I just replaced a couple of V30’s with Neo Creambacks on my Rockerverb, and I’m very happy with how the tone smoothed out. I guess I essentially turned my MKII into a MKIII. I’m afraid to part with my V30’s now though, because they’re the newer ones with the good tone.
The TM Blonde deluxe came with the Neo creamback speaker and i love it, and my back loves it too. i get some really great tones out of it, but i don't play metal.
Great test. Looking to upgrade speakers in my 2 solid state Blackstar Debut 50r's(used with Tonex pedal/stereo fx ). I wanted something light and bright for 80's funk/pop/rock and the Neo copperbacks look perfect.. They cut bottom end so the bass player will love the mud free stage mix. Half the price of the Evm's too
Good Day. I just found your website and subscribed. Excellent & Enjoyable demonstration. I favour the NEO Creamback, the Vintage 30 and lastly the Copperback. Thank You & Best Regards.
Heat can weaken a neodymium magnet. I would be weary about running one in a tube combo at an outdoor summer gig in the US south. But if you have a bad back and have to schlep a heavy cab every bit helps.
I love a lot of Celestion speakers, but I could not make the Copperback work for me with any of my amps. Really harsh with a hard attack. Just not a musical speaker in my opinion. I tried really hard to make it work.
This was a bad video for it. I use one giging with a axe fx with a powerstage and it's amazing. Most tube amps are built around a traditional speaker like a green or v30.
@@judaspriestchild the thing is people are just so used to hear vintage 30 / Greenbacks on records that to them it is how a guitar tone has to sound. Crazy to me, because today nothing feels more generic than a high gain amp into a vintage 30 and a more classic one into a greenback. But for them, it sounds home : I personally ran away from these speakers decades ago, and this was in retrospect the best decision I ever took concerning my quest for Tone. There are so many speakers alternatives that beat the crap out of the V30/GB, it's not even funny, like EVM12L, many Eminence speakers, WGS , even some modern Jensens...... to me, nowadays, one has no excuses for sounding like your top 10 metal/rock bands : the V30/GB are the most politically correct, generic, boring sounding speakers you can ever find, to my ears, they are the music's Mc Donald's : it is not THAT good, but some people enjoy the comfort food it makes them feel, and the fact that they know what is it going to taste each and every time. To each is own, at the end of the day...............
@@SociopatheAssume"the V30/GB are the most politically correct". Then perhaps I'll start using them. I hate racist, xenophobic, misogynist speakers. Maybe if I find a woke speaker, I could use a couple of them in an X pattern with the politically correct speakers in a 4x12 and upset any Trump/Farage supporters who wander into my gigs
The copperback was designed and voiced to be used with class D power amps for modelers and preamp boxes with IRs. It's really not going to sound ideal for most people running traditional tube amps.
You may like it with modelers because of its more neutral tonality, but thats more because it is Celestion's take on the EVM12L concept. If you like those, but dislike their enormous weight and price, the Copperback could be the one.
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Thanks for checking them out.
I bet those neo cream & copper backs would sound killer together.
I just replaced a couple of V30’s with Neo Creambacks on my Rockerverb, and I’m very happy with how the tone smoothed out. I guess I essentially turned my MKII into a MKIII. I’m afraid to part with my V30’s now though, because they’re the newer ones with the good tone.
The TM Blonde deluxe came with the Neo creamback speaker and i love it, and my back loves it too. i get some really great tones out of it, but i don't play metal.
Great test. Looking to upgrade speakers in my 2 solid state Blackstar Debut 50r's(used with Tonex pedal/stereo fx ).
I wanted something light and bright for 80's funk/pop/rock and the Neo copperbacks look perfect.. They cut bottom end so the bass player will love the mud free stage mix.
Half the price of the Evm's too
Fantastic review ! thanks
Good Day. I just found your website and subscribed. Excellent & Enjoyable demonstration.
I favour the NEO Creamback, the Vintage 30 and lastly the Copperback.
Thank You & Best Regards.
Thanks for the sub!
Heat can weaken a neodymium magnet. I would be weary about running one in a tube combo at an outdoor summer gig in the US south. But if you have a bad back and have to schlep a heavy cab every bit helps.
I hadn't found an amp I like the neo creamback in . But I like creambacks
I love a lot of Celestion speakers, but I could not make the Copperback work for me with any of my amps. Really harsh with a hard attack. Just not a musical speaker in my opinion. I tried really hard to make it work.
My opinion, as with any high rated speakers, clean headroom is the target. For distorted tones, use pedals...💚🎸
I would think a mix of both would yield tremendous tones
There is a difference between live, recording, jamming, and personal home sessions. I assume there are solutions, but I also assume they're onerous
The neo sounds great. The copperback is a little boxy.
To me the Copper back in the clean(ish) playing sounded scooped.
came for demo stayed for the chops
well that confirms it, the copperback sounds like a cheap radio
This was a bad video for it. I use one giging with a axe fx with a powerstage and it's amazing. Most tube amps are built around a traditional speaker like a green or v30.
@@judaspriestchild the thing is people are just so used to hear vintage 30 / Greenbacks on records that to them it is how a guitar tone has to sound. Crazy to me, because today nothing feels more generic than a high gain amp into a vintage 30 and a more classic one into a greenback. But for them, it sounds home : I personally ran away from these speakers decades ago, and this was in retrospect the best decision I ever took concerning my quest for Tone. There are so many speakers alternatives that beat the crap out of the V30/GB, it's not even funny, like EVM12L, many Eminence speakers, WGS , even some modern Jensens...... to me, nowadays, one has no excuses for sounding like your top 10 metal/rock bands : the V30/GB are the most politically correct, generic, boring sounding speakers you can ever find, to my ears, they are the music's Mc Donald's : it is not THAT good, but some people enjoy the comfort food it makes them feel, and the fact that they know what is it going to taste each and every time. To each is own, at the end of the day...............
@@SociopatheAssume"the V30/GB are the most politically correct". Then perhaps I'll start using them. I hate racist, xenophobic, misogynist speakers. Maybe if I find a woke speaker, I could use a couple of them in an X pattern with the politically correct speakers in a 4x12 and upset any Trump/Farage supporters who wander into my gigs
The copperback was designed and voiced to be used with class D power amps for modelers and preamp boxes with IRs. It's really not going to sound ideal for most people running traditional tube amps.
How do you know that ? not trolling here, this is a serious question, because I couldn't find any evidence of this on the speaker's description.
You may like it with modelers because of its more neutral tonality, but thats more because it is Celestion's take on the EVM12L concept. If you like those, but dislike their enormous weight and price, the Copperback could be the one.
The neo creamback sounds not bad. The Copperback sounds horrible.
Yea the copperback is very flat. No chim no sparkle
Copper back sounds SO bad. Holy crap.