I did like my round column mill when I had it, but agree raising the head was something I avoided like the plague . . . Your piece looks good so far, will be waiting to see it come together in part 2.
Gday Everrett, I don’t mind the round column, it’s got some disadvantages but there better then nothing, hopefully won’t be long and I’ll have another video out, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
Gday Max, a true line 8 would be good but the funds aren’t there sadly, all the material I’m using is stuff I’ve had laying around, bit cheaper this way, thanks for watching, cheers
Good project. Looking forward to seeing the end results. My son gave me a laser gizmo that projects a choice of a red spot or vertical beam. It has a magnet mounting arrangement, so I stick it to the side of the round column mill head. I project a vertical beam to a target (edge of a toolboard) on the wall about 5 metres away. Works accurately enough for the work I carry out.
Gday, that’s a good idea and having a vertical beam is a lot better the a single dot, if this build fails then I might have to get a similar laser, Cheers
Beautiful bit of Work Matty, I am always impressed with your fit and finish, and this project is of interest to me, another round column owner, well aware of the limitations. Cheers and thanks mate!
Gday Troy, I just got that pissed off I had to try something, extremely frustrating and even worse when you only need to lift the head 10 mm, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
That looks really good so far. It'll be a big upgrade to the little mill. I love seeing the process of it all coming together and it's good to see you back on youtube too. Thanks for sharing mate. Craig
My first mill was a round column mill I got 25+ years ago and I got so frustrated I gave up and sold it. This was before I knew anything about machining and there really weren't any RUclips tutorials. How times have changed. I feel your frustration. Hopefully this solution will work out for you.
G'day Matty I seemed to have lost you on my sight anyway it all worked out some how it's good to see you again. Good idea what you have come up with interesting and good to see you again regards John
That's very good sir your idea..very helpful for my work in my workshop..thank you sir waiting for your new video sir Success for you..I'm a beginner from Indonesia
Hello Matty. Nice work so far. It will be interesting to see how this one turns out. I've been using my milling machine a bit lately and it's amazing how often I need more height. Luckily it's a conventional type with a knee. I'd be stuffed if I had the round column type. All the best. Mart in the UK.
Hi Matty, Bruce Whitham makes and sells similar round head alignment kits similar to your proposed set up. I took the lazy way out and mounted a laser and beam it on the wall some 15 feet away, gets me close enough. The big problem is when you tighten the clamping bolts to secure the head to the column it shifts the head, albeit a small amount which makes it necessary to dial the job in again. The curse of the round head mill!!!
Gday Willem, I’ve seen the true line 8 but sadly the funds aren’t there to purchase one and I’ve got the material and machines to build my own, certainly be a lot easier buying one from Bruce that’s for sure, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
G’day Matty, it’s coming along nicely, looking forward to the continuation of this project. I wonder will the ring spring open a little when you cut it in half. Cheers Peter
My late father had the same frustration with his round column mill. He would have loved this - only 30 years too late 🙄. I'd have been tempted to try trepanning to chew out the bore, but hindsight and distance are no use to you. You're doing fine as it is, Matty!
I've been looking at round column mills. For the money they do look to be fairly girthy 😊. That seems to be the biggest issue with them. I like where your going with this. Looks like you have a chunk of induction hardened shaft there. Gonna be a high quality part! 😁 Thanks for sharing, Matty! I'll be following this for sure! Cheers! 👍
Gday Chris, overall there not a bad machine part from the round column, my biggest problem is I don’t think about job enough and forget to set the head height prior to starting and have to left it half way through then have to indicate the job back in again, being belt drive there’s not much that can go wrong there and it’s not hard to change spindle speed, Cheers
Hi Matty. Great little project mate.... turning, tigging, milling etc. 👍 If you haven’t split it yet, my 2c worth is to weld on the other tab ( the long one), before you split the ring. Might reduce the opening up of that side of the ring? Anyhoo.... really enjoying your channel 😄 Regards Robert
What ho Matty, I'm with you on the lazy front, nothing wrong in taking life easy once you attaon a certain age. I nearly bought a roundie but I am very glad i didn't, it would have driven me mad and i don't have a lot of hair on the top of my head to pull out. There is a quick simple and cheap way to keep head alignment, mount a laser pointer on the belt cover and point it to a vertical surface, like the corner of your shop, and you can maintain pretty close alignment. Obviously the farther awsy the wall the better but then you might need binoculars to see the spot. I'll now continue watching. ATB c
Gday Chris, I’ve never seen the laser idea but it would work well, the one thing I do like about the round column mill is there’s quite a lot of Z height compared the a square column, thanks for watching, Cheers
Looks good so far. Have you considered that since welding on the lugs made the ring out of round what will happen when you weld on the tongue for the round bar? Maybe any further welding should be done in small steps and allowed to cool in between steps to minimize heat distortion. Or after the ring is split and tongue is welded take it for a ride on the rotary table. 😁👍
Yep. I got one o' them round column bastards too. Just made a spindle lock for the thing because I don't have three hands. Been thinking about making something to stop the head from swinging around. Right pain in the arse zeroing the thing all the time. Be interested to see how yours turns out.
Gday, this has been really good and hasn’t given any trouble, it’s will stay within a couple of thou when you move the head up or down which is pretty good for a bloody round column mill mate, thanks for watching, cheers
I have the idea of using a hydraulic cylinder ( open, with no fluid ) from a parts tractor where the top and bottom of the cylinder are fixed and all of the slide mechanisms are precise enough and provided. This would be contingent on the allowable travel or throw of the cylinder. Certainly the shaft is beefy enough. Just a thought.
G'Day Matty - I've often thought with round column machines why they don't key the head and have a bearing slew ring for the column - with graduations for angles on the ring. But the expense I guess might not make it feasible. Stay safe and well :)
Gday Anthony, that’s a great idea to key the head and I don’t think it would be a great expense to do this in the factory, certainly make a better machine that’s for sure, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
I really like the design you've come up with and I think I'm going to build one for my Rong Fu RF-31. I may try a 4 inch hole saw to cut out the center section. It might save a lot of machining time and bit wear, as well as leaving a large portion of the metal for future use. In your opinion, do you think that would work?
G'day Matty, watching this a year down the line and I'm curious mate. What made you put the parallel down in the bottom of the vice? Surely the lower you had the ring held the better, and your vice bottom is ground flat and parallel to the mill table so the flat would register properly. Not a criticism at all, I'm just curious as to your reason. Going to watch episode two if I can find it lol. Cheers from the UK mate, Sam
I just got the same mil it's a grizzly go705 I don't have a lathe but I'm going to try and make this Cullum lock I really like the design wish me luck take for the video
Gday Ian, so far it’s been rigid enough for what it’s doing, this machine will be hopefully be gone soonish, fingers crossed, thanks for watching and commenting, cheers
I did like my round column mill when I had it, but agree raising the head was something I avoided like the plague . . . Your piece looks good so far, will be waiting to see it come together in part 2.
Gday Everrett, I don’t mind the round column, it’s got some disadvantages but there better then nothing, hopefully won’t be long and I’ll have another video out, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
I received my goody package and wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge. Thanks again.
Gday Robert, I’m glad you received the parcel, the postage isn’t the quickest sadly, appreciate your support mate, Cheers
A True Line 8 is what you need , Bruce Witham makes them ! Always good to make your own though . Cheers .
Gday Max, a true line 8 would be good but the funds aren’t there sadly, all the material I’m using is stuff I’ve had laying around, bit cheaper this way, thanks for watching, cheers
That's a good idea. I'm sure you gonna make it work. Go for it!
Gday Rustinox, I’m going for it mate, no holding back , I just hope it all works out, thanks for watching, Cheers
Good project. Looking forward to seeing the end results. My son gave me a laser gizmo that projects a choice of a red spot or vertical beam. It has a magnet mounting arrangement, so I stick it to the side of the round column mill head. I project a vertical beam to a target (edge of a toolboard) on the wall about 5 metres away. Works accurately enough for the work I carry out.
Gday, that’s a good idea and having a vertical beam is a lot better the a single dot, if this build fails then I might have to get a similar laser, Cheers
Beautiful bit of Work Matty, I am always impressed with your fit and finish, and this project is of interest to me, another round column owner, well aware of the limitations. Cheers and thanks mate!
Gday, I really hope this all works, certainly going to be a massive improvement if it does, cheers
awesome ! look forward to see how it works
Thanks Emma,
Looking good Matt, John, Australia.
Gday John, appreciate you watching mate, Cheers
This looks very similar to Winky's???? What I like about Winky's is his powered lift addition. Looking forward to see how it works out. 👍👍👍👍
Great idea I have same bloody issue very frustrating.
I Like your idea Matt it's a good one
Gday Troy, I just got that pissed off I had to try something, extremely frustrating and even worse when you only need to lift the head 10 mm, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
@@MattysWorkshop always good m8 its a pleasure to support you
That looks really good so far. It'll be a big upgrade to the little mill. I love seeing the process of it all coming together and it's good to see you back on youtube too. Thanks for sharing mate. Craig
Gday Craig, I think it’ll be a big upgrade and we’ll overdue, appreciate you watching mate, Cheers
My first mill was a round column mill I got 25+ years ago and I got so frustrated I gave up and sold it. This was before I knew anything about machining and there really weren't any RUclips tutorials. How times have changed. I feel your frustration. Hopefully this solution will work out for you.
Gday Robert, they haven’t changed design in all them years, still got the same issues mate, Cheers
Looks good my brother from down under
Gday Paul, so far so good mate, thanks for watching, Cheers
An interesting project. Thanks Matty.
Thanks Don, glad your enjoying the build, cheers
G'day Matty I seemed to have lost you on my sight anyway it all worked out some how it's good to see you again. Good idea what you have come up with interesting and good to see you again regards John
Gday John, welcome back mate, hopefully I’ll have a short video out soon, I’m almost finished on version 2 so stay tuned, Cheers
Great share , I will be watching for the install . I find the same problem .. ENJOYED
Gday, hopefully won’t be long and I’ll have another video out, hopefully it all goes to plan, thanks for watching, Cheers
That's very good sir your idea..very helpful for my work in my workshop..thank you sir waiting for your new video sir
Success for you..I'm a beginner from Indonesia
Gday, I hope this all works out, time will tell, thanks for watching, Cheers
Hello Matty. Nice work so far. It will be interesting to see how this one turns out. I've been using my milling machine a bit lately and it's amazing how often I need more height. Luckily it's a conventional type with a knee. I'd be stuffed if I had the round column type. All the best. Mart in the UK.
Gday Mart, i really hope this idea works out, only time will tell, appreciate you watching mate, Cheers
Hi Matty, Bruce Whitham makes and sells similar round head alignment kits similar to your proposed set up.
I took the lazy way out and mounted a laser and beam it on the wall some 15 feet away, gets me close enough.
The big problem is when you tighten the clamping bolts to secure the head to the column it shifts the head, albeit a small amount which makes it necessary to dial the job in again.
The curse of the round head mill!!!
Gday Willem, I’ve seen the true line 8 but sadly the funds aren’t there to purchase one and I’ve got the material and machines to build my own, certainly be a lot easier buying one from Bruce that’s for sure, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
It takes some parts to make a pass on a ring that big with a flycutter, but it worked!
So far so good Jim, appreciate you watching mate, Cheers
G’day Matty, it’s coming along nicely, looking forward to the continuation of this project. I wonder will the ring spring open a little when you cut it in half.
Cheers
Peter
Gday Peter, I’m not sure if it will spring or not, certainly hope it doesn’t that’s for sure, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
My late father had the same frustration with his round column mill. He would have loved this - only 30 years too late 🙄.
I'd have been tempted to try trepanning to chew out the bore, but hindsight and distance are no use to you. You're doing fine as it is, Matty!
Gday Russell, I really hope this all works, it might be a failure ye, only time will tell mate.
Looking good matty, watch them burning chips, got my cup tray on fire once, damn mess. Great video.
Gday, they were coming off hot and but I’ve never had a fire yet, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
hello from cornwall England great job
Gday Nick, appreciate you watching mate, Cheers
That’s a good idea Matty, and it should rectify the problem. How’s the big blue sharpie going? They come in handy don’t they. Cheers mate 🍻. Aaron
Gday Aaron, hopefully it fixes the problem, them sharpies are bloody awesome, blue is the best colour in my opinion, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
I've been looking at round column mills. For the money they do look to be fairly girthy 😊. That seems to be the biggest issue with them. I like where your going with this. Looks like you have a chunk of induction hardened shaft there. Gonna be a high quality part! 😁 Thanks for sharing, Matty! I'll be following this for sure! Cheers! 👍
Gday Chris, overall there not a bad machine part from the round column, my biggest problem is I don’t think about job enough and forget to set the head height prior to starting and have to left it half way through then have to indicate the job back in again, being belt drive there’s not much that can go wrong there and it’s not hard to change spindle speed, Cheers
Hi Matty.
Great little project mate.... turning, tigging, milling etc. 👍
If you haven’t split it yet, my 2c worth is to weld on the other tab ( the long one), before you split the ring.
Might reduce the opening up of that side of the ring?
Anyhoo.... really enjoying your channel 😄
Regards
Robert
Gday Robert, so far I’ve really enjoyed this project, hopefully the rest goes as well, Cheers
What ho Matty, I'm with you on the lazy front, nothing wrong in taking life easy once you attaon a certain age.
I nearly bought a roundie but I am very glad i didn't, it would have driven me mad and i don't have a lot of hair on the top of my head to pull out.
There is a quick simple and cheap way to keep head alignment, mount a laser pointer on the belt cover and point it to a vertical surface, like the corner of your shop, and you can maintain pretty close alignment. Obviously the farther awsy the wall the better but then you might need binoculars to see the spot.
I'll now continue watching.
ATB
c
Gday Chris, I’ve never seen the laser idea but it would work well, the one thing I do like about the round column mill is there’s quite a lot of Z height compared the a square column, thanks for watching, Cheers
Looks good so far. Have you considered that since welding on the lugs made the ring out of round what will happen when you weld on the tongue for the round bar? Maybe any further welding should be done in small steps and allowed to cool in between steps to minimize heat distortion. Or after the ring is split and tongue is welded take it for a ride on the rotary table. 😁👍
Gday, I’ve got a plan for when I weld the other bits on and I hope it works, time will tell i guess, thanks for watching, Cheers
Hello Matty,
Looking like it will work well... Sorry you've not felt so well, I'll email in a day or two...
Take care
Paul,,
Gday Paul, so far so good mate, I’m looking forward to your email, cheers
Yep. I got one o' them round column bastards too. Just made a spindle lock for the thing because I don't have three hands. Been thinking about making something to stop the head from swinging around. Right pain in the arse zeroing the thing all the time. Be interested to see how yours turns out.
Gday, this has been really good and hasn’t given any trouble, it’s will stay within a couple of thou when you move the head up or down which is pretty good for a bloody round column mill mate, thanks for watching, cheers
I have the idea of using a hydraulic cylinder ( open, with no fluid ) from a parts tractor where the top and bottom of the cylinder are fixed and all of the slide mechanisms are precise enough and provided. This would be contingent on the allowable travel or throw of the cylinder. Certainly the shaft is beefy enough. Just a thought.
Gday, this would more then likely work ok, certainly worth trying, thanks for watching
G'Day Matty - I've often thought with round column machines why they don't key the head and have a bearing slew ring for the column - with graduations for angles on the ring. But the expense I guess might not make it feasible. Stay safe and well :)
Gday Anthony, that’s a great idea to key the head and I don’t think it would be a great expense to do this in the factory, certainly make a better machine that’s for sure, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
Looking good so far!
Are you going to bolt the tongue onto the back? Just thinking about what the distortion did with the side pieces
Gday Tom, the next bit will be welded on at this stage, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
I really like the design you've come up with and I think I'm going to build one for my Rong Fu RF-31. I may try a 4 inch hole saw to cut out the center section. It might save a lot of machining time and bit wear, as well as leaving a large portion of the metal for future use.
In your opinion, do you think that would work?
Gday, a hole saw will work no worries at all and it would be much quicker, cheers
good proyect
Cheers Mate, thanks for watching
Get if flame cut out of a piece of plate by your friendly local stockist?
Hurry up and post the next video! Lol I have been planning the same mod for my round column.
Gday, it’s on its way slowly but hopefully won’t be to far away, Cheers
G'day Matty, watching this a year down the line and I'm curious mate. What made you put the parallel down in the bottom of the vice? Surely the lower you had the ring held the better, and your vice bottom is ground flat and parallel to the mill table so the flat would register properly. Not a criticism at all, I'm just curious as to your reason. Going to watch episode two if I can find it lol. Cheers from the UK mate, Sam
The parallel was in the bottom of the vice so the flat sat on it and kept the ring in the middle of the jaws
I just got the same mil it's a grizzly go705 I don't have a lathe but I'm going to try and make this Cullum lock I really like the design wish me luck take for the video
Gday, this lock made a big difference overall, definitely give it a go, thanks for watching and commenting, cheers
No need to apologize cobber, you can if you like express regret. (Ta for the videoz).
Did you consider trepanning that slug out instead of turning it into chips?
Gday Phil, no I didn’t, I don’t have a trepanning tool or any hss suitable to make one, certainly a good idea, Cheers
Remember to take out those bolts before you split it 😁😆🤣🤣🤣 I'd probably leave em in😲😲😲😲
Hahahaha I’ll probably forget, thanks for watching, Cheers
Hi, Is it possible to rise the column stand at all as I have a round column milling machine as well.
Gday, If you make a riser block to bolt between the base and column it should work, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Looking forward to continuation of this project. Thanks for the look.
Gday John, appreciate you watching mate, Cheers
Aw man. I was hoping you were going to cut the flats on the ring with the shaper.
Gday Tom, I thought about but the mill was already dirty and I’m a lazy prick😉, thanks for watching mate, Cheers
@@MattysWorkshop 👍😀
Must have been a shit weld a Matt lol
Why’s that?
You'll need a bigger bar than that laddie if you want to stop the head from bending it....that bar is too slender and will spring.
Gday Ian, so far it’s been rigid enough for what it’s doing, this machine will be hopefully be gone soonish, fingers crossed, thanks for watching and commenting, cheers