Widex Evoke Hearing Aid Review | First Hearing Aid with Machine Learning

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @adamdippel1702
    @adamdippel1702 5 лет назад +8

    I just got my first set of Widex Evoke F2 440s and I'm so impressed! I'm a Live Sound professional and I wasn't expecting to be able to use hearing aids accurately in a loud music environment. But the Evokes sound amazing! The streaming audio quality through the com dex doesn't compare to the Phonak Marvel, but that's not what hearing aids are made for... Speech understanding is phenomenonal and the soundsense processing is quick and accurate. I hate taking them off....... 5 stars from me.

    • @ColorMatching
      @ColorMatching 5 лет назад

      Would you say the Evokes sound better than the Marvels?

    • @arthuralzamora7331
      @arthuralzamora7331 5 лет назад

      I play guitar in a band & we don’t play very loud, I have a problem hearing what everyone is playing, when I use my older widex HA, they help. I’m planning on a new set. From what your saying the Widex Evoke 440’s will do the job.

  • @miroslavscherkl3533
    @miroslavscherkl3533 5 лет назад +1

    I am a happy Widex Evoke F2 user. SoundSense Adapt really saved me several times. I found myself preferring different hearing aid adjustments in different locations. These are the best aids I’ve ever had.

  • @cnicklo
    @cnicklo 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for your review. I’m a really happy Evoke 440 user. Love the quality of sound that I get, especially with music, and SoundSense Learn gives me so much more in-the-moment control, if needed, than I can get with any other brand.

    • @laurau1778
      @laurau1778 5 лет назад

      Chris Nicklo thanks for posting. I’ll be trying these next.

    • @dani26acyt
      @dani26acyt 5 лет назад

      Chris Nicklo Hi Chris, I'm in 5 day free trial of the Evoke 440 and I can get good quality sound, it sounds like robotic voices. Do you think that might change over time? (I had SSHL and that left me with audio distortion as well). Also, I can't find all the 11 programs that are mentiones in this video, do I have to do something? thank you for your help.

  • @BorisMoore1
    @BorisMoore1 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for your excellent videos. I am currently testing a pair of Widex Evokes, for a week. But one concern is that when I specifically asked the audiologist if she did REM for the Evokes, she said that for the Widex Evoke it was not necessary, since the hearing aid had built-in functions that can be used instead of REM. I'm guessing you would disagree, but wanted to check. If REM is indeed important, then I will have to figure out whether I can find another audiologist that sells Widex, with REM....

  • @norriseaton3539
    @norriseaton3539 5 лет назад +2

    Hi Dr. Cliff. Your reviews are awesome. I am test driving the Widex Evoke - I can hear the birds again! But there is one serious problem. In both the "Universal" and "Music" mode, there is a significant steady white noise in the background. It sounds like the steady drone of highway traffic in the distance, or steam venting from an industrial plant, or possibly the Zen noise feature. Is this normal? Could it be that the Zen noise option was mistakenly programmed to be "on" and in the background (the Zen feature does not show on the app)? Perhaps other viewers have had a similar problem and have found the solution? Thanks in advance.

  • @djriki0
    @djriki0 4 года назад

    Does 220 or 330 versions 15 adjustment handles too? (7:09) thanks

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  4 года назад

      No, they decreased to 12 with the 330s and 10 with the 220s

  • @pranavp8023
    @pranavp8023 2 года назад

    Is it worth buying if I’ve SNHL ??

  • @charleshdailey480
    @charleshdailey480 2 года назад

    As a hearing aid wearer for over 25 years diagnosed with Meniere's Disease, I would be particularly interested in hearing what Dr. Cliff has to say about the peculiar challenges Meniere's presents for hearing aid development and use. These include the almost day-to-day variability of hearing loss coupled with Tinnitus and speech discrimination. Widex has been the only company that I have been able to locate that actually did research into this using their applications. I wonder if their latest products reflect that research (I currently use Starky Livio products (my third set / brand of hearing aids) which could steer me towards them as my next set of hearing aids.

  • @parthpandya5631
    @parthpandya5631 5 лет назад +1

    whether widex has two version of evoke one with telecoil(notched battery door) and other(flatten battery door) without it? pls clarify as i seen it in user instruction bun not able to find difference

  • @annmariegehr1949
    @annmariegehr1949 4 года назад

    I need supplies for my wider hearing aids who do I go to ?

  • @evettejohnson1180
    @evettejohnson1180 9 месяцев назад

    Hello Dr Olson for some reason Sound Sense learn won’t save my changes. It says save but then the screen changes before I can rename it. What am I doing wrong? I’m using the Widex Evoke 440. Thanks

  • @iceman123371
    @iceman123371 Год назад

    Dr. Cliff I'm considering the Widex HA's configured in Bi_CROS for my SSD in my right ear. Can any of the Widex HA product line support BI-CROS, or only certain models? I have already purchased a brand new WIDEX CROS-FS BTE/RIC for my right ear.

  • @kellyw1648
    @kellyw1648 5 лет назад +1

    WIdex lithium ion rechargeable batteries are supposed to be available in Feb. or March of 2020.

  • @XBloodsmileX
    @XBloodsmileX 4 года назад

    Are the phone app’s interchangeable with other devices?

  • @123gorainy
    @123gorainy 5 лет назад

    What if you are someplace where your iPhone cannot connect to the Internet?? What happens then?

  • @jackmortimer329
    @jackmortimer329 5 лет назад +1

    Dr. Olson, You again mentioned the streaming problem with Android devices. I thought Bluetooth was Bluetooth. What is the technological difference between the Bluetooth in an Android device and that in the Apple devices?

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад +1

      Bluetooth is not Bluetooth. There are several different types. Android requires Bluetooth Classic which requires more battery life, and Apple uses Bluetooth Low Energy. If a hearing aid only has Bluetooth Low Energy, then it will only pair with an Apple device. However, hearing aids with Bluetooth Classic can pair with any Android or Apple device.

    • @jackmortimer329
      @jackmortimer329 5 лет назад

      @@DrCliffAuD Thanks! I finally have an understanding of this topic. I appreciate your videos and dedication.

  • @bhavnabajaj2290
    @bhavnabajaj2290 5 лет назад +2

    I am in India (New Delhi ) and want trail of Evoke , is that possible @Widex

    • @NagarjunVlifeirideon
      @NagarjunVlifeirideon 4 года назад

      Hello Ms Bhavna,
      Hope you have got the trail in India. If not do let me know

  • @rpeter2942
    @rpeter2942 Год назад

    is these equivalent to the Widex Super? My Super just died a couple of weeks ago, and now I am stucked with these Evoke. I can't hear full rich speech as I did with Super.

  • @oskarmolly
    @oskarmolly 5 лет назад

    I Just got my first hearing device and it is a Widex Evoke 440. Mine says it will work with an Android device. I haven't downloaded the program yet. I'm just learning how to put it in correctly. Everything sounds so different especially my voice. My son said this is the first time that he can talk softly to me and not shout. So I think that is a big difference for my first hour of wearing one.

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад +1

      It will work with an Android device, but it will not stream audio or phone calls from an Android device.

    • @oskarmolly
      @oskarmolly 5 лет назад

      @@DrCliffAuD Thank You. I don't need to stream anyway. I'm still getting used to hearing different. Everything sounds so loud now and so many small sounds that I've never heard before. Thanks for your videos they have really helped me.

  • @parthpandya5631
    @parthpandya5631 5 лет назад

    can you give your opinion on widex speech enhancer vs other manufacturers noise reduction/removal/management systems?

  • @LauraJayne64
    @LauraJayne64 5 лет назад

    I have these aids. I have yet to be able to have them stream to both ears. I’ve already sent them back once as they were turning on and off.

    • @LauraJayne64
      @LauraJayne64 5 лет назад

      I feel like I should add that I have an iPhone.

  • @alfredovazquez469
    @alfredovazquez469 4 года назад

    Saludos desde México sería tan amable en decirme cual es el modelo exacto de aparato auditivo más potente actualmente para perdida profunda ya que padezco perdida profunda de ambos oidos y ya busque en varias marcas y ninguno da cobertura a mi perdida ya que solo oigo más fuerte pero no entiendo las palabras . Quiero saber cual es lo mejor de ustedes a ver si con ese si logro escuchar bien y entender mi pérdida va así : del lado izquierdo en la audiometría que dice db empieza en el 20 y luego hacia la derecha va bajando hasta llegar el número 120 creo dice Htz

  • @bmarloman
    @bmarloman 5 лет назад

    Getting widex zen for tinnitus next week. Just returned signia styletto HA notch therapy aids as they only cut tinnitus a small fraction. My hearing loss is only mild in the higher freq. Any feedback on the Widex Zen tinnitus feature?

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад

      That Zen feature is pretty unique. There are several different versions of Zen so get multiple ones loaded at a time.

  • @row4hb
    @row4hb 5 лет назад

    Thank you once again Dr. for a well produced and informative video. I haven’t seen any videos yet (this might have been a place to mention it) where you discuss the upcoming release of the Widex fuel cell technology to replace the rechargeable lithium. This may be why Widex has not made the same rechargeable strides in recent years as some of the competition, but the forecasted 10-20 minute recharge and 20 hours of use is going to be a massive leap we have all needed in this area. Also, have never heard your perspective on Lyric, I have worn these for the past 6 years and love them. But as my hearing has changed again the fit algorithm is not performing as well anymore. Have always stayed aware of the hearing assist technologies to be informed in the event of a change to fit my needs and your sharing is greatly appreciated. Thanks

    • @widexusa5221
      @widexusa5221 5 лет назад +1

      Hi Row4hb. It will actually only be a 20 second charge time for 24 hours of use with the coming energy cell release. Stay tuned for details coming this summer!

    • @row4hb
      @row4hb 5 лет назад

      Thank you, I think this the type of technology jump that changes many things (from a former President and R&D Chief). Any thoughts on doing a segment on Lyric? My favorite feature is 24 hour hearing, but as I mentioned the lack of real ear measure and curve fitting is beginning to present issues.
      Thanks Steve

    • @timharmon4146
      @timharmon4146 5 лет назад

      What is the cost of the hearing aid?

    • @irnsam1
      @irnsam1 5 лет назад

      Widex USA, will this fuel cell technology be available in New Zealand? I am on my first set of hearing aids and the evoke 440 have made my life a whole lot better.

    • @ZERGG0
      @ZERGG0 5 лет назад

      @@irnsam1 Hi Sam, where did you get them? If locally, how much in NZD, if it not secret?

  • @davidkilner2705
    @davidkilner2705 5 лет назад

    You mention that you can either make adjustments yourself through the app or it will make them for you via the machine learning capability. I have yet to notice it making adjustments itself, so am I doing something wrong?

  • @locog7389
    @locog7389 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for info. Great video. keep up the great work. I'm leaning so much. For the past 40+ years I thought there were only miracle ear and beltone brands available. I can't wait until I try other brands For the past couple years my top of the line beltones that I have are always in the shop several times a year for repairs

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад

      Your world will open up when you start looking at all the major brands. Miracle ear and Beltone are just retail clinics. Just wait until you experience private practice care!

  • @rustgmeister
    @rustgmeister 5 лет назад

    Hi! what do you think/what did you experience about sound quality comparing the Widex Evoke Fusion 2 and the Phonak Marvel? I'll try to get both for a trial period but I'd be eager to hear your opinion, (or maybe a comparison video ;) ) because the android compatibility and some other features and reviews make me go with Phonak, but on the other hand some reviewers say that the sound quality of the Evoke is better in many situations, mainly in big background noise. I've mild hearing loss, I'm listening to music a lot during work, so the streaming audio quality of music and the general quality when speaking with others in less noisy environment is the most important for me. Thanks in advance for your help!

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад +1

      I personally prefer the streaming quality of the Marvels, but Sound Quality is so subjective that it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks because your preference is unique to you.

    • @rustgmeister
      @rustgmeister 5 лет назад

      @@DrCliffAuD Thanks a lot for your quick and helpful reply, hopefully I'll be able to try both.

  • @gtewewrrrrrr
    @gtewewrrrrrr 5 лет назад +1

    Agreed that SoundSense can be a very useful feature for someone who wants to make minor adjustments and adjust the sound to their liking. But, what do you think of the possibility of the user adjusting the sounds too soft and comfortable, especially in the first period, and not adapt to the sounds and possibly get less benefit from the hearing aids?
    Hope we will see a Widex made for all/android soon though. I heard that they are waiting for Google and ReSound to sort out this out.
    Also, what do you think of Phonak AutoSense 3.0 vs Widex Soundclassifier?

    • @adamdippel1702
      @adamdippel1702 5 лет назад +4

      I am a Live Sound professional currently demoing both the Widex Evoke and Phonak Marvel for my moderate hearing loss. I don't know if it's the difference in processing techniques or not, but I can't keep the Phonaks in my ears longer than 30 seconds... The clear, natural sound of the Evokes blows my mind! I will be going with Widex. Hands down!

    • @gtewewrrrrrr
      @gtewewrrrrrr 5 лет назад +1

      @@adamdippel1702 Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you get both hearing aids fitted and verified with real ear measurements? Did you use the same type of dome/earmold?

    • @adamdippel1702
      @adamdippel1702 5 лет назад +1

      Yes, both fitted with REM and the same type of fitting on the receiver. The Marvels are tinny, harsh and don't seem to be able to adjust to the environment as well as the Evokes.

    • @twojafotografia_pl
      @twojafotografia_pl 5 лет назад +1

      I confirm, I tested marvel and evoke fusion 2. Fusion works like a good quality audio recorder .... zoom h1, h6 ;) or a good premium camera microphone. perfectly adapts to the environment. I love the sound of fusion 2.

    • @evettejohnson1180
      @evettejohnson1180 2 года назад

      @@twojafotografia_pl what is h1; h2?

  • @66ElCamino357
    @66ElCamino357 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the informative review...

  • @rtxrt73
    @rtxrt73 5 лет назад

    Do these have a CROS version?

    • @widexusa5221
      @widexusa5221 5 лет назад

      Hi, yes, CROS is compatible with Evoke.

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад

      Yes, Widex has a GREAT CROS.

    • @rtxrt73
      @rtxrt73 5 лет назад

      @@DrCliffAuD so I currently have the Phonak B-90R CROS hearing aids. However from when I first got them in July 2018 to now my hearing has declined significantly. I recently have started to look into a cochlear implant as I am currently at 60% open set word recognition in noisy environments and rapidly declining. As of now the only CROS system I've seen for hearing aids is advanced bionics. I know they partner with Phonak, but I was curious if any other CI manufacturers have CROS.

    • @rogerm5757
      @rogerm5757 5 лет назад

      CAUTION: Widex does indeed have CROS and BICROS. However, I've found that nowhere in their materials, brochures or website do they mention one VERY crucial fact. When you use their CROS or BICROS, you can only use one program, what they call the Universal Program.
      The moment you turn on both your hearing aids, no matter what changes you made to the program, the program immediately reverts back to the Universal Program. You can't even change the volume. Nothing.
      While they do have a great CROS, this limitation is a bummer. I sent them an email through their support link on their website to make sure. They admitted this limitation. I asked them when they were going to release an update to remove this limitation. Their response was "Our research and development teams in Denmark are constantly updating the functionality of our products and supporting software. We appreciate your observations and recommendations and will pass those along to the appropriate department and/or individuals."

  • @saqibahmed2787
    @saqibahmed2787 5 лет назад

    Hello Dr Cliff, you are doing amazing job to hearing impaired patient, i highly appreciate it.
    I want to ask about your opinion on HANSATON hearing aid, my audiologist is providing me hearing aid to HANSATON though i am confused whether i should move to another ok is it fine ?

    • @saqibahmed2787
      @saqibahmed2787 5 лет назад

      Also i have moderately severe to severe hearing loss.

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад

      Hensaton is a good brand. You really want to make sure it has the features you want and that your audiologist fits them using Real Ear Measures.

    • @judymueller5381
      @judymueller5381 5 лет назад

      n

  • @547doug
    @547doug 5 лет назад +1

    Dr Cliff, you should do a long form podcast with Dr Ted Venema.

  • @LauraJayne64
    @LauraJayne64 4 года назад

    I have these aids and I have so many issues!!! I only hear the Bluetooth on my left ear, the sound never goes to my right. I hear feedback whenever I put my hand through hair. Also they disappear from the accessible portion of my iPhone.

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  4 года назад

      I would have your hearing care professional send them in for repair. Sounds like you got a bad set. Feedback is a programming or fit issue.

    • @LauraJayne64
      @LauraJayne64 4 года назад

      Doctor Cliff, AuD I’ve been back and forth with them for a year. I’m really not enthusiastic about these aids.

  • @lipemodesto
    @lipemodesto 5 лет назад

    Dr. Olson-
    Albeit auto environment classification is certainly an expression of an artificial intelligence function, I have to digress that this is the first hearing aid to present such functions. Starkey's Livio AI was released before the Evoke and has this and other AI applications. Isn't that right?
    Huge fan here. Merry xmas!

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад

      Hi Filipe, yes, there are Ai functions in both devices, but when it comes to the Machine learning aspect, ony the Evoke has this capability currently. I would not consider the Livio Ai to have Ai significance when it comes to the hearing side of things.

    • @lipemodesto
      @lipemodesto 5 лет назад

      @@DrCliffAuD Thanks so much for the reply, but I still insist that machine learning, i.e. the use of previously fed information into a system/algorithm in order to achieve a specific outcome, is indeed used in the Livio AI for hearing purposes. It is used to classify different environments, recognize speech among static and dynamic sources of noise and thus decide on gain application/reduction. That is pretty much the use of AI being employed to improve auditory tasks. Wouldn't you agree?

  • @hami308
    @hami308 4 года назад

    Can i adjust volume with phone app?

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  4 года назад

      Yes, and much much more!

    • @hami308
      @hami308 4 года назад

      @@DrCliffAuD i tried it my phone not showing my hearing aids while turned on Bluetooth

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  4 года назад

      @@hami308 you have to setup the aids and app in the phone correctly. Contact your hearing care provider for help.

  • @sergioas3255
    @sergioas3255 5 лет назад

    Hello, I am currently translating this text. Sorry for the translation, first of all, I have a Widex Mind 440 of the year 2010 in which it includes Zen. The telecoil is not a novelty since my headphones have it. I have a loss of 135 dB and I must change the truth that I have already asked for it. The exact model is Widex Evoke BTE 13 D with mobile connection. The audiologist has told me that it allows me to talk and listen to streaming only with iPhones. With Android it is not compatible, have you tried using that system with an iPhone? If so, how is it going? I look forward to next week.

  • @АлексейИванов-л3б2н
    @АлексейИванов-л3б2н 2 года назад

    Здравствуйте, я из России у меня evoke 110, вопрос можно ли использовать через андроид как гарнитуру, отвечать на звонки, слушать музуку. И в программе у вас 3 иконки символа снизу, у меня 2. Музыкальной нет. Есть универсальная, ту что настроил доктор. И четырёх направленная чтоб прибавлять и убавлять. Можно ссылки о возможностях в плане it технологий данного аппарата программные обеспечения. Спасибо, заранее

  • @davidkilner2705
    @davidkilner2705 5 лет назад

    I'm trialing this hearing aid. I find it will communicate directly with my Nokia Android phone without a linking device (such as Com-Dex or a Phonak MyLink) and I can make the adjustments you are talking about. My major concern about it at the moment is that it doesn't have volume controls - you have to change the volume with the phone app, meaning you need to have your phone handy.

  • @1harothread
    @1harothread 5 лет назад

    I messaged widex about the bluetooth issue, their response is they dont want to sacrifice sound quality with bluetooth classic, which is what android runs on, iPhone uses bluetooth 2.4hz

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад +1

      Whoever you spoke to was misinformed. Bluetooth Classic and Bluetooth Low Energy both operate on 2.4G. The main difference between the two is the battery life. Classic is always streaming which draws more battery and Bluetooth Low Energy stays in sleep mode until streaming is required. You do NOT sacrifice sound quality with Bluetooth Classic.

    • @1harothread
      @1harothread 5 лет назад

      @@DrCliffAuD "Hi Cam,
      Phonak uses Bluetooth classic for streaming, which has some limitations when being used for hearing aids. Widex isn’t willing to make the compromises on sound quality that would be required to take this approach. To our understanding, like Widex, ReSound requires an intermediary device in order to stream audio from Android devices.
      Kind Regards,
      Widex"
      That's the answer I got :/

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад

      🤔 I do agree with the "has some limitations when being used for hearing aids", but the sound quality thing just isn't true.

  • @markhypno7920
    @markhypno7920 5 лет назад

    Would be good if you did a video on CIC's v RICS. I am too vain to wear the RICS but I know they are better for maintenance and sound. I have a pair of Widex Evoke to trial and have an android phone and find they do pair ok but sometimes do not connect so well. THey have a lot of wind noise too. The learning app does not work very well either and is more of a gadget.

  • @dani26acyt
    @dani26acyt 5 лет назад

    Hello Dr. Cliff, I'm in 5 day free trial of the Evoke 440 and I can't get good quality sound, it sounds like robotic voices. Do you think that might change over time? (I had SSHL on my right ear and that left me with audio distortion as well, besides tinnitus). Also, I can't find all the 11 programs that are mentiones in this video, do I have to do something? thank you for your help.

  • @sylviazanello2252
    @sylviazanello2252 2 года назад

    Just my option. I am using Widex Moment now and it is better than the Evoke..

  • @careyl4042
    @careyl4042 4 года назад

    the hearing aid works great, but the battery does not last long

  • @mariefalkenhagen546
    @mariefalkenhagen546 5 лет назад +1

    I have a an Android and mine works perfectly my doctor programmed them online for me

    • @DrCliffAuD
      @DrCliffAuD  5 лет назад

      Yes, the remote programming feature works well with these. Android just doesn't let you directly stream.

  • @kartgal
    @kartgal 5 лет назад

    Woohoo Widex

  • @yubarajacharya9431
    @yubarajacharya9431 5 лет назад +1

    Wow...

  • @charliekelly1909
    @charliekelly1909 5 лет назад

    i head evoke 400 the sound gone up and down no good i could not were them

  • @nononsense6875
    @nononsense6875 5 лет назад +1

    Long ago the wides programming was so tedious that audiologists avoided offering them? Is it still a pain in the arse?

  • @ashtoncooke7482
    @ashtoncooke7482 4 года назад

    ashhv