How Putin lost Russia's Arctic dominance to China and Baltic NATO forces | Superpowers
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Russia is increasingly losing its dominance over the Arctic as Putin diverts funding and manpower to the war in Ukraine, Defence Editor of the Evening Standard Robert Fox and Brigadier General Pekka Toveri tell James Heappey on Superpowers.
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kinda nuts how Russia has sent the Best of their Arctic Forces to be butchered in Ukraine over the last 2 Winters and are now trying to fill the gap with Conscripts and Cold War Weapons.
US, Norway, Sweden, Canada, Finland, Sweden, and Denmark all need to be working on a joint project to build a fleet of super breakers and arctic bases. Like now...
Another nail in Putins coffin
Another nail ?? You mean another bucket of nails !!
Except that it's 100% nonsense.
Please turn down the volume for the intense action movie score. Very distracting
We have heard lots of ex military personels in the past it is nice to see that former intelegence commander of the Finnish miltary inteligence officer P Toveri is also heard. Since Finland has been the root to the western powers for past 80 years
The future Han- Muscovite wars will be around water resources and the reclaiming of Outer Manchuria to settle the last standing unequal treaty.
China has ALREADY declared part of Mongol - Moscow empire as its territory on new official maps China's state-owned Standard Map Service has presented a set of geographic maps for 2023, on which for the first time part of Moscow's territory is indicated as part of China. It is about the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island on the Amur River.
Didn't 1815 teach you a lesson ukra bandera bot? Go consume your meds.
They r frienimies
Trying to assert geopolitical/economic dominance over the arctic for resource exploitation is just another nail in the coffin of civilization. Our epitaph will be short and bitter -
THERE WAS MONEY TO BE MADE
Follow the pied pipers of money🏦💶💴💵💷💰
Sure, we destroyed the planet...but for a beautiful moment in time, we had fantastic returns for shareholders!
Resource exploitation has been the driving force of everything humans have ever done.
Thank you Times Radio, this is interesting. Russia’s specialist Arctic Troops and equipment have been destroyed in Ukraine. The fact they were even sent to Ukraine is a sign of desperation. What a waste of Russian and Ukrainian lives, on one man’s hubris.
Well said 👍
I've sat off Murmansk in an SSBN for weeks - they never dominated the arctic.
Putin our obedient dog 🇨🇳 💪
I love the Finns.
With an economy that is ranked 11th in the world ( about the size of Italy ) and a population that is shrinking ( and its life expectancy declining ! ), how is it possible for Russia to accomplish its goals ?
The population isn't shrinking and our measures of the size of an economy seem to be pretty useless.
@@Withnail1969the population is exploding.
@@Withnail1969 Yes Recruiting a lot of 3rd world. Will be nice to see a mayor of Moscow of Somali descent in 20 years to represent the majority of the city's population and minarets built around the al Basil mosque in Red Square
@@DanW-nk7sn I'm not sure what you're babbling about. The ethnic mix of Russia is not something I agonise over. I'm simply stating that contrary to the misinformed poster's claim, Russia's population is not shrinking.
@@Withnail1969- in more tranquil times Putin mentioned Russia's demography as an ongoing problem, one that needed to be urgently addressed.
That said, I admit that the man has sometimes acted on bad information - so he may had had no idea of what he was talking about.
👍🏻 well done and thanks for inviting Pekka T. he has a wast knowledge in the area.
Hardly a word about Canada?
Yeah! Okay then! Canadians happen to LIVE there too……I don’t think that they can keep the CANADIANS out either.
Well, that's normal. 😝
Because there's nothing to say about Canada. And I say this as a Canadian.
Heartbreaking viewpoint, Stephane. If I can yet love the US, warts and all, you should be able to love Canada, your fellows and her history. We are not defined by the least of us, nor are we the cause of them.@@TheStephaneAdam
@@jamesjacocks6221 Like many Canadians, it's more a position of disapointment than disdain. I do love Canada but let's be honest, if there's a race for the Arctic we're just not there. Or any race of any kind really.
It's a nice country with great people... But we tend to settle for mediocrity way too often.
Where is Canada Artic defense?
Spelled defence, don’t worry the minister of defence in Canada can’t spell it either
@@grahamhufton7715In American English, it's spelled defense. There are many differences in spellings.
Wait, how did penguins get into the Arctic? 19:18, penguins!
LOL the pitfalls of stock footage.
Arctic should be a nature reserve. No fishing. No oil or gas. And no Russians.
You forgot Norway as a stakeholder in Antarctica. Also, it seems like some of you have the misconception that Finland has access to the arctic sea. It is locked in to the north by Norway and russia. So Finland won't be closer to Asia (by sea) than Spain is.
Russia has giant nuclear icebreakers and we don't. I'd say that gives them a pretty solid advantage in the Arctic.
Not at all. There is little ice left and the resources are below it and on the sea bed.
Its fine if there was a nuclear exchange because it would be over the north pole.
Meanwhile polar bears be like
The Soviet Union/Russia: the greatest NATO recruiter in history.
Excellent episode !!
Pootin is TOAST
Yawn 🥱 we've been hearing that nonsense for over 2 years.
@@jamesgreen1116 And he's now reduced to beg the North Koreans.
The guy is the death of Russia.
Great discussion from a knowledgeable team.
Very interesting
This intro is like some cutscene from command and conquer 😂😂😂
That music in the background was to annoying to watch the rest of video.
No military should be in the artic, the people need to stand up and demand all removals!
Weaponised ice caps... Great. "mess with us and its water world"
No mention of Canada when it comes to the arctic. Silly oversight or telling commentary on Ottawa’s short sightedness
Putin is not talking about this . He could lose the North Pole
He doesn't have the North Pole to lose in the first place. ???
Comforting
58000 Quadrillion someone rattled off in resources in the Arctic.
Also, Finland doesn’t even have Arctic coastline. Why are they talking solely with the finish general?!
Finland has second biggest icebreaker fleet in the world, and it's the world's foremost nation for design and construction of civilian icebreakers.
What did Machiavelli say about starting wars ? 🤷
Any naval ship travelling at the speed of an icebreaker is a sitting duck, with no scope for evasive manoeuvring. Canadas' Arctic has no ports, airstrips, roads or rail systems, and aids to navigation. So an invasion would be stuck there, if they could even raise an invasion armada.
Sorry. Checked out early. Why the music???
Moscow horde´s war record :-
1856 defeated by Britain and France
1905 defeated by Japan
1917 defeated by Germany
1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states
1939 defeated by Finland
1969 defeated by China
1989 defeated by Afghanistan
1989 defeated in the Cold War.
1996 defeated by Chechnya
2022 defeated by Ukraine
WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn
Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-
a) Hungary 1956
b) Czechoslovakia 1968
c) Moldova 1992
d) Georgia 2008
😂 your deluded
@@jamesgreen1116 You mean, "You're delusional." Two words and you got them both wrong🤡
And those dates all check out. They're historical facts. Use your functioning neuron to reevaluate your worldview, rusbot.
@@jamesgreen1116 Cry baby Sergei Krembot Number 1116. RuZZia don’t win many wars do they. You would have lost WW2 had it not been for lend lease from the USA. The truth hurts for weak RuZZia doesn’t it Sergei!
@@jamesgreen1116 Point out what is wrong with each point. We are waiting
@@DanW-nk7sn for a start when did Ukraine defeat russia? If Ukraine stopped being funded and giving weapons from 54 countries they would be bankrupt and destroyed within a week. They've lost over 20% of their former country and have over 14 million people who have left Ukraine since feb 22. There country whats left of it is destroyed and they have to pull people off the street to go and fight.
It is so hard to know what to trust. This is really interesting but why at 19:19 are there penguins???
Penguins live in Antarctica not the Arctic - don't they?
It's an illustrative shot of an ice breaker, keep up
There is already a gaping hole in the bottom of the barrel.
It is best to stop scraping it.
Arctic expansion
(A pipedream scenario)
There are a lot of obsolete vessels around the world.
This mothball fleet cost cheap. And its a burden to present owners and local government.
This fleet ought to be bought and brought first to Alaska, Bering straight, then to Norway waters.
There it ought to be sank gradually, piled unless it's an obstacle to modern deep drought ships/vessels. Firstly in Alaska, so it prevents any significant Chinese ship crossing Bering straight.
Next is Norway. The sunken ships damb, ought to be long enough to block northern fleet outgoing. Thus, two perspective goals are reached. No Chinese in Arctica, limits to northern fleet as well. Arctic future conflict is localised and downsized.
There are further benefits. Russian and Chinese intelligence will find out soon, and will try to prevent it, rising prices and buying themselves, which will drain their own resources. Russia might be so desperate, that present regime will decide to go all out nuclear in this event, which will enable retaliative blow, that will end any further ambitions forever.
Think again he still holds the artic
I thought Vlad was winning in Ukraine!
They never had the money the Chinese do 😵💫
Money is like the power the energy to do things. Obviously they had a material ability to go further than Russia.
China is collapsing.
Whoops.
The UK people love Russia not Sunak ❤❤❤❤❤❤
So many keyboard warriors but when real war comes they all run back to Paris or Berlin.😅
❤Ukrainian ❤
😎🇷🇺❣️🇨🇳😎💪
@@Bryankips RuZZfailure!
Anyone in the Kremlin knows Russia's position and must notice NATO isn't invading
why that awful background music? Sounds like a fake station
sirius patrol
James Poopey ??
The Russian arctic base is a vanity project that is mostly unfinished inside. Stop buying into the glitz and propaganda
cheeseboards and brandy
Why do you always lie about Putin?) There's nothing like it)
Have some respect, the illegitimate dictator of Chyna is called 'Winnie the Pooh' not 'she', 😂💩🤡
🇫🇮🇬🇧🫡
Капут ин /Kaput in
I love putin❤
We Swedes and Finns needs to remember Urho Kekkonen's word that we never can change the fact that our great neighbour is and will always be Russia
Your sick dangerous and aggressive neighbour Russia 🤮
Russia hasn’t always existed. There is nothing immutable about any state or nation.
Empires do fall. The chances for that arent zero and it has happened before.
Will China be their great neighbor when their border expands to the Baltic Sea?
Jane dumped communism for capitalism. Who is the hypocrite now?
No matter the truth, it's all anti Vladimir on this channel
Really?
Because I watched a documentary recently about the amount of infrastructure Russia has built their, a small city!
And they were recently drilling in an area Britain lays claim to
Obviously not at the North pole but a lot nearer than anyone else
The music in the intro is NOT overkill at all 😂 Not at all I said!
Times Radio needs to build its own cope cages.
Pointless comment.
for the love of god, would you people please stop clipping your own videos. what a waste of everyone's time. someone needs to go pour some iced coffee on your editors
Move over Grauniad, The Tiems is top dog now. Not a good look, this isn’t the first blunder either. Have you cut all the copy-editors/become over-reliant on interns?
You talk like a fool.
For domestic brain washing purpose
FP & Fdjt
You people are funny or insane! 😂
I wanted to watch this but the presenter lost all his credibility suggesting that war over the arctic was inevitable. Obviously this is just hype and the rest of what is said cannot be trusted.
Otan 😂😂😂
RuZZia - The whole world 😂😂😂😂 what a failed state lead by a failing Dictator!
Ukraine is winning 🫣🫣🫣😜🤪
Let’s hope that continues. The dark orange cloud is on the horizon though.
Stop being sarcastic
Indeed it is. Strategically, Russia is in a very poor position that is going to get worse.
Putin remains a strategic genius........ :)
Who wants to move to Russia?
No one!
Didja hear the one about two train loads of uke tanks and lavs? They got blown 2 fk up. That's no joke. Two fish are sitting in a tank. One turns to the other one and says, can you drive this thing?
Two ukes are sitting in a tank. One says to the other. "Blub blub blub blub"!
Canada ain’t doing 💩 😂
Not even 2% NATO 😮
@tomcotter8138 Guess you just missed the purchase of F35s and ships????
Another day another times radio Russian propaganda story😂
In what way is it propaganda? Explain yourself, Oleg.
Truth herds Vanya
What did Machiavelli say about starting wars ? 🤷