@@TmcksnT there's a difference in "not knowing" and players not even following their own instructions after communicating though. no one expects Rasmus to be a top-tier defender at the back, but the fact that Bruno pointed and told Rasmus to defend the man in front of him, only for them to both commit to the ball as soon as it's passed off is...comical. There has to to be some baseline when it comes to defending. Defending is done as a team, up and down every table in every league. If you can't or don't defend as a team, you ship goals. It's not the sole responsibility of the defenders to protect the goal.
@@th3doorMatt I know I'm just saying I'm not surprised to see he was confused or seemed uncultured in that moment. It's like having a go at Maguire for not finishing a one on one.
@@docgraal485 'if a player was standing here and not there then xyz wouldnt happen' the basis of 99 percent of "tactical" hipster videos. It's like watching someone say to a bricklayer, just lay more bricks and the house will be bigger, everyone likes a bigger house!'
Ten hag ball has always been like that. People are finding this now bc most of them only watched Ajax at ucl but it was the same there. The only difference was Ajax offence were very good and their technical floor was way higher than uniteds. This way they could control games and transition quickly plus the technicality.
ETH got given £400M to sign players to raise the technical floor and he absolutely wasted it. Signed Casie as FDJ type progressor, signed Mount as a creative mid when the guy barely has a creative bone in his body. Also refused to play Donny, sent Pellestri and Alvarez on loan who are all technical players. Fell out with Sancho too. The guy should just leave for his own peace of mind not mine.
@@iwantgoals1566lost ur point 4 words in, he doesn’t spend the money, he got some players he wanted, and most others have been 2nd choices, over payed and are injured
I still can't discern if it's ten Hag being poor tactically or the players having zero tactical intelligence. Most diplomatic answer will be somewhere in the middle. But I trust ten Hag is a tactically astute coach with his proven record at Ajax (people were drooling over his Ajax and often remarked that's how Man Utd should play). The players, well, they've proven record of frustrating 3 previous managers and 1 current manager.
Under ole we mentioned players most of this players had gone pogba and Co even martial not even playing, tactically ten hag is clueless, he can't adapt with premier league football, he is not creative enough.
@@vidalgutierrez1736Can’t Agree with that becuase premier League is the most physically demanding league which means the football is faster, stronger and more intense. Great example is bringing Antony and Donny from Ajax and they can’t really handle the league, Antony doesn’t do much and gets pushed off the ball like a fly, Donny was just never involved in the game, even at Everton football was too fast. Spanish league is less phsycial but it’s more creative passing and playstyle or at least in my opinion.
The weird thing to me is that last season Ten Hag turned Man U around and they got 3rd place and Champions League when all the pundits (and me) said it would take years to sort out the mess. Now that he has actually been able to bring in a few of his desired players, they are actually playing worse.
I simply don't understand how he seemed so clear-eyed and decisive last season and is floundering like this now. I can only imagine Casemiro had one phenomenal season left in his legs, and Ten Hag made full use of that. Because the system isn't very different than it was last. Also Rashford, whose drop off a cliff I do not understand -- in terms of goals and assists, he always alternates between good and bad in consecutive seasons, but he has always run his socks off. He is now the worst presser in the league probably.
@@souradeepsengupta95 Yes, it is strange isn't it. I've seen it suggested that his system with a high press needs a mobile back 4 and he hasn't got that without Martinez, leaving massive midfield gaps. Interesting point about Casemiro. It seems as if key players are missing and his preferred system doesn't work, he hasn't got a Plan B. With Rashford I wonder if he's simply fallen out of love with football. He sometimes gets the inspiration again - as for a period under Ten Hag - but then loses it. Snag is that talent isn't enough at the highest level, you need dedication too, and it doesn't feel as if the Man U atmosphere in recent years has encouraged this. That being said it's amazing how they have pulled out some late comebacks - but also late capitulations.
So what? Ole did the same, Mark Goldbridge said Ole should get a statue if he got top 4. He got 3rd and 2nd the first two seasons, where we thought it would take a decade to replace such a incompetent squad and atmosphere. + a bunch of semi finals and finals with a squad EVEN WORSE then this. With key players constantly injured, and players individually choking in key games to an extent never seen before in proffesional football. This is on Ten Hag, the only redeeming thing about his tenure is the easiest carabao cup run we have seen the last 20 years.
@@AshBashSneakers Plenty of other PL teams in the same boat with injuries. Man U of all teams should have the squad depth to cope! And Ten Hag's own signings have been available for much of the season but have been underwhelming. So I do feel he exceeded expectations last year but has disappointed this season.
Last year we had the best defense in the league, you could say we overperformed in most departments. This year we could almost never field our 1st team from last year (at least at the back). Not to mention the reluctance of certain players to put in a shift. The manager was cooking something until he ran out of ingredients and until some of them decided to spontaneously rot prematurely. There's only so many things a manager can fix, think about it, we've been in this position at least two more times under different managers. Not even Mourinho survived it, what makes you think whoever we'll bring in next miraculously fixes everything? Players need to go way before the manager, and history has shown us that.
Spot on analysis Adam. United fans are 50/50 on whether the issue is Ten Hag or the players. But when the players are instructed to vacate the midfield, it causes chaos and confusion! Also, he never changes tactics during games. Look at the Liverpool thrashing. Did nothing. Great vid as always Adam 🔥
He doesn’t instruct them to vacate the midfield that is a lazy misunderstanding. If ETH has a fault, it is insisting on play his way with such a poor squad.
Spot on analysis as usual Adam. Seeing the same thing every game with complete stubbornness from ETH has been exhausting. I don't see how he can stick to his guns so consistently and see the things everyone can see, without doing or trying anything else. Its baffling, and it will unfortunately lose him his job eventually. I dont want an endless cycle of sacking managers but it isn't working.
Been waiting for this video all weekend! **sips tea** Ah! One thing that did strike me was the lack of shouting/instructions from the touchline, ETH just stood there with a glaze(r)d look in his eyes.
Ten hags chaos end to end football tactics in the premier League is crazy he could do that at Ajax because Ajax and PSV are miles ahead of all the other dutch teams but in the premier league playing with no midfield is madness.
@@smartalec18anonymous Because the CL is a cup competition that lasts only 6-13 games depending on how far you go while the premier League lasts 38 games to play like that over 38 games is not possible
@@adamstannard7934 It's a bit of a myth when Ajax played Madrid they should of scored 20 goals over the 2 legs but missed so many easy chances and Ajax bottled a 2 goal lead against spurs before going out.
Ill stand by the fact that Chelsea have been better than United all season. Would genuinly be top 4 with a quality finisher. United have been shit in every game I've watched and STILL have negative goal difference
I was at Sheffield united v Chelsea and Jackson is just awful. There's 10 other strikers in the league who would have scored but he's clearly got no confidence. If Nkunku was fit all season they'd be so much better
@@gsampson97 the thing about Jackson is that he can suddenly turn it on and be really good every now and then. Same with Mudryk. A pity the rest of the time they are absolute shite.
Ten Hag: Has a sackably poor league run and is nearly embarrassed by Coventry Adam: Ten Hag has done really badly Ten Hag: Wins a one off game vs City Commenters: "Adam is stupid"
I find it mind bending that these are ETH’s deliberate tactics when it’s been clear all season (from opening game v Wolves) they don’t work. What is going on in his head??
Long term vs short term thinking. This is how he wants to play, but he needs better players. But he doesn't have another season to transition, so he's implementing it now.
He’s been doing everything himself for almost 18 months and already won a trophy as well as getting into his 3rd final. Arteta started with back-to-back 8th place finishes. I think he deserves till Jan under INEOS
@@Ohfishyfishyfish Arteta: 2 8th place finishes and an FA Cup with full backing of Edu Ten Hag: 3rd & 8th place finish and a League Cup with the worst owners in the history of the EPL Hmmm
Changing the Manager does nothing. It has been this way for years. Let ETH see out his final year on his contract and go from there. The players are to blame as much as the Manager. The whole team needs to be gutted.
@@ketainooson2884 I agree, but it’s hard to know how much the player influence a breakdown of his tactics. Closing down your opponents is essential to the high intensity football ETH wants to play. But closing down players for Manchester United seems to be a huge issue. One of the most simple things in football. Rashford being an example
Changing the manager for a new one who provides clarity and excellent advice absolutely can change things around. Mind you, I don't want Utd anywhere near one of them ))
Didnt the same thing happen to Ten Hag when he was Ajax manager and they were 3-0 up against Spurs who then came back and drew the game 3-3, surely that couldnt happen again, could it?
Life-long United faithful, you’re 101% spot on! Been talking about this for 14 months. Nobody knows what they’re supposed to do on the pitch. No transfers, no lucky wins, no individual moments of brilliance can change that. Ten Hag is out of his depth and he should walk. The sooner the better. With him, we have become a joke. And his pressers are just unbelievable. After this game he said he must "teach his players" how not to lose 3 goals in 20 minutes in a cup semi. After almost TWO YEARS at the wheel!! EtH OUT!
May I remind you that the same was said with ole, Jose and Ragnick,, it's strange all those manager didn't tell them what to do,,,, united fans are part of the problem, calling for a manager leaving useless players
Thats fine by me,as long as ETH takes half a squad of crap with him including martial,trashford,antony,ericcson,cass,verane,mcguire,lind,aramabat,sando or whatever his name is and of course mclaren and the sports"phsycologist"
@@jake688 His style of play doesn't work with this team. He wasn't playing this transitional last season and United had more success. He has gone too far too fast with this group of players For me, the killer is the fact that he can see that however is too stubborn to dial it down and change course. It doesn't matter if his style might work with a perfect group of players, United need a manager who is pragmatic about their ideology.
Life long United fan that wants the club to make the same mistakes over and over, INEOS should not make the same mistake as the Glazers and definitely shouldn’t be listening to you fools and the English media
My first time watching. Finally a channel that tells it like it is. Not only Ten Hag but most of the players must be gone as well. Keep up the good work 👍
The Brazilian is too slow for any position and Eriksson should never be playing as a defensive cm. Erikson was one of the most influential attacking players in world footy, then he had a heart attack. Not the ideal candidate to add legs to your midfield? The "open" system was great for Ajax when dominating a weak Dutch league . Unfortunately for utd they play in a competitive league.
As a Utd fan, I think ten Hag should stay, for one reason alone. Currently, the structure, starting with Ashworth, that will need to work with the new manager isn't in place yet. There's absolutely no sense people like Ratcliffe and Brailsford making crucial football decisions like who the new manager will be, and wasting another 2 years of a mismatch between who they get and who the director of football thinks we need. Leave ten Hag in place until Ashworth and the rest of the structure are in place, and have assessed who they think is the right fit.
@@sagethinker7168 I didn't say they were. I said I want the people who will be running the football operations, especially the director of football, to be making the decision about who the next manager should be, not Ratcliffe or Brailsford. Which means not sacking him yet.
No we haven’t mate, we’ve never had this many losses this few points, this bad of a ucl campaign and this bad of a style of play under any other manager in the premier league era
@@thesunshinehome and also the highest loss percentage, our worst points tally in the premier league era, the worst ever champions league performance by an English team, 7-0 loss to biggest rivals, no style of play, conceded 20 shots a game
@Musakhan23901 the style of play is clear. The players he has to work with can't execute. Half the starters are injured and the other half can't be bothered to put I'm a shift (ex. Rashford). ETH had a great season last year coming from where they were. There's growing pains right now. Mfs are so impatient they think years of shit can be reversed immediately in a season with a new manager and new style.
Liverpool fan. Hope Ten Excuses stays for a long time. Utd won't be able to sell many players because nobody will pay what they want or their wage. Nobody of note will want to come because of the state they're in and no European football. It's great. Can't see them getting out of this hole any time soon.
A single player can't increase possession without creating possession . Like winning the ball back from a tackle or carrying the ball holding onto it longer. Eriksen did neither
That doesn't make sense when you're taking Mainoo off, as he's the best player at keeping possession. If you're actually trying to increase possession, you'd take McTominay off out of the two midfielders.
@@MarkG7 McT is too tall, physical and aggressive for you to bring off in this match. You might end up with a situation where your midfield starts to get bullied off the ball (Mainoo has a lot to develop here. People compare him to Pogba but you couldn't bully Pogba even from young). Having aggression and a very experienced playmaker for the midfield was what EtH felt was the correct balance
I am waiting with glee for Gareth Southgate to take over Man United. I cannot imagine a better sequence of events. Truly, truly. I bet he will be appointed manager, and then Southgate will be the groundbreaker that selects a member of the Women's team on the matchday squad and even bring her on as a substitute a few weeks later.
@@arvin9425 united don't park the bus at home ever did you miss uniteds 2 recent home games against Liverpool? It was end to end as it will be against Arsenal.
@@sagethinker7168 that's because Liverpool don't have a focus on controlling games as much. United's best chance against arsenal is to park the bus and hit on the counter using the wide areas. That or just spamming crosses into the box.
Do a video on how if United change their manager and not the players how this group of players would play football that would be accepted by both the media and the fanbase. And be sure to name which manager would achieve that, again, with THIS squad. Can't wait.
Big Sam, Tony Pulis or anyone else that just sets up in a simple 442 low block counter attack. Martin O'Neil in his Villa days, Sean Dyche, Steve Fucking Bruce. All of them would get the team to defend properly first, then let the quality and speed of their attackers blow teams away on the counter. Rashford, Garnacho, Antony would all benefit from having space in behind to run into. And before anyone says 'the fans wouldn't accept it', Alex Ferguson did it for years and years. 442, defensively organised, solid structure and let the players do the rest. But you HAVE to be able to defend. You cant expect to have to score three a game to win, because you know you will concede 2. Utds league goal difference is -1. Its 18 behind Newcastle, who have been far from great, but can defend a lead.
Loads of managers could achieve more with this Man U squad. Ten Hag has also been a member of the transfer decisions that caused them to buy mount for example. A quality manager wouldn’t do that.
@@bofallhihaj4745 lol, that's just unequivocally false. no manager would be successful with this side. they would have to change nearly every facet of this squad in order to achieve results.
@@jimbobf2002 Failed the assignment. One the stipulations was that it has to be accepted by the media and the fans. The football we'd play under them would get them sacked if even if we had a better record. Remember Ole?
Thank you he should've played Ronaldo and he is not ready for this type of club. Ten Hag is built for Ajax. The biggest problem is he is supposed to implement style regardless of results but then he ends up trying to be a manager who trying to get results. Because of that reason he should be sacked but I am willing to say give him 1 more chance next season. After 2 chances and this continues next season a manager deserves the sack
Ten fraud united have no control in midfield, they looked more solid under Ole Team run right through them with ease, poor Onana gets stick for blunders but look at how many shots he has to deal with
The fact that they are in a cup final and a Europa league spot is insane. Reminiscent of Mourinho’s Spurs: “Elite Manager” found as being the problem after years of deflecting
They're not in a Europa League spot, Newcastle is above them, and that's if Man City wins the cup. If they don't, Newcastle gets Conference and Man United nothing. Am i wrong?
I don’t think any other team in the league would swap their manager for Ten Hag. I’m a Newcastle fan so clearly the worse they do the better for the rest of us but Man Utd are a huge club and being their manager should be one of the best jobs you can get and therefore you should be one of the worlds best managers. But he’s so incompetent I don’t think any team in the league would swap their current manager for him. You compare that logic to Klopp or Pep or Arteta or someone like Anchelotti and virtually anyone would want them. I think says it all.
20:20 hindsight and retro analysis is wonderful ;-) IMO the players are not united (literally)....they are, and always have been, a rag-tag collection of 'I love me most' individuals. Glazer prima donna shirt-sellers and social media PR machines. Any 'we are a team' ethic comes second to their 'me, me me culture'.....not all are like that, but many of them are. Ragnick spotted this a long time ago when he called for a need for 'open heart surgery'. These players have done for 5 managers...and you still maintain it is the manager at fault......I don't think so!
To me the biggest crime is there is no learning. This has been happening all season. Every other manager in the league knows that they will have space in front of the defence. Even Burnley go to Man Utd and get 15 shots. It is so obvious and he still does not fix it. How many chances have to be given away to realise there may be a problem to be fixed. You are absolutely right about the complete lack of control. People talk about Man Utd being inconsistent. But they are very consistent in leaving gaps and not controlling games at all.
Don't agree with you in full. The players at his disposal change from week to week (what was our back line at the weekend again?). How can anyone be expected to produce consistent results relying on the players left with some of those players clearly not upto it? Maguire won't defend a high line, he AWLAYS retreats (for example). Can't think how spaces open up when your senior defender (apparently a 1st choice for his national side) doesn't stick to the game plan. Martinez out, Shaw missing for large chunks, Mount perma-crocked, Martial the same, Malacia unavailable, Varane susceptible, Sancho throws his toys out the pram, Antony not upto it but fit. McTominay offers little with (look up how many passes he makes per game from centre midfield) and without (see Coventry's 2nd) the ball except a late run when Hojlund's taken the defence the other direction. Then the injury carousel featuring the rest of the defence. Did you miss him instructing Dalot to go forwards and provide an overlap in the first half, just before Dalot ran forwards and provided an overlap and a cross for our first? Dalot then pointed towards ten Hag during/post celebration? The options out there aren't much better, the fact that another manager is experiencing difficulties 2 years on from joining for the 3rd time should tell us all something. But some think a manager controls the minds of the players on the pitch who shit the bed and disregard instructions. I'd rather we keep ten Hag over keeping a lot of the players. I like he's brought in Garnacho and Mainoo. I expect we'll see another one or maybe two next season come up and get chances. I would like to see these players move on: AWB (too prone to errors and not great on the ball) Malacia (better using his spot for a young player earmarked to replace Shaw) Maguire (too slow, not great on the ball, poor communication & awareness, high wages) Varane (injury prone, as good as he is still, high wages, probably off on a free anyway) Lindelof (not gonna be better than an option off the bench, prone to errors) Casemiro (form has fallen from a cliff, still looks off the pace, high wages) McTominay (see 2nd paragraph) Eriksen (offers so much on the ball, but little off, wants to play frequently and won't get that here) Antony (high earner, mentality isn't right, ability for the prem/europe isn't there) Sancho (see Antony) Martial (already gone) At this point we might as well do an Everton/Forest and sell them all on for whatever and spend big take the points deductions.
These people make videos for clicks just like how other news websites fabricating ETH sacking news, what more do you expect from a CoNtEnT cReAtOr? that's why they don't apply for a manager's job.
Fair points, can’t fault your logic. But does Ten Hag have a responsibility as manager to change his system based on the players he has available due to injuries etc? Feels like he’s forcing too big a step change from 1st season and he doesn’t appear to be flexible on his approach. Surely other managers do mix up the system depending on who’s available week in week out?
2nd worst coach I have seen in the Prem since 2005. 2nd only to Frank De Boer who had a very similar outlook on the game. These are homeless mans versions of Louis Van Gaal. Outdated dutch philosophy.
His style of play doesn’t work in the premier league, it doesn’t work with this team. He wasn’t playing this transitional last season and United had more success. He has gone too far too fast with this group of players For me, the killer is the fact that he can see that however is too stubborn to dial it down and change course. It doesn’t matter if his style might work with a perfect group of players, United need a manager who is pragmatic about their ideology.
Didn't Klopp already show you people this season just how to handle such situations? That's the difference between a top manager and a clueless one I suppose. The surprise is, since when have United fans been so okay with having something/someone so remarkably inferior to what Liverpool have?
Great video. Really helpful explanation of Coventry changes & good to point out that players not knowing where they should be is the responsibility of the manager. I think you’re very unfair to Casemiro and Eriksen at 11.07 in the video though. You say they’re not doing anything but they clearly are, esp. Eriksen. Eriksen has just won the header, goes to chase the ball, sees Dalot going to the ball ahead of him so starts to run to Dalot’s previous man and then when the Coventry player gets around Dalot, he stops where he is to be a block to the player who is now on the ball moving towards goal. And if Casemiro wasn’t standing where he is, there would just be loads of open space in front of United’s goal.
By the way, you can see in your own video (10.39-10.42) that Eriksen wins the header and starts to chase the ball and in your own video (11.02-11.05) that Eriksen sees Dalot is going to get to the ball ahead of him,moves to cover for Dalot and then stops when the Coventry player gets around Dalot. I just found it odd that you went so hard in your criticism of those two players for that moment when (a) I think you’re wrong; (b) you’re clear elsewhere in the video that players not knowing where to be in this defensive set-up is the manager’s fault; and (c) these two players are already getting tons of over the top criticism after this match.
Can I ask you what you were seeing for the the last 12 months that kept you thinking he was decent? Utd have been poor that entire time after winning the cup
Quite the opposite. You are shocking OUT of possession and thats why you can't control a game in possession united actually look half decent, its when they lose the ball and the defence and midfield has a gap the size of a small moon between it that the problems occur
@iwilltouchyourtoes I honestly think he's playing a system which is stuck between two worlds because he hasn't had a starting CB pairing all season. The CBs can't play high because they haven't got the pace so have to drop back creating space in the middle of the pitch. We concede a lot of space in front of the back four for low xg shots. Sounds mad, but I want to see what we look like with pacey CBs. This is as close as I've been to Ten Hag out though, and if Nagelsman was available, I would want him gone.
@@Paddythefriendlykiwi but ask urself, if the excuse is the players ability than WHY on earth insist on pressing high when u sit deep, u either commit to a high line with suboptimal personell or u leave it with the press. The fact he insists on this shambolic press which is bad enough as it is and then also sits deep creating even more problems is mind boggling
@beeftestosterone5519 I get it, and I absolutely ask myself the same thing. But he's not a fucking idiot either...I think. What he did at Ajax was super impressive. I think he's drilling the front five into playing a certain way so they're ready to hit the ground running next season perhaps. And he's prepared to play this way as an interim measure to do it. Otherwise, you'd order Mainoo and Casemiro to sit surely.
Space between the back 4 and the midfield has been United’s problem all season and it’s shocking to see such an obvious and constant flaw not be be addressed by the manager.
I completely agree with Adam here. There is only one other time I have turned on a Man Utd manager -- in the worst days of the Mourinho era when he was throwing younger players like Luke Shaw under the bus to absolve himself of blame, and that's just not done, what absolute cruelty and cowardice. Ole Solskjaer took responsibility for his choices till the very end. But now I have reached the second point, and I say this as a huge fan of Ten Hag's Ajax teams. That Real Madrid-Ajax 1-4 in 2019 is one of my favourite matches ever. But Erik has got to go, this is not the right fit, and he is losing his mind. He has lost all touch with reality with his excuses, most players are regressing under him, and this is the worst prepared Man Utd side I have seen since Moyes. I was rooting for Utd to lose, so we wouldn't have to be humiliated in the final by City, and Ten Hag thinks he can win. Good managers can get some basic instructions through in two weeks or less -- he can't get them to figure out who marks who after two years. Ten Hag out please, just get another transition-minded vertical type coach in so the squad planning can continue in the same vein.
Modern fandom in a nutshell. Sack the manager that came in because most of the players threw Ole under the bus and downed tools for the rest of the season under Ragnick as they knew he was a temp. Not ONLY that, but get in another manager to cater to the underperforming and clearly not upto the job players. Can't think how that'll end!! May as well get Sancho back in and go full crazy. Honestly...
You almost had it my friend, you talked about the players inability to close down space or put pressure on the ball carrier, or closing down space… so why was your conclusion led you to blame Ten Hag? Rashford, Bissaka, Maguire, Mctominay and Fernandes have displayed poor decision making tendencies long before ETH, so why he’s at blame for this? While Garnacho, Mainoo, Dalot and Martinez have outperformed.
Do you not understand it's the manager's responsibility to set up defensive structure in which players know what to do and can clearly communicate that to each other, instead of aimlessly wandering around the pitch? If Girona can be 3rd in LaLiga starting Daley Blind and Eric Garcia at CB, if Eddie Howe was able to get the most out of players like Joelinton, Schar, Jacob Murphy or Almiron, ETH has no excuse.
@@0M0rty Yes it’s their responsibility to set up the structure and define the roles, but it’s the players jobs to implement. After United, Blind played for Ajax and even spent time at Bayern before joining Gerona; while Garcia was at city and Barca before moving… as for Newcastle, the team is built on grit, aggression and high work rate. Answer me this, does Ten Hag ask Rashford or Bruno no to pass to an open man? Does he tell Mcctominay to hide behind the opposition and not show himself for the pass? Does he tell Maguire to dwell on the ball? C’mon man we’ve seen these things happen time and time again since the day Ole was appointed on a permanent basis. I can’t see anyone doing better with these so called stars, and that to me should be the starting point. Guardiola kicked out Ronaldinho and Deco before he even stepped foot on the pitch. Fergie sold countless stars (at their peak) in order to maintain balance and humility among the team. If we can’t do something as basic as moving off the weak and support the manager, then how will we rebuild? One last thought, don’t forget the good work Ten Hag did last year…
I dont think ETH wouldn't have been telling them to be more structured or compact... I just think there aren't any leaders on the field that call out instructions or manage the game. Like Telling Arron to get back etc. Players being in random position isn't something a coach would be telling them. Its things like McTominay don't doing his defensive work, AWB not being aware or calling for cover when he needs it from Rashy... And Rashy just doing what he wants and no defensive work.
This analysis is too basic. Sometimes tactics are not just about the game at hand. There is a reason ETH is playing like this. Beginning of the season we were not scoring anything. ETH has resolved that by playing a pure numbers game and getting as many players into their half as possible. The result, we're scoring more goals. Yes this means he has to rely on his defenders to play 1 on 1 more when we fuck up. But the alternative is us scoring zero goals but doing well defensively like we did at the beginning of the season. If we don't have the injuries this is a non issue as we wouldn't lose the ball much in the first place and when do we'll have more than enough quality to defend it with AWB, Varane, Martinez and Shaw He still won the game and had 3-0 up with his approach
The problem is lots of utd fan channels and their mediocre followers have no clue on how to analyse a game. They have feelings for the manager and that's it...
@@jeanjacqueslundi3502 There is this myth, that a manager alone can sign good players. Without a good sporting structure above him im not surprised Ten Hags signings haven't worked out. Around 20 player at that club aren't good enough to win a title with modern attacking football.
Don’t worry about Brentford. Support your own team. Not even fergie could mange this team with injuries. Imagin he lost Rio , vidic and evra in a season. And in a transitional season. No one has a chance. And other teams it’s an excuse but not for us. Why.
Honestly it hurts bad watching united this season. Just don’t think ripping it all up again is the answer. Best teams have long standing managers. No coincidence. We have the money just need to keep a manager. Support our manager and give every excuse he deserves.
Irrelevant if there all injured mate. For a chunk of time ten hag had 2 players that he has bought available. That’s including Onana. How can you expect him to make a difference with the same players. Billion pound squad cause we keep changing manager. Every new manager needs to get different style of player in quick and other clubs are rubbing there hands together adding the Man U desperation tax. Stick to the plan. Keep manager be patient.
Here is the thing he prepared plan then nothing changes at games if we win we win if we lose we lose. He is not proper manager inside games like pep arteta inzagi or ancheloti. And this is from start of the season 2022
Love this video. So insightful. Can you please do an analysis of what has changed between last year and this year? I don’t understand why it is so s@@t now
Okay, let's list the games Ten Hagg's tactics have thrown away this season Arsenal: 1-0 to 3-1 Tottenham: 1-0 and 2-1 to 2-2 Nottingham 1-1 to 2-1 Fulham: 1-1 to 2-1 Liverpool: 2-1 to 2-2 Wolves 3-1 to 3-3 back to 3-4 because of Mainoo Galatasaray: 2-0 and 3-1 to 3-3 AND 2-1 to 2-3 Copenhagen: 3-2 to 4-3 Coventry: 3-0 to 3-3 Brentford: 1-0 to 1-1 Every single game listed above had United leading/drawing in the 80+ minute before conceding City: 1-0 to 3-1 Newport: 2-0 to 2-2 back to 4-2 West Ham: 0-0 to 2-0 These games, we had the advantage at halftime before giving away the lead The only games we've won late into the game due to these "tactics" are the following (no Wolves does not count): Nottingham: 2-0 down after 4 minutes to win 3-2 Brentford: 2-1 in the 90+ minute Villa: 3-2 It doesn't work, and if Ten Hagg can't see that he should be sacked.
If United had seen out HALF of the Premier League games (20 points dropped), we would be level on points with Tottenham and 3 points off of Villa in 4th. We would have made it through in the UCL or faced Sparta Prague in the Europa League. If United had seen out every single one of these results (unlikely but this is a hypothetical), we would be on 70 points, Arsenal would be on 71, City would be on 70, and Liverpool would be on 73
No he doesn't. Manchester United has about 99 problems, and none of them are Ten Hag. This is a club that a couple years ago was getting beat by Derby County at Old Trafford in the Carabao Cup. Ten Hag wasn't the manager then, but the same players who downed tools were on the pitch then and were on the pitch vs Derby.
Shock. Offensive player heat map correlates with space left by opposing team. Videos like these do numbers with new fans but theres nothing profound to see here. And no, of course ten Hag isn't a bigger problem than 58 cumalative injuries or 15 years of structural decay by the Glazers.
Not a United fan but this guy is cherrypicking examples. The fourth example was a backline shape when Coventry were on the counter which throws the bacline shape off completely.
These analyses always revolve around 20-20 hindsight. The fact is players are not good enough, plays get injured / suspended, players tire, players are out of form, players make "mistakes" (I put it in inverted commas as mistakes come in all shapes and sizes with some being more worthy of the description than others). But you do have to also consider coaches over-complicate things and players fail to understand what the coach wants at times. The biggest problem at united will always be that toxic dressing room where the wrong players are brought to the club and they end up having strops with the manager or go and post crap on social media. The club is rotten throughout. Ten Hag does deserve some blame but then who at the club doesn't? _How do you put your finger on the shittest part of a turd?_
@@NeilMalthus I do agree with you Ten Hag also takes the blame but Moyes, Van, Mourinho and Ole all had a stab at it and were kicked out in virtually 2 years. The structure needs to be fixed first off all, then we can sort out the remaining problems 1 at a time. When fergie lost the league to city by goals, all he needed was a goal scorer and he won it back. The team has too many problems all over... from the beginning of the season I knew this season was going to be meh. Ten hag did very well last season but his decision to be a turn over team has really messed up this season, injuries to the defenders is also a big issue which most down play because its united and ten hag but the best defence in the league is Arsenal who have one of the most consistent back fours in the league, most especially centre backs... saliba and gabriel and finally add the toxic dressing room. If I'm ten hag I'd forget about the league and start planing for city because that's all that matters. I think the owners should sort out the structure of the club, the toxic dressing, the players and then come to the manager at the end of next season... by then we will be ready to go on all fronts.
@@mamodeogbewele3376 I've got to say I'm a Liverpool fan - loving every moment of utd's decline whilst more than a little disappointed at my own club's end to the campaign. I think we agree - mostly - they do need to start weeding out the overpaid problem players and might have to sell at considerable loss. You could of course also do to be rid of the Glazers but don't hold your breath there. ETH, I repeat, shouldn't be immune to criticism all the same. He needs to pull his socks up but, as you seem to say, if he doesn't get at least another year, things won't be helped by the continued managerial merry-go-round. I don't know what you mean by 'ready to go on all fronts', I must say, though. I think united are miles from having the consistency to be a real force, with it all coming down to the catalogue of problems we've agreed on. They might take a cup or even 'flatter-to-deceive' again with an unexpected 2nd place in the title race but I'd say they need to keep things realistic for a decade and just work on getting better by degrees. Focus on quality kids on more modest wages at the outset (saves the club money and takes pressure off the player) and be honest with the fans: The rebuild could take a while.
@@NeilMalthus yeah that is what I mean by "ready to go on all fronts". Once the issues with the structure of the club in relation to football has been fixed, the players have been sorted then it would be easy to identify which coach would suite the football philosophy that united will take going forward. If done right it may not take so long in my opinion because as we've seen the quality is there but the proper infrastructure, discipline and tactics seem to be missing... but if things are not done well, it may take a long time. As united fan I'm not deceived by some second place or cup whatever... Glazers out is still top on the list but I am aware that ETH has several problems of his own and needs to be more honest in his interviews even though he is trying to save face, the english media is different from that of Holland and wonderfully bias against united because we are the news. And as you enjoy United's current predicament note that Klopp may end his season how ETH began his with united 🙃
Don’t know how many times we have to keep saying this but he plays this way because of the centre backs. If we had centre backs who were quicker then he’d play a higher line and the space would be in behind not between the defence and midfield. Imagine playing a high line with Casemiro and maguire at centre back..
As an Arsenal fan, I want the old United back. The Wenger vs Ferguson era was elite. I feel like Man U and Arsenal fans love to hate each other, but there’s always respect. I can’t stand Liverpool and City…
Yeah, sack another manager. Repeat it again and again. Sir Alex is considered the best manager in the premier league. We would think Sir Alex had dominated right when he came in, but no, Sir Alex finished 11th twice and was at the brink of getting sacked. They didn't. Look what happened then. I'm not saying never to sack managers, back come on now, if United is that bad, they still have reached 3 finals in 2 years. And have had a trophy. You guys are acting like United have young energetic players who can run on and on. United literally had 8 of their players over 25 playing. How is Erik supposed to do anything else. The team doesn't need coaching to beat Coventry. We had player to player better players. But these players who supposedly have experience don't do anything and stand there. How is any manager supposed to coach a team like this?
You can't compare Fergie's early days. Much different era, much more patient and much less money circulated around Football. As for this season, so much open space and the players look confused as to who's supposed to deal with what threat.
I was very frustrated as a cov fan that we started with a back 5 and showed utd so much respect, they've done nothing to deserve it. Also, first half, Bruno was man marking josh Eccles which was an insane to see from my perspective but it really impacted on our capacity to play into our forward players on the ground which is a feature of our play, direct passing on the ground
Scott Mctomminay and Harry Maguire are very much tactically an issue. If a cdm/cm pushes forward, the RB or LB should fill that space and you shift to a 3 back with two CDMs filling the vertical gaps. ALWAYS have a solid CM/Def base to strangle your opponents and keep the ball and progress and probe up the pitch to shift the opposition. 5 defenders and 5 attackers with 3 on either side being out and out versions, leaving 4 players to create a strong shape in midfield.
Some teams have a tight defence, others a loose defence, United have a prolapse. They are never drilled well to defend on the back foot only to press and panic if that doesn't work.
Mark Robins was a former United player, though he left before Fergie's success took off. He's not at that level though and has never managed in the PL.
I'm a lifelong United fan, and I don't think EtH is entirely the problem - though he's not faultless. I don't think sacking him will fix anything, it might prolong the pain in fact. No manager is going to come in an suddenly make these players do better, unless they're playing a low-block counter-attacking style which is the DNA of 80% of the players in this squad. If United want to get better, they need to drop at least 15 players from this squad, and bring in 8. That will take 18mths at least, and next season will be more rebuilding. I'd rather keep EtH until we've made more changes and we're more setup for a different manager to come in, if that's even necessary at that time, as I think EtH is probably the right man for the job in the med-term.
I've been saying it for ages. None of Ten Hag's men really know what they should be doing in the 'system' they are playing. That's partially on the players, but mostly on the manager. It's his job to make sure they have a clear idea of their role and their responsibilities, and if that needs tweaking like stopping players from exploiting space, then the manager needs to effectively communicate that. He's just not a good manager.
After watching that performance, and the ongoing issue of Man U leaving their midfield so exposed, I am excited for the rematch against Newcastle United!!
For what cup? I mean newcastle is not utd rivals in any metrics. newcastle is not a small club too. Kinda weird that the toon army act like they are luton or conventry and want to beat utd for their 5 min of fame
@asruluveira Not a cup, just in general. Newcastle are ahead of Man United in a lot of metrics. But I'm a Newvastlw fan, and that match may be the decider on who gets European football. Exciting times!!
16:19 all Coventry had to do was make two substitutions. I expect ETH would love to have anyone on the bench who make a difference, except he didn’t. No defensive midfielder no centre backs. No full backs. No one to help win the ball.
McTomminay never knows where to be in his own half when United are in and out of posession. His best attribute is his ability to be a threat in the final third. But that is because he was a youth team striker. The wide attackers always look to shoot, so there is no threat as everyone knows where they are going and what they are going to do.
To confuse your enemy you must confuse yourself first.
- Tsu Zu
I thought his name was Moon?!? 🤣🤣 (Brilliant post BTW)
😮Hag seems to achieve the first part
This is one of the funniest comments I’ve ever read on RUclips. 😂 Thank you. 👍
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Maguire is *Sun Tzu’s best student
That Bruno hojlund clip sums it up
genuinely looked like a clip pulled from FIFA/EA Football or whatever the fuck it's called these days
Are we really having a go at a no9 not knowing how to defend on the wing?
@@TmcksnT there's a difference in "not knowing" and players not even following their own instructions after communicating though. no one expects Rasmus to be a top-tier defender at the back, but the fact that Bruno pointed and told Rasmus to defend the man in front of him, only for them to both commit to the ball as soon as it's passed off is...comical. There has to to be some baseline when it comes to defending. Defending is done as a team, up and down every table in every league. If you can't or don't defend as a team, you ship goals. It's not the sole responsibility of the defenders to protect the goal.
@@th3doorMatt I know I'm just saying I'm not surprised to see he was confused or seemed uncultured in that moment. It's like having a go at Maguire for not finishing a one on one.
They were in sync for some seconds too😂@@th3doorMatt
Best football tactics show there is out there and I don’t mean just on RUclips.
Adam is the goat for real
Are you mad, it's SO basic. Just a load of slo motion hindsight and pointing out that we arent in a low block.
@@samuelford ikr, football tactic videos fail to acknowledge the actual speed the game is played at. Lots of slow motion and STILL IMAGES.
@@docgraal485 'if a player was standing here and not there then xyz wouldnt happen' the basis of 99 percent of "tactical" hipster videos. It's like watching someone say to a bricklayer, just lay more bricks and the house will be bigger, everyone likes a bigger house!'
tifo better
Ten hag ball has always been like that. People are finding this now bc most of them only watched Ajax at ucl but it was the same there. The only difference was Ajax offence were very good and their technical floor was way higher than uniteds. This way they could control games and transition quickly plus the technicality.
ETH got given £400M to sign players to raise the technical floor and he absolutely wasted it. Signed Casie as FDJ type progressor, signed Mount as a creative mid when the guy barely has a creative bone in his body. Also refused to play Donny, sent Pellestri and Alvarez on loan who are all technical players. Fell out with Sancho too. The guy should just leave for his own peace of mind not mine.
@@iwantgoals1566 that's another topic my guy. Talking about his playstyle
@@iwantgoals1566lost ur point 4 words in, he doesn’t spend the money, he got some players he wanted, and most others have been 2nd choices, over payed and are injured
@@notorious3496 And I’m saying he didn’t buy the right players to support his play style bruh.
@@ethan8326 What part of “spent £400m” did you not understand?
INEOS should give him lifetime extension
trust the process
They will and ten hag will do well again and you lot will cry again
As a Liverpool fan I have faith in ETH.
with no possibility of parole.
I still can't discern if it's ten Hag being poor tactically or the players having zero tactical intelligence. Most diplomatic answer will be somewhere in the middle. But I trust ten Hag is a tactically astute coach with his proven record at Ajax (people were drooling over his Ajax and often remarked that's how Man Utd should play). The players, well, they've proven record of frustrating 3 previous managers and 1 current manager.
Under ole we mentioned players most of this players had gone pogba and Co even martial not even playing, tactically ten hag is clueless, he can't adapt with premier league football, he is not creative enough.
Why not both?
@@saheedolawlewhat is “premier league football”? 😂 tactics are tactics and you need players to execute
Yup you summed it up very well
@@vidalgutierrez1736Can’t Agree with that becuase premier League is the most physically demanding league which means the football is faster, stronger and more intense. Great example is bringing Antony and Donny from Ajax and they can’t really handle the league, Antony doesn’t do much and gets pushed off the ball like a fly, Donny was just never involved in the game, even at Everton football was too fast.
Spanish league is less phsycial but it’s more creative passing and playstyle or at least in my opinion.
The weird thing to me is that last season Ten Hag turned Man U around and they got 3rd place and Champions League when all the pundits (and me) said it would take years to sort out the mess. Now that he has actually been able to bring in a few of his desired players, they are actually playing worse.
I simply don't understand how he seemed so clear-eyed and decisive last season and is floundering like this now. I can only imagine Casemiro had one phenomenal season left in his legs, and Ten Hag made full use of that. Because the system isn't very different than it was last. Also Rashford, whose drop off a cliff I do not understand -- in terms of goals and assists, he always alternates between good and bad in consecutive seasons, but he has always run his socks off. He is now the worst presser in the league probably.
@@souradeepsengupta95 Yes, it is strange isn't it. I've seen it suggested that his system with a high press needs a mobile back 4 and he hasn't got that without Martinez, leaving massive midfield gaps. Interesting point about Casemiro. It seems as if key players are missing and his preferred system doesn't work, he hasn't got a Plan B. With Rashford I wonder if he's simply fallen out of love with football. He sometimes gets the inspiration again - as for a period under Ten Hag - but then loses it. Snag is that talent isn't enough at the highest level, you need dedication too, and it doesn't feel as if the Man U atmosphere in recent years has encouraged this. That being said it's amazing how they have pulled out some late comebacks - but also late capitulations.
So what? Ole did the same, Mark Goldbridge said Ole should get a statue if he got top 4. He got 3rd and 2nd the first two seasons, where we thought it would take a decade to replace such a incompetent squad and atmosphere. + a bunch of semi finals and finals with a squad EVEN WORSE then this. With key players constantly injured, and players individually choking in key games to an extent never seen before in proffesional football. This is on Ten Hag, the only redeeming thing about his tenure is the easiest carabao cup run we have seen the last 20 years.
Sooooooooo over half his team being injured all season didn’t factor into this?
@@AshBashSneakers Plenty of other PL teams in the same boat with injuries. Man U of all teams should have the squad depth to cope! And Ten Hag's own signings have been available for much of the season but have been underwhelming. So I do feel he exceeded expectations last year but has disappointed this season.
This video aged better than the best fine WINE mate. Love this CHANNEL.
Excellent analysis as always Adam, great watch
Last year we had the best defense in the league, you could say we overperformed in most departments. This year we could almost never field our 1st team from last year (at least at the back). Not to mention the reluctance of certain players to put in a shift. The manager was cooking something until he ran out of ingredients and until some of them decided to spontaneously rot prematurely. There's only so many things a manager can fix, think about it, we've been in this position at least two more times under different managers. Not even Mourinho survived it, what makes you think whoever we'll bring in next miraculously fixes everything? Players need to go way before the manager, and history has shown us that.
Not a mu fan so I’m so wholeheartedly glad to see some MU fans still supporting him ☺️
Then you don't know what you're talking about.
Amazing that this is still relevant at the beginning of the 2024-2025 season. Watching this after our defeat to Spurs and draw to Villa
Spot on analysis Adam. United fans are 50/50 on whether the issue is Ten Hag or the players. But when the players are instructed to vacate the midfield, it causes chaos and confusion! Also, he never changes tactics during games. Look at the Liverpool thrashing. Did nothing. Great vid as always Adam 🔥
He doesn’t instruct them to vacate the midfield that is a lazy misunderstanding.
If ETH has a fault, it is insisting on play his way with such a poor squad.
Yes - the issue is 50% players and 50% Ten Haag.
Ten Hag has no plan B. Look at how Ajax lost the semi final against Tottenham from a winning position. Frustrating to watch
Why doesn't he start his good players who he got like amrabat,mount,Antony to do it🤣even casemiro he got
Only idiots think Ten Hag isn't the major problem.
You know it's serious when it's Clery blaming a manager
Spot on analysis as usual Adam. Seeing the same thing every game with complete stubbornness from ETH has been exhausting. I don't see how he can stick to his guns so consistently and see the things everyone can see, without doing or trying anything else. Its baffling, and it will unfortunately lose him his job eventually. I dont want an endless cycle of sacking managers but it isn't working.
Been waiting for this video all weekend! **sips tea** Ah!
One thing that did strike me was the lack of shouting/instructions from the touchline, ETH just stood there with a glaze(r)d look in his eyes.
@TuNguyen-jp8ys Exactly these guys have failed with multiple managers, they are useless
You toxic fans said the same things for 10 years straight lmao
@@vaughan1379 I am a city fan and even I thought ETH simply gave up at that game. He doesn't belong in such a massive club. He has to go.
@@tonmoybaidya2743 Ah yes just like Fergies first 5 years at UTD where he was so bad and clueless too but he was given time and look what happened.
@@david_fitzmaurice the difference is, Ferguson never said the words, "I can't replicate the way I played in a higher quality league"
What I can't understand is how the players on the field could not work it out themselves. Lack of leaders.
Ten hags chaos end to end football tactics in the premier League is crazy he could do that at Ajax because Ajax and PSV are miles ahead of all the other dutch teams but in the premier league playing with no midfield is madness.
What was the reason Ajax could do it in the CL under him?
@@smartalec18anonymous Because the CL is a cup competition that lasts only 6-13 games depending on how far you go while the premier League lasts 38 games to play like that over 38 games is not possible
@@sagethinker7168 but it worked against major teams in the CL
@@adamstannard7934 It's a bit of a myth when Ajax played Madrid they should of scored 20 goals over the 2 legs but missed so many easy chances and Ajax bottled a 2 goal lead against spurs before going out.
@@smartalec18anonymous For one season. Roberto di Matteo won CL with Chelsea. Where is he now.
Ill stand by the fact that Chelsea have been better than United all season. Would genuinly be top 4 with a quality finisher. United have been shit in every game I've watched and STILL have negative goal difference
I was at Sheffield united v Chelsea and Jackson is just awful. There's 10 other strikers in the league who would have scored but he's clearly got no confidence. If Nkunku was fit all season they'd be so much better
It’s crazy to think they actually have a 100m striker they just loaned him out so now they can’t even buy an expensive/world class striker lmao
@@emilevangheem6165lukaku destroyed every bridge possible at chelsea, they cant use him anymore without a weird atmosphere looming over everyone
@@gsampson97 the thing about Jackson is that he can suddenly turn it on and be really good every now and then. Same with Mudryk. A pity the rest of the time they are absolute shite.
@@duyanhng8430 of course but it shows you how bad things are at chelsea
Meanwhile.... Sancho is in a champions league final and Ronaldo is thriving. Yeah... classic fraud with grandiose delusions.
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Ten Hag: Has a sackably poor league run and is nearly embarrassed by Coventry
Adam: Ten Hag has done really badly
Ten Hag: Wins a one off game vs City
Commenters: "Adam is stupid"
I find it mind bending that these are ETH’s deliberate tactics when it’s been clear all season (from opening game v Wolves) they don’t work. What is going on in his head??
Long term vs short term thinking. This is how he wants to play, but he needs better players. But he doesn't have another season to transition, so he's implementing it now.
He’s been doing everything himself for almost 18 months and already won a trophy as well as getting into his 3rd final. Arteta started with back-to-back 8th place finishes. I think he deserves till Jan under INEOS
You really just congratulated ten Hag for winning the League Cup and compared that favourably against Arteta, who won the FA Cup in his first season.
@@Ohfishyfishyfish
Arteta: 2 8th place finishes and an FA Cup with full backing of Edu
Ten Hag: 3rd & 8th place finish and a League Cup with the worst owners in the history of the EPL
Hmmm
Changing the Manager does nothing. It has been this way for years. Let ETH see out his final year on his contract and go from there. The players are to blame as much as the Manager. The whole team needs to be gutted.
His tactics baffle me.
@@ketainooson2884 I agree, but it’s hard to know how much the player influence a breakdown of his tactics.
Closing down your opponents is essential to the high intensity football ETH wants to play. But closing down players for Manchester United seems to be a huge issue. One of the most simple things in football. Rashford being an example
Changing the manager for a new one who provides clarity and excellent advice absolutely can change things around. Mind you, I don't want Utd anywhere near one of them ))
Those defensive lines got me cracking up every time.....brilliant!!
Didnt the same thing happen to Ten Hag when he was Ajax manager and they were 3-0 up against Spurs who then came back and drew the game 3-3, surely that couldnt happen again, could it?
Life-long United faithful, you’re 101% spot on! Been talking about this for 14 months. Nobody knows what they’re supposed to do on the pitch. No transfers, no lucky wins, no individual moments of brilliance can change that. Ten Hag is out of his depth and he should walk. The sooner the better. With him, we have become a joke. And his pressers are just unbelievable. After this game he said he must "teach his players" how not to lose 3 goals in 20 minutes in a cup semi. After almost TWO YEARS at the wheel!! EtH OUT!
May I remind you that the same was said with ole, Jose and Ragnick,, it's strange all those manager didn't tell them what to do,,,, united fans are part of the problem, calling for a manager leaving useless players
Thats fine by me,as long as ETH takes half a squad of crap with him including
martial,trashford,antony,ericcson,cass,verane,mcguire,lind,aramabat,sando or whatever his name is and of course mclaren and the sports"phsycologist"
@@jake688 His style of play doesn't work with this team. He wasn't playing this transitional last season and United had more success. He has gone too far too fast with this group of players
For me, the killer is the fact that he can see that however is too stubborn to dial it down and change course. It doesn't matter if his style might work with a perfect group of players, United need a manager who is pragmatic about their ideology.
Life long United fan that wants the club to make the same mistakes over and over, INEOS should not make the same mistake as the Glazers and definitely shouldn’t be listening to you fools and the English media
Can you explain how or why utd were so successful last year? And why the dramatic fall off in performance this year with the same manager
This is the first football strategy video i understood to some extent. Thank you.
My first time watching. Finally a channel that tells it like it is. Not only Ten Hag but most of the players must be gone as well. Keep up the good work 👍
The Brazilian is too slow for any position and Eriksson should never be playing as a defensive cm. Erikson was one of the most influential attacking players in world footy, then he had a heart attack. Not the ideal candidate to add legs to your midfield? The "open" system was great for Ajax when dominating a weak Dutch league . Unfortunately for utd they play in a competitive league.
As a Utd fan, I think ten Hag should stay, for one reason alone. Currently, the structure, starting with Ashworth, that will need to work with the new manager isn't in place yet. There's absolutely no sense people like Ratcliffe and Brailsford making crucial football decisions like who the new manager will be, and wasting another 2 years of a mismatch between who they get and who the director of football thinks we need. Leave ten Hag in place until Ashworth and the rest of the structure are in place, and have assessed who they think is the right fit.
Ten hags crazy chaos tactics are nothing to do with the structure
@@sagethinker7168 I didn't say they were. I said I want the people who will be running the football operations, especially the director of football, to be making the decision about who the next manager should be, not Ratcliffe or Brailsford. Which means not sacking him yet.
The thing for me is. This "problem" isn't explicit to Ten Hag. We have seen this with other managers. I think the problem runs a lot deeper.
No we haven’t mate, we’ve never had this many losses this few points, this bad of a ucl campaign and this bad of a style of play under any other manager in the premier league era
@@Musakhan23901 He's got the highest win percentage
@@thesunshinehome and also the highest loss percentage, our worst points tally in the premier league era, the worst ever champions league performance by an English team, 7-0 loss to biggest rivals, no style of play, conceded 20 shots a game
@Musakhan23901 the style of play is clear. The players he has to work with can't execute.
Half the starters are injured and the other half can't be bothered to put I'm a shift (ex. Rashford). ETH had a great season last year coming from where they were. There's growing pains right now. Mfs are so impatient they think years of shit can be reversed immediately in a season with a new manager and new style.
@@jdill2225 no it isn’t, you just don’t understand ball mate, maybe try switching to a more simplistic sport like basketball or something
Excellent analysis as always. Countdown cutaway 😂😂
Spot on Adam. Been saying it for a while. Doesn’t give the players a free pass either but I think Erik has become a larger concern over time
Liverpool fan. Hope Ten Excuses stays for a long time. Utd won't be able to sell many players because nobody will pay what they want or their wage. Nobody of note will want to come because of the state they're in and no European football. It's great. Can't see them getting out of this hole any time soon.
You get your own version of bald fraud next season.
@@harukrentz435 lol
Thank you for noticing Cov made substitutions that changed the game
Erikson was brought on to increase possession and hence reduce opportunities for cov to counter. That's the answer to your question
A single player can't increase possession without creating possession . Like winning the ball back from a tackle or carrying the ball holding onto it longer. Eriksen did neither
That doesn't make sense when you're taking Mainoo off, as he's the best player at keeping possession. If you're actually trying to increase possession, you'd take McTominay off out of the two midfielders.
@@Enderlouie The question wasn't what did Erikson do it was why was he brought on
@@MarkG7 McT is too tall, physical and aggressive for you to bring off in this match. You might end up with a situation where your midfield starts to get bullied off the ball (Mainoo has a lot to develop here. People compare him to Pogba but you couldn't bully Pogba even from young). Having aggression and a very experienced playmaker for the midfield was what EtH felt was the correct balance
I am waiting with glee for Gareth Southgate to take over Man United. I cannot imagine a better sequence of events. Truly, truly. I bet he will be appointed manager, and then Southgate will be the groundbreaker that selects a member of the Women's team on the matchday squad and even bring her on as a substitute a few weeks later.
There is a mismatch between what the manager wants and what the available players are capable of
Arsenal gonna rip Manu at old Trafford if they offer this much of space.
They won't. They'll play the same way they did at the Emirates, which is to park the bus
@@arvin9425 united don't park the bus at home ever did you miss uniteds 2 recent home games against Liverpool? It was end to end as it will be against Arsenal.
@@sagethinker7168 that's because Liverpool don't have a focus on controlling games as much. United's best chance against arsenal is to park the bus and hit on the counter using the wide areas. That or just spamming crosses into the box.
The players seem to be more motivated against the big teams at Old Trafford, it won’t be as you think lmao
'IF'?!?! no if about it it's a guarantee!!! Why should we change now!! 😂
It still baffles me how Liverpool managed to not decimate this team. Its just crazy.
Overthinking they see man utd 2011
Instead of Sheffields utd at old Trafford
Do a video on how if United change their manager and not the players how this group of players would play football that would be accepted by both the media and the fanbase. And be sure to name which manager would achieve that, again, with THIS squad. Can't wait.
Big Sam, Tony Pulis or anyone else that just sets up in a simple 442 low block counter attack. Martin O'Neil in his Villa days, Sean Dyche, Steve Fucking Bruce.
All of them would get the team to defend properly first, then let the quality and speed of their attackers blow teams away on the counter. Rashford, Garnacho, Antony would all benefit from having space in behind to run into.
And before anyone says 'the fans wouldn't accept it', Alex Ferguson did it for years and years. 442, defensively organised, solid structure and let the players do the rest. But you HAVE to be able to defend. You cant expect to have to score three a game to win, because you know you will concede 2. Utds league goal difference is -1. Its 18 behind Newcastle, who have been far from great, but can defend a lead.
Loads of managers could achieve more with this Man U squad. Ten Hag has also been a member of the transfer decisions that caused them to buy mount for example. A quality manager wouldn’t do that.
@@bofallhihaj4745 lol, that's just unequivocally false. no manager would be successful with this side. they would have to change nearly every facet of this squad in order to achieve results.
Best comment in the thread
@@jimbobf2002 Failed the assignment. One the stipulations was that it has to be accepted by the media and the fans. The football we'd play under them would get them sacked if even if we had a better record. Remember Ole?
Thank you he should've played Ronaldo and he is not ready for this type of club. Ten Hag is built for Ajax. The biggest problem is he is supposed to implement style regardless of results but then he ends up trying to be a manager who trying to get results. Because of that reason he should be sacked but I am willing to say give him 1 more chance next season. After 2 chances and this continues next season a manager deserves the sack
Ten fraud united have no control in midfield, they looked more solid under Ole
Team run right through them with ease, poor Onana gets stick for blunders but look at how many shots he has to deal with
And ole had McFred in midfield. 😅
The fact that they are in a cup final and a Europa league spot is insane. Reminiscent of Mourinho’s Spurs: “Elite Manager” found as being the problem after years of deflecting
They're both super narcissistic
They're not in a Europa League spot, Newcastle is above them, and that's if Man City wins the cup. If they don't, Newcastle gets Conference and Man United nothing. Am i wrong?
@@brunoactis1104You’re right mate I forgot that the English sides falling out of Europe gets rid of that 5th place CL spot so now Man U are in the ECL
If Spurs never sacked Mourinho before a cup final he could have won a trophy with them
@@ChArLiE-1chaz9 I actually think Mou probably qualifies as a narcissist in a clinical sense.
Ah yes, the Manchester United RW known as "Garncho". Sounds like a pokemon
I don’t think any other team in the league would swap their manager for Ten Hag. I’m a Newcastle fan so clearly the worse they do the better for the rest of us but Man Utd are a huge club and being their manager should be one of the best jobs you can get and therefore you should be one of the worlds best managers. But he’s so incompetent I don’t think any team in the league would swap their current manager for him. You compare that logic to Klopp or Pep or Arteta or someone like Anchelotti and virtually anyone would want them.
I think says it all.
nobody cares about Newcastle mate. Why are you here commenting on United? Your own staff are quitting just to twerk for United
Yea like anyone would have wanted Arteta during 2020 Arsenal mate stfu
Even Eddie Howe would do better.
Does bro think anyone cares about Newcastle United ?
What you are saying doesn't make any sense. Clubs in the relegation zone would wish EtH were their manager.
20:20 hindsight and retro analysis is wonderful ;-) IMO the players are not united (literally)....they are, and always have been, a rag-tag collection of 'I love me most' individuals. Glazer prima donna shirt-sellers and social media PR machines. Any 'we are a team' ethic comes second to their 'me, me me culture'.....not all are like that, but many of them are. Ragnick spotted this a long time ago when he called for a need for 'open heart surgery'. These players have done for 5 managers...and you still maintain it is the manager at fault......I don't think so!
thank you for expressing our frustration, give him a year with better players , hard working players.
They lack the right players, it's not TenHag
He literally explained why it's a tactical problem
Read the caption ' why Man united's biggest problem is Ten Hag'
To me the biggest crime is there is no learning. This has been happening all season. Every other manager in the league knows that they will have space in front of the defence. Even Burnley go to Man Utd and get 15 shots. It is so obvious and he still does not fix it. How many chances have to be given away to realise there may be a problem to be fixed.
You are absolutely right about the complete lack of control. People talk about Man Utd being inconsistent. But they are very consistent in leaving gaps and not controlling games at all.
Don't agree with you in full. The players at his disposal change from week to week (what was our back line at the weekend again?). How can anyone be expected to produce consistent results relying on the players left with some of those players clearly not upto it? Maguire won't defend a high line, he AWLAYS retreats (for example). Can't think how spaces open up when your senior defender (apparently a 1st choice for his national side) doesn't stick to the game plan.
Martinez out, Shaw missing for large chunks, Mount perma-crocked, Martial the same, Malacia unavailable, Varane susceptible, Sancho throws his toys out the pram, Antony not upto it but fit. McTominay offers little with (look up how many passes he makes per game from centre midfield) and without (see Coventry's 2nd) the ball except a late run when Hojlund's taken the defence the other direction. Then the injury carousel featuring the rest of the defence.
Did you miss him instructing Dalot to go forwards and provide an overlap in the first half, just before Dalot ran forwards and provided an overlap and a cross for our first? Dalot then pointed towards ten Hag during/post celebration?
The options out there aren't much better, the fact that another manager is experiencing difficulties 2 years on from joining for the 3rd time should tell us all something. But some think a manager controls the minds of the players on the pitch who shit the bed and disregard instructions. I'd rather we keep ten Hag over keeping a lot of the players. I like he's brought in Garnacho and Mainoo. I expect we'll see another one or maybe two next season come up and get chances.
I would like to see these players move on:
AWB (too prone to errors and not great on the ball)
Malacia (better using his spot for a young player earmarked to replace Shaw)
Maguire (too slow, not great on the ball, poor communication & awareness, high wages)
Varane (injury prone, as good as he is still, high wages, probably off on a free anyway)
Lindelof (not gonna be better than an option off the bench, prone to errors)
Casemiro (form has fallen from a cliff, still looks off the pace, high wages)
McTominay (see 2nd paragraph)
Eriksen (offers so much on the ball, but little off, wants to play frequently and won't get that here)
Antony (high earner, mentality isn't right, ability for the prem/europe isn't there)
Sancho (see Antony)
Martial (already gone)
At this point we might as well do an Everton/Forest and sell them all on for whatever and spend big take the points deductions.
These people make videos for clicks just like how other news websites fabricating ETH sacking news, what more do you expect from a CoNtEnT cReAtOr? that's why they don't apply for a manager's job.
Fair points, can’t fault your logic. But does Ten Hag have a responsibility as manager to change his system based on the players he has available due to injuries etc? Feels like he’s forcing too big a step change from 1st season and he doesn’t appear to be flexible on his approach. Surely other managers do mix up the system depending on who’s available week in week out?
Onana
Casemiro
Mainoo
Hojlund
Garnacho
Antony
Most of those players are his. Why can't he do anything with them?
2nd worst coach I have seen in the Prem since 2005. 2nd only to Frank De Boer who had a very similar outlook on the game. These are homeless mans versions of Louis Van Gaal. Outdated dutch philosophy.
This just shows that its the players more at fault than ten hag.
You sound like an IDF spokesman. How does it show that?
His style of play doesn’t work in the premier league, it doesn’t work with this team. He wasn’t playing this transitional last season and United had more success. He has gone too far too fast with this group of players
For me, the killer is the fact that he can see that however is too stubborn to dial it down and change course. It doesn’t matter if his style might work with a perfect group of players, United need a manager who is pragmatic about their ideology.
He picked and bought them u mug
re: the Erikson sub. Who else could he have brought on though? There were no other senior players left.
He could have taken off McTominay instead of Mainoo. That offers way more control AND way more protection.
Or drop the high press so that the space doesn’t happen in the first place😭
@@Mugi_19 those two things go hand in hand 👍🏻
Didn't Klopp already show you people this season just how to handle such situations?
That's the difference between a top manager and a clueless one I suppose.
The surprise is, since when have United fans been so okay with having something/someone so remarkably inferior to what Liverpool have?
@@OserojiemenKing I hate you so much for this but godammit you have a point
1:23 Good heavens...I haven't seen a subbuteo pitch for 40+ years.
Loved that game as a kid and teen.
Great video. Really helpful explanation of Coventry changes & good to point out that players not knowing where they should be is the responsibility of the manager.
I think you’re very unfair to Casemiro and Eriksen at 11.07 in the video though. You say they’re not doing anything but they clearly are, esp. Eriksen. Eriksen has just won the header, goes to chase the ball, sees Dalot going to the ball ahead of him so starts to run to Dalot’s previous man and then when the Coventry player gets around Dalot, he stops where he is to be a block to the player who is now on the ball moving towards goal.
And if Casemiro wasn’t standing where he is, there would just be loads of open space in front of United’s goal.
By the way, you can see in your own video (10.39-10.42) that Eriksen wins the header and starts to chase the ball and in your own video (11.02-11.05) that Eriksen sees Dalot is going to get to the ball ahead of him,moves to cover for Dalot and then stops when the Coventry player gets around Dalot.
I just found it odd that you went so hard in your criticism of those two players for that moment when (a) I think you’re wrong; (b) you’re clear elsewhere in the video that players not knowing where to be in this defensive set-up is the manager’s fault; and (c) these two players are already getting tons of over the top criticism after this match.
Brilliant analysis again mate! Seeing it put the way you have there's only one option. Laters ETH👋😅
This was the game that made me turn on ETH, we are shocking in possession and that’s why we can’t control a game.
Can I ask you what you were seeing for the the last 12 months that kept you thinking he was decent?
Utd have been poor that entire time after winning the cup
Quite the opposite. You are shocking OUT of possession and thats why you can't control a game in possession united actually look half decent, its when they lose the ball and the defence and midfield has a gap the size of a small moon between it that the problems occur
@iwilltouchyourtoes I honestly think he's playing a system which is stuck between two worlds because he hasn't had a starting CB pairing all season. The CBs can't play high because they haven't got the pace so have to drop back creating space in the middle of the pitch. We concede a lot of space in front of the back four for low xg shots.
Sounds mad, but I want to see what we look like with pacey CBs.
This is as close as I've been to Ten Hag out though, and if Nagelsman was available, I would want him gone.
@@Paddythefriendlykiwi but ask urself, if the excuse is the players ability than WHY on earth insist on pressing high when u sit deep, u either commit to a high line with suboptimal personell or u leave it with the press. The fact he insists on this shambolic press which is bad enough as it is and then also sits deep creating even more problems is mind boggling
@beeftestosterone5519 I get it, and I absolutely ask myself the same thing. But he's not a fucking idiot either...I think. What he did at Ajax was super impressive. I think he's drilling the front five into playing a certain way so they're ready to hit the ground running next season perhaps. And he's prepared to play this way as an interim measure to do it. Otherwise, you'd order Mainoo and Casemiro to sit surely.
Oh also great video as always
Bravo 👏🏻 very well said. Southgate in!!’
Space between the back 4 and the midfield has been United’s problem all season and it’s shocking to see such an obvious and constant flaw not be be addressed by the manager.
It's not a problem if Martinez and Shaw are on the pitch.
His tactics baffle me.
Can’t believe I only found this video now. Beautiful.
Give him a 10 year contract
😂😂😂
I completely agree with Adam here. There is only one other time I have turned on a Man Utd manager -- in the worst days of the Mourinho era when he was throwing younger players like Luke Shaw under the bus to absolve himself of blame, and that's just not done, what absolute cruelty and cowardice. Ole Solskjaer took responsibility for his choices till the very end.
But now I have reached the second point, and I say this as a huge fan of Ten Hag's Ajax teams. That Real Madrid-Ajax 1-4 in 2019 is one of my favourite matches ever. But Erik has got to go, this is not the right fit, and he is losing his mind. He has lost all touch with reality with his excuses, most players are regressing under him, and this is the worst prepared Man Utd side I have seen since Moyes. I was rooting for Utd to lose, so we wouldn't have to be humiliated in the final by City, and Ten Hag thinks he can win. Good managers can get some basic instructions through in two weeks or less -- he can't get them to figure out who marks who after two years. Ten Hag out please, just get another transition-minded vertical type coach in so the squad planning can continue in the same vein.
Modern fandom in a nutshell. Sack the manager that came in because most of the players threw Ole under the bus and downed tools for the rest of the season under Ragnick as they knew he was a temp. Not ONLY that, but get in another manager to cater to the underperforming and clearly not upto the job players. Can't think how that'll end!! May as well get Sancho back in and go full crazy. Honestly...
You almost had it my friend, you talked about the players inability to close down space or put pressure on the ball carrier, or closing down space… so why was your conclusion led you to blame Ten Hag? Rashford, Bissaka, Maguire, Mctominay and Fernandes have displayed poor decision making tendencies long before ETH, so why he’s at blame for this? While Garnacho, Mainoo, Dalot and Martinez have outperformed.
Do you not understand it's the manager's responsibility to set up defensive structure in which players know what to do and can clearly communicate that to each other, instead of aimlessly wandering around the pitch?
If Girona can be 3rd in LaLiga starting Daley Blind and Eric Garcia at CB, if Eddie Howe was able to get the most out of players like Joelinton, Schar, Jacob Murphy or Almiron, ETH has no excuse.
@@0M0rty Yes it’s their responsibility to set up the structure and define the roles, but it’s the players jobs to implement. After United, Blind played for Ajax and even spent time at Bayern before joining Gerona; while Garcia was at city and Barca before moving… as for Newcastle, the team is built on grit, aggression and high work rate.
Answer me this, does Ten Hag ask Rashford or Bruno no to pass to an open man? Does he tell Mcctominay to hide behind the opposition and not show himself for the pass? Does he tell Maguire to dwell on the ball? C’mon man we’ve seen these things happen time and time again since the day Ole was appointed on a permanent basis.
I can’t see anyone doing better with these so called stars, and that to me should be the starting point. Guardiola kicked out Ronaldinho and Deco before he even stepped foot on the pitch. Fergie sold countless stars (at their peak) in order to maintain balance and humility among the team. If we can’t do something as basic as moving off the weak and support the manager, then how will we rebuild?
One last thought, don’t forget the good work Ten Hag did last year…
I dont think ETH wouldn't have been telling them to be more structured or compact... I just think there aren't any leaders on the field that call out instructions or manage the game. Like Telling Arron to get back etc. Players being in random position isn't something a coach would be telling them. Its things like McTominay don't doing his defensive work, AWB not being aware or calling for cover when he needs it from Rashy... And Rashy just doing what he wants and no defensive work.
This analysis is too basic. Sometimes tactics are not just about the game at hand.
There is a reason ETH is playing like this. Beginning of the season we were not scoring anything. ETH has resolved that by playing a pure numbers game and getting as many players into their half as possible. The result, we're scoring more goals.
Yes this means he has to rely on his defenders to play 1 on 1 more when we fuck up. But the alternative is us scoring zero goals but doing well defensively like we did at the beginning of the season.
If we don't have the injuries this is a non issue as we wouldn't lose the ball much in the first place and when do we'll have more than enough quality to defend it with AWB, Varane, Martinez and Shaw
He still won the game and had 3-0 up with his approach
At this point one has to wonder, has anyone even checked if ETH actually completed his badges 🤷🏽♂️😂
Its the players dude not ten hag..the olayers can't follow instructions and they wanna be individuals
BS. Without ETH United would have ended below Chelsea
The problem is lots of utd fan channels and their mediocre followers have no clue on how to analyse a game. They have feelings for the manager and that's it...
EtH is clueless. I've been saying it all season; but the fans love him to death.
Fans just fear the players not going, because a new manager will want to analyze them and not sell them the summer.
@@lexxihd5843 If the players are the problem, which players? the ones signed by Ten hag? the Ones signed by Jose? By Ragnick? By Ole?
@@jeanjacqueslundi3502 There is this myth, that a manager alone can sign good players. Without a good sporting structure above him im not surprised Ten Hags signings haven't worked out. Around 20 player at that club aren't good enough to win a title with modern attacking football.
ALL SEASON NOT THE SAME BACK LINE. NO ALL SEASON. DO A VIDEO ON HOW MANY DIFFERENT BACK LINES THIS SEASON
Not an a excuse, Brentford had their entire back 5 injures against us and still completely dominated us and had a style of play
Don’t worry about Brentford. Support your own team. Not even fergie could mange this team with injuries. Imagin he lost Rio , vidic and evra in a season. And in a transitional season. No one has a chance. And other teams it’s an excuse but not for us. Why.
Honestly it hurts bad watching united this season. Just don’t think ripping it all up again is the answer. Best teams have long standing managers. No coincidence. We have the money just need to keep a manager. Support our manager and give every excuse he deserves.
@@rossco21 because we have a billion pound squad mate
Irrelevant if there all injured mate. For a chunk of time ten hag had 2 players that he has bought available. That’s including Onana. How can you expect him to make a difference with the same players. Billion pound squad cause we keep changing manager. Every new manager needs to get different style of player in quick and other clubs are rubbing there hands together adding the Man U desperation tax. Stick to the plan. Keep manager be patient.
Here is the thing he prepared plan then nothing changes at games if we win we win if we lose we lose. He is not proper manager inside games like pep arteta inzagi or ancheloti. And this is from start of the season 2022
Indeed he has no plan B.
Love this video. So insightful. Can you please do an analysis of what has changed between last year and this year? I don’t understand why it is so s@@t now
Okay, let's list the games Ten Hagg's tactics have thrown away this season
Arsenal: 1-0 to 3-1
Tottenham: 1-0 and 2-1 to 2-2
Nottingham 1-1 to 2-1
Fulham: 1-1 to 2-1
Liverpool: 2-1 to 2-2
Wolves 3-1 to 3-3 back to 3-4 because of Mainoo
Galatasaray: 2-0 and 3-1 to 3-3 AND 2-1 to 2-3
Copenhagen: 3-2 to 4-3
Coventry: 3-0 to 3-3
Brentford: 1-0 to 1-1
Every single game listed above had United leading/drawing in the 80+ minute before conceding
City: 1-0 to 3-1
Newport: 2-0 to 2-2 back to 4-2
West Ham: 0-0 to 2-0
These games, we had the advantage at halftime before giving away the lead
The only games we've won late into the game due to these "tactics" are the following (no Wolves does not count):
Nottingham: 2-0 down after 4 minutes to win 3-2
Brentford: 2-1 in the 90+ minute
Villa: 3-2
It doesn't work, and if Ten Hagg can't see that he should be sacked.
If United had seen out HALF of the Premier League games (20 points dropped), we would be level on points with Tottenham and 3 points off of Villa in 4th.
We would have made it through in the UCL or faced Sparta Prague in the Europa League.
If United had seen out every single one of these results (unlikely but this is a hypothetical), we would be on 70 points, Arsenal would be on 71, City would be on 70, and Liverpool would be on 73
6 points off Villa with 2 games in hand**
No he doesn't. Manchester United has about 99 problems, and none of them are Ten Hag. This is a club that a couple years ago was getting beat by Derby County at Old Trafford in the Carabao Cup. Ten Hag wasn't the manager then, but the same players who downed tools were on the pitch then and were on the pitch vs Derby.
Shock. Offensive player heat map correlates with space left by opposing team.
Videos like these do numbers with new fans but theres nothing profound to see here.
And no, of course ten Hag isn't a bigger problem than 58 cumalative injuries or 15 years of structural decay by the Glazers.
Adam giving out strong Jon richardson vibes during the countdown thing!
Not a United fan but this guy is cherrypicking examples. The fourth example was a backline shape when Coventry were on the counter which throws the bacline shape off completely.
These analyses always revolve around 20-20 hindsight. The fact is players are not good enough, plays get injured / suspended, players tire, players are out of form, players make "mistakes" (I put it in inverted commas as mistakes come in all shapes and sizes with some being more worthy of the description than others). But you do have to also consider coaches over-complicate things and players fail to understand what the coach wants at times.
The biggest problem at united will always be that toxic dressing room where the wrong players are brought to the club and they end up having strops with the manager or go and post crap on social media. The club is rotten throughout. Ten Hag does deserve some blame but then who at the club doesn't?
_How do you put your finger on the shittest part of a turd?_
@@NeilMalthus I do agree with you Ten Hag also takes the blame but Moyes, Van, Mourinho and Ole all had a stab at it and were kicked out in virtually 2 years. The structure needs to be fixed first off all, then we can sort out the remaining problems 1 at a time. When fergie lost the league to city by goals, all he needed was a goal scorer and he won it back. The team has too many problems all over... from the beginning of the season I knew this season was going to be meh. Ten hag did very well last season but his decision to be a turn over team has really messed up this season, injuries to the defenders is also a big issue which most down play because its united and ten hag but the best defence in the league is Arsenal who have one of the most consistent back fours in the league, most especially centre backs... saliba and gabriel and finally add the toxic dressing room. If I'm ten hag I'd forget about the league and start planing for city because that's all that matters. I think the owners should sort out the structure of the club, the toxic dressing, the players and then come to the manager at the end of next season... by then we will be ready to go on all fronts.
@@mamodeogbewele3376 I've got to say I'm a Liverpool fan - loving every moment of utd's decline whilst more than a little disappointed at my own club's end to the campaign.
I think we agree - mostly - they do need to start weeding out the overpaid problem players and might have to sell at considerable loss. You could of course also do to be rid of the Glazers but don't hold your breath there.
ETH, I repeat, shouldn't be immune to criticism all the same. He needs to pull his socks up but, as you seem to say, if he doesn't get at least another year, things won't be helped by the continued managerial merry-go-round.
I don't know what you mean by 'ready to go on all fronts', I must say, though. I think united are miles from having the consistency to be a real force, with it all coming down to the catalogue of problems we've agreed on.
They might take a cup or even 'flatter-to-deceive' again with an unexpected 2nd place in the title race but I'd say they need to keep things realistic for a decade and just work on getting better by degrees. Focus on quality kids on more modest wages at the outset (saves the club money and takes pressure off the player) and be honest with the fans: The rebuild could take a while.
@@NeilMalthus yeah that is what I mean by "ready to go on all fronts". Once the issues with the structure of the club in relation to football has been fixed, the players have been sorted then it would be easy to identify which coach would suite the football philosophy that united will take going forward. If done right it may not take so long in my opinion because as we've seen the quality is there but the proper infrastructure, discipline and tactics seem to be missing... but if things are not done well, it may take a long time. As united fan I'm not deceived by some second place or cup whatever... Glazers out is still top on the list but I am aware that ETH has several problems of his own and needs to be more honest in his interviews even though he is trying to save face, the english media is different from that of Holland and wonderfully bias against united because we are the news. And as you enjoy United's current predicament note that Klopp may end his season how ETH began his with united 🙃
Don’t know how many times we have to keep saying this but he plays this way because of the centre backs. If we had centre backs who were quicker then he’d play a higher line and the space would be in behind not between the defence and midfield. Imagine playing a high line with Casemiro and maguire at centre back..
More common sense than an entire channel dedicated to football tactics...
England plays a high line too with Maguire.
@@Ardano62England has Kyle walker to cover
As an Arsenal fan, I want the old United back. The Wenger vs Ferguson era was elite.
I feel like Man U and Arsenal fans love to hate each other, but there’s always respect. I can’t stand Liverpool and City…
The low defensive line is due to a lack of defenders that can play a high line
then dont play a high press and play counter attacking football, that’s what suited his best player Bruno anyway, you cant have both
@@duyanhng8430 Right, there is such thing as a Mid Block ppl are forgetting.
Then play a middle block for Christ sake …that’s what they call adapting 😭
AS A MANGER YOU ADAPT!
@@Harrison32413they act like it’s an Ange high line or a prime Mourinho bus parking
Yeah, sack another manager. Repeat it again and again. Sir Alex is considered the best manager in the premier league. We would think Sir Alex had dominated right when he came in, but no, Sir Alex finished 11th twice and was at the brink of getting sacked. They didn't. Look what happened then. I'm not saying never to sack managers, back come on now, if United is that bad, they still have reached 3 finals in 2 years. And have had a trophy. You guys are acting like United have young energetic players who can run on and on. United literally had 8 of their players over 25 playing. How is Erik supposed to do anything else. The team doesn't need coaching to beat Coventry. We had player to player better players. But these players who supposedly have experience don't do anything and stand there. How is any manager supposed to coach a team like this?
You can't compare Fergie's early days. Much different era, much more patient and much less money circulated around Football.
As for this season, so much open space and the players look confused as to who's supposed to deal with what threat.
I was very frustrated as a cov fan that we started with a back 5 and showed utd so much respect, they've done nothing to deserve it. Also, first half, Bruno was man marking josh Eccles which was an insane to see from my perspective but it really impacted on our capacity to play into our forward players on the ground which is a feature of our play, direct passing on the ground
No left back, one center back, no holding mid. Shut up he's doing the best with what he's got.
What is amrabat,a holding mid who he got🤣and how does that have to do with being outplayed by Coventry
Love the Countdown clock soundtrack!
Please take this video down till after the season is over. We still have to play them.
Scott Mctomminay and Harry Maguire are very much tactically an issue.
If a cdm/cm pushes forward, the RB or LB should fill that space and you shift to a 3 back with two CDMs filling the vertical gaps.
ALWAYS have a solid CM/Def base to strangle your opponents and keep the ball and progress and probe up the pitch to shift the opposition.
5 defenders and 5 attackers with 3 on either side being out and out versions, leaving 4 players to create a strong shape in midfield.
Some teams have a tight defence, others a loose defence, United have a prolapse.
They are never drilled well to defend on the back foot only to press and panic if that doesn't work.
I want coventry Coach instead of Ten hang
He was so smart for exploiting man utd spaces
Mark Robins was a former United player, though he left before Fergie's success took off. He's not at that level though and has never managed in the PL.
I'm a lifelong United fan, and I don't think EtH is entirely the problem - though he's not faultless. I don't think sacking him will fix anything, it might prolong the pain in fact. No manager is going to come in an suddenly make these players do better, unless they're playing a low-block counter-attacking style which is the DNA of 80% of the players in this squad.
If United want to get better, they need to drop at least 15 players from this squad, and bring in 8. That will take 18mths at least, and next season will be more rebuilding. I'd rather keep EtH until we've made more changes and we're more setup for a different manager to come in, if that's even necessary at that time, as I think EtH is probably the right man for the job in the med-term.
I've been saying it for ages. None of Ten Hag's men really know what they should be doing in the 'system' they are playing. That's partially on the players, but mostly on the manager. It's his job to make sure they have a clear idea of their role and their responsibilities, and if that needs tweaking like stopping players from exploiting space, then the manager needs to effectively communicate that. He's just not a good manager.
After watching that performance, and the ongoing issue of Man U leaving their midfield so exposed, I am excited for the rematch against Newcastle United!!
For what cup? I mean newcastle is not utd rivals in any metrics. newcastle is not a small club too. Kinda weird that the toon army act like they are luton or conventry and want to beat utd for their 5 min of fame
@asruluveira Not a cup, just in general. Newcastle are ahead of Man United in a lot of metrics. But I'm a Newvastlw fan, and that match may be the decider on who gets European football. Exciting times!!
16:19 all Coventry had to do was make two substitutions. I expect ETH would love to have anyone on the bench who make a difference, except he didn’t. No defensive midfielder no centre backs. No full backs.
No one to help win the ball.
McTomminay never knows where to be in his own half when United are in and out of posession. His best attribute is his ability to be a threat in the final third. But that is because he was a youth team striker. The wide attackers always look to shoot, so there is no threat as everyone knows where they are going and what they are going to do.
"Pack them little hats up and get walking" - exquisite