Im glad the mom actually expressed her concern, I've seen in a lot of shows that the parent seems to have no concern twords their children being in another world. It adds more emotion to her charechter
For real! Like in star vs the forces of evil, Marco’s parents seemed to not care that they had a crazy magical princess in their house and that their son was going to other dimensions on the daily lmao
@@joceland5537 Well I guess they wanted to let him do him. Though they got lonely enough to try for another kid and then feared Star would take away that kid like she took away Marco.
Okay so the Grimwalkers use palistrum wood as keratin, a substance in the first layer of skin and other parts of the body. Belos consumes a green liquid from palismen to (presumably) keep himself from turning into that demonic black goop thing. His face has a corrupted streak across it. If Belos really is a Grimwalker then it's most likely that this streak isn't actually his face but a side effect of the fact that he ran out of palismen go consume. But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
@@anahi706 on one hand she did agree to put her in a place that strips you of your personality but on another hand she did have to do it because Luz has to go to school.
@@agenttexas3334 well 1.Luz literally brought fireworks and snakes too school so I wouldn’t blame her trying to make sure that that doesn’t happen 2.the camp doesn’t seem that bad since everyone from camp is still weird and interesting so maybe it’s more of a camp to get you to control your creativity so you don’t harm anyone
I don't exactly know why, but I find Vee, what she's been through, and her relationship with Camilia utterly *fascinating* to a degree that nothing else in TOH has matched up to now, which is saying a ton.
With how camilla responded with “did you really hate being with me that much” I seriously hope that Dana doesn’t write luz’s dad as some loser who didn’t care about his family, considering how luz responded how it was her choice to leave
Well yeah Luz decided to stay with the family who accepted her for who she was, something Camila didn’t do and actively tried “fixing” her. Just shows how toxic Camila is as a parent where she can’t see the wrongs she’s done.
@@MRDLT00 you basically just called camilla who may or may not be a single parent a bad mother and we don’t know the full story of luz’s family yet, also if you go back to the episode you would have noticed that the people that vee talks to were the same people who she hanged out with at camp when she took luz’s place.
@@MRDLT00 are you seriously calling Camila toxic after what was shown in this episode and how she treated Vee while she was impersonating Luz? Sure her aproach was not the best but she did love Luz's creativity and seemed sad when she was throwing her stuff away, she just wanted Luz to have friends and do better at school. You would also notice that Vee's friends are from the camp which means Luz would have found friends anyways
Seeing a Cardinal Palisman on one of the brother’s shoulders could make sense on why it bonded with Hunter since he reminded him of his previous owner due to the similar resemblance.
My thought on it? I think that Phillip is Belos, and his brother is Hunter's descendant. Belos got turned into what he is by using wild magic to prolong his life. His brother's family grew over time, though some of them were born with Human hearts, making them unable to do magic. Hunter *is* Belos' nephew... just very far removed. That would also explain Belos' weird ears, which don't look to be shaped the same way, in any of the lines, as any other Witch.
Theory: Belos is actually Philip and he took his brother's name just like when Stanley stole Stanford's name in Gravity Falls, and then Hunter is a Grimwalker of Philip's brother
ARE YOU A FORTUNE TELLER??? FROM THE FUTURE PERHAPS????? IS THERE GONNA BE EVEN A LITTLE MORE OWL HOUSE SUCH AS COMICS OR SMTH OR A SPIN OFF I MISS THIS SHOW
If I had a nickel for every time Michaela Dietz voiced a shape-shifting sweetheart trying to find a home, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but its weird that it happened twice.
One cultural detail you missed: Luz's mom didn't hit the guy with just a sandal; she used "la chancla!" (Admittedly, that still means "sandal," but Hispanic moms threatening someone with la chancla is well-known to Hispanic families)
I'm not even Hispanic and I noticed that! It's so cool to see writers including authentic cultural touches for their characters, rather than just painting one character a darker color and calling it inclusivity.
the brother up front has what looks like a cardinal the same as hunters staff, and the brother in the back has a piece of paper with a circle possibly a glyph
the ending of this episode made me think that belos will definitely get to sway luz into agreeing and even helping with the day of unity and I think she might be desperate enough to do it. from what we’ve seen the day of unity is exactly what luz wants: the demon realm and human realm coming together. she could have everything she wants and I think that’s going to entice her. also with all these philip and belos revelations part of me is thinking maybe belos isn’t as bad as he seems. I don’t think they’re going for a full on misdirect of him not actually being a villain but more so a thanos approach where you can see and understand his motivations, why he’s doing it, and why he truly believes he’s right, but you still don’t agree with the way he’s going about solving those problems. I think he and luz will mirror each other in that way, where they both want essentially the same thing (to be in the human and demon realm) but have different approaches to it where in belos is the negative and luz is the positive
Probably during Season 2B, Luz would be that desperate enough to make a deal with Emperor Belos and/or the Coven Heads to help with the Day of Unity when she thinks that if both the Human Realm and Demon Realm are merged, she would never have to leave behind her loved ones in both realms.
Belos is obviously Phillip's brother, the emperor coven symbol is an altered version of the tapestry one... Probably their family insignia. And the day of unity is Belos making his brother dream of "showing magic to everyone on Earth" real
12:50 One of the brothers is holding a glyph there. Seems like Belis might actually know glyph magic. I wonder what the other thing he's holding is. I feel like the fact that it's obscured might mean it's important. Maybe a staff that we've already seen or something.
Oh yea! And I remember how (I think it was the principal or someone else) mentioned that glyphs were part of the ancient times of magic 👀 1600s seem old enough
I mean if I'm told my daughter obsessed with fantasy worlds chose to stay there...Yeah I'd also freak out Camilla might just ave to...you know hear the full story Like sit her down and go 'Mom I believed this was where I could learn to grow without having to be different, and I always had a way home, I was gonna go back once summer camp was over, but the portal was destroyed, and I've been trying to get home ever since. I've learned not to sink into my fantasy world when things go wrong, not to accidentally hurt others when I wanna make friends, and to be careful about messing with things. I want to come home, but I want you to meet my friends...'
EXACTLY!! Luz never got the chance to tell Camilla why and how she stayed, about how if she didn't give up the portal and helped them, Eda, King and Lilith would die. But if she didn't destroy it, Belos would go to the human realm.
Exactly like everyone is mad at her for making that promise but let's look at this from a parental stand point you just found out your child is in a place called the demon realm with no way back, how exactly are you supposed to feel about that, I would be freaking out. And it seems like Camilla only has Luz
Been waiting for this breakdown!!! I cried for real with the Camila and Luz part. It's the part of growing up that's so hard. I got a thought about the day of unity. We all know by now the door leads to both worlds maybe in the end it'll stay open and the worlds will stay connected and anyone can come and go
Yea, i think maybe they won't be able to stop the day of unit but if so they'll be able to connect the realms in a good way. Kinda like the ending of Legend of Korra
I have a small theory that the brother of belos may have fallen in love when they went to the demon world and had a kid and so on. And years go on and what if hunter is beloses great x? Nephew which would help the theory with the palacemen and why hunter looks so much like the brother plus why belos wants him around and the no magic thing.
@@metallicsnake. that would make since but the only question is why did it take so long to get to the human world. Maybe the brother is stuck in the same place that luz was in the latest episode.
I think that if Luz had had more time to explain everything to Camilla, then she wouldn’t have made her make such a rash promise. This will likely work out in the end, but it’s going to cause a lot of drama for everyone involved in the process.
If Luz finds a way that would allow her to travel freely between both realms, I give Camilla 1 week max before she "frees" Luz from that promise under the condition that she returns home every time. She is to nice of a mom to ignore her daughter suffering. And let's be honest, if Luz get's "traped " in the human world becouse of that promise, she will defenitely suffer.
that symbol was probably the clawthorn crest, so belos had it to give to Hunter, and Eda has it from Belos's brother, the same family shared between the two
Oh gosh, now I’m worried which heartbreak will happen to each side. Heartbreak of your mother who raised you and always been by your side or your found family and friends that includes your GF? I mean one definitely has more people, but the other has the parent that loves and raised you.
What I really loved this episode was that Vee actually made friends at the camp Luz was so afraid of. Luz could’ve done that too. She could’ve made friends and been happy on Earth Also, really wish Luz had taken a few seconds to spy on Amity. It would’ve been adorable
Could she though, besides one being from the magical world, it's pretty clear Vee didn't like her life there and probably hates reminders of it. This getting rid of Liz's weird stuff. Yes Ve made friends, but she was also trying to fit in and become someone new. Luz did not want to make friends or change herself in order to fit in. Vee is literally a shape shifter, she changes herself all the time and that's kinda sad.
@@demonheart13 Fair point but these new friends are into occult readings and Luz could’ve probably turned them onto good witch Azura They also aren’t brainwashed zombies like a lot of fans were expecting so clearly the camps not very affective
then she would get distracted to how pretty Amity is and spent her whole time looking and her until the portal closes then never gets the chance to see her mom
Has anyone else thought of the idea that luz also lied to her mom, I mean it is called yesterday’s lie so it could mean that when she does make the portal she won’t stay on earth. And that she only made the promise to calm her down and hopefully easy the idea of her staying. Also the training wand could indicate that ether one it comes back and is used to hunt v down, or Camila stole it and might get in to magic and understand why luz was so fascinated by it and decided to stay in the demon realm. Whatever the case is we do have one thing that will happen luz will have to confront her mom about magic and why she stayed in the demon realm. Any thoughts
I think it's more than that. Another theory also by The Roundtable, is that the coven sigils were made to drain magic from the witches that joined as well as controlled them, like what we see Kikimora do to Raine
FR i feel like if he does end up having a role in the day of unity, it's gonna be the "i was starved for knowledge and ended up fucking up the whole world" type of deal. Kinda like in She-ra, when Glimmer activates the heart of etheria (Glimmer is not a nutjob but i think you get the comparison)
I personally imaging him saying "SEE I TOLD YA!!!! I TOLD YA!!!!". Then pick up his "armor" and fail pathetically. Later, he's captured and begins talking crap about being taken to Mars, and stuff like "You won't have my teeth". And Eda tells him "Have people told you are a total wacko?", he says "yes, but know-", and Eda says "-And they hit the jackpot".
The ending of the episode is giving me the feeling of Star vs the forces of evil ending 😖 also that line were Luz says “staying was the best decision she made “ that hurt on the emotional level 😢
Yess, the worst part is that Luz didn't even have the time to explain how the "decision" to stay really came, like i don't think she explained about how Eda, King and Lilith were about to die unless she gave up the portal and helped them
I think the one thing missing in the portal door is something that would connect the demon relm to the human relm. It's like using a G.P.S. without a end location, or having point A without point B. So the portal Luz made is chose the Mirror dimention as a default. If Luz wants to go back, I think she needs an item that has a strong connection to the Human world.
your right on so many levels, but the item most likely, would be something she's held on to from the start.. LIKE THE GOOD WITCH AZURA BOOK, it would be another big decision for Luz
Part 2 of the season I think we will get a mother episode of her trying to figure a way to get Luz back and will get some surprise help from someone... May be Grunkle Ford? I hope so. He'd be the right person for such a rescue.
The biggest guess I have for those statues is those brothers founded the town and had unusual properties which was why they had statues. We’ll find out around episode 17 or 18. Usually the later half of the season.
It's interesting how this is the second Disney show to have a character named Vee (the first being Vampirina, where the titular character was often called Vee).
I just realized there might be another Gravity Falls connection with the town Gravesfeild. Not only do they both have GF in their names, but they both seem to have a supernatural history
Wait, if Luz can’t use glyphs in earth because there isn’t any magic energy from the titan there, what happens if king goes there? Does glyphs work again? Or, if king dies there? Does everything around it gain magic, and everyone born in that certain radius is a witch that has that thing aside the heart?
Oh sheet your right, all the evidence I've gathered points to that, it's either that Papa noceda left Camila, but seeing that she still allows him in the picture could lead to Papa Noceda working abroad
Theory: Philip and his brother came to the boiling isles but only Philip made it out. Brother ended up staying and bonding with lil'rascal. At one point he had a kid, Belos. Belos then found eternal life made a grim walker, Hunter, and then the modern day.
Soo, as for the episodes spelling out something, so far we have “Seek the key” Whatever this could lead to, I don’t know. My mind immediately went “seek the key back home”, but that’s 8 extra letters, and we still have 11 episodes left.
I was reading again my “Gravity Falls Lost legends” book again after watching the video about Eda and Stan and I also noticed that on the next page of the one that has Eda’s wanted poster, when Dipper opens the Diary to read about the “Crawlspace” in the top corner of the diary you can partially read Boiling isles as the Title and something about legends and the word Wi… which I suppose is for witches.
I wonder who Luz's dad is considering his face was covered , and also I wonder if Camila will end up adopting hunter given his and Luz's sibling dynamic
I've been thinking about what Philip said...that all his "companions" failed. What if the Owl Beast is really Philip's brother, just cursed and over time, forgot who he was? Then, ended up in the scroll and cursed/attached to Eda?
The most popular theory that exists right now after this episode is that Hunter is the clone of Philip's brother Grimwalker means "The dead walking", and one of the ingredients to make one is "the bone of ORTET". I think, in this case, bone of ORTET means "bones of the deceased" So, if Philip is Belos (questions as to how THAT happened could be answered in season 2B), then that means he went back to his brother's (supposed) gravesite (Eclipse Lake), got one of his bones, and used that to make Hunter (jesus christ...) That's the current theory right now
1 thing's for sure tho, i waited til my bday to watch this ep and my friend watching with me found joy as everytime there was folklore, origins, worldbuilding and backstory, I reacted unknowingly and thinking back on it, it was fun , but yeah the episode was so good in the fact that it had history, somethn very interesting in shows
Well, Jacob does indeed have live archived footage of concrete proof. And although him saying he will use it to "get his account verified" sounds lame, that's still something to be very worried about, he low-key said he is gonna upload it to the *internet* . And you know what that means, everyone is gonna see it, will find some way to go viral, and soon, everyone is gonna know about it. Which could one day reach to the government!! So yeah, you have every right to jinx it that Jacob will be a problem later on.
Philip Winterbane and Belos are the brothers that were kidnapped to the boiling isles thats why belos knows what eart looks like but he was affected by the fools blood thats why he looks wierd Maybe???
Remember we have a interview on Twitter or something someone about a spoiler about this 1 tell the truth 2 is lie Gus puberty Hootie moving out Luz mom do the SmackDown I guess all of it is true
“Theory that Philib that a brother that turned into Belos” Well yes but actually not Who made that theory almost predicted a very good plot twist, just had to change the words around and he had gotten it
I just realized something… if Luz ever does find her way back home, would that mean she’d no longer see Amity? If this is the case, we could see some spicy bombshell as a finale.
@OFFOX I’d hope so but they need Titan’s blood to be able to cross dimensions and the only source currently known is the key and that’s broken meaning it has a limited supply. All the blood at the lake is drained so unless they find another source, this could be a likely scenario.
I dunno if anyone else used to read this series called "Sister's Grimm", but there was the same kind of mirror thing in that. Like, seeing everything in the reflection realm. It's pretty cool.
The Roundtable I got some theories. I think the brothers were accidentally teleport to the Boiling isles and saw wonder, while one brother tries his best to find a way home, his brother felt it was a change of face. These two could’ve married and bared many children including the descendants that would make Belos and Hunter. As for the witch, she tried to escape but the portal was destroyed so they were trapped on opposite sides. And if Hunter is Belos’ nephew that means he could be a descendant of the same brother who had a Cardinal. So after all these years that one palisman found his old friend but reincarnated in his descendant. As for Belos if he’s also a descendant he wants to see the land of his forefathers. And if he wants to expand his empire he’ll rule the human realm with an iron fist.
My theory is Philip went, and got trapped there then returned to earth. Then he and his brother went back for some reason (I figured that demon was King's dad), and something terrible happened.
Well there went the whole “Creepy Luz” plot line out the window. So much for a new antagonist, Luz just befriended her like she was a Steven Universe Future villain. -_-
My theory: Luz's father could be Belos' brother. He and his brother decided to go to the other dimension, and the reason Camila said "I've never been so scared before" is because she remembered when Luz's father was in the same situation, but he never returned, so she asked Luz to promise that SHE will return to her.
Whack theory: King is a basilisk. The place where King was born looked eerily similar to the basilisk holding facility this episode. Maybe King’s dad is disguising as a demon (the king demon) and his mom actually did look like king, and their child ended up as King. King is integral to the plot because he has the power to absorb magic, we just haven’t see it yet, idk weird theory
Man I can see why dana said season 2 is her true visions of the show and personaly forme luz used to be a boring mc in my opinion but season 2 made her way better
One thing I'd like to note about the doppelganger, is her little crooked catmouth. Suffice it to say, I went through something wildly traumatic. It totally shifted my demeanor. Hell, I started stretching frown muscles _I didn't even know I had,_ and ended up with this odd little smirk on one side, that's turned my smile all crooked. As a writer- and one who's been through those things _personally,_ it's something I would weave into my characters. A crooked smile is, in my works, a sign of a broken or breaking mind. I know it's little more than a character design thing, but that's immediately where my mind went. I don't expect the writers to have given her that expression based solely on the fact that her backstory is one of the most *_actively torturous_*_ ones in the setting._ I highly doubt it will be- or that they'd show the poor thing reaching her psychological breaking point. We already saw glimpses of what happened. I really doubt that's the direction they're going with her in the plot- it's now time for the characters to look forward, not back.
This episode broke my heart 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 but i loved it so much 😭😭😭😭 and i loved Camellia in this episode her saying i am sorry that I pushed you away please promise me you will stay that line Broke me 😭😭😭.
What I think the newspaper says: Every small town has its secrets, but Gravesfield has far more than most, and ours [havent figured out] ep, kept in and have made it my live's work to shine a light into and I have found far more than most.
"Every small town has its secrets, but Gravesfield has far more than most, and ours are buried deep, kept in the dark, and I have made it my life's work to shine a light into them."
Hiatus mode, what new shows will you be watching?
Please do a video on the Craig of the Creek capture the flag event.
Oh yeah Craig make sure you do that
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. RUclips is all I'll watch.
might rewatch steven universe after hearing Michaela Dietz voicing Vee, it gives me some nostalgia.
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Im glad the mom actually expressed her concern, I've seen in a lot of shows that the parent seems to have no concern twords their children being in another world. It adds more emotion to her charechter
Yeah and realism. It makes the relationship feel a lot more real imo
From the clips i’ve seen I really wanted some more emotion from anne’s parents in amphibia
For real! Like in star vs the forces of evil, Marco’s parents seemed to not care that they had a crazy magical princess in their house and that their son was going to other dimensions on the daily lmao
@@joceland5537 Well I guess they wanted to let him do him. Though they got lonely enough to try for another kid and then feared Star would take away that kid like she took away Marco.
Yeah I'm happy show like the Owl House and Amphibia do that
I think NO ONE expected to feel bad for “creepy Luz”
Also, the ending 😭😭😭
I watched one of this guys videos about creepy luz from a year ago, I think. I immediately sympathised with them…
Okay so the Grimwalkers use palistrum wood as keratin, a substance in the first layer of skin and other parts of the body. Belos consumes a green liquid from palismen to (presumably) keep himself from turning into that demonic black goop thing. His face has a corrupted streak across it. If Belos really is a Grimwalker then it's most likely that this streak isn't actually his face but a side effect of the fact that he ran out of palismen go consume. But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
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Yep 😭😭😭
v... call her v.
It wasn't her mother that drove Luz away.
It was LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE.
And her mom.
@@MRDLT00 her mom was literally the only reason luz wanted to come back to the human realm. Did we even watch the same episode???
@@anahi706 on one hand she did agree to put her in a place that strips you of your personality but on another hand she did have to do it because Luz has to go to school.
@@agenttexas3334 well 1.Luz literally brought fireworks and snakes too school so I wouldn’t blame her trying to make sure that that doesn’t happen 2.the camp doesn’t seem that bad since everyone from camp is still weird and interesting so maybe it’s more of a camp to get you to control your creativity so you don’t harm anyone
Her mom was lowkey the ONLY thing keeping her from permanently living in the Boiling Isles
I don't exactly know why, but I find Vee, what she's been through, and her relationship with Camilia utterly *fascinating* to a degree that nothing else in TOH has matched up to now, which is saying a ton.
is it just me or did vee give off some heavy m.t/lake vibs
@@raybarnett3774 YES 100% The whole episode I was thinking, "Why is she so familiar, I haven't seen her before?" Thank you for itching my brain
Maybe because it provides a new argumebt on why something like Jurassic Park SHOULDN'T happen.
With how camilla responded with “did you really hate being with me that much” I seriously hope that Dana doesn’t write luz’s dad as some loser who didn’t care about his family, considering how luz responded how it was her choice to leave
I kinda hope it's more of a "he passed away and that's why he's not there" kind of scenario.
@@howeboutthis I'd like that, but what do you think his death would be from?
Well yeah Luz decided to stay with the family who accepted her for who she was, something Camila didn’t do and actively tried “fixing” her. Just shows how toxic Camila is as a parent where she can’t see the wrongs she’s done.
@@MRDLT00 you basically just called camilla who may or may not be a single parent a bad mother and we don’t know the full story of luz’s family yet, also if you go back to the episode you would have noticed that the people that vee talks to were the same people who she hanged out with at camp when she took luz’s place.
@@MRDLT00 are you seriously calling Camila toxic after what was shown in this episode and how she treated Vee while she was impersonating Luz? Sure her aproach was not the best but she did love Luz's creativity and seemed sad when she was throwing her stuff away, she just wanted Luz to have friends and do better at school. You would also notice that Vee's friends are from the camp which means Luz would have found friends anyways
Eda's aim has gotten better.
*ITS FUNNY BECAUSE MARRIAGE IS TERRIBLE*
but shes still missing him
XDDD
The scary part is Dana said Season 2A is the *happier* side of Season 2.
Woody: *We are gonna die.*
Where did she say that?
@Kashmyrr Deano I can't find anything on it. Maybe she deleted it.
Wait what?
Oh dear God in Heaven…
....of *fun!*
@@acecelia3262 Perfect follow-up. lol
Seeing a Cardinal Palisman on one of the brother’s shoulders could make sense on why it bonded with Hunter since he reminded him of his previous owner due to the similar resemblance.
12:49 Can you guys see the one on the right holding a Glyph like thing?
@@alcromicalpod I didn’t even see that nice eye
If notice the brother and hunter even have the same nose
My thought on it? I think that Phillip is Belos, and his brother is Hunter's descendant. Belos got turned into what he is by using wild magic to prolong his life. His brother's family grew over time, though some of them were born with Human hearts, making them unable to do magic.
Hunter *is* Belos' nephew... just very far removed.
That would also explain Belos' weird ears, which don't look to be shaped the same way, in any of the lines, as any other Witch.
@@weebjeez I feel like hunter is a grim Walker due to the red eyes and how he doesnt have magic
Theory: Belos is actually Philip and he took his brother's name just like when Stanley stole Stanford's name in Gravity Falls, and then Hunter is a Grimwalker of Philip's brother
YOU ARE AN ORACLE
How the fuck did you even reason that in your head? I’m more impressed how you connected the dots..
@@mrmeme1950 ^^^^^
ARE YOU A FORTUNE TELLER??? FROM THE FUTURE PERHAPS????? IS THERE GONNA BE EVEN A LITTLE MORE OWL HOUSE SUCH AS COMICS OR SMTH OR A SPIN OFF I MISS THIS SHOW
If I had a nickel for every time Michaela Dietz voiced a shape-shifting sweetheart trying to find a home, I'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot, but its weird that it happened twice.
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Why would you have to nickels. Please don't Nickels.
@@nathanielredig3957 smart-ass lol
Not wierd, I think you mean: ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.
@@zagreus3698 both
Looks like my “Belos is a Grom” theory has been absolutely thrown out the window
Belos is a grom??? lol what a theory
12:49 Can you guys see the one on the right holding a Glyph like thing?
@Hange Zoë it looks more like a plant.
@@alcromicalpod omg I'm so glad I'm not the only one that noticed!!
You mean grimwalker? Because grom was the prom
Let’s be honest none of us were expecting to feel sympathy for fake Luz
I was one of the few that didn't immediately think Creepy Luz was nessesarily evil.
I did! Or at least I didn’t fully judge “creepy Luz” yet, just a bit.
One cultural detail you missed: Luz's mom didn't hit the guy with just a sandal; she used "la chancla!"
(Admittedly, that still means "sandal," but Hispanic moms threatening someone with la chancla is well-known to Hispanic families)
I'm not even Hispanic and I noticed that! It's so cool to see writers including authentic cultural touches for their characters, rather than just painting one character a darker color and calling it inclusivity.
Reminds me of the grandmother from Coco.
Not just Hispanic, it's a thing in pretty much the entire latino community. As a Brazilian, I have experience with that lol
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I noticed it as I'm hispanic and we dont use the word slipper or flip flop EVER in ny house
i can totally see King being a baby Titan, and Camila using her vet skills to draw his blood to always have Titan blood reserved
I think Kings dad is the creature that slayed the titan actually. Based on the cave markings where king was found.
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The amount of references to Luz's old outfit from the pilot is really cool
the brother up front has what looks like a cardinal the same as hunters staff, and the brother in the back has a piece of paper with a circle possibly a glyph
the ending of this episode made me think that belos will definitely get to sway luz into agreeing and even helping with the day of unity and I think she might be desperate enough to do it. from what we’ve seen the day of unity is exactly what luz wants: the demon realm and human realm coming together. she could have everything she wants and I think that’s going to entice her.
also with all these philip and belos revelations part of me is thinking maybe belos isn’t as bad as he seems. I don’t think they’re going for a full on misdirect of him not actually being a villain but more so a thanos approach where you can see and understand his motivations, why he’s doing it, and why he truly believes he’s right, but you still don’t agree with the way he’s going about solving those problems. I think he and luz will mirror each other in that way, where they both want essentially the same thing (to be in the human and demon realm) but have different approaches to it where in belos is the negative and luz is the positive
Probably during Season 2B, Luz would be that desperate enough to make a deal with Emperor Belos and/or the Coven Heads to help with the Day of Unity when she thinks that if both the Human Realm and Demon Realm are merged, she would never have to leave behind her loved ones in both realms.
I think you're on to something 🤔🤔🤔
Crazy it will lead to weirdmageddon like event.
Belos is obviously Phillip's brother, the emperor coven symbol is an altered version of the tapestry one... Probably their family insignia. And the day of unity is Belos making his brother dream of "showing magic to everyone on Earth" real
Thank you for explaining what I thought, I like Gravity Falls and lore so this is literally what I want
12:50 One of the brothers is holding a glyph there. Seems like Belis might actually know glyph magic. I wonder what the other thing he's holding is. I feel like the fact that it's obscured might mean it's important. Maybe a staff that we've already seen or something.
Oh yea!
And I remember how (I think it was the principal or someone else) mentioned that glyphs were part of the ancient times of magic 👀
1600s seem old enough
This has to be the saddest episode of the entire series💔 no matter where she stay she's going leaving someone she cares about behind
Theory: the boiling Isles is just florida or Australia
I don't see much difference
Flostralia
@@fiery114 yes
I still love that Luz's Doppelganger was first voiced by Luz's main VA and then voiced by Michaela Dietz!!!
I mean if I'm told my daughter obsessed with fantasy worlds chose to stay there...Yeah I'd also freak out
Camilla might just ave to...you know hear the full story
Like sit her down and go 'Mom I believed this was where I could learn to grow without having to be different, and I always had a way home, I was gonna go back once summer camp was over, but the portal was destroyed, and I've been trying to get home ever since. I've learned not to sink into my fantasy world when things go wrong, not to accidentally hurt others when I wanna make friends, and to be careful about messing with things. I want to come home, but I want you to meet my friends...'
EXACTLY!! Luz never got the chance to tell Camilla why and how she stayed, about how if she didn't give up the portal and helped them, Eda, King and Lilith would die. But if she didn't destroy it, Belos would go to the human realm.
Exactly like everyone is mad at her for making that promise but let's look at this from a parental stand point you just found out your child is in a place called the demon realm with no way back, how exactly are you supposed to feel about that, I would be freaking out. And it seems like Camilla only has Luz
The clone thing was a burst. In the episode, Luz and her mother conservation got me emotional😢
Been waiting for this breakdown!!! I cried for real with the Camila and Luz part. It's the part of growing up that's so hard. I got a thought about the day of unity. We all know by now the door leads to both worlds maybe in the end it'll stay open and the worlds will stay connected and anyone can come and go
Yea, i think maybe they won't be able to stop the day of unit but if so they'll be able to connect the realms in a good way. Kinda like the ending of Legend of Korra
@@dicentra985 I hope it ends up being like that because Luz has so much to lose no matter what happens
“There is a connection between... Phillip and Philips brother.”
-Quote of the century!
They drew the witch with a devil’s tail, has principal bump ever been to earth?
He is 500 years old but I think it's the old lady from the good which books
I have a small theory that the brother of belos may have fallen in love when they went to the demon world and had a kid and so on. And years go on and what if hunter is beloses great x? Nephew which would help the theory with the palacemen and why hunter looks so much like the brother plus why belos wants him around and the no magic thing.
Maybe with the good witch azura and he wrote books about her.
@@metallicsnake. that would make since but the only question is why did it take so long to get to the human world. Maybe the brother is stuck in the same place that luz was in the latest episode.
favorite part was when Camila pulled out a slipper from her bag🤣
DO NOT MESS WITH DA MAMA OR ELSE YOU GET LA CHANCLA
Luz now have a adopted identical doppelganger sister.
She do
6:29 THAT IS THE OLD GOLDEN GUARD SYMBOL THAT HUNTER SEWS ON HIS CLOAK IN S2 EP 13
I think that if Luz had had more time to explain everything to Camilla, then she wouldn’t have made her make such a rash promise. This will likely work out in the end, but it’s going to cause a lot of drama for everyone involved in the process.
If Luz finds a way that would allow her to travel freely between both realms, I give Camilla 1 week max before she "frees" Luz from that promise under the condition that she returns home every time. She is to nice of a mom to ignore her daughter suffering. And let's be honest, if Luz get's "traped " in the human world becouse of that promise, she will defenitely suffer.
As I child of divorce myself, with a mom similar to Camila, I think "did you hate living with me that much" COULD hint to divorce
Hunter is definitely a grimwalker of Philip as the statue of Philip has a scar and so does Hunter
that symbol was probably the clawthorn crest, so belos had it to give to Hunter, and Eda has it from Belos's brother, the same family shared between the two
Let’s be honest. The moment Luz promised Camilla she’d come back was the moment we worried about the future of LUMITY.
I was more of worried if she can finish the promise
Well that the first worry that trought my mind when she promise her mom that she will returned to the human realm permanently
Oh gosh, now I’m worried which heartbreak will happen to each side. Heartbreak of your mother who raised you and always been by your side or your found family and friends that includes your GF? I mean one definitely has more people, but the other has the parent that loves and raised you.
The show: Camila Noceda (with the little accent and perfect pronunciation)
Me: *cries in Latin American* 🇦🇷🇩🇴
What I really loved this episode was that Vee actually made friends at the camp Luz was so afraid of. Luz could’ve done that too. She could’ve made friends and been happy on Earth
Also, really wish Luz had taken a few seconds to spy on Amity. It would’ve been adorable
Could she though, besides one being from the magical world, it's pretty clear Vee didn't like her life there and probably hates reminders of it. This getting rid of Liz's weird stuff.
Yes Ve made friends, but she was also trying to fit in and become someone new. Luz did not want to make friends or change herself in order to fit in. Vee is literally a shape shifter, she changes herself all the time and that's kinda sad.
@@demonheart13 Fair point but these new friends are into occult readings and Luz could’ve probably turned them onto good witch Azura
They also aren’t brainwashed zombies like a lot of fans were expecting so clearly the camps not very affective
then she would get distracted to how pretty Amity is and spent her whole time looking and her until the portal closes
then never gets the chance to see her mom
@@RichardiOS275 haha. Fair enough. It still would’ve been adorable
@@justinbuergi9867 i don't think I would find Luz wasting possibly her only chance to see her mom again to be adorable
Has anyone else thought of the idea that luz also lied to her mom, I mean it is called yesterday’s lie so it could mean that when she does make the portal she won’t stay on earth. And that she only made the promise to calm her down and hopefully easy the idea of her staying. Also the training wand could indicate that ether one it comes back and is used to hunt v down, or Camila stole it and might get in to magic and understand why luz was so fascinated by it and decided to stay in the demon realm. Whatever the case is we do have one thing that will happen luz will have to confront her mom about magic and why she stayed in the demon realm. Any thoughts
My theory about why he was studying the basilisks was so that he could make the coven thing seal specific magic
I think it's more than that. Another theory also by The Roundtable, is that the coven sigils were made to drain magic from the witches that joined as well as controlled them, like what we see Kikimora do to Raine
I feel like Jacob is gonna have a a MUCH bigger role in the merging of realms when that happens but huh that’s just a theory A OWL thoery
FR i feel like if he does end up having a role in the day of unity, it's gonna be the "i was starved for knowledge and ended up fucking up the whole world" type of deal. Kinda like in She-ra, when Glimmer activates the heart of etheria (Glimmer is not a nutjob but i think you get the comparison)
I personally imaging him saying "SEE I TOLD YA!!!! I TOLD YA!!!!". Then pick up his "armor" and fail pathetically. Later, he's captured and begins talking crap about being taken to Mars, and stuff like "You won't have my teeth". And Eda tells him "Have people told you are a total wacko?", he says "yes, but know-", and Eda says "-And they hit the jackpot".
The ending of the episode is giving me the feeling of Star vs the forces of evil ending 😖 also that line were Luz says “staying was the best decision she made “ that hurt on the emotional level 😢
Yess, the worst part is that Luz didn't even have the time to explain how the "decision" to stay really came, like i don't think she explained about how Eda, King and Lilith were about to die unless she gave up the portal and helped them
Oh man vee is the most adorable girl
And Camila and Luz's moment tear jerk moment
And is Luz's dad dead
1. Papa Noceda is in the demon realm
2. Papa Noceda is a soldier overseas
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I see Ethier of those opportunities are possibilities
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I'm guessing going to get milk
@@shesjustafriend2499 the whole 'Dead beat dad" trope is so cliche. I hope he was a good papa
I took back everything I said about Vee. I used to call her “Evil Luz or creepy Luz.”
I think the one thing missing in the portal door is something that would connect the demon relm to the human relm. It's like using a G.P.S. without a end location, or having point A without point B. So the portal Luz made is chose the Mirror dimention as a default. If Luz wants to go back, I think she needs an item that has a strong connection to the Human world.
your right on so many levels, but the item most likely, would be something she's held on to from the start.. LIKE THE GOOD WITCH AZURA BOOK, it would be another big decision for Luz
Damn, cant wait for the scene in Sonic Rangers where Sonic devolves into a monstrous bloodthirsty beast
Kinda like Unleashed, actually
The Werehog form?
Part 2 of the season I think we will get a mother episode of her trying to figure a way to get Luz back and will get some surprise help from someone... May be Grunkle Ford? I hope so. He'd be the right person for such a rescue.
The chances of these are unlikely but it would be a shock
Coming back here, wasn’t expecting to see the golden guard symbol in this episode.
At 8:38
I think gravesfield is the only place that the portal can open to and the old shack was built around it
The biggest guess I have for those statues is those brothers founded the town and had unusual properties which was why they had statues. We’ll find out around episode 17 or 18. Usually the later half of the season.
I'm going to forever appreciate Luz's expression when Jacob talked about his Mars theory
It's interesting how this is the second Disney show to have a character named Vee (the first being Vampirina, where the titular character was often called Vee).
@shaquille mccray I haven't seen much of Chuggington.
@shaquille mccray omg chuggingtons I used to watch that as a kid
yesterday's lie is by far, my favorite episode of the entire series
“But with the day of Unity approaching, maybe she won’t need to say goodbye under the worst circumstances.”
*that aged terribly…*
I just realized there might be another Gravity Falls connection with the town Gravesfeild. Not only do they both have GF in their names, but they both seem to have a supernatural history
Wait, if Luz can’t use glyphs in earth because there isn’t any magic energy from the titan there, what happens if king goes there? Does glyphs work again? Or, if king dies there? Does everything around it gain magic, and everyone born in that certain radius is a witch that has that thing aside the heart?
Given how distraught Camila was over learning Luz ran away from home, it implies that she has a history with "someone" abandoning her in the past. 🤔
Oh sheet your right, all the evidence I've gathered points to that, it's either that Papa noceda left Camila, but seeing that she still allows him in the picture could lead to Papa Noceda working abroad
WOAH now that its been a few episodes later i think the bird sign is the golden guard sign
I wonder if season 2 will end with the day of unity
also I really want to see how Luz and Vees. friends would interact with eachother
Also the sign of welcome to gravesfeild had a symbol that looked like emperors coven (idk if u already said that)
Theory: Philip and his brother came to the boiling isles but only Philip made it out. Brother ended up staying and bonding with lil'rascal. At one point he had a kid, Belos. Belos then found eternal life made a grim walker, Hunter, and then the modern day.
I love your theory and your profile pic
13:44 Philup is Belos! And hunter is the brothers clone!
Soo, as for the episodes spelling out something, so far we have
“Seek the key”
Whatever this could lead to, I don’t know. My mind immediately went “seek the key back home”, but that’s 8 extra letters, and we still have 11 episodes left.
If it helps the next 3 episodes spell out
Fea so since were coming up to something big. I'd say the 4th will start with an R. So we get "fear".
I was reading again my “Gravity Falls Lost legends” book again after watching the video about Eda and Stan and I also noticed that on the next page of the one that has Eda’s wanted poster, when Dipper opens the Diary to read about the “Crawlspace” in the top corner of the diary you can partially read Boiling isles as the Title and something about legends and the word Wi… which I suppose is for witches.
I wonder who Luz's dad is considering his face was covered , and also I wonder if Camila will end up adopting hunter given his and Luz's sibling dynamic
The 1st thing you mentioned is also my question, but the 2nd thing you mentioned might be a little wrong but we'll just see
Watching this after all this time is... nice
I've been thinking about what Philip said...that all his "companions" failed. What if the Owl Beast is really Philip's brother, just cursed and over time, forgot who he was? Then, ended up in the scroll and cursed/attached to Eda?
Let's play a game. It's called "Wine or pine." Wine means the comment aged like Wine, and pine means it aged like swallowing a pine branch.
The most popular theory that exists right now after this episode is that Hunter is the clone of Philip's brother
Grimwalker means "The dead walking", and one of the ingredients to make one is "the bone of ORTET". I think, in this case, bone of ORTET means "bones of the deceased"
So, if Philip is Belos (questions as to how THAT happened could be answered in season 2B), then that means he went back to his brother's (supposed) gravesite (Eclipse Lake), got one of his bones, and used that to make Hunter
(jesus christ...)
That's the current theory right now
I knew Eda and Stan were married! I knew it
Vee is so adorable in her semi-Luz form, especially when she wears the hat and shades. She looks so cute!
The scene with Luz and her mom was so emotional
Vee's voice actor also voices Dolly from 101 Dalmatian Street, and Roger Craig Smith also voices Ezio Auditore from Assassin's Creed.
Is there going to be a video on the craig of the creek capture the flag
1 thing's for sure tho, i waited til my bday to watch this ep and my friend watching with me found joy as everytime there was folklore, origins, worldbuilding and backstory, I reacted unknowingly and thinking back on it, it was fun , but yeah the episode was so good in the fact that it had history, somethn very interesting in shows
Last time I was this early, everyone still thought Vi was going to be a bad guy.
the symbol with the bird is the old golden guard symbol from any sport in a storm
I feel like Jacob is gonna be a problem later on. Wait I probably just jinxed it-
Well, Jacob does indeed have live archived footage of concrete proof. And although him saying he will use it to "get his account verified" sounds lame, that's still something to be very worried about, he low-key said he is gonna upload it to the *internet* . And you know what that means, everyone is gonna see it, will find some way to go viral, and soon, everyone is gonna know about it. Which could one day reach to the government!!
So yeah, you have every right to jinx it that Jacob will be a problem later on.
Oh no
Philip Winterbane and Belos are the brothers that were kidnapped to the boiling isles thats why belos knows what eart looks like but he was affected by the fools blood thats why he looks wierd Maybe???
This is the second time in western animation where someone uses the la chancla on someone. Not sure if that’s the right way to say it.
Remember we have a interview on Twitter or something someone about a spoiler about this
1 tell the truth 2 is lie
Gus puberty
Hootie moving out
Luz mom do the SmackDown
I guess all of it is true
As a Gumball fan, after seeing Jacob Hopkins as a random anonymous name, I felt proud
“Theory that Philib that a brother that turned into Belos”
Well yes but actually not
Who made that theory almost predicted a very good plot twist, just had to change the words around and he had gotten it
I just realized something… if Luz ever does find her way back home, would that mean she’d no longer see Amity? If this is the case, we could see some spicy bombshell as a finale.
@OFFOX I’d hope so but they need Titan’s blood to be able to cross dimensions and the only source currently known is the key and that’s broken meaning it has a limited supply. All the blood at the lake is drained so unless they find another source, this could be a likely scenario.
I dunno if anyone else used to read this series called "Sister's Grimm", but there was the same kind of mirror thing in that. Like, seeing everything in the reflection realm. It's pretty cool.
The Roundtable I got some theories. I think the brothers were accidentally teleport to the Boiling
isles and saw wonder, while one brother tries his best to find a way home, his brother felt it was a change of face. These two could’ve married and bared many children including the descendants that would make Belos and Hunter.
As for the witch, she tried to escape but the portal was destroyed so they were trapped on opposite sides. And if Hunter is Belos’ nephew that means he could be a descendant of the same brother who had a Cardinal. So after all these years that one palisman found his old friend but reincarnated in his descendant. As for Belos if he’s also a descendant he wants to see the land of his forefathers. And if he wants to expand his empire he’ll rule the human realm with an iron fist.
My theory is Philip went, and got trapped there then returned to earth. Then he and his brother went back for some reason (I figured that demon was King's dad), and something terrible happened.
Hoping that this show will pull a "Star Vs. The Forces of Evil" and join both worlds. Or at least a public and open gateway between worlds.
Well there went the whole “Creepy Luz” plot line out the window. So much for a new antagonist, Luz just befriended her like she was a Steven Universe Future villain. -_-
But there wasnt a villain in SU Future
See forgiving is never a bad thing on personal level. V never hurt anyone but you can't pardon someone for all the other people they hurt
@@greyjedi7005 Exactly! XD
That was my favorite summer serie with adventure time and X-Men evolution (in replay).
My theory:
Luz's father could be Belos' brother. He and his brother decided to go to the other dimension, and the reason Camila said "I've never been so scared before" is because she remembered when Luz's father was in the same situation, but he never returned, so she asked Luz to promise that SHE will return to her.
Whack theory: King is a basilisk. The place where King was born looked eerily similar to the basilisk holding facility this episode. Maybe King’s dad is disguising as a demon (the king demon) and his mom actually did look like king, and their child ended up as King. King is integral to the plot because he has the power to absorb magic, we just haven’t see it yet, idk weird theory
Man I can see why dana said season 2 is her true visions of the show and personaly forme luz used to be a boring mc in my opinion but season 2 made her way better
Camila taking out the Chala was the most epic thing I've seen in a while
I doubt Azura is a real character so people needs to stop
Camilla really pulled out the Chancla!
One thing I'd like to note about the doppelganger, is her little crooked catmouth.
Suffice it to say, I went through something wildly traumatic. It totally shifted my demeanor. Hell, I started stretching frown muscles _I didn't even know I had,_ and ended up with this odd little smirk on one side, that's turned my smile all crooked. As a writer- and one who's been through those things _personally,_ it's something I would weave into my characters. A crooked smile is, in my works, a sign of a broken or breaking mind.
I know it's little more than a character design thing, but that's immediately where my mind went. I don't expect the writers to have given her that expression based solely on the fact that her backstory is one of the most *_actively torturous_*_ ones in the setting._ I highly doubt it will be- or that they'd show the poor thing reaching her psychological breaking point. We already saw glimpses of what happened.
I really doubt that's the direction they're going with her in the plot- it's now time for the characters to look forward, not back.
This episode broke my heart 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 but i loved it so much 😭😭😭😭 and i loved Camellia in this episode her saying i am sorry that I pushed you away please promise me you will stay that line Broke me 😭😭😭.
What I think the newspaper says:
Every small town has its secrets, but Gravesfield has far more than most,
and ours [havent figured out] ep, kept in
and have made it my live's work to shine a light into
and I have found far more than most.
5:04 "And of course, My Hero Academia!" **Proceeds to show Little Witch Academia**
"Every small town has its secrets, but Gravesfield has far more than most, and ours are buried deep, kept in the dark, and I have made it my life's work to shine a light into them."