Great interview! One thing that I think is often neglected is that "Christian nationalism" only makes sense in cultures where "nationalism" makes sense. In a lot of new nation-states, with arbitrary borders linking otherwise unrelated tribes, a lot of this simply would not make sense without serious repackaging.
In certain parts of the evangelical world, patriotism and faith have merged into something not traditional Christianity. Having come out of that world, it is pretty scary, and yes, there is a Christian Nationalist mindset out there. Like it or not. One can be a Christian and one can be a patriotic person, but they are two separate and discreet things. In Christian Nationalism, they have blended and become a singular thing.
Check in with Orthodox. Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Bulgarian Orthodox, Ukrainian Orthodox. Etc. All state churches and church states. How’s that working out? Yet they have essentially one Christian denomination. Too many expressions of Christendom for that to work out on this side of the pond. But it is an interesting question.
This was not an issue for LCMS until Vietnam. Look at LW during that time (1940-1960), very pro American, it is called a Christian’s Civic duty to support the Nation.
Honestly, I do not believe that the term "Christian nationalism" is a legitimate descriptor. There are Christians, there are nationalists, and there is some intersection between the two. But there is no such thing as a "Christian nationalist," because nationalism is not a part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This world is not our permanent home; we are in it but not 'of it.' This is not to say that we cannot or should not try to make this world a better place, but our political stances and our patriotism do not define us in the same way that our relationship to God through Christ defines us.
“Go make disciples of all nations” either we (Christian’s) make the laws in accordance with Gods morals or we let the enemy make laws based on a mockery of Gods morals. You cannot separate your Christian identity when you go to make laws or policies
@@NyghtingManit’s clear. I don’t understand how some Christians don’t want a Christian country, fall for the psy op of the media crying Christian nationalism and at the same time complain about liberals and degeneracy. It’s like they’re trying to seem as a good person in front of liberals
Stellar guest.
Great interview! One thing that I think is often neglected is that "Christian nationalism" only makes sense in cultures where "nationalism" makes sense. In a lot of new nation-states, with arbitrary borders linking otherwise unrelated tribes, a lot of this simply would not make sense without serious repackaging.
Very good.
54:00
Did he just re-invent the Pope?
Also at 27:00
This is plaguing the confessional reformed churches by countles debate
Looking forward to watching this, I saw a great interview with Dr. Shenvi a while back on a different topic
In certain parts of the evangelical world, patriotism and faith have merged into something not traditional Christianity. Having come out of that world, it is pretty scary, and yes, there is a Christian Nationalist mindset out there. Like it or not. One can be a Christian and one can be a patriotic person, but they are two separate and discreet things. In Christian Nationalism, they have blended and become a singular thing.
Check in with Orthodox. Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Bulgarian Orthodox, Ukrainian Orthodox. Etc. All state churches and church states. How’s that working out? Yet they have essentially one Christian denomination. Too many expressions of Christendom for that to work out on this side of the pond. But it is an interesting question.
This was not an issue for LCMS until Vietnam. Look at LW during that time (1940-1960), very pro American, it is called a Christian’s Civic duty to support the Nation.
Honestly, I do not believe that the term "Christian nationalism" is a legitimate descriptor. There are Christians, there are nationalists, and there is some intersection between the two. But there is no such thing as a "Christian nationalist," because nationalism is not a part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This world is not our permanent home; we are in it but not 'of it.' This is not to say that we cannot or should not try to make this world a better place, but our political stances and our patriotism do not define us in the same way that our relationship to God through Christ defines us.
“Go make disciples of all nations” either we (Christian’s) make the laws in accordance with Gods morals or we let the enemy make laws based on a mockery of Gods morals. You cannot separate your Christian identity when you go to make laws or policies
@@NyghtingManit’s clear. I don’t understand how some Christians don’t want a Christian country, fall for the psy op of the media crying Christian nationalism and at the same time complain about liberals and degeneracy. It’s like they’re trying to seem as a good person in front of liberals