As a college art teacher, one who often uses da Vinci's Last Supper as a project to sum up a drawing class linear perspective unit, I have studied closely the mural's design and history. Since the narrator mentions that it is clever to have installed the mural on an end wall of the monks'/nun's dining room, it is also worth mentioning that the scale of the figures also matches that of the people inside the dining room, and that, unlike every other depiction of the last Supper, ALL of the figures occupy the opposite side of the table. Rather crowded! That's because WE are on the front side! Leonardo has included US in the picture! Also of note is that, in addition to Jesus' gesture creating an implied triangle shape, referencing the Trinity, Jesus' position - esp. his forehead position - is at the vanishing point of the design's 1-point linear perspective design. He is at the center of everything in the picture. The vanishing point can also be seen as symbolizing infinity, because, in theory, it goes back in space forever, past the horizon line, and so refers to Jesus' identity with God. Unlike what the video's narrator says, it has been understood for centuries that the window acts as Jesus' halo, a sort of visual pun, which also shows both land and sky, signifying his unity with heaven and earth. Of course, there is more ....
I love your response. in this case in regards to the window, i dont think its the window as a structure that’s the important focal point but rather how many there are. I find this especially interesting… many ancient spiritual megalithic structures also we constructed with three windows.. does it symbolize the trinity? The stars on the belt of Orion? Or is it the divine nature of the number 3…
The painting is a lie! Leonardo di Vinci was commissioned by emperor Constantine to paint the Last Supper in 1482, with the order to paint Jesus & the Apostles all white. This is documented history!! Di Vinci used his uncle as the model for Jesus, and used 12 criminals from the jail to pose as the twelve Apostles. Google it!! Stop believing in the Greatest LIE Ever TOLD! Do your homework and learn the Truth! GOOGLE IT!!
I need someone to contact me as I have a theory that needs to be heard. More music is key to this. I would need a musical person to help decider that knows how to read music
this is so often the case with great artists. that is why! they reach a part of ourselves we don't want others to see but crave the right to do it without prejudice. the man is so loved by the world now but it's sadly too little too late for him to feel it. but his story lives on for eternity. the day I stood just feet from Mona Lisa at the Louvre I felt the same kind of awe I felt on my first visit to sacre coeur. in my opinion one of the most beautiful places on the planet!
Da Vinci was often on the run from his patrons, the Medici's - he'd take a commission and then either not complete it or even start it. Quite a number of his pieces literally was thumbing his nose at the status quo. His biography is an excellent read.
When l studied in art school years ago, l learned that overlapping figures creates a "geschtalt", which creates a shape more interesting to look at than a bunch of disconnected ones. Ordering the five groups of figures also creates a sense of rhythm and clear sense of balance which helps to make the painting feel more pleasing to the onlookers. I don't know if Leonardo knew about the geschtalt effect but he would have known about balance and rhythym. I personally think the quote from Lamentations is a bit far fetched. I noticed years ago how Jesus' figure sits isolated from the others and it forms a pyramid which confers a sense of stability to the work. I also noticed how the open window behind Jesus emphasizes both. I never knew that Leonardo had written in a notebook the identities of the twelve apostles. I appreciate that bit of knowledge. Thank you. Richard
I love that people think Leonardo was privy to ‘secrets of Christ’. He painted it over 1000 years after Christ and I’ve never read about him being related to people that were there
It has been five hundred years since Leonardo Davinci was alive and before that 1400 years at least since Jesus was born here on earth. It is not possible for Leonardo Davinci to know more about Jesus 1400 years after than we know about Leonardo five hundred years after him. In other words if we don't know much about Leo's life today when only five hundred years have passed what makes anyone think Leo knew about Jesus'life 1400 years later???
@@thomasrainbowSecret "knowledge" can be passed on by the initiated but that doesn't make it accurate. Secret knowledge and conspiracy theories can be exciting and seem to make a kind of sense but the fact that they are secret or theories should raise red flags about their validity.
Well, what we can really say is that only the painter was sure of the message he wanted to convey... but the interpretation is free, which is what makes every work of art so fascinating.
I frankly doubt Leonardo knew that much about that symbolism and "hidden hints" that we now suppose. We tend to find hidden meanings where there are none, because they are appealing. Something is obvious, something is pure speculation
This misunderstands the entire tradition and purpose of interpreting art. If you know of the artistic process, you know it takes time and deliberation. Few things are done, especially by such a profound artist as Da Vinci, just to be done. It is a reductive and misguided view to think Da Vinci didn't consider such things as the numerical symbology, symbolism of gesture, etc. discussed in this video because it fundamentally misunderstands art.
My wife and I got to see this in our honeymoon. We called the day before we went and someone had just canceled their reservation so we got in. I don’t recommend doing what we did but I definitely recommend seeing this stunning painting.
The lack of halo could just be da Vinci emphasizing the humanity of Jesus during a time when he was experiencing intense human emotions. Or it could be da Vinci expressing his scepticism.
That is Mary Madeleine which means one disciple is missing from the table...but why ? Leonardo must have had a personal reason for creating a painting he knew would be analysed extensively. Looking into his background would give an indication of his belief's thus mindset at the time of this painting's commission. Studying the written word (bible) describing the Last supper may have given Leonardo his own personal interpretation to which he relayed onto canvas or was it onto brickwork originally . Very interesting subject and to which allows continuous conversations and debates.
it’s not mary madeleine or whatever it’s john i’m pretty sure who has always been depicted as a a feminine person in every other painting including the ones that leonardo was basing this painting off of (because obviously he had to take inspiration)
but if u actually look into it every painting before this one of the last supper depicts him as feminine which is why it’s clearly john which makes sense why he’s sitting right next to jesus as they had a speical connection
The eyes are useless, when the mind is blind..the truth is stranger than fiction it’s obvious and just plain common sense and real street smart and energy and vibration and universe and true spirit with discernment that see through the deviant deeds/deception/deceiving/narratives and propaganda and agendas and history and corruption/and false religions…..the Bible is to be decoded it was written by the freemason/elite mason Catholic and rewritten…..to many clues the Da Vinci painting everyone one of them is white skinned except Judas and no food on the food plates but around the table and the number 13 is a freemason number too mason are signs symbols and numbers(gematria) why hmmm look at it…..and Da Vinci is a 33 degree freemason just as King James of Scotland 🏴 and bi-sexual like most kings and created a freemasonry lodge in Scotland too….and Christ/Jesus died at 33 that’s the highest form of freemason 33 degree 📜 and Amos 5:26-27 and Acts 7:43….and so many more don’t have the time and it’s not God either why it’s a lower form to Dog, ITS CREATOR ABOVE THIS WORLD AND UNIVERSE.…..don’t believe do real rabbit hole 🕳 research 🔬 you may not like what you see or hear of do got to have a strong spirit and open mind..if not and take it as face value…..seek the truth in what was lied to to you…..
That’s a very female looking “john“. And the Circles made out of thin lines around the disciples heads looks like a halo. I would’ve loved to hear the music that the bread and hands made.
The thing is Da Vinci was able to depict in such a way that you can distinguish male and female characters. And it's hard to believe that Da Vinci drew a male so badly that you'd mistake it for a female. Or maybe John was too feminine🙂
What I find appalling, but unfortunately happened quite often, is to open a door (the door was not there at the time) in the middle of the painting with no care to preserve it.
That’s exactly what I thought!! Who the hell thought it would be cool to put a door there and more importantly, who else agreed?? It’s the freaking last supper… Don’t Put a Door There!!
This is a top nocht video that I have even seen. Now I can grasp the gerneral informtion of work of art, namely last supper. Thank you so much for your effort.
At 2:07 the left hand side, or if your in the painting right hand side . Abouve the last man, the one with the blue shirt.. Is a cup!! I swear to God! It's a golden 🏆... Am I the only one seeing this!! I'm watching this on TV and just had to come comment because I feel like I made some crazy discovery
when you look at each person's feet they are positioned directly under the knees. indicating that everyone is sitting down. only royalty had a type of seated chair. to supp was to lounge ie; lounge chair at the table. the torso's are upright in a sitting position. there are other discrepancies in Leonardo's rendition of the Last Supper because this is his interpretation. ultimately, he had the last word.
He was an artist who used straight lines to paint thats why they are all on the same height style. Its easier to paint when u use geometry to make it all even. The use of Judas was his intent. He was a great painter and maybe could see the future but thats all. But it makes for a nice video. Thanks
i reckon all creation stories came from the same source. nothing divine, just collections of stories of actual events. even so called biblical events. great floods etc. and south america has unfathomable mysteries
Look at Saint Peter, he has THREE hands, one holding the knife and one holding the wrist of the hand holding the knife, and the third hand is at the throat of Saint John. No one can possibly bend their wrist into that kind of contortion otherwise. See the colored close-up at 5:22
They depicted that during the Paris Olympics. The Secret Society are Sending you the message. The painting is depicting the 13 bloodlines that control the world. With the Jesuits at the centre.
Nothing is secret nor there's a secret message about the painting, and ON the painting. It's just Da Vinci's take on the historic moment that people perceived it as a legend. Christians will always denied it, and Catholic will always praised it as they are. We should stop this debate already.
So Leonardo da Vinci knew people would be looking at his work today and be as popular as we have made him and have all these secret references? What luck.
I am not much of an art buff or anything but, does it not seem odd the the man to Jesus' left (Our right) has vastly different sized hands. The one that is meant to be closer to us in perspective is noticeably smaller when it should be bigger.
Thank you for this video. I truely enjoy it when art professionals explain what I am supposed to see (and often not do) and what it actually MEANS. ❤ Greetings from Berlin Germany
Good vid. I saw on another channel that Phillip has his head at the highest point. He was the first to join Jesus. Also, Judas and Philips gazes meet. They pass thru Jesus' face. As far as a self-portrait , I'm sure that people at the time would have remarked on it, cuz they knew what he looked like
Leonardo was not a religious man. His paintings were commissioned, not inspired. That he was not religious shows in his ‘depiction’ of the Last Supper. Jesus dismissed Judas before introducing the Lords Evening Meal so 12 at the table, not 13.
As for the decision on Mary Magdalene, a true amount of gospels were also thrown out during the Council of Niscae because it would go on to prove that Jesus wasn't the son of God but a genuine human man, a Jew as well. It was surely done to make Jesus the son of God out of how the way it was handled by the Church and that man has to hold the keys to heaven, and rules the world. Moreover, the "V" symbol that Leonardo displays in the Last Supper, through speculation, also goes on to depict that since Mary was Jesus' wife (during the time, companion literally meant "spouse"), she would go on to carry out her husband's message, instead of Peter, through the reading of her own gospel and in the gospel of Phillip. It is also through inference that during her husband's crucifixion, she escaped Jerusalem and landed in France, where she gave birth to Jesus' daughter, Sarah, adding insult to injury to the Church.
Its the de-jewification of the last supper. Note how all are depicted as fair of skin and hair with the obvious exception of Thomas and Judas, despite all being Jews.
@@MrBoybergs There really isn't too much knowledge on what Jews looked like in AD 30. They could have been anything from blond/blue eyed/ fair to brown skin and brown eyes. I imagine it falls somewhere in between.
i believe the last supper by leonardo was actually an inverted time piece meant to tell the church when are good times to eat ..versus better times to eat versus besets times to stuff their beings their charity to self...
But then again, this painting is just another interpretation of the last supper from a single person. You should not take this painting as the one really happened because Leonardo loves to twist and put mysteries around his works. But this is still a fascinating piece of entertainment.
This just shows how people can choose to see what they want to see and explain it how they want it to be explained. Pretty much how art has always been, when you try to explain it people will tell you it is not. I bet if Da Vinci was alive today and tried to explain this painting people will still doubt him. Because we only believe what we want to believe.
Yeah, well... nice try on the John/Mary issue. But it must be noted that in almost all the pre- and post- Leonardo Last Supper paintings, the John character is shown leaning on Jesus' shoulder (as in John 13:23) or laying in front of him, resting on the table. More importantly, there is no suggestion in the Scriptures that John ever pulled away from Jesus. So, in this case, Leonardo's image of the two is unique. Further, if you take an image of the John/Mary character and the Mary from "The Virgin of the Rocks," and make transparency's, you will see that they overlap perfectly... not close, but perfectly. Why would Leonard have made the John character an exact match to Mary, if he was not trying to send some kind of message? Lastly, Dan Brown suggests we slide the John/Mary character to lean on Jesus' side, indicating they are a couple. But you will notice that they are both looking down, line of sight seeing... nothing of interest. But if you slide Judas' neck and blue wrapped arm (from Leonardo's original painting, not Rizzoli's copy) it becomes a swaddled baby, and you will see a nice "family portrait," with both Jesus and Mary looking down at the baby, and the hand that was at Mary's neck in threat being transformed into a hand resting on the baby's head in a blessing. Not that any of this proves anything, of course, but it does strongly suggest that Leonardo believed, for whatever reason, that Jesus had a wife and child. Not in the Priory of Sion sort of way, but there is something there of interest.
Long before the book and my heavy exposure to the church, I had always seen this painting as having one female in it. I hadn’t ever discussed it. Had never counted things on it. I remember hearing that it was heavy in symbols but never cared about those symbols. If you had asked me back in the 1060s about the painting, I would’ve only said it showed Jesus eating with his male friends and one female. If pressed, I would’ve said most males were seated, not all, and the female wasn’t seated nor did she have a plate. Oh, growing up pre pubescent in South Ga. during the 1960s.
Enjoyed this. I believe Jesus experienced his human nature but had a divinity within him. We too, as humans, live in this human suffering nature but the divine lives in all of us and carries us in his womb until we are fully divine, in our nature. Jesus knew what it was like to live in this human experience and this last supper depicts the division
If Leonardo really did put these mreanings in the painting, then im with him . I agree with Leonard's beliefs. I think that Di vinci knew it was mary not peter and wasn't going to let it go without saying so. I could go on and on about Di Vinci, love him .
Proponents of this theory point to the fact that the figure seated to Jesus’ right, often identified as John, appears to have more feminine features, including flowing hair and soft facial features. This has led to the suggestion that this figure is Mary Magdalene, not John, symbolizing her importance alongside Jesus.
Imagine theses - (theory) 1.Leonado was able todecipher the bible into pictures. 2. Leaving Jesus in the centre..... While not only Mary's image is shifted the position..... 3. What happens if other characters position is shifted..........
Careful there; if some zealots succeed, you may be breaking the law by asking that question. I have a few myself: I wonder if a 'birthing person' can have a 'male womb" AND 'female penis' now, as defined by US/Canadian law at least. Not in my reality at least, now or ever. Being someone not easily convinced into joining a mass-psychosis, I don't plan to be cheerleading for children's rights to genital mutilation or related medical experimentation on the self-defined mentally-ill gender-dysphoric. Damn, have I gotten dark or is it just the world around me? (rips dab) Who cares. I'm just a hologram in a simulation anyways.
@@kanishkCrazy That is very true; if we allow a mentally-ill (self-defined with gender dysmorphia) zealots of a previously-genuine movement to write our laws... My question is where is the Catholic OUTRAGE they're so famous for!? Well, that's not applicable to this movement, even if it goes against the Bible in every possible way... Why? Because they're involved in it and have a stake in it. The Vatican ain't what they portray themselves as lololol. Freakin' crazy people worship Lucifer and Saturn!!! (look it up, I was shocked also, but it appears to be fact).
"FOR NO ONE IS CAST OFF BY THE LORD FOREVER.THOUGH HE BRINGS GRIEF HE WILL SHOW COMPASSION,SO GREAT IS HIS UNFAILING LOVE.FOR HE FOES NOT WILLINGLY BRING AFFLICTION OR GRIEF TO ANYONE." Lamentations 3 31 : 33
We knew him as the king of encryption and hidden messages, and we must search for his beginnings, where are they? Did he draw their house? Did he draw his mother? Did he draw the river and the church in which he was baptized? There is a shortcoming and we must investigate, as it is obvious that he started with realistic drawing and then graduated to the school that he specializes in in his drawings.
The Last Supper obviously represents the Zodiac. 12 disciples for the 12 houses of the Zodiac with the Sun/Son in the center. Starting at the left, disciple 1 representing Aries, you'll end up with Virgo being the woman in the painting. The disciples talk in 4 groups of 3 representing the 4 seasons. All the disciples make gestures representing their Zodiac signs. You'll notice Libra making the scales with both hands being the most obvious besides Virgo being a woman. You also have Gemini holding up both hands, as Gemini rules the hands just as Pisces rules the feet. It baffles me that we're all the way in the age of Aquarius(the Age of Knowing) and people are still believing the literal translations that were never meant to be taken literally but allegorically. Profane vs. initiated knowledge. Esoteric vs exoteric. There is no "man in the sky" coming to save humanity. The attachment of afterlife salvation to a religion was to force conversions by tricking the feeble minded into believing or thinking they'll go to hell. The savior and provider of life is the Sun. Without the Sun, we're all dead. JC and the New Testament represented the Sun/Son God for the Age of Pisces. Just as Mithras represented the Sun in the Age of Aries, killing the Bull of the Age of Taurus. Just as Moses tried to end the worship of the Golden Calf( Age ofTaurus), as the Old Testament represented the Age of Aries, as he blew a Ram's Horn. Yahweh also had the vengeful, very war oriented and mean spirited traits of Aries as opposed to JC representing Pisces. I'm a Pi Day Pisces and I have him tattooed for his true allegorical meaning. The Piscean traits and themes are throughout the NT. Water to wine(alchemical symbolism). Walking on water. Catching of 153 fish, which was actually taken from the Egyptian Book of The Dead, Chapter 153 called "The Chapter of Escaping From the Capture of Fishes".
@DivineEnergyy It's quite sad that it's obvious to you and I but not the vast majority. People are too afraid to study their belief system outside of the literal texts as if they're afraid to find something they don't want to know. It's probably because they base their entire future of "everlasting life" or their salvation on the literal version of the texts. But to those of us that know, we know why the Freemasons, Rosicrucians and other initiates call the religions the "Mysteries", because there's more than just the literal side of the scriptures, there's the esoteric/occult or allegorical side. The really sad part, is that they actually would teach the person so much more if they would open their minds.
The amount of people in these comments who seem so proud to show they don't understand the first thing about interpreting art is baffling. Newsflash: art does in fact carry meaning beyond what you can gather in a 3 second glance at it.
don't just swept-"paint " the shroud under the rug with no backing evidence, if anyone can recreate the 3D image that is on the shroud(besides all other authenticated physical details), show us and we will at least start to consider the "fake" theory
The so called "Cup" was not painted because the painter was smart and thinking ahead. Do you realize the havoc that would wave caused today with our constant search for ancient artifax and forgery?Over one item?Smart man Mr.Vinci.
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As a college art teacher, one who often uses da Vinci's Last Supper as a project to sum up a drawing class linear perspective unit, I have studied closely the mural's design and history. Since the narrator mentions that it is clever to have installed the mural on an end wall of the monks'/nun's dining room, it is also worth mentioning that the scale of the figures also matches that of the people inside the dining room, and that, unlike every other depiction of the last Supper, ALL of the figures occupy the opposite side of the table. Rather crowded! That's because WE are on the front side! Leonardo has included US in the picture! Also of note is that, in addition to Jesus' gesture creating an implied triangle shape, referencing the Trinity, Jesus' position - esp. his forehead position - is at the vanishing point of the design's 1-point linear perspective design. He is at the center of everything in the picture. The vanishing point can also be seen as symbolizing infinity, because, in theory, it goes back in space forever, past the horizon line, and so refers to Jesus' identity with God. Unlike what the video's narrator says, it has been understood for centuries that the window acts as Jesus' halo, a sort of visual pun, which also shows both land and sky, signifying his unity with heaven and earth. Of course, there is more ....
I love your response. in this case in regards to the window, i dont think its the window as a structure that’s the important focal point but rather how many there are.
I find this especially interesting… many ancient spiritual megalithic structures also we constructed with three windows.. does it symbolize the trinity? The stars on the belt of Orion? Or is it the divine nature of the number 3…
Isn't the triangular shape something he is known to use in his paintings
I just like the painting
The painting is a lie! Leonardo di Vinci was commissioned by emperor Constantine to paint the Last Supper in 1482, with the order to paint Jesus & the Apostles all white. This is documented history!! Di Vinci used his uncle as the model for Jesus, and used 12 criminals from the jail to pose as the twelve Apostles. Google it!! Stop believing in the Greatest LIE Ever TOLD! Do your homework and learn the Truth! GOOGLE IT!!
I need someone to contact me as I have a theory that needs to be heard. More music is key to this. I would need a musical person to help decider that knows how to read music
The hidden message behind "Last supper" is : The Loneliness of the Man despite being surrounded by so called "friends".
"I'm never alone, but alone all the time".
The ultimate theme of the masterpiece is : I am majestically alone but pathetically lonely......
The "Man" is ment to be jesus and he is not lonely as he has his children and the rule of the universe.
this is so often the case with great artists. that is why! they reach a part of ourselves we don't want others to see but crave the right to do it without prejudice. the man is so loved by the world now but it's sadly too little too late for him to feel it. but his story lives on for eternity. the day I stood just feet from Mona Lisa at the Louvre I felt the same kind of awe I felt on my first visit to sacre coeur. in my opinion one of the most beautiful places on the planet!
I think you’re right
Da Vinci was often on the run from his patrons, the Medici's - he'd take a commission and then either not complete it or even start it. Quite a number of his pieces literally was thumbing his nose at the status quo. His biography is an excellent read.
When l studied in art school years ago, l learned that overlapping figures creates a "geschtalt", which creates a shape more interesting to look at than a bunch of disconnected ones. Ordering the five groups of figures also creates a sense of rhythm and clear sense of balance which helps to make the painting feel more pleasing to the onlookers. I don't know if Leonardo knew about the geschtalt effect but he would have known about balance and rhythym. I personally think the quote from Lamentations is a bit far fetched. I noticed years ago how Jesus' figure sits isolated from the others and it forms a pyramid which confers a sense of stability to the work. I also noticed how the open window behind Jesus emphasizes both. I never knew that Leonardo had written in a notebook the identities of the twelve apostles. I appreciate that bit of knowledge. Thank you. Richard
I love that people think Leonardo was privy to ‘secrets of Christ’. He painted it over 1000 years after Christ and I’ve never read about him being related to people that were there
Secret knowledge can be passed down throughout centuries by the initiated
It has been five hundred years since Leonardo Davinci was alive and before that 1400 years at least since Jesus was born here on earth.
It is not possible for Leonardo Davinci to know more about Jesus 1400 years after than we know about Leonardo five hundred years after him.
In other words if we don't know much about Leo's life today when only five hundred years have passed what makes anyone think Leo knew about Jesus'life 1400 years later???
@@thomasrainbowSecret "knowledge" can be passed on by the initiated but that doesn't make it accurate. Secret knowledge and conspiracy theories can be exciting and seem to make a kind of sense but the fact that they are secret or theories should raise red flags about their validity.
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Well, what we can really say is that only the painter was sure of the message he wanted to convey... but the interpretation is free, which is what makes every work of art so fascinating.
I frankly doubt Leonardo knew that much about that symbolism and "hidden hints" that we now suppose. We tend to find hidden meanings where there are none, because they are appealing. Something is obvious, something is pure speculation
He did. But it’s hard to say if it was gnostic or just a angle of the world he had.
This misunderstands the entire tradition and purpose of interpreting art. If you know of the artistic process, you know it takes time and deliberation. Few things are done, especially by such a profound artist as Da Vinci, just to be done. It is a reductive and misguided view to think Da Vinci didn't consider such things as the numerical symbology, symbolism of gesture, etc. discussed in this video because it fundamentally misunderstands art.
Word of mouth is a form of knowledge, why not “cement” it in person
Mary Madeleine was a disciple in my opinion. Some of the disciples were jealous of her!
Women were not prominent in religion, especially in the Jewish faith. She most likely was an apostle.
Probably that's why Peter is shown to believe that Mary would be the betrayer and somehow threaten her, but Mary knowing the truth kept calm
I agree with you. Women had no place in those roles back then. Even today, in the Jewish faith, women have no place. Remember, "Yentl" ?
So where is John in this painting if the person near Jesus was marry ?
I think perhaps you have her confused with Yoko Ono. 🙄
Imagine if you had a Time Machine. And you took a load of references back to him and quizzed him on it.
I'm still working on my Time Machine in the garage. I would love one of those. Id definitely go back to LD era and speak to the man.
@@raysmith2940 how’s the time machine now. :)
My wife and I got to see this in our honeymoon. We called the day before we went and someone had just canceled their reservation so we got in. I don’t recommend doing what we did but I definitely recommend seeing this stunning painting.
Wouldn’t recommend what? The honeymoon or the painting?
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Wouldn’t recommend trying to get a reservation less than 24 hours before seeing the painting.
@@debbylou5729haha I came to ask the same haha ot was her recommending NOT GETTING MARRIED!!
Obviously thats a lady next to Jesus. Leo was so brilliant that he had multiple meanings to everything thats in this painting.
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This is a fabulous find on an intriguing day. Thanks for your addition to it !
The lack of halo could just be da Vinci emphasizing the humanity of Jesus during a time when he was experiencing intense human emotions. Or it could be da Vinci expressing his scepticism.
I like the way you see things and your inner knowing.
That is Mary Madeleine which means one disciple is missing from the table...but why ?
Leonardo must have had a personal reason for creating a painting he knew would be analysed extensively.
Looking into his background would give an indication of his belief's thus mindset at the time of this painting's commission.
Studying the written word (bible) describing the Last supper may have given Leonardo his own personal interpretation to which he relayed onto canvas or was it onto brickwork originally .
Very interesting subject and to which allows continuous conversations and debates.
it’s not mary madeleine or whatever it’s john i’m pretty sure who has always been depicted as a a feminine person in every other painting including the ones that leonardo was basing this painting off of (because obviously he had to take inspiration)
but if u actually look into it every painting before this one of the last supper depicts him as feminine which is why it’s clearly john which makes sense why he’s sitting right next to jesus as they had a speical connection
Robert Grant believes the painting is related to the Great pyramid
The eyes are useless, when the mind is blind..the truth is stranger than fiction it’s obvious and just plain common sense and real street smart and energy and vibration and universe and true spirit with discernment that see through the deviant deeds/deception/deceiving/narratives and propaganda and agendas and history and corruption/and false religions…..the Bible is to be decoded it was written by the freemason/elite mason Catholic and rewritten…..to many clues the Da Vinci painting everyone one of them is white skinned except Judas and no food on the food plates but around the table and the number 13 is a freemason number too mason are signs symbols and numbers(gematria) why hmmm look at it…..and Da Vinci is a 33 degree freemason just as King James of Scotland 🏴 and bi-sexual like most kings and created a freemasonry lodge in Scotland too….and Christ/Jesus died at 33 that’s the highest form of freemason 33 degree 📜 and Amos 5:26-27 and Acts 7:43….and so many more don’t have the time and it’s not God either why it’s a lower form to Dog, ITS CREATOR ABOVE THIS WORLD AND UNIVERSE.…..don’t believe do real rabbit hole 🕳 research 🔬 you may not like what you see or hear of do got to have a strong spirit and open mind..if not and take it as face value…..seek the truth in what was lied to to you…..
@@jermaine19 did john have long red hair?
That’s a very female looking “john“. And the Circles made out of thin lines around the disciples heads looks like a halo. I would’ve loved to hear the music that the bread and hands made.
The thing is Da Vinci was able to depict in such a way that you can distinguish male and female characters. And it's hard to believe that Da Vinci drew a male so badly that you'd mistake it for a female.
Or maybe John was too feminine🙂
Or maybe John looks feminine because he has been portrayed as very young?
"John" looks feminine because his hair is long, just like Jesus and 3 other men in the picture. Could "John" be the youngest man in the picture?
It wasn't John but Mary Magdalene, the disciple that Jesus loved.
@@1106gary Also "his" eyebrows are very fine and more like a woman.
What I find appalling, but unfortunately happened quite often, is to open a door (the door was not there at the time) in the middle of the painting with no care to preserve it.
Thats what I said when I saw that. I was like what the heck?!
That’s exactly what I thought!! Who the hell thought it would be cool to put a door there and more importantly, who else agreed??
It’s the freaking last supper… Don’t Put a Door There!!
Weird that there are glasses depicted .Didn’t know that glass was around in Jesus’ time. Thought it was metal or clay?
This is a top nocht video that I have even seen. Now I can grasp the gerneral informtion of work of art, namely last supper. Thank you so much for your effort.
Judging from this you could make up anything you like to go along with the painting. It's open for your own interpretation
As it depicts a fictional event everyone should paint their version. And lets take a vote.
At 2:07 the left hand side, or if your in the painting right hand side . Abouve the last man, the one with the blue shirt.. Is a cup!! I swear to God! It's a golden 🏆... Am I the only one seeing this!! I'm watching this on TV and just had to come comment because I feel like I made some crazy discovery
@tawnibuss4386 and what do you think this symbolizes
I love the "glasses " wine on the table. Looks like the producer of the video could have used a picture of the real last supper painting.
What are you sayin'?... 😂😂😂 That's the real paintings of the last supper, u wanted to see a chalice or the cup of Christ?... 🤡
when you look at each person's feet they are positioned directly under the knees. indicating that everyone is sitting down. only royalty had a type of seated chair. to supp was to lounge ie; lounge chair at the table. the torso's are upright in a sitting position. there are other discrepancies in Leonardo's rendition of the Last Supper because this is his interpretation. ultimately, he had the last word.
good
it's art, not a photograph.
So many message in this painting.
He was an artist who used straight lines to paint thats why they are all on the same height style. Its easier to paint when u use geometry to make it all even. The use of Judas was his intent. He was a great painter and maybe could see the future but thats all. But it makes for a nice video. Thanks
The three windows reminds me of Machu Picchu and the temple of 3 windows. I think it also involves their creation story
i reckon all creation stories came from the same source. nothing divine, just collections of stories of actual events. even so called biblical events. great floods etc. and south america has unfathomable mysteries
St. Peter in this painting looks a lot like Woodey Harlesson :)
I do see halos around most of them! Look closely! What does the music sound like from the picture?
Look at Saint Peter, he has THREE hands, one holding the knife and one holding the wrist of the hand holding the knife, and the third hand is at the throat of Saint John. No one can possibly bend their wrist into that kind of contortion otherwise. See the colored close-up at 5:22
noticed that as well. also loook at the eyebrows at 8:14
that has to be a female or a trans.
How much that painting now?
They depicted that during the Paris Olympics.
The Secret Society are Sending you the message.
The painting is depicting the 13 bloodlines that control the world.
With the Jesuits at the centre.
@@elysium30 Ain't no way you wrote that comment and thought it was smart enough to post
I could've sworn that wasn't there
Nothing is secret nor there's a secret message about the painting, and ON the painting. It's just Da Vinci's take on the historic moment that people perceived it as a legend. Christians will always denied it, and Catholic will always praised it as they are. We should stop this debate already.
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There may be no secrets, but you can't deny there is no symbolism. I'm speaking specifically about Jesus and John/Mary
So Leonardo da Vinci knew people would be looking at his work today and be as popular as we have made him and have all these secret references? What luck.
I love Leonardo and his works, I love his mysteries
Did they have clear glass cups at the time this painting is suppose to show ?
I have never heard of the Shroud being a self portrait of Leonardo. That is a fascinating theory.
I am not much of an art buff or anything but, does it not seem odd the the man to Jesus' left (Our right) has vastly different sized hands. The one that is meant to be closer to us in perspective is noticeably smaller when it should be bigger.
The Great Artist in world
What's title of the background the Music at this video?......
Thank you for this video. I truely enjoy it when art professionals explain what I am supposed to see (and often not do) and what it actually MEANS. ❤ Greetings from Berlin Germany
Good vid. I saw on another channel that Phillip has his head at the highest point. He was the first to join Jesus. Also, Judas and Philips gazes meet. They pass thru Jesus' face. As far as a self-portrait , I'm sure that people at the time would have remarked on it, cuz they knew what he looked like
Painting means nothing, but a painting. He wasn`t there, in Jesus`s time.
Exactly!
Comments on RUclips mean less than nothing
Leonardo was not a religious man. His paintings were commissioned, not inspired. That he was not religious shows in his ‘depiction’ of the Last Supper. Jesus dismissed Judas before introducing the Lords Evening Meal so 12 at the table, not 13.
Jesus dismissed Judas after the Last Supper.
JESUS had only his apostles with Him
No Judas wasn’t dismissed before the Passover meal. If you read the Gospels , you’d know this.
The position of the hands can also be elined on the musical scale . The results when adjusted is astonishing 😮
As for the decision on Mary Magdalene, a true amount of gospels were also thrown out during the Council of Niscae because it would go on to prove that Jesus wasn't the son of God but a genuine human man, a Jew as well. It was surely done to make Jesus the son of God out of how the way it was handled by the Church and that man has to hold the keys to heaven, and rules the world. Moreover, the "V" symbol that Leonardo displays in the Last Supper, through speculation, also goes on to depict that since Mary was Jesus' wife (during the time, companion literally meant "spouse"), she would go on to carry out her husband's message, instead of Peter, through the reading of her own gospel and in the gospel of Phillip. It is also through inference that during her husband's crucifixion, she escaped Jerusalem and landed in France, where she gave birth to Jesus' daughter, Sarah, adding insult to injury to the Church.
Good job on the video.
if it's all guesswork, then nothing is revealed
Agreed
Gbu😊
ONE THING STRIKES ME IS THAT THEY DREW THE BREAD AS LEVENED BREAD INSTEAD OF PITA OR FLAT BREAD WHICH I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS EATEN HERE?
Great video 👍👍👍
Another weird thing is that the last supper was supposed to go a Passover Seder, yet they have rolls of bread and NOT matzo?
Its the de-jewification of the last supper. Note how all are depicted as fair of skin and hair with the obvious exception of Thomas and Judas, despite all being Jews.
They also appear to be eating poultry rather than lamb.
@@MrBoybergs There really isn't too much knowledge on what Jews looked like in AD 30. They could have been anything from blond/blue eyed/ fair to brown skin and brown eyes. I imagine it falls somewhere in between.
i loooooooove information like this , great video
i believe the last supper by leonardo was actually an inverted time piece meant to tell the church when are good times to eat ..versus better times to eat versus besets times to stuff their beings their charity to self...
But then again, this painting is just another interpretation of the last supper from a single person. You should not take this painting as the one really happened because Leonardo loves to twist and put mysteries around his works. But this is still a fascinating piece of entertainment.
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So cool - Happy music
This just shows how people can choose to see what they want to see and explain it how they want it to be explained. Pretty much how art has always been, when you try to explain it people will tell you it is not. I bet if Da Vinci was alive today and tried to explain this painting people will still doubt him. Because we only believe what we want to believe.
This video starts with the line. 'Probably the most famous Da Vinci Painting.' We've forgotten all about the Mona Lisa, then.
They just forgot the adjective, 'religious'.
Yeah, well... nice try on the John/Mary issue. But it must be noted that in almost all the pre- and post- Leonardo Last Supper paintings, the John character is shown leaning on Jesus' shoulder (as in John 13:23) or laying in front of him, resting on the table. More importantly, there is no suggestion in the Scriptures that John ever pulled away from Jesus. So, in this case, Leonardo's image of the two is unique. Further, if you take an image of the John/Mary character and the Mary from "The Virgin of the Rocks," and make transparency's, you will see that they overlap perfectly... not close, but perfectly. Why would Leonard have made the John character an exact match to Mary, if he was not trying to send some kind of message? Lastly, Dan Brown suggests we slide the John/Mary character to lean on Jesus' side, indicating they are a couple. But you will notice that they are both looking down, line of sight seeing... nothing of interest. But if you slide Judas' neck and blue wrapped arm (from Leonardo's original painting, not Rizzoli's copy) it becomes a swaddled baby, and you will see a nice "family portrait," with both Jesus and Mary looking down at the baby, and the hand that was at Mary's neck in threat being transformed into a hand resting on the baby's head in a blessing.
Not that any of this proves anything, of course, but it does strongly suggest that Leonardo believed, for whatever reason, that Jesus had a wife and child. Not in the Priory of Sion sort of way, but there is something there of interest.
26k subscribers . This really speaks for our society. For anybody that cares this is the shallow end of the pool
Last supper tonight
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Nice one
Long before the book and my heavy exposure to the church, I had always seen this painting as having one female in it. I hadn’t ever discussed it. Had never counted things on it. I remember hearing that it was heavy in symbols but never cared about those symbols. If you had asked me back in the 1060s about the painting, I would’ve only said it showed Jesus eating with his male friends and one female. If pressed, I would’ve said most males were seated, not all, and the female wasn’t seated nor did she have a plate.
Oh, growing up pre pubescent in South Ga. during the 1960s.
nice one
I doubt he was depicting Judas as being left handed. He is holding his precious money in his dominant hand
Good video
08:10 seconds is left left or right is left?
Enjoyed this. I believe Jesus experienced his human nature but had a divinity within him. We too, as humans, live in this human suffering nature but the divine lives in all of us and carries us in his womb until we are fully divine, in our nature. Jesus knew what it was like to live in this human experience and this last supper depicts the division
The 4 sets of 3 are the 4 seasons and the female is the symbol of Virgo…i suggest you look up Jordan maxwell or santos bonacci aka mrastrotheology…
Why has all the meat been eaten leaving the bones but all the bread hasnt been touched ?
A man can not live on bread alone 😂
@@SuperHappyScrapper lol
Because you will receive eternal life through bread and wine and the body/meat will be left behind as bones.
Carb diet for everyone?
@@ikmarchini But arent meat and bones 2 separate things...thats a bit like saying your buses will be left behind as trains !
So the halos over the disciples heads aren't noticed while talking about what DaVinci thought as a naturalist
nice docu
Beautiful work...must be appreciated however exploring not needed.
I think the exploration is fascinating! Please keep these videos up! Thanks so much!
Thank you
The last supper is actually the Passover Feast.....he is our Lamb!
If Leonardo really did put these mreanings in the painting, then im with him . I agree with Leonard's beliefs. I think that Di vinci knew it was mary not peter and wasn't going to let it go without saying so. I could go on and on about Di Vinci, love him .
My man wants to reveal secrets of Da Vinci's painting
Also my man: shows the "secrets" in a *copy* of the painting
Proponents of this theory point to the fact that the figure seated to Jesus’ right, often identified as John, appears to have more feminine features, including flowing hair and soft facial features. This has led to the suggestion that this figure is Mary Magdalene, not John, symbolizing her importance alongside Jesus.
Jesus is White.
Imagine theses - (theory)
1.Leonado was able todecipher the bible into pictures.
2. Leaving Jesus in the centre.....
While not only Mary's image is shifted the position.....
3. What happens if other characters position is shifted..........
"The female womb." Is there another kind?
Careful there; if some zealots succeed, you may be breaking the law by asking that question. I have a few myself:
I wonder if a 'birthing person' can have a 'male womb" AND 'female penis' now, as defined by US/Canadian law at least. Not in my reality at least, now or ever.
Being someone not easily convinced into joining a mass-psychosis, I don't plan to be cheerleading for children's rights to genital mutilation or related medical experimentation on the self-defined mentally-ill gender-dysphoric.
Damn, have I gotten dark or is it just the world around me?
(rips dab) Who cares. I'm just a hologram in a simulation anyways.
😂😂😂no…….but we have decided to humor them……..the answer is still no…….
It is 2023, everything possible these days 😂
@@kanishkCrazy
But for greater and greater delusion, no. Only women can have babies.
@@kanishkCrazy That is very true; if we allow a mentally-ill (self-defined with gender dysmorphia) zealots of a previously-genuine movement to write our laws...
My question is where is the Catholic OUTRAGE they're so famous for!?
Well, that's not applicable to this movement, even if it goes against the Bible in every possible way... Why? Because they're involved in it and have a stake in it. The Vatican ain't what they portray themselves as lololol. Freakin' crazy people worship Lucifer and Saturn!!! (look it up, I was shocked also, but it appears to be fact).
"FOR NO ONE IS CAST OFF BY THE LORD FOREVER.THOUGH HE BRINGS GRIEF HE WILL SHOW COMPASSION,SO GREAT IS HIS UNFAILING LOVE.FOR HE FOES NOT WILLINGLY BRING AFFLICTION OR GRIEF TO ANYONE." Lamentations 3 31 : 33
We knew him as the king of encryption and hidden messages, and we must search for his beginnings, where are they? Did he draw their house? Did he draw his mother? Did he draw the river and the church in which he was baptized? There is a shortcoming and we must investigate, as it is obvious that he started with realistic drawing and then graduated to the school that he specializes in in his drawings.
"Sinister" literally means "left" in Latin
I praise and extol thee Lord almighty and through thee we, too, may find connection and high inspiration
That painting has been restored so many times over the past, almost hundred years… what remains are of Leonardo?
Such a hard worker.
That painting looks nice, but Yall tripping
The Last Supper obviously represents the Zodiac. 12 disciples for the 12 houses of the Zodiac with the Sun/Son in the center. Starting at the left, disciple 1 representing Aries, you'll end up with Virgo being the woman in the painting. The disciples talk in 4 groups of 3 representing the 4 seasons. All the disciples make gestures representing their Zodiac signs. You'll notice Libra making the scales with both hands being the most obvious besides Virgo being a woman. You also have Gemini holding up both hands, as Gemini rules the hands just as Pisces rules the feet. It baffles me that we're all the way in the age of Aquarius(the Age of Knowing) and people are still believing the literal translations that were never meant to be taken literally but allegorically. Profane vs. initiated knowledge. Esoteric vs exoteric. There is no "man in the sky" coming to save humanity. The attachment of afterlife salvation to a religion was to force conversions by tricking the feeble minded into believing or thinking they'll go to hell. The savior and provider of life is the Sun. Without the Sun, we're all dead. JC and the New Testament represented the Sun/Son God for the Age of Pisces. Just as Mithras represented the Sun in the Age of Aries, killing the Bull of the Age of Taurus. Just as Moses tried to end the worship of the Golden Calf( Age ofTaurus), as the Old Testament represented the Age of Aries, as he blew a Ram's Horn. Yahweh also had the vengeful, very war oriented and mean spirited traits of Aries as opposed to JC representing Pisces. I'm a Pi Day Pisces and I have him tattooed for his true allegorical meaning. The Piscean traits and themes are throughout the NT. Water to wine(alchemical symbolism). Walking on water. Catching of 153 fish, which was actually taken from the Egyptian Book of The Dead, Chapter 153 called "The Chapter of Escaping From the Capture of Fishes".
The comment I was looking for! Like it’s so obvious 😂 thank you for speaking true knowledge!
@DivineEnergyy It's quite sad that it's obvious to you and I but not the vast majority. People are too afraid to study their belief system outside of the literal texts as if they're afraid to find something they don't want to know. It's probably because they base their entire future of "everlasting life" or their salvation on the literal version of the texts. But to those of us that know, we know why the Freemasons, Rosicrucians and other initiates call the religions the "Mysteries", because there's more than just the literal side of the scriptures, there's the esoteric/occult or allegorical side. The really sad part, is that they actually would teach the person so much more if they would open their minds.
The amount of people in these comments who seem so proud to show they don't understand the first thing about interpreting art is baffling. Newsflash: art does in fact carry meaning beyond what you can gather in a 3 second glance at it.
don't just swept-"paint " the shroud under the rug with no backing evidence, if anyone can recreate the 3D image that is on the shroud(besides all other authenticated physical details), show us and we will at least start to consider the "fake" theory
Mary is the holy grail she is looking down with a face that she is very fortunate to have men that will protect her
They held the same pose for the drawing? Or was this a photo taken ? They were moving around of course there will be different drawings
John was probably in the john.
After drinking all that wine, anyone would
@@pranavgaonkar8660 stupid comment
It is a female...Davinci's artistic liberty...not intended to to depuct John, because Divinci , had his own religious ideas.
I could be wrong but didn’t Judas get the money after they captured Jesus how could he have had it before ?
How much that painting now??
just asking from some one who can give out a real good answer,, was glass ware used during that time of Jesus?
Morio Fox
Only by the wealthy elites like the Romans (King Herod) if I’m not mistaken. Jews in Galilee would have used earthenware vessels.
Unless one is well-versed in music, it’s difficult to even imagine or recognize dissonant chords.
There's much more hidden symbolism related to the sun ,seasons, months of the year etc.
1:36 Stop why did I think of the girl from that vine video😭
Plus Mary is next to Jesus which makes so much sense to me .
23k followers? 194 likes? And, only 9 comments? That doesn't make sense.
I am a Christian and I am left handed. Mary was very beautiful she is the holy grail
The so called "Cup" was not painted because the painter was smart and thinking ahead.
Do you realize the havoc that would wave caused today with our constant search for ancient artifax and forgery?Over one item?Smart man Mr.Vinci.
I never got the idea that a middle age scientist would paint religous pictures