This is not even the full story and it far lighter than you think. The modern world is cushy and conducive to weakness. The fact that the Europeans didn’t completely wipe out the non-whites in the Americas is a miracle.
A good portion of history is dark, especially when seen with our modern eyes. I imagine sometime in the future people will look back on us and see our times as dark and ruthless as we see ourvown past.
The Commenter Brony That or it might make the holiday very unpopular to the point where people want to get rid of it. Thanksgiving brings out $$$ and it’s a good holiday to have before Christmas.
Wait a freakin' minute . They came to the new world and planned to fish to pay off the investors. But nobody knew how to fish . Did I hear that right? WTF
They were hoping they would learn how to in a youtube video.
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It was the inbred fucked up in the head Americans, who also brought guns with them. This is who the gun lovers descend from. Also not suprised about the incest rates or how inbred texans and some other southern states.
I’ve always wondered what our society would be like today if we remained in peace and good terms with the Natives. As a lover of different cultures it makes me so sad the way it played out.
Which is why we must go back in time to the first Thanksgiving to remain in peace with the Natives. That's right. We're going back in time to the first Thanksgiving to remain in peace with the Natives!
As a Native American myself I felt heartbroken to my ancestors when I saw this. As I learn more of people's past I more so understand their pain everyday R.I.P my Native people
@@shahzebshabbir9361 thanks to the abrahamic belief.... Oh yeah Christ's participation is best explained in the video,hence pls watch the whole video..
@@vi11236 if believer of Christ did pretty bad thing what does it have to do with Christ, I am myself from subcontinent I know how British ruled us They were doing pretty same thing like in video Doesn't mean Jesus is teaching them Invade land massacre etc Similarly India is repeating history for 2nd holocaust for Muslims Doesn't mean their 360M gods teach them invade massacre etc
Agreed, and the interesting fact is many people today declare it was ok to overrun the native american homeland as they "did not have borders" yet with clear territories between tribes there were borders. Also just like today's migrants its the unwanted that get pushed onto other nations (only america was founded by unwanted people who then betrayed their own people while killing the native people and who's ancestors then go on to deny others who would seek refuge) History is a cycle of selfishness and religious fever (luckily religion is slowly fading thanks to education,scientific breakthrough and the passage of time that has turned every religious prediction into yet another joke)
There were some good white And bad white There were some good indians And bad indians. There is no race war. Only a battle between morals; created through different cultures.
guitarhamster I hate to say this because it would make me seem like a jerk, but actually 80-90% of native Americans were at war with each other. The other precent were tribes that usually became instinct because they surrendered unconditionally to other tribes, and sometimes became food for the victors. Most notable cannibal tribes that committed genocide on other tribes include the Atzecs, Karankara, and Carib tribes.
guitarhamster Continued: But also remember that humanity in whole was always at war with some other country or tribe/culture. Whites, Native Americans, Asians, Blacks, Everyone.
@@TheNinjaFam But they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu. That's right, they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
@@antonioferrari241 that’s right. This man said people got here after finding out two turkeys planned to go back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
Sadly the school system only teaches what is allowed to be spoken upon. Better to take college courses where some professors will speak the truth and question you who did what in what part of time.
As an extremely devout Christian it hurts me that these so called Christians chose to spread their religion with violence, this wasn’t what Jesus and the apostles did to spread the word.
That's how Christians work. They did this everywhere from the Americas to the Carribean, Africa, Australia, India, China. They've been trying to take over the globe for centuries. Look up what King Leopold of Belgium did to the Congo River region of Africa. It's quite disturbing.
the video states an important fact that could have been emphasized a little more. That is, the Englishmen that the Wampoanag helped to survive are not the same Englishmen that later made war on them. It was not the same people, and it was not the same colonial government. This is a fact that seems to be constantly missed by most everyone
Yes, you are somewhat correct. However, Josiah Winslow, Edward's son, played a large part in starting actions that would lead to King Philip's War. Plymouth Colony did get involved; it was the Pequot war of 1637-8 that Plymouth stayed out of.
@@UncivilHistory that is a little bit of a stretch. The PILGRIMS are the topic, not their children. Not Massasoits children. The pilgrims modeled how things could go when people seek compromise and peace. They were also given the land where the patuxet ince lived.
@@mca4093 Right. So, we can focus on the PILGRIMS and appreciate their model. When their kids showed their bloodlust, it isn´t just about blaming the kids and the other Puritans. We´ve ultimately got to get into the role of human biology and the meaning of morality. And Christians need to start sinking their teeth into multidisciplinary literacy overall. The Pilgrims model, then, the data tells us, wasn´t a strong enough one, or comprehensive enough. Personally, I´ve learned peace by studying liberal arts psychology and sociology, all with my Bio Anthro degree. I went from there over years, having gone from atheist humanist in high school to interfaith seeker. Historically, the Quaker-Friends came on the scene with exceptional Christian spirituality and integrity. Others more pop up as individuals. Christianity, then, in the rough and tumble of the rise of Christian technological might overall using University-based philosophical scientific power by businesspeople types, was largely entering an animal phase. Biological impulses rolling like steamrollers. I think we need to get clear about that, because it´s not about guilt. It´s about human rights and sustainability, and oh yeah, "we" are out of control. Today and worldwide. We need to learn from the Native Ams today to control and orient our inflamed psychocultural influenced selves to learning and sustainability. Native Ams have to insert themselves into our educational systems, where Christian integrity has been modernized and can be spiritualized. The Pilgrim model has merit in its context, and when modernized appropriately. Modernization has been a b*tch. I´d say studying a lot of anthropology goes far, as Obama´s having an anthropologist mom kind of informally suggests. Juggling all the layers is a rewarding task in the end, that can help unite key indicators like Quaker-Friends and Unitarian Universalist interfaith, and the need for Native Ams to syncretize, not resent.
@@UncivilHistory factually youre trying to simplify something that cant be simplify sense during these times Indians were also doing horrible geocide of Europeans and Blaming diseases on just Europeans i a complete idiotic foolish state meant sense even Europeans were dying in mass from diseases just like Indians neither side has any understand of medicine or science or diseases
Pop culture and politics are filled with vicious gossip, its why for example people of Italian heritage are often called mafia as almost a reflex, or that Italian men always cheat on their wives. It isn't true, but its why of the 7th things God hates he calls "gossip/slander" an abomination!
Bit late to this but I always thank my mom for teaching me what really happened when I was 6 years old. Some people say I was too young but it’s important to let kids know the truth
I actually used this video as part of teaching my 7yo the truth. We also discussed the murder of Wituwamat and how that's the first time that the Pilgrim leadership named "Thanksgiving" to a feast in celebration to his head being placed on a pike on their fort. The happy jolly harvest feast they shared with the Wampanoag in 1621 was a footnote compared to keeping the blood soaked clothes and head of murdered Pequot tribesmen as trophies and even used to decorate Governor Bradford's second wedding. Off to go make some cutesy clothespin "Indians" now for his school project! 😖
Jesus brought the Pilgrims to America as the new promise land. Israel was long gone in 1620. Genesis 12. Matthew 21:43-44 and Jeremiah 31:31. The Pilgrims brought mulitiple merchant ships carrying supplies and paid them with European money. The Pilgrims enjoyed a nice first Thanksgiving with the Indians proving they were friends. The Indian wars didn't start until the British arrived, convincing the Indians to kill the settlers under false pretenses. The British chased defectors in America and attempted hostile takeovers many times.
Theocracy was done away with after Old testament Israel. There is nothing in the bible about christians nation building because it says we are strangers in a strange land passing through. If you live for this world by it's standards then you are not truly following Christ. He expressly told his own disciples not to lord over anyone but we are to be like he was as a humble servant. God never forces Himself on anyone. Those who do are of Satan. It is all coming out now about the corrupt churches and the Catholic abomination. Truth is coming out whether you like it or not. Jesus said that all that is hidden will be made known. All the religious liars are being revealed. Jesus said that "ALL" the nations will mourn at the sign of His return. That means there are no christian nations. To contradict that is calling God a liar. Hypocrites better read the bible because they are in for a rude awakening.
@@brackenscorner2292 oh i thought he was talking about the Santa and Merry parts of Christmas, and even though i think he is wrong i cant argue with what he thinks is fact and not.
N B yeah and it was ridiculous. She was getting into her car, drunk as a skunk, with my little niece and nephew and driving to her house an hour away (it was already midnight) so she attacked me, drank more to prove a point then drive off. I’m only 19, I would’ve thought the adults there would’ve cared more lol
The particular settlers in this instance, however, were cooperative and coexisted largely peacefully with the native Americans. It gets frustrating, then, when people attack the holiday celebrating the mutual coexistence of two cultures (however brief it was.) It is as if certain people believe that coexistence and acceptance is *not* virtuous.
@@revolrz22 People attack the holiday because it's like when your "best friend" tries to get you to remember all the good times you all had together while glossing over or forgetting all the trouble he knows he caused you having those good times.
@@revolrz22 The complaint is that the good times are spotlighted to draw attention away from the bad times connected to them: That there is a disingenuous aspect to the way Thanksgiving Day is presented. Doesn't mean that there's something wrong with what you're saying, just that others "...see through a glass darkly..." as the scripture goes.
As a native I don’t celebrate thanksgiving. However I’m so thankful and I’m made so happy to see how my other friends celebrate it. They gather with their friends and have friendsgivings, they see their families and connect with them, I think that’s beautiful. My ancestors have felt pain, and nothing can change that. But I’m glad that pain birthed love and friendship.
You can acknowledge and thank how he helped the early settlers and bridge an early divide, while at the same time acknowledging his greedy end (honestly though, can you blame a person who was abducted, brain-washed and had his people wiped out as he was sold into servitude?)
Saleucami Actually, I’m part Native American, but that’s not important. The point is that Squanto was manipulating both the colonists and neighboring tribes at the same time to benefit himself and himself only. That’s just evil. Also, it’s not like the colonists intentionally killed his tribe. They didn’t realize they were spreading diseases that the Native Americans couldn’t survive. They were just trying to trade
He knew what was gonna happen and was indoctrinated...they told him to sell out his people by becomign there ruler..he tried...but we all know the europeans couldnt keep even one treaty so they came anyways and killed everyone..
@@unknownfrvr6767 None of those in England today emigrated did they? By definition, they are not the colonisers. They, and their ancestors, have stayed in England, which gives them every right to complain about immigration
Rod Buchan to be honest even if they did complain it's not gonna do anything is it , we have already robbed the English of its culture , it's way too late anyway there country is gone 😂😂😂😂
History was generally less chill than you're made to think in elementary school. But if you have the right teacher, they can make this kind of thing fun, even when the truth is sort of depressing.
@@aisultanumar9152 they're sick a lot of these holidays are pagan holidays, this country is not for the so called "minorities" even though we're the ones who built this country, so them thinking this is ok as long as the truth is now out and recognized is because they were the one's who enslaved and destroyed our generations and people then took everything from us just like Puerto Rico and America which belonged to the "Native American's",
If u love pretty roses that come from the grown, at lest watch how it came to be before u believe what I see, diamonds were made from coals, America or Babylon was made by slaves, who are called natives, yet we own the land
@@lulphil4278 Amos 5:21-23 King James Version 21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. 22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. 23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. (Oh, and the blacks ((not African)), hispanics, and native Americans are the Holy Hebrew Israelites. "Discourse on the Evidences of the American Indians Being the Descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel: Delivered Before the Mercantile Library Association, Clinton Hall" Book by Mordecai Manuel Noah in 1837)
Genocideal Whites doing geneocide and introducing diseases.What's new? Karma gonna bite murica which was built on the bones of Native Americans. Funny how they are still called "Indians".
@@thegreatgatsby8180 You can’t even spell(Genocideal isn’t a word) You complain about the term “Indians” but yet you use Native Americans despite the fact America is named after Americo Vespucci, an Italian Explorer. You ignore the fact that most nations on this planet is build on the bones of others. You forget that if it was China , Korea, Japan, Mali, or Morocco the Natives would still be screwed by disease.
No one is an angel. If we lived in Nazi Germany in 1941 we all more than likely would be doing the salute. A very small percentage would resist. Its the nature of humans to do evil.
@@NorthernWildOutdoors No its is not our nature to do evil, the people who murdered in the camps were evil, it is in our nature to be human, we survive, we create morals to support soceity but evil ? Truly evil ? Thats only an insignificant percentage.
Where's the part where 2 turkeys went back in time to take Turkey off the menu? It can't be historically accurate if they didn't show the part where 2 turkeys went back in time to take Turkey off the menu.
That's right It's not historically accurate if they don't show the part where 2 turkeys go back in time to the first Thanksgiving to take turkeys off the menu
If you want to find some more "Native Americans" head on down to Mexico, Since they were driven out of the South. Their decendants should also be respected as the natives of North America.
@Cano the place their ancestors called sacred is now bulldozed and contaminated with oil. a once proud population of native Americans have been eradicated and systemically made poorer because of property laws that only favoured a certain race. today these white immigrants had the audacity to tell other people to "go back to their country" because they might bring "crime". But do tell me how triggered u feel because u dont want to own up to that reality. The past happened and we dont blame u. But when you want to pretend that the past didnt happen, we start to get suspicious as to why you want to do that.
@Sal Bass No...that would be Islam. The Crusades were a response to Muslim invasions of the Holy Land. Keep in mind, Muslims also invaded Europe, but were defeated by Charles "The Hammer" Martel at the Battle of Tours. He's one of my historical heroes.
Sal Bass Thats... extreme. You went to far there, singling out a majority of the population. Calling them all weak as if they are below you. I understand that religious people do this as well and complain about others being weak and then needing to join them because they are the superior group. But as someone that’s non-religious as well, I know that it’s people like you who give us a bad name.
I think what this video forgot to mention they never ate Turkey at Thanksgiving, they instead ate Pizza thanks to the actions of 2 turkeys who went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
And she’s 100% correct why is this, because Politics gets involved and usually the winning side gets to write their own story. Common sense dictates there are Teo sides plus the truth somewhere in the middle. Here’s how you can tell what to believe the old adage “ actions speak louder than words “.
lol, the Puritans fled their home country to avoid being suppressed because of their religion, so they came to North America to suppress others to their religion. oh the irony. anyway, great story and animation. couldn't think of a better one even if i try to make it fictional.
No. That's not what happened. They came to a new land and the inhabitants of that land were largely hostile. It's not that they intended to persecute others, it was either leave, risking death on the seas, then wherever they landed unwelcome or fight for their survival in a place where they already established a home, which meant annihilating their enemy. It's not like they didn't try to keep the peace. Ultimately, the Indians did not want them there. What were the puritans supposed to do? Stand there and get scalped? Leave? They chose the lesser of two evils. Stay and fight. Protect their livelihood. Less risk of death that way.
@@frozengansit0 Not when one is trimming his downstairs beard investing too much attention to the Turtles cartoon. Let's just say one has lost just over 10mm, and my courting device looks like it was made on a Minecraft server. Not to worry.
Who said they were "highly skilled seamen"? They were just religious people looking for a new place to live. They hired a Ship captain with minimal crew. Who At first stayed but half the crew died and the Mayflower and remaining crew went back less than a year later.
The actual holiday was declared by Abraham Lincoln. The pilgrims are credited with the first harvest festival. The actual national thanksgiving holiday though comes from Abraham Lincoln in 1863. They partly wanted to use the holiday to be thankful for the victories they were having in the civil war.
Jerry Carter Let’s review. The pilgrims escape persecution, then settle in unoccupied land cleared out by disease, then they barely survive in winter, then they form alliance with a tribe, then they peacefully celebrate and have what we call thanksgiving and spend time with our families, then years later the Indians attack pilgrims and break the treaty. And for some reason people are still attacking thanksgiving? A bunch mental retards.
The first Congress of the USA in 1789 passed the Bill of Rights and immediately after passed this first joint resolution of the House and Senate recorded in the Congressional Record for September 25, 1789. An official, national day of thanksgiving was at the very beginning of the American nation. It was a long standing custom in America just not a national holiday in the way we have them now. "Resolved, That a joint committee of both Houses be directed to wait upon the President of the United States to request that he would recommend to the people of the United States a Day of Public Thanksgiving and Prayer. . . ."
I was disappointed to find out that in this video, they didn't mention two turkeys going back in time to the First Thanksgiving to get turkeys of the menu.
That's right, I was disappointed to find out that in this video, they didn't mention two turkeys going back in time to the First Thanksgiving to get turkeys of the menu.
TheEzmaGames It’s not offensive, it’s just incorrect. Back in the days of the colonies, Europe had just discovered Asia, but they had only explored and interacted with people from India, so they assumed that the entire continent was also India. When Columbus discovered the Americas, he had thought he had sailed to India, so he addressed the people there as Indians. I guess that the term just stuck around because of Columbus, but the word is outdated, because we now know that Native Americans are not from India and that India is not all of Asia.
Uncivil History I’m so glad that people like yourself are presenting early American history neutrally and from multiple sides. Being part Native American myself, I really appreciate a video that focuses on the actual history and not anti-white propaganda.
@@exu7325 :45 Tradesmen introduced disease. By saying that the natives were trading with the Europeans for 100 years, then after being denied settlement tradesmen introduced disease is an indication of intent. That is why Elie is saying the video suggests it was on purpose. the general population did not have the knowledge to carry out any type of germ warfare.
We’re going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get the turkeys off the menu. That’s right, we’re going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get the turkeys off the menu.
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 Indigenous Americans migrated to America in the early history of mankind. We dispersed throughout the continents and settled, establishing the hundreds of tribes and unique identities. As cultures and civilizations evolved, some would unfortunately wage war with each other, including territorial war, and partake in certain malefactions such as slavery. Sadly, it seems to be the natural course of mankind. It doesn’t erase the atrocities committed by the European colonizers nor the tragic effects they have had in shaping the modern world. Which empire are you referencing?
@jack brandt look jack. The truth of today my not be the truth of tommorow. While that being said this video shows me a more deeper story of what happened that day ☺ but who said that I believed it all maybe most of it was true but who knows. School teach you what they want u to know. And I wrote that just because I thought it was funny not because I believed it all lol :)
@B0omer96 A good deal of Asia and Africa were colonized by Europeans, so there's that. Oh and then there's China. They're doing it alright. Politically and now by debt traps
I'm not american but I'm giving this video a thumbs up! The reason why I liked this video is because it's so unbiased unlike any other videos on youtube about this event and projecting hate to America.
I only watched cartoons since we didn't learn American history (I'm from Europe), so most people that are surprised probably learned from Disney and are upset that it wasn't accurate documentary 😂
They have been carrying around the bible for centuries and they still don’t have a connection with God. Matthew 22:36-40 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Well considering the fact the Natives were literally killing, raping and kidnapping the European colonists, I think you can understand why it was a bit challenging to follow this. Try living in a world where you are in fear of your life every night. Welcome to the world Pre-1800, if you want a taste go live in Isreal by the Gaza Strip for a week. Not saying Jesus was wrong, I'm saying Judge not lest ye be judged.
Aristotle discovered systematic reasoning about concrete reality. Jesus retreated into mystical fantasy and got crucified. You have your teacher and I have mine. Good luck, youre gonna need it. Carry a nail-puller.
@@TeaParty1776 Mine died for a cause facing his enemy like a man. Yours died from poopoo fleeing in fear. Just saying! ;) Not meaning to debate religion/philsophy just a historical friendly jab.
And this is news? Jesus told us His followers were few. The Catholics teach salvation in spite of Christ. As for the Protestants, they were REFORMERS-- it wasn't their wish to divide Catholicism. As a result, they never fully obeyed Christ either. It's tough enough w/o entire institutions & their flocks bleating conformity to our ears. Sinners or backsliding, the results are the same. The wages of sin is death. The natural mind cannot understand the things of God because they are spiritually discerned. But we who have the mind of Christ discern all things. Judge/distinguish the tree by the fruit it bears. The battle really comes down to the children of darkness hating the children of Light.
@@andrewsansom2414 Don't you think they should have? Is this not a good example of how border security can protect from an invasion and cultural conversion by force?
The most upsetting part was near the end where they talked about how their culture was erased and replaced by force. Killing a man and taking his shit is one thing, but erasing his identity is horrible beyond the pale.
It wasn't replaced by force. It said that because of capitalistic opportunities, Europeans and their culture quickly outnumbered the Natives. As it would turn out, a number of colonies were founded on the principles of religious liberty.
gally turndrop when the united states government kidnapped my great grandfather away from his apache parents, they forced him into a school designed to make everything about his people bad and everything about the country that kidnapped him great. Literal brain washing. As for his parents, if they werent also sterilized they wouldve been moved to a reservation (inhospitable useless land) where just to survive they would’ve had to have given up what was left of their culture.
Danny D what the fuck are you talking about? You are the ones doing the brain washing. The united states and most european countries are held up by lies
@@MasterKeyMagic, it's tragic that your GGFather was stolen from his parents and their culture, language, and thousands of years of history were erased. Like many americans, my ancestors were mostly immigrants. I'm sad, and angry that I know so very little about my Grandmother, she died young in her 20's. She was a "half-breed" Cherokee woman in Oklahoma, had at least 8 kids by 2 husbands. Her first "marriage" would have been when she was no older than 12, perhaps younger. I know very little about her, but my Great-Grandparents on my Dad's side of the family came from Germany in the 1880's. We know a lot about this part of the family, there are records, photos, documents. The family home is still in the family after over 130 years. I don't have that kind of connection to my "half-breed" Grandmother, who died @1929. It was considered shameful to have "savage" blood, so even if there were records and photos, they didn't survive. I'm lucky that my Mother told me about my Grandmother, all she could remember because she became an orphan at 11.
But I thought they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu, that’s right they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu!
Mocking??? It's Thanksgiving...a day to give thanks for what we have...to meet with our loved ones and enjoy a good meal. Celebrate it however you wish, but it's a great holiday that is underrated I think.
@@gggrraus9827 I'm confused by the video? What part of thanksgiving is wrong? what's with the "what really happened"? This video basically told the story of thanksgiving, that everyone already agreed with. Can someone please explain this to me....
Thanksgiving is a celebration of what took place at a particular point in history not the atrocities that took place 60 years later.... It is a reminder that we can always go back to the way it was before the atrocities.... The sharing the carrying the putting away of our racist hate and indifference. Pointing out all of the horrible things we did to each other years later is a good thing and helps us keep our perspective but canceling the celebration today and the reminder of the good times and that we could have them again is a very bad thing.
@@chrisperez7039 *"No one is trying to cancel thanksgiving."* Really? Could have fooled me.... Or are they fooling you? Wake up and smell the coffee.....
@@qweadd6987 there were good people in there for sure. But most of the kids were degenerates. A lot of them ended up in jail or dead. Such is the way with those people
@@iloveindianationalhockeyte4621 white people have done the most good I believe. But that doesn't go to say we haven't had our share of screw ups. I would not want to live in a world run by a bunch of sub saharans.
I think times are changing to reflect that, I am 25 years old and when I was in highschool/college this is basically exactly what we were taught in Massachusetts. We have some of the best schooling in the country so it shouldn't be surprising, but I am always surprised that other kids did not get these lessons in school.
Absolutely! In kindergarten I wore a headdress for Thanksgiving (some kids were assigned pilgrims) and I cringe at how that was the school's idea of teaching the topic
No, this is someone's opinion on what happened, it is not an accurate painting of the truth and is highly biased. Please keep biased changed history meant to demonize one specific race (white people) out of schools, it's too dystopian for America.
Yes, the settlers did a lot of mean things to the natives. However, some of the natives were no different; they had a history of conquering other tribes and taking them as slaves.
Do you see a pattern of almost every colony having food shortages from their lack of preparation or survival skills, even by settlers' standards? Jamestown (Gold digging, but little food), Roanoke (implications of mass desertion to nearby tribes due to lack of food), and *sigh* for some reason, Jamestown settlers not having fishing skills despite planning to make a fishing colony.
I know, and imagine knowing the land, thousands of years of a head start, and still not being organized enough, strong enough, smart enough or advanced enough to fend off such incompetent colonies. No wonder so many early English settlers spoke of Providence and of God on their side...their ability to win over and over despite their disadvantages makes it seem like "God", whatever force that exists, was clearly on their side and assisting them and smiting their enemies. God is surely a white man if he exists at all because he sure seems to make whites win a lot and everyone else lose.
@@danepotmo2513 Can't this be said for all religions where one race is extremely dominant compared to others with the same religion. Like, if successful Muslims were all Middle Eastern, would that make Allah Arabian?
Wait.. where are the 2 turkeys that went back in time to get turkeys OFF the menu, Thats right, where are the the turkeys that went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu?
What's most tragic for me was that Edward Winslow and Massasoit grew to become friends, with Edward slowly changing his view of Massasoit being a savage. For a time, there was actual peace, even friendship to an extent. Sadly all good things come to an end
That is very good to know, thank you.... While we know that most all peoples (individuals as well as nations) have a varied history with good & bad & even unspeakable tragedies, it is good to mourn the mistakes & failings of others. (as well as our own) And even better than not perpetuating that which is wrong; is to hold onto those things which are good, make for peace between peoples, & inspire us all to be better... As you have done in showing us the value of a friendship that bridged the gaps between people in vastly differing cultures. I'm sure there were other examples of friendship & good that we could all be encouraged by. I have read some myself in my search for the truth in our history.
"In the middle of the street,and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." Revelation 22:2 Part of John's vision of eternity with our Creator God...
the same thing of what french european settlers did in quebec when it was claimed by jacques cartier in the name of the french monarchy and king for france's colonization and settlement of the french europeans in north america, they also did a number of massacres like the lachine massacre, my mom who is a french canadian used to tell me these stories when i was young because her ancestors we're french colonist settlers in north america from france
He still presents the information in a half-lie manner with extreme bias. This is not educational, it's propaganda with some historical facts misrepresented.
@@b.ballooon9225 Trying really hard to discredit this a? Hitting up every comment with the same reply "Its biased!" lol STFU You know nothing Jon Snow!
Pretty much the same story great grandma ( dads moms side)used to tell at Thanksgiving. Her side of the family came over on the Mayflower. She had this small cherry wood table that had been passed down that came over in 1620. It always fascinated me when I was a kid. Dads side came over in 1637 and founded Essex Ma.
I’m Native American, Shoshone Bannock and Sioux, I live on my reservation. It sucks because our ancestors had the language and culture beat out of them in those schools they were put in later. All of my elders in my family that were very traditional had now passed away. We still hold plenty of tradition and sacred lands close to us, but many people aren’t fluent in our language, same with me. I genuinely am sad about this, but everything evolves and changes eventually. Slava Orbánovi! Slava Nazi!
That’s right. He/she is pretty much it’s the same story his/her grandma ( dads moms side)used to tell at Thanksgiving. Her grandmother side of the family came over on the Mayflower. She had this small cherry wood table that had been passed down that came over in 1620. It always fascinated him/her when he/she was a kid. Dads side came over in 1637 and founded Essex Ma.
Nothing to brag about. And I highly doubt anyone in your family founded anything--people LIVED there before them. Did you watch the video at all? You got nothing out of it. The land was POPULATED before your ancestors invaded.
It just goes to show,that the origins of many historical events (in this case the first Thanksgiving) are much darker than what they teach you in school.
Linh Nguyen Because there are a lot of mistakes. For example, there is no evidence of a “First Thanksgiving”. Moreover, King James didn’t want the separatists to go to Virginia (where they missed) and they relied on a merchant group.
I'm confused by the video? What part of thanksgiving is wrong? what's with the "what really happened"? This video basically told the story of thanksgiving, that everyone already agreed with. Can someone please explain this to me....
In one of the colonies Thanksgiving was celebrated as we know it, but in another colony it took a sinister turn of death for their invited Indian guest. In school, we were just taught the "good" part, not the other. Like with Custer or say Jefferson@@bobross4616
@@raliixaviero4674 Did they ever tell anything untruthful? No. Did they leave out something that happened later, that they should've added? Yes. Maybe don't use the word "literally", it appears to be misused a lot...
Go learn about and make friends with your local tribes then. Hundreds of native cultures still exist and many are thriving. If you want to show respect and honour, guilt is not the way to do it. Learn their languages and cultures, support native businesses.
@@gavinmccormick3658 name three tribes that are "thriving". From what I can tell, pretty much all of the tribes are still healing from the wounds of the past. They're in bad shape, and it's one of the world's greatest tragedies
You're also forgetting that prior to the thanksgiving the settlers were asked to help fend off a waring tribe that killed the men and raped the women of the weaker smaller tribe, in helping them, the tribe repaid by helping the settlers survive the winter. I know this doesn't help one bit with wanting to keep up white guilt but that part should be told too.
Anything that doesn't demonize white people wont' be covered by SJWs like this, they've gone full racist/hate-filled and ethno-nationalist at this point.
@@trademarktaz You're being racist right now. How do you not see that? Seriously, this has to be a joke from the Onion. By calling me a "racist idiot" and blaming me for actions EVERY RACE HAS DONE, you're being a racist. You're doing what a certain German man did to a group of people in the early 1930s, he started by demonizing their history. You're doing that same thing now, and using it as an argument against me. That's pure racist hatred. You should re-think your views. Stop the cycle you racist, stop continuing the hatred and blaming people for things every group has done.
@@trademarktaz I hate to break this to you but all races has committed plenty of evil. Not sure what your race is but no matter what it is I can give you a list of the atrocities it has done throughout history. Your targeted racism is duly noted.
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@anonymous boy25 -Good point. And my thought: Religion & true Christianity are not the same thing. Many attrocities have been committed in the name of religion which the true God had nothing to do with & condemns.
I wish we could have a high-budget series made about the true story. Not only is it fascinating, we could finally set the record straight and stop lying to ourselves.
Was expecting a horror story, but really glad that feast actually happened without the rest of the horror part. Really entertaining animation, my son is Dutch made my day.
This reminded me of when they went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys OFF the menu. Thats right, This reminded me of when they went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys OFF the menu.
It doesn't matter. The real story is that the native Americans were an isolated group and had been for thousands of years. As such their immune systems had never been exposed to the pathogens the Europeans had. This means they had evolved no resistance whatsoever. Any time a group is isolated, their genetic diversity disappears. As long as nothing ever changes in their isolated environment they might be okay. However, as soon as something new is introduced, they're doomed to succumb to it. It's all part of natural selection and evolution. Isolation is bad and will eventually kill you. That's the real moral of the story here!
Curtis Jordan But as long as the Indians we’re on this land they wasn’t dying from animals or diseases until the “Settlers” appeared. The same way they are able to drop a bomb that was “man made” to wipe out us all (while the higher power escapes to higher ground) “the moon” and leave us all behind who doesn’t matter. I’m not finding it hard to believe that a disease was plotted and put into action to wipe out the native Indians. But to each it’s own that’s my opinion 🤷🏽♀️
The Plymouth people were not Puritans. Puritans remained as members of the Church of England but were constantly trying to get the Church to become much stricter and institute laws based on the Bible. This made them unpopular with the rest of the Anglicans. They eventually left England and set up a very well funded colony in Massachusetts Bay. They were so strict and intolerant that several other colonies were set up by people trying to get away from them. The Plymouth colony (commonly called Pilgrims) were Separatists. They wanted to leave the Church of England and start their own church. This was basically illegal and they suffered persecution as a result. Their expedition was much earlier and not as well funded (hence the terrible death rate). They included people who were not members of their church as part of the colony.
We're going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu. That's right, we're going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
"For 40 years the two peoples lived alongside one another in a state of peace, and even amity. Inevitably personal conflicts flared from time to time, but they were effectively contained and resolved on their own terms; they did not lead on to larger difficulties. This whole fortunate situation depended partly on the personal influence of the leaders of each group, and partly on considerations of geography. As long as Bradford and Massasoit were shaping policy, and as long as there was ample space for both communities, friendship continued. But after 1660 there was a change on both counts. The growing population of the Colony created powerful pressures for further expansion; and the General Court responded by allowing some new settlement nearer than ever before to the Wampanoag lands at Mount Hope. This meant increased contact between the two peoples, and a higher level of quarrels over such things as title boundaries and errant livestock. Meanwhile Bradford had died in 1657, and Massasoit in 1660, and the new leaders on both sides, while surely not eager for conflict, were less deeply committed to ways of peace. The pattern of developments in the years that followed as variable and complex, but the overall trend of Indian-settler relations was unmistakably downhill. The end result was the single most traumatic event in the whole history of the Old Colony, the waging of King Philip's War. Philip was the younger son of Massasoit who had come to the chieftainship of the Wampanoags in 1662; and it was he who opened direct hostilities with an attack on the town of Swansea in June, 1675." -"A Little Commonwealth, Family Life in Plymouth Colony" by John Demos, pp 14-16.
Yeah, but that doesn't fit the narrative. It's also interesting that they don't mention that the diseases were spread previously by traders by accident, not on purpose. Plus, I'm not sure but if Squanto was taken to Spain to be sold, it was probably by the Spanish who are no more Pilgrims or even English then they are Indian or Russian for that matter. It was English monks I believe who rescued Squanto and an Englishman who arranged to send him back to America, so other than establishing a colony, the English seem reasonably blameless until many years later when they expanded as your post points out. So I don't see how any of the facts contradict the traditional story of Thanksgiving.
"Ninnimissinuog" is the correct way to say it, and it means "My Relatives," Missin is a 'regular person,' but really a 'relative.' That's Nipmuk, by the way. But this is a truer telling than has been told before. Thanks for bringing out the Native voice.
You are most welcome! Thank you so much for your constructive comment, it is most appreciated. I am honored that I can do my part in telling this tale.
The problem is the white man is still doing the same shit in this modern era ... no difference if they are not held accountable they will never change.
@@toring61_52 Everything among the Natives was peace and love before the Europeans arrived? All of the Natives settled all of their differences peacefully? No war? No crime? What a Utopia the continent must've been before the Europeans came and introduced the concepts of war and murder and kidnapping. You see, it's like peeling back an onion...there are layers to the story...the "Pilgrims" were not the timid persecuted people we were told they were in grade school. But the Natives were not the noble peace-seekers trying to make friends with their new neighbors. The Natives wanted guns and other technology in order to defeat their neighbors. The Europeans wanted land. But the problem with making deals with a group of people with far-advanced technology...in the long run...you will lose. Technology always wins over brute force.
stazang You can only hold the white men responsible if they actually had a hand in it. If they support racism now, call them out, but if you hold all white people accountable for actions that were neither their own nor support, then you yourself are being racist.
>makes a deal to pay off debt with fish
>Doesn't know how to fish
>Are from an island and sailed there
DrDerp PHD 😂😭
lol
From an island FULL of fishermen...
DrDerp PHD umm I’m pretty sure they know how to fish since they’re close to sea and sailed there
The real story is ALWAYS darker.
@@TheCommenterDragon True. They treat us like kids by sugar coating history. I find it a bit patronizing personally.
This is not even the full story and it far lighter than you think. The modern world is cushy and conducive to weakness. The fact that the Europeans didn’t completely wipe out the non-whites in the Americas is a miracle.
A good portion of history is dark, especially when seen with our modern eyes. I imagine sometime in the future people will look back on us and see our times as dark and ruthless as we see ourvown past.
ring around the rosies
The Commenter Brony That or it might make the holiday very unpopular to the point where people want to get rid of it. Thanksgiving brings out $$$ and it’s a good holiday to have before Christmas.
Wait a freakin' minute . They came to the new world and planned to fish to pay off the investors. But nobody knew how to fish . Did I hear that right? WTF
I know right, haha!!! Adventurous types, huh??
LaMesa Cole more like stupid types
@@Spauso 👏
They were hoping they would learn how to in a youtube video.
It was the inbred fucked up in the head Americans, who also brought guns with them. This is who the gun lovers descend from. Also not suprised about the incest rates or how inbred texans and some other southern states.
I’ve always wondered what our society would be like today if we remained in peace and good terms with the Natives. As a lover of different cultures it makes me so sad the way it played out.
Which is why we must go back in time to the first Thanksgiving to remain in peace with the Natives. That's right. We're going back in time to the first Thanksgiving to remain in peace with the Natives!
I always wonder what this country would be if yall didn't exist.
@@cherishwilson2156third world nation.
@@crossoverhero6802Oh No ! Not a chance. I'm worn out from all the turkeys going back in time to abolish turkey being on the menu.
Life has never been like that. Even the hippies didn't make it through their acid dream of "oneness with everything".
As a Native American myself I felt heartbroken to my ancestors when I saw this. As I learn more of people's past I more so understand their pain everyday
R.I.P my Native people
If u have accepted their Satan (Christ) leave it behind ....show respect to ur ancestors...
@@vi11236 what does Christ have to do with this
@@shahzebshabbir9361 thanks to the abrahamic belief.... Oh yeah Christ's participation is best explained in the video,hence pls watch the whole video..
Stay strong my friend 💪💪💪.
@@vi11236 if believer of Christ did pretty bad thing what does it have to do with Christ,
I am myself from subcontinent
I know how British ruled us
They were doing pretty same thing like in video
Doesn't mean Jesus is teaching them
Invade land massacre etc
Similarly India is repeating history for 2nd holocaust for Muslims
Doesn't mean their 360M gods teach them invade massacre etc
The Native Americans should have built that wall. Europe didn’t send there best.
@Oberstleutnant Johannes Wiese So are Africans
Many of the Natives were at war with each other.
Agreed, and the interesting fact is many people today declare it was ok to overrun the native american homeland as they "did not have borders" yet with clear territories between tribes there were borders.
Also just like today's migrants its the unwanted that get pushed onto other nations (only america was founded by unwanted people who then betrayed their own people while killing the native people and who's ancestors then go on to deny others who would seek refuge)
History is a cycle of selfishness and religious fever (luckily religion is slowly fading thanks to education,scientific breakthrough and the passage of time that has turned every religious prediction into yet another joke)
Magic EyeSee so are you 😊
One of the best comments I've ever seen
There were some good white
And bad white
There were some good indians
And bad indians.
There is no race war. Only a battle between morals; created through different cultures.
YESS
@@guitarhamster102 You're really bad at trolling lol
guitarhamster I hate to say this because it would make me seem like a jerk, but actually 80-90% of native Americans were at war with each other. The other precent were tribes that usually became instinct because they surrendered unconditionally to other tribes, and sometimes became food for the victors.
Most notable cannibal tribes that committed genocide on other tribes include the Atzecs, Karankara, and Carib tribes.
guitarhamster
Continued:
But also remember that humanity in whole was always at war with some other country or tribe/culture. Whites, Native Americans, Asians, Blacks, Everyone.
I shed a tear
Too bad this never happened after a few turkeys went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
That’s right. Too bad this never happened after a few turkeys went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
@@slockywush04 that's right, too bad this never happened when a few turkeys went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
They ate pizza
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@@LargeMelon That’s right. Too bad this never happened after a few turkeys went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
Who’s here after finding out two turkeys planned to go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu?
That’s right. People got here after finding out two turkeys planned to go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
Actually it used to be bald eagles for thanksgiving diner but a couple of them went back in time and got it switched to turkeys.
@@TheNinjaFam But they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu. That's right, they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
Y’all are Idiots. That never happened. You got that shit from a animated film.🙄
@@antonioferrari241 that’s right. This man said people got here after finding out two turkeys planned to go back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
Bruh we ALL know it’s about time travelling Turkeys
bruh
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I forgot about that movie! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is it that animated movie?
@@Top_Hat_Man yeah bruh it's called free birds
Wumpis 😂
Not only should this be a movie it should be taught as history in every school
Sadly the school system only teaches what is allowed to be spoken upon.
Better to take college courses where some professors will speak the truth and question you who did what in what part of time.
The question is why don't they?
They did guess now many pages we got on this...3 fucking pages on this topic⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️😣
@Anthony Shepherd This is taught, kids just ignore it.
This is a movie, Disney actually made a movie about this.
As an extremely devout Christian it hurts me that these so called Christians chose to spread their religion with violence, this wasn’t what Jesus and the apostles did to spread the word.
Jesus and God was and are with the settlers
@@bennelong8451Blasphemy. Ignore this guy.
That's how Christians work. They did this everywhere from the Americas to the Carribean, Africa, Australia, India, China. They've been trying to take over the globe for centuries. Look up what King Leopold of Belgium did to the Congo River region of Africa. It's quite disturbing.
How’s that?
These extremists are still trying to impose their fear based religiion on everyone else.
the video states an important fact that could have been emphasized a little more. That is, the Englishmen that the Wampoanag helped to survive are not the same Englishmen that later made war on them. It was not the same people, and it was not the same colonial government. This is a fact that seems to be constantly missed by most everyone
Yes, you are somewhat correct. However, Josiah Winslow, Edward's son, played a large part in starting actions that would lead to King Philip's War. Plymouth Colony did get involved; it was the Pequot war of 1637-8 that Plymouth stayed out of.
@@UncivilHistory that is a little bit of a stretch. The PILGRIMS are the topic, not their children. Not Massasoits children.
The pilgrims modeled how things could go when people seek compromise and peace. They were also given the land where the patuxet ince lived.
@@mca4093 Right. So, we can focus on the PILGRIMS and appreciate their model. When their kids showed their bloodlust, it isn´t just about blaming the kids and the other Puritans. We´ve ultimately got to get into the role of human biology and the meaning of morality. And Christians need to start sinking their teeth into multidisciplinary literacy overall.
The Pilgrims model, then, the data tells us, wasn´t a strong enough one, or comprehensive enough. Personally, I´ve learned peace by studying liberal arts psychology and sociology, all with my Bio Anthro degree. I went from there over years, having gone from atheist humanist in high school to interfaith seeker. Historically, the Quaker-Friends came on the scene with exceptional Christian spirituality and integrity. Others more pop up as individuals. Christianity, then, in the rough and tumble of the rise of Christian technological might overall using University-based philosophical scientific power by businesspeople types, was largely entering an animal phase. Biological impulses rolling like steamrollers. I think we need to get clear about that, because it´s not about guilt. It´s about human rights and sustainability, and oh yeah, "we" are out of control. Today and worldwide.
We need to learn from the Native Ams today to control and orient our inflamed psychocultural influenced selves to learning and sustainability. Native Ams have to insert themselves into our educational systems, where Christian integrity has been modernized and can be spiritualized.
The Pilgrim model has merit in its context, and when modernized appropriately. Modernization has been a b*tch. I´d say studying a lot of anthropology goes far, as Obama´s having an anthropologist mom kind of informally suggests. Juggling all the layers is a rewarding task in the end, that can help unite key indicators like Quaker-Friends and Unitarian Universalist interfaith, and the need for Native Ams to syncretize, not resent.
@@UncivilHistory factually youre trying to simplify something that cant be simplify sense during these times Indians were also doing horrible geocide of Europeans and Blaming diseases on just Europeans i a complete idiotic foolish state meant sense even Europeans were dying in mass from diseases just like Indians neither side has any understand of medicine or science or diseases
Pop culture and politics are filled with vicious gossip, its why for example people of Italian heritage are often called mafia as almost a reflex, or that Italian men always cheat on their wives. It isn't true, but its why of the 7th things God hates he calls "gossip/slander" an abomination!
0:23 you kick the ball into the ocean
Game over bih
There's always that one kid
@@Skus0 true
He got mad he got hit by the ball and kicked in the ocean.
That WEINER!!
Our son is.....
DUTCH!!!! Hahahaha
I woul disown my son if he would become dutch.
GOD DAMM DUTCH HOW DARE THEY
"Only a bloody Dutchman...."
My favourite part
He came out of the cheese closet!
Bit late to this but I always thank my mom for teaching me what really happened when I was 6 years old. Some people say I was too young but it’s important to let kids know the truth
Same
I actually used this video as part of teaching my 7yo the truth. We also discussed the murder of Wituwamat and how that's the first time that the Pilgrim leadership named "Thanksgiving" to a feast in celebration to his head being placed on a pike on their fort. The happy jolly harvest feast they shared with the Wampanoag in 1621 was a footnote compared to keeping the blood soaked clothes and head of murdered Pequot tribesmen as trophies and even used to decorate Governor Bradford's second wedding.
Off to go make some cutesy clothespin "Indians" now for his school project! 😖
Jesus brought the Pilgrims to America as the new promise land. Israel was long gone in 1620. Genesis 12. Matthew 21:43-44 and Jeremiah 31:31. The Pilgrims brought mulitiple merchant ships carrying supplies and paid them with European money. The Pilgrims enjoyed a nice first Thanksgiving with the Indians proving they were friends. The Indian wars didn't start until the British arrived, convincing the Indians to kill the settlers under false pretenses. The British chased defectors in America and attempted hostile takeovers many times.
@@void9837 let’s not go bible on this huh?
Theocracy was done away with after Old testament Israel. There is nothing in the bible about christians nation building because it says we are strangers in a strange land passing through. If you live for this world by it's standards then you are not truly following Christ. He expressly told his own disciples not to lord over anyone but we are to be like he was as a humble servant. God never forces Himself on anyone. Those who do are of Satan. It is all coming out now about the corrupt churches and the Catholic abomination. Truth is coming out whether you like it or not. Jesus said that all that is hidden will be made known. All the religious liars are being revealed. Jesus said that "ALL" the nations will mourn at the sign of His return. That means there are no christian nations. To contradict that is calling God a liar. Hypocrites better read the bible because they are in for a rude awakening.
I always knew Charlie Brown wasn’t telling everything.
imagine your shock when you find out Charlie Brown didnt tell the truth about Christmas either
@@KenMabie and how exactly was Christmas a lie in charlie brown?
Caleb Cooper Christmas was a pagan holiday
@@brackenscorner2292 oh i thought he was talking about the Santa and Merry parts of Christmas, and even though i think he is wrong i cant argue with what he thinks is fact and not.
Neither is this clown
Now I know why there’s so much arguing at my thanksgiving dinner.
Yep. It's because our country was built on an Indian burial ground of our own making. 🤷♂️
I had to get a restraining order against my sister because she attacked me at thanksgiving
N B yeah and it was ridiculous. She was getting into her car, drunk as a skunk, with my little niece and nephew and driving to her house an hour away (it was already midnight) so she attacked me, drank more to prove a point then drive off. I’m only 19, I would’ve thought the adults there would’ve cared more lol
@@XxSuperSuspiciousxX You must not have been thankful enough.
I always have to visit my folks every year in a full suit of riot gear.
Who agrees this should be in the next History class
I wish history class would've taught me this earlier because now I feel cheated and mildy disturbed.
it's so sad that the elites teach everyone who the good guy is and who the bad guy is. the murderers were good??
Did yall not learn the Natives got fucked? I mean. Thats what I learned in like 7th Grade in history.
Atra man that makes it even worse for me
danceballetacro I was taught we were huge psychopathic jerks and we shouldve been more like how France colonized
We are going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
That's right. We are going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
The native americans helped the settlers and we all know how that turned out for the native Americans.
The particular settlers in this instance, however, were cooperative and coexisted largely peacefully with the native Americans. It gets frustrating, then, when people attack the holiday celebrating the mutual coexistence of two cultures (however brief it was.) It is as if certain people believe that coexistence and acceptance is *not* virtuous.
Don't forget that the natives helped the settlers because of self-interest too... they needed their weapons to fight against rival tribes.
@@revolrz22
People attack the holiday because it's like when your "best friend" tries to get you to remember all the good times you all had together while glossing over or forgetting all the trouble he knows he caused you having those good times.
@@19Pyrus70 So the good times don't matter and shouldn't be held up as a moral standard to strive for in the future?
@@revolrz22
The complaint is that the good times are spotlighted to draw attention away from the bad times connected to them: That there is a disingenuous aspect to the way Thanksgiving Day is presented.
Doesn't mean that there's something wrong with what you're saying, just that others "...see through a glass darkly..." as the scripture goes.
As a native I don’t celebrate thanksgiving. However I’m so thankful and I’m made so happy to see how my other friends celebrate it. They gather with their friends and have friendsgivings, they see their families and connect with them, I think that’s beautiful. My ancestors have felt pain, and nothing can change that. But I’m glad that pain birthed love and friendship.
Finally, someone with a brain.
Thanksgiving to us ( indigenous folks ) is The Day Of Mourning 💯 always have been
@@kaaay0313 you are holding a grudge this doesnt affect you now. Stop playing victim
@@starsinthesky3053 So I guess Memorial Day and Veterans Day comes from a victim mentality too right?
@@hetdowsha2968 No , she is playing the victim in most of her comments because of race which is stupid
Squanto wasn’t the hero that we thought he was
yea, what a snake.
You can acknowledge and thank how he helped the early settlers and bridge an early divide, while at the same time acknowledging his greedy end (honestly though, can you blame a person who was abducted, brain-washed and had his people wiped out as he was sold into servitude?)
Saleucami Actually, I’m part Native American, but that’s not important. The point is that Squanto was manipulating both the colonists and neighboring tribes at the same time to benefit himself and himself only. That’s just evil.
Also, it’s not like the colonists intentionally killed his tribe. They didn’t realize they were spreading diseases that the Native Americans couldn’t survive. They were just trying to trade
Basically, Pre-Columbian North America was Game of Thrones recycled in North America.
He knew what was gonna happen and was indoctrinated...they told him to sell out his people by becomign there ruler..he tried...but we all know the europeans couldnt keep even one treaty so they came anyways and killed everyone..
Fast forward to 2019 and the English are complaining about immigration after everything they've done
The English in England stayed in England dipstick. If you want to complain about those who left go right ahead, but don't smear the innocent.
Rod Buchan that makes no sense what so ever
@@unknownfrvr6767 None of those in England today emigrated did they? By definition, they are not the colonisers. They, and their ancestors, have stayed in England, which gives them every right to complain about immigration
Rod Buchan there government committed plenty of war crimes not just this . They starved India , killing off 3 million people and making India broke
Rod Buchan to be honest even if they did complain it's not gonna do anything is it , we have already robbed the English of its culture , it's way too late anyway there country is gone 😂😂😂😂
History was generally less chill than you're made to think in elementary school. But if you have the right teacher, they can make this kind of thing fun, even when the truth is sort of depressing.
@@aisultanumar9152 they're sick a lot of these holidays are pagan holidays, this country is not for the so called "minorities" even though we're the ones who built this country, so them thinking this is ok as long as the truth is now out and recognized is because they were the one's who enslaved and destroyed our generations and people then took everything from us just like Puerto Rico and America which belonged to the "Native American's",
If u love pretty roses that come from the grown, at lest watch how it came to be before u believe what I see, diamonds were made from coals, America or Babylon was made by slaves, who are called natives, yet we own the land
@@lulphil4278 do you seriously believe people sit down on thanksgiving and celebrate the genocide of native Americans?
@@aisultanumar9152 when people sit down for thanksgiving they do not celebrate the genocide of Americans
@@lulphil4278
Amos 5:21-23
King James Version
21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.
22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts.
23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.
(Oh, and the blacks ((not African)), hispanics, and native Americans are the Holy Hebrew Israelites.
"Discourse on the Evidences of the American Indians Being the Descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel: Delivered Before the Mercantile Library Association, Clinton Hall"
Book by Mordecai Manuel Noah in 1837)
My teacher: ye they just had dinner.
Actual History: S l a v e s
@Frank DeFalco why did you keep commenting peoples comment with the same sentence lol
@Frank DeFalco just asking... XD
@Frank DeFalco nice tin foiled hat you have there
@Frank DeFalco The fact you literally believe a dinner happened is saying you forgot your tinfoil hat, are you a conspiracy theorist too
@Frank DeFalco tell me how you think it happened lol
missing the part where two turkeys go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
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Underrated comment
"Do your people even celebrate Thanksgiving?"
"We did. Once."
Jooooooohn Redcorn
We do I love thanksGiving
My grandpa loves making that joke
Genocideal Whites doing geneocide and introducing diseases.What's new? Karma gonna bite murica which was built on the bones of Native Americans. Funny how they are still called "Indians".
@@thegreatgatsby8180 You can’t even spell(Genocideal isn’t a word) You complain about the term “Indians” but yet you use Native Americans despite the fact America is named after Americo Vespucci, an Italian Explorer. You ignore the fact that most nations on this planet is build on the bones of others. You forget that if it was China , Korea, Japan, Mali, or Morocco the Natives would still be screwed by disease.
I can’t believe Squanto wanted to overthrow anyone, they always painted him as some angel
He was my favorite figure of the story!
No one is an angel. If we lived in Nazi Germany in 1941 we all more than likely would be doing the salute. A very small percentage would resist. Its the nature of humans to do evil.
Nathan Berg
Much like how people start screaming Nazis and beating people with bike locks think they're on the right side of history
@@NorthernWildOutdoors No its is not our nature to do evil, the people who murdered in the camps were evil, it is in our nature to be human, we survive, we create morals to support soceity but evil ? Truly evil ? Thats only an insignificant percentage.
Nothing beats good intentions you know.
We gonna fish... uh... idk how to fish... BUT WE GONNA FISH
No shit haha
FUCK YOU!!!!!
@@mercedenzee9234 well, that seemed a bit... Much
Sounds like white people
Bed Lamp except they did know how to fish, the video is wrong.
Where's the part where 2 turkeys went back in time to take Turkey off the menu? It can't be historically accurate if they didn't show the part where 2 turkeys went back in time to take Turkey off the menu.
That's right
It's not historically accurate if they don't show the part where 2 turkeys go back in time to the first Thanksgiving to take turkeys off the menu
That right the 2 turkeys are going back in time in the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
Imagine modern Americans getting behind a holiday of fasting and giving thanks. Good luck with that.
American Muslims do it for (29 or) 30 days every year.
@Brad Childress you're not very -smart- informed, are you? Educate yourself first then come talk about it.
Mormons do it the first Sunday of every month.
I'm sure the turkeys would love that.
truth seeker bitch not all Americans are fat as fuck Thanksgiving is just a time to eat food with your family and give thanks what's wrong with that
This should be the script for school thanksgiving plays
Haha right?! The real events are much more interesting than what children learn in schools.
@@UncivilHistory It would be difficult to trim, but worth the effort.
If you want to find some more "Native Americans" head on down to Mexico, Since they were driven out of the South.
Their decendants should also be respected as the natives of North America.
xpert" And some from the south came north, too.
Robert Aylor Yeah How the thanksgiving was peaceful and that years later the Indians attacked and broke their treaty
Imagine being wiped out on your own land
Everyone in the world, literally
nobody got wiped out. Im still here We are still here.
@@tesselaynes5428 He's talking about the natives
@@mecheeto1483 Nope.
Makarovic we’re still here and we will always live long as much as the Europeans wanted us dead.. shame on u demons
We're going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu. That's right, we're going back in time to get turkeys off the menu.
www,
Stealing from others and forcing ideas and beliefs on other people?
*Sounds exactly like my family’s Thanksgiving to me...*
Damn straight
Sounds like liberal colleges to me
@Cano the place their ancestors called sacred is now bulldozed and contaminated with oil. a once proud population of native Americans have been eradicated and systemically made poorer because of property laws that only favoured a certain race. today these white immigrants had the audacity to tell other people to "go back to their country" because they might bring "crime". But do tell me how triggered u feel because u dont want to own up to that reality. The past happened and we dont blame u. But when you want to pretend that the past didnt happen, we start to get suspicious as to why you want to do that.
@Sal Bass No...that would be Islam. The Crusades were a response to Muslim invasions of the Holy Land. Keep in mind, Muslims also invaded Europe, but were defeated by Charles "The Hammer" Martel at the Battle of Tours. He's one of my historical heroes.
Sal Bass Thats... extreme. You went to far there, singling out a majority of the population. Calling them all weak as if they are below you. I understand that religious people do this as well and complain about others being weak and then needing to join them because they are the superior group. But as someone that’s non-religious as well, I know that it’s people like you who give us a bad name.
4:17 he phases through a tree... (look at his arm)
Just like in history
Tis witchcraft!
Squanto was one of the Annunaki!
Hahaha😂😂😂
Who cares
We need series like this in Netflix :)
Ocelot Adam ruins everything?
@@MMArtsRock I like that show but sometimes he cant go in depth because of structure and the time limit
get RUclips red lmao
Yeah, don't we already have that guy ruining history?@@MMArtsRock
@@MMArtsRock fuck adam ruins everything he´s just ad bad as the myhts he busts
I think what this video forgot to mention they never ate Turkey at Thanksgiving, they instead ate Pizza thanks to the actions of 2 turkeys who went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
That’s right. They went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
OMG I CAUGHT THE REFERENCE. Person of culture from the ocean crab squad
Not true, it was hot chicken wings, and beer.
My mom said that there are a lot of lies in history books
Emma Isol There are many lies at school and main press and media. Text books etc.
What book are you reading my books have this recorded accurately.
Tour Mom is right
And she’s 100% correct why is this, because Politics gets involved and usually the winning side gets to write their own story. Common sense dictates there are Teo sides plus the truth somewhere in the middle. Here’s how you can tell what to believe the old adage “ actions speak louder than words “.
She's not wrong
lol, the Puritans fled their home country to avoid being suppressed because of their religion, so they came to North America to suppress others to their religion. oh the irony.
anyway, great story and animation. couldn't think of a better one even if i try to make it fictional.
That's probably why the bastards were suppressed in the first place. They're like the ISIS of the 1600's.
@@Timbo5000 jokes on them now Arabs will take over Europe.
@@hamed3423 Yeah 33 million foreigners will take over 731 million total population. Top kek.
The local fauna should have fought harder.
No. That's not what happened. They came to a new land and the inhabitants of that land were largely hostile. It's not that they intended to persecute others, it was either leave, risking death on the seas, then wherever they landed unwelcome or fight for their survival in a place where they already established a home, which meant annihilating their enemy. It's not like they didn't try to keep the peace. Ultimately, the Indians did not want them there. What were the puritans supposed to do? Stand there and get scalped? Leave?
They chose the lesser of two evils. Stay and fight. Protect their livelihood. Less risk of death that way.
Squanto, an absolute madlad!
@Matthew Lawton Quiet, heretic!
@@jakoda2514 lol
Today we call squanto a leftist
@Matthew Lawton turn round, guh gunk...*I'm in ya*
@@ogeredmon6665 Trump is your god.
We're going back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get Turkey's off the menu
That's right, we're going back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
That’s right, we’re going back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
I have a weird tradition where I watch this every thanks giving for the last 2 years
Thanks Uncivil History
Thanks Uncivil History
I have a weird tradition, where I watch Ninja Turtles cartoons while I trim my beard.
@@kristoZen that is also a good tradition
@@frozengansit0 Not when one is trimming his downstairs beard investing too much attention to the Turtles cartoon. Let's just say one has lost just over 10mm, and my courting device looks like it was made on a Minecraft server. Not to worry.
See ya thursday
So the “settlers” who were highly skilled seamen and had navigated around the planet for generations on ships did not know how to fish? Stop. 🤦🏽♂️
exactly
Well it's not like you were there and unless you were I wouldn't complain
Who said they were "highly skilled seamen"? They were just religious people looking for a new place to live. They hired a Ship captain with minimal crew. Who At first stayed but half the crew died and the Mayflower and remaining crew went back less than a year later.
LOL.........That doesn't make even a little sense!
Something is quite wrong there. I smell history lies.
The actual holiday was declared by Abraham Lincoln. The pilgrims are credited with the first harvest festival. The actual national thanksgiving holiday though comes from Abraham Lincoln in 1863. They partly wanted to use the holiday to be thankful for the victories they were having in the civil war.
Amen! Finally, someone speaking facts around here.
wish more people like you were posting videos
Jerry Carter Let’s review. The pilgrims escape persecution, then settle in unoccupied land cleared out by disease, then they barely survive in winter, then they form alliance with a tribe, then they peacefully celebrate and have what we call thanksgiving and spend time with our families, then years later the Indians attack pilgrims and break the treaty.
And for some reason people are still attacking thanksgiving? A bunch mental retards.
Planet Watcher On the thanksgiving day they all got along
The first Congress of the USA in 1789 passed the Bill of Rights and immediately after passed this first joint resolution of the House and Senate recorded in the Congressional Record for September 25, 1789. An official, national day of thanksgiving was at the very beginning of the American nation. It was a long standing custom in America just not a national holiday in the way we have them now.
"Resolved, That a joint committee of both Houses be directed to wait upon the President of the United States to request that he would recommend to the people of the United States a Day of Public Thanksgiving and Prayer. . . ."
I wonder if two chicken will go back in time to the First Thanksgiving to get turkey off the menu.
That's right. I wonder if two chicken will go back in time to the First Thanksgiving to get turkey off the menu.
I was disappointed to find out that in this video, they didn't mention two turkeys going back in time to the First Thanksgiving to get turkeys of the menu.
That's right, I was disappointed to find out that in this video, they didn't mention two turkeys going back in time to the First Thanksgiving to get turkeys of the menu.
What about the part where the pilgrims and Native Americans play a game of football after dinner
And watch a Twilight Zone marathon.
Don't call native Americans Indians that's really offensive indigenous people is better to say
TheEzmaGames It’s not offensive, it’s just incorrect.
Back in the days of the colonies, Europe had just discovered Asia, but they had only explored and interacted with people from India, so they assumed that the entire continent was also India. When Columbus discovered the Americas, he had thought he had sailed to India, so he addressed the people there as Indians.
I guess that the term just stuck around because of Columbus, but the word is outdated, because we now know that Native Americans are not from India and that India is not all of Asia.
@@aaronlandry3934 still ain't good to say now pal
TheEzmaGames ok my bad, I changed it
really good video!!! agendaless, concise, all without compromising accuracy.
Thank you! I am striving for neutrality; no political agenda needed in recounting history!
@Elie S. G. where did he say that Europeans "purposely" gave natives the diseases? Sounds like you're projecting.
Uncivil History I’m so glad that people like yourself are presenting early American history neutrally and from multiple sides. Being part Native American myself, I really appreciate a video that focuses on the actual history and not anti-white propaganda.
And so it was until 100 million + endigenous people were eliminated all over the Americas. . . .and counting.
@@exu7325 :45 Tradesmen introduced disease. By saying that the natives were trading with the Europeans for 100 years, then after being denied settlement tradesmen introduced disease is an indication of intent. That is why Elie is saying the video suggests it was on purpose. the general population did not have the knowledge to carry out any type of germ warfare.
This comment section is the funniest and saddest I have read in weeks. Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
Lotsa trolls around, too.
Just do both.
@@mr.uranium2195 Sounds like the sensible thing to do. *soblaughs*
Those crazy RUclips comments amiright?
Do both
We’re going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get the turkeys off the menu.
That’s right, we’re going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get the turkeys off the menu.
Can you repeat that?
Free bird reference? Lol
@@whisker.biscuit8149We’re going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
Humanity is filled with greed and it’s so sad how in return all these beautiful tribes and cultures are sacrificed in return
@@SprayCannon. still sad and happened tho
@@SprayCannon. It’s not over. Indigenous people still exist and are still fighting for the right to live on their native land.
@@zephire2628 that is certainly a pickle .
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 Indigenous Americans migrated to America in the early history of mankind. We dispersed throughout the continents and settled, establishing the hundreds of tribes and unique identities. As cultures and civilizations evolved, some would unfortunately wage war with each other, including territorial war, and partake in certain malefactions such as slavery. Sadly, it seems to be the natural course of mankind. It doesn’t erase the atrocities committed by the European colonizers nor the tragic effects they have had in shaping the modern world. Which empire are you referencing?
@@zephire2628 the empire of mankind.
No wonder why my teacher only went over the dinning part
@jack brandt look jack. The truth of today my not be the truth of tommorow. While that being said this video shows me a more deeper story of what happened that day ☺ but who said that I believed it all maybe most of it was true but who knows. School teach you what they want u to know. And I wrote that just because I thought it was funny not because I believed it all lol :)
Europeans: Sees land
"It's free real estate"
Akshat Wagadre well yea land if yours as long as you can defend it native Americans so it’s not there land it’s ours
eeveegaming4798 what do you mean by ours? I’m pretty sure you don’t own land. I’m pretty sure your renting so have a seat.
eeveegaming4798 so if I successfully stole and "defended" something that’s yours, would that make it mine?
a.bby44 It only works with countries- CONQUERING is ok but NOT persecuting the locals
@B0omer96 A good deal of Asia and Africa were colonized by Europeans, so there's that. Oh and then there's China. They're doing it alright. Politically and now by debt traps
I'm not american but I'm giving this video a thumbs up! The reason why I liked this video is because it's so unbiased unlike any other videos on youtube about this event and projecting hate to America.
This is exactly what I was taught in high school tho lmao. But King Phillip also had a big part in starting the war in 1675
I'm assuming you're the gentleman in the picture. Thank you for your service, sir.
not this in depth but same
Yeah I'm pretty sure everyone was taught this in school. I feel like anyone saying they're suprised at hearing this is trying to earn woke points.
@Frank DeFalco agreed.
I only watched cartoons since we didn't learn American history (I'm from Europe), so most people that are surprised probably learned from Disney and are upset that it wasn't accurate documentary 😂
They have been carrying around the bible for centuries and they still don’t have a connection with God.
Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Well considering the fact the Natives were literally killing, raping and kidnapping the European colonists, I think you can understand why it was a bit challenging to follow this. Try living in a world where you are in fear of your life every night. Welcome to the world Pre-1800, if you want a taste go live in Isreal by the Gaza Strip for a week.
Not saying Jesus was wrong, I'm saying Judge not lest ye be judged.
Aristotle discovered systematic reasoning about concrete reality. Jesus retreated into mystical fantasy and got crucified. You have your teacher and I have mine. Good luck, youre gonna need it. Carry a nail-puller.
@@TeaParty1776 Mine died for a cause facing his enemy like a man. Yours died from poopoo fleeing in fear.
Just saying! ;)
Not meaning to debate religion/philsophy just a historical friendly jab.
Why can't people read this without their ego telling them its just religious nonsense. It really is sad haha
And this is news? Jesus told us His followers were few. The Catholics teach salvation in spite of Christ. As for the Protestants, they were REFORMERS-- it wasn't their wish to divide Catholicism. As a result, they never fully obeyed Christ either. It's tough enough w/o entire institutions & their flocks bleating conformity to our ears. Sinners or backsliding, the results are the same. The wages of sin is death. The natural mind cannot understand the things of God because they are spiritually discerned. But we who have the mind of Christ discern all things. Judge/distinguish the tree by the fruit it bears. The battle really comes down to the children of darkness hating the children of Light.
Smile in your face bring you gifts but planning to take everything you have from the very start.
James James yes Americans are disgusting because of the actions of a few random British outcasts back in skyrim times
@@Riboflav1n Why didn't the native americans" Build that Wall".lol
@@andrewsansom2414 Don't you think they should have? Is this not a good example of how border security can protect from an invasion and cultural conversion by force?
Sounds like Satan
Repent for the kingdom of god is at hand
We're going back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
I got a "F" in history, now I see why!!!
If you think slanted junk like this is history, you'd still get an "F". How much did you learn about Thanksgiving Day exactly???
@@lifesourcelifeshare8 Big fat 0.....😪
ruclips.net/video/4o-u4Bsc7hs/видео.html
@@doubtfulclock9827 Shut up stupid!!! I got a F because I didn't give a F@#%!
@@lifesourcelifeshare8 I learned to fill my plate 3 or 4 times with food, and never put the remote down!
The most upsetting part was near the end where they talked about how their culture was erased and replaced by force. Killing a man and taking his shit is one thing, but erasing his identity is horrible beyond the pale.
It wasn't replaced by force. It said that because of capitalistic opportunities, Europeans and their culture quickly outnumbered the Natives. As it would turn out, a number of colonies were founded on the principles of religious liberty.
Yeah it was ^ boarding schools
gally turndrop when the united states government kidnapped my great grandfather away from his apache parents, they forced him into a school designed to make everything about his people bad and everything about the country that kidnapped him great. Literal brain washing. As for his parents, if they werent also sterilized they wouldve been moved to a reservation (inhospitable useless land) where just to survive they would’ve had to have given up what was left of their culture.
Danny D what the fuck are you talking about? You are the ones doing the brain washing. The united states and most european countries are held up by lies
@@MasterKeyMagic, it's tragic that your GGFather was stolen from his parents and their culture, language, and thousands of years of history were erased. Like many americans, my ancestors were mostly immigrants. I'm sad, and angry that I know so very little about my Grandmother, she died young in her 20's. She was a "half-breed" Cherokee woman in Oklahoma, had at least 8 kids by 2 husbands. Her first "marriage" would have been when she was no older than 12, perhaps younger. I know very little about her, but my Great-Grandparents on my Dad's side of the family came from Germany in the 1880's. We know a lot about this part of the family, there are records, photos, documents. The family home is still in the family after over 130 years. I don't have that kind of connection to my "half-breed" Grandmother, who died @1929. It was considered shameful to have "savage" blood, so even if there were records and photos, they didn't survive. I'm lucky that my Mother told me about my Grandmother, all she could remember because she became an orphan at 11.
They all ate cheese pizza at the end.
Hahaha free birds
The kids had a separate table
I read somewhere that the Europeans started to kill the natives because one of them put pineapple on one of the pizza's.
Is that from a movie?
Nice reference
But I thought they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu, that’s right they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu!
That’s right! This person though they went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu!
@@angryboi595 I know right, can't believe I they went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the nenu
They killed them all, and set a festival mocking at them?
THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE
GGGrraus I’m so confused
Mocking??? It's Thanksgiving...a day to give thanks for what we have...to meet with our loved ones and enjoy a good meal. Celebrate it however you wish, but it's a great holiday that is underrated I think.
Christian Farkas can't say you're wrong, it's just a different position to look at the history.
@@gggrraus9827 I'm confused by the video? What part of thanksgiving is wrong? what's with the "what really happened"? This video basically told the story of thanksgiving, that everyone already agreed with. Can someone please explain this to me....
@@bobross4616 genocide
Thanksgiving is a celebration of what took place at a particular point in history not the atrocities that took place 60 years later.... It is a reminder that we can always go back to the way it was before the atrocities.... The sharing the carrying the putting away of our racist hate and indifference.
Pointing out all of the horrible things we did to each other years later is a good thing and helps us keep our perspective but canceling the celebration today and the reminder of the good times and that we could have them again is a very bad thing.
It is a mocking to what really happened
Pure Paganism
@@woodsierharpy7875
You can't possibly be serious.... Pleas explain your position... Give book chapter and verse backing up your statement.
No one is trying to cancel thanksgiving. Just the BS fairytale of it.
@@chrisperez7039
*"No one is trying to cancel thanksgiving."*
Really? Could have fooled me.... Or are they fooling you?
Wake up and smell the coffee.....
People are like "wow history books are a lie" idk what schools y'all went to but I was taught this video is exactly what happened.
Same once I hit middle school my teachers stopped sugar coating history.
In elementary school is was a complete lie, in high school though all the teachers want is for you to know what actually happened
@the dude yours was better, wiser, and way doper!😀👌
@@qweadd6987 there were good people in there for sure. But most of the kids were degenerates. A lot of them ended up in jail or dead. Such is the way with those people
@@iloveindianationalhockeyte4621 white people have done the most good I believe. But that doesn't go to say we haven't had our share of screw ups. I would not want to live in a world run by a bunch of sub saharans.
Great video. I have to say I really appreciate the attention to detail in the animation.
as i get older i find history far more interesting and insightful. perhaps we need to change how it is represented in schools?
I think times are changing to reflect that, I am 25 years old and when I was in highschool/college this is basically exactly what we were taught in Massachusetts. We have some of the best schooling in the country so it shouldn't be surprising, but I am always surprised that other kids did not get these lessons in school.
Absolutely! In kindergarten I wore a headdress for Thanksgiving (some kids were assigned pilgrims) and I cringe at how that was the school's idea of teaching the topic
These schools will never teach the real truth.
@@MegaChipEater123 That's because every state has their. own laws and ways of teaching. Some schools are more educated then others . I wonder why😗
No, this is someone's opinion on what happened, it is not an accurate painting of the truth and is highly biased. Please keep biased changed history meant to demonize one specific race (white people) out of schools, it's too dystopian for America.
Yes, the settlers did a lot of mean things to the natives. However, some of the natives were no different; they had a history of conquering other tribes and taking them as slaves.
Interesting, do you have an historical names and places to backup your account of History?
@@jonathonmccue7271 You can, idk, look it up? Its common.
Theres a differnece between "earn your place in my tribe" and "work til you die"
@moptop guap
"Not strong or clever enough to kill the Natives"? 90% of the Natives died just by getting sneezed on. Lmao
@moptop guap
"Not strong or clever enough to kill the Natives"? 90% of the Natives died just by getting sneezed on. Lmao
Do you see a pattern of almost every colony having food shortages from their lack of preparation or survival skills, even by settlers' standards?
Jamestown (Gold digging, but little food), Roanoke (implications of mass desertion to nearby tribes due to lack of food), and *sigh* for some reason, Jamestown settlers not having fishing skills despite planning to make a fishing colony.
I did, amazing!!! Living off the land, can;t beat it. I like your observation..
And then people claim that they brought civilisation.
I know, and imagine knowing the land, thousands of years of a head start, and still not being organized enough, strong enough, smart enough or advanced enough to fend off such incompetent colonies. No wonder so many early English settlers spoke of Providence and of God on their side...their ability to win over and over despite their disadvantages makes it seem like "God", whatever force that exists, was clearly on their side and assisting them and smiting their enemies. God is surely a white man if he exists at all because he sure seems to make whites win a lot and everyone else lose.
@@danepotmo2513 Can't this be said for all religions where one race is extremely dominant compared to others with the same religion. Like, if successful Muslims were all Middle Eastern, would that make Allah Arabian?
They thought God was gonna help them. :D
Wait.. where are the 2 turkeys that went back in time to get turkeys OFF the menu, Thats right, where are the the turkeys that went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu?
What's most tragic for me was that Edward Winslow and Massasoit grew to become friends, with Edward slowly changing his view of Massasoit being a savage. For a time, there was actual peace, even friendship to an extent. Sadly all good things come to an end
That is very good to know, thank you....
While we know that most all peoples (individuals as well as nations) have a varied history with good & bad & even unspeakable tragedies, it is good to mourn the mistakes & failings of others. (as well as our own) And even better than not perpetuating that which is wrong; is to hold onto those things which are good, make for peace between peoples, & inspire us all to be better... As you have done in showing us the value of a friendship that bridged the gaps between people in vastly differing cultures. I'm sure there were other examples of friendship & good that we could all be encouraged by. I have read some myself in my search for the truth in our history.
"In the middle of the street,and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." Revelation 22:2
Part of John's vision of eternity with our Creator God...
And then they both died, screwing everything up those selfish bastards (joking about the selfish bastard part)
fun
Metacomet was no fan of English unlike his bro-bro.
can we just appreciate how this dude cites his sources, unlike a lot of other historian youtubers
the same thing of what french european settlers did in quebec when it was claimed by jacques cartier in the name of the french monarchy and king for france's colonization and settlement of the french europeans in north america, they also did a number of massacres like the lachine massacre, my mom who is a french canadian used to tell me these stories when i was young because her ancestors we're french colonist settlers in north america from france
Terry Nonezugain Cloutier Masangkay and the rest of the people in this comments section need to go read War before civilization.
@@jamesmchernry7759 it's not recommended
He still presents the information in a half-lie manner with extreme bias. This is not educational, it's propaganda with some historical facts misrepresented.
@@b.ballooon9225 Trying really hard to discredit this a? Hitting up every comment with the same reply "Its biased!" lol STFU You know nothing Jon Snow!
Pretty much the same story great grandma ( dads moms side)used to tell at Thanksgiving. Her side of the family came over on the Mayflower. She had this small cherry wood table that had been passed down that came over in 1620. It always fascinated me when I was a kid. Dads side came over in 1637 and founded Essex Ma.
I’m Native American, Shoshone Bannock and Sioux, I live on my reservation. It sucks because our ancestors had the language and culture beat out of them in those schools they were put in later. All of my elders in my family that were very traditional had now passed away. We still hold plenty of tradition and sacred lands close to us, but many people aren’t fluent in our language, same with me. I genuinely am sad about this, but everything evolves and changes eventually.
Slava Orbánovi! Slava Nazi!
That’s right. He/she is pretty much it’s the same story his/her grandma ( dads moms side)used to tell at Thanksgiving. Her grandmother side of the family came over on the Mayflower. She had this small cherry wood table that had been passed down that came over in 1620. It always fascinated him/her when he/she was a kid. Dads side came over in 1637 and founded Essex Ma.
@@antonioferrari241 Okay, aside from copy and paste, what's your point?
She was cappin
Nothing to brag about. And I highly doubt anyone in your family founded anything--people LIVED there before them. Did you watch the video at all? You got nothing out of it. The land was POPULATED before your ancestors invaded.
Thanksgiving is about gratitude. Being thankful.
You are a filthy trashy thats what you are
It just goes to show,that the origins of many historical events (in this case the first Thanksgiving) are much darker than what they teach you in school.
You probably shouldn't get your history lessons from RUclips either.
History is written by the winners, not loosers. Kind of hard to get the information right nowadays
Linh Nguyen
Because there are a lot of mistakes. For example, there is no evidence of a “First Thanksgiving”. Moreover, King James didn’t want the separatists to go to Virginia (where they missed) and they relied on a merchant group.
This video is exactly how I was taught thanksgiving my freshman year idk what u guys r talking about
The Commenter Brony I knew school and belief structure always been full of s*** even when I was 4 year's old
Think of all the lies we were taught and believed in school...…...dam ! !
I'm confused by the video? What part of thanksgiving is wrong? what's with the "what really happened"? This video basically told the story of thanksgiving, that everyone already agreed with. Can someone please explain this to me....
In one of the colonies Thanksgiving was celebrated as we know it, but in another colony it took a sinister turn of death for their invited Indian guest. In school, we were just taught the "good" part, not the other. Like with Custer or say Jefferson@@bobross4616
@@cierakitty Ah. But technically they never lied, right? They just, never added in an important detail...
Bob ross that’s literally what lying means... 🤦♀️
@@raliixaviero4674 Did they ever tell anything untruthful? No. Did they leave out something that happened later, that they should've added? Yes. Maybe don't use the word "literally", it appears to be misused a lot...
I feel so bad for the Native Americans😔
Edit: lol the whole reply section is so freaking salty.
Go learn about and make friends with your local tribes then. Hundreds of native cultures still exist and many are thriving. If you want to show respect and honour, guilt is not the way to do it. Learn their languages and cultures, support native businesses.
I hate it too but it was inevitable
@@gavinmccormick3658 name three tribes that are "thriving". From what I can tell, pretty much all of the tribes are still healing from the wounds of the past. They're in bad shape, and it's one of the world's greatest tragedies
Same, wish that Thanksgiving attitude lasted longer.
they are the most ostracized people group in north america. they are living in poverty and disrespected by society. :*( this should not be
Dale Gribble- Hey do you people even celebrate Thanksgiving?
John Redcorn- We did....once....
You're also forgetting that prior to the thanksgiving the settlers were asked to help fend off a waring tribe that killed the men and raped the women of the weaker smaller tribe, in helping them, the tribe repaid by helping the settlers survive the winter. I know this doesn't help one bit with wanting to keep up white guilt but that part should be told too.
Exactly.
Anything that doesn't demonize white people wont' be covered by SJWs like this, they've gone full racist/hate-filled and ethno-nationalist at this point.
@@b.ballooon9225 Everybody already knows you racist idiots did plenty of evil 😂
@@trademarktaz You're being racist right now. How do you not see that? Seriously, this has to be a joke from the Onion. By calling me a "racist idiot" and blaming me for actions EVERY RACE HAS DONE, you're being a racist. You're doing what a certain German man did to a group of people in the early 1930s, he started by demonizing their history. You're doing that same thing now, and using it as an argument against me. That's pure racist hatred. You should re-think your views. Stop the cycle you racist, stop continuing the hatred and blaming people for things every group has done.
@@trademarktaz I hate to break this to you but all races has committed plenty of evil. Not sure what your race is but no matter what it is I can give you a list of the atrocities it has done throughout history. Your targeted racism is duly noted.
people leave such comments because of the political climate try not to take it personaly.
Amen! I did not see any bias in this video. It was the same story I was taught in school.
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Me like video
Video wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Prince Nixon it's not anti white, it's history you cretin
Wow, similarly they did this with India too. They still have missionaries too.
No wonder many Indians converted to Islam
Happy holidays everyone ❤️🌎
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I made this to lift people’s spirits
Sad thing, the same history happened in South America !
My tribesmen in India was converted into Christian during the British rule.
@anonymous boy25 -Good point. And my thought: Religion & true Christianity are not the same thing. Many attrocities have been committed in the name of religion which the true God had nothing to do with & condemns.
I wish we could have a high-budget series made about the true story. Not only is it fascinating, we could finally set the record straight and stop lying to ourselves.
*"OUR SON IS DUTCH!"*
"MOM LISTEN, I HAVE A PLAN, WE JUST NEED MORE MONEY, HAVE SOME FAITH! WE'RE GOING TO TAHITI BOYS!"
"I JUST NEED MORE TIME, STOP DOUBTING ME!"
Let's keep these comments relevant all 2019 lol
I INSIST YOU TO GET SOME TURKEY!
*InsIsT?!*
As long as it doesn’t involve a train, I’m in.
Can someone explain the joke?
Who’s watching at 2019 thanksgiving?
Jake Driscoll
Me. Im learning a lot about my ancestors glory
Me
A lot of this is bullshit, dude didn't use many sources I can tell
Pardon me, *conflicting sources
Yup
Was expecting a horror story, but really glad that feast actually happened without the rest of the horror part. Really entertaining animation, my son is Dutch made my day.
bingo
The feast didnt happen, this story doesnt tell the whole truth
So you didn't want to hear the actual truth?
This reminded me of when they went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys OFF the menu.
Thats right, This reminded me of when they went back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys OFF the menu.
0:25 he probably kicked that ball to the moon
lol
It was a ship wrecked Frenchman, who introduced the disease that killed the natives. Good history!
exactly. this was a bit early for germ warfare. a lot of them also got sick from animals.
Make Your Mark
Zombie apocalypse 🤮
Majority of them got wiped out by diseases from horses and other domesticated animals
It doesn't matter. The real story is that the native Americans were an isolated group and had been for thousands of years. As such their immune systems had never been exposed to the pathogens the Europeans had. This means they had evolved no resistance whatsoever. Any time a group is isolated, their genetic diversity disappears. As long as nothing ever changes in their isolated environment they might be okay. However, as soon as something new is introduced, they're doomed to succumb to it. It's all part of natural selection and evolution. Isolation is bad and will eventually kill you. That's the real moral of the story here!
Curtis Jordan But as long as the Indians we’re on this land they wasn’t dying from animals or diseases until the “Settlers” appeared. The same way they are able to drop a bomb that was “man made” to wipe out us all (while the higher power escapes to higher ground) “the moon” and leave us all behind who doesn’t matter. I’m not finding it hard to believe that a disease was plotted and put into action to wipe out the native Indians. But to each it’s own that’s my opinion 🤷🏽♀️
The Plymouth people were not Puritans.
Puritans remained as members of the Church of England but were constantly trying to get the Church to become much stricter and institute laws based on the Bible. This made them unpopular with the rest of the Anglicans. They eventually left England and set up a very well funded colony in Massachusetts Bay. They were so strict and intolerant that several other colonies were set up by people trying to get away from them.
The Plymouth colony (commonly called Pilgrims) were Separatists. They wanted to leave the Church of England and start their own church. This was basically illegal and they suffered persecution as a result. Their expedition was much earlier and not as well funded (hence the terrible death rate). They included people who were not members of their church as part of the colony.
We're going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu. That's right, we're going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu.
"For 40 years the two peoples lived alongside one another in a state of peace, and even amity. Inevitably personal conflicts flared from time to time, but they were effectively contained and resolved on their own terms; they did not lead on to larger difficulties. This whole fortunate situation depended partly on the personal influence of the leaders of each group, and partly on considerations of geography. As long as Bradford and Massasoit were shaping policy, and as long as there was ample space for both communities, friendship continued. But after 1660 there was a change on both counts. The growing population of the Colony created powerful pressures for further expansion; and the General Court responded by allowing some new settlement nearer than ever before to the Wampanoag lands at Mount Hope. This meant increased contact between the two peoples, and a higher level of quarrels over such things as title boundaries and errant livestock. Meanwhile Bradford had died in 1657, and Massasoit in 1660, and the new leaders on both sides, while surely not eager for conflict, were less deeply committed to ways of peace. The pattern of developments in the years that followed as variable and complex, but the overall trend of Indian-settler relations was unmistakably downhill. The end result was the single most traumatic event in the whole history of the Old Colony, the waging of King Philip's War. Philip was the younger son of Massasoit who had come to the chieftainship of the Wampanoags in 1662; and it was he who opened direct hostilities with an attack on the town of Swansea in June, 1675." -"A Little Commonwealth, Family Life in Plymouth Colony" by John Demos, pp 14-16.
Moral of the story, always makes sure you good leaders are immortalized into a computer
Yeah, but that doesn't fit the narrative. It's also interesting that they don't mention that the diseases were spread previously by traders by accident, not on purpose. Plus, I'm not sure but if Squanto was taken to Spain to be sold, it was probably by the Spanish who are no more Pilgrims or even English then they are Indian or Russian for that matter. It was English monks I believe who rescued Squanto and an Englishman who arranged to send him back to America, so other than establishing a colony, the English seem reasonably blameless until many years later when they expanded as your post points out. So I don't see how any of the facts contradict the traditional story of Thanksgiving.
I was told by a Wompanoag that the first so called Thanksgiving was a massacre of Natives.
I was taught that too in university.
It's true, and that's why me and my family stop celebrating Thanksgiving years and years ago.
That's why i am looking to see any video talking about it to see if it's true or not, but can't find anything so far.
@@pinkskincanthandlethesunli6508: Don't stop there, All holidays have a very corrupt history. Celebrate nothing!!!!
@@crystalr5223 Oh trust me Queen, i don't celebrate any PINK pagan holidays.
"Ninnimissinuog" is the correct way to say it, and it means "My Relatives," Missin is a 'regular person,' but really a 'relative.' That's Nipmuk, by the way. But this is a truer telling than has been told before. Thanks for bringing out the Native voice.
You are most welcome! Thank you so much for your constructive comment, it is most appreciated. I am honored that I can do my part in telling this tale.
They went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu!
I can forgive and forget, but I can’t speak for my ancestors
The problem is the white man is still doing the same shit in this modern era ... no difference if they are not held accountable they will never change.
WhITe mAn bAd
@@toring61_52 Everything among the Natives was peace and love before the Europeans arrived? All of the Natives settled all of their differences peacefully? No war? No crime? What a Utopia the continent must've been before the Europeans came and introduced the concepts of war and murder and kidnapping. You see, it's like peeling back an onion...there are layers to the story...the "Pilgrims" were not the timid persecuted people we were told they were in grade school. But the Natives were not the noble peace-seekers trying to make friends with their new neighbors. The Natives wanted guns and other technology in order to defeat their neighbors. The Europeans wanted land. But the problem with making deals with a group of people with far-advanced technology...in the long run...you will lose. Technology always wins over brute force.
stazang You can only hold the white men responsible if they actually had a hand in it. If they support racism now, call them out, but if you hold all white people accountable for actions that were neither their own nor support, then you yourself are being racist.
@@-BarelyBreathing- you too
Gee golly gosh, I wonder why this version was never taught in school? I can’t imagine why?
@Noise Pollution so....the truth
I didn't learn this until college
Because this expose the whites as the bad guys.
Because they wanted ppl to celebrate something knowing it was bad cus they are racist, btw same thing happened to me
They never say truth and they know how they have done in past
I liked your animation work there!
Thank you! And thanks for the kind comment :)
Wait this animation is incredible, how is this channel not bigger?
So much effort put into the animation Jesus
Haha yes...so much.
@@ewartlambert fuck you
If only they did that with Berserk.... yup, I went there
@@armanram8512 agreed😂
....Jesus didn't do it.