Excellent results! It’s nice to see the details of the prep work done properly as that’s where so many unscrupulous Cerrakote applicators tend to fail.
I am so happy the Cerakote guy I went with knows his stuff when it comes to this. Shoutout to Silicon Valley Cerakote and Laser. I had them coat my competition gun. It sees alot of use and abuse and the job still looks great with minimal wear after months of use. It required alot of hand manipulation to wear in correctly as my gun was a tight tolerance gun but after an evening of doing that alls been well
Impressive! I have been considering having an older gun cerakoted, but wondered about the process and durability. I'm not so sure I trust someone who's a gunsmith, to also be good at refinishing a gun. Especially to this level. That's an entirely different skill altogether. Media blasting, cleaning, baking, handling, and even applying the coating in a way that looks good.
Currently in Gunsmithing school. We learn the entire processs and have the opportunity to go to cerakote to be certified. (I did) Gunsmithing is anything and everything to do w firearms.
@justinscott7492 understood. I'm still looking at this based on previous gunsmith encounters that are self-taught in refinishing. I'm certain they have not seen a professional media blasting cabinet nor the finish application spray booth and all that goes with it. They hide it very well if they do. Just my personal experiences. To me, they are few and far apart that take refinishing guns to that level. I've yet to see one.
@ done 3 refinishes so fsr...re blued the metal, and refinished the wood, steaming out dents, sanding, restaining....the works. If your gunsmith is school trained, they know how to refinish.
The FFL is needed because you are technically changing the firearm. Also, if the firearm stays in the coaters possession for more than 24 hrs it is supposed to be logged
@@TigerCreekFarm Thats why I do the work needed in a single day. For people I know. I dont have it for more than 24 hours, no need for an FFL. Why would you need an FFL to change a firearm color? Or a trigger, or barrel, or grips.
As per the ATF - you need an FFL to take in guns for repair, modification, or other work. Cerakote is considered modification. ATF showed up in my area (with a surprise compliance visit to my shop) and was issuing cease and desist orders for what you are doing. It doesn't matter how I "feel" about it as long as the ATF has the power to enforce their rules. I need to stay in the good graces of the ATF so I abide by their wishes - like it or not.
@TigerCreekFarm my understanding was that i only need to book the gun if it stays in my possession overnight, or if the client leaves. If the client stays while I do the work, no need for paperwork. I will inquire of my local office again to verify.
My previous point was about the need for an FFL to Cerakote for other people. You are correct about logging if it stays apart from the owner overnight.
I think it’s kind of ridiculous to login someone’s information for the ATF just to have a slide cerakoted. Seems like tyrannical overreach for a registry.
To be clear - the only items that need to be logged are complete firearms, lower assemblies with a firing mechanism and class 3 items. Slides, barrels, grips, hardware, etc do not need to be logged. Logbooks stay with the FFL holder so there is no central registry with all of this information - but ATF can collect your books if a crime is committed.
@@TigerCreekFarm first, a lower does not need to be "an assembly" with a "firing mechanism" to need to be logged. It just needs to be a serialized part that is considered a firearm, can be stripped as stripped can be and it is still a firearm that needs to be logged in. second, ATF ABSOLUTELY gets your books when you go out of business, they are there for the ATF to inspect whenever they would like while in business, and surrendered when you decide to no longer keep your FFL. Those books all then go to - you guessed it, a central registry (in WV, right now some computerized and a bunch in shipping containers that aren't entered yet)
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Excellent results! It’s nice to see the details of the prep work done properly as that’s where so many unscrupulous Cerrakote applicators tend to fail.
I am so happy the Cerakote guy I went with knows his stuff when it comes to this. Shoutout to Silicon Valley Cerakote and Laser. I had them coat my competition gun. It sees alot of use and abuse and the job still looks great with minimal wear after months of use.
It required alot of hand manipulation to wear in correctly as my gun was a tight tolerance gun but after an evening of doing that alls been well
Impressive! I have been considering having an older gun cerakoted, but wondered about the process and durability. I'm not so sure I trust someone who's a gunsmith, to also be good at refinishing a gun. Especially to this level. That's an entirely different skill altogether. Media blasting, cleaning, baking, handling, and even applying the coating in a way that looks good.
Currently in Gunsmithing school. We learn the entire processs and have the opportunity to go to cerakote to be certified. (I did) Gunsmithing is anything and everything to do w firearms.
@@justinscott7492 yeah, I'd trust a gunsmith to paint long before I'd trust a painter to assemble my gun.
@Axlnut0341 no doubt, lol. However, I'm saying to refinish, not disassemble and reassemble.
@justinscott7492 understood. I'm still looking at this based on previous gunsmith encounters that are self-taught in refinishing. I'm certain they have not seen a professional media blasting cabinet nor the finish application spray booth and all that goes with it. They hide it very well if they do. Just my personal experiences.
To me, they are few and far apart that take refinishing guns to that level. I've yet to see one.
@ done 3 refinishes so fsr...re blued the metal, and refinished the wood, steaming out dents, sanding, restaining....the works. If your gunsmith is school trained, they know how to refinish.
Single day Cerakote, While You Wait!! No FFL needed.
The FFL is needed because you are technically changing the firearm. Also, if the firearm stays in the coaters possession for more than 24 hrs it is supposed to be logged
@@TigerCreekFarm Thats why I do the work needed in a single day. For people I know. I dont have it for more than 24 hours, no need for an FFL.
Why would you need an FFL to change a firearm color? Or a trigger, or barrel, or grips.
As per the ATF - you need an FFL to take in guns for repair, modification, or other work. Cerakote is considered modification. ATF showed up in my area (with a surprise compliance visit to my shop) and was issuing cease and desist orders for what you are doing. It doesn't matter how I "feel" about it as long as the ATF has the power to enforce their rules. I need to stay in the good graces of the ATF so I abide by their wishes - like it or not.
@TigerCreekFarm my understanding was that i only need to book the gun if it stays in my possession overnight, or if the client leaves. If the client stays while I do the work, no need for paperwork.
I will inquire of my local office again to verify.
My previous point was about the need for an FFL to Cerakote for other people. You are correct about logging if it stays apart from the owner overnight.
I think it’s kind of ridiculous to login someone’s information
for the ATF just to have a slide cerakoted.
Seems like tyrannical overreach for a registry.
To be clear - the only items that need to be logged are complete firearms, lower assemblies with a firing mechanism and class 3 items. Slides, barrels, grips, hardware, etc do not need to be logged. Logbooks stay with the FFL holder so there is no central registry with all of this information - but ATF can collect your books if a crime is committed.
@@TigerCreekFarm first, a lower does not need to be "an assembly" with a "firing mechanism" to need to be logged. It just needs to be a serialized part that is considered a firearm, can be stripped as stripped can be and it is still a firearm that needs to be logged in.
second, ATF ABSOLUTELY gets your books when you go out of business, they are there for the ATF to inspect whenever they would like while in business, and surrendered when you decide to no longer keep your FFL. Those books all then go to - you guessed it, a central registry (in WV, right now some computerized and a bunch in shipping containers that aren't entered yet)
No one said the ATF isn't ridiculous....