Oh my goodness yes!!!! Great point. Such a double standard. And suggesting someone’s nose is ugly, which is literally an unchanging part of someone, is actually so much more offensive. He didn’t even fat shame her though! But weight does fluctuate especially with giving birth, and it’s totally normal to acknowledge this and not be ashamed by this. I personally have birthed 4 humans and my weight fluctuated about 75-90 pounds over 10 years. I understand this and although I’ve been personally sensitive to it, I was never offended when my husband couldn’t pick me up. She was literally 4 months post pregnancy and it’s understandable she had extra weight. No need to make others feel like crap for something normal and natural. Oh my gosh this case is sooooo interesting!! 🍿🤓
He needed to know her weight, because he needed to lift her in the movie and he had serious back problems, so he needed to train for that, lifting those weights.
HE WAS Asking due to a REAL, (NOT A LIE) back ISSUES. . It CANNOT be laid out in front of us any CLEARER , then RIGHT HERE.. PERSONALLY , I HOPE BLAKE GETS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER LIES AND HER MANIPULATION AND HER SNEAKY, UNDERHANDEDNESS.#CANCELBLAKELIES DAILY
@@Michael-ur5qbnah, they make their own hurt out of ego. She got herself in bad press but could not face it, she had to blame someone else. It’s part of the disorder.
@@Michael-ur5qbit was the backlash of bad press. She didn’t know how to course correct after that other than to blame Baldoni and the production companies
Let's talk about how Blake deliberately tried to ruin Justin & his family's Christmas. How cruel. Then there's Blake sending Baldoni her lawsuit as he was desperately trying to flee the LA fire with his family, while Blake & her husband stayed snug & safe in their million dollar PENTHOUSE in N.Y. She is cruel & vicious.
@@jossilynsshe filed the complaint against him (the first one where she lays out her sexual harassment and retaliation claims) only 2 days before Christmas and then leaked it to the press, leading to everyone basically bashing him and writing horrible things under all his social media posts about him being disgusting and a predator etc. all throughout the holidays. Knowing that legal/pr/ and media firms to potentially defend him were all on breaks for the holidays. (Also New York Times only gave him 2 days to respond to the allegations and defend himself, which was a deadline that was impossible to meet but then even on top of that they did not stick to their own deadline and released it before that) It was a very strategic move on her side to do it at this specific time and in this specific manner
With all due respect, Taylor Swift knows exactly how intimidating her presence is, and the power she holds. She was even involved in hiring the actress who played young Lily, stated by the actress herself. It’s insane that she would now claim ignorance, and you’ve definitely been the ones fooled! Taylor and Ryan ganged up to bully this poor man out of his own movie using their star power. That's not an accident.
I think part of reason why we never see stories or articles regarding Taylor is because she has an incredible PR team and so many resources at her disposal that she can essentially squash any stories/articles that can make her look bad.
I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Having had the misfortune of being targetted by narcissist, they can be very convincing and turn people against someone else with great skill. But after all the evidence and receipts to lie and essentially try to CYOA? Nope! I now suspect she was a knowing and willing accomplice!
SO THANKFUL I AM NOT ALONE IN CLEARLY SEEING THE TRUTH ABOUT TAYLOR SWIF.... The only part I cannot figure out is how she is going with Travis Kelce, yeah he's a football player but he is not a movie star he's just an ordinary guy..... I think he's just using her for a fun time... But she's definitely not wife material
@ Even in the slow dancing scene, Blake is so difficult and argumentative! Imagine months of that! Poor Justin having to put up with that behavior and her threats.
The fact that she first asked JB to read a prepared statement taking blame and accountability for set issues before filling a complaint then legal case is wild. Just goes to show all she really wanted was to fix her bad reputation...it had nothing to do with reporting sexual harassment AND everything to do with repairing her damaged image.
Right? I keep hearing this, but I haven't completely gone through the lawsuits yet. ( I did hers completely. And I have seen a bunch of his, but I really need to go through both of them fully). But having not even gone through it, and just what I have seen so far, I'm 200% team Justin and to be fair, I have been ever since she made the allegations... because I thought it was really, really shady that she did it through the new york times and didn't file an actual lawsuit but only a "workplace complaint" ( which was inaccurately reported as a lawsuit). That was extremely telling. It takes some serious cajones, to turn to the person that you basically railroaded and extorted throughout the entire production. The person that you stole the movie from. The person you made fun of in deadpool. The person you relinquished to the basement and went to the premiere that THEY paid for on THEIR dime and wouldn't let them come.... It takes some serious balls to then turn around and tell them that they need to take the blame for your mishaps 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ She really is Amber Heard.
This! And think, if the allegations she claims are true, she was ok with being silent and letting a sexual harasser keep working in Hollywood to potentially hurt other women. All that needed to happen for her to hush was for him to get her what she wanted out of this movie and she would remain hush.🤯 No wonder she was all cheers for woody Allen and Harvey. But again back to my point, she was willing to remain silent had she gotten her way and let a perv and sexual harasser keep working in the industry basically is what I don’t think many see
She is talking about how Ryan and Taylor loved what she did when she wrote that roof top scene only to go infront of cameras and then says to the world that Ryan wrote it??? Like wtf? ... seriously. There is yet another lie no one is talking about.
I was very upset when I heard your part 1 and seeing all of your support thrown on BL without letting JB defend himself. Thank you for walking that back. It’s clear that BL has manipulated and gotten away with her bad behavior for years and I’m glad you’re seeing things without the MeToo glasses on. She really damages the ability for women with real harassment and abuse incidents to get justice!
these podcasters have an ability Blake Lively is entirely void of.... Self-reflection, and an ability to change one's mind in light of the revelation of new information that can challenge beliefs.
As a creative who works on large/long projects, I feel SO bad for the costumers, editors, and anyone else whose work was tossed out because of BL. It’s one of the most frustrating things that can happen, to pour your heart and soul into something for months or years and have it thrown in the trash because someone up the chain gets bored or pitches a fit. UGH.
Sexual Harrassment is serious and I appreciate it when women objectively look at both sides, consider all available evidence and form an opinion free of gender bias. Well done ladies.
Many men are suffer SH too. And to more I hear the more I think she was the perpetrator. So proud of all the beautiful ladies standing up for Justin. It really has given me faith in people. ♥️
the whole point of blake lively's accusation is - she wants Justin to be taken off future project of this franchise ( since Justin bought the rights to Colleen's work) -- using the morality clause. She wants it for her own.... So, to drag some one's career and reputation to feed her own ego and ambition ? Psycopathic, ruthless, selfish, no moral . no integrity, false inflated sense of self-importance. She should never come back. (but ryan is very powerful). Both BL and RR are just bullies. Real monsters. BL is a Talentless piece of work
That is my suspicion too. Especially since RR apparently tried to buy the rights to the sequel from Baldoni, but Baldoni refused. So this is their plan B?
Exactly!!! They were hoping to starve him out with expensive litigation. They forgot two things. Number one he has a wealthy backer. Number two the movie he just made almost $300 million of which he got a fair amount of because he was the producer the director and partially owned the studio behind it. He got plenty of money to fight them and plenty of reason to.
It really upset me before he filed his suit reading her obgyn part of the claim about the actor. The person who played the OBGYN has a masters in acting from UCLA and has acting credits. Just because he introduced him as “my good friend” didn’t make it unprofessional, it’s possible he introduces everyone that way
He literally address Gina Rodriguez as his good friend basically family after years of working together not "hey this is my co star" and most people he works with are his friends people he's known for years she is insane.
I think because Ryan Reynolds has so much power over Sony because Deadpool is a huge franchise that he used that power to support Blake Lively to exert the power of a power couple onto the set!
Ya Ryan really did wrong here and got involved when he shouldn’t have. I don’t think their relationship will last after seeing what Blake is really like as a person. She’s totally a narcissist. I think it just happens to really pretty ppl.. they eventually think they are better than everyone else.
RR has a Clue series and a potential franchise in Animal Friends. They've kicked distribution over to WB for but the latter, and I think he's no longer starring in the series but producing it because of the bad PR but he has a preexisting relationship with Sony that I assume Sony felt was more in need of protection. Now there are rumours of a Deadpool and Spider-Man movie - which would be Sony and Marvel Studios.
I am glad you mentioned the T Swift crisis because I have found my devotion to her waning in the midst of the brat Blake Lively's treatment of Justin Baldoni and many others in this movie. If this is Taylor's best friend, then I question who Taylor really is.
I have been super supportive of my young daughter's love for Taylor Swift but amidst this controversy, I've been questioning whether Swift is a good role model. Steering my daughter's attention to Billie Eilish and other artists.
Love the podcast, I’m so glad you both read all the texts bc people keep referencing the texts with out reading them out loud. So much has happened since this aired we need a part 3
This series should have millions of views. Not only mind-blowing, but so well-done. Not a single exaggeration or misinterpretation & all commentary struck a perfect tone.
I am so proud of you ladies for being open to be wrong about your initial perception of what when on. It requires lots of humility and integrity. Thank you for being objective and not doubling down and seeing the injustice of it all. You have gained a follower and my respect.
People make mistakes, and I agree that’s it’s a good quality that they can admit they made one. I hope they actually learned a lesson from it though, and that they think twice before they make ignorant comments based on unfounded allegations in the future.
Loved the deep dive. I'd also like to add a lot of people blaming him for letting her get her way aren't realizing the power play. Victim blaming isn't cool regardless of the gender. Just because he's a man doesn't mean he should be blamed for things he should have done while under the influence of someone more powerful than him with so much at stake.
I found myself getting very frustrated with Justin as I read through the lawsuit, it was maddening to see him submit again and again. But after I sat with it, I realized that I was quick to judge because I see a lot of myself in Justin's behavior. I think a lot of us do! So many of us have been on the receiving end of a manipulative bully at some point in our lives, and it's really really difficult to hold your own in those situations. I wasn't mad at Justin, I was annoyed at being reminded of all the times I did the same thing he did.
@@winterseagull I totally get what you mean. Also, hindsight being 20/20 we realize it after but when it's happening? It's very difficult to see the manipulation for what it is. I'm just glad for Justin and his team's sake that they had the foresight to keep receipts.
@booklover8872 totally. And it's SO EASY to look back and feel like an idiot for not doing x or saying y. I think it's such a normal thing to be self-critical about, and it's hard to not project that. Like really hard lol
I'm sure, as a rational man, he would think THIS should satisfy her. And it never did. She kept going. And, from what I'm gathering, she was threatening Sony to refuse to finish the movie, refuse to promote the movie, etc. SO JB might have had Sony telling him "just give it to her"
So glad you commented this. I think it’s really hard for people to remove their gender lens when assessing this. Of course, JB was walking a fine line, trying to appease the controlling, powerful people (BL, RR, Sony…) while making a film. It’s always a struggle for any Director or Producer to juggle everyone in filmmaking! I think the only reason this particular scenario has made it out of the industry and fully laid bare in the publicis because BL had connections to “titans” and “dragons” and was overtly including those in the film. She thinks she is a titan/dragon herself and should be allowed to do what RR and TS do to make their art but she doesn’t realise that they are deeply talented, intelligent, and good public speakers. I believe, if BL was as talented as her hubby and BF that the suggestions she wanted for the film would have been loved and embraced by the film production and it would have been a smoother process. The problem was, her ideas are not all as amazing as she believes. And we don’t know that RR and TS really love her ideas either! They might be encouraging her and giving her constructive criticisms that she ignores because she’s too dense to understand - like in the bar dance scene when JB is trying to direct her not to talk in a slow-motion scene (because it looks demented in slow-mo!). Sorry, I’m just so annoyed 😂
I hope when Justin wins this case, he takes the money to re-shoot the movie with an actress who is more down to earth and call the movie “It Ends With Us (Justin’s Version)” I wonder if Leighton Meester would be available?
I'm sorry guys i think you're giving Taylor Swift too much credit. Portraying yourself as relatable doesn't mean you are, lets be honest she never was. Everytime cases like this appear I keep hoping die hard fans of any celeb can open their eyes and realize how out of touch these people are... Their egos are so high and are consistently fed every day
Yuuuuup. I've read people commenting how they are starting to reconsider her and starting to wonder if she is a good person. I'm sorry, but rarely any of them are good people in general. There is too much ego, money, pressure and self glory in what they do and chose as a career for them to truly remain humble, grounded, truly grateful and aware. Im not saying they don't struggle and suffer cause they do, they are human...just not exceptional ones. And talking specifically about Taylor Swift a lot of her fandom is biased and living in la la land...as most fandoms to be fair. They literally support her WRONGS to a point where she is almost untouchable no matter what she does, which should not be so because everyone should be held accountable, especially people in power.
This Blake saga is straight from Taylor's playbook. Remember when Kanye exposed Taylor with his recorded phone call? And every time she has a new BFF, some scandal breaks out involving said BFF but Taylor just bounces and her hands are magically clean. 35 years and acting like a mean cliquey 12 yr old. I've also noticed Taylor swift also gloms on to any and every rising star to stay relevant. Her fans think she is being magnanimous and bestowing them with the gift of her presence. I think it's a case of keep your enemies close. She can't let anyone overshadow her. I don't understand how her fans justify her making a career out of basically playing a victim and singing about all her ex boyfriends with enough details for people to identify them, putting their personal moments out there for public consumption and commercializing every intimate relationship so her mindless mob can harass and attack them when any men doing that would rightly be called a toxic piece of shiii
Anyone who walks into a football game like it's a fashion show and consistently throws smiles like she's about to get her picture taken....cannot be living in the real world. TS is constantly acting for the camera. It's so unnatural.
I read both BL and JB’s lawsuits in total. It is absolutely mind blowing how much she has lied and manipulated in her attempts to ruin this man. From making false allegations, to stripping him of the ability to direct and produce his own film (that his company purchased the rights to), to manipulating all of the other actors to turn against him, to threatening not to promote the movie if she didn’t get her demands met to take over the film, to insisting that he sign a document “agreeing” to her demands that were already in place, to refusing to meet with the intimacy coordinator, to stripping him of his directors cut, to subjecting him to verbal abuse from her husband, and subjecting him to being the subject of a parody mocking him, to getting him released from his own agent, to having his name and likeness stripped from any promotions of the movie, to causing the budget to increase because of her demands, and then throwing him and his family and friends in the basement for the premiere of his own film and then accuse him of body shaming and sexually harassing you? All because of lies? All because she couldn’t separate herself from the character she was hired to portray? How do you make a movie about falling in love if she refused to be touched, and didn’t want to do any scenes involving simulated sex? I saw the movie and thought it was a little shallow, it seemed like it should have had more scenes showing the intimacy of the couple, not just “fade to black” cuts??? Absolutely unbelievable. The author, Sony, the New York Times and Taylor Swift got on the wrong side of this one. I hope he gets everything they both have. He bent over backwards to try to accommodate her while acting professional and just trying to get the film made to bring awareness to DV. She is done and so is her husband. Who will ever want to hire either of them again? WHO will ever want to watch anthing that either one of them ever does again? She needs to settle this quick because she is gonna go down hard!!!!!!
I’m having the same crisis with Ryan Reynolds. To be married or the best friend of someone that acts like this has to reflect on their own character right?
20:38 I know it is hard to swallow, but Taylor is not an ethical person herself. She throws money at charities but she is kind of a whitewashed feminist. Not to mention that she abuses her para-social relationships with her fans to have them buy item after item after ticket after album to make her extreme wealth. It isn’t surprising that they have been friends for so long. Their morals and values align greatly with their ultimate goal to be an elitist. I say this as a fan of Swift’s music. My kids are also fans. We listen to her music but we do not buy any merchandise or go to her concerts. We have regular conversations about how she isn’t our friend and we don’t know anything about her. I don’t think any person of celebrity, influence, or power should ever have that much of our emotional investment because they never have our best interest at heart, no matter how endearing their facade is.
Does anyone really think Blake is smart enough to so masterfully steal this movie from Justin at every turn… or was Ryan (with experience in doing this) calling all the shots and she was just following his direction? Blake and Ryan are equally guilty in trying to ruin Baldoni and I hope they lose this lawsuit.
I don’t think she’s smart, I think she has star power (whether that’s her or her husband) - which is what matters in Hollywood unfortunately. Lots of big names aren’t Machiavellian, they’re just powerful because they know the success of the movie rides on them. She refused to cooperate with wardrobe dept, refused to do promotion, rejected the script, the editing - cause huge delays on these issues and you threaten to ruin a project which was years in the making.
What are the chances that Ryan was over her shoulder watching those dailies and asking her why she's so flirty with Justin and she's now doing histrionic levels of damage control?
Eh I feel like this pushes too much of the blame off her. Let’s treat her like we would if she wasn’t a white woman. Society loves to infantilize them in particular. People don’t give black woman that much.
What I also would like to know is: Why has WGA not started an investigation yet into RR apparently writing scenes (with BL) during the writer strike? Wasn't that a violation of the WGA? Any other actor would've been penalized... I feel WGA is now complicit in this as well... (Edited the writers bond name)
I dont think no one really wants that investigated because it can get everyone in trouble if Ryan was doing rewrites but also the people who accepted the writings as well? I would assume anyway
@@dannygentry6988well it can also be argued that they only found out he wrote it after the after the fact. They didn’t know he was involved while the strike was ongoing. Blake is just an airhead she is so deep in La La Land that she doesnt seem to think before she speaks
@@dannygentry6988 SAG-AFTRA has been awfully quiet in all this. There wasn't a union rep for alleged harassment nor an investigation of Ryan's ghostwriting. Sum'n is off here.
@ she is not a a-list celebrity. Does she has an Oscar or golden globe? She is not that good actor. She put her focus on having4 kids and maybe she should just focus on her family right now.
Reality is Blake is trying to pull a Taylor swift she’s trying a page of Taylor’s book, that’s how Taylor treated her exes n probably everything Blake is doing based on Taylor’s advice. I’m a fan of Taylor Swift but I can’t unsee this anymore. I mean Ryan Reynold mocking Justin in the movie the way he did is exactly what Taylor does in her songs n video clips with her exes 😢
100% spot on right down to the mass unfollowing to create a narrative. Only thing is Taylor is smart about how she moves and Blake tried to copy her and failed miserably
Taylor Swift is a bully too just like BL and RR. She just plays victim better. Like girl pick better partners, maybe your the problem not all these guys that are a revolving door for your songs.
remember she wrote a whole ass song about her 2 week "relationship" with Jake Gyllenhal, and allowed her fanbase to brutally attack him online for YEARS. She is a bully
I am starting to wonder if Blake had the intention of setting these scenarios up from the beginning as part of her takeover. Everything seems so maniacal.
Maybe a conspiracy theory (beware) but at the time of the movie's released, RR posted an IG of nicepool with comment referencing low bone density and then during Betty booze, there is this ryle you wait,
Just so you guys know that 400 million is a "statement" and not at all, what Justin would be expecting. Just like johnny depp sued Amber Heard for 50 million. He knows full well that she's not worth 50 million, and it is the jury that decides the amount anyway. The 400 million is a strong statement, and it's meant to tell both Blake and Ryan and the world that they are dead serious
Not sure I agree in this case. She lied and destroyed his entire career and personal life, as the lawyers state. That mean sshe’s robbed him of all future income as an actor, director, producer and has damaged the name of his production company. Not to mention his suffering and stress. All of those losses very well could total $400 million (or more). I could see a jury awarding him even more when they see how Blake lied. Could wipe out Blake’s entire fortune and she won’t be employable after this either.. It’s crazy she did all this to herself just because of her ego
@HeartbreakingHistory I 100% agree with you about what she did. She's a terrible human being. But if johnny depp can't get 400 million ( and he was worth much more at one point) then I don't see justin getting it. However justin does have co plaintiffs so that affects things and makes it go higher. However, I don't think a jury is going to assume that justin alone lost 400 million in future earnings. I simply do not. But that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a lot of money. I also disagree that his career is ruined. I think it looked that way for about a week... before he filed his lawsuits. But the public is backing him so much right now, and we are the ones who support people. Hollywood is only a conduit to do that, but we are the ones who actually pay money. And I think he's got heavy support right now and that will get noticed, and he will have opportunities for sure I think the person who looks terrible right now is Blake...with ryan right behind her. I think this is career ending for blake to be honest with you. Nobody wants to support her now. These are just my opinions Though I completely agree with you about what she tried to do and the fact that she didn't care about destroying a man's life. 100% agree. She's a POS. But I think the fact that the public is rallying around justin is a really good sign, and he's gonna be okay because we are going to support him. Good people deserve good things. So I for will get behind any future projects he has. On a side note I think Wayfarer is actually producing a scarlett johansson movie right now. How funny is that? 😂 And totally on another side note, I was just thinking about something funny. I heard in september that ryan did try to buy the sequel from justin and justin refused ( so awesome). But then I was thinking about how everybody was upset, because the sequel will never be made because of this whole dispute. But then I started thinking, what if justin goes ahead and makes it anyway without blake? We would all support it, and it would be such a slap in the face to her that she got replaced 😂😂😂 He could even use young Lily to replace her.😂 And it wouldn't even matter to us, because we would all just go support it, and it would probably be a much better movie anyway. But really he could actually go ahead and make that sequel, and we would go support him, because we've always wanted to see justin's version of these anyway. And we certainly don't wanna see blake as lily.So he could pick whoever he thinks is a good lily, and he could actually make a good sequel. I for one, hope he does it and not seeing Blake would be the cherry on top and that would eat her up inside too, which is just glorious 😂
I believe the reason for 400 million is because the chances of a sequel is almost 0 now bc of all the bad publicity. I believe the film grossed 350 million. So basically they’re losing the chance of making money from a second movie.
@riapitts8322 Though I think if we support him making it, he will do spectacularly. It won't be the same and it doesn't have to be, but it would be great if we all rallied behind him with blake lively out of it and shot it out of the park and did even better than this one. The bonus would be that she is weeping watching the movie move on without her...and with a new lily, that's better than her. Ryan did try to buy the movie from Justin after all. As far as the price tag on the civil suit? That's just a statement. It's telling them that they are deadly serious. They are not actually expecting 400 mil and the likelihood of getting it is slim to none. But it makes a very bold statement, and that is what his attorney is doing
The first film made 300M+ . Now there's no way they will be able to make the sequel. There's also legal fees . They are probably loosing out on business right now . I think that's what this is about.
Comparible to a Lifetime show I suppose. This is truly a disgrace to an actor who was never a good actor. Blake always seemed nervous and played the same character.Dull and biting her lip🙄 .@@elisedemerveilles3065
She thought this was her eras tour or that she was keeping up with Anna Kendrick and scarjo .. especially since she expected to get the sequel and continue her self obsessed rampage
Exactly. Also, her songs tell her story from her point of view. I don’t think we can honestly believe that she’s always the good person who just happens to fall for crappy men.
Kinda not fair. Lots of songs and genres do this. It happens all the time and it's not bullying. Song writers, rapers, poets, express THEIR experiences. Not someone else's story, which it was RR did with Nicepool. What RR did is way worse, he wasn't in a relationship with JB. And it's a targeted repeated pattern with malicious intent. So the comparison is not fair.
@@LemonBaked. Most songwriters do not give so many personal details and about so many different people. While also making it obvious who those people are. And not all of their songs are so obvious about who those people are because their lyrics aren't so specific in the details. And they also don't usually make the other person be the villain in 99% of their songs.
Yes. I think Ryan took one look at the first of the daily’s and saw that his wife (who can’t act) genuinely wanted Justin Baldoni and he accused her immediately and she pulled the ‘Oh, just the opposite! He is gross and inappropriate!’ And then Ryan continued to affirm and encourage that narrative in her fragile little narcissistic mind.
Scarlett Johanson did say how controlling Reynolds was. Blake still gets zero pass.. she should have stood up to him if it's a jealousy, control issue. Blake's life style has gone to her head and blurred the lines of power and integrity. She has none.
Yeah. I saw the takes and she was literally melting... She's not a good enough actress to pull that off while on character. That was the real Blake all over Justin. Then he yelled cut and you could see that was the real him after cut and telling her they have more than enough reel. She was into him. I am a woman, I know that look. 😂
The biggest issue that nobody seems to talk about is the precedent she’s setting where filming simple romantic scenes in movies can potentially lead to a SA case. This could mean not just intimacy coordinators but entire legal teams will need to be present on sets in the future. I mean her career is probably over. Nobody will want to risk any serious allegations just because she doesn’t get her way. But what’s worrying is that it could put the whole film industry in a tough position. Making a movie is already expensive and difficult. But this precedent will make it even more complicated and “risky” from a legal perspective. 1:28:34
Blake is a liability for producers because they will scared that she will threaten to leave the movie or that she will take everything as SH. Because you know, she is so irresponsible for every man
For some reason my take on this is that Blake developed a serious crush on Justin that she couldn’t handle (or wasn’t reciprocated) and her ego went completely off the rails, encouraged by the movie crew and cast walking on egg shells around her because she was the lead, protected by Sony and an A + list celebrity.
I agree. She's been known to fall for her co-stars and has said she just plays herself. I also feel like she has some sort of social anxiety issue bc she's a little unhinged in her interviews. But I do think he's not an angel. I read that his current lawyer actually sued him a couple of years ago on behalf of someone that accused him of stealing their script.
39:17 Sony was frantic because Ryan was writing the script when there was a strike. You know, the strike that aims to provide better funding and job security for writers... and here's a big actor taking away their jobs without prior notice.
*20:21* ...watching you two *possibly* conceive the notion that TS may not actually be the nice girl was sad but relatable. Not a TS fan, but I am a Hugh Jackman fan, and I'm questioning his character 😂 His random involvement with the promo for It Ends with Us and participating in scenes with "Nicepool". Insane to see grown adults use so many innuendos to mock Baldoni in a highly anticipated, and yet completely *separate* film. If that's not the definition of petty, I don't know what is.
I agree. I have also started to see Hugh Jackman in a different light, first with the divorce and now with that ”in-your-face” bromance with Ryan Reynolds.
It’s crazy that this is all happening *just* because of Blake’s enormous ego. She wanted everything her way and created this entire storm. It’s actually insane. Never in the history of Hollywood has this ever happened like this.. so she’s literally the most egotistical actress there has ever been, if you think about it. Basically allllll other actors in the past have been able to cooperate somewhat and then move on after the project. This is crazy.
And the shoes she chooses to wear during dancing in the bar scene, were HIGH HEELS sparkling rhinestone high heels. With jeans. Like girl, your character is a humble flower shop owner who just graduated college. She's not wearing those heels to a casual sports bar! 😂
@Hexa1123 geeezz I had no idea. Oh but they were red bottoms huh so I should've known. Girl how you not gonna read the book?! What movie has she even been in, in the last 10 yeadz??
@Hexa1123 @Hexa1123 geeezz I had no idea. Oh but they were red bottoms huh so I should've known. Girl how you not gonna read the book?! What movie has she even been in, in the last 10 yeadz??
As someone who's been team Justin since the beginning, I just wanna say thank you for taking the time to hear his side of this. When her NYT article came out, it was so bizarre to me how, after the IEWU press tour, everyone so quickly believed everything she claimed without full context or witness testimony to support her. Especially bc consistent witness testimony is one of the only ways sa/dv vctms are able to prosecute their absrs. I mean, just look at Harvey Weinstein. Everybody, including Blake, knew what he was doing bc there are countless witnesses. Blake herself has many vctms and witnesses to her abse. And that "believe her first, ask questions never" mentality, is exactly how and why Justin lost everything.
Imho, Bottom line here, Blake held Justin hostage until she got her way. That is called coercion & EXTORTION. She is & probably always has been a mean girl monster. I don't think intelligent people will fall for the post- partum " haze" nonsense. She had too much time to plot, calculate, scheme, and manipulate taking over this film. Besides which, she has nannies & servants to take care of any stress she may have felt. This would be just another spin job to excuse her horrendous, malicious behavior. No, this ridiculous spin tale would NEVER be believed, nor should it. Imho
Isabela Ferrer, the actress playing adolescent Lilly Bloom, was actually the right age to play adult Lilly, since at the time of filming she was 23-24 years old. Imagine how easy the entire production of this movie would have been had they went with that version.
I'm glad you gals didn't have an ego and actually went through Justin's lawsuit with an unbiased view. There are a few youtubers (cough filmcooper) with more than a million following who jumped on the gun to defend blake so hard (on more than one occasion) and then went radio silent as soon as justin released everything. I also love how articulate you guys are
Yeah I'm disappointed with their defense of Taylor Swift (who has historically shown to be exactly Blake just with better PR and more cunning) but I do admire them for attempting to be objective and changing their stance as more info came out. I never once believed Blake. I have found myself dragged into enough friend groups with Blakes and Taylors as a teenager ( and escaped) to be able to spot these vile evil women a thousand miles away.
I agree with most of what you said except your statement "men are disgusting". 1:04:06 You are adding to the problem by making such non-chalant statements. If a guy said "women are disgusting", we'd be all over that. Thanks!
Was Blake Lively competing with Anna Kendrick's directorial debut with Woman of the Hour? This could explain why she couldn't wait to secure her own movie and hijacked Justin Baldoni's with an earlier release before Kendrick's movie release in October 2024.
And the eras tour and scarjo is directing a film with Justin’s company I think- she definitely was trying to keep up with jones by stealing a franchise and making it all about how wonderful she thinks she is
You 2 have done the ABSOLUTELY BEST Breakdown of this sad reality of Lively & Baldoni. (She's a Monster, unfortunately) Out of hundreds of podcast, you both nailed this vs ALL THE REST. Thankyou!!! You both discovered a way of not speaking over each other, maintaining calm fluid monotones, exceptional organization in delivering the story. You both are journalist comparible to ( or better) the greatest we have had in news media. Thankyou❤
@@ErinJeanetteI'm extremely impressed. I have to stop majority podcast 1 minute in. The loud intros, yapping over each other, going off topic. Most end up giving me anxiety. I'm excited I came across them last night. Im hopeful they will move up in celebrity interviews and go to the top with sponsors and the best in all they do. ❤
Having listened to everything being read, it seems to me Baldoni was beyond compliant, he was gracious, complimentary, mindful yet they (Blake/Ryan) continued to flex 💪 their connections and impose during the entire project. I believe in purpose, and although it’s a terrible experience for Baldoni, he was chosen to expose these truths about these entitled bullies who have likely been getting away with corruption & such awful behavior. I hope justice is served.
I have been so intrigued by this after a month of listening to this it seems as though Ryan got jealous and Blake agreed to pursue the harassment claims. This smoothed over their relationship but then they saw it as an opportunity to exploit the situation. Also Blake was jealous of Scarlett Johansens directorial debut which wayfarer ( Justin’s company) are the producers on. So this sparked the ambitious approach to getting control of the movie using tactics Ryan used for deadpool. It was working however with the back lash they overstepped further with blatant lies with the harassment complaint. So fascinating. That’s my theory.
OMG - You figured it out - Blake wanted to get up on Scarlet. It’s obvious Blake has always been a bitch, but this level of pushing was too egregious. Blake is so petty and jealous and desperate to compete with Scarlet, it all makes sense now.
I think this is more about Blake and her insecurities and her intimacy issues. The released footage clearly shows she was nervous, and she just always seems socially awkward. He was just trying to make her feel at ease with the out of character side chat, while they’re dancing. The obsessive need for control, and insecurity, usually goes hand in hand.
I can’t believe how without shame she made these accusations. She pretends to be a feminist when she’s really not. How can u bring up such lies and pretend to be a victim. Because of people like her we as a woman have hard times. Shame on her and her family. I am glad Baldoni has been keeping receipts.
What’s kind of funny is that she gave the reporter back in the day so much shit for asking about her wardrobe in the film she was promoting…. And then cut to it ends with us, she needs to have full control of wardrobe as it is very important to her…
So many others have flipped the script as well, thank goodness. The video coming out with audio said it all. Hopefully every last human sways to the truth on this. They are shameful , B&R are .
This is probably the best break down and condensed overview of the situation on YT that I have found. Good job ladies ❤very easy to follow and easy to understand.
Good for you for adjusting your opinions and not doubling down. None of this smelled right from the start and it will be very very interesting to see if she gets what she deserves out of it.
As a survivor of a highly manipulative, abusive narcissistic marriage, I just want to add a few personal observations: 1. When you are constantly love-bombed, gaslighted and manipulated, it creates a very very stressful environment. I literally feel triggered when I hear about things she was doing. One constantly walks on eggshells and is always worried about what innocuous thing the abuser might feel insulted by. His texts and his constantly stroking her ego, reminds me so much of how I started interacting with my husband. My communication was pitiful, weak and enabling, when I look back. 2. I totally empathise when finally Justin just raises a white flag and gives up his entire creative vision. After so much stress and gaslighting by all the people around, you just want to take a break and give in to the persistent demand. 3. People like blake are very manipulative. ( it's how they have always operated, so it's easy/natural for them) they turn other people against their victim by all tricks imaginable. They will create situations where if the victim reacts, then without showing the full context, they paint the victim as crazy, mad or abusive. And from the limited facts/story, most bystanders believe. 4. Most importantly, people like her, project exactly what they do on to the victim. So believe it when they say that there was sexual harassment, unprofessionalism, bullying etc on the sets. It's what she did to him.
It’s ironic they choose a woman who uses the public’s sympathy for abuse victims, to abuse. Of course she does have those dragons. Truly ironic, Khaleesi and her dragons meet their end by a man with a bun.
It's ironic that the story arc of nice pool closely follows what Lively and Reynolds were trying to do and actually accomplished somewhat with Baldoni. Deadpool wanted Nice pools dog at all cost and was glad when he was killed and could take his dog. Lively wanted Baldoni's film at all cost and used her power to ultimately get it. Reynolds properly reflected their intent in Deadpool.
She took being married to Ryan Reynolds went to her head. She isn't an A lister who does get privileges. I think she over ranked herself. Being married to a A lister isn't valid.
If she could threaten the director with her husband and Taylor, imagine what she did to the crew. I'm dying to see the essay messages she wrote to each one of them to the point that they cut off their relationship with Justin.
As an intellectual property attorney, I truly appreciate the detailed, critical analysis from this episode. I had a very hard time stomaching the first take after the collusion between Blake's team and the New York Times (salacious and convincing as it was at first blush). It just always seemed to defy credulity that an actress with such clout would not simply walk away from a film on which she was being harassed, or at a minimum alert Sony or SAG-AFTR with concrete anecdotal if not documented evidence (especially if she suspected women with less standing were experiencing the same sexual overtures on set). One issue I still have difficulty rationalizing is whether Ryan was actually "duped." From a distance, Colleen and the cast were understandably either legitimately manipulated by lies, incentivized by prospects for the sequel, gobsmacked by Blake's perceived star power, or otherwise pressured into ostracizing Justin. However, as Megyn Kelly and Bryan Freedman aptly point out, it is hard to reconcile a SINCERELY outraged and protective husband trolling his wife's harasser with a character like Nicepool in Deadpool 3. All of the scenes involving Nicepool were filmed at the tail end of production in January of 2024 long after the alleged "fat-shaming" as wells as the "17 point list" not-so-subtle sugessting unlawful behavior by Justin. You don't normalize that behavior by poking fun at the harrasser. Further, Blake would also have engaged in grossly inappropriate innuendo (if the SH allegations are true), by acknowledging "Gordon Reynolds" in the credits of her cut - Ryan's recognized alter-ego who allegedly played Nicepool.
I always thought the claim that she had a crush on him was ridiculous until I thought about one of her statements. Anyone who has been SHd if you want to accuse somebody would you include the statement "I'm not even attracted to you." Like how would this help her case? It's like saying he was trying to stab me, but he had no knife. Plus: He didn't even say that on camera. My guess is, and maybe it's wild, but I think he said that to reject her when she came on to him and because of her hurt ego she included that statement even though it does nothing for her case.
Yes! I spotted that too! When I watched the film dance footage I noticed that that statement is describing that moment; but Justin says 'cut' not 'I'm not attracted to you' ☮️
And after all of this bullsh*t to still compliment her / have nothing but good things to say during the promo of the movie is absolute class from Justin. King energy sir !! Bravo 👏 One has to be very evolved and truly kind hearted to be this much of the bigger person. Blake and Ryan really mistook his kindness for weakness. They effed around, ...Now it's find out time !!
Your Part Two episode is way better than Part One! New listener here and I enjoyed your deep dive on this drama, very thorough and agree with your takes. I feel so sad for JB, he probably has PTSD from this experience with BL. Glad he is finally standing up for himself.
My last review was pretty harsh, sorry. Thanks for you're review. We can all take a lesson in not judging while everything unfolds. People really just want to give women then benefit of the doubt because in most instances, we usually are a victim of SH and SA.
Don’t be fooled….Taylor Swift is the same mean girl as Blake is…..she just has better PR. I’d bet that every nice, supportive thing she says is only for her image and to gain fans and does not mean any of it!!!
I love the fact that you guys will actually even consider holding Taylor Swift accountable even tho u r huge Swifties. I have never been a “Swifty” but i have always liked her. I have never been to one of her concerts (mostly bcuz i cant justify spending that much on a ticket) but thats me. I just love that you guys are willing to actually pause and think about their friendship and who TS actually is. Just shows me that you guys are genuine and want the TRUTH! Thanks for that!
So him asking about her weight is a fat shaming but her suggesting that he gets a nose job is appropriate?
Oh my goodness yes!!!! Great point. Such a double standard. And suggesting someone’s nose is ugly, which is literally an unchanging part of someone, is actually so much more offensive. He didn’t even fat shame her though! But weight does fluctuate especially with giving birth, and it’s totally normal to acknowledge this and not be ashamed by this. I personally have birthed 4 humans and my weight fluctuated about 75-90 pounds over 10 years. I understand this and although I’ve been personally sensitive to it, I was never offended when my husband couldn’t pick me up. She was literally 4 months post pregnancy and it’s understandable she had extra weight. No need to make others feel like crap for something normal and natural. Oh my gosh this case is sooooo interesting!! 🍿🤓
@@girlnamederin3339
Anyway, she IS a big girl, for all to see.
He needed to know her weight, because he needed to lift her in the movie and he had serious back problems, so he needed to train for that, lifting those weights.
HE WAS Asking due to a REAL, (NOT A LIE) back ISSUES. . It CANNOT be laid out in front of us any CLEARER , then RIGHT HERE.. PERSONALLY , I HOPE BLAKE GETS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER LIES AND HER MANIPULATION AND HER SNEAKY, UNDERHANDEDNESS.#CANCELBLAKELIES DAILY
According to her is a joke 🙄
She was given everything she wanted and she still went after him... that's frightening.
Something else happened. Even people with personality disorders have to get really hurt to go this far. Wonder what it was…
@@Michael-ur5qbOr have something at stake we don’t understand. Marriage?
@@Michael-ur5qbnah, they make their own hurt out of ego. She got herself in bad press but could not face it, she had to blame someone else. It’s part of the disorder.
@@Michael-ur5qbit was the backlash of bad press. She didn’t know how to course correct after that other than to blame Baldoni and the production companies
She wants the rights to the 2nd book
Let's talk about how Blake deliberately tried to ruin Justin & his family's Christmas. How cruel. Then there's Blake sending
Baldoni her lawsuit as he was desperately trying to flee the LA fire with his family, while Blake & her husband stayed snug & safe in their million dollar PENTHOUSE in N.Y. She is cruel & vicious.
Blake is disgraceful, not decent human
ALL. OF. THIS. ‼️
What happened on Christmas?
What happened on Christmas?
@@jossilynsshe filed the complaint against him (the first one where she lays out her sexual harassment and retaliation claims) only 2 days before Christmas and then leaked it to the press, leading to everyone basically bashing him and writing horrible things under all his social media posts about him being disgusting and a predator etc. all throughout the holidays. Knowing that legal/pr/ and media firms to potentially defend him were all on breaks for the holidays. (Also New York Times only gave him 2 days to respond to the allegations and defend himself, which was a deadline that was impossible to meet but then even on top of that they did not stick to their own deadline and released it before that) It was a very strategic move on her side to do it at this specific time and in this specific manner
With all due respect, Taylor Swift knows exactly how intimidating her presence is, and the power she holds. She was even involved in hiring the actress who played young Lily, stated by the actress herself. It’s insane that she would now claim ignorance, and you’ve definitely been the ones fooled! Taylor and Ryan ganged up to bully this poor man out of his own movie using their star power. That's not an accident.
Bingo
I think part of reason why we never see stories or articles regarding Taylor is because she has an incredible PR team and so many resources at her disposal that she can essentially squash any stories/articles that can make her look bad.
Birds of a feather
I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Having had the misfortune of being targetted by narcissist, they can be very convincing and turn people against someone else with great skill. But after all the evidence and receipts to lie and essentially try to CYOA? Nope! I now suspect she was a knowing and willing accomplice!
SO THANKFUL I AM NOT ALONE IN CLEARLY SEEING THE TRUTH ABOUT TAYLOR SWIF....
The only part I cannot figure out is how she is going with Travis Kelce, yeah he's a football player but he is not a movie star he's just an ordinary guy..... I think he's just using her for a fun time... But she's definitely not wife material
I don’t know how anyone would ever want to work with Blake again. She is just so incredibly difficult on every single level.
she's not being difficult, difficult actors dont try to become the director and shut him or her out completely
@@chimchimcharoo56 what would you describe her unprofessional behaviour as the ?
@@monzif not difficult, then impossible. The poor guy could not win
@@chimchimcharoo56I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. That’s the very definition of difficult
@ Even in the slow dancing scene, Blake is so difficult and argumentative! Imagine months of that! Poor Justin having to put up with that behavior and her threats.
The fact that she first asked JB to read a prepared statement taking blame and accountability for set issues before filling a complaint then legal case is wild. Just goes to show all she really wanted was to fix her bad reputation...it had nothing to do with reporting sexual harassment AND everything to do with repairing her damaged image.
Right? I keep hearing this, but I haven't completely gone through the lawsuits yet. ( I did hers completely. And I have seen a bunch of his, but I really need to go through both of them fully). But having not even gone through it, and just what I have seen so far, I'm 200% team Justin and to be fair, I have been ever since she made the allegations... because I thought it was really, really shady that she did it through the new york times and didn't file an actual lawsuit but only a "workplace complaint" ( which was inaccurately reported as a lawsuit). That was extremely telling.
It takes some serious cajones, to turn to the person that you basically railroaded and extorted throughout the entire production. The person that you stole the movie from. The person you made fun of in deadpool. The person you relinquished to the basement and went to the premiere that THEY paid for on THEIR dime and wouldn't let them come.... It takes some serious balls to then turn around and tell them that they need to take the blame for your mishaps 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
She really is Amber Heard.
This really needs to be talked about more!
Team Justin
This! And think, if the allegations she claims are true, she was ok with being silent and letting a sexual harasser keep working in Hollywood to potentially hurt other women. All that needed to happen for her to hush was for him to get her what she wanted out of this movie and she would remain hush.🤯
No wonder she was all cheers for woody Allen and Harvey. But again back to my point, she was willing to remain silent had she gotten her way and let a perv and sexual harasser keep working in the industry basically is what I don’t think many see
nothing short of PURE EVIL.
She is talking about how Ryan and Taylor loved what she did when she wrote that roof top scene only to go infront of cameras and then says to the world that Ryan wrote it??? Like wtf?
... seriously. There is yet another lie no one is talking about.
very good point, why on earth did it go down like that? for every lie that actually is revealed, she will seem less trustworthy
Ryan Reynolds is a SCAB.
That part is absolutely wild. To reveal that info in that way?!
This!!!! Great observation
@@ambypatchett479 I was also wondering why nobody is talking about this
I was very upset when I heard your part 1 and seeing all of your support thrown on BL without letting JB defend himself. Thank you for walking that back. It’s clear that BL has manipulated and gotten away with her bad behavior for years and I’m glad you’re seeing things without the MeToo glasses on. She really damages the ability for women with real harassment and abuse incidents to get justice!
If just did not have proof these two would be on BL team.
these podcasters have an ability Blake Lively is entirely void of.... Self-reflection, and an ability to change one's mind in light of the revelation of new information that can challenge beliefs.
@@ViolAM3 nah they're afraid to be called out and come out as liars...
She Is a bully, bad woman
Same! Glad to see you are now seeing this differently.
As a creative who works on large/long projects, I feel SO bad for the costumers, editors, and anyone else whose work was tossed out because of BL. It’s one of the most frustrating things that can happen, to pour your heart and soul into something for months or years and have it thrown in the trash because someone up the chain gets bored or pitches a fit. UGH.
I would love to see what was originally chosen by the professionals.
Sexual Harrassment is serious and I appreciate it when women objectively look at both sides, consider all available evidence and form an opinion free of gender bias. Well done ladies.
Many men are suffer SH too. And to more I hear the more I think she was the perpetrator. So proud of all the beautiful ladies standing up for Justin. It really has given me faith in people. ♥️
Sadly that is the exact opposite of what they did on their part one video.
the whole point of blake lively's accusation is - she wants Justin to be taken off future project of this franchise ( since Justin bought the rights to Colleen's work) -- using the morality clause. She wants it for her own.... So, to drag some one's career and reputation to feed her own ego and ambition ? Psycopathic, ruthless, selfish, no moral . no integrity, false inflated sense of self-importance. She should never come back. (but ryan is very powerful). Both BL and RR are just bullies. Real monsters. BL is a Talentless piece of work
That is my suspicion too. Especially since RR apparently tried to buy the rights to the sequel from Baldoni, but Baldoni refused. So this is their plan B?
B for Bad. I feel this was their calculated action plan and it is backfiring. @@Norpan378
Exactly my take on this!
Exactly!!! They were hoping to starve him out with expensive litigation. They forgot two things. Number one he has a wealthy backer. Number two the movie he just made almost $300 million of which he got a fair amount of because he was the producer the director and partially owned the studio behind it. He got plenty of money to fight them and plenty of reason to.
Also, all over a property that isn’t that good from what I am gathering from the people who frequently read Colleen Hoover.
It really upset me before he filed his suit reading her obgyn part of the claim about the actor. The person who played the OBGYN has a masters in acting from UCLA and has acting credits. Just because he introduced him as “my good friend” didn’t make it unprofessional, it’s possible he introduces everyone that way
He literally address Gina Rodriguez as his good friend basically family after years of working together not "hey this is my co star" and most people he works with are his friends people he's known for years she is insane.
I think because Ryan Reynolds has so much power over Sony because Deadpool is a huge franchise that he used that power to support Blake Lively to exert the power of a power couple onto the set!
Yes exactly!
Yes exactly!
Ya Ryan really did wrong here and got involved when he shouldn’t have. I don’t think their relationship will last after seeing what Blake is really like as a person. She’s totally a narcissist. I think it just happens to really pretty ppl.. they eventually think they are better than everyone else.
RR has a Clue series and a potential franchise in Animal Friends. They've kicked distribution over to WB for but the latter, and I think he's no longer starring in the series but producing it because of the bad PR but he has a preexisting relationship with Sony that I assume Sony felt was more in need of protection.
Now there are rumours of a Deadpool and Spider-Man movie - which would be Sony and Marvel Studios.
RR wasted all his equity.
I don’t see how you never realized that Taylor is cut from the same kind of cloth as the kind of person that Blake lively is
You don't become a billionaire by being the nicest person in the world🤷🏽♀️
@@SaraofHades exactly
Right?
Absolutely birds with feathers flock together I never liked them both watched anything they are in
@@jasminej6281 yeah both of them are always oozing of narcissistic vibes for sure
I am glad you mentioned the T Swift crisis because I have found my devotion to her waning in the midst of the brat Blake Lively's treatment of Justin Baldoni and many others in this movie. If this is Taylor's best friend, then I question who Taylor really is.
Same same.
I have been super supportive of my young daughter's love for Taylor Swift but amidst this controversy, I've been questioning whether Swift is a good role model. Steering my daughter's attention to Billie Eilish and other artists.
Same here, very disappointed in Taylor, jumping into this with both feet not knowing the truth
Taylor Is a fake person
@@HeartbreakingHistoryeveryone else will too.
Love the podcast, I’m so glad you both read all the texts bc people keep referencing the texts with out reading them out loud. So much has happened since this aired we need a part 3
This series should have millions of views. Not only mind-blowing, but so well-done. Not a single exaggeration or misinterpretation & all commentary struck a perfect tone.
Only part two though, because part one was painfully presumptuous and misinformed.
I am so proud of you ladies for being open to be wrong about your initial perception of what when on. It requires lots of humility and integrity. Thank you for being objective and not doubling down and seeing the injustice of it all. You have gained a follower and my respect.
Thanks from me too. Had also lost faith in you both. I am glad this popped up in my feed.
People make mistakes, and I agree that’s it’s a good quality that they can admit they made one. I hope they actually learned a lesson from it though, and that they think twice before they make ignorant comments based on unfounded allegations in the future.
Loved the deep dive. I'd also like to add a lot of people blaming him for letting her get her way aren't realizing the power play. Victim blaming isn't cool regardless of the gender. Just because he's a man doesn't mean he should be blamed for things he should have done while under the influence of someone more powerful than him with so much at stake.
I found myself getting very frustrated with Justin as I read through the lawsuit, it was maddening to see him submit again and again. But after I sat with it, I realized that I was quick to judge because I see a lot of myself in Justin's behavior. I think a lot of us do! So many of us have been on the receiving end of a manipulative bully at some point in our lives, and it's really really difficult to hold your own in those situations. I wasn't mad at Justin, I was annoyed at being reminded of all the times I did the same thing he did.
@@winterseagull I totally get what you mean. Also, hindsight being 20/20 we realize it after but when it's happening? It's very difficult to see the manipulation for what it is. I'm just glad for Justin and his team's sake that they had the foresight to keep receipts.
@booklover8872 totally. And it's SO EASY to look back and feel like an idiot for not doing x or saying y. I think it's such a normal thing to be self-critical about, and it's hard to not project that. Like really hard lol
I'm sure, as a rational man, he would think THIS should satisfy her. And it never did. She kept going. And, from what I'm gathering, she was threatening Sony to refuse to finish the movie, refuse to promote the movie, etc. SO JB might have had Sony telling him "just give it to her"
So glad you commented this. I think it’s really hard for people to remove their gender lens when assessing this. Of course, JB was walking a fine line, trying to appease the controlling, powerful people (BL, RR, Sony…) while making a film. It’s always a struggle for any Director or Producer to juggle everyone in filmmaking! I think the only reason this particular scenario has made it out of the industry and fully laid bare in the publicis because BL had connections to “titans” and “dragons” and was overtly including those in the film.
She thinks she is a titan/dragon herself and should be allowed to do what RR and TS do to make their art but she doesn’t realise that they are deeply talented, intelligent, and good public speakers. I believe, if BL was as talented as her hubby and BF that the suggestions she wanted for the film would have been loved and embraced by the film production and it would have been a smoother process. The problem was, her ideas are not all as amazing as she believes. And we don’t know that RR and TS really love her ideas either! They might be encouraging her and giving her constructive criticisms that she ignores because she’s too dense to understand - like in the bar dance scene when JB is trying to direct her not to talk in a slow-motion scene (because it looks demented in slow-mo!).
Sorry, I’m just so annoyed 😂
I hope when Justin wins this case, he takes the money to re-shoot the movie with an actress who is more down to earth and call the movie “It Ends With Us (Justin’s Version)”
I wonder if Leighton Meester would be available?
That would be amazing!
Wouldn't that be cool? At the very least, I hope we get to see the director's cut!
Love this!
I'm sorry guys i think you're giving Taylor Swift too much credit. Portraying yourself as relatable doesn't mean you are, lets be honest she never was. Everytime cases like this appear I keep hoping die hard fans of any celeb can open their eyes and realize how out of touch these people are... Their egos are so high and are consistently fed every day
it was obvious that ts is very out of touch with reality when she announced an album last year at the grammys and ignored celine dion at the stage
Yuuuuup. I've read people commenting how they are starting to reconsider her and starting to wonder if she is a good person. I'm sorry, but rarely any of them are good people in general. There is too much ego, money, pressure and self glory in what they do and chose as a career for them to truly remain humble, grounded, truly grateful and aware. Im not saying they don't struggle and suffer cause they do, they are human...just not exceptional ones. And talking specifically about Taylor Swift a lot of her fandom is biased and living in la la land...as most fandoms to be fair. They literally support her WRONGS to a point where she is almost untouchable no matter what she does, which should not be so because everyone should be held accountable, especially people in power.
me too. people just need to stop.
This Blake saga is straight from Taylor's playbook. Remember when Kanye exposed Taylor with his recorded phone call?
And every time she has a new BFF, some scandal breaks out involving said BFF but Taylor just bounces and her hands are magically clean. 35 years and acting like a mean cliquey 12 yr old.
I've also noticed Taylor swift also gloms on to any and every rising star to stay relevant. Her fans think she is being magnanimous and bestowing them with the gift of her presence. I think it's a case of keep your enemies close. She can't let anyone overshadow her.
I don't understand how her fans justify her making a career out of basically playing a victim and singing about all her ex boyfriends with enough details for people to identify them, putting their personal moments out there for public consumption and commercializing every intimate relationship so her mindless mob can harass and attack them when any men doing that would rightly be called a toxic piece of shiii
Anyone who walks into a football game like it's a fashion show and consistently throws smiles like she's about to get her picture taken....cannot be living in the real world. TS is constantly acting for the camera. It's so unnatural.
I read both BL and JB’s lawsuits in total. It is absolutely mind blowing how much she has lied and manipulated in her attempts to ruin this man. From making false allegations, to stripping him of the ability to direct and produce his own film (that his company purchased the rights to), to manipulating all of the other actors to turn against him, to threatening not to promote the movie if she didn’t get her demands met to take over the film, to insisting that he sign a document “agreeing” to her demands that were already in place, to refusing to meet with the intimacy coordinator, to stripping him of his directors cut, to subjecting him to verbal abuse from her husband, and subjecting him to being the subject of a parody mocking him, to getting him released from his own agent, to having his name and likeness stripped from any promotions of the movie, to causing the budget to increase because of her demands, and then throwing him and his family and friends in the basement for the premiere of his own film and then accuse him of body shaming and sexually harassing you? All because of lies? All because she couldn’t separate herself from the character she was hired to portray? How do you make a movie about falling in love if she refused to be touched, and didn’t want to do any scenes involving simulated sex? I saw the movie and thought it was a little shallow, it seemed like it should have had more scenes showing the intimacy of the couple, not just “fade to black” cuts??? Absolutely unbelievable. The author, Sony, the New York Times and Taylor Swift got on the wrong side of this one. I hope he gets everything they both have. He bent over backwards to try to accommodate her while acting professional and just trying to get the film made to bring awareness to DV. She is done and so is her husband. Who will ever want to hire either of them again? WHO will ever want to watch anthing that either one of them ever does again? She needs to settle this quick because she is gonna go down hard!!!!!!
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I totally agree. Thought the movie was pretty tame with the sexual encounters.
I’m having the same crisis with Ryan Reynolds. To be married or the best friend of someone that acts like this has to reflect on their own character right?
The RR "joke" as Nicepool sets a new low in being a Karen. RR got lucky in life and perhaps needs a humbling.
Yes I agree. I feel differently about Ryan now for sure and Taylor.
They got married in a plantation with history of slavery, let's start with that...they are the same.
Correct. People are coming forward telling stories about Ryan being horrible as well.
If Blake wins this it will be a total travesty … but I don’t see any man wanting to work with her again even if she did.
20:38 I know it is hard to swallow, but Taylor is not an ethical person herself. She throws money at charities but she is kind of a whitewashed feminist. Not to mention that she abuses her para-social relationships with her fans to have them buy item after item after ticket after album to make her extreme wealth. It isn’t surprising that they have been friends for so long. Their morals and values align greatly with their ultimate goal to be an elitist. I say this as a fan of Swift’s music. My kids are also fans. We listen to her music but we do not buy any merchandise or go to her concerts. We have regular conversations about how she isn’t our friend and we don’t know anything about her. I don’t think any person of celebrity, influence, or power should ever have that much of our emotional investment because they never have our best interest at heart, no matter how endearing their facade is.
Well said. 👏👏
Does anyone really think Blake is smart enough to so masterfully steal this movie from Justin at every turn… or was Ryan (with experience in doing this) calling all the shots and she was just following his direction? Blake and Ryan are equally guilty in trying to ruin Baldoni and I hope they lose this lawsuit.
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I don’t think she’s smart, I think she has star power (whether that’s her or her husband) - which is what matters in Hollywood unfortunately.
Lots of big names aren’t Machiavellian, they’re just powerful because they know the success of the movie rides on them. She refused to cooperate with wardrobe dept, refused to do promotion, rejected the script, the editing - cause huge delays on these issues and you threaten to ruin a project which was years in the making.
What are the chances that Ryan was over her shoulder watching those dailies and asking her why she's so flirty with Justin and she's now doing histrionic levels of damage control?
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He would be so gaslit and manipulated by her victim story.
Eh I feel like this pushes too much of the blame off her. Let’s treat her like we would if she wasn’t a white woman. Society loves to infantilize them in particular. People don’t give black woman that much.
Pretty high
Extremely high
I've listened to many podcast and so far I would say that yours is soooooo mucccccc BETTER!!!! Everything is clear! Love it!
Dont blame yourselves too much for believing her at the beginning. I think it is GREAT that you are seeing the truth right now! 👏👏👏👏
I don't blame myself because I never believed her 😂
@BettherBeachwear neither did I 😂
Me too!!
Sony needs to be held to account here too. They really made it easy for BL to get away with her horrible power hungry behavioiur.
I do hope a Sony lawsuit will be next.
What I also would like to know is: Why has WGA not started an investigation yet into RR apparently writing scenes (with BL) during the writer strike? Wasn't that a violation of the WGA? Any other actor would've been penalized... I feel WGA is now complicit in this as well... (Edited the writers bond name)
I dont think no one really wants that investigated because it can get everyone in trouble if Ryan was doing rewrites but also the people who accepted the writings as well? I would assume anyway
@@dannygentry6988well it can also be argued that they only found out he wrote it after the after the fact. They didn’t know he was involved while the strike was ongoing. Blake is just an airhead she is so deep in La La Land that she doesnt seem to think before she speaks
@@dannygentry6988 SAG-AFTRA has been awfully quiet in all this. There wasn't a union rep for alleged harassment nor an investigation of Ryan's ghostwriting. Sum'n is off here.
I don't think the rewrite happened JUST before the strike
It would be WGA, not SAG-AFTRA. WGA is the writer’s guild.
Blake is not a A-list actress. OMG how many lies are there? Blake lying about essentially everything.
She is an a-list celebrity. Maybe she thinks that's the same.
@ she is not a a-list celebrity. Does she has an Oscar or golden globe? She is not that good actor. She put her focus on having4 kids and maybe she should just focus on her family right now.
😂😂😂 She's not at all.@@charisma-hornum-fries
I refuse to watch any of her movies
@@debib.8397same. I stopped years ago. I couldn't even finish A Simple Favor because her acting was so bad.
Reality is Blake is trying to pull a Taylor swift she’s trying a page of Taylor’s book, that’s how Taylor treated her exes n probably everything Blake is doing based on Taylor’s advice. I’m a fan of Taylor Swift but I can’t unsee this anymore. I mean Ryan Reynold mocking Justin in the movie the way he did is exactly what Taylor does in her songs n video clips with her exes 😢
Very well put ❤
100% spot on right down to the mass unfollowing to create a narrative. Only thing is Taylor is smart about how she moves and Blake tried to copy her and failed miserably
Taylor and Blake are bullies
Where's Taylors' public support of her BFF....nowhere to be seen!!
TOTALLY
It says a lot about Taylor Swift that Blake is her best friend…
Birds of the same feather ……..
Yes yes
Ikr
First time watcher and I think you both did a great job covering this case. I’ll be tuning in more often.
Taylor Swift is a bully too just like BL and RR. She just plays victim better. Like girl pick better partners, maybe your the problem not all these guys that are a revolving door for your songs.
remember she wrote a whole ass song about her 2 week "relationship" with Jake Gyllenhal, and allowed her fanbase to brutally attack him online for YEARS. She is a bully
when you said "all of this information is causing me to have a personal faith crisis with taylor swift" " I FELT THAT
Consider this: Blake manipulated Taylor all along
People waking up to TS via BL is my favorite thing about this debacle.😂
I am starting to wonder if Blake had the intention of setting these scenarios up from the beginning as part of her takeover. Everything seems so maniacal.
Maybe a conspiracy theory (beware) but at the time of the movie's released, RR posted an IG of nicepool with comment referencing low bone density and then during Betty booze, there is this ryle you wait,
I hate bullies so much
Already saw others breakdown of this but really enjoyed the way you did it and your common sense that those RUclips lawyers are missing. Subscribed! 🌟
When your employee thinks she is the owner of the shop.
your closing points sums this up perfectly she lacks self awareness
Just so you guys know that 400 million is a "statement" and not at all, what Justin would be expecting. Just like johnny depp sued Amber Heard for 50 million. He knows full well that she's not worth 50 million, and it is the jury that decides the amount anyway. The 400 million is a strong statement, and it's meant to tell both Blake and Ryan and the world that they are dead serious
Not sure I agree in this case. She lied and destroyed his entire career and personal life, as the lawyers state. That mean sshe’s robbed him of all future income as an actor, director, producer and has damaged the name of his production company. Not to mention his suffering and stress. All of those losses very well could total $400 million (or more). I could see a jury awarding him even more when they see how Blake lied. Could wipe out Blake’s entire fortune and she won’t be employable after this either.. It’s crazy she did all this to herself just because of her ego
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I 100% agree with you about what she did. She's a terrible human being. But if johnny depp can't get 400 million ( and he was worth much more at one point) then I don't see justin getting it. However justin does have co plaintiffs so that affects things and makes it go higher.
However, I don't think a jury is going to assume that justin alone lost 400 million in future earnings. I simply do not.
But that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a lot of money.
I also disagree that his career is ruined. I think it looked that way for about a week... before he filed his lawsuits. But the public is backing him so much right now, and we are the ones who support people. Hollywood is only a conduit to do that, but we are the ones who actually pay money. And I think he's got heavy support right now and that will get noticed, and he will have opportunities for sure
I think the person who looks terrible right now is Blake...with ryan right behind her. I think this is career ending for blake to be honest with you. Nobody wants to support her now.
These are just my opinions Though I completely agree with you about what she tried to do and the fact that she didn't care about destroying a man's life. 100% agree. She's a POS. But I think the fact that the public is rallying around justin is a really good sign, and he's gonna be okay because we are going to support him. Good people deserve good things. So I for will get behind any future projects he has.
On a side note I think Wayfarer is actually producing a scarlett johansson movie right now. How funny is that? 😂
And totally on another side note, I was just thinking about something funny. I heard in september that ryan did try to buy the sequel from justin and justin refused ( so awesome).
But then I was thinking about how everybody was upset, because the sequel will never be made because of this whole dispute.
But then I started thinking, what if justin goes ahead and makes it anyway without blake? We would all support it, and it would be such a slap in the face to her that she got replaced 😂😂😂
He could even use young Lily to replace her.😂 And it wouldn't even matter to us, because we would all just go support it, and it would probably be a much better movie anyway.
But really he could actually go ahead and make that sequel, and we would go support him, because we've always wanted to see justin's version of these anyway. And we certainly don't wanna see blake as lily.So he could pick whoever he thinks is a good lily, and he could actually make a good sequel. I for one, hope he does it and not seeing Blake would be the cherry on top and that would eat her up inside too, which is just glorious 😂
I believe the reason for 400 million is because the chances of a sequel is almost 0 now bc of all the bad publicity. I believe the film grossed 350 million. So basically they’re losing the chance of making money from a second movie.
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Though I think if we support him making it, he will do spectacularly. It won't be the same and it doesn't have to be, but it would be great if we all rallied behind him with blake lively out of it and shot it out of the park and did even better than this one.
The bonus would be that she is weeping watching the movie move on without her...and with a new lily, that's better than her. Ryan did try to buy the movie from Justin after all.
As far as the price tag on the civil suit? That's just a statement. It's telling them that they are deadly serious. They are not actually expecting 400 mil and the likelihood of getting it is slim to none. But it makes a very bold statement, and that is what his attorney is doing
The first film made 300M+ . Now there's no way they will be able to make the sequel. There's also legal fees . They are probably loosing out on business right now . I think that's what this is about.
Blake Lively thought this was going to be her Oscar nomination.
Comparible to a Lifetime show I suppose. This is truly a disgrace to an actor who was never a good actor. Blake always seemed nervous and played the same character.Dull and biting her lip🙄 .@@elisedemerveilles3065
@@elisedemerveilles3065 lol looking at the ob-gyn actor's credentials, he probably has more acting chops than she could ever have
Both don't are good actor, Oscar 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She will never get herself one of those. She is not a strong enough actor. Maybe if she were cast as herself in a movie about this debacle...
She thought this was her eras tour or that she was keeping up with Anna Kendrick and scarjo .. especially since she expected to get the sequel and continue her self obsessed rampage
I’m a writer. She wants to literally wear all the Hats. 🎩 🧢🪖⛑️👒 master of none. The WGA should be notified.
Love Taylor, but she does take down her ex's in her music. It's essentially bullying, as Ryan Reynold's did with Justin Baldoni in his movie.
Genius comment
Exactly. Also, her songs tell her story from her point of view. I don’t think we can honestly believe that she’s always the good person who just happens to fall for crappy men.
Kinda not fair. Lots of songs and genres do this. It happens all the time and it's not bullying. Song writers, rapers, poets, express THEIR experiences. Not someone else's story, which it was RR did with Nicepool. What RR did is way worse, he wasn't in a relationship with JB. And it's a targeted repeated pattern with malicious intent. So the comparison is not fair.
@@LemonBaked. Most songwriters do not give so many personal details and about so many different people. While also making it obvious who those people are. And not all of their songs are so obvious about who those people are because their lyrics aren't so specific in the details. And they also don't usually make the other person be the villain in 99% of their songs.
I think Ryan has a LOT to do with all of Blake's demans during production..
Yes. I think Ryan took one look at the first of the daily’s and saw that his wife (who can’t act) genuinely wanted Justin Baldoni and he accused her immediately and she pulled the ‘Oh, just the opposite! He is gross and inappropriate!’ And then Ryan continued to affirm and encourage that narrative in her fragile little narcissistic mind.
Scarlett Johanson did say how controlling Reynolds was.
Blake still gets zero pass.. she should have stood up to him if it's a jealousy, control issue.
Blake's life style has gone to her head and blurred the lines of power and integrity. She has none.
I agree. I don’t think he’s innocent like some people believe.
Yeah. I saw the takes and she was literally melting... She's not a good enough actress to pull that off while on character. That was the real Blake all over Justin. Then he yelled cut and you could see that was the real him after cut and telling her they have more than enough reel. She was into him. I am a woman, I know that look. 😂
The biggest issue that nobody seems to talk about is the precedent she’s setting where filming simple romantic scenes in movies can potentially lead to a SA case. This could mean not just intimacy coordinators but entire legal teams will need to be present on sets in the future. I mean her career is probably over. Nobody will want to risk any serious allegations just because she doesn’t get her way. But what’s worrying is that it could put the whole film industry in a tough position. Making a movie is already expensive and difficult. But this precedent will make it even more complicated and “risky” from a legal perspective. 1:28:34
I said this to my husband too.. if she wins, what precedent does that set?
Blake is a liability for producers because they will scared that she will threaten to leave the movie or that she will take everything as SH. Because you know, she is so irresponsible for every man
For some reason my take on this is that Blake developed a serious crush on Justin that she couldn’t handle (or wasn’t reciprocated) and her ego went completely off the rails, encouraged by the movie crew and cast walking on egg shells around her because she was the lead, protected by Sony and an A + list celebrity.
I agree. She's been known to fall for her co-stars and has said she just plays herself. I also feel like she has some sort of social anxiety issue bc she's a little unhinged in her interviews. But I do think he's not an angel. I read that his current lawyer actually sued him a couple of years ago on behalf of someone that accused him of stealing their script.
Agreed! She was pissed bc she fell for him & he rejected her.
. Then she went on the warpath to destroy him and be as petty as possible!! IMHO
I agree .and than I think Jealous husband picked up on it...
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She just delivered her 4th baby with Ryan, weeks before filming started. Be serious for a sec
39:17 Sony was frantic because Ryan was writing the script when there was a strike.
You know, the strike that aims to provide better funding and job security for writers... and here's a big actor taking away their jobs without prior notice.
This is the best reading and concise analysis of his lawsuit. subscribed ✅️
She’s had wardrobe drama before on gossip girl set with Leighton. She was mad her clothing cost was less.
She’s just such a spoiled person.
Amanda Seyfried, Lily Colins, Brie Larson, Sydney Sweeney, Anna Kendrick….So many better options to play Lily Bloom.. so sad it came to this.
Blake Lively thought she was in Taylor Swifts league and was rudely awakened by the back lash.
*20:21* ...watching you two *possibly* conceive the notion that TS may not actually be the nice girl was sad but relatable. Not a TS fan, but I am a Hugh Jackman fan, and I'm questioning his character 😂 His random involvement with the promo for It Ends with Us and participating in scenes with "Nicepool". Insane to see grown adults use so many innuendos to mock Baldoni in a highly anticipated, and yet completely *separate* film. If that's not the definition of petty, I don't know what is.
I agree. I have also started to see Hugh Jackman in a different light, first with the divorce and now with that ”in-your-face” bromance with Ryan Reynolds.
I agree. I’m a huge Hugh Jackman fan as I watched a lot of his movies growing up. This makes me question him as well.
Jackman is friends with Kushner and Ivanka Trump. He is sus.
It’s crazy that this is all happening *just* because of Blake’s enormous ego. She wanted everything her way and created this entire storm. It’s actually insane. Never in the history of Hollywood has this ever happened like this.. so she’s literally the most egotistical actress there has ever been, if you think about it. Basically allllll other actors in the past have been able to cooperate somewhat and then move on after the project. This is crazy.
Yeah she made history.
Sisters, we are going to need a part 3!!
And the shoes she chooses to wear during dancing in the bar scene, were HIGH HEELS sparkling rhinestone high heels. With jeans. Like girl, your character is a humble flower shop owner who just graduated college. She's not wearing those heels to a casual sports bar! 😂
The heels are literally Louboutins. She was not thinking about the character at all 😂
@Hexa1123 geeezz I had no idea. Oh but they were red bottoms huh so I should've known. Girl how you not gonna read the book?! What movie has she even been in, in the last 10 yeadz??
@Hexa1123 @Hexa1123 geeezz I had no idea. Oh but they were red bottoms huh so I should've known. Girl how you not gonna read the book?! What movie has she even been in, in the last 10 yeadz??
@@lns4life I think she wanted her Carrie Bradshaw moment. This was the wrong movie for that, though!
As someone who's been team Justin since the beginning, I just wanna say thank you for taking the time to hear his side of this.
When her NYT article came out, it was so bizarre to me how, after the IEWU press tour, everyone so quickly believed everything she claimed without full context or witness testimony to support her. Especially bc consistent witness testimony is one of the only ways sa/dv vctms are able to prosecute their absrs. I mean, just look at Harvey Weinstein. Everybody, including Blake, knew what he was doing bc there are countless witnesses. Blake herself has many vctms and witnesses to her abse. And that "believe her first, ask questions never" mentality, is exactly how and why Justin lost everything.
Imho, Bottom line here, Blake held Justin hostage until she got her way. That is called coercion &
EXTORTION.
She is & probably always has been a mean girl monster. I don't think intelligent people will fall for the post- partum
" haze" nonsense. She had too much time to
plot, calculate, scheme, and manipulate taking over this film. Besides which, she has nannies &
servants to take care of any stress she may have felt. This would be just another spin job to excuse her horrendous, malicious behavior. No, this ridiculous
spin tale would NEVER be believed, nor should it.
Imho
Blake is a liar and how sad, because she's doing all this to ruin him just because she wanted control of HIS movie. Blake gives me Meghan Markle vibes
Isabela Ferrer, the actress playing adolescent Lilly Bloom, was actually the right age to play adult Lilly, since at the time of filming she was 23-24 years old. Imagine how easy the entire production of this movie would have been had they went with that version.
Exaccccctly!!!!!!
First time watching this channel - this was a great breakdown and super clear with no BS. Great job
So happy you're here! 💖
Me too!
Me too! Subscribed!
First time for me too and I'll be back!
I'm glad you gals didn't have an ego and actually went through Justin's lawsuit with an unbiased view. There are a few youtubers (cough filmcooper) with more than a million following who jumped on the gun to defend blake so hard (on more than one occasion) and then went radio silent as soon as justin released everything. I also love how articulate you guys are
lmao yeah when his video came out after the NYT's article, I kinda lost respect for him. He seemed pretty arrogant on his high horse.
Yeah I'm disappointed with their defense of Taylor Swift (who has historically shown to be exactly Blake just with better PR and more cunning) but I do admire them for attempting to be objective and changing their stance as more info came out. I never once believed Blake. I have found myself dragged into enough friend groups with Blakes and Taylors as a teenager ( and escaped) to be able to spot these vile evil women a thousand miles away.
I agree with most of what you said except your statement "men are disgusting". 1:04:06 You are adding to the problem by making such non-chalant statements. If a guy said "women are disgusting", we'd be all over that. Thanks!
You are doing exactly what Blake did- purposely leaving out context. They said “men are disgusting for sure that CAN be a thing”
Was Blake Lively competing with Anna Kendrick's directorial debut with Woman of the Hour? This could explain why she couldn't wait to secure her own movie and hijacked Justin Baldoni's with an earlier release before Kendrick's movie release in October 2024.
And Scarlett now has her directorial debut with the film Baldoni's company Wayfarer produced
And the eras tour and scarjo is directing a film with Justin’s company I think- she definitely was trying to keep up with jones by stealing a franchise and making it all about how wonderful she thinks she is
You 2 have done the ABSOLUTELY BEST Breakdown of this sad reality of Lively & Baldoni. (She's a Monster, unfortunately)
Out of hundreds of podcast, you both nailed this vs ALL THE REST.
Thankyou!!!
You both discovered a way of not speaking over each other, maintaining calm fluid monotones, exceptional organization in delivering the story.
You both are journalist comparible to ( or better) the greatest we have had in news media.
Thankyou❤
Agreed they flow so well
@@ErinJeanetteI'm extremely impressed. I have to stop majority podcast 1 minute in. The loud intros, yapping over each other, going off topic. Most end up giving me anxiety. I'm excited I came across them last night. Im hopeful they will move up in celebrity interviews and go to the top with sponsors and the best in all they do. ❤
Yes, they did a fantastic job! Conveyed the real emotions too that her actions would have caused so many people!
You girls are doing such a great job explaining everything. I have heard some of this before but never in a timeline. It’s so thorough. Thank you
Having listened to everything being read, it seems to me Baldoni was beyond compliant, he was gracious, complimentary, mindful yet they (Blake/Ryan) continued to flex 💪 their connections and impose during the entire project. I believe in purpose, and although it’s a terrible experience for Baldoni, he was chosen to expose these truths about these entitled bullies who have likely been getting away with corruption & such awful behavior. I hope justice is served.
The crazy thing about all this is that Justin’s wife played her ultrasound tech in the movie 😂😂😂
She is insufferable. I hope justice is served
I have been so intrigued by this after a month of listening to this it seems as though Ryan got jealous and Blake agreed to pursue the harassment claims. This smoothed over their relationship but then they saw it as an opportunity to exploit the situation. Also Blake was jealous of Scarlett Johansens directorial debut which wayfarer ( Justin’s company) are the producers on. So this sparked the ambitious approach to getting control of the movie using tactics Ryan used for deadpool. It was working however with the back lash they overstepped further with blatant lies with the harassment complaint. So fascinating. That’s my theory.
Omg! When I think this can't get worse... Wayfarer producing Scarlett's movie... omg this is like a soap opera! I can't 😂
OMG - You figured it out - Blake wanted to get up on Scarlet. It’s obvious Blake has always been a bitch, but this level of pushing was too egregious. Blake is so petty and jealous and desperate to compete with Scarlet, it all makes sense now.
@@galaxycmp8635 Scarlett's directorial debut!
With her lies, she attempted to ruin Baldoni's life and family and production company, and Scarlett's directorial debut by association.
I agree. I wonder if, during the writers strike, Blake talked about Justin to Ryan just a little too much, and he got jealous.
I think this is more about Blake and her insecurities and her intimacy issues. The released footage clearly shows she was nervous, and she just always seems socially awkward. He was just trying to make her feel at ease with the out of character side chat, while they’re dancing. The obsessive need for control, and insecurity, usually goes hand in hand.
I can’t believe how without shame she made these accusations. She pretends to be a feminist when she’s really not. How can u bring up such lies and pretend to be a victim. Because of people like her we as a woman have hard times. Shame on her and her family. I am glad Baldoni has been keeping receipts.
Taylor's not that different from Blake. She just has a better PR team and knows what NOT to do when she's in public and cameras are rolling.
blake is a really great and accurate example of someone who is extremely passive aggressive.
It's funny how Ryan praises "her" roof top script bc it's actually his 😂
New here but love the energy. I felt like I was in the room with you ladies. You both passed the vibe check for me ❤ I hope your channel blows up.
Yes!
What’s kind of funny is that she gave the reporter back in the day so much shit for asking about her wardrobe in the film she was promoting…. And then cut to it ends with us, she needs to have full control of wardrobe as it is very important to her…
This is an excellent break down - thank you
This is by far the best and most detailed breakdown of this I’ve seen! Thank you for the work you put in.
So many others have flipped the script as well, thank goodness. The video coming out with audio said it all. Hopefully every last human sways to the truth on this. They are shameful , B&R are .
Yes, this is the new source I’ll send people to that are new to the drama!
This is probably the best break down and condensed overview of the situation on YT that I have found. Good job ladies ❤very easy to follow and easy to understand.
Good for you for adjusting your opinions and not doubling down. None of this smelled right from the start and it will be very very interesting to see if she gets what she deserves out of it.
As a survivor of a highly manipulative, abusive narcissistic marriage, I just want to add a few personal observations:
1. When you are constantly love-bombed, gaslighted and manipulated, it creates a very very stressful environment. I literally feel triggered when I hear about things she was doing. One constantly walks on eggshells and is always worried about what innocuous thing the abuser might feel insulted by. His texts and his constantly stroking her ego, reminds me so much of how I started interacting with my husband. My communication was pitiful, weak and enabling, when I look back.
2. I totally empathise when finally Justin just raises a white flag and gives up his entire creative vision. After so much stress and gaslighting by all the people around, you just want to take a break and give in to the persistent demand.
3. People like blake are very manipulative. ( it's how they have always operated, so it's easy/natural for them) they turn other people against their victim by all tricks imaginable. They will create situations where if the victim reacts, then without showing the full context, they paint the victim as crazy, mad or abusive. And from the limited facts/story, most bystanders believe.
4. Most importantly, people like her, project exactly what they do on to the victim. So believe it when they say that there was sexual harassment, unprofessionalism, bullying etc on the sets. It's what she did to him.
OMG, I LOVE THIS!!!! Great job, ladies!
It’s ironic they choose a woman who uses the public’s sympathy for abuse victims, to abuse. Of course she does have those dragons. Truly ironic, Khaleesi and her dragons meet their end by a man with a bun.
It's ironic that the story arc of nice pool closely follows what Lively and Reynolds were trying to do and actually accomplished somewhat with Baldoni. Deadpool wanted Nice pools dog at all cost and was glad when he was killed and could take his dog. Lively wanted Baldoni's film at all cost and used her power to ultimately get it. Reynolds properly reflected their intent in Deadpool.
By this time, Baldoni became well aware he was dealing with a real problem, a woman with psychopathic traits.
She took being married to Ryan Reynolds went to her head. She isn't an A lister who does get privileges. I think she over ranked herself. Being married to a A lister isn't valid.
If she could threaten the director with her husband and Taylor, imagine what she did to the crew. I'm dying to see the essay messages she wrote to each one of them to the point that they cut off their relationship with Justin.
you both did a great job in reading through this
As an intellectual property attorney, I truly appreciate the detailed, critical analysis from this episode. I had a very hard time stomaching the first take after the collusion between Blake's team and the New York Times (salacious and convincing as it was at first blush). It just always seemed to defy credulity that an actress with such clout would not simply walk away from a film on which she was being harassed, or at a minimum alert Sony or SAG-AFTR with concrete anecdotal if not documented evidence (especially if she suspected women with less standing were experiencing the same sexual overtures on set). One issue I still have difficulty rationalizing is whether Ryan was actually "duped." From a distance, Colleen and the cast were understandably either legitimately manipulated by lies, incentivized by prospects for the sequel, gobsmacked by Blake's perceived star power, or otherwise pressured into ostracizing Justin. However, as Megyn Kelly and Bryan Freedman aptly point out, it is hard to reconcile a SINCERELY outraged and protective husband trolling his wife's harasser with a character like Nicepool in Deadpool 3. All of the scenes involving Nicepool were filmed at the tail end of production in January of 2024 long after the alleged "fat-shaming" as wells as the "17 point list" not-so-subtle sugessting unlawful behavior by Justin. You don't normalize that behavior by poking fun at the harrasser. Further, Blake would also have engaged in grossly inappropriate innuendo (if the SH allegations are true), by acknowledging "Gordon Reynolds" in the credits of her cut - Ryan's recognized alter-ego who allegedly played Nicepool.
I always thought the claim that she had a crush on him was ridiculous until I thought about one of her statements. Anyone who has been SHd if you want to accuse somebody would you include the statement "I'm not even attracted to you." Like how would this help her case? It's like saying he was trying to stab me, but he had no knife. Plus: He didn't even say that on camera.
My guess is, and maybe it's wild, but I think he said that to reject her when she came on to him and because of her hurt ego she included that statement even though it does nothing for her case.
Yes! I spotted that too! When I watched the film dance footage I noticed that that statement is describing that moment; but Justin says 'cut' not 'I'm not attracted to you' ☮️
I feel he might have made such a statement when she made a list of demands before resuming filming and when she insinuated SH from her demands
@@obywankenobi Yes, very possible. Definitely not on camera and not in the context she claimed.
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And after all of this bullsh*t to still compliment her / have nothing but good things to say during the promo of the movie is absolute class from Justin. King energy sir !! Bravo 👏 One has to be very evolved and truly kind hearted to be this much of the bigger person.
Blake and Ryan really mistook his kindness for weakness. They effed around, ...Now it's find out time !!
Love that Hasan Minhaj still follows Justin Baldoni and said his experience was professional and lovely 🥰
Not anymore
he unfollowed the day after the lawsuit came out.
@ it’s so unfair
This is such an honest analysis. As a daughter of DV survivor and SA/SH survivor myself… thank you!
Your Part Two episode is way better than Part One! New listener here and I enjoyed your deep dive on this drama, very thorough and agree with your takes. I feel so sad for JB, he probably has PTSD from this experience with BL. Glad he is finally standing up for himself.
My last review was pretty harsh, sorry. Thanks for you're review. We can all take a lesson in not judging while everything unfolds. People really just want to give women then benefit of the doubt because in most instances, we usually are a victim of SH and SA.
Don’t be fooled….Taylor Swift is the same mean girl as Blake is…..she just has better PR. I’d bet that every nice, supportive thing she says is only for her image and to gain fans and does not mean any of it!!!
I love the fact that you guys will actually even consider holding Taylor Swift accountable even tho u r huge Swifties. I have never been a “Swifty” but i have always liked her. I have never been to one of her concerts (mostly bcuz i cant justify spending that much on a ticket) but thats me. I just love that you guys are willing to actually pause and think about their friendship and who TS actually is. Just shows me that you guys are genuine and want the TRUTH! Thanks for that!