This is the 3rd installment of my keto series. In case you missed the first two, see Is Keto an Effective Cancer-Fighting Diet? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-Keto-an-Effective-Cancer-Fighting-Diet/) and Keto Diet Theory Put to the Test (nutritionfacts.org/video/keto-diet-theory-put-to-the-test/)
And we would expect to see the same results with whole plant food fats..?! Nuts, olives, avocados etc, do they actually work the same way inside our body?
Zandér Stewart yes. Eat Whole Foods. Pay attention to your essential nutrients. Nutrient deficiency makes your body inefficient leading to weight gain and lack of energy. Iodine and magnesium are often overlooked.
My sister and her husband were vegan for a long time but she hated to mess about in the kitchen, not necessary I know and a really abrupt transition to legumes caused some gastro chaos, so they went keto … and a really fit present energetic guy.husband developed gout -- which I associate with Hogarth's the Rakes' Progress or the impossible cookbooks in the 19th century by Mrs Beaton who I'm pretty sure died in her late 20s possibly not from a surfeit of the food she became famous for , or Charles Dicken's wife in same category. These were privileged women at the height of unregulated Industrial Revolution; agriculture suffered; plant diseases from the 1870s on were endemic, most famously the Irish potato famine … but coming back to anecdote, my much loved sis plus husband are vegan again (whole food plant based) with some encouragement from a neighbour with some property where she can forage for wild celery etc., so everyone is now feeling way better. Whatever gets people in this direction is fine by me; I selfishly want my brilliant sister who remains as always my best friend in my life as long as possible. … long ramble not a good place to talk about the work of Valter Longo. Tx for patience anyone reading!
It was Andrew "SpudFit" Taylor who was my white crow, after being a True Believer in Paleo/Keto for decades. When I stumbled on the spudfit videos, eating nothing but potatoes for a year, I predicted that he'd gain weight, have elevated triglycerides, muscle loss, elevated FBG, and so on. I followed his channel, as he was periodically evaluated by a doctor. When none of the things I predicted happened, and his health instead improved by every objective marker, I had to concede that my premise, the insulin-carbohydrate theory, was simply wrong. I tried a short (3 week) all-potato experiment on myself, and even in that short time my lab results improved dramatically and I dropped a significant amount of weight. After that, I went to whole plant foods 99.9% of the time.
So you guys ate nothing but potatoes and saw weight loss? Hmm I can’t imagine why lol. Seriously though if your health markers improved by only eating potatoes I can’t imagine how unhealthy your previous diet must have been. I assume it was a vegan one lmao.
@@LaurenBurger It's embarrassing to read these comments from people who either did not read the comment to which they're responding, or did not comprehend the comment to which they're responding, because they are, to use a non-vegan idiom, hell bent for leather to defend their Precious.
@@kevinlochley6109 potatoes are actually extremely healthy and about 4 grams of protein per potato as well. They got a bad reputation because of all the things we like to add on potatoes that are not healthy. But if all someone eats is potatoes, nothing added, nothing taken away, it is actually pretty nutritionally sound. The people who chose to do this for months on end were using this monodiet to break their junk food addictions. As mono diets go, potatoes are probably the best one you could do
The fact that Dr Atkins was obese with heart issues including hypertension and congestive heart failure before he died should be enough for people on keto to start questioning their long term health. I tried keto, I felt awful and craved the veg and fruits I wasn't allowed to eat, then wondered why my weight loss stalled after a few months of starving my body of basic nutrients but filling up on meat, dairy and fat. Bleh! What was I thinking?
What's important is that you recognized it wasn't working and went a different direction. People are being trained to fear carbs, and they can't mentally overcome the programming
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When your keto weight loss stalls, that's when you incorporate fasting to turbo charge your results.
I did Keto and I ate plenty of fruit and veg lol but honestly still felt like I never had energy. I also went Vegan for a little over 2 years tho and started to look like I was dying so I would argue Keto is better than Veganism( Unless you take plenty of supplements of course) but really any diet that forces you to cut out the junk is going to make you feel and look good. Just realize that Dr Gregor is simply a funny guy and that his definition of “Scientific Evidence” is actually just cherry picked studies that fit his narrative...
@@RedPillVegan Yes. I see that "programing" all the time. I once had a conversation with a woman trying to convince her to eat carrots. She was so convinced that carbs are bad for you that she did not want to touch a vegetable. It took me and someone else at my gym to explain to her that there are 2 types of carbs and she needed to avoid the refined ones.
I noticed same thing... with people on Instagram. Their food posts are disgusting shades of beige and brown, and while there was some weight loss, they are still over weight. They seem content though. 🤷♂️
I've known a few people try keto over the last couple of years, none of which had diabetes. They all eventually quit, put weight back on and felt like they'd failed. A couple tried again but eventually gave up again. I said nothing because they were all so adamant keto would be the key to successful weight loss and who was I to say different? I was already happy with my diet and had never tried or felt the need to try keto. Now I think I will nudge people to review the science because the more evidence-based facts on keto I hear the more I worry its worse than just another yo-yo dieting fad.
Wyrd Knight humans evolved in a constant state of feast or famine. No plants to eat during the winter months, just what they can hunt and kill, if the animal doesn’t kill them first. Agriculture is relatively new in the overall history of human evolution. Humans thrive while in nutritional ketosis.
@@mtnbikehead There are winter vegetables, seeds, nuts, and roots to eat in winter. Also preserved, dried and fermented foods. If they lived near water there would be water vegetables also.
I have lost 40 lbs over 7 months on a diet that eliminated sugar, processed foods, seed oils and high carbs (grains of all sorts). Generally, my meals consist of 3 types of veggies (that grow above ground) and some form of protein (either meat or fish). After dinner snack is usually 85% dark chocolate and a variety of different nuts. My triglycerides have gone from 146 to 59; LDL particle number is 900; TG / HDL Ratio is .66 and C-Reactive Protein is .44. I think that it is quite clear that the real enemy of human health is processed foods/oils, sugar, too little exercise and too little sleep. A well-formulated vegan/vegetarian diet and a well-formulated low-carb diet are comparable in result.
The guy is a martial artist and a PED user, what does he know about nutrition? Furthermore he hates vegans so he would simply poison the well immediately and act like a fool. Dr Greger is above that petty crap.
It would be really great for the people, but sadly JRE has to frail of an ego to let that happen. You think there might be a link with his short height and his need to do "manly things"? He would be slaughtered if he invited Greger ofc. he can't handle that.
Vegano Smitty Yeah I wonder if Greger would know what he was in for and prepare and be able to fight back effectively. He’s charismatic, outgoing, and surely quick on his feet but Rogan is as nasty and brutally ignorant and self-assured as they come on this topic. Greger would do well but I really wanna see Garth Davis vs. Rogan, now that would be a friggin slaughter.
He forgot to mention an important aspect in Keto. Once in ketosis, your body burn fat while sleeping. Also, he forgot to mention that carbs (rice/bread/pasta etc) raises insulin in your blood stream, sending a messagz to your metabolism to store fat. In fact, Carbs turn in to sugar in your body which also makes you fat. Low card diet in our era, is not a cash cow, there are thousands of honest nutritionists. Almost all of them tell you that in first few days you will lose water, and once adapted, in ketosis, then you will be losing fat. Also, Keto alone doesn't work for most of people, including intermittent fasting is the key, and the more you stay on this diet the more you need tondecrease your fat intake to keep the results coming.
@@mariamhussain5554 you can do Keto diet: stop eating all kind of sugar and sauces and sweet fruit, and all flours/bread/rice/grains/pasta. Focus on protein and veggies (green veggies) and healthy fat such as olive oil and coconut oil and omega3 in fish. You should watch your protein intake, the protein portions are very important. Finally, you should eat twice a day not three times, so either you remove breakfast or dinner and no snack in between. Eating snacks during the day will spike your insulin level, meaning you will store food as fat and that's not optimal for weight loss. All these changes are very hard the first week, but it's worthy down the road.
Not all science is good science, this is wack science my friend. I don't know what keto diet this man is talking about. I followed dr. Berg keto and intermittent fasting and I was able to lose a hundred pounds. I don't just listen blindly I test things hopefully you do the same my friend but I doubt it. 💯💪
@@jeepz669 It's obvious you weren't even listening to the video. He never said you can't lose weight with keto or fasting. The studies were about low carb vs low fat and what is better for FAT loss.
I have tried virtually every diet / way of eating - I was always left craving food and feeling hungry all the time. The keto diet (vegan) is the first time in my adult life that I literally don't even think about food until I get real hunger pains. For normal people, I see your point - but for food addicted, obese people the low carb / high fat way of eating will keep them satisfied.
You mention weight loss due to water loss but according to the highlighted article, that’s within the first week/ten days. How do you explain sustained weight loss on keto after over a year? I didn’t have nearly as much the recommended fat intake as I just couldn’t do it to myself in fact, I didn’t check my macro levels at all, just sticking to olive oil, grass-fed butter, cheese, avocado, walnuts, macadamia nuts, savoury fruits & vegetables & vegetarian protein sources keeping my daily carb levels to around 45g/day. Water loss in most diets is common in the first week - ten days. How is sustained weight loss on keto after three-six months explained?
Sorry to hear so much ignorance in the name of science. Real Keto is not all that fat from butter and so on. It’s about % of calories coming from “good” fat as avocados, mtc oil, olive oil, olives, nuts, salmons and so on. My experience: I never made it to loose fat and not muscle with a normal low fat diet, Mediterranean or zones or whatever. And it was suffering! With keto I almost never suffered, lost 10kg in 45days and didn’t loose not even a gr of lean muscle. Now I’m on a cyclic keto, with some more carbs from veggies and fruit. And I’m doing super fine. Also my triglycerides and acid uric went back to normal after the first week of keto. So, sorry, but this “study” here is not a serious one. I’m not saying other diets don’t work, they just didn’t for me. Keto did. It would be nice to be more serious. That’s it.
I tried keto and it was just like that. Lost 20 lbs total in about a month, but then I leveled while basically eating the same things. I switched to a low fat, whole food diet and starting losing weight again until I had lost about 60 lbs total. Keto works for some people because the protein helps them feel fuller, but you can eat protein on a low fat diet and the fiber also helps keep us feeling fuller.
I tried the keto thing before I was better educated on how to verify legitimate research. Let me tell you, even when I was increasing my fiber intake and staying keto, I was constantly wiping my butthole. All that extra fat was doing something awful inside my guts. I would go on runs and my butt itched. It was horrifying.
Totally disagree as an ex vegan now ketovore. Feel amazing doing it the old way as our ancestors ate. Everyone is different, find what works for you. Some thrive on a vegan or plant based diet others do better low carb higher fat with animal protien. We all need to find our own mojo and change things up every now and then so body does not stagnate into same food routine. I.F. has been proven to help with autophagy as Dr J Fung has mentioned in his videos.
well that's great for you but a bloody nightmare for the planet then. What the hell are you going to do if we all stop consuming so much animal products to save the environment????? Think about it.
another problem is any food labeled "low fat" is actually HIGH SUGAR. The solution to that is to purchase non-prepackaged foods, but try telling that to friends & family who found their fix.
Well I went on a vegan diet for 12 months and lost 18 lbs 218/200. I quit the diet and went back on the SAD diet for a year and a half & I got up to 224. Then I went on a carnivore diet 70/80% of my calories from animal fats and the rest protein with no carbs & in 4 months I lost 59 lbs 224/165! I have all my muscle tone and a slight 6 pack and I feel amazing! I went from a 38” waist to a 31” waist. I did not exercise on either diet and I saw results on both even though I personally saw amazing results on the carnivore diet. I think it’s like the doctors always tell you, “everyone is different”! 👍 Just try things out and do what works best for you! What could it hurt to try both? At least in both diets your off the SAD way of eating which is the real culprit!😁
Heart disease, and a host of other potentially hidden things "can hurt." Not all calories are the same, and some have consequences to long-term health that are not obvious from day 1.
All I know is going on a keto diet makes it easier for me to eat less and not feel hungry. No other diet has ever helped me do that. 1500 calories a day, fasting long periods, not feeling terrible after eating tons of carbs. the study needs to measure the human component not just the theory of increased fat loss based on calories on vs calories out.
If you want to do something meaningful, turn your comment section rage toward Kraft, General Mills, McDonald's, PepsiCo, etc. Convenience and fast foods are the beginning and end of this whole diet mess. Without disease-causing "foods" engineered to addict you and relieve you of your money, all these diet questions are academic.
Excellent comment, just like the boy who is in the news yesterday who is vegan and only ate potato chips white bread and french fries and he completely lost his eyesight at 18 years old. Vegan? Anyone ?
@@KeyofDavid5778 Well, that's eating disorder territory. It's not really a commentary on veganism any more than eating nothing but pork rinds and lard until you go blind reveals anything about paleo. Tree bark is vegan but nobody suggests you eat it solely, if at all. The actual problem is what's making us sick. It's not so much the measures we take to try to get better...even if those measures also cause problems. The underlying problem is still there. The cause of this entire mess is processed convenience foods. They cause disease, disability, and death. Our collective outrage should be focused there like a laser.
This is a great comment but so far down the list. Below ones with zero likes. Seems like people don't want to hear the truth. Maybe they're addicted to their own outrage more than they care to fix the problem or even hear solutions.
Perhaps people have success on low-carb because they feel satisfied eating less calories? I think people like low-carb diets because they are easy to follow, it’s easier to eat less because you feel satisfied sooner. Any studies on the feeling of fullness on low-carb diets vs non low-carb diets?
From my friends, and my own personal experience, I think it works because you have people that begin with no dietary restrictions: eating literally everything! And then switching to a ‘keto’ diet where you stop eating cakes, pies, eating lettuce instead of buns on burgers etc. Basically you get people who are shooting themselves in both feet to just shooting one foot. I’m on a wfpb diet now but I do remember losing a bunch of weight on my paleo/keto days and there’s something to be said for seeing the number on the scale drop and being motivated to keep exercising etc.
Low carb diets outperform low fat diets fairly consistently in randomised controlled trials. They are especially more effective in ad libitum (eat as much as you want) rcts. So, yes.
@@MikeyGrande yes. I watched it. Still bewildered why Greger chose one 6 day study to make his point when there are numerous randomised controlled trials over many weeks and many months. [whispers] actually I do know. Because they dont support his general premise. 🤫
This. Food cravings went to nothing when I'm on keto. To the point I would often struggle to meet my daily calorie goals and had to almost force myself to eat.
Lol this guy cherry picks studies and uses them as his evidence. He makes a few good points here and there and he’s pretty funny but you shouldn’t trust anyone who isn’t open to other diets. Especially if the diet happens to be working for thousands of people. Personally I’ve tried nearly every diet except the Whole Foods diet and a couple others and I can tell you that the Vegan diet made me personally feel like absolute shit. Both the carnivore and keto diet made me feel super tired at first then it got better after a while. Honestly though I think a bit of carbs is good for me and most healthy people. Just gotta realize everyone is different and this guy is not someone I would trust.
@@kevinlochley6109 if you're gonna claim that he cherry picks, then show us better science than metabolic ward studies - ohh wait there aint none(except for meta's of metabolic ward) - you think there might be a reason why they call it the "gold standard of science"? - great job showing ur ignorance
Except that it actually works for a great % of people. Fat is satiating, therefore you actually end up consuming less calories, and losing FAT (surprise,surprise) on your body.
I find it faszinating how everyone is happy that "the plant diet wins", while the term "ketogenic diet" doesn't mean that it can't be a WFPB diet... it just means almost no carbs. (And yes, that's possible with just plants.)
Just discovered this channel. As a physician and evidence-based medicine advocate, I am thrilled to see finally somebody telling a compelling story based on available published evidence. Congrats. That said, have a couple of comments or questions. 1. This is too fast/condensed for me. Can you please put the list of quoted references right here for everybody to review. And/or, have you considered creating a lengthier version for those who would like to understand the paper more in general to be able to follow your line of argument? 2. What is the physiological explanation? Long term water loss doesn't make sense to me, but lean body mass / muscle would. Is it possible that a minimal amount of glucose is needed to prevent gluconeogenesis from protein breakdown? Or, if glucose would largely be replaced by proteins, would we then be able to prevent muscle protein breakdown as there is sufficient in circulation for the gluconeogenesis in the liver?
You think this is Science omfg you were let down by your education system. There are literally hundreds of randomized trails that prove that keto/ low carb is healthier in terms of most medical markers, but sustainable. Lots of people want to believe that plant based diets are better for you, but in terms of research, very few randomized trials exist, and those that do, are poorly done showing bias from the onset. Low fat = low life expectancy.
@@mtnbikehead I would really like to see these randomized trials that "prove that keto/ low carb is healthier in terms of most medical markers, but sustainable" Also there's a shit ton of studies that back up plant based diets, basically every single study. Go to this channel and search for something like "Cancer" or "Diabetes" or "Eggs", etc, you'll find some damn good randomized double blind placebo controlled studies here that backs up plant based diets.
The author of the study gregor used blasted him on twitter for misrepresenting his findings... Gregor loves to lie to you lot and you lot love being in your echo chamber. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
*It's important to remember that long-term sustainability is key, and incorporating other healthy lifestyle habits, such as regular exercise and balanced nutrition, is essential for overall health and well-being.*
Eelke Aptroot Dr Gregors definition of scientific evidence is a cherry picked study lmao. Don’t get me wrong I think Keto is highly overrated and only beneficial for people with Insulin Resistance and other similar issues but at the same time I’ve never seen a more ridiculous diet than the vegan one. You want to cut out animal foods and call it an optimal diet? Honestly is this a joke? I mean do you know anything about how certain nutrients are converted and stored in the body? I won’t get into it but seriously do some research on retinol and other things you can’t get from a vegan diet. It’s extremely scary that so many people could fall for this.
Well everybody is entitled to their opinion, I do like the the fact that the cherries he does pick are published in renowned journals. From what I understand about insuline resistance is that it's caused by a high fat diet, so not eating carbs is kinda fighting the symptoms not the cause. When it comes to my experience eating plant-based, I've been vegan for over 4,5 years and I was a vegetarian for over a decade before that. So whatever the research about retinol says, I probably convert enough beta-caroteen into retinol myself or I would have needed glasses or gone blind by now.
It most certainly is cherry picked. Heres a list of randomised controlled trials comparing low fat to low carb... phcuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/PHC-LC-v-LF-RCTs-Inforgraphic-26.02.2018.png
Proven by science??? The author of the paper blasted Gregor for misrepresenting his study. The author even states that the opposite of grgors statements are true. So now ask yourself. What else has gregor lied to you about?? twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
@@eelkeaptroot1393 when your energy stores become full, you become insulin resistant. When they empty insulin sensitivity goes up again. There are so many testimonials out there but many people that have become fat adapted choose to stay that way and permanently cut out carbs, even if they could handle them again because being in ketosis feels so good
I never regret for doing Keto diet. I eat ones a day for healthy food most what I enjoy. I am a witness for Keto that I became a very healthy and energetic when I quit all sugar and sugary good. It’s not about losing fat it’s about getting rid of all the pain and inflammation and the toxics that caused the unhealthy food we eat. Keto is clean and healthy if we understand not to eat everything that you hear about doctors or social media. Listen to your body and you will know what you body needs. Thank you
Except keto is not clean because animal products contain multiple known carcinogens like heterocyclic amines, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, and neu5gc. Also eating higher on the food chain increases pollutant bioaccumulation so you are eating more pollutants.
No, this is bullshit many people want it to be true to go back and eat candy but it is simply not true. Greger's advice is what has made America fat and unhealthy while other countries eating healthy fats are lean and have far less health issues.
Also gregor is misrepresenting the study to further his own agenda. Here is what the author of the paper has to say about this video. Now ask yourself what else has gregor lied to you about?? twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
I don't see any mention of actually maintaining KETOSIS, only that of a "reduced fat" vs "reduce carbohydrate" diet which is not necessarily a KETO DIET.
The main thing about the keto diet is that you eat fewer calories because you're satiated quicker. Think about your personal experience. How easy is it to overeat pizza or cereal or cookies? It's much more difficult to eat the same number of calories of meat, eggs, avocado, etc. Dr. Greger doesn't even go into this fact AT ALL. Hopefully he'll address it in a future video. It definitely feels like he's cherry picking the studies for this video. Personally, I'm still on the fence which way to go - ketosis vs WFPB w/ fish, but leaning towards WFPB. It seems like every person on RUclips is biased and cherry picks their info....so frustrating. Are there any unbiased and open nutritionists out there?
Ive lost 100 pounds following dr. Eric Berg keto and intermittent fasting protocol. I eat plenty of veggies, I don't hate vegetarians but what I do hate are biased science studies and hidden agendas! The People's Health comes first! If something works for you good do it but test all things and test all theories to find out for yourself if they work! 💯💪
I agree with all your comments. He definitely needs to do a better job of analyzing the keto research out there and not be afraid to say something besides WFPB can work in dropping pounds and helping people be healthier. He'll never say anything is better than WFPB but he should be open to saying that something else can be beneficial and can be better than SAD.
Ryne Collies the most immediate weight loss is excess water. It takes a few days to a week to get into nutritional ketosis; faster if you are an athlete or fasting. The non athlete couch potato takes a fair bit longer. I am low carb, and do days of full keto style diet when I have a few days I can’t workout.Many of the comments here have zero merit. I find that this vid is deliberately misleading. We evolved over millions of years eating animal fat and protein. No agriculture, no grocery stores. People in the northern latitudes would go months during the winter, no vegetables, no edible plants in the winter, yet survived and thrived. Obesity, diabetes, hypertension, coronary artery disease and many other diseases all at record highs now. High glycemic carbs and vegetable oils and such don’t oxidize as well as the good fats. I am 53 and lost a tonne of fat, eating more steak, eggs, butter, unsweetened oatmeal with berries and nuts. My veggies are lower glycemic.Keto diet allows for lots of veggies, berries and nuts. Choose what works for you. But don’t do yourself a disservice by only going to one source or doing the confirmation bias research. Look up insulin resistance and how to fix it. Use lots of sources. I am holding steady at my goal weight. My blood work is perfect now. My fitness is at a 30 year high for weights and endurance.
Rockhead Gary Being WFPB I would agree with most of what you said. We are firstly survivors and consequently consumers. If it wasn’t for animal consumption and ketosis we’d be dead as a species. But the way I look at it if the body was presented with choice of carbs or fat for energy, it would select carbs. It’s our preferred energy source, and quite frankly I’ll go with nature designs, meat consumption not withstanding. A person has to do what works for them. Best wishes.
@@mtnbikehead Your personal opinion is valid, because it is subjective, but this is not an anthropologically sound statement and paraphrases quackery like, "Man: The Hunter": _We evolved over millions of years eating animal fat and protein._ All research says that the hominids from which we descend were eating a mostly plant-based diet until migration to northerly climes, at which point plant foods were still favored unless privation periods were experienced.
It's too bad all these studies are from 1984 to 1995 there was only one study from 2015 in the whole video. Outdated research. I was vegan / vegetarian for over 35 years and got in the car wreck and was on many drugs went Keto and got off all my drugs and recovered 100% And now only eat one meal a day for the last two to three years.
I tried keto and found it very unsustainable. But I also did find my sugar cravings go down drastically. Do I could see how it can help some people keep more control of what they are eating.
Ashley Miller Is you’re diet plant based? I’d recommend checking out the Nutmeg Notebook RUclips channel. One thing that has helped me is the concept of a chopped salad. I get such a wide and large amount of nutrients that my sugar cravings have gone way down. Best of luck
Keto has kept my cravings under control I eat less I go longer without eating I've pretty much cut out all sugar and have increased my veggie intake. I've managed to stick to my Keto Plan by dr. Berg and I lost a hundred pounds and I've never felt better or looked better 💪💯
@@MsSpicynipples wow what an ignorant statement! if you're some kind of crazy bodybuilder what you're saying might work if you're an average person your advice is terrible bro. Sugar is the enemy. If you have the genetics to take large amounts of sugar good for you! we don't all have the genetics to be able to take massive amounts of sugar like you. Very ignorant statement my sugar loving friend.
I am praying this within my connections for years. everyone is focused on the (wrong) numbers. the scale doesn't mean anything. unless it's a bodyfat scale which are totally off anyway. better get a big mirror instead.
i'm a born skeptic but if you say i'm a cult puppet, then maybe i am. i go by percentage. 85-90 percent of the calories i ingest are unprocessed plant based. for example: i eat rice 3 times daily and 4 out of 5 times i have pulses. 50 grams of mixed ground pork and beef go into 500 grams of legumes, 300-400 grams of carrot, celery & onion, plus maybe 100 grams of garlic, another 100 or more grams of chopped bell peppers. maybe twice a week i'll make a blue cheese or parmesan sauce for my steamed veg and mushrooms. yes, it's a cult puppet diet for sure.
pusang halaw again wth are you talking about?? You just said you eat meat. So it sounds like you eat meat every day so that’s not occasional. You people need to stop demonizing meat and start treating it as the nutritional essential that it is. I used to love this channel until I realized he’s been cherry picking studies for years and leading people to a cult like mentality that you can’t even understand your exhibiting.
Here is what the author of the study has to say about this very video.... Gregor is misrepresenting the findings and the author even went so far as to say the opposite of what gregor says in this video is actually true... I guess vegans love being lied to int heir echo chamber.. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
Let me say I love Dr. Greger's work on plant based eating and he has had much to do with my going fully vegan about 6 years ago. However, I have lost more weight, lowered blood sugar and have more energy as a keto vegan. My weight loss alone seems to contradict the 17 man study. This video assumes that by eating more fats, one would increase total calories and negate the fats burned which hasn't been the case for me. There is a loss of craving to eat carbs and I actually eat far less calories. So the number of reduced calories by eating far less carbs has been much greater than the extra good fat calories. I used to be low fat vegan but plateaued in insulin resistance improvement. I went to vegan keto because the fat burning vs glucose burning made allot of sense to me. The only difference between keto vegan and what Dr Greger and the Forks Over Knives group of Doctors espouse is keto vegan increases the good fats such as coconut oil, avocados, nuts and seeds instead of starchy veges such as potatoes, rice, corn, wheat etc. I am still a vegan and I get the benefits of no animal products. So we're no that far apart. I also stay away from most fruits other than limes and do several low glycemic berries such as blueberries, blackberries and strawberries. The other thing that drew me to keto vegan is that of the three macros, carbs is the only macro that humans do not need at all. It doesn't make sense to me to up the starchy plant carbs in the face of that fact and the blood sugar spikes I get from them. Additionally the fat caused cell insulin resistance concept does not explain why so many diabetics have dramatic A1C drops on keto (vegan or not).
The reason your experience is different to waht is depicted in this video is because gregor misrepresented the study. Heres what the author of the study had to say about this video. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
I just don't understand what these videos are hoping to achieve. You may lose more weight on a low fat diet but carbs make me hungry, they make me snack. I'm looking for food an hour after a bowl of rice. It's not a like for like comparison because I'd be really hungry on the one option. As for water weight, it's not a gimmick if you feel better without it, and you consider your natural state to be without it. Same goes for not shitting and farting all day. If I'm choosing to not be bloated, hungry, full of water then fat burning numbers are meaningless.
It was back in the 1950s and 60s when everybody ate food from a farm with dairy cream butter an animal products and farm vegetables people ....slipped into ketosis two or three times a year mainly in the winter without even knowing it because their fat content was so high. Then the low-fat gimmicks for dieting came out in the 70s and 80s.
Scott Gabelman Interesting point. Reminds me of my grandfathers farm in Minnesota. With the low fat craze of the past decades it should be renamed to high sugar. In some aspects, the fat reduction was not all that great. It just gave an excuse for food scientist to shove as much sugar and hfcs into products.
@@Larry30102 If you think about it all the bad things you know about fat come from people selling you an "alternative" either a super toxic fat made from seed oils falsely called vegetable oils, or sugar. Former president Eisenhower's hear-attack was most likely due to fake butter aka margarine consumption and sugar, but people selling the stuff were already con artists and well aware how damaging their product was, so they spare no expense using the president's craze and acted first and with malicious intent to blame real food for what their crap was doing to people... Long story short they won, and this is USA today a nation where we have diabetic children on drugs, people who grow up to be obese! and nobody can be convinced to save their lives... The American diet its so bad that in fact you would be way better off on this charlatan's diet, but certainly not in optimum health.
I know some people who have lost a ton of weight but they cut out tons of processed food and restricted calories. I try to tell them to cut calories with whole plant based foods but they are so convinced it was the Keto and continue on their path of destruction.
YOU are gonna love this!!! twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390 Gregor the conman being called out by the author of the paper he is using in this video lol
He a liar and a con who is taking advantage of your ignorance. The author of the paper used in this video has something to say about this video. Maybe take a look. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
if you use low carb/keto or low fat it works in both ways but fat is used for more than energy in the body so i rather eat fat than empty calories in form of carbs
Another great video of dropping science on the keto crowd. Why do I feel like I am watching a captivating TV series just waiting for your next episode to drop? I fist pump every time you upload.
@@CarbageMan , virtually every diet consisting of anything except pounds of the most offensive processed foods will reverse issues as horrendous as 100+ lb obesity. Your case shows that even keto makes the cut. Glad to hear you're healthier, but please don't harm others by spreading your ignorance.
Low carb outperforms low fat diets in randomised controlled trials (especially ad libitum trials). Surprised this is not mentioned in this video. I wonder why... 🤔
@@CarbageMan, I refuse to believe that you can't understand "keto > carbed vegan" where carbed vegan simply means vegan with carbs (as opposed to a keto and vegan diet). Have a good rest of your life trolling. Nothing personal.
Did they measure that the people participated in the test actually were in a state of ketosis? Seems to me reducing kalories by 800, does not necessarily does that.
Its ok you can thank me later. Here is the author of the study blasting gregor for misrepresenting his study. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
I’ve been on keto for over a year, more specifically, a lacto/ovo, vegetarian, Mediterranean keto diet. I have lost 25kgs but my sleep on 20-30g carbs a day was severely impacted. Adding carbs to 45g-50g day helped my sleep but it’s still not perfect. I have plateaued for about 3 months now with just 7kgs to go so am interested in trying a lower fat model to shift post-menopausal fat storage around my abdomen which had only marginally decreased during the diet.
Great work as usual Dr Gregor. I had the opportunity to do a presentation to my class of nursing students on the vegan diet last week and I used three of your videos! Hopefully I opened some eyes :) #GoVegan #EndCapitalism
Nikki H Especially if the United States tries to crush it as usual! Lol. Imagine how successful the USSR may have been without the constant economic and military threat put on them by the US to keep them down. Imagine how successful Cuba could be without the destructive embargo we’ve had on them for 70 years now 😂 Even with embargo, Cuba provides healthcare to all of its citizens, unlike the United States, trains doctors that travel around the world and help the poor, we’re the first to eliminate HIV/AIDS transmission from mother to baby, and were the first to develop a lung cancer vaccine. I love when westerns act like communism just magically fails... nah, there’s a reason 😂 Your governments can’t handle that the people have democratized, no longer want the rich running things.
Its ok you can thank me later. Here is the author of the study blasting gregor for misrepresenting his study. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
Pickle Beaker! Vegan diet... when people can’t look at studies and realize how poorly put together they are so they just go along with what a Dr says and end of severely malnourished lol Dr Gregors definition of scientific evidence is a cherry picked study lmao. Don’t get me wrong I think Keto is highly overrated and only beneficial for people with Insulin Resistance and other similar issues but at the same time I’ve never seen a more ridiculous diet than the vegan one. You want to cut out animal foods and call it an optimal diet? Honestly is this a joke? I mean do you know anything about how certain nutrients are converted and stored in the body? I won’t get into it but seriously do some research on retinol and other things you can’t get from a vegan diet. It’s extremely scary that so many people could fall for this.
@GFY You do realise not all humans can convert beta carotene into vitamin A right? So what for them, if they are lucky enough to diagnose this, add yet another pharmaceutical to this supposedly natural human diet diet?
@@kevinlochley6109 The 'cherry picked' study doesn't even back up his claims, the author of the study has blasted Gregor on twitter for misrepresenting his study. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390 The guy likes to manipulate low IQ people like TheWodeh in order to further his agenda.
You can say this, but i see alot of RUclipsrs talking about a bad experience with Veganism(just keep that in mind). Plant based diet consumers have the same morbidity and mortality rates as regular diet consumers with regards to cancer and Alzheimer's you actually have a video on this...but this only happens if they do it wrongly, & in that video you actually highlight the importance of Vitamin B12 supplementation and ground flaxseed in a plant based diet. In the same way, Keto diet consumers will get negative results if they do Keto the wrong way. I'd be more glad if you did another video on how to do Keto the right way, rather than criticizing it in video after video yet there are countless testimonies of people who've been on it for years and are healthy. Thank you.
Carl Michaelis - You’re right, low-carb is not new, but Keto is just the latest version. Before that, it was just a dietary treatment for pediatric epilepsy. Every fad diet has weight loss success stories...every last one of them. That doesn’t make them healthy diets.
@@megavegan5791 You do know that pre roads and supermarkets, people where on ketosis all the time right? You ate all you could eat and that included grains but just out of necessity to last through the winter. So being in ketosis it's a natural human state which means this is how the body works. So if you don't get in ketosis you run in to a lot of health problems. Eating vegetables is a form of fasting, which can get you in ketosis as well.
@@hilomona But if the People *are* healthy, then the Foods are healthy for those People. Anyway, on Keto, you don't eat burgers with bread, so that makes a huge difference.
@@megavegan5791 just make sure that they come off low carb for a few days before administering the oral glucose test. Thats a hugely important element to distinguish between peripheral insulin resistance (temporary) and pathological IR. I think you migh be confused between the two
@@megavegan5791 insulin resistance doesnt 'cure itself' in three days. Its a pathological condition. But taking a bolus of glucose after an extended term on a low carb site will show the muscles not uptaking glucose. However, this is temporary. Its exactly the same mechanism as taking a bolus of glucose after *fasting* for an extended period. Fasting has been demonstrated in studies to improve insulin sensitivity . Do you agree? Exactly the same thing happens.
Fewer calories. A high fat diet is not terribly palatable. We've known this for a while now, and paleo people are finally admitting this is where the weight loss, if any, comes from.
@@Charlie-502 when calories are held constant, people lose less fat on a keto diet than a balanced one. That is the point of the research Dr. Greger points out. The weight loss people on a keto diet experience is real, but it's not from ketosis. If it was, the studies Dr. Greger pointed to would find that people in ketosis lose more fat. Instead, they found the opposite. So the weight loss people on a keto diet have comes from the fact that people eating a high fat diet eat fewer calories. That's all. It's not the magic of ketosis. It's the unpalatability of eating a ton of fat. If that works for you, go for it.
@@joyruppert4710I watched the video. He cited a study of only six days. There are many people who have lost so much weight on keto. As I said I believe plant based is the overall healthiest diet but don't tell me ketosis doesn't burn body fat bc ketosis is burning body fat
I think maybe the benefits are in the ketones though too, people with schizophrenia in clinical trials have gone in remission on the keto diet. It seems to be a lot healthier for your brain or people with insulin resistance.
Long overdue. Thanks so much. I remain primarily on the Joel Fuhrman plant based diet . More specifically, a plant based diet, utilizing high nutrient density whole foods with limited protein, and no added oils, sweeteners, or salt.
If keto doesn't work then it just wasn't for them, it's a good lifestyle choice, but you have to genuinely want to do it, also your videos a load of crap, everyone should watch Ken Berry for real information, he was skeptical but went along with it for a while and never looked back.
I always thought the best way to do a diet would be: - Low/no simple carbs, and other processed food. - High whole veggies, fat from nuts and legumes. - Moderate fruits. - A very lower amount of animal protein from fish, birds, and insects. - And a weekly/vitamin during weeks where you'd miss out on B12 Naturally.
All fats are 9 calories per gram. Unfortunately, yes it does. Fat is still a healthy part of the diet, and some vitamins can't be absorbed without fat. I think what the good doctor here is try to stress isn't no fat, but anti-fat-based diets. Keto goes overboard with the fats. If you're not struggling with heart disease, you don't have to be super restrictive with your fat intake. This series is just trying to take the wind out of the Keto movements sails.
nope To me it depends on your state of health. If you’re young lean and healthy, plant fats are great. But if Dr Esselstyns teachings are correct regarding cardiac cripples, fat in any form could be bad. You just have to evaluate your situation.
A good diet is a diet you'll stick with. Keto drops insulin which reduces hunger. As a result, people will stick with Keto. Keto is definitely not for everyone but great for diabetics.
I don't think weight loss is the number one reason to do Keto. It is a good benefit but reducing inflammation and blood pressure and mental clarity are bigger benefits
They *don't* stick with keto though! It's a *very* hard diet to stick with. Most people are never really in ketosis at all and most will quit because it's so difficult to maintain. There is research on all this.
@@LivingMidnight I found the Keto diet the only diet I could stick to. Too many cravings with other diets. The key is to empty the cupboard and replace with clean organic food. intermittent fasting becomes possible once you have become fat adapted. This has freed up my lunch time to get errands run.
Of course it is not only a weight loss diet. In my opinion if done properly it is an ultimate biohack to make yourself more stronger and resilient, both physically and mentally. Do you think US Navy seals would consider implementing keto diet if it was something that would make you sick and weak like this doctor preaches in his videos ? And in my opinion it is the ONLY diet for diabetics if they want to live..
Damn, about to start me a low fat diet (vegan ofc) ! Lol Also, I find it funny how the "why I am no longer vegan videos" are always talked about yet I constantly see youtubers who went Keto (and talked about how amazing it is and how amazing they feel) and then drop it (they just don't make a big video out of it - embarrassed probably)!! I can think of 3 off the top of my head.
Courtney HAMILTON Well it’s certainly confusing. In the vids I’ve watched of failed vegans they have gone through stages of various vegan lifestyles. Without a doubt they all tried a Raw diet. While it can done, I think overall it’s dangerous if not done correctly. Another mistake that new folks make is that they don’t eat enough volume. Studies have shown that we tend to eat the same amount of volume when changing diets. So if going Whole Food Plant Based(not simply vegan) you might need to eat more to feel well. Oh yeah, some folks experience some withdrawal symptoms...normal. Good luck
Courtney HAMILTON Just curious. The purpose for cutting the fat? And what is typical fat consumption? Would you consider yourself whole food plant based? Thx
@@Larry30102 cutting fat because I have like 15-20lbs I want to lose. I am not sure the typical but I do eat a lot of hummus, tahini and cashew cream type things. I would say I am WFPB 90% of time but I just consume too many calories I guess.
@@courtneyhamilton4495 I think we're in the same boat! I saw a good explanation recently from Dr. Klaper [I think] about why eating fat keeps you from losing weight. It was something like this: the body is not wasteful, and it's easier to store dietary fat as fat than to convert it from carbs to fat. So when we eat it, out body wants to hang onto it 'just in case' That doesn't mean we CAN'T eat fat, but when trying to lose weight, that should be the first place to cut. I think the video was 'vegan nutrition: pure and simple' We all talk about how weight loss is important, but in reality, our bodies want to keep us from starving. Here in the US most of us are overweight, but throughout history [including now] starvation is a real thing. Hard to relate to with literally tons of food within reach. Pam Popper had a couple of good videos also about what to do when weight loss stops. Hope this helps : )
These studies are funded by companies that support non ketogenic diets because all of their products would be obsolete. I have seen the results of keto on my self in one and half month I lost 6.5 kg and other health benefits without doing any exercise. I don’t have sugar craving nor hunger and full of energy and have lots of focus and all my friends are telling me that I am younger than I was before. This channel is working for the companies that infect our bodies with useless food. All those studies are done and research are funded by the same companies that infect our bodies with diseases. Don’t believe in it.
If you love this then you will also love the author of the paper blasting Gregor the conman for misrepresenting his study too, enjoy. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
By the way. Keto is not Atkins with only minor tweaks and should not be confused with it. Atkins increased protein to make up for less carbs. Keto keeps protein to about 15-20% which is a major macro difference. I do agree that animal products are unhealthy in any percentage. But a vegan can also be keto by staying away from starchy plants. This is what has worked for me and I'm not disagreeing with Dr. Greger on most of his work.
I can speak only from personal experience as someone with severe metabolic syndrome, high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Going vegan lowered cholesterol, but not enough to eliminate medicine. Blood pressure has some effect lower, but still medicated. On vegan I did lose 25 pounds but hit a plateau that just would not break. I even started adding weight. The doctor said eat less. Really? I am eating 1500 to 2000 calories a day now and literally starving all the time. I decided to take matters into my own hands. I would eat less, but I would bring back in healthy fats, some healthy meats and cheeses. The majority of my food intact is veggies. I eat ZERO wheat, wheat products, grains, sugar, sugar products, fruit. None, zip. And while in fact, I am eating a little less, I am not hungry. I have now lost 50 pounds. Cholesterol is normal and I am cutting back, hopefully completely on BP meds as it has gotten too low. I am far healthier now with the reintroduction of moderate amounts of healthy fat and some animal products than I was vegan. And remember, I am now not hungry and craving. Grieger is disingenuous suggesting one size fits all as well as being EXTREMELY disingenuous picking out just one study at a time. I am disappointed in him as a long time viewer. But what the hell, why should he be any different than any of the others.
You can get better results by eating healthy fats from plants sources like SPROUTED nuts and seeds. Don't be fooled by the "quick weight loss" diets. No humans or animals were designed to lose that much weight that quickly....unless you were starving. Like the Dr. says.......keto weight loss is mostly water and lean muscle tissue loss. There's a reason why you NEVER see any world class athlete who's on keto. Keto...quick bandage that covers up the symptoms... but causes bigger health issues in the long run. I feel sad for all the fat people falling for the keto industry bullsh*t.
OK, I'm glad you found something that worked for you. However, keep in mind that this is anecdotal. The balance of scientific evidence is clear that meats and cheeses are not as healthy as whole-food plant-based nutritional alternatives for the great majority of people. This is especially the case if they follow sensible dietary guidelines. There are 10 sources used in this video and many of them are analyses of multiple studies. When you claim that Dr Greger is picking one study at a time I think you're missing the wood for the trees. He's highlighting some interesting findings but this does not stray from the overall findings of these multiple studies. Sounds to me like you're frustrated that this video does not chime with your confirmation biases and have jumped to conclusions to defend them.
Good morning! For most of 2018 I was doing keto according to Dr. Wahls, then in 2019, I started moving towards plant-based high carb, low fat in a Dr. Swank/Dr. Esselstyn-like way. I noticed that I could lose body fat both ways, low carb, or low fat, especially combining IF with low carb and eating fewer daily meals due to the increase in satiety on high fat meals. I prefer high carb low fat, but felt an increase in the health symptoms I was addressing (which isn’t obesity, as I have never been obese anyways, but mostly within 170 to 190 lbs) so returned to keto and the benefits of ketones. Still wondering if you think there is any application for keto treating cancer, which you seem to completely disregard in the first video, citing that one example of ketones actually fuelling one type of cancer, which is surprising given what I have been hearing Dr. Seyfried, and others say. That should be investigated thoroughly for sure!
and he mentions that further investigation is being done but isn't done yet. Maybe you should rewatch the video if you missed that. Also the BRAF V600E Genetic mutation allows cancer cells to use ketones to grow faster. The mutation is present in 100% of hairy cell leukemias, 50% of melanomas, 10% of colon cancers, and 5% of multiple myelomas You should look that up on pubmed for yourself.
This video will be good in 1972 promoting a low fat diet versus a low carbohydrate diet losing more weight on a low fat diet! What are the dates of the studies that you're Trying to educate us with. Cherry picking articles from 1944 to 1995. There's much better research on the keto diet for weight loss then you're showing us.
My own study: N=1 Well formulated Keto Diet for 12 month: -105 pounds in 12 months. -Significantly high resting blood pressure went down to 125/80, -fasting glucose down from weekly average of 140 to 98, -triglycerides, LDL and HDL within normal parameters (improvement over baseline values). -Improvement of Liver values Psychologically: Never Hungry, fell energetic and motivated enough to hit the gym after 10 years. So perhaps there is a significant disconnect between academia and real life. My story above has been reproduced by thousand others. Or is there something else at play here? Perhaps a conspiracy? If we are all healthy all of a sudden, big Pharma would lose big bucks, and doctor office would have to shut down... maybe artificially sick people are an industry that needs to be kept alive? Cherry-picked and misinterpreted data to fool the public? And perhaps the secret of the Keto diet is much more simple: Unless most "recommended" diets, the Keto diet is not calorie restrictive. People are not hungry. They don't feel constantly starved, cranky, and miserable. Hence, compliance is often high, and people stick with it. At least that was the situation in my case. N=1 N=1 is not that statistically relevant, I hear you say? True. Yet, between 2003 and 2018 there were 62 RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED Trials, and ALL showed that a low carb, high fat diets are more successful in achieving weight loss, than high carb, low fat diets. You failed to bring this up in you "factual" video. Finally, you do not look at the action of Insulin and its influence on weight gain and how reducing insulin can promote weight loss. How do you achieve reduced insulin levels? You guessed it: Low carb diet! Perhaps look at this: ruclips.net/video/LRHir1k9jmE/видео.html
I'd like Greger to explain to me how going low-carb (no longer Keto) means I no longer get hungry, can go 12 hours or more without even thinking about food, and can enjoy large portion sizes nor feel like I'm ever depriving myself. This is coming from someone who loves food and habitually ate in excess of 3000 calories per day before going low carb. It's an amazing way of eating to achieve satiation, but I doubt many of you sheep around here are interested in opening your minds and admitting that a different method can be beneficial for some.
I used to like dr greger until I realized he was the head of a vegan cult and only look at studies that back his world view. I have effectively lost weight and kept it off doing keto for years now. I’m not buying this video at all. I’ve done too much personal research to take advice who thinks veganism is our natural diet. When we can’t get all the nutrients we require from plants but can from animals.
pbpb253 -- is it possible that your previous diet was the typical industrialized diet with a lot of sugary drinks and bread? Simple carbohydrates cause an insulin spike and subsequent glucose drop which triggers hunger. Complex carbohydrates in whole foods are absorbed more slowly and, without that extreme insulin spike, they satiate for a longer time. When I switched to a whole food plant based diet, I ate _more_ and still lost 16 pounds. Note that losing weight wasn't even a goal for me, it happened without any effort. I went from high healthy BMI (just below overweight) to right into the middle of the healthy BMI range. And for @Dirty Sinatra, what nutrients _exactly_ are missing from a vegan diet? Answer, only one, B12. And the only reason that's missing is because only bacteria make B12 and our industrialized water systems, while eliminating harmful bacteria like cholera, also eliminate the helpful bacteria that previously supplied B12. Most cattle get B12 supplements either by injection or in their feed, because while being fattened up in feedlots they drink the same processed water we do. Vegans just eliminate the middle-cow and take our B12 directly. Sure some nutrients, like zinc or selenium, can be an issue for vegans who can't tolerate or just don't like nuts and beans. Same with iron for women who menstruate and who don't eat sufficient beans and green leafy vegetables. But just because a vegan diet is insufficient for some picky eaters doesn't mean it's inherently missing any nutrients for the great majority. And without sufficient vegetables where do you get your Folate (which was named after the produce it was first found in: foliage)? Or vitamin C? Or fiber? Or antioxidants? None of which are present in animal products.
Brad Hansen I was eating quite healthily there for a while, or what I thought was healthy. Oats, fruit, greens, starchy Carbs, nuts, some seeds, lean animal protein, low oil consumption. Ultimately, I don't believe the diet was satisfying enough, and I either consumed too many meals/calories, or would have too many binge periods. Low Carb and significantly increasing Fats has worked effortlessly for me for well over a year now. Of course, I pour over 100's of hours of YT videos and Podcasts on nutrition. Certainly feel like I'm getting a handle on what works for me.
Brad Hansen what I despise about people like you the most is the fact that you just make leaping assumptions about people who have a differing opinion, view or approach. You assume that I eat a traditional American diet. Feed lot cattle and that I torture chickens and poke them full of antibiotics for some scrambled eggs. You assume that I haven’t followed dr greger since he started this channel. You assumed I haven’t lived off a plant based whole food diet for over 10 years. But what I bet you won’t say is What are the 2 most nutritionally dense foods for human consumption. I’ll give you a hint they’re not plant based and they contain every nutrient and vitamin the body requires for daily function. Stop making assumptions and do some real research. Dr greger can’t do all the heavy lifting for you.
This is nonsense. If you eat the same number of calories you won't lose weight unless more of your calories come from fiber. Calories in- calories out, that's all that matters to weight loss. If you want to lose body fat over weight, you have to keep insulin to a minimum, and the only way to do that is to reduce carbohydrate intake.
After years of researching nutrition it is both obvious and logical to me that a whole food plant based diet is the optimal if following the daily dozen provided by Dr. Greger. I also believe that fasting is an amazing health promoting lifestyle and i would love to see Dr. Greger cover these many studies and bring us his professional insight
Intermittent fasting is much *much* harder to do on a vegan diet vs. keto diet. When you're fat adapted and your body runs on ketones, you can easily go long periods of time without eating. Whereas on a vegan diet with the blood sugar / insulin roller coaster, you feel the need to eat more frequently.
Brian Parsons Not ever being on the Keto side of things, you might be right in it being easier while fasting to a large extent if done properly since you’re keto adapted. I’d share some personal thoughts. Recently lost 30lbs over a little over a 2 1/2 month time frame eating a fully satiating whole food plant based diet and doing a 72hr water only fast at the beginning of each month. The experience varies widely from person to person, keto not withstanding. FWIW, first day of fast very mild hunger. 2nd day hunger came would come and go...normal I reckon. 3rd day no hunger.
so i guess the 171lbs i lost doing keto after being diagnosed with heart failure and dilated cardiomyopathy was not only bad for my heart, but my doctors were wrong. nice try! cherry pick some more. oh and by the way keto not only saved my life but i also don't need a heart transplant anymore! thanks to KETO
That's amazing! I also lost a hundred pounds following a Keto Plan it does work for many people congrats on your health and Congrats on finding something that works for you! Keto works if you do it correctly people! 💯♥️
My colleagues said to me the other day “if I ate as many carbs as you do I’d be as big as a house and asleep at my desk”. I retorted, “I used to believe that too”. While they gain weight every year, I stay slim and fit. While they drink coffee all day to stay awake, I ride my bike to and from work. 10 miles round trip daily.
This is the 3rd installment of my keto series. In case you missed the first two, see Is Keto an Effective Cancer-Fighting Diet? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-Keto-an-Effective-Cancer-Fighting-Diet/) and Keto Diet Theory Put to the Test (nutritionfacts.org/video/keto-diet-theory-put-to-the-test/)
NutritionFacts.org Thank you, Dr. Greger! The cycle of low-carb dieting in all its ugly forms must be ended for good.
Maybe I missed this, but what was considered a low-fat diet in terms of calories from fat?
And we would expect to see the same results with whole plant food fats..?! Nuts, olives, avocados etc, do they actually work the same way inside our body?
Zandér Stewart yes. Eat Whole Foods. Pay attention to your essential nutrients. Nutrient deficiency makes your body inefficient leading to weight gain and lack of energy. Iodine and magnesium are often overlooked.
My sister and her husband were vegan for a long time but she hated to mess about in the kitchen, not necessary I know and a really abrupt transition to legumes caused some gastro chaos, so they went keto … and a really fit present energetic guy.husband developed gout -- which I associate with Hogarth's the Rakes' Progress or the impossible cookbooks in the 19th century by Mrs Beaton who I'm pretty sure died in her late 20s possibly not from a surfeit of the food she became famous for , or Charles Dicken's wife in same category. These were privileged women at the height of unregulated Industrial Revolution; agriculture suffered; plant diseases from the 1870s on were endemic, most famously the Irish potato famine … but coming back to anecdote, my much loved sis plus husband are vegan again (whole food plant based) with some encouragement from a neighbour with some property where she can forage for wild celery etc., so everyone is now feeling way better. Whatever gets people in this direction is fine by me; I selfishly want my brilliant sister who remains as always my best friend in my life as long as possible. … long ramble not a good place to talk about the work of Valter Longo. Tx for patience anyone reading!
It was Andrew "SpudFit" Taylor who was my white crow, after being a True Believer in Paleo/Keto for decades. When I stumbled on the spudfit videos, eating nothing but potatoes for a year, I predicted that he'd gain weight, have elevated triglycerides, muscle loss, elevated FBG, and so on. I followed his channel, as he was periodically evaluated by a doctor. When none of the things I predicted happened, and his health instead improved by every objective marker, I had to concede that my premise, the insulin-carbohydrate theory, was simply wrong. I tried a short (3 week) all-potato experiment on myself, and even in that short time my lab results improved dramatically and I dropped a significant amount of weight. After that, I went to whole plant foods 99.9% of the time.
So you guys ate nothing but potatoes and saw weight loss? Hmm I can’t imagine why lol. Seriously though if your health markers improved by only eating potatoes I can’t imagine how unhealthy your previous diet must have been. I assume it was a vegan one lmao.
@@LaurenBurger It's embarrassing to read these comments from people who either did not read the comment to which they're responding, or did not comprehend the comment to which they're responding, because they are, to use a non-vegan idiom, hell bent for leather to defend their Precious.
@@kevinlochley6109 My previous diet was low carb Paleo.
99.99%? how did you come to that exact percentage?
@@kevinlochley6109 potatoes are actually extremely healthy and about 4 grams of protein per potato as well. They got a bad reputation because of all the things we like to add on potatoes that are not healthy. But if all someone eats is potatoes, nothing added, nothing taken away, it is actually pretty nutritionally sound. The people who chose to do this for months on end were using this monodiet to break their junk food addictions. As mono diets go, potatoes are probably the best one you could do
The fact that Dr Atkins was obese with heart issues including hypertension and congestive heart failure before he died should be enough for people on keto to start questioning their long term health. I tried keto, I felt awful and craved the veg and fruits I wasn't allowed to eat, then wondered why my weight loss stalled after a few months of starving my body of basic nutrients but filling up on meat, dairy and fat. Bleh! What was I thinking?
What's important is that you recognized it wasn't working and went a different direction. People are being trained to fear carbs, and they can't mentally overcome the programming
When your keto weight loss stalls, that's when you incorporate fasting to turbo charge your results.
I did Keto and I ate plenty of fruit and veg lol but honestly still felt like I never had energy. I also went Vegan for a little over 2 years tho and started to look like I was dying so I would argue Keto is better than Veganism( Unless you take plenty of supplements of course) but really any diet that forces you to cut out the junk is going to make you feel and look good. Just realize that Dr Gregor is simply a funny guy and that his definition of “Scientific Evidence” is actually just cherry picked studies that fit his narrative...
@@kevinlochley6109 Kevin Hall NIH metabolic ward study is cherry picking? K
@@RedPillVegan Yes. I see that "programing" all the time. I once had a conversation with a woman trying to convince her to eat carrots. She was so convinced that carbs are bad for you that she did not want to touch a vegetable. It took me and someone else at my gym to explain to her that there are 2 types of carbs and she needed to avoid the refined ones.
This is true. All of my coworkers who do keto are still big, while I kept the weight off for years going WFPB.
I noticed same thing... with people on Instagram. Their food posts are disgusting shades of beige and brown, and while there was some weight loss, they are still over weight. They seem content though. 🤷♂️
I've known a few people try keto over the last couple of years, none of which had diabetes. They all eventually quit, put weight back on and felt like they'd failed. A couple tried again but eventually gave up again.
I said nothing because they were all so adamant keto would be the key to successful weight loss and who was I to say different? I was already happy with my diet and had never tried or felt the need to try keto. Now I think I will nudge people to review the science because the more evidence-based facts on keto I hear the more I worry its worse than just another yo-yo dieting fad.
Wyrd Knight humans evolved in a constant state of feast or famine. No plants to eat during the winter months, just what they can hunt and kill, if the animal doesn’t kill them first. Agriculture is relatively new in the overall history of human evolution. Humans thrive while in nutritional ketosis.
@@mtnbikehead Back those claims about nutritional ketosis up with decent research and I'll believe them.
@@mtnbikehead There are winter vegetables, seeds, nuts, and roots to eat in winter. Also preserved, dried and fermented foods. If they lived near water there would be water vegetables also.
Say what you want but I lost 35lbs on low carb and have kept it off 3 years now. I feel much better also.
I have lost 40 lbs over 7 months on a diet that eliminated sugar, processed foods, seed oils and high carbs (grains of all sorts). Generally, my meals consist of 3 types of veggies (that grow above ground) and some form of protein (either meat or fish). After dinner snack is usually 85% dark chocolate and a variety of different nuts. My triglycerides have gone from 146 to 59; LDL particle number is 900; TG / HDL Ratio is .66 and C-Reactive Protein is .44. I think that it is quite clear that the real enemy of human health is processed foods/oils, sugar, too little exercise and too little sleep. A well-formulated vegan/vegetarian diet and a well-formulated low-carb diet are comparable in result.
Great work 👍
caffeine from dark chocolate isn't good for your sleep... it will disrupt your sleep...
Dr. Greger needs to go on JRE
The guy is a martial artist and a PED user, what does he know about nutrition? Furthermore he hates vegans so he would simply poison the well immediately and act like a fool. Dr Greger is above that petty crap.
It would be really great for the people, but sadly JRE has to frail of an ego to let that happen. You think there might be a link with his short height and his need to do "manly things"? He would be slaughtered if he invited Greger ofc. he can't handle that.
It would be wonderful if he was invited to do that!
Vegano Smitty Yeah I wonder if Greger would know what he was in for and prepare and be able to fight back effectively. He’s charismatic, outgoing, and surely quick on his feet but Rogan is as nasty and brutally ignorant and self-assured as they come on this topic. Greger would do well but I really wanna see Garth Davis vs. Rogan, now that would be a friggin slaughter.
Vegan athletes would be better guests for JRE. James Wilks from the game changers please
He forgot to mention an important aspect in Keto. Once in ketosis, your body burn fat while sleeping. Also, he forgot to mention that carbs (rice/bread/pasta etc) raises insulin in your blood stream, sending a messagz to your metabolism to store fat. In fact, Carbs turn in to sugar in your body which also makes you fat.
Low card diet in our era, is not a cash cow, there are thousands of honest nutritionists. Almost all of them tell you that in first few days you will lose water, and once adapted, in ketosis, then you will be losing fat.
Also, Keto alone doesn't work for most of people, including intermittent fasting is the key, and the more you stay on this diet the more you need tondecrease your fat intake to keep the results coming.
Hi so I wanna start losing weight. So what diet shall I do ? So confused.
@@mariamhussain5554 you can do Keto diet: stop eating all kind of sugar and sauces and sweet fruit, and all flours/bread/rice/grains/pasta.
Focus on protein and veggies (green veggies) and healthy fat such as olive oil and coconut oil and omega3 in fish. You should watch your protein intake, the protein portions are very important.
Finally, you should eat twice a day not three times, so either you remove breakfast or dinner and no snack in between. Eating snacks during the day will spike your insulin level, meaning you will store food as fat and that's not optimal for weight loss. All these changes are very hard the first week, but it's worthy down the road.
Thank you so much u explain it so clearly and simple 💗
Dr. G *burning* the keto crowd with science.
QualityGains because a Wfpbd is the optimal diet?
Simyon Lashon Yes, yes it is.
Not all science is good science, this is wack science my friend. I don't know what keto diet this man is talking about. I followed dr. Berg keto and intermittent fasting and I was able to lose a hundred pounds. I don't just listen blindly I test things hopefully you do the same my friend but I doubt it. 💯💪
@@jeepz669 It's obvious you weren't even listening to the video. He never said you can't lose weight with keto or fasting. The studies were about low carb vs low fat and what is better for FAT loss.
@@scoop2448 i was just about to say the same thing :)
I have tried virtually every diet / way of eating - I was always left craving food and feeling hungry all the time. The keto diet (vegan) is the first time in my adult life that I literally don't even think about food until I get real hunger pains. For normal people, I see your point - but for food addicted, obese people the low carb / high fat way of eating will keep them satisfied.
Not if you follow the Dr John McDougall diet you wouldn't. Tried and tested by too many obese people. Even FB groups on it. So,,,,,,,
Nah bruh...
You mention weight loss due to water loss but according to the highlighted article, that’s within the first week/ten days. How do you explain sustained weight loss on keto after over a year? I didn’t have nearly as much the recommended fat intake as I just couldn’t do it to myself in fact, I didn’t check my macro levels at all, just sticking to olive oil, grass-fed butter, cheese, avocado, walnuts, macadamia nuts, savoury fruits & vegetables & vegetarian protein sources keeping my daily carb levels to around 45g/day. Water loss in most diets is common in the first week - ten days. How is sustained weight loss on keto after three-six months explained?
Sorry to hear so much ignorance in the name of science. Real Keto is not all that fat from butter and so on. It’s about % of calories coming from “good” fat as avocados, mtc oil, olive oil, olives, nuts, salmons and so on.
My experience: I never made it to loose fat and not muscle with a normal low fat diet, Mediterranean or zones or whatever. And it was suffering! With keto I almost never suffered, lost 10kg in 45days and didn’t loose not even a gr of lean muscle. Now I’m on a cyclic keto, with some more carbs from veggies and fruit. And I’m doing super fine. Also my triglycerides and acid uric went back to normal after the first week of keto. So, sorry, but this “study” here is not a serious one.
I’m not saying other diets don’t work, they just didn’t for me. Keto did.
It would be nice to be more serious. That’s it.
You've convinced me. I'm going vegan!!!!
Yes Sir! :-)
FINALLY!! It's about time.
I've Explored Exploration I mean you can do both lol
@Raw Intuition Funny guy! 😂😂🤦♀️
@@AuraGold18 😏
The low-carb cult is slowly killing my dad. Thanks for all you do, Dr. Greger.
Low carbohydrates kills nobody! In no way are carbohydrates essential for ones health! Smh!!
You like it when gregor lies to you and misrepresents studies to further his own agenda??? Bizarre twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
What is happening with your dad?
I tried keto and it was just like that. Lost 20 lbs total in about a month, but then I leveled while basically eating the same things. I switched to a low fat, whole food diet and starting losing weight again until I had lost about 60 lbs total. Keto works for some people because the protein helps them feel fuller, but you can eat protein on a low fat diet and the fiber also helps keep us feeling fuller.
I tried the keto thing before I was better educated on how to verify legitimate research. Let me tell you, even when I was increasing my fiber intake and staying keto, I was constantly wiping my butthole. All that extra fat was doing something awful inside my guts. I would go on runs and my butt itched. It was horrifying.
Losing more doesn't mean it's works better ... people who is on keto diet lost weight slowly but surly and they didn't feel dissatisfied
I lost 90+ on a WFPB diet and I feel amazing, in the earlier days I would eat bakery bread before bed and still lost weight lol
Carry on dude. Best of luck!!!
Larry30102 I’m a woman but thanks 🤠
Vegan Buddhist Soorrrryyy.
Nice dude
1. That is awesome 2. WFPB?
Totally disagree as an ex vegan now ketovore. Feel amazing doing it the old way as our ancestors ate. Everyone is different, find what works for you. Some thrive on a vegan or plant based diet others do better low carb higher fat with animal protien. We all need to find our own mojo and change things up every now and then so body does not stagnate into same food routine. I.F. has been proven to help with autophagy as Dr J Fung has mentioned in his videos.
well that's great for you but a bloody nightmare for the planet then. What the hell are you going to do if we all stop consuming so much animal products to save the environment????? Think about it.
another problem is any food labeled "low fat" is actually HIGH SUGAR. The solution to that is to purchase non-prepackaged foods, but try telling that to friends & family who found their fix.
Well I went on a vegan diet for 12 months and lost 18 lbs 218/200. I quit the diet and went back on the SAD diet for a year and a half & I got up to 224. Then I went on a carnivore diet 70/80% of my calories from animal fats and the rest protein with no carbs & in 4 months I lost 59 lbs 224/165! I have all my muscle tone and a slight 6 pack and I feel amazing! I went from a 38” waist to a 31” waist. I did not exercise on either diet and I saw results on both even though I personally saw amazing results on the carnivore diet. I think it’s like the doctors always tell you, “everyone is different”! 👍
Just try things out and do what works best for you! What could it hurt to try both? At least in both diets your off the SAD way of eating which is the real culprit!😁
Heart disease, and a host of other potentially hidden things "can hurt."
Not all calories are the same, and some have consequences to long-term health that are not obvious from day 1.
All I know is going on a keto diet makes it easier for me to eat less and not feel hungry. No other diet has ever helped me do that. 1500 calories a day, fasting long periods, not feeling terrible after eating tons of carbs. the study needs to measure the human component not just the theory of increased fat loss based on calories on vs calories out.
If you want to do something meaningful, turn your comment section rage toward Kraft, General Mills, McDonald's, PepsiCo, etc. Convenience and fast foods are the beginning and end of this whole diet mess. Without disease-causing "foods" engineered to addict you and relieve you of your money, all these diet questions are academic.
Excellent comment, just like the boy who is in the news yesterday who is vegan and only ate potato chips white bread and french fries and he completely lost his eyesight at 18 years old. Vegan? Anyone ?
@@KeyofDavid5778 Well, that's eating disorder territory. It's not really a commentary on veganism any more than eating nothing but pork rinds and lard until you go blind reveals anything about paleo. Tree bark is vegan but nobody suggests you eat it solely, if at all. The actual problem is what's making us sick. It's not so much the measures we take to try to get better...even if those measures also cause problems. The underlying problem is still there. The cause of this entire mess is processed convenience foods. They cause disease, disability, and death. Our collective outrage should be focused there like a laser.
This is a great comment but so far down the list. Below ones with zero likes. Seems like people don't want to hear the truth. Maybe they're addicted to their own outrage more than they care to fix the problem or even hear solutions.
but Greger, you never mention INSULIN. It's Insulin spikes that prevent weight loss and fat spikes insulin less.
Perhaps people have success on low-carb because they feel satisfied eating less calories? I think people like low-carb diets because they are easy to follow, it’s easier to eat less because you feel satisfied sooner. Any studies on the feeling of fullness on low-carb diets vs non low-carb diets?
From my friends, and my own personal experience, I think it works because you have people that begin with no dietary restrictions: eating literally everything! And then switching to a ‘keto’ diet where you stop eating cakes, pies, eating lettuce instead of buns on burgers etc. Basically you get people who are shooting themselves in both feet to just shooting one foot. I’m on a wfpb diet now but I do remember losing a bunch of weight on my paleo/keto days and there’s something to be said for seeing the number on the scale drop and being motivated to keep exercising etc.
Low carb diets outperform low fat diets fairly consistently in randomised controlled trials.
They are especially more effective in ad libitum (eat as much as you want) rcts.
So, yes.
Scrap Bus did you watch this video ?
@@MikeyGrande yes. I watched it. Still bewildered why Greger chose one 6 day study to make his point when there are numerous randomised controlled trials over many weeks and many months.
[whispers] actually I do know. Because they dont support his general premise. 🤫
This. Food cravings went to nothing when I'm on keto. To the point I would often struggle to meet my daily calorie goals and had to almost force myself to eat.
The problem is maintaining that weight, if you just cut fat and eat carbs you´ll eventually regain the same amount of weight you lost
Are you telling me that my 70lb that I've kept off for almost 2 years from doing keto was just water? What?
I lost 35 lb in 6 months on keto tried the fat reduction method for 20 years failure plus I lost my gall bladder.
If anyone can bury keto for good, it's Dr Greger! Would love to see him debate the likes of Jason Fung, Benjamin Bilkman, etc.
But he can't bury it; it works very well for most of the people who try it.
@@swissladydriver8980 why does so many stop then?
Lol this guy cherry picks studies and uses them as his evidence. He makes a few good points here and there and he’s pretty funny but you shouldn’t trust anyone who isn’t open to other diets. Especially if the diet happens to be working for thousands of people. Personally I’ve tried nearly every diet except the Whole Foods diet and a couple others and I can tell you that the Vegan diet made me personally feel like absolute shit. Both the carnivore and keto diet made me feel super tired at first then it got better after a while. Honestly though I think a bit of carbs is good for me and most healthy people. Just gotta realize everyone is different and this guy is not someone I would trust.
@@kevinlochley6109 if you're gonna claim that he cherry picks, then show us better science than metabolic ward studies - ohh wait there aint none(except for meta's of metabolic ward) - you think there might be a reason why they call it the "gold standard of science"? - great job showing ur ignorance
@@StillTrustNo1 Do they? I personally will never go back to whole grains, beans, etc. Not being bloated feels way too good.
Eating fat to lose body fat. Someone sees a problem here? 😅
Nope.
We live in an Idiocracy...common sense is not so common anymore.
@@bagiee1 Indeed!
Then your a moron do your own damn research
Except that it actually works for a great % of people.
Fat is satiating, therefore you actually end up consuming less calories, and losing FAT (surprise,surprise) on your body.
Wow. This video is wrong and irresponsible on so many levels. Gregor is a walking straw man fallacy. He should be ashamed.
I find it faszinating how everyone is happy that "the plant diet wins", while the term "ketogenic diet" doesn't mean that it can't be a WFPB diet... it just means almost no carbs. (And yes, that's possible with just plants.)
You're delusional
Just discovered this channel. As a physician and evidence-based medicine advocate, I am thrilled to see finally somebody telling a compelling story based on available published evidence. Congrats. That said, have a couple of comments or questions.
1. This is too fast/condensed for me. Can you please put the list of quoted references right here for everybody to review. And/or, have you considered creating a lengthier version for those who would like to understand the paper more in general to be able to follow your line of argument?
2. What is the physiological explanation? Long term water loss doesn't make sense to me, but lean body mass / muscle would. Is it possible that a minimal amount of glucose is needed to prevent gluconeogenesis from protein breakdown? Or, if glucose would largely be replaced by proteins, would we then be able to prevent muscle protein breakdown as there is sufficient in circulation for the gluconeogenesis in the liver?
*Drops the science mic*
The best kind of mic drop
You think this is Science omfg you were let down by your education system.
There are literally hundreds of randomized trails that prove that keto/ low carb is healthier in terms of most medical markers, but sustainable. Lots of people want to believe that plant based diets are better for you, but in terms of research, very few randomized trials exist, and those that do, are poorly done showing bias from the onset. Low fat = low life expectancy.
@@mtnbikehead I would really like to see these randomized trials that "prove that keto/ low carb is healthier in terms of most medical markers, but sustainable"
Also there's a shit ton of studies that back up plant based diets, basically every single study. Go to this channel and search for something like "Cancer" or "Diabetes" or "Eggs", etc, you'll find some damn good randomized double blind placebo controlled studies here that backs up plant based diets.
@@mtnbikehead LOL
The author of the study gregor used blasted him on twitter for misrepresenting his findings... Gregor loves to lie to you lot and you lot love being in your echo chamber. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
*It's important to remember that long-term sustainability is key, and incorporating other healthy lifestyle habits, such as regular exercise and balanced nutrition, is essential for overall health and well-being.*
I've known this for decades, but it's nice to see it proven by science!
Eelke Aptroot Dr Gregors definition of scientific evidence is a cherry picked study lmao. Don’t get me wrong I think Keto is highly overrated and only beneficial for people with Insulin Resistance and other similar issues but at the same time I’ve never seen a more ridiculous diet than the vegan one. You want to cut out animal foods and call it an optimal diet? Honestly is this a joke? I mean do you know anything about how certain nutrients are converted and stored in the body? I won’t get into it but seriously do some research on retinol and other things you can’t get from a vegan diet. It’s extremely scary that so many people could fall for this.
Well everybody is entitled to their opinion, I do like the the fact that the cherries he does pick are published in renowned journals. From what I understand about insuline resistance is that it's caused by a high fat diet, so not eating carbs is kinda fighting the symptoms not the cause. When it comes to my experience eating plant-based, I've been vegan for over 4,5 years and I was a vegetarian for over a decade before that. So whatever the research about retinol says, I probably convert enough beta-caroteen into retinol myself or I would have needed glasses or gone blind by now.
It most certainly is cherry picked.
Heres a list of randomised controlled trials comparing low fat to low carb...
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Proven by science??? The author of the paper blasted Gregor for misrepresenting his study. The author even states that the opposite of grgors statements are true. So now ask yourself. What else has gregor lied to you about?? twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
@@eelkeaptroot1393 when your energy stores become full, you become insulin resistant. When they empty insulin sensitivity goes up again. There are so many testimonials out there but many people that have become fat adapted choose to stay that way and permanently cut out carbs, even if they could handle them again because being in ketosis feels so good
I never regret for doing Keto diet. I eat ones a day for healthy food most what I enjoy. I am a witness for Keto that I became a very healthy and energetic when I quit all sugar and sugary good. It’s not about losing fat it’s about getting rid of all the pain and inflammation and the toxics that caused the unhealthy food we eat. Keto is clean and healthy if we understand not to eat everything that you hear about doctors or social media. Listen to your body and you will know what you body needs. Thank you
Except keto is not clean because animal products contain multiple known carcinogens like heterocyclic amines, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, and neu5gc. Also eating higher on the food chain increases pollutant bioaccumulation so you are eating more pollutants.
WOW!! This is a REVELATION!!! Thank you for this video!!
No, this is bullshit many people want it to be true to go back and eat candy but it is simply not true. Greger's advice is what has made America fat and unhealthy while other countries eating healthy fats are lean and have far less health issues.
Also gregor is misrepresenting the study to further his own agenda. Here is what the author of the paper has to say about this video. Now ask yourself what else has gregor lied to you about?? twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
I don't see any mention of actually maintaining KETOSIS, only that of a "reduced fat" vs "reduce carbohydrate" diet which is not necessarily a KETO DIET.
The main thing about the keto diet is that you eat fewer calories because you're satiated quicker. Think about your personal experience. How easy is it to overeat pizza or cereal or cookies? It's much more difficult to eat the same number of calories of meat, eggs, avocado, etc. Dr. Greger doesn't even go into this fact AT ALL. Hopefully he'll address it in a future video. It definitely feels like he's cherry picking the studies for this video.
Personally, I'm still on the fence which way to go - ketosis vs WFPB w/ fish, but leaning towards WFPB. It seems like every person on RUclips is biased and cherry picks their info....so frustrating. Are there any unbiased and open nutritionists out there?
Ive lost 100 pounds following dr. Eric Berg keto and intermittent fasting protocol. I eat plenty of veggies, I don't hate vegetarians but what I do hate are biased science studies and hidden agendas! The People's Health comes first! If something works for you good do it but test all things and test all theories to find out for yourself if they work! 💯💪
I agree with all your comments. He definitely needs to do a better job of analyzing the keto research out there and not be afraid to say something besides WFPB can work in dropping pounds and helping people be healthier. He'll never say anything is better than WFPB but he should be open to saying that something else can be beneficial and can be better than SAD.
Thank you so much for all these evidence based keto videos! So sad a lot of people think the immediate weight they lose is fat when they're on keto.
Ryne Collies the most immediate weight loss is excess water. It takes a few days to a week to get into nutritional ketosis; faster if you are an athlete or fasting.
The non athlete couch potato takes a fair bit longer.
I am low carb, and do days of full keto style diet when I have a few days I can’t workout.Many of the comments here have zero merit. I find that this vid is deliberately misleading.
We evolved over millions of years eating animal fat and protein. No agriculture, no grocery stores. People in the northern latitudes would go months during the winter, no vegetables, no edible plants in the winter, yet survived and thrived.
Obesity, diabetes, hypertension, coronary artery disease and many other diseases all at record highs now. High glycemic carbs and vegetable oils and such don’t oxidize as well as the good fats. I am 53 and lost a tonne of fat, eating more steak, eggs, butter, unsweetened oatmeal with berries and nuts. My veggies are lower glycemic.Keto diet allows for lots of veggies, berries and nuts.
Choose what works for you. But don’t do yourself a disservice by only going to one source or doing the confirmation bias research.
Look up insulin resistance and how to fix it. Use lots of sources.
I am holding steady at my goal weight. My blood work is perfect now. My fitness is at a 30 year high for weights and endurance.
That water lost lowers blood pressure and reduces inflammation. That's good isn't it?
Rockhead Gary Being WFPB I would agree with most of what you said. We are firstly survivors and consequently consumers. If it wasn’t for animal consumption and ketosis we’d be dead as a species. But the way I look at it if the body was presented with choice of carbs or fat for energy, it would select carbs. It’s our preferred energy source, and quite frankly I’ll go with nature designs, meat consumption not withstanding. A person has to do what works for them. Best wishes.
@@mtnbikehead Your personal opinion is valid, because it is subjective, but this is not an anthropologically sound statement and paraphrases quackery like, "Man: The Hunter": _We evolved over millions of years eating animal fat and protein._ All research says that the hominids from which we descend were eating a mostly plant-based diet until migration to northerly climes, at which point plant foods were still favored unless privation periods were experienced.
It's too bad all these studies are from 1984 to 1995 there was only one study from 2015 in the whole video. Outdated research. I was vegan / vegetarian for over 35 years and got in the car wreck and was on many drugs went Keto and got off all my drugs and recovered 100% And now only eat one meal a day for the last two to three years.
I tried keto and found it very unsustainable. But I also did find my sugar cravings go down drastically. Do I could see how it can help some people keep more control of what they are eating.
Ashley Miller Is you’re diet plant based? I’d recommend checking out the Nutmeg Notebook RUclips channel. One thing that has helped me is the concept of a chopped salad. I get such a wide and large amount of nutrients that my sugar cravings have gone
way down. Best of luck
Larry30102 awesome! I will totally check it out
Keto has kept my cravings under control I eat less I go longer without eating I've pretty much cut out all sugar and have increased my veggie intake. I've managed to stick to my Keto Plan by dr. Berg and I lost a hundred pounds and I've never felt better or looked better 💪💯
@@MsSpicynipples wow what an ignorant statement! if you're some kind of crazy bodybuilder what you're saying might work if you're an average person your advice is terrible bro. Sugar is the enemy. If you have the genetics to take large amounts of sugar good for you! we don't all have the genetics to be able to take massive amounts of sugar like you. Very ignorant statement my sugar loving friend.
I am praying this within my connections for years. everyone is focused on the (wrong) numbers. the scale doesn't mean anything. unless it's a bodyfat scale which are totally off anyway. better get a big mirror instead.
Keto v vegan smack down in 3...2...1
*_”The False Hope Syndrome”_*
_Keto is really healthy guys, Dr. G made all that stuff up_ 🤔
keto is a useless fad much like veganism. a plant dominant diet with occasional animal products is best.
pusang halaw what are you talking about. What do you mean by occasionally?? Like once a month once a week? You sound like a cult puppet
i'm a born skeptic but if you say i'm a cult puppet, then maybe i am.
i go by percentage. 85-90 percent of the calories i ingest are unprocessed plant based. for example: i eat rice 3 times daily and 4 out of 5 times i have pulses. 50 grams of mixed ground pork and beef go into 500 grams of legumes, 300-400 grams of carrot, celery & onion, plus maybe 100 grams of garlic, another 100 or more grams of chopped bell peppers.
maybe twice a week i'll make a blue cheese or parmesan sauce for my steamed veg and mushrooms.
yes, it's a cult puppet diet for sure.
@@pusanghalaw Veganism isn't a "fad", it's an ethical stance against animal exploitation.
pusang halaw again wth are you talking about?? You just said you eat meat. So it sounds like you eat meat every day so that’s not occasional. You people need to stop demonizing meat and start treating it as the nutritional essential that it is. I used to love this channel until I realized he’s been cherry picking studies for years and leading people to a cult like mentality that you can’t even understand your exhibiting.
Can you link the study please
blackstatis 0 The study references can be found at the bottom of the video at nutritionfacts.org
Here is what the author of the study has to say about this very video.... Gregor is misrepresenting the findings and the author even went so far as to say the opposite of what gregor says in this video is actually true... I guess vegans love being lied to int heir echo chamber.. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
Let me say I love Dr. Greger's work on plant based eating and he has had much to do with my going fully vegan about 6 years ago.
However, I have lost more weight, lowered blood sugar and have more energy as a keto vegan. My weight loss alone seems to contradict the 17 man study. This video assumes that by eating more fats, one would increase total calories and negate the fats burned which hasn't been the case for me. There is a loss of craving to eat carbs and I actually eat far less calories. So the number of reduced calories by eating far less carbs has been much greater than the extra good fat calories.
I used to be low fat vegan but plateaued in insulin resistance improvement. I went to vegan keto because the fat burning vs glucose burning made allot of sense to me. The only difference between keto vegan and what Dr Greger and the Forks Over Knives group of Doctors espouse is keto vegan increases the good fats such as coconut oil, avocados, nuts and seeds instead of starchy veges such as potatoes, rice, corn, wheat etc. I am still a vegan and I get the benefits of no animal products. So we're no that far apart. I also stay away from most fruits other than limes and do several low glycemic berries such as blueberries, blackberries and strawberries.
The other thing that drew me to keto vegan is that of the three macros, carbs is the only macro that humans do not need at all. It doesn't make sense to me to up the starchy plant carbs in the face of that fact and the blood sugar spikes I get from them.
Additionally the fat caused cell insulin resistance concept does not explain why so many diabetics have dramatic A1C drops on keto (vegan or not).
The reason your experience is different to waht is depicted in this video is because gregor misrepresented the study. Heres what the author of the study had to say about this video. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
I’d appreciate it if you would put the URL of the papers that you reference below your video so that I may read them for myself.
Go to the website, they're all there.
@@Joseph1NJ Exactly what I was going to say
I just don't understand what these videos are hoping to achieve. You may lose more weight on a low fat diet but carbs make me hungry, they make me snack. I'm looking for food an hour after a bowl of rice. It's not a like for like comparison because I'd be really hungry on the one option. As for water weight, it's not a gimmick if you feel better without it, and you consider your natural state to be without it. Same goes for not shitting and farting all day. If I'm choosing to not be bloated, hungry, full of water then fat burning numbers are meaningless.
Keto should have been addressed ages ago.
It was back in the 1950s and 60s when everybody ate food from a farm with dairy cream butter an animal products and farm vegetables people ....slipped into ketosis two or three times a year mainly in the winter without even knowing it because their fat content was so high. Then the low-fat gimmicks for dieting came out in the 70s and 80s.
It was, that is why humans survived as a species. Our entire evolution depended on our bodies ability to burn fat and absorb animal protein.
You mean 100 million years ago when nature begun making humans carnivores and scavengers of fat... Yeah why hasn't this been done sooner...
Scott Gabelman Interesting point. Reminds me of my grandfathers farm in Minnesota. With the low fat craze of the past decades it should be renamed to high sugar. In some aspects, the fat reduction was not all that great. It just gave an excuse for food scientist to shove as much sugar and hfcs into products.
@@Larry30102 If you think about it all the bad things you know about fat come from people selling you an "alternative" either a super toxic fat made from seed oils falsely called vegetable oils, or sugar. Former president Eisenhower's hear-attack was most likely due to fake butter aka margarine consumption and sugar, but people selling the stuff were already con artists and well aware how damaging their product was, so they spare no expense using the president's craze and acted first and with malicious intent to blame real food for what their crap was doing to people... Long story short they won, and this is USA today a nation where we have diabetic children on drugs, people who grow up to be obese! and nobody can be convinced to save their lives... The American diet its so bad that in fact you would be way better off on this charlatan's diet, but certainly not in optimum health.
I know some people who have lost a ton of weight but they cut out tons of processed food and restricted calories. I try to tell them to cut calories with whole plant based foods but they are so convinced it was the Keto and continue on their path of destruction.
You don't cut calories on keto/carnivore, you become satiated and eating
Shawn Baker is gonna love this 😂😂😂
Carnitards logic: "But he lifts more weight than Dr. Greger" >>> Veganism debunked
Eni
Bro!!! That is solid
YOU are gonna love this!!! twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390 Gregor the conman being called out by the author of the paper he is using in this video lol
Keto diet is the way to go. I’ve used it for the last 3 years. The best thing that ever happened to me.
Go get em Dr. G.
He a liar and a con who is taking advantage of your ignorance. The author of the paper used in this video has something to say about this video. Maybe take a look. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
if you use low carb/keto or low fat it works in both ways but fat is used for more than energy in the body so i rather eat fat than empty calories in form of carbs
Another great video of dropping science on the keto crowd. Why do I feel like I am watching a captivating TV series just waiting for your next episode to drop? I fist pump every time you upload.
@@CarbageMan , virtually every diet consisting of anything except pounds of the most offensive processed foods will reverse issues as horrendous as 100+ lb obesity. Your case shows that even keto makes the cut. Glad to hear you're healthier, but please don't harm others by spreading your ignorance.
@Carbage Man I'm curious, what do your cholesterol levels look like now?
@@CarbageMan , sigh. Your argument is that keto > carbed vegan because you lost 100 pounds on keto? Please tell me you don't find this logical
Low carb outperforms low fat diets in randomised controlled trials (especially ad libitum trials). Surprised this is not mentioned in this video.
I wonder why... 🤔
@@CarbageMan, I refuse to believe that you can't understand "keto > carbed vegan" where carbed vegan simply means vegan with carbs (as opposed to a keto and vegan diet). Have a good rest of your life trolling. Nothing personal.
Did they measure that the people participated in the test actually were in a state of ketosis? Seems to me reducing kalories by 800, does not necessarily does that.
Thank you!!
Its ok you can thank me later. Here is the author of the study blasting gregor for misrepresenting his study. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
I’ve been on keto for over a year, more specifically, a lacto/ovo, vegetarian, Mediterranean keto diet. I have lost 25kgs but my sleep on 20-30g carbs a day was severely impacted. Adding carbs to 45g-50g day helped my sleep but it’s still not perfect. I have plateaued for about 3 months now with just 7kgs to go so am interested in trying a lower fat model to shift post-menopausal fat storage around my abdomen which had only marginally decreased during the diet.
Jimmy Moore is all you need as proof
Great work as usual Dr Gregor. I had the opportunity to do a presentation to my class of nursing students on the vegan diet last week and I used three of your videos! Hopefully I opened some eyes :)
#GoVegan
#EndCapitalism
End capitalism 🤣 Yes, we will all be losing weight under communism.
Did you show the interview with dr Greger where he denounced the vegan diet in favor of the whole food plant based diet?
Doctor Love omg stop dude lmao. WFPB is what I meant 🙄
@@Dumbledore6969x Sorry I was confused since the WFPB diet is anti vegan yet you have to go vegan hashtag.
Nikki H Especially if the United States tries to crush it as usual! Lol. Imagine how successful the USSR may have been without the constant economic and military threat put on them by the US to keep them down. Imagine how successful Cuba could be without the destructive embargo we’ve had on them for 70 years now 😂 Even with embargo, Cuba provides healthcare to all of its citizens, unlike the United States, trains doctors that travel around the world and help the poor, we’re the first to eliminate HIV/AIDS transmission from mother to baby, and were the first to develop a lung cancer vaccine. I love when westerns act like communism just magically fails... nah, there’s a reason 😂 Your governments can’t handle that the people have democratized, no longer want the rich running things.
Down with the ketardogenic diet.
Thank you for this info!
Its ok you can thank me later. Here is the author of the study blasting gregor for misrepresenting his study. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
Keto diet... when bruh science>real science
Pickle Beaker! Vegan diet... when people can’t look at studies and realize how poorly put together they are so they just go along with what a Dr says and end of severely malnourished lol
Dr Gregors definition of scientific evidence is a cherry picked study lmao. Don’t get me wrong I think Keto is highly overrated and only beneficial for people with Insulin Resistance and other similar issues but at the same time I’ve never seen a more ridiculous diet than the vegan one. You want to cut out animal foods and call it an optimal diet? Honestly is this a joke? I mean do you know anything about how certain nutrients are converted and stored in the body? I won’t get into it but seriously do some research on retinol and other things you can’t get from a vegan diet. It’s extremely scary that so many people could fall for this.
Most Keto people I have come across are low IQ sheep.
@GFY You do realise not all humans can convert beta carotene into vitamin A right? So what for them, if they are lucky enough to diagnose this, add yet another pharmaceutical to this supposedly natural human diet diet?
@@kevinlochley6109 The 'cherry picked' study doesn't even back up his claims, the author of the study has blasted Gregor on twitter for misrepresenting his study. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390 The guy likes to manipulate low IQ people like TheWodeh in order to further his agenda.
I love the video, as a level 6 vegan I am thinking we should outlaw all this keto stuff. It's wrong and unhealthy.
Who is "we"? Are you a member of a neo-crypto-fascist gang fighting against the freedom of choice?
@@twn5858 It was clearly a joke you peanut.
@@LaurenBurger Not to mention the risk of an addiction to certainty, a form of blindness to some.
You can say this, but i see alot of RUclipsrs talking about a bad experience with Veganism(just keep that in mind). Plant based diet consumers have the same morbidity and mortality rates as regular diet consumers with regards to cancer and Alzheimer's you actually have a video on this...but this only happens if they do it wrongly, & in that video you actually highlight the importance of Vitamin B12 supplementation and ground flaxseed in a plant based diet. In the same way, Keto diet consumers will get negative results if they do Keto the wrong way. I'd be more glad if you did another video on how to do Keto the right way, rather than criticizing it in video after video yet there are countless testimonies of people who've been on it for years and are healthy. Thank you.
Wow, what trash. So I guess my 70 pounds and my diabetic dad's weight loss on keto and glucose normalization was a hoax.
Heres what the author of the study had to say about this video. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390 Gregor is a master manipulator
Let's not forget how this fad diet also spawned all the 'Keto Coaches'.
Carl Michaelis - You’re right, low-carb is not new, but Keto is just the latest version. Before that, it was just a dietary treatment for pediatric epilepsy. Every fad diet has weight loss success stories...every last one of them. That doesn’t make them healthy diets.
@@megavegan5791 You do know that pre roads and supermarkets, people where on ketosis all the time right? You ate all you could eat and that included grains but just out of necessity to last through the winter. So being in ketosis it's a natural human state which means this is how the body works.
So if you don't get in ketosis you run in to a lot of health problems. Eating vegetables is a form of fasting, which can get you in ketosis as well.
The Keto Diet is basically a modernized Atikins Diet. Same lousy diet just repackaged.
Wylabley - Now fortified with extra colon cancer!
what are the dangers of keto diets? this is what i am more interested. people still prefer keto as a shortcut to weight loss.
roldan pelagio That video is coming. Stay tuned!
@@o_o825 i am a follower since 2017. i learned a lot from dr. greger
in a word..longevity.
@@hilomona But if the People *are* healthy, then the Foods are healthy for those People. Anyway, on Keto, you don't eat burgers with bread, so that makes a huge difference.
@@swissladydriver8980 Plenty of smokers are "healthy" too. Nice logic error there.
The Keto diet has become synonymous with ‘non-scale victory’ and for good reason.
@@CarbageMan Why are you still wasting your time on this channel? Don't you have Patreon payments to make to the Keto scam doctors?
Carbage Man Take an oral glucose tolerance test to see how ‘reversed’ your diabetes really is.
@@megavegan5791 just make sure that they come off low carb for a few days before administering the oral glucose test.
Thats a hugely important element to distinguish between peripheral insulin resistance (temporary) and pathological IR.
I think you migh be confused between the two
Scrap Bus - And what would you call a diabetic who claims to have ‘reversed’ their insulin resistance by depriving their body of carbohydrates?
@@megavegan5791 insulin resistance doesnt 'cure itself' in three days. Its a pathological condition. But taking a bolus of glucose after an extended term on a low carb site will show the muscles not uptaking glucose. However, this is temporary. Its exactly the same mechanism as taking a bolus of glucose after *fasting* for an extended period. Fasting has been demonstrated in studies to improve insulin sensitivity . Do you agree? Exactly the same thing happens.
What about the keto dieters who lost 30,40,50lbs and more? All water? I don't think so
Fewer calories. A high fat diet is not terribly palatable. We've known this for a while now, and paleo people are finally admitting this is where the weight loss, if any, comes from.
@@andrewclancy2511 I believe a plant based diet is the healthiest option but we can not deny the effect ketosis has on fat loss
@@Charlie-502 when calories are held constant, people lose less fat on a keto diet than a balanced one. That is the point of the research Dr. Greger points out. The weight loss people on a keto diet experience is real, but it's not from ketosis. If it was, the studies Dr. Greger pointed to would find that people in ketosis lose more fat. Instead, they found the opposite. So the weight loss people on a keto diet have comes from the fact that people eating a high fat diet eat fewer calories. That's all. It's not the magic of ketosis. It's the unpalatability of eating a ton of fat. If that works for you, go for it.
If you actually watched the video, you do lose fat on Keto, but less efficient than on low fat diets.
@@joyruppert4710I watched the video. He cited a study of only six days. There are many people who have lost so much weight on keto. As I said I believe plant based is the overall healthiest diet but don't tell me ketosis doesn't burn body fat bc ketosis is burning body fat
I think maybe the benefits are in the ketones though too, people with schizophrenia in clinical trials have gone in remission on the keto diet. It seems to be a lot healthier for your brain or people with insulin resistance.
Long overdue. Thanks so much. I remain primarily on the Joel Fuhrman plant based diet . More specifically, a plant based diet, utilizing high nutrient density whole foods with limited protein, and no added oils, sweeteners, or salt.
carpe diem jonah why would you limit protein?
@@leggomyweavo who's limiting protein? Plants contain plenty of protein
If keto doesn't work then it just wasn't for them, it's a good lifestyle choice, but you have to genuinely want to do it, also your videos a load of crap, everyone should watch Ken Berry for real information, he was skeptical but went along with it for a while and never looked back.
Finally the video is up
I always thought the best way to do a diet would be:
- Low/no simple carbs, and other processed food.
- High whole veggies, fat from nuts and legumes.
- Moderate fruits.
- A very lower amount of animal protein from fish, birds, and insects.
- And a weekly/vitamin during weeks where you'd miss out on B12 Naturally.
Have you tried it?
baby freed Agreed. So simple
@@WeighedWilson Yeah, minus the bugs, I can't get over the mental blocks. The hard thing is the prepping... I am lazy.
Keto is an unhealthy fad diet. Hopefully eating plant based will continue to become popular.
@Peter Rabitt does wikipedia actually say that?
Zhar OfEarth The /s means it’s sarcasm.
does this apply to plant fats too?
All fats are 9 calories per gram. Unfortunately, yes it does. Fat is still a healthy part of the diet, and some vitamins can't be absorbed without fat. I think what the good doctor here is try to stress isn't no fat, but anti-fat-based diets. Keto goes overboard with the fats. If you're not struggling with heart disease, you don't have to be super restrictive with your fat intake. This series is just trying to take the wind out of the Keto movements sails.
nope To me it depends on your state of health. If you’re young lean and healthy, plant fats are great. But if Dr Esselstyns teachings are correct regarding cardiac cripples, fat in any form could be bad. You just have to evaluate your situation.
GFY Agreed
A good diet is a diet you'll stick with. Keto drops insulin which reduces hunger. As a result, people will stick with Keto. Keto is definitely not for everyone but great for diabetics.
I don't think weight loss is the number one reason to do Keto. It is a good benefit but reducing inflammation and blood pressure and mental clarity are bigger benefits
They *don't* stick with keto though! It's a *very* hard diet to stick with. Most people are never really in ketosis at all and most will quit because it's so difficult to maintain. There is research on all this.
Who sticks with keto? Their drop-out rate must be astronomical.
@@LivingMidnight I found the Keto diet the only diet I could stick to. Too many cravings with other diets. The key is to empty the cupboard and replace with clean organic food. intermittent fasting becomes possible once you have become fat adapted. This has freed up my lunch time to get errands run.
Of course it is not only a weight loss diet. In my opinion if done properly it is an ultimate biohack to make yourself more stronger and resilient, both physically and mentally. Do you think US Navy seals would consider implementing keto diet if it was something that would make you sick and weak like this doctor preaches in his videos ? And in my opinion it is the ONLY diet for diabetics if they want to live..
...and there you have it! Thanks for doing the research and posting!!
Damn, about to start me a low fat diet (vegan ofc) ! Lol Also, I find it funny how the "why I am no longer vegan videos" are always talked about yet I constantly see youtubers who went Keto (and talked about how amazing it is and how amazing they feel) and then drop it (they just don't make a big video out of it - embarrassed probably)!! I can think of 3 off the top of my head.
Courtney HAMILTON Well it’s certainly confusing. In the vids I’ve watched of failed vegans they have gone through stages of various vegan lifestyles. Without a doubt they all tried a Raw diet. While it can done, I think overall it’s dangerous if not done correctly. Another mistake that new folks make is that they don’t eat enough volume. Studies have shown that we tend to eat the same amount of volume when changing diets. So if going Whole Food Plant Based(not simply vegan) you might need to eat more to feel well. Oh yeah, some folks experience some withdrawal symptoms...normal. Good luck
@@Larry30102 I have been vegan 3 years... just gonna cut my fat down a bit...
Courtney HAMILTON Just curious. The purpose for cutting the fat? And what is typical fat consumption? Would you consider yourself whole food plant based? Thx
@@Larry30102 cutting fat because I have like 15-20lbs I want to lose. I am not sure the typical but I do eat a lot of hummus, tahini and cashew cream type things. I would say I am WFPB 90% of time but I just consume too many calories I guess.
@@courtneyhamilton4495 I think we're in the same boat! I saw a good explanation recently from Dr. Klaper [I think] about why eating fat keeps you from losing weight. It was something like this: the body is not wasteful, and it's easier to store dietary fat as fat than to convert it from carbs to fat. So when we eat it, out body wants to hang onto it 'just in case' That doesn't mean we CAN'T eat fat, but when trying to lose weight, that should be the first place to cut. I think the video was 'vegan nutrition: pure and simple' We all talk about how weight loss is important, but in reality, our bodies want to keep us from starving. Here in the US most of us are overweight, but throughout history [including now] starvation is a real thing. Hard to relate to with literally tons of food within reach. Pam Popper had a couple of good videos also about what to do when weight loss stops. Hope this helps : )
These studies are funded by companies that support non ketogenic diets because all of their products would be obsolete. I have seen the results of keto on my self in one and half month I lost 6.5 kg and other health benefits without doing any exercise. I don’t have sugar craving nor hunger and full of energy and have lots of focus and all my friends are telling me that I am younger than I was before. This channel is working for the companies that infect our bodies with useless food. All those studies are done and research are funded by the same companies that infect our bodies with diseases. Don’t believe in it.
Love this info- thank you!!!!
If you love this then you will also love the author of the paper blasting Gregor the conman for misrepresenting his study too, enjoy. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
By the way. Keto is not Atkins with only minor tweaks and should not be confused with it. Atkins increased protein to make up for less carbs. Keto keeps protein to about 15-20% which is a major macro difference. I do agree that animal products are unhealthy in any percentage. But a vegan can also be keto by staying away from starchy plants. This is what has worked for me and I'm not disagreeing with Dr. Greger on most of his work.
I can speak only from personal experience as someone with severe metabolic syndrome, high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol.
Going vegan lowered cholesterol, but not enough to eliminate medicine. Blood pressure has some effect lower, but still medicated.
On vegan I did lose 25 pounds but hit a plateau that just would not break. I even started adding weight. The doctor said eat less. Really? I am eating 1500 to 2000 calories a day now and literally starving all the time.
I decided to take matters into my own hands. I would eat less, but I would bring back in healthy fats, some healthy meats and cheeses. The majority of my food intact is veggies.
I eat ZERO wheat, wheat products, grains, sugar, sugar products, fruit. None, zip.
And while in fact, I am eating a little less, I am not hungry.
I have now lost 50 pounds. Cholesterol is normal and I am cutting back, hopefully completely on BP meds as it has gotten too low. I am far healthier now with the reintroduction of moderate amounts of healthy fat and some animal products than I was vegan. And remember, I am now not hungry and craving.
Grieger is disingenuous suggesting one size fits all as well as being EXTREMELY disingenuous picking out just one study at a time. I am disappointed in him as a long time viewer. But what the hell, why should he be any different than any of the others.
You can get better results by eating healthy fats from plants sources like SPROUTED nuts and seeds. Don't be fooled by the "quick weight loss" diets. No humans or animals were designed to lose that much weight that quickly....unless you were starving. Like the Dr. says.......keto weight loss is mostly water and lean muscle tissue loss. There's a reason why you NEVER see any world class athlete who's on keto. Keto...quick bandage that covers up the symptoms... but causes bigger health issues in the long run. I feel sad for all the fat people falling for the keto industry bullsh*t.
OK, I'm glad you found something that worked for you. However, keep in mind that this is anecdotal. The balance of scientific evidence is clear that meats and cheeses are not as healthy as whole-food plant-based nutritional alternatives for the great majority of people. This is especially the case if they follow sensible dietary guidelines.
There are 10 sources used in this video and many of them are analyses of multiple studies. When you claim that Dr Greger is picking one study at a time I think you're missing the wood for the trees. He's highlighting some interesting findings but this does not stray from the overall findings of these multiple studies.
Sounds to me like you're frustrated that this video does not chime with your confirmation biases and have jumped to conclusions to defend them.
Wyrd Knight sounds to me like you don’t understand cognitive dissonance. Because you suffer from it big time
@@Dsinatra3 Oh, please explain how I did that.
@@Dsinatra3 You sound unhinged. None of what you're saying is a legitimate rebuttal to what Greger says the _research says._
Good morning! For most of 2018 I was doing keto according to Dr. Wahls, then in 2019, I started moving towards plant-based high carb, low fat in a Dr. Swank/Dr. Esselstyn-like way. I noticed that I could lose body fat both ways, low carb, or low fat, especially combining IF with low carb and eating fewer daily meals due to the increase in satiety on high fat meals. I prefer high carb low fat, but felt an increase in the health symptoms I was addressing (which isn’t obesity, as I have never been obese anyways, but mostly within 170 to 190 lbs) so returned to keto and the benefits of ketones. Still wondering if you think there is any application for keto treating cancer, which you seem to completely disregard in the first video, citing that one example of ketones actually fuelling one type of cancer, which is surprising given what I have been hearing Dr. Seyfried, and others say. That should be investigated thoroughly for sure!
and he mentions that further investigation is being done but isn't done yet. Maybe you should rewatch the video if you missed that.
Also the BRAF V600E Genetic mutation allows cancer cells to use ketones to grow faster.
The mutation is present in 100% of hairy cell leukemias, 50% of melanomas, 10% of colon cancers, and 5% of multiple myelomas
You should look that up on pubmed for yourself.
StillTrustNo1 Bro, thanks for giving details about what I had no idea to even look up, smartie.
@@peterkuskis3825 ur welcome
This video will be good in 1972 promoting a low fat diet versus a low carbohydrate diet losing more weight on a low fat diet!
What are the dates of the studies that you're Trying to educate us with. Cherry picking articles from 1944 to 1995. There's much better research on the keto diet for weight loss then you're showing us.
My own study: N=1 Well formulated Keto Diet for 12 month:
-105 pounds in 12 months.
-Significantly high resting blood pressure went down to 125/80,
-fasting glucose down from weekly average of 140 to 98,
-triglycerides, LDL and HDL within normal parameters (improvement over baseline values).
-Improvement of Liver values
Psychologically: Never Hungry, fell energetic and motivated enough to hit the gym after 10 years.
So perhaps there is a significant disconnect between academia and real life. My story above has been reproduced by thousand others.
Or is there something else at play here? Perhaps a conspiracy? If we are all healthy all of a sudden, big Pharma would lose big bucks, and doctor office would have to shut down... maybe artificially sick people are an industry that needs to be kept alive? Cherry-picked and misinterpreted data to fool the public?
And perhaps the secret of the Keto diet is much more simple: Unless most "recommended" diets, the Keto diet is not calorie restrictive. People are not hungry. They don't feel constantly starved, cranky, and miserable. Hence, compliance is often high, and people stick with it.
At least that was the situation in my case. N=1
N=1 is not that statistically relevant, I hear you say? True. Yet, between 2003 and 2018 there were 62 RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED Trials, and ALL showed that a low carb, high fat diets are more successful in achieving weight loss, than high carb, low fat diets. You failed to bring this up in you "factual" video.
Finally, you do not look at the action of Insulin and its influence on weight gain and how reducing insulin can promote weight loss. How do you achieve reduced insulin levels? You guessed it: Low carb diet! Perhaps look at this: ruclips.net/video/LRHir1k9jmE/видео.html
I have a feeling dr Greger will never respond. He's not a scientist but a religious person that denies all the clearly observable facts
@@arhu74 then perhaps NutritionFacts.org should be renamed into NutritionReligion.org... cause if you don't know, you have to believe!
Sorry, but this is incorrect. For me, at least, low carb has been healthy.
Dr. Greger not afraid to dispel some myths
The myth of his own competence.
Vegans are so close-minded, it's sad.
Now time to explain this to my keto friends who keep wanting me to eat chicken.
Does anyone know what cancers can use ketones. I have heard not all cancers can be starved on a almost no carb diet.
I'd like Greger to explain to me how going low-carb (no longer Keto) means I no longer get hungry, can go 12 hours or more without even thinking about food, and can enjoy large portion sizes nor feel like I'm ever depriving myself.
This is coming from someone who loves food and habitually ate in excess of 3000 calories per day before going low carb.
It's an amazing way of eating to achieve satiation, but I doubt many of you sheep around here are interested in opening your minds and admitting that a different method can be beneficial for some.
I used to like dr greger until I realized he was the head of a vegan cult and only look at studies that back his world view. I have effectively lost weight and kept it off doing keto for years now. I’m not buying this video at all. I’ve done too much personal research to take advice who thinks veganism is our natural diet. When we can’t get all the nutrients we require from plants but can from animals.
pbpb253 -- is it possible that your previous diet was the typical industrialized diet with a lot of sugary drinks and bread? Simple carbohydrates cause an insulin spike and subsequent glucose drop which triggers hunger. Complex carbohydrates in whole foods are absorbed more slowly and, without that extreme insulin spike, they satiate for a longer time.
When I switched to a whole food plant based diet, I ate _more_ and still lost 16 pounds. Note that losing weight wasn't even a goal for me, it happened without any effort. I went from high healthy BMI (just below overweight) to right into the middle of the healthy BMI range.
And for @Dirty Sinatra, what nutrients _exactly_ are missing from a vegan diet? Answer, only one, B12. And the only reason that's missing is because only bacteria make B12 and our industrialized water systems, while eliminating harmful bacteria like cholera, also eliminate the helpful bacteria that previously supplied B12. Most cattle get B12 supplements either by injection or in their feed, because while being fattened up in feedlots they drink the same processed water we do. Vegans just eliminate the middle-cow and take our B12 directly.
Sure some nutrients, like zinc or selenium, can be an issue for vegans who can't tolerate or just don't like nuts and beans. Same with iron for women who menstruate and who don't eat sufficient beans and green leafy vegetables. But just because a vegan diet is insufficient for some picky eaters doesn't mean it's inherently missing any nutrients for the great majority.
And without sufficient vegetables where do you get your Folate (which was named after the produce it was first found in: foliage)? Or vitamin C? Or fiber? Or antioxidants? None of which are present in animal products.
Brad Hansen I was eating quite healthily there for a while, or what I thought was healthy.
Oats, fruit, greens, starchy Carbs, nuts, some seeds, lean animal protein, low oil consumption.
Ultimately, I don't believe the diet was satisfying enough, and I either consumed too many meals/calories, or would have too many binge periods.
Low Carb and significantly increasing Fats has worked effortlessly for me for well over a year now.
Of course, I pour over 100's of hours of YT videos and Podcasts on nutrition.
Certainly feel like I'm getting a handle on what works for me.
@@pbpb253 Did you eat enough calories? Healthy food is not satisfying if one undereats.
Brad Hansen what I despise about people like you the most is the fact that you just make leaping assumptions about people who have a differing opinion, view or approach. You assume that I eat a traditional American diet. Feed lot cattle and that I torture chickens and poke them full of antibiotics for some scrambled eggs. You assume that I haven’t followed dr greger since he started this channel. You assumed I haven’t lived off a plant based whole food diet for over 10 years. But what I bet you won’t say is What are the 2 most nutritionally dense foods for human consumption. I’ll give you a hint they’re not plant based and they contain every nutrient and vitamin the body requires for daily function. Stop making assumptions and do some real research. Dr greger can’t do all the heavy lifting for you.
It was only a 6day study - is that enough?
Heres what the author of the study had to say about this video. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
YAS YAS YAS
This is nonsense. If you eat the same number of calories you won't lose weight unless more of your calories come from fiber. Calories in- calories out, that's all that matters to weight loss. If you want to lose body fat over weight, you have to keep insulin to a minimum, and the only way to do that is to reduce carbohydrate intake.
Fat burns in a carbohydrate flame 🔥
that makes no sense but whatever. Heres what the author of the study had to say about this video. twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/1169630461087248390
After years of researching nutrition it is both obvious and logical to me that a whole food plant based diet is the optimal if following the daily dozen provided by Dr. Greger. I also believe that fasting is an amazing health promoting lifestyle and i would love to see Dr. Greger cover these many studies and bring us his professional insight
Intermittent fasting is much *much* harder to do on a vegan diet vs. keto diet. When you're fat adapted and your body runs on ketones, you can easily go long periods of time without eating. Whereas on a vegan diet with the blood sugar / insulin roller coaster, you feel the need to eat more frequently.
Brian Parsons Not ever being on the Keto side of things, you might be right in it being easier while fasting to a large extent if done properly since you’re keto adapted. I’d share some personal thoughts. Recently lost 30lbs over a little over a 2 1/2 month time frame eating a fully satiating whole food plant based diet and doing a 72hr water only fast at the beginning of each month. The experience varies widely from person to person, keto not withstanding. FWIW, first day of fast very mild hunger. 2nd day hunger came would come and go...normal I reckon. 3rd day no hunger.
so i guess the 171lbs i lost doing keto after being diagnosed with heart failure and dilated cardiomyopathy was not only bad for my heart, but my doctors were wrong. nice try! cherry pick some more. oh and by the way keto not only saved my life but i also don't need a heart transplant anymore! thanks to KETO
I’m Plant Based, but happy for you. Keep doing what works.
Let them have their cake! It’s okay.
That's amazing! I also lost a hundred pounds following a Keto Plan it does work for many people congrats on your health and Congrats on finding something that works for you! Keto works if you do it correctly people! 💯♥️
My colleagues said to me the other day “if I ate as many carbs as you do I’d be as big as a house and asleep at my desk”. I retorted, “I used to believe that too”. While they gain weight every year, I stay slim and fit. While they drink coffee all day to stay awake, I ride my bike to and from work. 10 miles round trip daily.