Joined! I've just started running again and strained my calf, so that part of my training will begin very slowly, but I can still ride a bike, so I'm in. Best of luck to all of us!
I've been meaning to post here for ages how happy I am that Emily came out from behind the producer's wall to fully participate in the show, cos she adds so much to the conversation. She's also lowkey funny and usually makes me laugh the most. After today's "mah waaafe" reading I've finally paused the show to leave this comment. Keep it up, Emily! 😄
Huge benefit of cyclocross - it works pretty much in a stadium where people can be charged entry and spend enough money at relatively few concessions to make those foodstalls etc profitable. Apart from indoor track, not many other bike races generate money from the race event
Years ago…I switched to “time in activity (on bike)” versus distance. It’s such a better metric since our bodies (systems) don’t know distance but does know time. Solid work and good luck!!!
The Colnago merch high/low challenge caused a significant increase in funds to the swear jar at our house. I guess someone has to pay for Pog's new contract...
I have been doing similar but trying to run/walk/hike 5000kms in a year. This year currently 4345kms so far. It really does make the differences you are hoping for! Go for it!
Wider tires have lower rolling resistance. At some speed aero should come in and neglect this. But it's very dependent on the Forks and rims. Dylan Johnson 56mm MTB tire had better Aerodynamics in the wind tunnel that a smaller tire. Aerodynamics are not what people think they. It's complicated. The other problem with wider tires is that actually it could make you faster and thus take on more risk, especially in the curves.
For the Shimano GRX 1x, gotta check what is the battery. The complication before is because you can't run a dropper post with a seatpost battery. So development of a new battery is probably what took more time. If there's a new release, they've either figured it out or given it up.
The Colnago bike isn't compared to just one "best" competitor, they say that it's compared to the bike that is best in class for every tested parameter (90 minute interview with engineers by Escape Collective).
A thought in the guy with the hub issues post washing etc. Could it have been jet washing and blasting out the grease? So then when they stood for 3 weeks it ground to halt?
Yeah, I don't see that not washing your bike would cause the freehub to seize. Freehub pawls are only lightly greased so if you are spraying degreasers on your chain and cassette, you're more likely to wash out the grease causing the pawls to stick. I don't understand why they had to get new wheels, why couldn't they just service the stuck freehubs ?
My thought too. I've done thousands of miles commuting on cheap OEM Shimano/Giant wheels all year round on wet & muddy country lanes and they've held up incredibly well. Frequent (gentle) washing is the answer, and when it's really mucky the rims etc get a quick rinse and a quick wipe down with a rag twice a day. It's a 5 minute job. I've also learnt that after riding home from work in sub-zero weather it's not a good idea to leave a wet bike in a cold garage.
What an excellent plan for 2025. Think I'll tap into it. After heart attack in April 2020 (genetic despite being fit but exacerbated by eating too few fats and too many carbs, as in mid-1970s recommendations), I did rehab and got into my own programme of HIIT and steady fitness work, got rid of fat, mass down to perfect BMI, felt great, then some incidents got me depressed and snacking and dropped the exercise plan. Age 69, I want to be back at my age 67 levels before I hit 70 in April. Might have to replace 172.5mm cranks with 165mm, if I can find any, to protect my old joints & ligaments and get used to riding slower for longer
It is "leaked". No pix that I'm aware of but the new XTR is found on some new bikes yet to be released. I had Eagle and it was cool but l went back to cables. Easier to live with and significantly, noticeably lighter.
Pinion leaves them all in the dust... Literally dust won't affect them and there's no chain to lube. If your bike falls over on its right hand side you can still change gears. Derailleur gear systems are crap.
@@Marvin2Shoes but if my derailleur fails, I can buy a new one for 20$, ditch it and run 1by, or fix it myself, with basic tools, no matter where. If my chain breaks, I slap on a new one (7$). If my shift lever quits, i can still shift manually. No need for a licensed and certified shop charging 300$ for an inspection of a 4000$ bike. My bike is like 600 in total, meaning I can grind through 33 sets of one derailleur, three chains and three cassettes before I spent the money I would on a pinion bike by just buying it, not including any service.
I'm going to have creeped over 200 hours by the end of this year. I'm still getting faster and fitter on that sort of volume, but the idea of trying to double it for a challenge sounds like fun. I think I'll have to give this a try next year.
8h/week is easy if you commute by bike. I have a 15min commute to work, come back home for lunch. That's 1h per day, not counting going out downtown or going for a ride on the weekend.
Absolutely agree with Nick. Modern mountain bikes are too easy to ride. It's a number experience, more removed from the terrain. I also reckon they enable riders to get into situations where they don't have the skill to get out if it goes wrong leading to bigger injuries.
Don’t care about bike packing India I’m here for these three beautiful souls and you got me with the intro about not exercising in this couple weeks around Xmas guilty lol
Thank you for the challenge idea it has come at a great time for us. We can all tweek it to fit time and lifestyle commitments. This is the type of target that gets folk off the couch. A 200 hour target will be our starting point. 10000 km = 6214 miles 400 hours ÷52=7 hours 36 mins 5000km = 3107 miles 200 hours ÷52=3 hours 51 mins
Regarding making cycling slower for the pros, mandated minimum tyre width/regulated pressures etc could work. Jimmi's idea of making bikes 20kg wouldn't though, that would make them ride slower uphill and even faster descending.
Excellent episode. So much to agree with regarding road/off road riding.The maintenance thing was puzzling. Surely the issue is the way people wash their bikes. If done correctly there's no way it should ruin a wheel or groupset. Usually I listen to the audio podcast but occasionally watch the youtube version. Is Jimmy sitting on the floor? he always seems to be looking up and to the right when talking to you. Anyway I love his and Nic's opinions as they usually match my own old fashioned ones. Without a doubt, yours is the best cycling podcast as you cover more than the sport itself and the technology but also those quirky things like opinions and ratings.
love this - I set an annual exercise hours goal! Only hit 200 this year though. I love it as works well with Zwift, mountain biking and bit road. I am going to join this 400 hours goal and try myself! Quick Question - I include all sports so running/5-aside too and walks over 5K. Would you include other sports or only cycling?
Well having owned and still own 90's MTB, firstly they're 26 inch wheel and if you were lucky 80mm suspension elastomer fork (they were crap) and in winter I fitted slicks and went on the road as the off road in UK winter is mud lots of it. I currently have an 29er MTB with drop bars and a rigid fork built out of bits which would drive Nic mad.
Project 400 sounds like a good idea, buy why not just do 1 hour a day and aim for 365 hours for the year? Obviously it's less hours, but the number feels less arbitrary. Also we need Jimmy to go out on a Francis style bikepacking trip in the new year!
Just to make you feel good (not), my 60+ year-old female next door neighbour did over 10000 miles the year before last (2022) and she’d only been cycling for five years (total) at that time. She’s quite committed and well off (two Pinarellos and a Time training bike), but you’ve still got to turn the pedals! Happy Days!
Sounds quite a lot like the Cycling Weekly 5000, which has kept me consistent since I started doing it in 2020. I like the idea of hours, though, because most of my riding is in London, averaging 12mph with stopping at all the lights. It also means no arguments about miles or kms.
" I had surgery on Tuesday, they put a prosthesis on my hip, and today I can walk, even though with some difficulty. I hope to get back on the bike soon. Cycling is my life and I still enjoy doing it, why should I stop? Eddy Merckx " He's 79, legend....
My goal for the last few years was to average an hour of cycling (indoor or outdoor) a day for a year. This past year I pushed that to 400 hours on the bike, exactly what you guys were talking about. I’m at 392 hours as of today (just under 12,000 km distance), should be able to hit the goal and exceed it by a bit. Biggest thing for me was not taking a day off. Even if I was tight on time, I’d do a half hour on the trainer during lunch or ride my bike to/from work. I think over the course of the year I’ve taken maybe 4 total days completely off the bike and that was with a fair number of trips and being a full time parent/husband/employee. Hoping I can match this next year.
@37:29, I respectfully disagree. Only modern mountain bikes have slack geometry. The mountain bikes from the 80s and 90s have geometry quite similar to road bikes (71°/73° HTA/STA isn't unusual). In addition, the "stack" of 80s/90s mountain bikes is also quite short, because they don't have those super sloping TT of modern mountain bikes. I know as I've tried retrofitting drop bars on my 90s Merlin; even with a tall stem (Google "LD stem"), the handlebars were not higher than the saddle.
If the UCI is serious about slowing down road speeds , then they should consider. Raising the handle bars to 80's to 90's level , that would effectively improve that riders line of sight up the road and most likely relieve lower back strain as well. Check out the 1990 Amstel gold , there's great camera side views of the racers .So smooth and fast they were.
I have an aluminum Specialized Diverge that I built up for ultra rides/events, it's got a 105 groupset and 32mm GP5000 tires, as well as a Kona Sutra I use for bikepacking events with a Deore groupset and 29x2.1" tubeless tires, both bikes could be considered gravel bikes really
I built earlier this year a Surly Bridge Club with the below components. Shimano GRX shifters Shimano XT 1x11 11-46 cassette Wolftooth Tanpan Shimano Deore 32 Crank Shimano XT brakes I absolutely love it. If GRX originally came out with 1x, I would have bought it and possibly paid them double the cost.
Instead of focusing on a goal, how about focusing on a process? E.g., ride early in the AM for 20 miles before lunch. Only eat between noon and 6 pm. Works for me.
Setting goals at the beginning of the program would have been a good plug for your sponsor Garmin. Garmin has many many challenges throughout the year for all activities including, dare I say Golf? Lol. Anyway, Garmin has a great variety of challenges that can be shared with groups.
Honestly, instead of all the creative ideas to slow racing down. Just revert to the classic TDF with 300 mile stages over various terrain around FR (not quite the TCR), 1 bike per rider and self sufficiency. Racers will ride at whatever pace they want to endure the distance. It'll put a lot more weight on deciding to commit to moves and split things up. I'd love to see what Colnago would come up with. Clever tool systems, a bit of aero with good off-road capability, lightweight powerful integrated lights, perhaps storage for extra layers and the skill to fix your own gear. It might also inspire more home repairable bikes and some proper Dakar-style rigs.
#project400 . I'm 100% down for it. As a 46 year old overweight man from Australia that owns 3 bikes , this is great motivation and possibly even achievable 😂. Set up a strava group, and let's get involved. 1 suggestion... walking only counts if it's a block of 1 hour or more? This will help with people not logging. Walking around the local shopping centre etc. Just a suggestion.
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Nic's story about that rosting bike got me thinking. I never wash my commuter bike and the amount of times that I washed my dropbar mountain bike can be counted on one hand, if I remember correctly. They are both steel bikes and still fine, so what's the difference? I just looked it up: In Berlin (Germany) it's forbidden to use salt as thawing aid as it damages the trees and impacts the water system. And as I'm mostly cycling in Berlin in the winter months I'm fine. But it's good to know that I can't allow myself such slack should I cycle somewhere else in the cold months 😅
I rode 6200 miles in the first 11 months of 2018, working a 5 day week full time. I was 61 at the time and had ridden bikes since I was a kid inc racing! I've barely ridden my bikes since!! Just couldn't be bothered either on road or off.... Beware! ATB Alistair 👍
My mum has a Trek checkpoint. Great bike but I have never know a bike need so many replacements of bearings etc on the rear hub. Certainly a budget bit of the bike
Around the 30 minute mark you are talking about bike weight to slow things down. How about doing what is done to handicap a horse race. The fastest thoroughbreds wear weighted saddles. It would make who wins a lot more unpredictable that it may make racing more exciting/unpredictable.
Just got my strava stats for the year, 409hrs. i trained for fred whitton and chase the sun which both took a lot of long rides. Plus a month trekking in Nepal really helped bring that number too. I'll try again for 400 next year too.
I live in the northeast (Darlington) and my go to rides are in the Pennines, dales and moors (ie super hilly). So far on 448 hrs and 7500 miles with 480000 ft. (And I am not a racer, I am approaching 50, and I work full time.) this challenge should be a breeze for you guys.
I’m sure it will have already been said and I’m sure I’ve read it recently that disc brakes could be a factor behind crashes, better brakes, late braking, crashes. In motor racing, it is s common upgrade to go faster, get better brakes. Rim brakes would make people a little more cautious again...
@@Marvin2Shoes agreed, poorer brakes make it harder to stop quickly so you end up slowing down overall. Don’t worry, I’m not evangelical about rim brakes 😂
There is already a proper name for gravel bikes, and it's been used for well over a decade, and it's "all-road bike". It's so much more descriptive & accure, as "gravel bikes" tend to start showing weakness when roads disappear and single track starts, but excel over road bikes when you leave smooth tarmac. Jan Heine, the owner of René Herse, wrote a book about it, The All-Road Bike Revolution, which is an excellent & informative read.
If you go by US gravel bike standard with 50mm+ tyres and a dropper post, single track really isn't an issue until you start hitting big drops or deep mud.
I do a mix of road and MTB and I set myself a goal of 5hrs a week this year…..and it looks like I’m going to hit the target. With a young daughter and a full time job it wasn’t easy. Any more than 5 hours would take a lot of dedication and effort.
On the subject of 10,000kms for the year, I rode 10,000 miles for the year, in 2018. Mind you, I was a lot younger then. I was only 68 yearls old, and I was retired, by 2 years. The last 2 years or so have been a tad challenging on the motivational front, but there is really no excuse for challenging myself again, given the time advantage that I have over the vast majority of cyclists.🤞
When you put in that hourly goal, as a person who cycles less than they used too, but excercise more than they used too, in terms of weights, climbing, yoga, running, I am at 380hrs for 2024, with 25 days to go, it wasn't a goal though it is just life! I do about 8 hours a week, but when I cycled, which was more 1-2hrs hard efforts, I only did 4-6 hours a week, if you are getting up to 8 hours a week you are bring in zone 2 stuff which is fine if you enjoy it, but unless you are pro or an endurance rider I prefer to just smash it when I am out, then recover. No one is paying me either way after all!
I wouldn't get too excited about Canyons finishing. It's just a thick layer of filler painted over and it's prone to cracking which can make you think that your frame is cracking... 🥶
Great stuff this week....from the hours on a bike per week (I mix outside, usually about 5 hours on a Saturday and Zwift which is just a sweat session for....(I reckon most of them on there don't get out much 😆), the price comparisons (although I got the flight ticket wrong)...as for the Gravel thing, I don't really get it and I have tried it but I got rid...I'll stick to my hardtail Genesis Tarn. I do agree with Nick on the three category Road, MTB and BMX and they sub category with styles (I used to ride BMX early 80's, MTB and Road)...frankly I feel it's all just about trying to sell something more to people. Lastly, maybe controversial to some but it bores me when people use the term 'fast bike'...there isn't such a thing!..it's about who's on it surely (compare to a car, in a straight line the same person could do the same speed 😏). One final last thing, how about inviting one of your viewers on to a cast, maybe once a month or quarter....could be quite interesting 👍
Evaluating training using hours is the only way to do it in my opinion. I live in Florida, where it's very flat to say the least. So if I go ride 40 miles (64km), I may only have a few hundred feet of elevation, and if I'm on either coast, it could be fewer than 50 feet. So time is the only way to go. I've joined in the club for the coming year. It won't be easy making that much time per week, but I think we need to be selfish for our own health and stick to it. Best of luck to all of us.
Who made Colnago’s capsule collection? The fabric is definitely of good quality. I bought a coat made of Loro Piana fabric and costed more. But, mine has immaculate tailoring & NO brand showing (not for nouveau riche). But if one can afford a SteelNovo, then it’s quite fair that individual wears such clothing (without the brand shown off, though).
Some freehubs are crap and hard to service, some aren't. The freehubs on my Fulcrum Racing Sports were poorly sealed and would rust easily, but the ones in my Fulcrum Racing 900's are well sealed, easy to regrease the pawls and durable. I use cheap NOS 26" Shimano wheels on my commute bike. Check the reviews before buying wheels to see how durable and serviceable they are. Learn how to regrease and replace bearings if you want them to last.
Hours target is such a good idea for people like me who ride road, gravel and mountain bike with greatly varying speeds over flat, hilly, rocky terrain. PS I did 9000 miles this year. PPS there is no such bird as a Seagull 😂 they are all different types of gulls.
in regards to making pro cycling safer, why don't they just make them wear motorcycle style suits with protection pads. you could maybe play with the aero as well
36:38 Alex: MTB riders can't cope with the fact that gravel bikes can be ridden to and from the off -road bits comfortably, and require no more maintenance than a regular bike. Unlike ridiculous bouncy bikes, with suspension bushes, swing arms, etc. that rode like tractors on road.
About slowing cycling down: why not make it (more) self-supported? Eg. mandatory stops to refuel in stead of getting it handed to you. Fix your own mechanical issues to a certain degree. That would make it more exciting and people will want to do their own bike maintenance more "because all the pros can do it too" (sorry Nic...). Or like Formula 1: focus as much on safety as on slowing it down. Especially regarding clothing and technology that protects you when you crash. In F1, the halo and fire-resistant clothing saved Romain Grosjean from instant death and burning alive. Surely by now we're evolved enough as a species to invent some sort of airbag for bikes?
I've done 329:54 hours outside on my bike and 54:49 hours indoors this year. So I came close to your 400 hours challenge. And i'm 66 years old. And you think your winters are cold...... Try Central Indiana winters. I ride a Trek Checkpoint SL5 on 45mm Perelli M tires. I don't have mountains here but I do have some hills. I rode 187,423 ft of elevation gained.
You guys seem to think the goal of Y1rs should be to be a great bike for people that ride around town at 20kph. That’s quite misguided. The Y1rs is designed purely to win races, and is very appealing to people like myself who race. You guys seem to hat bikes built for this purpose. That’s like me complaining about a mountain bike being prone to getting dirty!
My emtb is my new road bike. It has 29" x 2.6" tyres, dual suspension and weighs 30kg with all racks, bags, spares, tools & water. It has room to store extra stuff at the shops and is actually useful. I regularly get passed by drop bar bikes... that is really their use... beating others by going faster. What an immature reason for a choice of bicycle?
Project 400 Strava Club created. Get in. 💪🏼
Full support! I have no doubts you are going to make it! Joined in. This year I hope I can still hit 1000h.. but maybe something is wrong with me 😂
Are you only counting cycling, or does running/swimming (canoeing...) also count?
Joined! I've just started running again and strained my calf, so that part of my training will begin very slowly, but I can still ride a bike, so I'm in. Best of luck to all of us!
I've been meaning to post here for ages how happy I am that Emily came out from behind the producer's wall to fully participate in the show, cos she adds so much to the conversation. She's also lowkey funny and usually makes me laugh the most. After today's "mah waaafe" reading I've finally paused the show to leave this comment. Keep it up, Emily! 😄
Emily is fantastic. Adds so much to the show.
You should figure out a way to have your viewers join the 400 hour challenge. I mean, I want a badge.
I’ve been trying to tell him 🤷🏻♂️
@@NicVieriMechanic Get his wife on board then he'll have to listen to you.
A strava club/ challenge maybe?
+1 for the Strava club/challenge
I dont feel like this is a challenge, I ride to work which takes 30min each way. and a then well over 6hrs every other weekend!
2025 Cade media 400 hrs challenge, we need jerseys.
All proceeds goes to bikes for kids or something of the sort.
Huge benefit of cyclocross - it works pretty much in a stadium where people can be charged entry and spend enough money at relatively few concessions to make those foodstalls etc profitable. Apart from indoor track, not many other bike races generate money from the race event
Not only that, it is expensive to have roads closed.
I was at my first cyclocross race this year and it was a completely different experience than anything else I have done before.
& velodrome races are expensive considering the cost of the velodrome!!
Years ago…I switched to “time in activity (on bike)” versus distance. It’s such a better metric since our bodies (systems) don’t know distance but does know time.
Solid work and good luck!!!
The Colnago merch high/low challenge caused a significant increase in funds to the swear jar at our house. I guess someone has to pay for Pog's new contract...
I have been doing similar but trying to run/walk/hike 5000kms in a year. This year currently 4345kms so far. It really does make the differences you are hoping for! Go for it!
Are you gonna get 700 more km in 2 weeks??
@ChapatiMan Ha! I wish. I'll prob get about another 250km as off work for hols soon.
Wider tires have lower rolling resistance. At some speed aero should come in and neglect this. But it's very dependent on the Forks and rims. Dylan Johnson 56mm MTB tire had better Aerodynamics in the wind tunnel that a smaller tire. Aerodynamics are not what people think they. It's complicated.
The other problem with wider tires is that actually it could make you faster and thus take on more risk, especially in the curves.
For the Shimano GRX 1x, gotta check what is the battery. The complication before is because you can't run a dropper post with a seatpost battery. So development of a new battery is probably what took more time. If there's a new release, they've either figured it out or given it up.
The Colnago bike isn't compared to just one "best" competitor, they say that it's compared to the bike that is best in class for every tested parameter (90 minute interview with engineers by Escape Collective).
Thanks Emily , Jimmi , and Nic "The Mechanic " .Ok , Emily doing Borat was awesome !
A thought in the guy with the hub issues post washing etc. Could it have been jet washing and blasting out the grease? So then when they stood for 3 weeks it ground to halt?
Yes definitely. Probably had very little grease in before the last ride.
Yeah, I don't see that not washing your bike would cause the freehub to seize. Freehub pawls are only lightly greased so if you are spraying degreasers on your chain and cassette, you're more likely to wash out the grease causing the pawls to stick. I don't understand why they had to get new wheels, why couldn't they just service the stuck freehubs ?
My thought too. I've done thousands of miles commuting on cheap OEM Shimano/Giant wheels all year round on wet & muddy country lanes and they've held up incredibly well.
Frequent (gentle) washing is the answer, and when it's really mucky the rims etc get a quick rinse and a quick wipe down with a rag twice a day. It's a 5 minute job.
I've also learnt that after riding home from work in sub-zero weather it's not a good idea to leave a wet bike in a cold garage.
What an excellent plan for 2025. Think I'll tap into it. After heart attack in April 2020 (genetic despite being fit but exacerbated by eating too few fats and too many carbs, as in mid-1970s recommendations), I did rehab and got into my own programme of HIIT and steady fitness work, got rid of fat, mass down to perfect BMI, felt great, then some incidents got me depressed and snacking and dropped the exercise plan. Age 69, I want to be back at my age 67 levels before I hit 70 in April. Might have to replace 172.5mm cranks with 165mm, if I can find any, to protect my old joints & ligaments and get used to riding slower for longer
I love Nic’s insights. 100% Shimano need to show up in 2025 (Catch up) with some innovation. On the mtb side… (completely) wireless XTR.
Fingers crossed 🤞🏼
Spoiler… new DI2 MTB is coming
Already leaked......
It is "leaked". No pix that I'm aware of but the new XTR is found on some new bikes yet to be released.
I had Eagle and it was cool but l went back to cables. Easier to live with and significantly, noticeably lighter.
It's so inevitable that I've just bought a bike with XT mechanical to future proof my off-road life.
I hit 10.000km at the end of november, I surprised myself!🥳
If they are smart, the rear derailleur should be versatile enough to be used with a 10-51t , not just a 10-45t cassette.
This is exactly what I want. It has to work with their mtb cassettes
1by with 42 rear? What stupid bs?! 😀 but whats that for a crankset? Thats not SHIMANO 820... 😀
Yup they need it, sram is leaving them in the dust especially when it comes to wide range options
Pinion leaves them all in the dust... Literally dust won't affect them and there's no chain to lube. If your bike falls over on its right hand side you can still change gears. Derailleur gear systems are crap.
@@Marvin2Shoes but if my derailleur fails, I can buy a new one for 20$, ditch it and run 1by, or fix it myself, with basic tools, no matter where. If my chain breaks, I slap on a new one (7$). If my shift lever quits, i can still shift manually. No need for a licensed and certified shop charging 300$ for an inspection of a 4000$ bike. My bike is like 600 in total, meaning I can grind through 33 sets of one derailleur, three chains and three cassettes before I spent the money I would on a pinion bike by just buying it, not including any service.
I'm going to have creeped over 200 hours by the end of this year. I'm still getting faster and fitter on that sort of volume, but the idea of trying to double it for a challenge sounds like fun. I think I'll have to give this a try next year.
8h/week is easy if you commute by bike.
I have a 15min commute to work, come back home for lunch. That's 1h per day, not counting going out downtown or going for a ride on the weekend.
Absolutely agree with Nick. Modern mountain bikes are too easy to ride. It's a number experience, more removed from the terrain. I also reckon they enable riders to get into situations where they don't have the skill to get out if it goes wrong leading to bigger injuries.
Hence...gravel
Don’t care about bike packing India I’m here for these three beautiful souls and you got me with the intro about not exercising in this couple weeks around Xmas guilty lol
Absolutely. Frankly, Francis' self-indulgent travel diaries are of zero interest. Cade doesn't need Cade.
Thank you for the challenge idea it has come at a great time for us. We can all tweek it to fit time and lifestyle commitments. This is the type of target that gets folk off the couch.
A 200 hour target will be our starting point.
10000 km = 6214 miles
400 hours ÷52=7 hours 36 mins
5000km = 3107 miles
200 hours ÷52=3 hours 51 mins
Regarding making cycling slower for the pros, mandated minimum tyre width/regulated pressures etc could work. Jimmi's idea of making bikes 20kg wouldn't though, that would make them ride slower uphill and even faster descending.
Wild Ones Podcast, saving my awful Thursdays every week ❤
Excellent episode. So much to agree with regarding road/off road riding.The maintenance thing was puzzling. Surely the issue is the way people wash their bikes. If done correctly there's no way it should ruin a wheel or groupset.
Usually I listen to the audio podcast but occasionally watch the youtube version. Is Jimmy sitting on the floor? he always seems to be looking up and to the right when talking to you.
Anyway I love his and Nic's opinions as they usually match my own old fashioned ones. Without a doubt, yours is the best cycling podcast as you cover more than the sport itself and the technology but also those quirky things like opinions and ratings.
Litespeed is advertising a LImited Edition Flint that has Shimano GRX Di2 1x as well.
love this - I set an annual exercise hours goal! Only hit 200 this year though. I love it as works well with Zwift, mountain biking and bit road. I am going to join this 400 hours goal and try myself! Quick Question - I include all sports so running/5-aside too and walks over 5K. Would you include other sports or only cycling?
We figured that limiting the chainring size would be the best, measurable way to somewhat limit the highest speeds to relative strength and fitness.
Well having owned and still own 90's MTB, firstly they're 26 inch wheel and if you were lucky 80mm suspension elastomer fork (they were crap) and in winter I fitted slicks and went on the road as the off road in UK winter is mud lots of it. I currently have an 29er MTB with drop bars and a rigid fork built out of bits which would drive Nic mad.
Project 400 sounds like a good idea, buy why not just do 1 hour a day and aim for 365 hours for the year? Obviously it's less hours, but the number feels less arbitrary. Also we need Jimmy to go out on a Francis style bikepacking trip in the new year!
Just to make you feel good (not), my 60+ year-old female next door neighbour did over 10000 miles the year before last (2022) and she’d only been cycling for five years (total) at that time. She’s quite committed and well off (two Pinarellos and a Time training bike), but you’ve still got to turn the pedals! Happy Days!
Sounds quite a lot like the Cycling Weekly 5000, which has kept me consistent since I started doing it in 2020. I like the idea of hours, though, because most of my riding is in London, averaging 12mph with stopping at all the lights. It also means no arguments about miles or kms.
Can you attach hope disc brake callipers to work well with SHIMANO GRX 2x10? Thank you
Yes, but you need the Shimano spec ones with seals for mineral oil, not dot fluid. Call Hope support, they are really helpful.
" I had surgery on Tuesday, they put a prosthesis on my hip, and today I can walk, even though with some difficulty. I hope to get back on the bike soon. Cycling is my life and I still enjoy doing it, why should I stop?
Eddy Merckx " He's 79, legend....
My goal for the last few years was to average an hour of cycling (indoor or outdoor) a day for a year. This past year I pushed that to 400 hours on the bike, exactly what you guys were talking about. I’m at 392 hours as of today (just under 12,000 km distance), should be able to hit the goal and exceed it by a bit. Biggest thing for me was not taking a day off. Even if I was tight on time, I’d do a half hour on the trainer during lunch or ride my bike to/from work. I think over the course of the year I’ve taken maybe 4 total days completely off the bike and that was with a fair number of trips and being a full time parent/husband/employee. Hoping I can match this next year.
I always thought time on the bike is more important than distance. 400 hours is a good challenge
@37:29, I respectfully disagree. Only modern mountain bikes have slack geometry. The mountain bikes from the 80s and 90s have geometry quite similar to road bikes (71°/73° HTA/STA isn't unusual). In addition, the "stack" of 80s/90s mountain bikes is also quite short, because they don't have those super sloping TT of modern mountain bikes. I know as I've tried retrofitting drop bars on my 90s Merlin; even with a tall stem (Google "LD stem"), the handlebars were not higher than the saddle.
If the UCI is serious about slowing down road speeds , then they should consider.
Raising the handle bars to 80's to 90's level , that would effectively improve that riders line of sight up the road and most likely relieve lower back strain as well. Check out the 1990 Amstel gold , there's great camera side views of the racers .So smooth and fast they were.
I have an aluminum Specialized Diverge that I built up for ultra rides/events, it's got a 105 groupset and 32mm GP5000 tires, as well as a Kona Sutra I use for bikepacking events with a Deore groupset and 29x2.1" tubeless tires, both bikes could be considered gravel bikes really
I built earlier this year a Surly Bridge Club with the below components.
Shimano GRX shifters
Shimano XT 1x11 11-46 cassette
Wolftooth Tanpan
Shimano Deore 32 Crank
Shimano XT brakes
I absolutely love it. If GRX originally came out with 1x, I would have bought it and possibly paid them double the cost.
Colnago is the Ferrari of the bike world with those merch prices
Instead of focusing on a goal, how about focusing on a process? E.g., ride early in the AM for 20 miles before lunch. Only eat between noon and 6 pm. Works for me.
Setting goals at the beginning of the program would have been a good plug for your sponsor Garmin. Garmin has many many challenges throughout the year for all activities including, dare I say Golf? Lol.
Anyway, Garmin has a great variety of challenges that can be shared with groups.
Honestly, instead of all the creative ideas to slow racing down. Just revert to the classic TDF with 300 mile stages over various terrain around FR (not quite the TCR), 1 bike per rider and self sufficiency. Racers will ride at whatever pace they want to endure the distance. It'll put a lot more weight on deciding to commit to moves and split things up. I'd love to see what Colnago would come up with. Clever tool systems, a bit of aero with good off-road capability, lightweight powerful integrated lights, perhaps storage for extra layers and the skill to fix your own gear. It might also inspire more home repairable bikes and some proper Dakar-style rigs.
Gravel bikes make basic trails exciting, and more technical.
#project400 .
I'm 100% down for it.
As a 46 year old overweight man from Australia that owns 3 bikes , this is great motivation and possibly even achievable 😂. Set up a strava group, and let's get involved. 1 suggestion... walking only counts if it's a block of 1 hour or more? This will help with people not logging. Walking around the local shopping centre etc. Just a suggestion.
Nic's story about that rosting bike got me thinking. I never wash my commuter bike and the amount of times that I washed my dropbar mountain bike can be counted on one hand, if I remember correctly. They are both steel bikes and still fine, so what's the difference?
I just looked it up: In Berlin (Germany) it's forbidden to use salt as thawing aid as it damages the trees and impacts the water system. And as I'm mostly cycling in Berlin in the winter months I'm fine. But it's good to know that I can't allow myself such slack should I cycle somewhere else in the cold months 😅
Always a quality show!
A challenge based on time spent pedaling is brilliant! I think I'll shoot for a 200 hour badge. Thanks for the great content.
I rode 6200 miles in the first 11 months of 2018, working a 5 day week full time. I was 61 at the time and had ridden bikes since I was a kid inc racing!
I've barely ridden my bikes since!! Just couldn't be bothered either on road or off.... Beware!
ATB Alistair 👍
GREAT Challenge! I'm 63 and I will hit 1000 hrs this yr! Go Guys!!!
They could take a note from ultra-endurance racing. No rest days and ride between stages/no stages. Fatigue would slow them down.
The Canyon alloy endurance frame looks almost as good as a CAAD 9 Cannondale, but not quite. And Cannondale doesn't cover up their welds.
My mum has a Trek checkpoint. Great bike but I have never know a bike need so many replacements of bearings etc on the rear hub. Certainly a budget bit of the bike
Around the 30 minute mark you are talking about bike weight to slow things down. How about doing what is done to handicap a horse race. The fastest thoroughbreds wear weighted saddles. It would make who wins a lot more unpredictable that it may make racing more exciting/unpredictable.
They also have it in motorsport - where it is known as BoP (Balance of Performance).
The GRX825 x2 front shift is so awesome that I don't really understand the need of 1x.
Just got my strava stats for the year, 409hrs. i trained for fred whitton and chase the sun which both took a lot of long rides. Plus a month trekking in Nepal really helped bring that number too. I'll try again for 400 next year too.
I love the idea of no radios in the Tour. Just back to racing the guy in front of you.
I live in the northeast (Darlington) and my go to rides are in the Pennines, dales and moors (ie super hilly). So far on 448 hrs and 7500 miles with 480000 ft. (And I am not a racer, I am approaching 50, and I work full time.) this challenge should be a breeze for you guys.
You can already use the Shimano XTR Di2 11speed rear mech with the GRX 11 speed 1 & 2 by Di2. Ok, full auto doesn't work but semi-auto does :)
Looking forward to weekly updates on the 400 club challenge
The logistics of a Secret Santa drawing don't really matter if you only have 3 people, since you'll immediately know who has you once you draw a name.
I’m sure it will have already been said and I’m sure I’ve read it recently that disc brakes could be a factor behind crashes, better brakes, late braking, crashes. In motor racing, it is s common upgrade to go faster, get better brakes. Rim brakes would make people a little more cautious again...
Rim brakes... are garbage. I leave my rim-brake road bike in the garage when it's wet outside. I take the emtb with discs and pull up easily.
@@Marvin2Shoes agreed, poorer brakes make it harder to stop quickly so you end up slowing down overall. Don’t worry, I’m not evangelical about rim brakes 😂
Loving all these new bikes!
Looks like Chris hall has already got a project 400 on Strava. Have you set one up yet Jimmy
That Colnago is friggin beautiful. They nailed it.
I’m with you let’s do this 🎉 I’m 100kg with a newborn. So great goal for me also. Keep up the ideas that bring the community together
There is already a proper name for gravel bikes, and it's been used for well over a decade, and it's "all-road bike". It's so much more descriptive & accure, as "gravel bikes" tend to start showing weakness when roads disappear and single track starts, but excel over road bikes when you leave smooth tarmac. Jan Heine, the owner of René Herse, wrote a book about it, The All-Road Bike Revolution, which is an excellent & informative read.
If you go by US gravel bike standard with 50mm+ tyres and a dropper post, single track really isn't an issue until you start hitting big drops or deep mud.
never came across hybrid type bike until my last bike that was Trek 420ds _ something. that was somewhere between a mountain bike and a commuter bike?
I do a mix of road and MTB and I set myself a goal of 5hrs a week this year…..and it looks like I’m going to hit the target. With a young daughter and a full time job it wasn’t easy. Any more than 5 hours would take a lot of dedication and effort.
We love our Ninja pizza oven. I'm glad we bought that and an ice cream maker instead of a Colnago hoodie
On the subject of 10,000kms for the year, I rode 10,000 miles for the year, in 2018. Mind you, I was a lot younger then. I was only 68 yearls old, and I was retired, by 2 years. The last 2 years or so have been a tad challenging on the motivational front, but there is really no excuse for challenging myself again, given the time advantage that I have over the vast majority of cyclists.🤞
When you put in that hourly goal, as a person who cycles less than they used too, but excercise more than they used too, in terms of weights, climbing, yoga, running, I am at 380hrs for 2024, with 25 days to go, it wasn't a goal though it is just life! I do about 8 hours a week, but when I cycled, which was more 1-2hrs hard efforts, I only did 4-6 hours a week, if you are getting up to 8 hours a week you are bring in zone 2 stuff which is fine if you enjoy it, but unless you are pro or an endurance rider I prefer to just smash it when I am out, then recover. No one is paying me either way after all!
I wouldn't get too excited about Canyons finishing. It's just a thick layer of filler painted over and it's prone to cracking which can make you think that your frame is cracking... 🥶
Great stuff this week....from the hours on a bike per week (I mix outside, usually about 5 hours on a Saturday and Zwift which is just a sweat session for....(I reckon most of them on there don't get out much 😆), the price comparisons (although I got the flight ticket wrong)...as for the Gravel thing, I don't really get it and I have tried it but I got rid...I'll stick to my hardtail Genesis Tarn. I do agree with Nick on the three category Road, MTB and BMX and they sub category with styles (I used to ride BMX early 80's, MTB and Road)...frankly I feel it's all just about trying to sell something more to people. Lastly, maybe controversial to some but it bores me when people use the term 'fast bike'...there isn't such a thing!..it's about who's on it surely (compare to a car, in a straight line the same person could do the same speed 😏). One final last thing, how about inviting one of your viewers on to a cast, maybe once a month or quarter....could be quite interesting 👍
The Shimano response translated into regular English:
"Oh, bloody hell, ANOTHER leak?!?! Was it bloody Cube again??"
Nick doing a Xmas/ney year gravel ride? I’ll ride from Wigan to join the fun 🎉😂❤
Evaluating training using hours is the only way to do it in my opinion. I live in Florida, where it's very flat to say the least. So if I go ride 40 miles (64km), I may only have a few hundred feet of elevation, and if I'm on either coast, it could be fewer than 50 feet. So time is the only way to go. I've joined in the club for the coming year. It won't be easy making that much time per week, but I think we need to be selfish for our own health and stick to it. Best of luck to all of us.
in regards to the grx 1x that looks to be the 11 speed setup pictured....
Who made Colnago’s capsule collection? The fabric is definitely of good quality. I bought a coat made of Loro Piana fabric and costed more. But, mine has immaculate tailoring & NO brand showing (not for nouveau riche). But if one can afford a SteelNovo, then it’s quite fair that individual wears such clothing (without the brand shown off, though).
"nouveau riche" snobbery much? What about if they just like the logo?
About to hit 40,000km this year, No HT, more than 1,350 hours of maniacal Cycling Devotion 😮💨
Fucking hell, congrats
The canyon Endurace al is falsely advertised in America, you do not get a frame with seamless welds
Badges!! I still have some old rapha badges I’m disappointed they stopped doing that.
Is this all working out or only cycling? Looking at my recorded all activities I’m at 572 hours this year🎉
Some freehubs are crap and hard to service, some aren't. The freehubs on my Fulcrum Racing Sports were poorly sealed and would rust easily, but the ones in my Fulcrum Racing 900's are well sealed, easy to regrease the pawls and durable. I use cheap NOS 26" Shimano wheels on my commute bike. Check the reviews before buying wheels to see how durable and serviceable they are. Learn how to regrease and replace bearings if you want them to last.
Hours target is such a good idea for people like me who ride road, gravel and mountain bike with greatly varying speeds over flat, hilly, rocky terrain. PS I did 9000 miles this year. PPS there is no such bird as a Seagull 😂 they are all different types of gulls.
in regards to making pro cycling safer, why don't they just make them wear motorcycle style suits with protection pads. you could maybe play with the aero as well
And there's the missing XTR Di2 12+ speed. Where's that at?
How about slowing racing by making the big tours self supported bike packing events?
36:38 Alex: MTB riders can't cope with the fact that gravel bikes can be ridden to and from the off -road bits comfortably, and require no more maintenance than a regular bike. Unlike ridiculous bouncy bikes, with suspension bushes, swing arms, etc. that rode like tractors on road.
About slowing cycling down: why not make it (more) self-supported? Eg. mandatory stops to refuel in stead of getting it handed to you. Fix your own mechanical issues to a certain degree. That would make it more exciting and people will want to do their own bike maintenance more "because all the pros can do it too" (sorry Nic...). Or like Formula 1: focus as much on safety as on slowing it down. Especially regarding clothing and technology that protects you when you crash. In F1, the halo and fire-resistant clothing saved Romain Grosjean from instant death and burning alive. Surely by now we're evolved enough as a species to invent some sort of airbag for bikes?
Realistically, to slow the pros...lower gearing. Like juniors have. Or...ban skin suits? Ban power meters? Set a maximum saddle to bar drop?
Just had my Strava yearly report and I recorded 299hrs (still counting). I’m in for your 400 hour target
I’m getting new glasses soon so I’m curious what brand Nic is wearing. I kinda like em.
They are Oakley Centreboards. My prescription is about two years out of date, but I really like them and don’t want to change just yet.
@@NicVieriMechanicthanks! They are nice. Might have to try a pair for myself.
new rules to have only steel bikes on the pro tour would be awesome
I road ride and commute and I take rest in July while on holiday. 591 hours year to date. 😊
I've done 329:54 hours outside on my bike and 54:49 hours indoors this year. So I came close to your 400 hours challenge. And i'm 66 years old. And you think your winters are cold...... Try Central Indiana winters. I ride a Trek Checkpoint SL5 on 45mm Perelli M tires. I don't have mountains here but I do have some hills. I rode 187,423 ft of elevation gained.
Forced to buy bikes with grx but now there going di2 I'll have to start building bikes from scratch.
You guys seem to think the goal of Y1rs should be to be a great bike for people that ride around town at 20kph. That’s quite misguided. The Y1rs is designed purely to win races, and is very appealing to people like myself who race. You guys seem to hat bikes built for this purpose. That’s like me complaining about a mountain bike being prone to getting dirty!
My emtb is my new road bike. It has 29" x 2.6" tyres, dual suspension and weighs 30kg with all racks, bags, spares, tools & water. It has room to store extra stuff at the shops and is actually useful. I regularly get passed by drop bar bikes... that is really their use... beating others by going faster. What an immature reason for a choice of bicycle?
Slow down the peloton?? Make it self supported without radios. Just like Gravel. Get rid of the support vehicles, they're a hazard.