Before you put your thoughts on comments, I have a request. Please choose empathy and be respectful to the guest. Not because he was an ex-British soldier, but because he’s just like anyone’s grandfather, who is sharing his thoughts and opinions of how he perceived the world. You don’t have to agree with him, but you can still choose to be kind. Because we all have that choice ❤
Dear Host, Please don't try emotional blackmail.. Age has nothing to do with mis representation & wrong. For example the old gentleman says he was shocked that MKG was ⚔️assassinated⚔️ by a🕉️and not a☪️or✝️or a🪯or a✡️ The truthqas
Wow! Probably the most unique podcast i have ever seen, seeing a British perspective about India's independence first time, thanks a lot for doing this and sharing this with us.
My mother died on 17th nov 24 . She was 78 yrs and 7 months. The person being interviewed is amazing both physically and mentally. I attribute it to discipline , food and good attitude.
You should stop interrupting your guest dude. The gentleman is mid sentence and you turn the conversation in another direction without letting him finish the thought. So just chill out from next time. And let the guest do more talking and you try to extract more from them rather than showing how much you know.🤷♂️
This gentleman is close to my grandfather's age, if he was still alive. My grandfather was in the British Indian Army around the same time as this person. He had nothing but very fond memories of his British peers and supervisors. He was groomed to be a leader by his British superiors and was commissioned as an officer during WW2. After independence, he was offered to transfer his commission to the British Army and move to England. He chose to stay back and serve his country. The British may have hurt India in a million different ways. But they left India with a professional military that is its pride to this day. Even after Independence Britain helped indian military more than anyone else. Two things can be true simultaneously. British colonization was bad for India whole Britain also left India with great institutions that helped it succeed.
The British called the Indian Civil Service (ICS) as "the Steel frame" which would provide an efficient apolitical administration to serve the best interests of the country. Unfortunately that "steel frame" is now all rusted thanks to incompetent people being recruited under the guise of "social engineering" policies. IN 1962 Nehru in his letter to all the CMs warned of the very adverse impact on India due to these "social engineering " policies, but it was too late. The genie was already out of the bottle !!!!
My great grandfather as well was in the British Indian army and fought in the Burma theatre of WW2 . They were a tremendously inspirational generation.
At this moment I would say we all should appreciate Sahas Chopra cuz he’s one of those guys who got to interview someone who fight in early 1900s. Respect and motivate rather than looking for a mistakes 🙏
Why are you apologetic while asking questions like he is your boss or you're still under british raj? I understand the respect and manner as he is an old person but you were being apologetic for no reason at some points. Y'all are still mentally colonised
@@dad-ms8mztou dont have to generalize. If you spine can flex and you can kneel down to a level where you can smell the dust or his majesties shoe polish. Good for you. Only for you. Don't try to impose tour inferiority complex on others masquerading it in the name of vasudeva kidumbakam.
I have known this amazing man for 50 years. In all that time I have never heard him speak so clearly and passionately on a subject which has been so impactful on who he is a man - a very good person!
It is good to hear, once in a while, someone who lived and believed the official propaganda from all sides. It gives a clear idea of what was the official line.
Good to hear from British soldier...Just one regret that you should have asked him on the reason and proof of his opinion on what are actions of Modi make him Dictator....just because someone care for his country and being Nationalist termed by Woke Westerns as Dictator without giving any proof while their own actions are opposite to what they preach....!!!
Well he is a dictator for his own business friends, and putting his photo everywhere on public paid taxes, to show it as his own. Wannabe ego of a dictator.
He is qualified to have his opinion about Modi. In his lifetime he has seen enough dictators to be able to recognize one. This is called the 'wisdom of experience' and is the core reason that wise old people are treated with respect...they have what no amount of intelligence can replace, the wisdom of experience and a life well lived.
Spare him on this.He is a honest gentleman deserve our respect. He is far removed from Indian politics, he may not even know much about Modi. Let's understand those who hate Modi are high placed officials within western administration not common people. Also as India becomes stronger the powerful nations would try best to pull the leadership down it's there defensive strategy.
How do you live with a clean conscious? I have traveled to over 30 countries but my conscious doesn’t allow me to set foot on British soil. Just curious. Not judging.
@@psantosh3873Let's not pretend like our kind(Indians) are exclusively saints. If history went the other way around(with us conquering European, African, Semitic and other Asian nations), would we hold ourselves to the same level of moral scrutiny? Would we be okay with the others doing the same?
@@psantosh3873and since you are enquiring about a clean conscious, going by your subjective moral standards/line of thinking, you should make sure all your family member and loved ones return from Western, White-majority nations and settle right here in India. Since ... you know, clean conscience and all.
@@TheChampFighter It's not hypothetical. Our influence in SE Asia through Kalinga and Cholas has been relatively saintly. It's not a legacy of subjugation, economic dacoitry but that of genuine trade, cultural and spiritual enrichment.
Just have started watching but I do not agree with him regarding PM Modi and President Trump (I like them both, obviously). I still like how clearly he speaks at this age and it will be interesting to listen to historical points through his perspective. Colonial period was one of the darkest chapters in Indian history but it did have some silver linings to it. The Railways are the greatest example for that. Although built by the British companies and government for their own benefit, they also managed to unify Indians as a side effect. Railways helped India stand back on her feet again after independence. India withoit her railways is unimaginable. Currently, Britain is going through similar tough times too as their own government is increasingly getting oppressive towards its own natives. It is a sad situation overall. I empathise with the British natives because most did not even have a hand in colonisation. The newer generations are completely distant from it. What their government is doing to them is very wrong. Edit - disagree with him about Khalistan being equivalent to Scottish independence movement as well. Khalistan is a terrorist movement not based on any actual history.
As an Indian, I am REALLY REALLY glad Pakistan was created & it’s something I would had wanted to happen, without a doubt, if India wasn’t currently partitioned. The worst part about partition is that they did not all go to Pakistan. That’s the only thing that makes me sad about partition. India would had been so far ahead right now if they would had all moved to Pakistan.
Yes all the favorism based politics of congress would have gone and gandhi family would have more focused on development rather than creating waqf act etc
@ They are responsible for the unrest everyday, engaging in riots everyday, planning terrorist attacks on India & also helping India’s enemies, just imagine how peaceful India would had been without them. Not only that India spends BILLIONS of dollars every year to protect us from the threats that these people create - money that could had been used to help the poor. A peaceful stable society attracts investments & greatly helps the country. We are cursed with this cancer.
One mistake our ancestors did was leaving some behind in our land. Now they have become a threat to our own existence. The stats are disturbing. They say by 2050 they will be about 50cr is a serious existential threat.
Partition happened in 1947 was for good. However the biggest blunder of partition was failure to ensure transfer of the entire Muslim population of current Indian territory to Pakistan in 1947.
Ambedkar wanted wholesale exchange of population,hindus to india and muslims to pakistan.indian leaders encouraged encouraged muslims to stay behind in india, hrnce the problem of hindu muslim friction remains to this day
@@pushpenderrana6190 bro it was never a hindu muslim issue it was always Islamist Issue.......one can never find any riots or any attack initiated by hindus........If anyone has report mention one here
Thank You for this lovely episode. Loved to know about his 3 Idols being an Armyman himself. Absolutely unadulterated information. He may have got some dates here and there but that's bound to happen in such a long journey called life.
Excellent listening to someone who was in the story. He's experience throughout the journey,the language,at a beautiful age and remembering details. What an experience at an early age .Had to grow up suddenly to be in another country and join through and become an adult .What a story,can write a book. Well done sir to get the story from a MAN who was there.God bless you in the years ahead.love from Cape Town. South Africa. 🙏🙏🕉🕉🇮🇳🇮🇳
The Partition Geographical lines were drawn by Cyril Radcliffe sitting in London before doing any PROPER GROUND LEVEL SURVEY 😮 He never visited India Before This RADCLIFFE AWARD !!!
It is interesting that Sardar Patel is mostly forgotten when the names of active figures wanting United (One) India at the time of independence...I'm sure there are many that are missed.
Even though his loyalty lies with the crown since he is from Scotland that's the reason he spoke all these I don't think if he were English he would have spoken all these
Believe it or not, Partition was a blessing in disguise for us. Bhai Pakistan and Bangladesh key Muslims ko kaun jheltaa. Hamara dimaag, international reputation sab khatam ho jaata. Extremist population agar majority mein hota to vaat lagni thi. Yes we lost our land, etc thats upsetting part, partition process was very brutal, lot of killings but imagine all these maniac people in one country, we would have never grown.
An excellent podcast. Very rare and informative. From a person who has lived and witnessed this part of history in real times. A documentary should be made from information one can get from him. It will be valuable lesson for the younger generation.
I mean we as Indians still havent been able to digest the fact that british people were not fully responsible for the partition. India's destiny with partition had already been written the day Islam invaded India. The fall of west and east pakistan was inevitable. Take Afghanistan for example, after it was occcupied and the hindu sikh and Buddhist population was cleansed and converted, the break of from India was confirmed.What we should be concerned about is that why we do not hold our leaders accountable for full population exchange.
@Likha489 you are right britishers did this to every country they were made to leave...Here in Indiabthey were successfully able to create a divide on the basis of religion
My apologies but I've got to say this: I'm assuming you are very young, but do they not teach any partition history in schools in India anymore? I am old and I went to school in India in the 70s before immigrating to the US with my parents. Now, granted, my grandfather was Netaji's protégé (he was a freedom fighter from the age of 15 and went to British jail for 14 years during the independence struggle and he was also later the general secretary of Forward Block) and one of Gandhi and Nehru's close group, but I'm pretty sure I did not hear about the fact that Jinnah was offered the PMO by them from my grandfather. I read about it in history class while in school there. You live in India and went to school there, right? So how do you not know this?! You said "really?!" @28:46 when he mentioned this. That is astounding to me that you would not know this. Do most young people in India not know these facts? Anyway, that is just one example. I feel that you should bone up way more on Partition history before you interview people like this gentleman. Just my opinion. No offense intended. However, I enjoyed this interview and I thank you and appreciate you and your efforts here. He is exactly my beloved late father's age and my father also had this fantastic memory and told me and my brother so much about those years. My grandfather died when I was 21, and we also heard a lot about those years from him. He was the reason my brother and I became history buffs and became economists and journalists. My father would have loved this interview and watched it over and over again. So, thank you again, so much.
What Mr. Godse said about killing of Gandhiji was.. because of Gandhiji, the India got partitioned and Muslims got an independent country, even after large scale massacre of Hindus under Muslims.
Very thankful to bring this interview and having to know some insights from the days of independence through Scottish eyes. Why do you interfere the narrative with odd questions in between? Yes you do have to redirect a narrative at certain times but off the wall questions does not fit in. And why are you so apologetic for a question to be asked? A Journalist is there to ask a question, and not to apologize as it sounds like you’re saying sorry on behalf of 1.4 billion people.
The Policy of Discrimination against Indian Subjects was Created by The British Ruling class and not by Ordinary Soldiers! This Gentlemen is extraordinarily Courteous and really liked INDIA 😮
Punjab and India are different from England and Scotland! Unlike them, there was no fighting between Punjab and India. And for Khalistan.. we now realize that The Khalisthan will be certainty in Truedo's Canada. Never in India because Sikhs belong to India! Also, Bharath basically and originally belongs to Hindus, Budhist, Sikhs, Jains and other indigenous people
See we’re humans and as individuals we all make mistakes, the point is that this person is here to share his thoughts and experiences, let’s not start judging and spread hate it’s already too much. Let’s not be like Pakistani’s and be respectful to elderly
Host chose to lay grass on a ground that had a gold mine just underneath it. Missed opportunity to stick to a topic long enough to extract sufficient perspective and understanding of events.
Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" by scholar Nasim Yousaf ruclips.net/video/F5kE4AlRsi4/видео.html
No disrespect to your guest but he doesn't know the difference btw Hindi and Urdu. And you missed on a very very important question that who as per him got INDIA her independence, was it non violence, violence or was it poor financial situation of Britain.
The threat of violence, lack of other resources to bring to bear against the soldiers who were by then by and large behind the quit India movement, the vast number of trained and war hardened soldiers with experience conducting guerrilla warfare. These were practical considerations.
Why are you sorry, stop being sorry, they had no remorse and they havent even apologised till date as a country for all the atrocities commited, what on earth are you apologising for ?
British generally treated all Indians with contempt. However, since they took power from Muslims, they considered Muslims as their main competitors for paramountcy in subcontinent. Thus, their treatment of Muslims was brutal as well. In addition they had ancient animosity going back to crusades. From a Hindu point of view, they simply exchanged one foreign overlord for another.
That is the Pakistani narrative. However, Mughals were already in decline after 1707 and for much of the 18th century, it was the Marathas, a Hindu group, that were the most powerful empire in India. The British finished them off and gained pan-India power by 1818, excluding Punjab. The point you miss is that already during the latter part of the Mughal empire, the Hindus were increasingly resurgent and this resurgence continued with the Maratha ascendency and when they fell, the Hindu resurgence continued under the British while the Muslims were in decline since loss of Mughal power. It is this continued Muslim decline which is also the cause of the failure of Pakistan as a viable state.
Battles of Plassey, Buxar, Mangalore, Srirangapatnam and many other battles, British fought against Muslims not Marhattas. EIC recognized Moghul king as sovereign till 1857. The last great enemy of British was Tipu sultan. It was Moghul king they jailed at Rangoon. As for Marhattas, by 1707 they were crushed. Not a single Marhatta held any ground. All were in grave or in Moghul employment. They did rise up again but were crushed at Panipat in 1761. They rose again but surrendered at Basein in early 1800s to EIC. It was game over. All Marhattas surrendered. In middle 1700s Marhattas did make a strong stand. Some sided with certain Moghul nobles in Moghul civil wars. But at no time Marhattas held any ground long enough to make any difference. Only one instance of Marhattas unity was at battle of Khadla agaisnt Nizam in 1795. Accounts of EIC were mostly lies to advance their commerce. Almost all of history till early 1800s come to us from Muslim writers. Even today if you don’t know Persian or Urdu and have access to those ancient books it’s not possible to learn history properly.
Marhattas helped British against Tipu. Marhattas tacitly sided with British against Nizam. Their scorched earth policies bankrupted the land. Except for one or two Marhatta chiefs rest were mere bandits. Every single Marhatta submitted to British and recieved pensions for their betrayal. In the end we, Hindu and Muslim, alike lost. India is on its way to Hindu Rashtra, in practice it has become one, which does not bode well for future. Pakistan is a work in progress. Grave yards of history full of those who underestimated the musalmaan. Punjab, Bengal, Sindh, Kashmir, Baluch, just sample of nations which became Muslim majority.
Forgot about the Maratha century 1719, when Bajirao was at the gates of Delhi, - to 1803? It was from the Marathas that the British took the throne of India not the puppet Muslim “Mughal”.
In 1803 Baji Rao II, was a puppet, sometimes under British and other times under some Marhattas chief, he fought against Schindia the Marhattas raja. Moghul king at this time was Shah Alam II, also under British. Schindia won this war but they all lost soon. But at no time any Marhatta was ever crowned as king in Delhi. Moghuls, albeit as British puppets, remained the kings till 1857. It’s a tale of cowardice, both Hindus and Muslims were puppets. Marhattas after a brief flare up surrendered at Basien in early 1800s.
Why these guys are not punished yet ? Where are human rights courts ? If they can punish german japanese why not these guys who did horrible stuff being a colonist dictator force
Respect this ex soldier for speaking the truth. Would have loved to listen to him in the flow rather than interviewers constant interruptions leading to subject deviations which prevented us for listening to what he had to say detail and in a chronological manner. Work on your interviewing skills and be patient in listening after one completes what he's conveying; and only then ask questions
Modi and autocratic?! May be he got that from bbc. 🤔. Would not agree with most he said about modern india🤷♂️ but great conversation none the less. One for the ithihasa locker.🙏
He is qualified to have his opinion about Modi. In his lifetime he has seen enough dictators to be able to recognize one. This is called the 'wisdom of experience' and is the core reason that wise old people are treated with respect...they have what no amount of intelligence can replace, the wisdom of experience and a life well lived.
@ it is called bias based on half knowledge obtained through misinforming pricks like the bbc my friend. Don’t try to blow your own horn. I respect him just don’t agree with him because I realize he is misinformed. But you should know better. Is being a barking dog for leftist deep state that fun? 😏
While mentioning Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev and Rajguru, please also remember Masterda Surya Sen, Khudiram Bose, Matangini Hajra, Ramprasad Bismil, Ashfaqulla Khan, Chandrasekhar Azad and such great heroes. You shall not able to count them.
16:03 - Subhash chandra bose was the mayor of Kolkata, president of "Indian national congress" , founder of "forward block". He escaped from jail and travelled to Germany through Pak, afgan , russia and then reached japan to take leadership of INA. INA soldiers were former british Indian army soldiers.
My friend, let the gentleman finish! You did cut him off in quite a few important moments and derailed the topic. It’s hard for audience to keep up with the quick changes while trying to process the information as it flows. A cluttered information is as good as no information!
If you are going to interview someone, at least know the subject you are going to talk about. This interviewer is not well informed about even the basics of h/o independence. And only the best about this interview is the humility of the Scottsman.
Kohinoor is a media created hype. Once upon a time , few decades back India was poor economy and the value Kohinoor sounded huge. As if that was the most precious indian treasure. Its not the same today, we have to see kohinoor together with the entire Indiian historical treasures, exhibits and articles in the national museums in UK and elsewhere as our rightful heritage, it should be displayed in India as they represent Indian history culture and civilization.
My mother died on 17th nov 24 . She was 98 and 7monthsThe person being interviewed is amazing both physically and mentally. I attribute it to discipline , food and good attitude.
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Before you put your thoughts on comments, I have a request.
Please choose empathy and be respectful to the guest. Not because he was an ex-British soldier, but because he’s just like anyone’s grandfather, who is sharing his thoughts and opinions of how he perceived the world. You don’t have to agree with him, but you can still choose to be kind. Because we all have that choice ❤
Dear Host, Please don't try emotional blackmail.. Age has nothing to do with mis representation & wrong. For example the old gentleman says he was shocked that MKG was ⚔️assassinated⚔️ by a🕉️and not a☪️or✝️or a🪯or a✡️
The truthqas
first have s spine & pride in who you're
Love your views and outlook. Am subscribing now❤❤
Very matured thinking
@@Zabeen_UnyissaHe is right...
He is among the last of a generation with a very honest opinion. His thoughts should be recorded . We are lucky to have with us.
How do u know he’s being honest?
He is anything but honest.
@@RojaJaneman
Exactly..... Reality is much more complicated than what majority of the population can ever comprehend!!
Download it. Recorded.
@@RojaJanemanbecause He is not thinking like some one taught his brain to How to think.
The man is so healthy and for for his age. Respect
Wow! Probably the most unique podcast i have ever seen, seeing a British perspective about India's independence first time, thanks a lot for doing this and sharing this with us.
I'm glad you like it 🙏
@@sahaschopraTruly , this was something unique and one of a kind . Keep it up !
My mother died on 17th nov 24 . She was 78 yrs and 7 months. The person being interviewed is amazing both physically and mentally. I attribute it to discipline , food and good attitude.
I wish to be as bright, sparkling and youthful at 98. Hats of to you Sir.
You should stop interrupting your guest dude. The gentleman is mid sentence and you turn the conversation in another direction without letting him finish the thought. So just chill out from next time. And let the guest do more talking and you try to extract more from them rather than showing how much you know.🤷♂️
Exactly 💯 correct. Offecier trying to say something and this guy going to different topics in intermittently
He Was posted in Madras cantonment Probably Fort St George Chennai (Madras ) in 1940 -Amazing Memory this Wonderful British Soldier
This gentleman is close to my grandfather's age, if he was still alive. My grandfather was in the British Indian Army around the same time as this person. He had nothing but very fond memories of his British peers and supervisors. He was groomed to be a leader by his British superiors and was commissioned as an officer during WW2. After independence, he was offered to transfer his commission to the British Army and move to England. He chose to stay back and serve his country. The British may have hurt India in a million different ways. But they left India with a professional military that is its pride to this day. Even after Independence Britain helped indian military more than anyone else. Two things can be true simultaneously. British colonization was bad for India whole Britain also left India with great institutions that helped it succeed.
Unfortunately only the Military remains incorrupt all the other government institutions,Police being the worst are corrupted.
The British called the Indian Civil Service (ICS) as "the Steel frame" which would provide an efficient apolitical administration to serve the best interests of the country. Unfortunately that "steel frame" is now all rusted thanks to incompetent people being recruited under the guise of "social engineering" policies. IN 1962 Nehru in his letter to all the CMs warned of the very adverse impact on India due to these "social engineering " policies, but it was too late. The genie was already out of the bottle !!!!
My great grandfather as well was in the British Indian army and fought in the Burma theatre of WW2 . They were a tremendously inspirational generation.
Serving in your colonisers army - with good views about your colonisers …don’t know what to make out of it.
At this moment I would say we all should appreciate Sahas Chopra cuz he’s one of those guys who got to interview someone who fight in early 1900s. Respect and motivate rather than looking for a mistakes 🙏
Why are you apologetic while asking questions like he is your boss or you're still under british raj? I understand the respect and manner as he is an old person but you were being apologetic for no reason at some points. Y'all are still mentally colonised
Can you mention time stamps
He is trying to be respectful, its not being apologetic. He is not trying to force his opinions on the guest while expressing his views.
I am Indian and there is nothing wrong. We will treat everyone well and with love and respect.
And everyone is the worst on the battlefield.
@@dad-ms8mztou dont have to generalize. If you spine can flex and you can kneel down to a level where you can smell the dust or his majesties shoe polish. Good for you. Only for you. Don't try to impose tour inferiority complex on others masquerading it in the name of vasudeva kidumbakam.
19:20@@SayanDas-fi9fn
You are not letting him to complete his answer and asking another question
My humble request is to let the guest speak completely before disturbing with a new question In between please
I have known this amazing man for 50 years. In all that time I have never heard him speak so clearly and passionately on a subject which has been so impactful on who he is a man - a very good person!
Sounds suspicious
Very interesting conversation. 98 years old….😮he is very smart for his age
Biden is jealous of him 🤣
Excellent conversation, very good gentleman, nice to hear him Dr. James M. Neilson
It is good to hear, once in a while, someone who lived and believed the official propaganda from all sides. It gives a clear idea of what was the official line.
Good to hear from British soldier...Just one regret that you should have asked him on the reason and proof of his opinion on what are actions of Modi make him Dictator....just because someone care for his country and being Nationalist termed by Woke Westerns as Dictator without giving any proof while their own actions are opposite to what they preach....!!!
TRUE THAT 👍
Well he is a dictator for his own business friends,
and putting his photo everywhere on public paid taxes, to show it as his own.
Wannabe ego of a dictator.
He is qualified to have his opinion about Modi. In his lifetime he has seen enough dictators to be able to recognize one. This is called the 'wisdom of experience' and is the core reason that wise old people are treated with respect...they have what no amount of intelligence can replace, the wisdom of experience and a life well lived.
See what’s happening in Manipur. 😉
Spare him on this.He is a honest gentleman deserve our respect. He is far removed from Indian politics, he may not even know much about Modi. Let's understand those who hate Modi are high placed officials within western administration not common people. Also as India becomes stronger the powerful nations would try best to pull the leadership down it's there defensive strategy.
Some of us are British born Indians I’m so connected to this it’s mind boggling
How do you live with a clean conscious? I have traveled to over 30 countries but my conscious doesn’t allow me to set foot on British soil. Just curious. Not judging.
@@psantosh3873 I'd just ignore it. I say don't be jaded, don't be sorry, but be better.
@@psantosh3873Let's not pretend like our kind(Indians) are exclusively saints. If history went the other way around(with us conquering European, African, Semitic and other Asian nations), would we hold ourselves to the same level of moral scrutiny? Would we be okay with the others doing the same?
@@psantosh3873and since you are enquiring about a clean conscious, going by your subjective moral standards/line of thinking, you should make sure all your family member and loved ones return from Western, White-majority nations and settle right here in India. Since ... you know, clean conscience and all.
@@TheChampFighter It's not hypothetical. Our influence in SE Asia through Kalinga and Cholas has been relatively saintly. It's not a legacy of subjugation, economic dacoitry but that of genuine trade, cultural and spiritual enrichment.
Vibrant and sharp for a 98 uear old. I wish him the best and thank him for sharing.
He is the sweetest! It was a privilege to meet him 😊
jake godh lele phir
Indian Slave.
We Indians have to learn about humility from this gem of a gentleman! My heartfelt salutations to him!
Just have started watching but I do not agree with him regarding PM Modi and President Trump (I like them both, obviously). I still like how clearly he speaks at this age and it will be interesting to listen to historical points through his perspective.
Colonial period was one of the darkest chapters in Indian history but it did have some silver linings to it. The Railways are the greatest example for that. Although built by the British companies and government for their own benefit, they also managed to unify Indians as a side effect. Railways helped India stand back on her feet again after independence. India withoit her railways is unimaginable.
Currently, Britain is going through similar tough times too as their own government is increasingly getting oppressive towards its own natives. It is a sad situation overall. I empathise with the British natives because most did not even have a hand in colonisation. The newer generations are completely distant from it. What their government is doing to them is very wrong.
Edit - disagree with him about Khalistan being equivalent to Scottish independence movement as well. Khalistan is a terrorist movement not based on any actual history.
thetechnocrat4979 you don't know anything about the history of Punjab
This guy was 20 year old during freedom. No way he had any idea
Gandhi was a Bane, is a Bane will always be a Bane .....he single handedly destroyed the fighting spirit of Indians and made them meek
The gentleman is very well articulated. I like how he can have conflicting opinions in his head, evident by his thoughts on Scotland and Khalistan.
As an Indian, I am REALLY REALLY glad Pakistan was created & it’s something I would had wanted to happen, without a doubt, if India wasn’t currently partitioned. The worst part about partition is that they did not all go to Pakistan. That’s the only thing that makes me sad about partition. India would had been so far ahead right now if they would had all moved to Pakistan.
Should have done a 100% population exchange & banned that cult in India.
Yes all the favorism based politics of congress would have gone and gandhi family would have more focused on development rather than creating waqf act etc
@ They are responsible for the unrest everyday, engaging in riots everyday, planning terrorist attacks on India & also helping India’s enemies, just imagine how peaceful India would had been without them. Not only that India spends BILLIONS of dollars every year to protect us from the threats that these people create - money that could had been used to help the poor. A peaceful stable society attracts investments & greatly helps the country. We are cursed with this cancer.
One mistake our ancestors did was leaving some behind in our land. Now they have become a threat to our own existence. The stats are disturbing. They say by 2050 they will be about 50cr is a serious existential threat.
😮😮😮
Partition happened in 1947 was for good. However the biggest blunder of partition was failure to ensure transfer of the entire Muslim population of current Indian territory to Pakistan in 1947.
Ambedkar wanted wholesale exchange of population,hindus to india and muslims to pakistan.indian leaders encouraged encouraged muslims to stay behind in india, hrnce the problem of hindu muslim friction remains to this day
@@pushpenderrana6190 bro it was never a hindu muslim issue it was always Islamist Issue.......one can never find any riots or any attack initiated by hindus........If anyone has report mention one here
Inciteful comment.
YES ALL MUSLIMS SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED LEFT FREAKING PROBLEMS BY M GANDTHI n FREAKING MUSLIM NEHRU....
Exactly
Thank you Dr. James M Neilson for sharing your story. Thank you for giving back that history. And thank you Sahas for bringing this all together.
Thank You for this lovely episode. Loved to know about his 3 Idols being an Armyman himself. Absolutely unadulterated information. He may have got some dates here and there but that's bound to happen in such a long journey called life.
A talking ledger of British Raj History
In the ward round one day, this elderly English man apologised saying- I am sorry what we did to India and folded his hands.
Dr. James is an absolute treasure 👏👏👌
Really wonderful, a great job, well done and Thank You.
The interviewer is an idiot. He doesn't now why Godse killed Gandhi. Because Gandhi was British agent. I just wasted my time for this video.
Idiots claims have no factual basis. Given what you claim, and the lack of factual support, you are one such.
Excellent listening to someone who was in the story. He's experience throughout the journey,the language,at a beautiful age and remembering details. What an experience at an early age .Had to grow up suddenly to be in another country and join through and become an adult .What a story,can write a book. Well done sir to get the story from a MAN who was there.God bless you in the years ahead.love from Cape Town. South Africa. 🙏🙏🕉🕉🇮🇳🇮🇳
❤❤❤ Stop interrupting and let him complete his answers
The Partition Geographical lines were drawn by Cyril Radcliffe sitting in London before doing any PROPER GROUND LEVEL SURVEY 😮 He never visited India Before This RADCLIFFE AWARD !!!
It is interesting that Sardar Patel is mostly forgotten when the names of active figures wanting United (One) India at the time of independence...I'm sure there are many that are missed.
knowing the history ..who lived in thous times...amazing interview... thx
He is a Gandhian and if he is a Gandhian he is truly a BRITISH
Yes as Gandhi worked for British
Even though his loyalty lies with the crown since he is from Scotland that's the reason he spoke all these I don't think if he were English he would have spoken all these
Please start with a complement for a person of his age
Believe it or not, Partition was a blessing in disguise for us. Bhai Pakistan and Bangladesh key Muslims ko kaun jheltaa. Hamara dimaag, international reputation sab khatam ho jaata. Extremist population agar majority mein hota to vaat lagni thi. Yes we lost our land, etc thats upsetting part, partition process was very brutal, lot of killings but imagine all these maniac people in one country, we would have never grown.
We would have been doomed, can't even imagine
Jinhone woh desh banaye woh to desh me hi reh gaye na 🤦♀️
@@RojaJaneman yepp😔
@@Singh-nt3xrNehru and gandhi is responsible for unfinished partition
True, a blessing in disguise.
An excellent podcast. Very rare and informative. From a person who has lived and witnessed this part of history in real times. A documentary should be made from information one can get from him. It will be valuable lesson for the younger generation.
Absolutely! I’m glad you enjoyed it. Every Indian must watch this. Please share if you can ❤🙌
U think he’s gonna tell u d truth??
I mean we as Indians still havent been able to digest the fact that british people were not fully responsible for the partition. India's destiny with partition had already been written the day Islam invaded India. The fall of west and east pakistan was inevitable. Take Afghanistan for example, after it was occcupied and the hindu sikh and Buddhist population was cleansed and converted, the break of from India was confirmed.What we should be concerned about is that why we do not hold our leaders accountable for full population exchange.
British were fully responsible for Partition in India and many other parts of the world
@Likha489 Nah man I wish I could say this was completely true.
@@Likha489you never learned history for sure
@Likha489 you are right britishers did this to every country they were made to leave...Here in Indiabthey were successfully able to create a divide on the basis of religion
@@gauravsolanki4249 😂 dont accept anything that comes from the British as true
Old soilder narrates the events beautifully
As a fellow dr. This gentleman has some interesting stories. 😊
Great interview mr sahas chopra.loved this interview i wish it was two three hours interview.love from canada 👍👍👍👍👍👍
My apologies but I've got to say this: I'm assuming you are very young, but do they not teach any partition history in schools in India anymore? I am old and I went to school in India in the 70s before immigrating to the US with my parents. Now, granted, my grandfather was Netaji's protégé (he was a freedom fighter from the age of 15 and went to British jail for 14 years during the independence struggle and he was also later the general secretary of Forward Block) and one of Gandhi and Nehru's close group, but I'm pretty sure I did not hear about the fact that Jinnah was offered the PMO by them from my grandfather. I read about it in history class while in school there. You live in India and went to school there, right? So how do you not know this?! You said "really?!" @28:46 when he mentioned this. That is astounding to me that you would not know this. Do most young people in India not know these facts? Anyway, that is just one example. I feel that you should bone up way more on Partition history before you interview people like this gentleman. Just my opinion. No offense intended. However, I enjoyed this interview and I thank you and appreciate you and your efforts here. He is exactly my beloved late father's age and my father also had this fantastic memory and told me and my brother so much about those years. My grandfather died when I was 21, and we also heard a lot about those years from him. He was the reason my brother and I became history buffs and became economists and journalists. My father would have loved this interview and watched it over and over again. So, thank you again, so much.
What Mr. Godse said about killing of Gandhiji was.. because of Gandhiji, the India got partitioned and Muslims got an independent country, even after large scale massacre of Hindus under Muslims.
Very thankful to bring this interview and having to know some insights from the days of independence through Scottish eyes.
Why do you interfere the narrative with odd questions in between? Yes you do have to redirect a narrative at certain times but off the wall questions does not fit in.
And why are you so apologetic for a question to be asked? A Journalist is there to ask a question, and not to apologize as it sounds like you’re saying sorry on behalf of 1.4 billion people.
The Policy of Discrimination against Indian Subjects was Created by The British Ruling class and not by Ordinary Soldiers! This Gentlemen is extraordinarily Courteous and really liked INDIA 😮
Punjab and India are different from England and Scotland! Unlike them, there was no fighting between Punjab and India.
And for Khalistan.. we now realize that The Khalisthan will be certainty in Truedo's Canada. Never in India because Sikhs belong to India! Also, Bharath basically and originally belongs to Hindus, Budhist, Sikhs, Jains and other indigenous people
...brilliant man 🥰🥰 such a great find and articulation 👏👏🥰🥰❤❤
See we’re humans and as individuals we all make mistakes, the point is that this person is here to share his thoughts and experiences, let’s not start judging and spread hate it’s already too much. Let’s not be like Pakistani’s and be respectful to elderly
Well said. We can have disagreements with each other and can talk them through in a civil manner but we should never forget each other's humanity.
Host chose to lay grass on a ground that had a gold mine just underneath it. Missed opportunity to stick to a topic long enough to extract sufficient perspective and understanding of events.
Congrats to Sahas Chopra fr organising this kind if Podcast
This is real history......the podcast sheds light on crucial topics of British -Indian history.
Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" by scholar Nasim Yousaf
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@@ViewsNewsChannelbhai pakistanio k reference nahi bech to acha hai.....pehle apni school ki kitabe thik karlo.......
@@prb392pakistani bolte hai ki Britisher ko bhagane mai hamare log mare pata nhi wo konse log the😂😂.
😂 nope hes running cover for there stooge Ghandi
No it doesn't if host is not interrupting
No disrespect to your guest but he doesn't know the difference btw Hindi and Urdu.
And you missed on a very very important question that who as per him got INDIA her independence, was it non violence, violence or was it poor financial situation of Britain.
The threat of violence, lack of other resources to bring to bear against the soldiers who were by then by and large behind the quit India movement, the vast number of trained and war hardened soldiers with experience conducting guerrilla warfare. These were practical considerations.
THANK YOU SAHAS FOR THIS PODCAST AND IM GLAD THAT I MET A WONDERULL MAN
Why are you sorry, stop being sorry, they had no remorse and they havent even apologised till date as a country for all the atrocities commited, what on earth are you apologising for ?
An oldSoldier and an old Doctor fades away.
Great Podcast Sahas !Excellent. Best wishes to Dr Neilson
British generally treated all Indians with contempt. However, since they took power from Muslims, they considered Muslims as their main competitors for paramountcy in subcontinent. Thus, their treatment of Muslims was brutal as well. In addition they had ancient animosity going back to crusades.
From a Hindu point of view, they simply exchanged one foreign overlord for another.
That is the Pakistani narrative. However, Mughals were already in decline after 1707 and for much of the 18th century, it was the Marathas, a Hindu group, that were the most powerful empire in India. The British finished them off and gained pan-India power by 1818, excluding Punjab. The point you miss is that already during the latter part of the Mughal empire, the Hindus were increasingly resurgent and this resurgence continued with the Maratha ascendency and when they fell, the Hindu resurgence continued under the British while the Muslims were in decline since loss of Mughal power. It is this continued Muslim decline which is also the cause of the failure of Pakistan as a viable state.
Battles of Plassey, Buxar, Mangalore, Srirangapatnam and many other battles, British fought against Muslims not Marhattas. EIC recognized Moghul king as sovereign till 1857. The last great enemy of British was Tipu sultan. It was Moghul king they jailed at Rangoon.
As for Marhattas, by 1707 they were crushed. Not a single Marhatta held any ground. All were in grave or in Moghul employment. They did rise up again but were crushed at Panipat in 1761. They rose again but surrendered at Basein in early 1800s to EIC. It was game over. All Marhattas surrendered. In middle 1700s Marhattas did make a strong stand. Some sided with certain Moghul nobles in Moghul civil wars. But at no time Marhattas held any ground long enough to make any difference. Only one instance of Marhattas unity was at battle of Khadla agaisnt Nizam in 1795.
Accounts of EIC were mostly lies to advance their commerce. Almost all of history till early 1800s come to us from Muslim writers. Even today if you don’t know Persian or Urdu and have access to those ancient books it’s not possible to learn history properly.
Marhattas helped British against Tipu. Marhattas tacitly sided with British against Nizam. Their scorched earth policies bankrupted the land. Except for one or two Marhatta chiefs rest were mere bandits. Every single Marhatta submitted to British and recieved pensions for their betrayal. In the end we, Hindu and Muslim, alike lost. India is on its way to Hindu Rashtra, in practice it has become one, which does not bode well for future. Pakistan is a work in progress. Grave yards of history full of those who underestimated the musalmaan. Punjab, Bengal, Sindh, Kashmir, Baluch, just sample of nations which became Muslim majority.
Forgot about the Maratha century 1719, when Bajirao was at the gates of Delhi, - to 1803? It was from the Marathas that the British took the throne of India not the puppet Muslim “Mughal”.
In 1803 Baji Rao II, was a puppet, sometimes under British and other times under some Marhattas chief, he fought against Schindia the Marhattas raja. Moghul king at this time was Shah Alam II, also under British. Schindia won this war but they all lost soon. But at no time any Marhatta was ever crowned as king in Delhi. Moghuls, albeit as British puppets, remained the kings till 1857. It’s a tale of cowardice, both Hindus and Muslims were puppets. Marhattas after a brief flare up surrendered at Basien in early 1800s.
The pain in his eyes when talking about the regret 💔
A refreshing interview by chpra with an honest british soldier thankyou you James Neilson
Why these guys are not punished yet ?
Where are human rights courts ?
If they can punish german japanese why not these guys who did horrible stuff being a colonist dictator force
I've loved this conversation with the Scottish Gentleman.
Scottish people do not like Brits!
Respect this ex soldier for speaking the truth. Would have loved to listen to him in the flow rather than interviewers constant interruptions leading to subject deviations which prevented us for listening to what he had to say detail and in a chronological manner. Work on your interviewing skills and be patient in listening after one completes what he's conveying; and only then ask questions
Modi and autocratic?! May be he got that from bbc. 🤔. Would not agree with most he said about modern india🤷♂️ but great conversation none the less. One for the ithihasa locker.🙏
Lol he still used a word apt for a podcast, off camera he would have surely used a harsher word and that's the truth
He is qualified to have his opinion about Modi. In his lifetime he has seen enough dictators to be able to recognize one. This is called the 'wisdom of experience' and is the core reason that wise old people are treated with respect...they have what no amount of intelligence can replace, the wisdom of experience and a life well lived.
@ it is called bias based on half knowledge obtained through misinforming pricks like the bbc my friend. Don’t try to blow your own horn. I respect him just don’t agree with him because I realize he is misinformed. But you should know better. Is being a barking dog for leftist deep state that fun? 😏
@ don’t misrepresent my opinion of him.
Are you a Andh bhagat as well?
Thank you sir for sharing your experience in India.
Wow this man is a wwii veteran
We are the last generation who can talk to them😢
Until you’ve been to India you ain’t gonna realize what the virtue of life is!
WHY WAS URDU THE LANGUAGE WHEN THEY ARE IN HINDU BHARAT...?,??
Haha a Colonial legacy which they carried on
Excellent worth seeing this podcast. Finally real history can be known.
While mentioning Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev and Rajguru, please also remember Masterda Surya Sen, Khudiram Bose, Matangini Hajra, Ramprasad Bismil, Ashfaqulla Khan, Chandrasekhar Azad and such great heroes. You shall not able to count them.
Any leader in india should remember they are sanatani then other. No punjabi want khalistan .
When this soldier say Mahatma Gandhi, it sounds more like "Muhammad Gandhi"... 😜
Bro I do not know about the others, but to me this was “frank from the horse’s mouth”.
May you get more of such people on your talk show.
so many interesting topics in this podcast, very eye opening and knowladgble conversations, respect for them and i’m very proud to be an indian 🇮🇳🫡
Yes sir 🫡🇮🇳
Please ask him about Chittagong, Khulna and rangpur...those are integral part of our india 😭@@sahaschopra
The moment he said Gandhi is is hero, I left the podcast
16:03 - Subhash chandra bose was the mayor of Kolkata, president of "Indian national congress" , founder of "forward block". He escaped from jail and travelled to Germany through Pak, afgan , russia and then reached japan to take leadership of INA. INA soldiers were former british Indian army soldiers.
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My friend, let the gentleman finish! You did cut him off in quite a few important moments and derailed the topic. It’s hard for audience to keep up with the quick changes while trying to process the information as it flows. A cluttered information is as good as no information!
Amazing interview!
His Urdu is just like how it was shown in movies.... 😅
I was taken by surprise when he started speaking. It was so good! ❤
Hindi
@@Anmoljainn did you not listen to the conversation?
First about sikh we are sanatani dharam then sikh , Buddhism.
Chup lindu
this is big ... thankyou sahas !
Anchor is seen jumping on time scale back and forth and shooting questions abruptly ending the guest's answers.
And also Mr.technocrat you should be thankful to British who merged different nations and gave you a country called India
Woah. Great podcast!
The way you talking with this person is truly reflects that mentally you are still colonized.
EXCELLENT ! THANKS ! SAHAS CHOPRA. WOW ! DR. JAMES NEILSON . 98 yrs. YEEKS ! FASCINATING STORIES Indeed ! FROM, THE UNITED KINGDOM. (2024).
Gonna get millions of view for sure❤
Going back to history from the real one.
Wow, never knew this perspective.
Yes, it is quite a unique perspective.
Enjoyable interview. Very sharp for his age
If you are going to interview someone, at least know the subject you are going to talk about. This interviewer is not well informed about even the basics of h/o independence. And only the best about this interview is the humility of the Scottsman.
Excellent Scholary Scottish Man If I am Right
Kohinoor is a media created hype. Once upon a time , few decades back India was poor economy and the value Kohinoor sounded huge. As if that was the most precious indian treasure. Its not the same today, we have to see kohinoor together with the entire Indiian historical treasures, exhibits and articles in the national museums in UK and elsewhere as our rightful heritage, it should be displayed in India as they represent Indian history culture and civilization.
My mother died on 17th nov 24 . She was 98 and 7monthsThe person being interviewed is amazing both physically and mentally. I attribute it to discipline , food and good attitude.