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Being that I am from a way more lazy generation I got tired as well . I have been redueing a 24 foot pontoon and that’s enough for me . 1/8 inch calcium scale is a bitch to get off I have been using a brush wheel .
Heh. Reminds me of when i was a teen. I was a sea scout, and the ship foundation got ahold of a 102 ft former navy torpedo retriever (going from a wood hulled 73 ft ww2 era sonar testing boat) and it was so much work. It took an entire summer of the whole crew caravaning down to socal (naval base ventura county) from the bay area to get it seaworthy enough to make it to santa barbara to the place we got it drydocked and the hill cleaned + new zinc. I was able to make that cruise, but we had to abort the first attempt up the rest of the coast to the san francisco bay area because *_somehow_* water got in our fuel tanks, and we lost all power off the coast and had to get towed back into port by the coast guard. We got her done eventually!
Both of you are just unbelievable in your determination, honesty and editing each and every episode. To say thanks is an injustice. To admire your individual concerns, likes and friendship is most appropriate. So - let us ALL get to work, together, and assemble a sailing ship.
The space will look even better when you apply a rust converter solution and finally paint it a light color. The repairs to the frames can be made easily now and will ensure a strong hull for all of your renovations. I'm surprised you don't have more followers as this channel is rather unique in many ways. Thanks for all of your efforts to produce these videos.
Thank you! We've planned to use a product called FLUID FILM and PERMA SHIELD. Both are based on sheep wool fat. A soft coating has many benefits on a riveted hull. The only downside is that it's not as pretty as a hull coated with paint. But with a rust converter you wouldn't reach all of the rust.
I agree that they are good rust inhibiting films. Beware of odors from films in confined spaces and you may need several applications for complete protection. The films aren't pretty but maintenance is greatly simplified. From my research they instantly stop the progression of the rusting process and should work like magic.
Since this product is made from wool fat the odor shouldn't be that bad. Let's hope... A soft grease based coating is what they've used 73 years ago when building the ship. And assuming that it never was re done the hull still looks good. Another option would be OVATROL but that's way more expensive and really the only benefit would be that it would be possible to use paint above it. So yes it's prettier. PERMA SHIELD is also available in aluminium color so let's hope that will do the trick. By the way we're not sponsored by this brand.
If you are fitting out the interior no-one will ever see the hull. Painting would look nice but still need maintenance down the road. The more we talk about it I think you are on the right track with the fluid film approach. My only other concern would be the fire hazard if the film were to be exposed to flame. That and any toxic smoke caused by its burning. I know some marine authorities are very sensitive to novel solutions on "passenger ships"
@@FlyingConeyThat Fluid Film is like hand cream! Much nicer that many of the products I've worked with. I would have thought that it could go over the rust converter, though.
My GOD ! I thought I would never see such insane content. But here I am, amazed and speechless. I take off the greatest hat I can possibly find. GOOD LUCK!
I love what you all are doing to that beautiful old ocean-going vessel. She deserves a second chance she's part of history. When you all bought her, she was on life support and dying quickly. And as someone who was raised in the Honduran Bay islands, it does my heart good to see what you all are doing, every repeat.
I think the way we're doing it is probably the only way of rescuing this type of ship. If you hire out the labor a refit would cost millions. But you wouldn't refit such a ship if you have millions in the first place. But it gives us the opportunity to save a boat that never was the star of the fleet. But she somehow managed to not get scraped at least 5 times. She has a great hull and step by step she will become our dream boat.
I'm with the commenter from a few weeks ago; y'all are insane, and I really REALLY want you to succeed as this project. Take care of that little lady, and she'll take care of you. Best wishes and good luck!
We found out two things within the last week. First is that she really was a very beautiful, fast, capable sailing ship. She even had a fully square rigged forward mast. But we're still in the phase were we realize how much work it will be to bring her back to former glory.
This video took me back to when I worked for a company that built and repaired large commercial and military ships. You guys definitely ended up with a much larger project than you thought. I am glad to see you kept it and still plan on rebuilding it.
Wonderful recap and update. The interior spaces looks massive now and you have so much area to work with when deciding how to lay it out. I'm enjoying the journey with you as you move forward in the refit. Thank you for letting us follow along.
At the moment we're really busy. But we hope later this year we have the time to draw a plan and show you what we imagine for the interior. We really enjoy making this videos, especially this story driven ones. Let's hope RUclips picks it up.
A old ship, A restoration project and a good cause and amazing mustache 10/10 would join you for a voyager any day, currently studying to be a ships engineer loved the video!
Thank you again! Your donation put a huge smile on our face and it makes it so much easier to edit the new video. It will be about how much money it is to run the boat. All the best!
10:30 I wonder if a rust removing laser machine would have worked well, I mean, they seem to be so fast and efficient, and for a vast surface like that it may have been ideal.
For us it was very interesting to see how much we have changed during this first year of refining Flying Coney. How we approach things. And of course how effective this multi head screwdriver aka multitool aka crowbar got over the time.
@@FlyingConey A lot of work, the good thing seems to be the saving part, you both have got the ship more than half way there in a short time, it's looking great & plenty of material to cling on to, a massive job some people would have walked away from, so glad you two are so strong minded, it will become a massive reward for all your hard work.
Hello to both of you, what is fascinating is to see the colossal work that you have undertaken to save this sailboat... magnificent courage that it took for both of you not to give up... indeed it there is something to be said for seeing the rusty prop on the entire hull... we can only wish you the best, and congratulations again for not having given up... you can be very proud later to have repaired and completely rebuilt this boat just with your efforts...good luck for the future and courage...!!
You seem to have a good strong boat there, despite all the rust and pitting. A friend delivered a steel schooner from Florida to the Uk--and the boatyard sandblasted through the hull in a number of spots! You are fortunate!
First of all thank you and our hull is relatively strong. But blasting through a few spots while sandblasting isn't necessarily a big deal. Especially oder steel isn't that homogen as modern ones. So if a pitting meets an imperfection and one of those rusty spots you punch through. But the important thing is leaks like that develop over time, it starts wearing first and you have to haul out. Also you can fix almost everything on a steel hull and it really depends on the overall condition of the whole ship.
Best wishes on your sailboat recreation challenge! I'm genuinely happy for you. I'll be eagerly following the upcoming episodes of your adventure all the way from Brazil.
We all need to subscribe here to help this couple keep their channel and big project going. This is an amazing undertaking that could take years. Amazingly, that is runs? This is a magnificent ship that will need a total rebuild. God help them.
You two are doing a brilliant job! More well-restored sail-training ships are needed and you are doing your utmost to take your well-deserved place in this market. I wish you strength, enthusiasm, good health and high spirits for 2024 and a long, busy life for Flying Coney.
PS: At 4:37 you can see Barbara doing some navigational tasks. Do you like navigation? I do as I find it fascinating what you can learn about our planet with this skill, how things work. The moon and the sun play important rules, too!
The size and the amount of work that goes into each and every task surprises us every time. Last week we put new primer on the wheelhouse roof (small spoiler) Well, how long can it take? One hour? Two hours? I painted 6 hours 🤪 That's the reason why this video was uploaded a little bit later than usual.
Superb précis in every respect, one of my favourite episodes since the beginning. What a monumental undertaking and mind blowing journey it has been……..so far! I admire your calm and methodical approach to all the problems no matter how major they are. What an inspiration the two of you are. All the very best for the next chapter.
Incredible work guys. I enjoy watching your journey and very hard work. After seeing the open plan area, it's going to be epic once finished. And I believe you both have what it will take to bring her back. Good luck and thank you for all your videos👍
Fabulous! This so qualifies for our #onemiilionboater pledge to change one thing which helps reduce ocean pollution! Repair, restore, recycle. Keeps a boat out of the landfill. Kudos!
Hope that in the next video you'll sandblast the whole hull inside and out. This is the fastes and the most efficient way to strip a hull from its paint rust and dust : from there you can make a ful restauration that will last for another generation. A lot of work before you, so don't be shy : do it entirely. I sinceely wish you best of luck.
Hi Vincent, of course we've considered sandblasting because it's a very effective way of removing rust from a steel hull. It is however not really suitable for a riveted steel hull and that's where the fun begins. We might try out laser rust removal or hydrojet blasting. Both methods could work but are relatively new. So far we worked with a Tercoo rotating blaster and the result is quite good.
@@FlyingConey Well, good luck! Naturally you know better as you are on the job. Thank you for responding so quickly. Great project anyway, Best wishes.
If I was 50 years younger I would have loved to helped but being 73 I can only watch keep up the good work as I will be watching your journey I just noticed we were both born the same year
This is truly an amazing accomplishment! I am a broker in the Caribbean (trying to sell my first steel boat) I am curious as to whether you hired your own surveyor before purchase or not? You are someone I would really enjoy chatting with so I can learn more about steel boats! I've learnt a few things in this episode already! I had the pleasure/demise of doing a refit of the hull of my friends Meta Damien 50 (steel) not to long ago. It is such a hard job, only for the tough people who wont quit. You have my respect!
After over a decade at sea on various bluewater ships and vessels, I can honestly say that internal hull cladding gives me the heebie jeebies every time I see it. Paint is by far the quickest and easiest way to see damage early - especially white paint (rust and mould shows up strong on white paint). It blisters far earlier than any penetrating damage occurs (it blisters with increased moisture between the paint layers and the hull plate, or in bad cases, due to corrosion on the hull plate itself). That's why it's used so extensively in many naval and merchant fleets world wide. The other option I often see that is good is the use of insulated panelling - so when the hull surveyors come onboard, it's simply a case of removing an entire panel (such as a cupboard backing) to see the hull on the other side, no demolition necessary. So pitting and corrosion can be tackled in their very early stages, far before whole hull plates need replacing.
We will blast the hull and apply paint. We've not decided about insulation but probably insulation on removable panels is the way to go. The cork insulation together with more than 10 years neglect turned out to be a huge problem but it has to be said, nothing that can't be repaired.
@@FlyingConey a wise move! And yes, steel is a great material to work with long term - easy to repair, easy to replace, just needs a little regular TLC, although a lot less than wooden hulls, it must be said! I've seen some pretty busted up hulls limping into port with chocks keeping them afloat, only to sail away a few weeks later good as new! Great material, steel.
It's great how many found our channel through this video. It was underperforming for a few months and since we put a lot of effort into this particular video that wasn't easy. Suddenly it got picked by the algorithm and now there's just one more thing to say: Welcome aboard Rohan!
Amazing video, I can’t believe your guises perseverance for taking on such a huge project. I don’t know if you’ve seen a RUclips channel by the name of Sampson Boat Co., but you remind me of them.
Thank you! The problem is we don't get new people on the channel anymore. It went from 1400 subscriber a month down to 300. The real time updates we posted before completely underperformed. But ripping out the last bit of insulation and the cabin sole and cleaning everything to the point you've seen in the video took us 6 days so there was new content in this video. We just wanted to give you a start to finish experience.
Wow spectacular job Brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise and for taking us on your adventures. Hello from romulus Michigan USA I am a new subscriber I can't wait to see all of your videos and progress
You two can do it! Only look forward and think of the finished job which will be fantastic. I have built and rebuilt many boats over the years and attitude is what takes for you get through the hard parts. Rome was not built in a day !!
WOW, now the future will be very interesting. I wish you very good times with this project. And I have to say that you are making very good videos that are very interesting to watch. Thank you for sharing this project with us. (sorry my English, I am from Finland and I do not use Google translator)
You know there is a special air tool for rust/paint removal? Its a tool with multiple needles who create a kind of sandblast effect. Hope it helps!! Cheers
Thanks! Yes, a needle scaler. Fun fact, we do have one that came with the boat. But for big scales of rust there's nothing better than the air chisel. Also the needles can push the rust into the steel and over time you get this old steel look you see at our boat above the waterline.
I'm looking forward to you sailing into the Great Lakes in the U.S. To Duluth Minnesota so i may tour your vessel and meeting you both if your planning on this type of trip !
We do want to make a circumnavigation once we're finished with the refit. One benefit of a sailing ship is that you can make longer passages and we really really want to go sailing again
Once the frames are welded we will use a wool fat based coating called FLUID FILM it's also used for ballast water tanks and undercoating for old-timers. It's great against rust.
WOW😅...that dwarfs the projects on my 38 ft sailboat (=house)😊. But a wonderful dream and vision for this old lady. And it will succeed!!!👍💪💪👊 I will follow it with great interest!!! Und... Segle mit dem Wind von heute!!! Denn der Wind von gestern wird dich nicht weiterbringen.... Und der Wind von morgen bleibt vielleicht aus.... Also segle mit dem Wind von heute!!!
@@FlyingConey Nice plan. Hit me up if you ever find yourselves near Cape Cod. My family and I would love to come aboard for a sailing cruise on a giant old boat.
So even if the hull is thick enough, can you really trust it? isn't it possible that the rust problem is so extensive that the hull might be breached anyway?
There are standards how a vessel should be surveyed and based on those standards out boat is considered safe. We're talking about more than 6mm steel. That's heavy and secure. Think about a big 3kg hammer and now bang it against the hull of any fiberglass yacht there is. What do you think the owner would say? This is exactly how our boat was surveyed to find the thinest spots, then the thinest spots on each plate are measured.
The stringer you mean? Yes this will be repaired but it has been examined by a professional surveyor. This needs to be done but not a reason the be frightened.
That's not the case. We've seen the pictures and it's an official hull report from a classification society. Also the steel thickness is still fine. But the previous owner has redone the electrics and he screwed up. On the other hand the damage itself was huge but the biggest problem was that the insulation needed to be removed in order to fix it. Good thing is that you can fix things like that with a steel hull. It's finde now.
Always longer than expected. But it's about 2-3 years if we have the funds to be constantly working on the boat like we do now. So it really depends on if we manage to make a living from YT or not. I really how we can because I love making these videos and sharing the whole story with you guys.
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From whom do you buy "abandoned" ships?
i think your very brave taking on a project like that , the rust inside the hull was frightening but good luck
You’re completely nuts, and the world would be a sad poor place without the likes of you! Very best wishes with your project!
Thank you very much and welcome aboard Flying Coney!
I'm 78 and I got tired just watching all the work in the video!
Me too! I'm 76 and I've done all that--and it is exhausting to watch!
Being that I am from a way more lazy generation I got tired as well . I have been redueing a 24 foot pontoon and that’s enough for me . 1/8 inch calcium scale is a bitch to get off I have been using a brush wheel .
I am 79 and these good RUclips channels make my life more enjoyable.
Heh. Reminds me of when i was a teen. I was a sea scout, and the ship foundation got ahold of a 102 ft former navy torpedo retriever (going from a wood hulled 73 ft ww2 era sonar testing boat) and it was so much work. It took an entire summer of the whole crew caravaning down to socal (naval base ventura county) from the bay area to get it seaworthy enough to make it to santa barbara to the place we got it drydocked and the hill cleaned + new zinc. I was able to make that cruise, but we had to abort the first attempt up the rest of the coast to the san francisco bay area because *_somehow_* water got in our fuel tanks, and we lost all power off the coast and had to get towed back into port by the coast guard. We got her done eventually!
Both of you are just unbelievable in your determination, honesty and editing each and every episode. To say thanks is an injustice. To admire
your individual concerns, likes and friendship is most appropriate. So - let us ALL get to work, together, and assemble a sailing ship.
You two are genuine 100% heroes. Well done.
Thank you! We hope you've enjoyed the new video format.
@@FlyingConey yes. Very much.
The space will look even better when you apply a rust converter solution and finally paint it a light color. The repairs to the frames can be made easily now and will ensure a strong hull for all of your renovations. I'm surprised you don't have more followers as this channel is rather unique in many ways. Thanks for all of your efforts to produce these videos.
Thank you! We've planned to use a product called FLUID FILM and PERMA SHIELD. Both are based on sheep wool fat. A soft coating has many benefits on a riveted hull. The only downside is that it's not as pretty as a hull coated with paint. But with a rust converter you wouldn't reach all of the rust.
I agree that they are good rust inhibiting films. Beware of odors from films in confined spaces and you may need several applications for complete protection. The films aren't pretty but maintenance is greatly simplified. From my research they instantly stop the progression of the rusting process and should work like magic.
Since this product is made from wool fat the odor shouldn't be that bad. Let's hope... A soft grease based coating is what they've used 73 years ago when building the ship. And assuming that it never was re done the hull still looks good. Another option would be OVATROL but that's way more expensive and really the only benefit would be that it would be possible to use paint above it. So yes it's prettier. PERMA SHIELD is also available in aluminium color so let's hope that will do the trick. By the way we're not sponsored by this brand.
If you are fitting out the interior no-one will ever see the hull. Painting would look nice but still need maintenance down the road. The more we talk about it I think you are on the right track with the fluid film approach. My only other concern would be the fire hazard if the film were to be exposed to flame. That and any toxic smoke caused by its burning. I know some marine authorities are very sensitive to novel solutions on "passenger ships"
@@FlyingConeyThat Fluid Film is like hand cream! Much nicer that many of the products I've worked with. I would have thought that it could go over the rust converter, though.
My GOD ! I thought I would never see such insane content. But here I am, amazed and speechless. I take off the greatest hat I can possibly find. GOOD LUCK!
What a lovely comment! Thank you very very much and welcome aboard ⛵
I have seen every video from the start, but this overview is *really* excellent, tying it all together. Kudos for putting this one together. 👍👍👍👍
I love what you all are doing to that beautiful old ocean-going vessel. She deserves a second chance she's part of history. When you all bought her, she was on life support and dying quickly. And as someone who was raised in the Honduran Bay islands, it does my heart good to see what you all are doing, every repeat.
I think the way we're doing it is probably the only way of rescuing this type of ship. If you hire out the labor a refit would cost millions. But you wouldn't refit such a ship if you have millions in the first place. But it gives us the opportunity to save a boat that never was the star of the fleet. But she somehow managed to not get scraped at least 5 times. She has a great hull and step by step she will become our dream boat.
I'm with the commenter from a few weeks ago; y'all are insane, and I really REALLY want you to succeed as this project. Take care of that little lady, and she'll take care of you. Best wishes and good luck!
We found out two things within the last week. First is that she really was a very beautiful, fast, capable sailing ship. She even had a fully square rigged forward mast. But we're still in the phase were we realize how much work it will be to bring her back to former glory.
Happy u guys haven't given up and are doing a proper refit / build.
We do our best to rescue this old lady!
This was a wonderful recap. Thank you for your hard work.
This video took me back to when I worked for a company that built and repaired large commercial and military ships. You guys definitely ended up with a much larger project than you thought. I am glad to see you kept it and still plan on rebuilding it.
Wonderful recap and update. The interior spaces looks massive now and you have so much area to work with when deciding how to lay it out. I'm enjoying the journey with you as you move forward in the refit. Thank you for letting us follow along.
At the moment we're really busy. But we hope later this year we have the time to draw a plan and show you what we imagine for the interior. We really enjoy making this videos, especially this story driven ones. Let's hope RUclips picks it up.
I really enjoy your enthusiasm and perseverance ! Thank you !
A old ship, A restoration project and a good cause and amazing mustache 10/10 would join you for a voyager any day, currently studying to be a ships engineer loved the video!
Bedankt
Thank you again! Your donation put a huge smile on our face and it makes it so much easier to edit the new video. It will be about how much money it is to run the boat. All the best!
I’m an ex trawlerman, and I wish u the very best of luck. She will look amazing when fully under sail 👍✌️🇬🇧
10:30 I wonder if a rust removing laser machine would have worked well, I mean, they seem to be so fast and efficient, and for a vast surface like that it may have been ideal.
We might try it out!
Great to see all the progress we watched over the months, look forward to this old girl becoming a beauty.
For us it was very interesting to see how much we have changed during this first year of refining Flying Coney. How we approach things. And of course how effective this multi head screwdriver aka multitool aka crowbar got over the time.
@@FlyingConey A lot of work, the good thing seems to be the saving part, you both have got the ship more than half way there in a short time, it's looking great & plenty of material to cling on to, a massive job some people would have walked away from, so glad you two are so strong minded, it will become a massive reward for all your hard work.
Hello to both of you, what is fascinating is to see the colossal work that you have undertaken to save this sailboat... magnificent courage that it took for both of you not to give up... indeed it there is something to be said for seeing the rusty prop on the entire hull... we can only wish you the best, and congratulations again for not having given up... you can be very proud later to have repaired and completely rebuilt this boat just with your efforts...good luck for the future and courage...!!
You seem to have a good strong boat there, despite all the rust and pitting. A friend delivered a steel schooner from Florida to the Uk--and the boatyard sandblasted through the hull in a number of spots! You are fortunate!
First of all thank you and our hull is relatively strong. But blasting through a few spots while sandblasting isn't necessarily a big deal. Especially oder steel isn't that homogen as modern ones. So if a pitting meets an imperfection and one of those rusty spots you punch through. But the important thing is leaks like that develop over time, it starts wearing first and you have to haul out. Also you can fix almost everything on a steel hull and it really depends on the overall condition of the whole ship.
Best wishes on your sailboat recreation challenge! I'm genuinely happy for you. I'll be eagerly following the upcoming episodes of your adventure all the way from Brazil.
We all need to subscribe here to help this couple keep their channel and big project going.
This is an amazing undertaking that could take years. Amazingly, that is runs?
This is a magnificent ship that will need a total rebuild. God help them.
You two are doing a brilliant job! More well-restored sail-training ships are needed and you are doing your utmost to take your well-deserved place in this market. I wish you strength, enthusiasm, good health and high spirits for 2024 and a long, busy life for Flying Coney.
Nice, I often walked past this ship in Urk, but never knew what was happening on board.
I wish you all the best with the project!
PS: At 4:37 you can see Barbara doing some navigational tasks. Do you like navigation? I do as I find it fascinating what you can learn about our planet with this skill, how things work. The moon and the sun play important rules, too!
You guys are amazing. The large task to take on but you’re gonna have a beautiful home when your done.
The size and the amount of work that goes into each and every task surprises us every time. Last week we put new primer on the wheelhouse roof (small spoiler) Well, how long can it take? One hour? Two hours? I painted 6 hours 🤪 That's the reason why this video was uploaded a little bit later than usual.
Great summary of all your hard work to date!!
Well done guys! took me 3 years to restore my Columbia 36, but got there in the end!
I really like the tempo of this video, think you found your story rhythm.
Superb précis in every respect, one of my favourite episodes since the beginning. What a monumental undertaking and mind blowing journey it has been……..so far! I admire your calm and methodical approach to all the problems no matter how major they are. What an inspiration the two of you are. All the very best for the next chapter.
Amazingly done! I can’t wait to see how you rebuild her!
Thanks for your lovely comment!
Incredible work guys. I enjoy watching your journey and very hard work. After seeing the open plan area, it's going to be epic once finished. And I believe you both have what it will take to bring her back. Good luck and thank you for all your videos👍
This is your best video EVER! I can't wait to see what happens next.
Yay! Thank you! 👍 It means a lot since we really put a lot of effort into this particular video.
Fabulous! This so qualifies for our #onemiilionboater pledge to change one thing which helps reduce ocean pollution! Repair, restore, recycle. Keeps a boat out of the landfill. Kudos!
Congratulations on your first year together with the boat!
Your ship is beautiful! She looks very comfortable.
Hope that in the next video you'll sandblast the whole hull inside and out.
This is the fastes and the most efficient way to strip a hull from its paint rust and dust : from there you can make a ful restauration that will last for another generation.
A lot of work before you, so don't be shy : do it entirely.
I sinceely wish you best of luck.
Hi Vincent, of course we've considered sandblasting because it's a very effective way of removing rust from a steel hull. It is however not really suitable for a riveted steel hull and that's where the fun begins. We might try out laser rust removal or hydrojet blasting. Both methods could work but are relatively new. So far we worked with a Tercoo rotating blaster and the result is quite good.
@@FlyingConey
Well, good luck! Naturally you know better as you are on the job.
Thank you for responding so quickly.
Great project anyway,
Best wishes.
If I was 50 years younger I would have loved to helped but being 73 I can only watch keep up the good work as I will be watching your journey I just noticed we were both born the same year
Wonderful saving her… but wow that’s a lot of work!
Most people think the money is the biggest problem. But it's getting enough time to get the work done. It doesn't help that we also make videos.
Are you out of your minds?! How wonderful!
This is truly an amazing accomplishment! I am a broker in the Caribbean (trying to sell my first steel boat) I am curious as to whether you hired your own surveyor before purchase or not? You are someone I would really enjoy chatting with so I can learn more about steel boats! I've learnt a few things in this episode already! I had the pleasure/demise of doing a refit of the hull of my friends Meta Damien 50 (steel) not to long ago. It is such a hard job, only for the tough people who wont quit. You have my respect!
good luck guys looking forward to seeing how all this 'plays' out..
Great job guys!
To get rid of the rest of the rust on the interior, you could get a sand blaster, then follow up with some protective coating.
You shouldn't sand blast a riveted hull.
After over a decade at sea on various bluewater ships and vessels, I can honestly say that internal hull cladding gives me the heebie jeebies every time I see it. Paint is by far the quickest and easiest way to see damage early - especially white paint (rust and mould shows up strong on white paint). It blisters far earlier than any penetrating damage occurs (it blisters with increased moisture between the paint layers and the hull plate, or in bad cases, due to corrosion on the hull plate itself). That's why it's used so extensively in many naval and merchant fleets world wide. The other option I often see that is good is the use of insulated panelling - so when the hull surveyors come onboard, it's simply a case of removing an entire panel (such as a cupboard backing) to see the hull on the other side, no demolition necessary. So pitting and corrosion can be tackled in their very early stages, far before whole hull plates need replacing.
We will blast the hull and apply paint. We've not decided about insulation but probably insulation on removable panels is the way to go. The cork insulation together with more than 10 years neglect turned out to be a huge problem but it has to be said, nothing that can't be repaired.
@@FlyingConey a wise move! And yes, steel is a great material to work with long term - easy to repair, easy to replace, just needs a little regular TLC, although a lot less than wooden hulls, it must be said! I've seen some pretty busted up hulls limping into port with chocks keeping them afloat, only to sail away a few weeks later good as new! Great material, steel.
You have a blanc canva to start creating what you are aming for! Well done and good luck!
With boats, the hull is the first to go. With houses, the foundation and the roof are the first priority.
Interesting first video(for myself), it's certainly a huge project so best of luck to you both!
It's great how many found our channel through this video. It was underperforming for a few months and since we put a lot of effort into this particular video that wasn't easy. Suddenly it got picked by the algorithm and now there's just one more thing to say: Welcome aboard Rohan!
Amazing video, I can’t believe your guises perseverance for taking on such a huge project. I don’t know if you’ve seen a RUclips channel by the name of Sampson Boat Co., but you remind me of them.
Thank you for saying that. Leo Sampson Goolden inspired us to share the story on RUclips. Great channel!
My dream boat
Thank you very much!
I am looking forward to new adventures. I have seen all the videos from the beginning and still appreciated the review episode.
Thank you! The problem is we don't get new people on the channel anymore. It went from 1400 subscriber a month down to 300. The real time updates we posted before completely underperformed. But ripping out the last bit of insulation and the cabin sole and cleaning everything to the point you've seen in the video took us 6 days so there was new content in this video. We just wanted to give you a start to finish experience.
Bravi ragazzi! Ottimo lavoro, complimenti 🎉
Cool video! My condolences for the fact that you had to visit Urk. ;)
Wow spectacular job Brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise and for taking us on your adventures. Hello from romulus Michigan USA I am a new subscriber I can't wait to see all of your videos and progress
Sooooooooo looking forward to the next one !
You have my sympathy. I have had to deal with internal rust myself. But not on a boat that big. Terrible job, never seems to end.
You two can do it! Only look forward and think of the finished job which will be fantastic.
I have built and rebuilt many boats over the years and attitude is what takes for you get through the hard parts.
Rome was not built in a day !!
Excellent video. Thank you for posting it. ❤
Great job! Please make entrance to the hull accessibele when reconstructing the interior
WOW, now the future will be very interesting. I wish you very good times with this project. And I have to say that you are making very good videos that are very interesting to watch. Thank you for sharing this project with us. (sorry my English, I am from Finland and I do not use Google translator)
Love your enthusiasm for a total re-fit.😂😂😂.
14:15 The Goëtheborg Tshirt!
A salute from a l'Hermione topman!
You know there is a special air tool for rust/paint removal? Its a tool with multiple needles who create a kind of sandblast effect.
Hope it helps!!
Cheers
Thanks! Yes, a needle scaler. Fun fact, we do have one that came with the boat. But for big scales of rust there's nothing better than the air chisel. Also the needles can push the rust into the steel and over time you get this old steel look you see at our boat above the waterline.
Fantastic job 👏 keep going guys
I'm looking forward to you sailing into the Great Lakes in the U.S. To Duluth Minnesota so i may tour your vessel and meeting you both if your planning on this type of trip !
We do want to make a circumnavigation once we're finished with the refit. One benefit of a sailing ship is that you can make longer passages and we really really want to go sailing again
Wonderful video ! Impressive work !
Fabulous work well done
wow!!!!! dedication!!!!!
thank you for the perfect summary ❤
Just subscribed - fabulous journey you are on!!
This is going to be epic once done...
Lovely boat enjoy
Will you be painting the interior of the hull with rust preventative paint ? Looks great
Once the frames are welded we will use a wool fat based coating called FLUID FILM it's also used for ballast water tanks and undercoating for old-timers. It's great against rust.
Good luck to you follow your dreams
Big boat no bow thrusters all skills and deft hands
@8:40
is that at the docks of Luijt in Den Oever?
Yes it is. Do you anything about it?
@@FlyingConey living very near to it.
it the old drydock they had.
it's been replaced by a new one a few years ago.
but the old one had more charm
Awesome recap guys.. Love it 😀 ❤
WOW😅...that dwarfs the projects on my 38 ft sailboat (=house)😊. But a wonderful dream and vision for this old lady. And it will succeed!!!👍💪💪👊 I will follow it with great interest!!! Und...
Segle mit dem Wind von heute!!!
Denn der Wind von gestern wird dich nicht weiterbringen....
Und der Wind von morgen bleibt vielleicht aus....
Also segle mit dem Wind von heute!!!
You guys are gonna have plenty of room for all the crew you'll need to sail that behemoth.
Or for a bowling alley... No we've a 12 guests + 3 crew configuration in mind. Real sail training and bunks in the foreship.
@@FlyingConey Nice plan. Hit me up if you ever find yourselves near Cape Cod. My family and I would love to come aboard for a sailing cruise on a giant old boat.
Are you planning to use a naval architect for elements of the refit?
I wish you well with your next endeavors with flying coney I'm sure when you finish her she will be better than before
Thank you very much!
Nice, you are on the same warf as we in december '22.
Hoekman
We are owners of another fishing vessel, TX51 Twei Woiven sr..
So even if the hull is thick enough, can you really trust it? isn't it possible that the rust problem is so extensive that the hull might be breached anyway?
There are standards how a vessel should be surveyed and based on those standards out boat is considered safe. We're talking about more than 6mm steel. That's heavy and secure. Think about a big 3kg hammer and now bang it against the hull of any fiberglass yacht there is. What do you think the owner would say? This is exactly how our boat was surveyed to find the thinest spots, then the thinest spots on each plate are measured.
@@FlyingConey Thanks for your answer! be safe and good luck with the project!
As a ship surveyor the rust holes at 14:29 frighten me
The stringer you mean? Yes this will be repaired but it has been examined by a professional surveyor. This needs to be done but not a reason the be frightened.
Genuinely dont think there is much more satisfying than using a needle gun on rust.
this is something ive wanted to do now for years! ive been looking for the perfect ship. :p
corosion can also acure wiht just water and time
This amount of corrosion can't be caused by water in four years. Especially not in fresh water.
curious to know total cost at the end plus initial purchase price
You guys are amazing. Best wishes.
Thank you very very much!
Smart decision to take to a shipyard. Great job folks.
good job
Great summary of the work to date. Will you be using some rust-proofing paint or pitch on the inside of the boat's hull?
We will probably use a wool fat based fluid coating. Well proven in ballast tanks.
Very nice.
Great job
I got a feeling the prepurchase hull report was askew.
That's not the case. We've seen the pictures and it's an official hull report from a classification society. Also the steel thickness is still fine. But the previous owner has redone the electrics and he screwed up. On the other hand the damage itself was huge but the biggest problem was that the insulation needed to be removed in order to fix it. Good thing is that you can fix things like that with a steel hull. It's finde now.
The first 14 minutes were really depressing. The last minute saved it. Ahhh .. . life.... afloat.
Amazing.
I wonder, do you have a target date for the entire project to be completed? Or to you have target dates for the different sections?
Always longer than expected. But it's about 2-3 years if we have the funds to be constantly working on the boat like we do now. So it really depends on if we manage to make a living from YT or not. I really how we can because I love making these videos and sharing the whole story with you guys.