One of the most musically intricate reaction channels I’ve found. Bringing a lot of insight into actual music theory and structure as opposed to just emotional reaction. I dig it man. Great channel
They specifically re-recorded this song during this session so their new drummer, Vlad could lay down his own drums for it. I like his drums better than his predecessor's take on them (as heard on the album King of Everything).
Gotta say, young channel but your production quality is up there. Nice intro, clean sound, well presented without getting caught up. Good stuff, I will be sticking around.
@@ChaseCarneson Exactly, I will echo what 'Ae Nortist' was saying. What you say when you say it feels genuine. That is what I LOVE about reaction channels! I know the song, I know my first reaction. And it is just wonderful to see that a person with a lot more knowledge about this reacts to this song. Every time I watch one of your video's it feels like I am learning. You have a nice clear commentary on it centered around your own personality with enough objecticity, which is really hard to find. And I have been around watching a LOT of reactions to this song, and Nightwish songs in general. It is just refreshing to find a person with an honest subjective view that has enough knowledge to drop some objective bombs! And yes, the quality of the edits are very good, especially for a starting channel! Although I would give the warning about background lighting, make sure the background is not more lit than you are. You are the focus of your video's, and really, with your insights that should be more than enough. So in short, the highest of praises to you! You who dares to put yourself and your opinions out there. Keep on keepin' on man!
Tati is a beast and Jinjer is an awesome band,- we all know that by now. What really makes the difference for me is something most people seem to overlook. Jinjer, - being from the easternmost part of Europe bordering on Russia and what is the beginning of the Middle East,- their traditional music is based around folk tunes and folk dances rooted in a wide variety of off meters. Allmost none of their song have any kind of straight backbeat to them or in them. Tons of 3/4, 5/4, 7/4, 12/8, 9/8, 6/4, 6/8, 15/8 etc,- but almost no 4/4 or 2/4 anywhere. If you sit down and start tapping your foot to any of their songs and then start counting meters and bars you´ll quickly find that they don´t adher to standard forms of doing rock, pop and metal songs,- yet everything they do is done so smoothly and with such fluency that nobody seems to notice. I have by now watched quite a few Jinjer reactions,- including from various musicians´s channels,- on rare occasions do even the musicians note anything funky going on,- which to me is very impressively done by Jinjer. Pisces is a very melodically flowing song, but even when they chop things up and go percussive, though heavy and in your face, it´s still as groovy and flowing as a RHCP or Rage Against The Machine song. I´ve heard women growl ,fry and scream before,- it´s just that Tati is an absolute master at it, I´ve heard funky beats before, I´m a born metalhead so the guitar playing is nothing new to me but Jinjer´s combination of it all mated with their uncanny second nature sense of what to the rest of us would be off beat and strange rhythms stands out to me as being unique. And because they´re so god at it and it comes so naturally to them even the musicians don´t notice something that should be screaming in their faces! An awesome band and a high-level display of consumate musicianship. Only serves to heigthen my respect for them.
Yes, two vocals. They layered them after the fact. It’s most notable during the “Neptune’s child” verse. There’s a whisper dubbed over her clean voice. In live performances, Eugene has stated that they use only a short delay to double her voice and make it fatter.
The extreme vocals (as Tati refers to them as) is actually 2 tracks as well. Anyway it's not like they tried to hide the fact that there is some post production done, it's in the video description. Not the specifics of it though IIRC. But no tuning or other dirty tricks, at least I can't hear it. I usually can...
@@v0vab0b yes I know they use a click track, but pretty sure they did the extra vox in post here. They don't have the additional vocal tracks as part of the live show so it wouldn't make sense to create a separate click track just for this one recording. But that's just semantics and doesn't really matter. :)
Great musical analysis, cleared a lot of points for me, the only thing that you can add is lyrical analysis, it will help you to understand the song structure, the lyrics are amazing (for all Jinjer songs). To continue, I recommend check all their live performances, Perennial 2019 in Wacken, Who is gonna be the one, On the top live in Kiev, Cloud factory live...
Really appreciate the feedback and kind words. Definitely going to look into the lyrics and expand on that. Also, Planning on doing Perennial this week so keep an eye out for that one!
Hell, I almost missed it. It never came up in my search because I search for "Reaction". Just as I was recently criticizing someone for their crappy sound editing and after watching this I must thank you. It's the first time that I see someone do what you did. Taking the time to edit the audio every time you speak adds a special touch to the video. Nobody does it. Thank you.
They use drop A tuning. Roman (guitar) and Eugene (bass) both use a Helix. Roman's European live rig is a 6505 and in the U.S. it's a 5150. The tone is a mix of the Helix and amp pre with some IRs for consistency between rigs, but most of the tone is the Helix itself. He's slamming the front end with boost/slight OD and uses very little amp distortion to get that clear-cut tone. (Edited, I had the amps switched) ruclips.net/video/eWhvEQVnC3k/видео.html It's funny how you mentioned the drummer (Vlad). This was actually the first song they recorded with him. Pisces was already recorded and on their album King of Everything with their previous drummer (who now mixes their live sound), but after they heard how he changed it from what was on the album, they decided to go back and record this.
Great review and reaction. Nice that you looked past the vocals to see what the band does in the back. They are all incredible musicians. Can't wait for more.
Being a guitarist, I think that's something I'm always going to have at the front of my mind. Much more coming. New Nightwish - Ghost Love Score up a little while ago.
The basist once said in an interview that the original singer was actually a male. Tati, the current singer, was just a friend of theirs, they asked her to sing for a couple of shows or something. That goes on ever since
Best live performances are probably Perennial Live at Wacken Open Air 2019, Who is Gonna Be The One (Live), and Captain Clock Live at Ressurection Fest. Also good is On the Top Live in Kiev. They have a lot of Official Videos that look like live performances but they are just using live footage (sometimes from one show and sometimes from several shows) as a backdrop for the official album version of the song.
You should indeed take a look to her lyrics, she writes brilliantly, whatever the song. This song is a shock value but you obviously know your way around musical practice and I'd suggest you now check their song "Perennial" live in Wacken 2019. You should really like it. Cheers!
The drummer (he was new to the band at the time of this song) was the reason they actually released this song, they did not like the song initially, then he added that jazzy sound and they felt it just clicked. Awesome that you picked up on that!
Vlad is such a bad ass drummer. He's all business. snare, 2 floor toms, and bunch of cymbals. right handed open drummer. He's actually a classically trained pianist, that only learned drums to play in Jinjer. In fact, he's the only one in the band with any formal training.
🤣"God forbid a plectra" and i lost it 🤣 Solid advice sir. Keep doing the good work. 👌😎 I can tell you for a fact that they are as tight and sounds are really tightly tuned/mixed when you see them live. Seen them a couple of times.
Glad you noticed the shifting time signatures. The verse starts in 7/8, shifts to 6/8, and then ends up in 4. But they manage to keep it from sounding angular or complex. It's just so smooth. As for their "jazzy" sound, you should hear what comes after this on the album, "Beggar's Dance," which is pretty much a straight jazz song.
@@ChaseCarneson This song has quickly become one of the most reacted to songs on the internet. It is especially fun when the person reacting know nothing about the band. Thank you for keeping us entertained during these crazy times. 😃
About what you said in the beginning about the "jazzyness" of the drummer: He actually started out playing jazz piano (if I'm not mistaken) and later picked up the drums. But I know for a fact that he also plays contrabass and guitar. Hes just an all around awesome musician.
Good catch with the time signature. 123, 1234. Subtle technical challenge for all members to time themselves to that. They are a very skilled band. The vocals effect you picked up was a double delay. It was still her live but doubled over.
Because they arrived early at the studio and she was able to lay don some overlay vocal tacks makes this video one of a kind, as what she does here she doesn't do completely live. Especially at the end when she sings clean high-"searching for a hook to catch on" is all guttural warrior voice.
Perennial live at Wacken open air 2019 is a great live performance. Sounds like they pulled there sound from the board for the recording but it gives you a good idea of a true live experience.
If you want some live Jinjer then you can try Perennial live at Waken Open Air 2019, or On the top live in Kiev. Or maybe Pit of consciousness live in Kiev.
Some songs are in drop A (earlier songs), some in drop C# (I think). JINJER - Teacher, Teacher! (Official Video) ruclips.net/video/oRkRwL0vjOg/видео.html JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019) ruclips.net/video/bxi3i9wzQBk/видео.html
i love this class of reaction for your scared o funnest face in this case your appreciation is very good!!! definitely tatiana is a goddess of metal and magnificent singer. greetings From Bogota Colombia excuse my english im learning
Tetiana has been singing in 8 different bands since she was 15 years old. She was born in the year of Cat (Rabbit), 1987, according to Chinese horoscope, and her zodiac sign is Pisces. Tetiana has made great lyrics to this song. As a matter of fact she is telling here about the Pisces personality, about her own character, about herself...
Well yeah on the vocals but they did this not long after Vlad joined on the drums. They really wanted to show case his drumming style. Dmitri Kim is a bad ass drummer by all means and thankfully he was able to continue playing. He fell out of a motel window back in 2016 and sustained a pretty serious injury. The whole band had to scrap money to get him a surgery. He did all the drum work on King of Everything and that is who you see on the I speak Astronomy official video. you can also see a few videos with Jinjer live, and go to his you tube channel dmitri kim. He's a session player now, but on his channel he does a segment of I speak astronomy. He hasn't lost a lick.
You'll see in some of their live performances there is a backing track, click track, and vocal harmonies overlaid. Their Live set in Melbourne 2020 is really really mixed well, sounds really great for a true live set. and you can hear a lot of the technical intricacies.
Totally agree about their use of technicality. All are really talented (especially Eugene - bass) but they’re very tasteful about it. You might not hear everything each member can do in the course of a single song, and that’s ok. I also love both of Tatiana’s voices...they stand alone great and can hold their own. What’s awesome about Jinjer is the band would be worth listening to on its own, as would Tatiana...no weak links.
This is my first time here. I really like your detail of the music, very well done. I think you should check out one of their live concerts. They have several here on RUclips. Perennial is certainly one of the ones I enjoy the most. Happy to support and looking forward to more from you.
The layering you're hearing is a little delay (and probably some reverb, maybe some chorus..?) that they also use during their live shows. There are a few interviews where they talk about it.
Another great analysis video. I am pretty happy, that you look 'deeper' at the songs as the most rectors. Abonnented you channel! Keep up the great work!! Thanks! (btw. try to count the meter of the song ;o) ) Greetings from Austria Woody
I really liked your reaction mate! Out of curiosity, by chance is your inset video set at a low resolution? I ask just since when there’s text on screen within the inset video (like at 11:54), the text looks kinda pixelated a bit? And if you might like to listen to more Jinjer, I think you’d really enjoy “Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019)” and “Who’s Gonna Be the One”-and that’s just to name two among many others! (And both of those are live to boot!) And just as a preemptive heads-up: If you might like to pronounce “Wacken” like the locals, one would say “Vah-ken.” (In German, “W” is pronounced like a “V” is in English.) I’m only mentioning that part just since most folks seem to stumble over that one a bit.
Hey Ashley, It is. I have some new gear on the way which will take care of all the video technical issues and quality. Deliveries taking a bit longer nowadays but definitely on it. Thanks for the feedback.
Awesome Reaction, dude! You pay real close attention to every detail. Kudos!! Also, just fyi, the notes you mentioned on the snare drums are called ghost notes. And indeed the vocals are layered. Nonetheless, she performs them beautifully. If you want to see her at her best, check out their live performance of Perennial (Live at Wacken 2019). Loving the reactions. Keep up the amazing work. Cheers from Brazil
Really loving your analysis. Stumbled across you in my present habit of watching Band-Maid reactions and here i am watching your analysis of another band. Thumbs up for your video. I don't really do the whole "screaming" thing. Technically what she's doing i find impressive but it stops me wanting to listen to the band again. Each to their own i guess.
Great analysis - subbed. Glad you picked up on the vocal layers and editing - it's kinda painful when someone thinks this is actually live. :p I've seen them twice and they are epic on stage, at least as good as what they do in studio. The guys are all incredible (Roman on guitar, Eugene on bass, and Vlad on drums) but it is easy to miss that as great as Tatiana is. If you want to check out a bootleg, best I've seen of Pisces is in the live in Israel full set uploaded by Idan Shahar - links to each song are in the top comment. Perennial live at Wacken is a great follow-up reaction that is more representative of their style, though even that is lightly retouched. It shows off her cleans but doesn't get into her lowest growls (neither does Pisces).
Appreciate the kind words, Jeffrey. Still very impressed with band and song regardless of the "live" nature of the recording. Technical without being too forced. I'll definitely give that one a listen then. Also, properly jealous you've seen them live.
AS for the "Live" part, I did a major rant a while back as to why this is not live audio or video. No need to go over it. I really wanted to say that all the official live stuff is of course taken to a studio and cleaned up a bit before release by most record labels. Its not like the old days though where jimmy page spent weeks touchng stuff up. Jinjer is that good live, they dont need much help to make something sound good. Their old drummer seems to do a lot of it for them and knows how they should sound. I have seen some bootlegs from nights that Tatiana is stuggling to hear and gets off a bit. but that is the nature of live music. I have been listening for a couple years now, I just heard a mistake for the first time from these guys. (BIG worng note... the kind that gets a conversation later ) A rare moment they prove they are only human. lol. As for live gear, both the guitar and bass are run through the Helix Line 6 processors direct to the board. They used to use big amps on stage but have gotten down to tiny cabs now and no munitors as they are using the in ear tech. I did a rant on that then saw a recent show with full amps again, but then found that they couldn't use all the fancy gear so they have backup gear for smaller venues or just in case. Now I second Jeffreys recomendation of Perennial at Wacken. Just so you know, they do play live to backing tracks. they contain a metronome, intros, 2nd guitar parts from old songs when they had 2 guitarists, sound effects like a clock ticking, and in the case of Perennial, they have the intro and some vocal harmonies in the quiet part that she has to be right on time to match. Sorry to sound like a nerdy musician, but I am what I am.
@@williamcody3415 that's some awesome insight. I'm the same when it comes to music. Definitely a bit of a nerd. Yeah look they're incredible at what they do. I be doing Prennial live this week so keep an eye out for that one. Thanks for the support so far.
HAve a listen to the live version at Waken. Whilst there is definite layering on this, the Waken version is a fetsival set with no trickery and equally impressive. :)
Love the analysis. It's so interesting how many people don't understand Pisces the Astrological sign which is fish. But if you look at the sign, it's the duality and almost Yin/Yang hence the reason for the duality in the composition. She's a Pisces and so am I so I supposed that's the reason I understand why this song flips back and forth between these two styles. I find it so awesome! Thanks for the reaction and I know my comment is super late but I just recently go turned on to Jinjer and Tatiana. Better late than never! 🤘🤘🤘 DUALITY: Feminine - Pisces is known as a feminine sign as it is more receptive than assertive in its energy. This is also known as Yin energy (Yang is Masculine)
@@ChaseCarneson Your insight and your personality and temperament are the best for that position. And I am in to the business for about 30 years... But you are some continents away, I guess New Zealand hearing the accent.... Otherwise I would offer you a place in my studio here in The Netherlands
Every other reactor: Holy Crap, Oh My God, Wow (Tank), I peed myself……, Wwaaahhhhhhhh! Chase….. “damn…..also something else they are doing”…. well, there is a bunch of other stuff no one other noticed was going on……. about that time signature………. the runs they are putting……. 👍👍
They do a lot of post production on their videos, but some videos are less produced than others. Try Captain Clock from Resurrection festival, this recording has a rawer sound that one might expect from actual live recordings, and the song has some cool changes.
Hi Chase. Don`t know if your question´s been answered. You asked for the guitar tuning. The guitar is tuned in DROP A, which is 5 half steps below the usual suspect DROP D. So the tuning is AEADGD.
If I'm not mistaken, the first vocalist was a dude. And yeah, this song doesn't particularly showcase how she can switch back and forth. In other songs, like Teacher, Teacher, Perennial and a load of other songs, she switches back and forth mid sentence sometimes between scream, growl and cleans.
It was a live session but they arrived at the studio early so Tati layed down some overlay vocals which you hear on the second time of chorus on the end of each phrase.
Nice reaction and breakdown. If you're looking for really good live performances, check out perennial live at wacken and pit of Consciousness live in Kiev
Yes the studio version has some delay and other effect and layers, but from being about 5 feet from her in a club in San Diego, I can tell you she definitely pull is off live.
Hey, out of curiosity, are you familiar with Otep at all? I saw an interview with her where she brings up Otep as her model for her growling. "Blood Pigs" is an excellent place to start.
@@ChaseCarneson ruclips.net/video/B56J4v8MWPw/видео.html She's one of the first I remember hitting it that hard. Alissa White-Gluz when she was in The Agonist, Courtney LaPlante from when she was fronting iWrestledaBearOnce too. She's still growling in Spiritbox (highly suggest checking them out), but a lot less.
Great reaction sir, if you want a real live set there are quite a few good live songs. Im sure some are in the comments. Im really glad you picked out Vlads skills on the drums as this video was actually recorded as a way to showcase their new drummer!
"Really soft controlled voice" I giggled at that comment.
Hahah I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER!
@@ChaseCarneson Hey im glad you discovered Jinjer! Awesome band! May i suggest Twelve Foot Ninja "One Hand Killing" for a future reaction.
When she wants it
One of the most musically intricate reaction channels I’ve found. Bringing a lot of insight into actual music theory and structure as opposed to just emotional reaction. I dig it man. Great channel
Ah William thanks for that. Wry much appreciate you taking the time to write that. Hopefully lots more on the channel you like.
They specifically re-recorded this song during this session so their new drummer, Vlad could lay down his own drums for it. I like his drums better than his predecessor's take on them (as heard on the album King of Everything).
Ralph Cahill glad to know this...Vlad has such an amazing touch!
Yea after Vlad, I can't listen to their old stuff. Vlad is an amazing drummer.
I can't see then ever changing drummers. He's one of the greatest of all time imo
Gotta say, young channel but your production quality is up there.
Nice intro, clean sound, well presented without getting caught up.
Good stuff, I will be sticking around.
Appreciate that loads! Thanks for the support. Take a look around at some of the more recent uploads.
@@ChaseCarneson Exactly, I will echo what 'Ae Nortist' was saying. What you say when you say it feels genuine. That is what I LOVE about reaction channels! I know the song, I know my first reaction. And it is just wonderful to see that a person with a lot more knowledge about this reacts to this song.
Every time I watch one of your video's it feels like I am learning. You have a nice clear commentary on it centered around your own personality with enough objecticity, which is really hard to find. And I have been around watching a LOT of reactions to this song, and Nightwish songs in general.
It is just refreshing to find a person with an honest subjective view that has enough knowledge to drop some objective bombs!
And yes, the quality of the edits are very good, especially for a starting channel! Although I would give the warning about background lighting, make sure the background is not more lit than you are. You are the focus of your video's, and really, with your insights that should be more than enough. So in short, the highest of praises to you! You who dares to put yourself and your opinions out there. Keep on keepin' on man!
Tati is a beast and Jinjer is an awesome band,- we all know that by now.
What really makes the difference for me is something most people seem to overlook.
Jinjer, - being from the easternmost part of Europe bordering on Russia and what is the beginning of the Middle East,- their traditional music is based around folk tunes and folk dances rooted in a wide variety of off meters.
Allmost none of their song have any kind of straight backbeat to them or in them.
Tons of 3/4, 5/4, 7/4, 12/8, 9/8, 6/4, 6/8, 15/8 etc,- but almost no 4/4 or 2/4 anywhere.
If you sit down and start tapping your foot to any of their songs and then start counting meters and bars you´ll quickly find that they don´t adher to standard forms of doing rock, pop and metal songs,- yet everything they do is done so smoothly and with such fluency that nobody seems to notice.
I have by now watched quite a few Jinjer reactions,- including from various musicians´s channels,- on rare occasions do even the musicians note anything funky going on,- which to me is very impressively done by Jinjer.
Pisces is a very melodically flowing song, but even when they chop things up and go percussive, though heavy and in your face, it´s still as groovy and flowing as a RHCP or Rage Against The Machine song.
I´ve heard women growl ,fry and scream before,- it´s just that Tati is an absolute master at it, I´ve heard funky beats before, I´m a born metalhead so the guitar playing is nothing new to me but Jinjer´s combination of it all mated with their uncanny second nature sense of what to the rest of us would be off beat and strange rhythms stands out to me as being unique.
And because they´re so god at it and it comes so naturally to them even the musicians don´t notice something that should be screaming in their faces!
An awesome band and a high-level display of consumate musicianship.
Only serves to heigthen my respect for them.
Yes, two vocals. They layered them after the fact. It’s most notable during the “Neptune’s child” verse. There’s a whisper dubbed over her clean voice. In live performances, Eugene has stated that they use only a short delay to double her voice and make it fatter.
I figured as much. Thanks for watching and thanks for the insight.
The extreme vocals (as Tati refers to them as) is actually 2 tracks as well. Anyway it's not like they tried to hide the fact that there is some post production done, it's in the video description. Not the specifics of it though IIRC. But no tuning or other dirty tricks, at least I can't hear it. I usually can...
@@Qyngali They play under the click with a laptop where they have prescribed pieces of back vocals
@@v0vab0b yes I know they use a click track, but pretty sure they did the extra vox in post here. They don't have the additional vocal tracks as part of the live show so it wouldn't make sense to create a separate click track just for this one recording. But that's just semantics and doesn't really matter. :)
Great musical analysis, cleared a lot of points for me, the only thing that you can add is lyrical analysis, it will help you to understand the song structure, the lyrics are amazing (for all Jinjer songs).
To continue, I recommend check all their live performances, Perennial 2019 in Wacken, Who is gonna be the one, On the top live in Kiev, Cloud factory live...
Really appreciate the feedback and kind words. Definitely going to look into the lyrics and expand on that. Also, Planning on doing Perennial this week so keep an eye out for that one!
Totally agree with this point
If this song makes the snowflake nervous he better stop now.
My 2 best metal queens, Floor and Tatiana....
"Damn, this girls got some demons in her". Don't they all
😂😂😂
As Powerwolf once said, "demons are a girl's best friend." 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
To be honest, that's most of the women I've dated, because they are the most interesting. I respect Tatiana for not trying to sugarcoat it.
Thanks on the initial comment on the drumming. I kept getting this vague feeling about it and you totally isolated it for me - so cool!
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching
Hell, I almost missed it. It never came up in my search because I search for "Reaction". Just as I was recently criticizing someone for their crappy sound editing and after watching this I must thank you. It's the first time that I see someone do what you did. Taking the time to edit the audio every time you speak adds a special touch to the video. Nobody does it. Thank you.
Appreciate that. I want these to be as higher quality as possible so thanks for the feedback.
Best live session in years in my opinion, for a song....This song will go down as a top 3 of all time on here, book it.
They use drop A tuning. Roman (guitar) and Eugene (bass) both use a Helix. Roman's European live rig is a 6505 and in the U.S. it's a 5150. The tone is a mix of the Helix and amp pre with some IRs for consistency between rigs, but most of the tone is the Helix itself. He's slamming the front end with boost/slight OD and uses very little amp distortion to get that clear-cut tone. (Edited, I had the amps switched)
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It's funny how you mentioned the drummer (Vlad). This was actually the first song they recorded with him. Pisces was already recorded and on their album King of Everything with their previous drummer (who now mixes their live sound), but after they heard how he changed it from what was on the album, they decided to go back and record this.
voice of a (biblically accurate) angel 😍
Great review and reaction. Nice that you looked past the vocals to see what the band does in the back. They are all incredible musicians. Can't wait for more.
Being a guitarist, I think that's something I'm always going to have at the front of my mind. Much more coming. New Nightwish - Ghost Love Score up a little while ago.
The basist once said in an interview that the original singer was actually a male. Tati, the current singer, was just a friend of theirs, they asked her to sing for a couple of shows or something. That goes on ever since
Interesting! Definitely going to be looking into more of their stuff and doing some live reactions. Keep an eye out for them.
Definitely check out their performance of Perennial live at Wacken Open Air 2019.
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@@ChaseCarneson another good one to watch is Who Is Gonna Be The One, live version released by and on Napalm Record's channel.
would be interessing to have a look at the hu band. mongolian throatsinging metal wolf temple is a nice one
That's "Wolf Totem."
Mongolian folk metal ftw. :) "Wolf Totem" and "Yuve Yuve Yu" are great.
Great suggestion indeed !
Best live performances are probably Perennial Live at Wacken Open Air 2019, Who is Gonna Be The One (Live), and Captain Clock Live at Ressurection Fest. Also good is On the Top Live in Kiev. They have a lot of Official Videos that look like live performances but they are just using live footage (sometimes from one show and sometimes from several shows) as a backdrop for the official album version of the song.
Perennial is coming up next for sure.
You should indeed take a look to her lyrics, she writes brilliantly, whatever the song. This song is a shock value but you obviously know your way around musical practice and I'd suggest you now check their song "Perennial" live in Wacken 2019. You should really like it. Cheers!
Thanks for that, Valerie. Perennial is definitely coming up sometime this week, so keep an eye out for it. 👌
The look on his face when she starts growling! 😂😂
I think it's still stuck like that 😑
The drummer (he was new to the band at the time of this song) was the reason they actually released this song, they did not like the song initially, then he added that jazzy sound and they felt it just clicked. Awesome that you picked up on that!
It just never gets old lol.
Just wait until you hear more from them. This was a modest sample of what they have to offer.
Can't wait. Setting up some live reactions this week. Keep an eye out for them.
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Vlad is such a bad ass drummer. He's all business. snare, 2 floor toms, and bunch of cymbals. right handed open drummer. He's actually a classically trained pianist, that only learned drums to play in Jinjer. In fact, he's the only one in the band with any formal training.
🤣"God forbid a plectra" and i lost it 🤣 Solid advice sir. Keep doing the good work. 👌😎 I can tell you for a fact that they are as tight and sounds are really tightly tuned/mixed when you see them live. Seen them a couple of times.
Glad you noticed the shifting time signatures. The verse starts in 7/8, shifts to 6/8, and then ends up in 4. But they manage to keep it from sounding angular or complex. It's just so smooth.
As for their "jazzy" sound, you should hear what comes after this on the album, "Beggar's Dance," which is pretty much a straight jazz song.
Nice insight there, Chris. I'll definitely give that a listen
"Such a soft, controlled voice."....Just wait a minute. 😂 I Love watching reactions to this song! 😁
Yeah I'll be honest. It shook my soul the first listen haha.
@@ChaseCarneson This song has quickly become one of the most reacted to songs on the internet. It is especially fun when the person reacting know nothing about the band.
Thank you for keeping us entertained during these crazy times. 😃
About what you said in the beginning about the "jazzyness" of the drummer: He actually started out playing jazz piano (if I'm not mistaken) and later picked up the drums. But I know for a fact that he also plays contrabass and guitar. Hes just an all around awesome musician.
Absolutely incredible musician.
Good catch with the time signature. 123, 1234. Subtle technical challenge for all members to time themselves to that. They are a very skilled band. The vocals effect you picked up was a double delay. It was still her live but doubled over.
Nice on Thomas. Thanks for that.
Because they arrived early at the studio and she was able to lay don some overlay vocal tacks makes this video one of a kind, as what she does here she doesn't do completely live. Especially at the end when she sings clean high-"searching for a hook to catch on" is all guttural warrior voice.
Perennial live at Wacken open air 2019 is a great live performance. Sounds like they pulled there sound from the board for the recording but it gives you a good idea of a true live experience.
Just uploaded it last night. Here you go: ruclips.net/video/NUV50d2ZX7k/видео.html.
If you want some live Jinjer then you can try Perennial live at Waken Open Air 2019, or On the top live in Kiev. Or maybe Pit of consciousness live in Kiev.
Looking at that one this week. Keep posted for it. Thanks
@@ChaseCarneson i will
wait for it... WAIT for it... THERE it is!
Man that never gets old...
Everyone loves a bit of Jinjer. From one ginger to another.
😂👌
Julia noticed the layered vocals as well.
Bummed that I missed this when this was new.
I love this video so much.
YESSSSS I love this song so much
It makes me nervous. EXACTLY!!!!!
Some songs are in drop A (earlier songs), some in drop C# (I think).
JINJER - Teacher, Teacher! (Official Video) ruclips.net/video/oRkRwL0vjOg/видео.html
JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019) ruclips.net/video/bxi3i9wzQBk/видео.html
i love this class of reaction for your scared o funnest face
in this case your appreciation is very good!!! definitely tatiana is a goddess of metal and magnificent singer.
greetings From Bogota Colombia excuse my english im learning
Thank you for the kind words 🇨🇴
Surreal is the correct description.
Tetiana has been singing in 8 different bands since she was 15 years old. She was born in the year of Cat (Rabbit), 1987, according to Chinese horoscope, and her zodiac sign is Pisces. Tetiana has made great lyrics to this song. As a matter of fact she is telling here about the Pisces personality, about her own character, about herself...
Browsing thru your videos and I must say you deserve more attention. Great analysis, keep it up.
The tuning is drop-A
Well yeah on the vocals but they did this not long after Vlad joined on the drums. They really wanted to show case his drumming style. Dmitri Kim is a bad ass drummer by all means and thankfully he was able to continue playing. He fell out of a motel window back in 2016 and sustained a pretty serious injury. The whole band had to scrap money to get him a surgery. He did all the drum work on King of Everything and that is who you see on the I speak Astronomy official video. you can also see a few videos with Jinjer live, and go to his you tube channel dmitri kim. He's a session player now, but on his channel he does a segment of I speak astronomy. He hasn't lost a lick.
It was Eugene Mantulin who fell out of the window.
Love your reactions and quick ear to a lot of intricacies in music! Funny seeing the PTH slander, but that's fair enough lol.
her voice is layerd in the video. they told in an interwiev. but thats all they have done to her voice. the extreeme vocals are all her.
You'll see in some of their live performances there is a backing track, click track, and vocal harmonies overlaid. Their Live set in Melbourne 2020 is really really mixed well, sounds really great for a true live set. and you can hear a lot of the technical intricacies.
Totally agree about their use of technicality. All are really talented (especially Eugene - bass) but they’re very tasteful about it. You might not hear everything each member can do in the course of a single song, and that’s ok. I also love both of Tatiana’s voices...they stand alone great and can hold their own. What’s awesome about Jinjer is the band would be worth listening to on its own, as would Tatiana...no weak links.
I love your detailed analysis, it's a breath of fresh air
This is my first time here. I really like your detail of the music, very well done. I think you should check out one of their live concerts. They have several here on RUclips. Perennial is certainly one of the ones I enjoy the most. Happy to support and looking forward to more from you.
I'm actually looking into Perenial live very very soon. Might even be today actually. Stay tuned.
Funny you say that uploading Prennial love, right now. Keep posted.
The layering you're hearing is a little delay (and probably some reverb, maybe some chorus..?) that they also use during their live shows. There are a few interviews where they talk about it.
Watching his reaction to the intro, knowing what's about to happen to him... it's hysterical.
I believe my subwoofer bounced across the room when you hit the space bar...... LOL
😂🙋🏼♂️
First time I saw this song,I thought one of the others in the band were singing,blew my mind when I realized it was her!🤘
Perrenial live at Waken :)
Coming up this week. Keep posted!
Another great analysis video. I am pretty happy, that you look 'deeper' at the songs as the most rectors. Abonnented you channel! Keep up the great work!! Thanks!
(btw. try to count the meter of the song ;o) )
Greetings from Austria
Woody
Thanks. I love this band. 👍
This is a live session with full post production including layered vocals.
So true, in fact it's written in the video description but no one reads those 😋
I really liked your reaction mate!
Out of curiosity, by chance is your inset video set at a low resolution? I ask just since when there’s text on screen within the inset video (like at 11:54), the text looks kinda pixelated a bit?
And if you might like to listen to more Jinjer, I think you’d really enjoy “Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019)” and “Who’s Gonna Be the One”-and that’s just to name two among many others! (And both of those are live to boot!)
And just as a preemptive heads-up: If you might like to pronounce “Wacken” like the locals, one would say “Vah-ken.” (In German, “W” is pronounced like a “V” is in English.) I’m only mentioning that part just since most folks seem to stumble over that one a bit.
Hey Ashley, It is. I have some new gear on the way which will take care of all the video technical issues and quality. Deliveries taking a bit longer nowadays but definitely on it. Thanks for the feedback.
Chase Carneson Ah, righto-sounds like you’ve got this sorted!
All you're hearing on the vocals is a slight bit of chorus effect. It's background mixed live through the board.
Awesome Reaction, dude! You pay real close attention to every detail. Kudos!!
Also, just fyi, the notes you mentioned on the snare drums are called ghost notes.
And indeed the vocals are layered. Nonetheless, she performs them beautifully.
If you want to see her at her best, check out their live performance of Perennial (Live at Wacken 2019).
Loving the reactions. Keep up the amazing work.
Cheers from Brazil
Hey Cayo, I actually have a few more Jinjer reactions up on the channel so take a look. Appreciate the comment and support.
They play under the click with a laptop where they have prescribed pieces of back vocals.
The drumwork is called ghost notes.
Good review. Older song that was redone to highlight new drummer.
Makes sense. Thanks, Jim. Appreciate that.
Really loving your analysis. Stumbled across you in my present habit of watching Band-Maid reactions and here i am watching your analysis of another band. Thumbs up for your video. I don't really do the whole "screaming" thing. Technically what she's doing i find impressive but it stops me wanting to listen to the band again. Each to their own i guess.
Great analysis - subbed. Glad you picked up on the vocal layers and editing - it's kinda painful when someone thinks this is actually live. :p I've seen them twice and they are epic on stage, at least as good as what they do in studio. The guys are all incredible (Roman on guitar, Eugene on bass, and Vlad on drums) but it is easy to miss that as great as Tatiana is. If you want to check out a bootleg, best I've seen of Pisces is in the live in Israel full set uploaded by Idan Shahar - links to each song are in the top comment. Perennial live at Wacken is a great follow-up reaction that is more representative of their style, though even that is lightly retouched. It shows off her cleans but doesn't get into her lowest growls (neither does Pisces).
Appreciate the kind words, Jeffrey. Still very impressed with band and song regardless of the "live" nature of the recording. Technical without being too forced. I'll definitely give that one a listen then. Also, properly jealous you've seen them live.
@@ChaseCarneson They do a good job balancing complexity and fun. It will be great when they can start touring again.
AS for the "Live" part, I did a major rant a while back as to why this is not live audio or video. No need to go over it. I really wanted to say that all the official live stuff is of course taken to a studio and cleaned up a bit before release by most record labels. Its not like the old days though where jimmy page spent weeks touchng stuff up. Jinjer is that good live, they dont need much help to make something sound good. Their old drummer seems to do a lot of it for them and knows how they should sound. I have seen some bootlegs from nights that Tatiana is stuggling to hear and gets off a bit. but that is the nature of live music. I have been listening for a couple years now, I just heard a mistake for the first time from these guys. (BIG worng note... the kind that gets a conversation later ) A rare moment they prove they are only human. lol.
As for live gear, both the guitar and bass are run through the Helix Line 6 processors direct to the board. They used to use big amps on stage but have gotten down to tiny cabs now and no munitors as they are using the in ear tech. I did a rant on that then saw a recent show with full amps again, but then found that they couldn't use all the fancy gear so they have backup gear for smaller venues or just in case.
Now I second Jeffreys recomendation of Perennial at Wacken. Just so you know, they do play live to backing tracks. they contain a metronome, intros, 2nd guitar parts from old songs when they had 2 guitarists, sound effects like a clock ticking, and in the case of Perennial, they have the intro and some vocal harmonies in the quiet part that she has to be right on time to match.
Sorry to sound like a nerdy musician, but I am what I am.
@@williamcody3415 that's some awesome insight. I'm the same when it comes to music. Definitely a bit of a nerd. Yeah look they're incredible at what they do. I be doing Prennial live this week so keep an eye out for that one. Thanks for the support so far.
They have a version of Pisces where she hits her lows. Satan in an angel's body.
HAve a listen to the live version at Waken. Whilst there is definite layering on this, the Waken version is a fetsival set with no trickery and equally impressive. :)
First reactor I've seen that mentions the doubled vocals....Good Ear Dude...
I do my best. Thanks buddy
Please do Who's gonna be the one, live, and you'll see another «Pan's Labyrinth» moment...
Love the analysis. It's so interesting how many people don't understand Pisces the Astrological sign which is fish. But if you look at the sign, it's the duality and almost Yin/Yang hence the reason for the duality in the composition. She's a Pisces and so am I so I supposed that's the reason I understand why this song flips back and forth between these two styles. I find it so awesome! Thanks for the reaction and I know my comment is super late but I just recently go turned on to Jinjer and Tatiana. Better late than never! 🤘🤘🤘
DUALITY: Feminine - Pisces is known as a feminine sign as it is more receptive than assertive in its energy. This is also known as Yin energy (Yang is Masculine)
You sound like my ideal producer. If you are not in producing yet, then do, man... You are made for it!
That's incredibly kind. I still write and play , but mostly just for me. if the right opportunity comes along I would definitely be interested.
@@ChaseCarneson Your insight and your personality and temperament are the best for that position. And I am in to the business for about 30 years... But you are some continents away, I guess New Zealand hearing the accent.... Otherwise I would offer you a place in my studio here in The Netherlands
@@robertcraane7910 haha not too far off in terms of accents. Actually originally South African. Maybe one day, you never know. Thanks again
Every other reactor: Holy Crap, Oh My God, Wow (Tank), I peed myself……, Wwaaahhhhhhhh!
Chase….. “damn…..also something else they are doing”…. well, there is a bunch of other stuff no one other noticed was going on……. about that time signature………. the runs they are putting……. 👍👍
I would love you to react to Hagelslag feat. The Hirsch Effekt - Kollaps. A very unknown German band, but an awesome arrangement.
If you click on the description they say they did post production on the live recording
Yeah I saw so a little while after filming this one. Very fond memories of this one
They do a lot of post production on their videos, but some videos are less produced than others.
Try Captain Clock from Resurrection festival, this recording has a rawer sound that one might expect from actual live recordings, and the song has some cool changes.
The softer parts of this song are heavily influenced by Opeth.
yeah it basically belongs on Damnation, which is a good place to be
"Sunbeam" is the best moment in this song...fight me!
I melt when she sings 'Skittish'
Yes! Pan's labyrinth every time!
Hi Chase. Don`t know if your question´s been answered. You asked for the guitar tuning. The guitar is tuned in DROP A, which is 5 half steps below the usual suspect DROP D. So the tuning is AEADGD.
If I'm not mistaken, the first vocalist was a dude.
And yeah, this song doesn't particularly showcase how she can switch back and forth.
In other songs, like Teacher, Teacher, Perennial and a load of other songs, she switches back and forth mid sentence sometimes between scream, growl and cleans.
yeah,try teacher teacher for fast switch.....:)
Check out Perennial @ Waken, that's a good Live performance
It was a live session but they arrived at the studio early so Tati layed down some overlay vocals which you hear on the second time of chorus on the end of each phrase.
Hey everyone. New Jinjer - Perennial reaction up now. Would love to hear what you think. ruclips.net/video/NUV50d2ZX7k/видео.html Best!
Nice reaction and breakdown. If you're looking for really good live performances, check out perennial live at wacken and pit of Consciousness live in Kiev
Nice on, Chris. Thanks for the feedback. Going to be be looking at Perennial this week so keep posted for when it comes out. Probably Friday/Saturday.
Yes the studio version has some delay and other effect and layers, but from being about 5 feet from her in a club in San Diego, I can tell you she definitely pull is off live.
I believe it.
Listen to Sit Stay Roll Over
"Daaaaaamn"
dude her new song on top,onfg :)
Jinjer perennial live at waken
Coming up in the next day or two. Keep posted!
Coming up in the next day or two. Keep posted!
Coming up in the next day or two. Keep posted!
Ofc its layered. Its live session accent on session. Live =/= (live) session
Hey, out of curiosity, are you familiar with Otep at all? I saw an interview with her where she brings up Otep as her model for her growling. "Blood Pigs" is an excellent place to start.
No not really. I know the name but that's about it.
@@ChaseCarneson ruclips.net/video/B56J4v8MWPw/видео.html
She's one of the first I remember hitting it that hard. Alissa White-Gluz when she was in The Agonist, Courtney LaPlante from when she was fronting iWrestledaBearOnce too. She's still growling in Spiritbox (highly suggest checking them out), but a lot less.
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Pretty sure Roman is playing in Drop A on a 6 string for this song... Though I think he uses a 7 string more now.
Great reaction sir, if you want a real live set there are quite a few good live songs. Im sure some are in the comments. Im really glad you picked out Vlads skills on the drums as this video was actually recorded as a way to showcase their new drummer!
Actually uploaded a reaction to Perennial live, so take a look at that one when you get a gap: ruclips.net/video/NUV50d2ZX7k/видео.html
Her last name is pronounced as shmay-luck
Thanks for the help with that one.
@@ChaseCarneson no problem
Even though this song is not like Tool, it creates the same kind of otherworldly atmosphere Tool creates at it's best.
"Bad water" is a better example of a more tool sound in them
Jen G Where are you!?
Yes, this is processed. It is not true live. But ... it sounds very good. So, I forgive their deception :)