! Neutral representation is a form of punishment! The IOC could have received drug info on Kamila prior to the Olympics just like Sha’Carri Richardson did when she tested positive for marijuana. Richardson never went to Tokyo!!! Kamila should never have arrived in Beijing for a positive drug test. Clean up your act, IOC!!!
she took the tests before European and Olympic competitions and they were clean. The "bad" test was taking during Russian nationals, and nobody control it. We know about the fight between Russian couches for the place at Olympics. Russian Federation of figure skating did not know about this test, it is crazy.
Sadly, we don't know if she would be as good as she is if she hadn't been able to benefit from banned drugs in training/performance. There was horrific abuse of girls in the US Olympic Gymnastics program and we can't turn a blind eye to possible abuse in the Russian Olympic program. We have to have learned something about letting young teens live at the mercy of the adults around them.
I feel so bad for this young girl. I saw her skate and my mouth dropped. I was so impressed I even mentioned it to my husband that he has got to see it. I thought man, she has just broken the ceiling for all those tall girls who were told they are just to big to skate competitively. Now she will have to carry this burden the rest of her life mostly on her own. Whose wise or confidante enough to go against their doctors/coaches/trainers at that age. No one. The trainers, doctors, and coaches should be banded in their fields. Permanently. Peace
I just watched her skate and was so disappointed, it was so sad!!! It was tainted for me, so wrong!!! I will never trust Russia to not dope again!!! Pathetic
i don't get, why they Russia, was allowed to compete at all? what if i lost my drivers licence then changed my name? would that allow me to get a new licence, by re branding myself?
Lol....I know right?! Ridiculous. After that many days of them having to sit around a table to discuss what would be their excuse, they failed miserably!
A positive test is a positive test regardless of her age or the circumstance. She should NOT be competing. I may never watch international or Olympic skating again.
Does the same Olympic comitee that Over sees the summer Olympics, Over see the American Olympics as well!? Cause I'm not one to throw race around, but if it is the same comitee, then to me that's not just an unfair double standard, that's straight up discrimination and racism. The black girl smokes weed to unwind during a difficult time and her Olympic career is tarnished forever, for literally using a substance thats widely legal and recreational in her home country But the white Russian girl gets a pass for not only failing a drug test, but having a drug in her system that A. Is actually found to inhance performance and B. That Was NOT prescribed to her to begin with, which is a CRIME punishable by law and has 0 reasonable explanation for it!
You will be surprised by the fact that Kamila is actually not white (she is Tatar, etnicity that cosidered as a minority in Russia, they are of mongolian and turkic origin).
Smoking weed is against federal law, it is illegal. Of course the black girl thinks everything is about her being black, because that’s all black people think about because that’s what they are told.
What harm? She is still 15 years old and she has a longer future. Just because she is a minor doesn't change the fact and it is totally unfair to others who have endured strenuous trainings to attend the Olympics games. As Adam Rippon said, it is shameful if she happily goes into the ice rink. And as Tara and Johnny said, she should be banned from competing. Doesn't she feel embarrassed? Every athlete came to come here to compete by following the rules of Olympics. She shouldn't banned under the rules.
Sadly she will not be able to make the Olympics when she is 19... she will be lucky if she can still walk, check out the coaches past young stars... most of them had horrible back injuries by the time they hit 17
I agree with Scott that once the athlete is tested positive drug test, they are automatically disqualified period! Russia is trying to use her under age as an excuse to get away with it but she is completing with adults, therefore she should be treated as an adult. So unfair for other athletes who is trying their best without cheating! Kim Yuna was cheated but she didn't talk about it but I am sure she had enough and voicing now for other athletes!
No No No, she had three different drugs in her system. All three combined enhance cardiac output. Meaning a stronger heart and less fatigue. She also has four quads in her program, plus more jumps than anyone else. This is nefarious.
Sochi was a joke, particularly in the women's singles event. Yu-na Kim should have won gold and Sotnikova shouldn't have been anywhere near the podium.
@@Schloss3868 well they obviously didn’t give it to Anna Shcherbakova or Alexandra Trusova! Why? Because they’re older and most likely don’t do as many quads.
This time at the Beijing Olympic, there was something wrong or peculiar about the scoring, judges and treatments of participants. When Ayumu Hirano should have been scored close to 100 as all of reporters agreed, his run was scored at 91.25. Her showed the anger at the medalist conference. And those who tested positive were placed in some extremely disgusting conditions, and one of them was crying and posting the poor food photos on the instagram. And this. Also the question about the disqualification based on the uniform, without any advance notice of rule change? As one of audiences of Olympics, I didn't feel comfortable from the start.
It's in China, that explains everything... Lying and Cheating is part of their culture, I lived there for 8 years I witnessed it first hand + they have to keep their strongest ally happy, Disgusting.
@@elba19 Id say Trump the GOP & FOX would win the gold Silver AND Bronze in the ccompetition for a lying cheating culture. The rest of the world turned to China, Russia Europe etc for actual leadership during the 4 year "GOON SHOW" as Trump kissed the &SS of North Korean, Chinese AND Russian Dictatorships! add Brazilian, Turkish, Philipino, and Saudi, criminals. The phony "Moral Leadership" of America Mythology has been exploded by the Trump criminal SINdicate. The "City on a Hill" is gone forever. Replaced by a giant red, white, & blue dungheap. The NEW AMERICAN CENTURY didn't last 2 decades. The UN delegates actually LITERALLY laughed in the face of the orange buffoon, Probably EVERY post war, US President, attempted or succeeded in causing a COUP during their term in office in Latin America, Asia, Middle East, and elsewhere. Trump however actually attempted a coup ON AMERICA - while HE weas President! China and other Asian countries are growing EXPONENTIALLY richer on the interest payments of the loans on an out of control US debt Volcano [that Trump added to by $8 TRILLION ! btw in a SINGLE Term!] no wonder the chinese state bank hired two floors of Trump Tower. He has basically enslaved the US economy to China etc, more than nearly the last 10 US presidents combined. The doping tragedy at the Olympics is just another symptom of money and power corrupting everything. All I am saying is that no Nation has the moral highground.
not to mention the pathetic judging, if it wasn't for that one judge that finally spoke up about what was really going on. Tonya Harding wasn't liked by them because she was poor, which the judges said was tacky ... wtf is that... even though she landed the first triple axel in competition... disgusting sport on many accounts..... and now the young girls tossed aside because of injury or puberty..
The IOC and CAS have basically condoned the doping of underage girls. Eteri Tutberidze and other unscrupulous coaches will learn this lesson: let's focus our doping on our youngest athletes since under-16 athletes will always be given a free pass. Disgusting!!
Kamila has had negative tests prior to the Olympics and during the Olympics. So why are they not talking to that ? They are concerned about a test that was taken in December, that was mishandled for 43 days.
The young lady should have just pulled out of the competition. Because she competed, she will always be remembered for this. If she had removed herself from the competition, it wouldn't have been such a hot topic. Does not matter what her age is, she's playing in the big leagues, and she and her coaching staff should have to abide by the same rules as the adults. The excuse that not letting her complete could hurt her is just ludicrous. What about the current contestants and the past contestants? Obviously, the committee didn't take the current contestants into consideration. This just blew the door wide open to use the excuse of, but it was cross contamination.
The sprinter that was banned for pot should be upset!!! The athletes that metal and don't get a ceremony should also be upset!!!! This is outrageous!!!
I agree with you Scott 100% I remember you talking to me how your ear was all plugged up at the Olympics when I was training that year in Denver. We would have never taken anything and risked our dreams and everyone else's dreams. I am really heart broken to the core all of this is happening. Stay Safe and Healthy.😊❤
ROC is Russia there in all their athletes should be suspended from these Olympics. Loose all medals as theses are the Olympics to show your countries flag, which they can not do because of doping. She knew what she was talking just as her coaches did. A clear violation of the Olympics rules. While American was not able to complete for a drug that was not listed. Then another one as Scott said, The IOC will be sued and loose. She may not be seeking them out but their coaches and Russia are.
Keep in mind that Valieva tested clean for this Olympics, and also tested clean in all but that one test from 6 or 7 weeks ago. Also she tested positive for 3 heart medications, 2 of which are not banned, and the banned one is known to be tested for since it has been detected before with other athletes, and it seem unlikely to deliberately use a drug that is known to be tested for. Until the investigation is completed, which could result in her being cleared, she should be allowed to compete. If the investigation finds she deliberately doped, they could take away the medal afterwards. That was one of the points made during arbitration.
@@SK-vj5nb - there have been cases of US athletes, including gold medal winners, testing positive for banned substances, but they were not banned. Depends on the circumstances.
@@SK-vj5nb - each drug test is two samples, A and B. Either the B sample showed up negative, or it hasn't been tested yet. The court of arbitration is waiting for the B sample results as well as other factors before deciding she truly tested positive (which requires both tests), and other factors to decide if she is responsible. They aren't following their own rules of having both tests show positive, so technically, she hadn't tested positive yet.
My belief is once you test for drugs you should never ever be able to compete because you’re already a cheater. And not include any team anywhere that is just my belief. I can’t watch these Olympics anymore because of how the way China and Russia cheats
All the awesome skaters have been working all of their lives for this special moment at the 2022 Olympics. Now because of one person Kamila, there will be no metal ceremony, what is fair about that? They should have sent her home so they approved her to compete so she can cheat!
Thomas Bach's remarks are the pinnacle of hypocrisy. In this season, Kamila's doping test results were clean at four international competitions, but only the test for the Russian national competition showed polluted result. Therefore, this case required a thorough investigation and verification, but there was not enough time. As CAS rejected IOC's indictment to ban Kamila's participation in individual competition, the IOC should have announced that IOC would normally award medals for the results of the game, but that medal and record could be deprived if Kamila did intentional doping. The IOC's shocking announcement "If Kamila stands on podium, medal award ceremony would be canceled" must have acted as tons of pressure on Kamila, And this IOC's Threat made her step down from the podium by herself. As a result, the IOC brutally threatened a young girl under the age of 16 to take the bronze medal from Russia and give it to Japan. Furthermore this ultimately made it impossible to watch Kamila's performance in full of heavenly and mysterious beauty, which all figure fans around the world wanted to see. The IOC should take the greatest responsibility for this!
By the way, being on drugs or medication on thin sharp blades of steel with a thick layer of solid ice underneath you is definitely asking for permanent damage. Especially, while competing.
Well, these were specifically PEDs. You could argue the same with something like taking PEDs in baseball with a hard ball rushing at you at 70+ mph. The bottom line is, this is to cheat, not for a headache, or daily medication.
@@aidanlutz8106 Even still tho, anyone, her grandpa, a friend, an acquaintance could have slipped it into her drink or food with her not knowing. Especially, with what is going on with Russia right now.
@@durtyragoux Oh really . I used to ice skate every weekend & loved spinning along with skating with a friend of mine years ago. Also, had a daughter fall on ice to where her ankle was completely sideways. I have also work in an ER being to first one to sign patients in & call for the triage nurse. Damage can happen from a fall & yes, definitely those blades can cut through skin. Ever watch hockey in person? Very fun to do & can be bloody. Your just trying to start crap because of some kind of insecurity. Your not bothering me with your comment, lol.
@@lindalauer1434 PED's don't make someone more prone to ice skating accidents, suggesting otherwise is absurd. Also, the idea that someone faked her test results is equally mindless, especially when she and her handlers are making ridiculous excuses for the drugs presence. I think your experience as an ER receptionist, or whatever, doesn't exactly make you an expert on the subject, to say the least. I simply find your points inane and unnecessary, and a feeble attempt at being relevant. That's all I was trying to say, no offense.
It's irreparable harm to allow her to skate for her as well. Allowing her to skate condones a system of child abuse and allows the system to continue abusing her.
Recall Sergei Grinkov, who won 2 Olympics and died due to a heart attack when wearing skates at the age of 28. About a quarter of myocardial infarctions happen without specific premonitory symptoms. While therapeutic use of prohibited substances is possible - why is disease prevention forbidden?.. I don't say that the prohibition was intentionally violated - I say that the prohibition to prevent severe diseases is unethical. Each organism is unique and may need personalized aproach to disease prevention and treatment.
The difference here is that Sergei's father died at 50 of the same thing that killed him. And Ekaterina Gordeeva (his wife) has said Sergei was clean. One other point about Sergei Grinkov, he was apparently recovering from a back injury at the time, so the speculation is he believed the back pain he was feeling was from the injury. In younger people heart problems present themselves as back or jaw pain. Had he suspected it wasn't from injury he might have gone to a doctor, where the blockage could have been spotted, and he would've had bypass surgery.
If it were anyone but a Russian (and not saying it's her personal fault), she would be suspended, she would cry, some would feel sorry for her, and she would come back in four years at age 19 and in eight years at age 23. Being a female Russian skater, she will be spit out of the system there before the next Olympics in Italy and there will be another 15- or 16-year old phenom, with or without PEDs. That is an equally sickening scandal: how the Russian Skating Federation treats its female athletes.
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If she is old enough to compete in the big league, then she needs to be held to the same standards as the 16 + year olds also in the big league. Doesn't matter if she knew she was taking an illegal substance or not. Same standard for everyone no matter their age. Simple as that.
If you are at the Olympics representing your country, how, with good conscience, can one continue representing that country when you learn that it is a notoriously known, state-run doping machine? As an athlete from the age of 12-years-old, if not younger, you are taught about the great harm to your bodies the ILLEGALLY banned, drug-enhancing substances can have on you, as well as the risk you would be taking, concerning the future of your sport's career.
During that educational process, these young minors also learn RIGHT from WRONG, and that breaking the International rules should be avoided at all costs.
If Kamila Valiyeva learned this as a junior figure skater, and she now competes on an adult level against other adults, then how can they continue to use her age as their go-to justification, their excuse for this outrageous violation? After all, it's her body, and her choice, as to what she ingests.
She knew and could've said NO!!! She knew the rules on doping!!! Not buying into the mess that is Russian doping!!
But those arent the rules. Maybe they can change the rules.
@@emerald637 BINGO!! Russia will DO ANYTHING to win at all cost
Absolutely agreed with your comment.
Every athlete registered in an adult competition must be held to the same standards and regulations regardless of their age.
That's ridiculous.
Children aren't accountable for actions that their sport leaders (in absence of their parents) pressure them to do.
The adults around her should be held legally accountable, because it's child abuse when they don't act in the child's best interest, for example by giving them drugs without sickness/symptoms.
There are too many sports today in which children are abused, as they are trained professionally to compete as adults, before their bodies are ready and their minds are mature enough to make decisions of their own.
Children should not be allowed to compete as adults and prize money should not be allowed for children's sports
They need to change the rules and not let anyone under 16 compete at the Olympics.
You may very well be correct, and perhaps the rules should be amended for future competitions. That being said, the established rules require that she be treated as a "protected person" if under the age of 16.
@@LamLawIndy What does that even mean? Protected Person?
Sounds strikingly similar to bleeding heart, liberal socialist policy:
"Help someone to their own detriment".
Here's the kicker. By trying to save one person from "Irreparable harm", they have likely put dozens, if not hundreds of young athletes at risk. Now every shady country will be doping up their kids, because they know that they can get away with it.
This is not because she is a minor. It is because the B has not been tested yet in the country where her sample is being tested (Russia can't test their own because they cannot be trusted). She may not be the last Russian to have delayed drug testing which will strip a medal later when/if the B sample is analyzed. Same process for everyone, adult or minor.
Bad US reporting gets people upset before the final result is known.
Double standards. Horrific that they are letting her continue on. If she is an Olympian she should be held to the same standards as an other Olympian regardless of age. This is cheating at the highest level, cheating by the Olympic committee
LIKE LETTING MEN COMPETE AS WOMEN?
@@mikebrigs1218 Go watch a nice episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, honey. It'll do you some good.
@@realamerican5969 NO THANKS LOSER. THATS MORE YOUR SPEED.
It's because the International Olympic Committee is corrupt. Years ago they were accepting bribes and money from Salt Lake City. Now they are placating the Russians even though there's an ongoing doping program in that country.
Follow the money
I agree with Scott, all the other skaters are being penalized because of Russian doping again. How do they think this affects all the other skaters.
Agreed, however what if she were a man?
Any moral skater under the same circumstances would have withdrawn from the competition because it goes against the moral & ethical standards of any high caliber Olympian. She may be a brilliant skater, but unfortunately this will tarnish her reputation forever. This also degrades the integrity of the Olympics in general and more specifically figure skating. Shameful!
I doubt she has any say in what is happening.
@@moniqueengleman873 Unfortunately, you're probably right. These abusive coachiing practices are mainly seen in authoritarian countries like Russia. Sad.
Scott is right. The ROC isn't even ashamed of doping, they are flaunting it. Don't let Russians compete. Let every other country with Clean athletes get the Olympic experience they've earned!!
Very shameless. Hey, I guess it's ok to come up with a story of "Oh, I drank my gramps water from his glass," Which no one believes. Especially with this covid virus going around. Yeah, right.
Double standards? Do you know how many "banned" substances are allowed as "exemptions" to US, Canadian athletes? You would be surprised if you knew.
You are living in your fantasy, wake up
Right on, Val!
@@karenmom2001 You make me let out a huge groan…..uhhhhhhhh
I say Bullchit. Her age don't matter. She's a professional athlete. Laws & rules apply equally or not at all. Scott's right... Ludicrous
This is why injured, doping, little girls who are not women have no business in women’s figure skating. I believe many Russians are using her age as a get out of jail card. I stand with Adam. Send her home. The victims are those who are clean.
10000% using her age. They knew it was a loophole and jumped through it
Love to watch Kamila skate...she's technically and artistically beautiful. However...not fair to the rest of the athletes.😩
First of all it is not fair to Kamila, because she did not know about all this game, or she was under presser to do what she did.
This is ridiculous. Doping is Doping. The entire Russian Team should be banned. I am sick of this garbage.
Quads, Triple Axels, Double Standards
And loopholes, apparently!
Good one! 🤣
Scott doesn’t mince his words. EVER. I’m glad he doesn’t, too. But I’m curious what Yamaguchi, Hughes, Kerrigan, Cohen and Kwan think. I’d assume they are FUMING.
I'd imagine Kwan is fuming.
I think a lot of skaters from across the globe are upset
@@mokumizu4318 I think YOU'RE a dope!
Yamaguchi & Hughes have shared their thoughts on this drama. Google it.
It's not about assigning blame it's about following rules. For example, not being able to take cold medicine around an event, this year you can't compete if you test positive for covid, in 2000 China had it's bronze medals in gymnastics taken away, not for a banned substance, but because the athlete was underage. Interestingly she was not 'protected ' or offered immunity from the rules and she was younger than Kamila.
So many double standards especially where Russia is concerned.
Oh snap, Stefania! Great points on you!!
the black gymnastic was taking a drugs for a years and when she stopped to use them she could not compete...Take away all her medals! But no she has an exceptions, but without drugs she was nothing.
A gymnast in 2000 had her medal taken from her when it was found a team doctor gave her cold medication with a banned substance in it. She was the same age as this skater at the time. Even her appeal after the substance was removed from the ban list years later was denied.
Rules have always been different for Russia. Then the IOC wonders why they continue to dope.
I have 3 family members who've had heart trouble, at different times, and I have NEVER 'accidentally' taken their meds.
I take meds for blood pressure and my doc warned me to keep the meds away from kids, because healthy people who take heart meds can end up in the hospital.
Right! Silly. And pathetically unbelievable.
It’s coming out of the Russian team about the grandfather’s medication what a mockery. They should be banned number one for taking the drug and number two for lying. As a Canadian watching I feel the American should’ve been able to compete because her drug actually decreases performance. And this girls increases her performance and if she’s allowed to skate everything else goes out the door.What is the point of having rules
I think the grand parents took the responsibility to protect Kamila, because it was scary to pointed on somebody else.
Agreed. It blesses Russia’s continued cheating.
So she is admitting. There was enough in her system to test positive. What other athlete would test positive under ANY circumstances and be allowed to compete? This is messing up ALL the skaters' Olympics.
she difinitely took a lot of grandpa's medication🤔
I read an article that there was no way that a cross contamination could occur unless her grandpa spat in her mouth
@@lisettetorres2689 Yes, he have to have transfer the drug at the same form to her without cross contamination. Drug dissolve in water and most liquid, if she took his cup and got the drug that way, she is not getting that drug, she is getting a by-product of that drug, then her digestive system would have metabolise that by-production into something else, which would not be pick up by the test. Well, not in that original form anyway.
The only way her story would make sense is that the transfer happened intravenously, ie her grandpa inject himself with the drug and she then poke herself with the same needle, because the drug inside that needle would not change form, which would pick up on the test.
Thank you GOLD MEDALIST Scott Hamilton for speaking out clearly and plainly on this. This is horribly unfair to ALL of the other skaters who have CLEAN DRUG TESTS and yet are being deprived of, as you said, their Olympics moment of standing on the podiums and being awarded medals. As for Valieva, she will NEVER be the "greatest female skater of all time" because, frankly, how would we EVER know she hasn't been cheating since she was a REAL kid below age 10, and has been routinely given performance enhancing drugs since then.
And what about men competing as women?
@@Kingfisher1215 While i agree with on this subject it’s irrelevant to this situation and a distraction right now.
@@Kingfisher1215 Don't feed the dumb, right-wing troll.
@@silverpurkat it’s actually on point regarding this because “doping” is to get an advantage, for a transgender athlete, they don’t need to dope, they have the advantage built in.
@@petelancaster6715 because folks like you are outraged by doping but are just fine with gender advantage.
Why did they even bother to test her in the first place, if the positive result wouldn’t effect her at all? 🤔 She’s 15 alright, not 5. She’s eligible to compete in Olympics, thus she should follow THEIR regulations! Her latest confession of maybe she was accidentally using grandpa’s drug, is like that cute excuse the dog eats my homework 😆
Her coaches never thought she'd be caught.
everything happened like this, because the test did not come in time. It was somewhere more than a month.
Stay blind, it helps
@@ludakapkina9308 40 days or so, something fishy with the lab there. Also something fishiy with the media, tara gets to keep the youngest to win gold status in this too.
The corruption surrounding the Olympics has convinced me that "sports" has lost integrity to the point that I will NEVER watch the Olympics, again!
I refuse to paint the entire Olympics and all of the athletes who work hard and sacrifice so much with the same brush.
I haven't watched 1 item from these games...not missing them...
@@howler6490 You must be "missing them" if you take the time to comment so broadly on something you admit you haven't even watched.
If corruption is a problem for you, why were you watching before? Have you ignored the history of Olympics corruption until now?
go to mommy, lil Terry, give a cry xD
How fantastic to see Scott a true American Hero, agree about this dear young lady she needs to be sent back home and ROC should not be permitted to compete. They are so corrupt.
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Irene Koleshnikova is the bot. The whole world knows Russia cheats.
@@vatuska Russia cheaters
What an absolute farce! She needs to go home and be held accountable like every other athlete.
if she was like everybody, she did not be what she is. Every law has some exceptions.
@@ludakapkina9308 Why are you defending her?
So she can get all the benefits of being an Olympian (medals, publicity, sponsorships, etc.), just like anyone else. But when it comes to the rules, she gets special exemptions due to her age? In what world is that fair?? What a joke.
It is really weird. If you compete in senior competitions you should be treated like everyone that is in the same competition!
So let me get this straight: She’s old enough to compete, but not old enough to be responsible?
Scott Hamilton has always been one of my favorite skaters to watch compete.
He definitely is a great guy.
He was praising a Eteri's coaching methods like 2 or 3 days ago
@@rajs7876 I don't understand.
Why would race or country have to do with whether a coach does good or not?
I understand it's a competition however, it shouldn't be made into being like a war against the other countries.
It's supposed to be a special gift a person has &/or talent.
@@lindalauer1434 Its okay if thats your opinion, But most people don't feel that way.
The Olympics were always designed to pitt country against country. Your coachs against theirs. Your people against theirs. Your determination against theirs.
Only recently have things shifted away from patriotism, which i believe to be a big mistake.
What is the point of a worldwide competition, if all the athletes are trained, coached, and live in the United States? It makes the flag your wear on your back pointless.
I love him too. Always have. My hero.
I love him as a skater and I really miss him as a commentator as well.
This is STILL an open issue because (1) it's Russia. And rules and laws don't apply to Putin and Russia.
If she was "only" silver or bronze level, she would have been out of the Games for testing positive. But ... yeah ... she's gold level so exceptions must be made. Disgusting.
Just 15. At the beginning of her career, and her name/accomplishments will always be tainted.
There was already a rumor of drug use at the Russian National last year, around December. I remember that, but didn't know who or whether the rumor was true. According to BBC, she was tested positive last December, yet the result didn't come to IOC until now. Again it seems that the Russian skating coaches lack a morale discipline and a sports ethics.
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@@vatuska That coach will do anything…especially cheat…to win. Everyone knows that.
Scott beautifully said. Maybe it's time for Russa to not be included in any form. It's sad for her, that her career, if it survives, will forever be associated with doping.
Totally agree if your old enough to compete then you’re old enough to compete within the standards of Olympic Athletes! How can there be any Pride of winning an Olympic medal when you cheated to win… Such an unfair playing field for those clean athletes!
Harm has been done to clean athletes
And in the ncaa, to naturally born female athletes.
Why do minors even have to submit doping tests if there are no consequences for testing positive?
Scott Hamilton is right! The integrity of the sport has been tainted. I no longer feel the same anymore especially for the Olympics!
Who gave her the drugs? Maybe the ioc should not let anyone under 18 compete.
How sad that all these athletes caught with performance enhancing drugs come up with the lame excuses that someone slipped them a mickey in their drink. Age be dammed. A failed drug test is a failed drug test. Valieva's grandpa being the possible suspect is one for the books. Yeah, and the dog ate her homework.
Please Just Stop: She is not a "marvelous' skater". She is a "marvelous 'drug enhanced' skater".
She skated without drugs during the Olympics. It was back on December 25.. I don't get this about a failed drug test, not in this Olympic. Does Scott think she should be penalized the rest of her life
This is Bull that Valieva was allowed to skate. When sprinter Sha'Carri Richardson had marijuana (NOT a sports enhancer) in her system (she smoked some marijuana after her mother died), she was suspended from running which caused her to miss the Japan Olympics and her name was dragged through the mud. Valieva took a drug enhancer and was allowed to skate in the Olympics. The only difference is Ssh'Carri is black and Valieva is the weeping-white-princess. Bloody infuriating.
Race might be a factor, but other situations are at work which allowed this athlete to compete even with a positive test for drugs. Other athletes of different races, including Caucasian, have been banned for drug use...the odd thing is how Russian athletes are treated differently...they play the Olympics by their own rules.
What is Bull is that you bring race into an argument that isn’t about race.
shes also a child. its not all about race
@@Kingfisher1215 You are correct...decision is not about race.
The fact that they are not going to give out medals in real time is basis for sending her home and not allowing her to continue. The other skaters should refuse to perform until that result is achieved.
Truly tragic. She is a beautiful skater and an amazing athlete. I have no doubt that, as Scott says, she took this drug not because she wanted to, but because the Russian Olympic Committee or her trainers insisted.
She is a victim. But the IOC is not doing her any favors by excusing the drug use. If they let this go, the ROC will continue doping, and will do it to other, even younger, athletes.
I feel sorry for her, but she has to be DSQ-ed. And, as I have long felt, Russia is more of a criminal enterprise than a nation.
*I feel horribly for this young lady, but she has tested positive for a banned substance.*
*I won’t watch something I cannot trust, period.* 🤷🏻♀️
Then you should know that many athletes in the past had a questionable test result (a micro-dose of a substance, like in this case, not the full doping amount) and had it "cleared" by through court, which takes months, all the while they were allowed to compete and their confidentiality was never revealed.
Every adult who has ever failed Kamila Valieva, and there are many, needs to me abruptly removed from her life
If she is 15 years old, she can come back clean in four years and compete.
Not if you are from russia. All russian figure skaters basically retire after 16 years old with injuries and are replaced with younger skaters.
no matter what you are involved with, if there are rules and guidelines that apply, and you don't meet them then you are disqualified !! period !!
Scotty Hamilton is right. Send her home.
Simple solution. If minors cannot be held to the same rules, then ban all minors.
Set an age limit. That is the only way forward.
Absolutely disgusting and disgraceful from the court of arbitration. Insane excuses from the ego mind, this needs to be sorted out once and for all.
Yup. If she were a transgender man, it would all be just fine.
@@Kingfisher1215 are you still taking the drugs?
@@user-bu9nb8wr6e Don't you know that first US transgender will be competing in women's figure skating soon?
@@creativelife108 no I didn't and it's another subject. Most probably agree with you though lol
If Kamila does win gold it is meaningless to everyone and is causing resentment to the others who have tested clean and now do not have an opportunity to receive their medal if they win which is a huge part of the Olympics
She had three drugs in her system and she can skate. I’d like to sell CAS a bridge in Brooklyn if they buy Valievas story. What a joke.
I felt sorry for her...but I believe that she was lying about what happened during her testimony the grandfather mix up with medication...DISQUALIFIED
The other skaters should have protested. Why couldn’t they have worn a black ribbon (or some other color) around their arm, leg ext,,,, It’s just not fair. She could always come back. She is only 15 years old.
Not with the coach she has; she'll physically ruin her within the next 2 years. (Not saying she should be allowed to skate now, just pointing out the M.O. of this coach).
All the skaters from the other countries should stand on the ice rank together as one in protest saying we will not continue until this is resolved. They should because the awards ceremony will not be withheld anyway. They have all to gain and little to lose if they ban together as one voice saying Russia needs to face their consequences. Rules are rules. Honor them!
Excellent excellent idea. It is outrageous to punish everyone else because the country essentially on "probation" commits yet another crime and then screams everyone else is picking on them. I am with the other skaters who sacrificed, worked hard and followed the rules and came up short by the system supposed to look out for them. Maybe Kamila didn't know what she was taking but I bet she sure knew it was SOMETHING. Russian doping is not a novel concept.
She could come back at 19yrs old. But her body would not be as capable of doing then what she can now. It is scientifically proven that by the time you reach 18/19 your body has changed in ways that prevent you from jumping at the same capacity you do at 15. Her country stole her glory and she be over the moon with furry at them for what they've done to her. Quit pushing these kids to compete with the adults. They're kids. They should be stronger etc than an aging adult. Leave the kids in the junior olympics. And then let them compete on the adult level when they are actually adults! Duh!
Eteri wont let her. All Eteri girls only last one Olympic cycle, if they are even lucky enough to go to the Olympics. After that, they are replaced.
If Kamila had an ounce of morality, she would withdraw and go back from where she came from -- Russsia. But sadly, she is not. Kamila will never have the respect from fellow figure skaters. Everyone should be chanting, "Send Kamila home!"
It’s the fact that after all the coverage Kaori Sakamoto and Wakaba Higuchi gave superior performances with better choreography better skating skills and Wakaba with a TRIPLE AXEL AND STILL PLACED THIRD AND FIFTH RESPECTIVELY! Make it make SENSE!!!!!!!
I agree. I watched the skating and thought Kaori Sakamoto was flawless. The judging has definitely been an issue these games.
Russia needs to lean that proper sportsmanship comes first, gold medals second
She needs to follow the rules like all others.The Russians are always causing troubles with doping!
This is only partial information， why don't Scott disclose the whole story？ The positive drug test came back in December last year, and she took the drug because of a heart disease problem and not the doping would benefit her. Kamila's performance and technique have always been excellent and unsurpassed. It's not that stimulants can help her perform such difficult movements. Why didn't the Olympic Committee ban her from competing before February 2022? This is because there were no problems with pre-match drug testing. Why do you mention her drug test from last year is positive after Kamila has won the gold medal in the first turn? This is obviously jealous of Russia will take away the gold, silver, and bronze medals. These despicable methods are used to bully a little girl. Don't you have nightmares?
When a country is representing a neutral flag due to various circumstances, all athletes who represent this cannot dope or do other crimes!!! Neutral representation is a form of punishment! The IOC could have received drug info on Kamila prior to the Olympics just like Sha’Carri Richardson did when she tested positive for marijuana. Richardson never went to Tokyo!!! Kamila should never have arrived in Beijing for a positive drug test. Clean up your act, IOC!!!
she took the tests before European and Olympic competitions and they were clean. The "bad"
test was taking during Russian nationals, and nobody control it. We know about the fight between Russian couches for the place at Olympics. Russian Federation of figure skating did not know about this test, it is crazy.
Scott..you are the days when Ice Skating was strong and powerful, and exciting. Your back flip thou! Miss you!
Too bad, doping equals disqualification 😎
Sadly, we don't know if she would be as good as she is if she hadn't been able to benefit from banned drugs in training/performance. There was horrific abuse of girls in the US Olympic Gymnastics program and we can't turn a blind eye to possible abuse in the Russian Olympic program. We have to have learned something about letting young teens live at the mercy of the adults around them.
The most important thing I learned from this video is that there is a chat for everyone who is an Olympic gold medalist
*American Olympic Gold Medalists
I feel so bad for this young girl. I saw her skate and my mouth dropped. I was so impressed I even mentioned it to my husband that he has got to see it.
I thought man, she has just broken the ceiling for all those tall girls who were told they are just to big to skate competitively.
Now she will have to carry this burden the rest of her life mostly on her own.
Whose wise or confidante enough to go against their doctors/coaches/trainers at that age. No one.
The trainers, doctors, and coaches should be banded in their fields.
Permanently.
Peace
I just watched her skate and was so disappointed, it was so sad!!! It was tainted for me, so wrong!!! I will never trust Russia to not dope again!!! Pathetic
i don't get, why they Russia, was allowed to compete at all?
what if i lost my drivers licence then changed my name?
would that allow me to get a new licence, by re branding myself?
Did he just called her the greatest? She's on drug . Shes not a victim.
So her grandfather baby-birded his food and heart medicine to her... interesting...
It’s a weak excuse
Lol....I know right?! Ridiculous. After that many days of them having to sit around a table to discuss what would be their excuse, they failed miserably!
A positive test is a positive test regardless of her age or the circumstance. She should NOT be competing. I may never watch international or Olympic skating again.
Does the same Olympic comitee that Over sees the summer Olympics, Over see the American Olympics as well!? Cause I'm not one to throw race around, but if it is the same comitee, then to me that's not just an unfair double standard, that's straight up discrimination and racism. The black girl smokes weed to unwind during a difficult time and her Olympic career is tarnished forever, for literally using a substance thats widely legal and recreational in her home country
But the white Russian girl gets a pass for not only failing a drug test, but having a drug in her system that A. Is actually found to inhance performance and B. That Was NOT prescribed to her to begin with, which is a CRIME punishable by law and has 0 reasonable explanation for it!
You will be surprised by the fact that Kamila is actually not white (she is Tatar, etnicity that cosidered as a minority in Russia, they are of mongolian and turkic origin).
Smoking weed is against federal law, it is illegal. Of course the black girl thinks everything is about her being black, because that’s all black people think about because that’s what they are told.
Send her home
What harm? She is still 15 years old and she has a longer future. Just because she is a minor doesn't change the fact and it is totally unfair to others who have endured strenuous trainings to attend the Olympics games. As Adam Rippon said, it is shameful if she happily goes into the ice rink. And as Tara and Johnny said, she should be banned from competing. Doesn't she feel embarrassed? Every athlete came to come here to compete by following the rules of Olympics. She shouldn't banned under the rules.
And according to BBC, there were 3 different substances that were found inside the body.
I would like to see Valieva withdraw from the 2022 competition, learn from it and focus on the next Olympics.
She still had Olympics when she is 19. This was a injustice to her bc she will carry this cloud for the rest of her career
Sadly she will not be able to make the Olympics when she is 19... she will be lucky if she can still walk, check out the coaches past young stars... most of them had horrible back injuries by the time they hit 17
Bring back Scott Hamilton to announcing figure skating!! Why they removed him is beyond me.
I agree with Scott that once the athlete is tested positive drug test, they are automatically disqualified period! Russia is trying to use her under age as an excuse to get away with it but she is completing with adults, therefore she should be treated as an adult. So unfair for other athletes who is trying their best without cheating! Kim Yuna was cheated but she didn't talk about it but I am sure she had enough and voicing now for other athletes!
Comparing athlete under real drugs and Valieva. What a joke. Heroin has no positive effect for athlet's result too. Why disqualify?
No No No, she had three different drugs in her system. All three combined enhance cardiac output.
Meaning a stronger heart and less fatigue. She also has four quads in her program, plus more jumps than anyone else.
This is nefarious.
Is this first time for Russian indeed?
Sochi was also controversial.
Sochi was a joke, particularly in the women's singles event. Yu-na Kim should have won gold and Sotnikova shouldn't have been anywhere near the podium.
I think the doctor with Eteri and she are the ones who should be investigated completely. No telling what they gave the girl
Girls - how could one believe they would they would just give it to one person.
@@Schloss3868 well they obviously didn’t give it to Anna Shcherbakova or Alexandra Trusova! Why? Because they’re older and most likely don’t do as many quads.
This time at the Beijing Olympic, there was something wrong or peculiar about the scoring, judges and treatments of participants. When Ayumu Hirano should have been scored close to 100 as all of reporters agreed, his run was scored at 91.25. Her showed the anger at the medalist conference. And those who tested positive were placed in some extremely disgusting conditions, and one of them was crying and posting the poor food photos on the instagram. And this. Also the question about the disqualification based on the uniform, without any advance notice of rule change? As one of audiences of Olympics, I didn't feel comfortable from the start.
It's in China, that explains everything... Lying and Cheating is part of their culture, I lived there for 8 years I witnessed it first hand + they have to keep their strongest ally happy, Disgusting.
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@@elba19 Id say Trump the GOP & FOX would win the gold Silver AND Bronze in the ccompetition for a lying cheating culture. The rest of the world turned to China, Russia Europe etc for actual leadership during the 4 year "GOON SHOW" as Trump kissed the &SS of North Korean, Chinese AND Russian Dictatorships! add Brazilian, Turkish, Philipino, and Saudi, criminals.
The phony "Moral Leadership" of America Mythology has been exploded by the Trump criminal SINdicate. The "City on a Hill" is gone forever. Replaced by a giant red, white, & blue dungheap. The NEW AMERICAN CENTURY didn't last 2 decades. The UN delegates actually LITERALLY laughed in the face of the orange buffoon, Probably EVERY post war, US President, attempted or succeeded in causing a COUP during their term in office in Latin America, Asia, Middle East, and elsewhere. Trump however actually attempted a coup ON AMERICA - while HE weas President!
China and other Asian countries are growing EXPONENTIALLY richer on the interest payments of the loans on an out of control US debt Volcano [that Trump added to by $8 TRILLION ! btw in a SINGLE Term!] no wonder the chinese state bank hired two floors of Trump Tower. He has basically enslaved the US economy to China etc, more than nearly the last 10 US presidents combined.
The doping tragedy at the Olympics is just another symptom of money and power corrupting everything. All I am saying is that no Nation has the moral highground.
"Cross contamination"? They don't know facts but still letting her go ahead? The Olympics can't even be uncorrupt.
not to mention the pathetic judging, if it wasn't for that one judge that finally spoke up about what was really going on. Tonya Harding wasn't liked by them because she was poor, which the judges said was tacky ... wtf is that... even though she landed the first triple axel in competition... disgusting sport on many accounts..... and now the young girls tossed aside because of injury or puberty..
The IOC and CAS have basically condoned the doping of underage girls. Eteri Tutberidze and other unscrupulous coaches will learn this lesson: let's focus our doping on our youngest athletes since under-16 athletes will always be given a free pass. Disgusting!!
Kamila has had negative tests prior to the Olympics and during the Olympics. So why are they not talking to that ? They are concerned about a test that was taken in December, that was mishandled for 43 days.
Exactly. WTF?
The whole thing is WRONG!!!! She should NOT be able to compete...... End of story.
Yes, it's been confirmed 3-different heart medications found in her system
Russia should not be allowed to compete in the next Olympics!
Richardson couldn't run but she got to skate? Hitting the bong extra angrily tonight. I smoked clean!!!
The young lady should have just pulled out of the competition.
Because she competed, she will always be remembered for this.
If she had removed herself from the competition, it wouldn't have been such a hot topic.
Does not matter what her age is, she's playing in the big leagues, and she and her coaching staff should have to abide by the same rules as the adults.
The excuse that not letting her complete could hurt her is just ludicrous. What about the current contestants and the past contestants? Obviously, the committee didn't take the current contestants into consideration.
This just blew the door wide open to use the excuse of, but it was cross contamination.
The sprinter that was banned for pot should be upset!!! The athletes that metal and don't get a ceremony should also be upset!!!! This is outrageous!!!
She is.
I agree with you Scott 100% I remember you talking to me how your ear was all plugged up at the Olympics when I was training that year in Denver. We would have never taken anything and risked our dreams and everyone else's dreams. I am really heart broken to the core all of this is happening. Stay Safe and Healthy.😊❤
You trained with Scott?
@@karabrodsky2852 Yes at the same rink for a short time with the same coach.
@@brendastevens9077 That is awesome. Thank you for sharing that. Have you stopped ice skating?
@@karabrodsky2852 Yes I retired at 25. However I Compete in National Ballroom and Latin Competitions Now.
@@brendastevens9077 Wow, that is fantastic. Thank you for sharing. I love watching ballroom dancing.
This is not right. Even if she won she should not medal. If you let this go it opens the door for others to ignore the rules.
ROC is Russia there in all their athletes should be suspended from these Olympics. Loose all medals as theses are the Olympics to show your countries flag, which they can not do because of doping.
She knew what she was talking just as her coaches did. A clear violation of the Olympics rules. While American was not able to complete for a drug that was not listed.
Then another one as Scott said, The IOC will be sued and loose. She may not be seeking them out but their coaches and Russia are.
Keep in mind that Valieva tested clean for this Olympics, and also tested clean in all but that one test from 6 or 7 weeks ago. Also she tested positive for 3 heart medications, 2 of which are not banned, and the banned one is known to be tested for since it has been detected before with other athletes, and it seem unlikely to deliberately use a drug that is known to be tested for. Until the investigation is completed, which could result in her being cleared, she should be allowed to compete. If the investigation finds she deliberately doped, they could take away the medal afterwards. That was one of the points made during arbitration.
Once you have drugs in your system she’s a cheater. And she should be banned. I am so done with excuses
@@SK-vj5nb - there have been cases of US athletes, including gold medal winners, testing positive for banned substances, but they were not banned. Depends on the circumstances.
@@rcgldr no one cheated like . They should be banned forever. All of them.
@@SK-vj5nb - each drug test is two samples, A and B. Either the B sample showed up negative, or it hasn't been tested yet. The court of arbitration is waiting for the B sample results as well as other factors before deciding she truly tested positive (which requires both tests), and other factors to decide if she is responsible. They aren't following their own rules of having both tests show positive, so technically, she hadn't tested positive yet.
My belief is once you test for drugs you should never ever be able to compete because you’re already a cheater. And not include any team anywhere that is just my belief. I can’t watch these Olympics anymore because of how the way China and Russia cheats
All the awesome skaters have been working all of their lives for this special moment at the 2022 Olympics. Now because of one person Kamila, there will be no metal ceremony, what is fair about that? They should have sent her home so they approved her to compete so she can cheat!
No 15 yr old should be allowed to compete as an adult. No 15 yr old is legally held to adult standards. This is child abuse.
Double standard sounds about White
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Thomas Bach's remarks are the pinnacle of hypocrisy.
In this season, Kamila's doping test results were clean at four international competitions,
but only the test for the Russian national competition showed polluted result.
Therefore, this case required a thorough investigation and verification, but there was not enough time.
As CAS rejected IOC's indictment to ban Kamila's participation in individual competition,
the IOC should have announced that IOC would normally award medals for the results of the game,
but that medal and record could be deprived if Kamila did intentional doping.
The IOC's shocking announcement "If Kamila stands on podium, medal award ceremony would be canceled" must have acted as tons of pressure on Kamila,
And this IOC's Threat made her step down from the podium by herself.
As a result, the IOC brutally threatened a young girl under the age of 16 to take the bronze medal from Russia and give it to Japan.
Furthermore this ultimately made it impossible to watch Kamila's performance in full of heavenly and mysterious beauty, which all figure fans around the world wanted to see.
The IOC should take the greatest responsibility for this!
By the way, being on drugs or medication on thin sharp blades of steel with a thick layer of solid ice underneath you is definitely asking for permanent damage.
Especially, while competing.
Well, these were specifically PEDs. You could argue the same with something like taking PEDs in baseball with a hard ball rushing at you at 70+ mph. The bottom line is, this is to cheat, not for a headache, or daily medication.
every time you open your mouth, garbage comes out. nothing you say makes a shred of sense... by the way.
@@aidanlutz8106 Even still tho, anyone, her grandpa, a friend, an acquaintance could have slipped it into her drink or food with her not knowing.
Especially, with what is going on with Russia right now.
@@durtyragoux Oh really .
I used to ice skate every weekend & loved spinning along with skating with a friend of mine years ago.
Also, had a daughter fall on ice to where her ankle was completely sideways.
I have also work in an ER being to first one to sign patients in & call for the triage nurse.
Damage can happen from a fall & yes, definitely those blades can cut through skin.
Ever watch hockey in person?
Very fun to do & can be bloody.
Your just trying to start crap because of some kind of insecurity.
Your not bothering me with your comment, lol.
@@lindalauer1434 PED's don't make someone more prone to ice skating accidents, suggesting otherwise is absurd. Also, the idea that someone faked her test results is equally mindless, especially when she and her handlers are making ridiculous excuses for the drugs presence. I think your experience as an ER receptionist, or whatever, doesn't exactly make you an expert on the subject, to say the least. I simply find your points inane and unnecessary, and a feeble attempt at being relevant. That's all I was trying to say, no offense.
Her corrupt, drug pushing coaches have forever tainted, marred this talented, young skaters reputation.
It's irreparable harm to allow her to skate for her as well. Allowing her to skate condones a system of child abuse and allows the system to continue abusing her.
Recall Sergei Grinkov, who won 2 Olympics and died due to a heart attack when wearing skates at the age of 28. About a quarter of myocardial infarctions happen without specific premonitory symptoms. While therapeutic use of prohibited substances is possible - why is disease prevention forbidden?.. I don't say that the prohibition was intentionally violated - I say that the prohibition to prevent severe diseases is unethical. Each organism is unique and may need personalized aproach to disease prevention and treatment.
The difference here is that Sergei's father died at 50 of the same thing that killed him. And Ekaterina Gordeeva (his wife) has said Sergei was clean.
One other point about Sergei Grinkov, he was apparently recovering from a back injury at the time, so the speculation is he believed the back pain he was feeling was from the injury. In younger people heart problems present themselves as back or jaw pain. Had he suspected it wasn't from injury he might have gone to a doctor, where the blockage could have been spotted, and he would've had bypass surgery.
They don’t know how to play fair
What's worse is that I don't believe they even care to.
Let’s tell it for what it is: shes not testing “positive” SHE’S TESTING DIRTY!!!!!!
If it were anyone but a Russian (and not saying it's her personal fault), she would be suspended, she would cry, some would feel sorry for her, and she would come back in four years at age 19 and in eight years at age 23. Being a female Russian skater, she will be spit out of the system there before the next Olympics in Italy and there will be another 15- or 16-year old phenom, with or without PEDs. That is an equally sickening scandal: how the Russian Skating Federation treats its female athletes.
If she's too young to be punished, then she's too young to compete.