Brandon Ingram should take a team-friendly extension from New Orleans Pelicans | Daniel Theis signed
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- It doesn't sound like there is a big trade market for Brandon Ingram right now. Jake Madison says that it could be in Ingram's best interest to take a team-friendly extension with the New Orleans Pelicans. Plus, the Pels signed center Daniel Theis, Jake breaks down what he brings to the team. And expect more tanking team, and thus more trades in the future.
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Would love to keep Ingram at around 40mil a year. I know he thinks he deserves the max but the pelicans are so close to competing for a long time with him on board. Worse case let him play it out for one year. I'm hoping winning makes him happy and he stays. The theis signing makes so much sense on so many levels. Shot blocking, shooting, hustle, and movement without the ball. These are things our center should be doing. I've seen Miami roll the ball out with lebron and wade with birdman at center. We don't need a all star center, we just need what theis brings. I rather pay Ingram and roll theis and Messi at center. We have plenty of scoring already we just need our centers to play their roles. This is a very very good pickup so stop worrying about the center position and focus on resigning Ingram to a decent contract. There are not many teams that can roll out four 20ppg starters, we have a great chance to do this. No center available is worth Ingram's value. Unless you are getting a myles turner or markkanen. It's pointless to move Ingram for Jarret Allen or any center that can't shoot three ball. The perfect pelicans center is porzhingis but he is locked up. Again we have an opportunity to have a big four, I rather see that play out then getting a nonsense center like Allen.
This fool Jake talking about 25-30 million!!Like I get YOU personally don’t like the player, but now you’re saying stupid shit because of it.
Agreed...Zion gets injured, BI number 1 option. If he's traded for a center, Zion goes down, the season is lost.
Y’all drinking the Daniel Theis coolAid. He’s a nice very end of the bench guy because he’s a veteran who knows how to play. But he doesn’t hit 3’s well enough or protect the rim well enough to give me hope. and he’s older now.
Sign Omer Yurtseven for the minimum. The Yurt is a big body we can use to replace a lot what Valanciunas brought to the table n
@@GewSpeaks what Kool aid? Again I said we just need a center who hustles, gets rebounds, block a few shots and make some middies if he is open. We got one ball and four 20ppg scorers. No need to worry about the center position right now. You are asking for a center who is unaffordable at the moment. Let the season play out and see if anyone will dump their center after a slow start. Yes we won't have a big center but we also rolling out a team that will run on nitrous with a four headed monster
BI should sign a reasonable two-year deal, to both up his trade value and give him some breathing room to boost his rep back up to where it should be so he gets a big deal after.
$40, for 2 years would be fine or allow BI to play out his contract.
@@shirleydouglass4399 Yeah, I was thinking $40-50/2 years, or $20-25 a year. The shorter contract length means he's not locked in through his prime to a number the thinks he should get more than, but means he's a safer target for teams to trade for (or if no trade comes for the Pels to again see if he can fit). It's a win/win.
😂😂 he's not signing for 25 a season. He makes 36 this year and is a UFA next season. He'll be much more appealing to a team when they can sign him for 40 and not have to give the pelicans anything
Y’all sound stupid that man not taking nothing less than 35 million a year
@@marcust-kq4cv DeMar DeRozen just got $74 million for 3 years and you think somebody is going to pay BI $40 million a year? What he's making now is irrelevant. When the Pelicans signed him to that contract it was with the expectation that he could develop into a top 2 star, and it hasn't happened. The rest of the league is looking at him and saying he is what he is at this point, a mid range scorer who needs the ball in his hands but not a star player. Legitimate 3 and D players are more valuable.
He should have signed that Max extension last year when the Pelican offered it to him
But he was betting on himself to make All-NBA
It's more likely Woj reporting that the Pelicans intention was to resign BI was accurate and all the local podcasters went overboard with the "BI is definitely getting traded" stuff and now it's getting walked back.....
I talked back in march about bringing in Theis during FA, purely for the fact that he is going to be in good game shape coming into training camp off of the Olympics
Worth noting Theis is only 6 ft 8. Besides Missi, the Pels are still under sized in the front court over all.
He’s a Larry lance replacement don’t think to much into we are gonna get our center soon
@@Imhimmforever Spot on!
@@Imhimmforever We already have a Centre in Missi...We are only getting another back up centre in a couple of days or weeks before the season starts. You guys don't watch interviews and if you did you heard why Griffin and NOLA brought Missi. They had been watching him since October last year and knew he is someone they needed forthe role immediately
You’re drunk if you think he won’t get at least 40M annually on the open market
You're drunk if you think he will get anything close to that. He's a lesser DeRozen, and the market for DeRozen as a UFA was 3 years for $74 million.
Should have kept J.V. So who will be our starting center now?
You lose credibility when you say that Ingram should sign for Jeremi Grant/Terry Rozier money.
Omer Yurtseven would be a good signing.
I Would like Pels to have a big body who can give you some post defense to challenge bigger centers and get double doubles.
Trade for bol bol...with that 2ndround pick
Bol shit😂
If he didn't cost anything I wouldn't hate it but the new CBA makes those 2nd round picks way more valuable then in the past
Bro, things change fast in the NBA.
There’s a 0% chance he wouldn’t get 30mil a year in free agency. (Probably 45mil)
The Pels will sign B.I. if he’ll take 40mil instead of 52.
It seems that David Griffin is finding out what Dale Demps came to realize; It's easier to hold on to your starting Center when you're against the cap, than it is to find another starting Center to replace him.
If I'm understanding Jake correctly, and I think I am, there is very little trade market for Brandon Ingram that will bring back a starting caliber center. A trade of BI and his $36mil contract, has to match other contracts close to that amount. Problem is, there are extremely few NBA centers in the $33 - $39 mil range. Only two really, Ayton and Adabayo.
The other problem with Brandon's contract is that it ends this season. Not many teams are paying non-All-stars above that amount. But that's what BI is going to be expecting. Good news is that the Pels have another player in the same dollar range.
While Brandon is currently making $36mil this season, and looking for the highest bidder next season, CJ is making $33mil, and his contract goes DOWN to $30mil the following season.
Portland is a team that is in tank-mode, and it would be great PR to let CJ finish his career back where he started it, and raised his family.
CJ for Ayton, done deal!
Just throwing this out there, but I could make a good case to Locked-On for Jake Madison to receive less money as a Locked-On Pelicans host. Yes he works hard and is one of the best in the Locked-On NBA circuit, but he does a lot of things that don't make me or some of his other fans happy. Yes he still has great skills and always gives 💯, and yes he is a super experienced vet despite his young age, but he just doesn't deliver the way I want him to deliver. But if he takes less money to continue being the host of Locked-On Pelicans, I could be on board with keeping him.
I’m late but I’m here lol everydayer !! Excited to hear we signed DT!!! LETS GO PELS!!
Yeah, it was a solid deal at just 3 million. He's a qualified NBA veteran. Sure, he doesn’t have the physicality like Larry, but his experience will definitely boost our interior depth.
Good move getting Theis! Pels should scoop up Achiuwa (Knicks) at back-up PF as well.
He's not a centre though
A team/player friendly contract is a two-year max. extension, last year player option but guaranteed for a minimum amount, like $1M. Win-win situation.
That way the Pelicans can trade him during the deadline and the team trading for him won't be in a risk of losing Ingram next summer. Plus his next team will have a 1,5 season to evaluate him and simply waive him if they don't like what they see.
On the other hand, Ingram will have the opportunity to prove himself and secure a potential 35% of the cap max. contract, starting at $55M.
Letting BI walk after the year is better than giving him an extension that you have to pay someone to take. If you do, you are gaining the ability to extend and pay Trey.
Daniel Theis is great 🎉
Fans/content creators are constantly bringing up team friendly contracts.
They are just creating content for views and likes....They already knew BI ain't going anywhere because Griffin said so in a press interview, now they are trying to twist to ''TEAM FRIENDLY DEAL'' when the past few weeks all they have been talking about is the Imminent ''BRANDON INGRAM TRADE''.....They like that we click and view their bs
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Jake playing GM is painful. 25-30 mill a year is practically impossible. He’s worth more and wouldn’t sign for that. A one year, 12 mill prove it deal is even worse.
Facts….. but Zion needs to sign A team friendly contract as well. He hasn’t done anything. Top 30 player
Paul Reed to the Pistons. Scratch him off the FA center list. Tick tick tick
So hard to take this guy serious. Arguing 25-30 mil a year for BI just sounds like trolling.
He hates him, typical Zion lover and BI hater
More trades as in more 2 or more 👀
B.I. should take a short term deal as the new TV deal would benefit him more in a few years time. 🏀🇬🇧
See a lot comments that people don't want to lose BI. I get that but yall forget that the issue isn't BI isn't that good the issue is the BI and Z combo doesn't work!
It does work. Just injuries
It would in Brandon Ingram interest to take a team friendly two year deal to improve his stock and hope the market moves in his favor. Right now teams are looking to get younger with players who are willing to play defense and can shoot threes both of which is not willing to do.
We need a starting center still
YVES MISSI was chosen for that role so relax
True, but we don’t have much trade bait to go after anyone. Seems like a lot of teams don't want to take a risk on BI. So it’s on David to lock in BI with a reasonable extension, otherwise, we’re not gonna get what we need.
22:04 I think we should call it "Capture the Flagg"
Thanks
Good news for signing Trey extension at a reasonable price
As a last resort, DeAndre Ayton may not be so bad. For a year of two.
Theis is nice, but we need a starting C, we're no better position than last season at C....🏀🇬🇧
If boston can pay 2 why cant pelicans
How about:
Crash for Cooper. Or
Flunk for Flagg
Why would he take a discount after all the bs zion fans have given him? He will secure the bag for himself and not for others. He scored 21 ppg on stil 5 rpg and 5 apg with only handful of players in the nba even avg like that. Not even zion avg that. And zion is only 2 ppg ahead of bi. And the nerve for pelican fans to call him a role player but wants a star player in return. Pathetic. Bi deserves to get his money. It was only last year where he had a “down” year but the years prior to thaat were great stats. And kept carrying the team where zion was nowhere to be found due to injury.
Bro it’s the way he plays, he looks for 2s and is slow and methodical, it ruins other guys rhythm and there’s a reason when trey Murphy starts next to Zion in his place the pelicans have much more success
A discount will only benefit the Pelicans, not BI. Sacramento want BI, but the Pelicans would not trade him because they needed a center. Bi should not settle. Teams would see $20, to $25, would be all that they would offer BI later. Or the Pelicans could resign BI ti a lower amount, then trade BI.
@@danelk7172 and Zion can't even shoot a midrange get off his nuts Zion is the worst spacer on the team
@@danelk7172You mean like when the team went from 4th to 7th when BI went out
how you feel abt BI and how the league feels abt BI is totally different. The league does not feel he’s a max player. Taking $40-$45 million vs potentially getting squeezed to a 1-2 yr deal at $25 million is a risk. We’ve seen guys think they can get more in free agency and find themselves left out after turning down good extensions. See Dennis Schroeder, Caleb Martin, Demar Derozen, etc. NBA now vs past is that teams only paying max to 2 guys and right now that’s TMIII.
Hi Jake
Flounder for Flagg
RIM PROTECTION!
This is so sad😟 I'm sure BI is tired of hearing this...and everybody is tired of talking about this 🥴
I know it ended up with all that drama, but he and the Pelicans still gotta handle it.
Its only the IG and RUclips content creators that are making this up for clicks and likes buddy. Griffin already said 2 weeks ago in a press conference BI isn't going anywhere so...
Right it’s the media same Bull last year with Zion for scoot smh
Brandon Ingram is about become another Demarcus Cousin whom ended up signing for less for another team.
Every dayer
Every dayer!! 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
#Lagg4Flagg
brandon wait til next yr when cap goes up...play yr out get all your money
Capture the flag
Sag for Flagg
That's move doesn't do anything for the pels straight do do move
David needs to convince BI to lower his quote and find a practical deal. Otherwise, BI's got no trading value in the market-no one wants to take that hot potato!
The teams just don't want to gamble on BI leaving at the end of his contract
1. Griffin is asking for too much.
2. Not every team that's interested in Ingram has a spare center to give to the Pelicans so they need to find a 3rd team. Generally, 3-team trades are difficult to materialize.
3. The new CBA has made trading hard. Teams that are above the 1st apron can't aggregate contracts to match a players contract. They need to match 1-on-1 (a player for a player) and there aren't a lot of teams that have a $36M. contract to trade.
Every 🏀 dayer 🇵🇱
The warriors didn't cry when it was time to move klay and move on. If the pelicans want to be champions get rid of Ingram and turn the page! There are plenty of mediocre players they can get they have enough talent. Get some heart!
Flop for Flag
Bi 3 for 100
He isn't taking a pay cut from his 36 million salary... A team friendly deal would be 2 years at 38 to 44 million a year. It's a raise so he saves face but isn't a max of 52...
@@DavidMobley-lv4hc This dude in the show is asking him to take 25-30mil deal. If Pelicans front office really trying to offer that to him, that's straight up insulting.
@@ocyik88 no one should take Jake serious honestly...
@@DavidMobley-lv4hc I think he will take a pay cut from $36 million if he intends to keep playing in the NBA after this season. He's caught in no man's land between max contract star players and role players. It's obvious from the lack of interest by teams like the Kings, Hawks and Cleveland that all had apparent holes for a scoring small forward that nobody views him as anything close to a max contract player. He would be more valuable if he was better shooting 3's and playing off the ball. I think he's a lesser but younger DeMar DeRozen, and DeRozen just got 3 years for $74 million. If I was the Pelicans I'd let Ingram play out his contract before I'd extend him at $35-$40 million a year. I think he's an even worse fit for the Pelicans after they added Murray to be the primary ball handler. I'd start Murphy and bring Ingram off the bench if the Pels can't find a deal for him.
@@Don-md6wn It's not that there isn't interest for Ingram, it's the fact that the new CBA has made trading difficult, especially for teams that are above or close to the 1st apron. Ingram would had been traded by now, under the old CBA rules.
For exampe, under the old CBA, the Heat could have traded Herro for Ingram, straight up. Now, they need to get below the 1st apron which means they need to find a team to dump Rozier's contract. Of course the 3rd team would want assets, plus the assets to get Ingram, plus the fact that there aren't many teams to absorb Rozier's $25M. and that's why it's nearly impossible to get the trade done.
like how can this guy say we should extend Brandon ingram, at this point i cant watch this guy anymore, we don't have a starting center with no money to sign one, Brandon has to go for a center but the pelicans value Brandon more than he's worth and that's why a trade hasn't happened
Which center? Everyone keeps saying this but can't give a name. Allen from Cleveland is off the table. If we trade Ingram for any old starting caliber center then what was the point of letting Jonas leave?
Pelicans never said they were trying to trade him they said they would love Brandon too be here so stop 8:39 listen to the scenarios, but that’s all it is pelicans haven’t said shit
@@marcust-kq4cvIf they seriously want Allen, they should make an offer that the Cav cannot reject. For example, BI+3 first round pick for Allen and LeVert. In this case, the Pel get their center and the Cav won't lose even if BI gone after one season.
@@ocyik88 there is no such thing as a unrejectable trade. The Cavs just made the semis and may believe that their core 4 is championship quality, especially since 2 of them haven't reached their prime and the other 2 are in the beginnings of theirs. The Pels interest in Allen is well known. We don't know what has been offered
@@ocyik88 Obviously nobody in the NBA thinks BI is a max contract player, and it appears nobody wants Ingram for one season at $36 million because he doesn't space the floor and needs the ball in his hands. He's a lesser, younger, and less durable DeMar DeRozen, and DeRozen just got $74 million for 3 years as a UFA. A "team friendly" deal for the Pelicans shouldn't be more than that.
Every dayer comment
BS…
No one is lining up to give him a contract because Brandon has only average 57 games each season, he plays no defense, and he expects a max contract. Why would anyone give him what he wants when he's NOT reliable.....at all? Why?
He also needs the ball in his hands and has a mid range heavy offensive game, which doesn't fit with most teams that have their #1 wing or guard as the primary ball handler. He doesn't spread the floor which is what most teams are looking for.
Daniel theis brings you a player who's total garbage. Has done nothing in 10 years.probably worst starting center in all of the nba.i hate the acquisition
Better than zellar atleast won a title jake
Need to fire agent ... bucking him up ..money ain't there lm ingram fan but it is wat it iz
Come on son larry was toast great guy but never played on great team a journey man