My two cents after getting my k3 a week ago, with blue optical switches and rgb. Overall I like it and would recommend. I have a few complaints, but I think it's worth the money and I'm glad I got it. The low profile, optical, blue switches are nice. The click feels relatively subtle and quieter than the kailh low profile blues I used in a havit board. Key caps feel very nice for abs, definitely matte texture and no shining yet... keys are surprisingly stable and feel solid compared to my previous low profile keyboard. I prefer solid color, so I got the extra key cap set and used the dark grey. Looks super nice imo. Build feels good to me- as solid as it needs to be, and not cheap. The layout is great; not missing anything I need. I'm still adjusting to the short right shift, but it hasn't annoyed me enough to be a real issue, and mistakes are getting less and less. Bluetooth works about as well as I'd expect. It can be annoying to have it go to sleep to quickly, and sometimes takes ten seconds to wake, which feels like an eternity. But when it's in use and connected, it works well. Could be better, but it meets my standard. Most of the time I use the bluetooth mode even though I made it easy for myself to plug it in for gaming. I've tried the bluetooth connection for gaming and honestly the lag is acceptable. I cant say I noticed it once I got sucked into the match (Destiny 2). I feel more confident using the cable, but I realize this is partly psychological and I think you would be happy with it in non-competitive settings. It's better than older bluetooth keyboards in my experience. Biggest complaint for me is the rgb- the purple color isn't quite right to match my other LEDs, and I can't fine-tune it. Also, the green light for charging when the cable is connected shines through the key above it and it annoys me. I think they said they would look into addressing this complaint. As someone who prefers low-profile boards to full sized ones, this is very good, 90% of the way there to my ideal keyboard. I'm personally not concerned about the build (it is naturally less hefty than a massive, standard board.) I love how small it is, and for me, the typing experience is nearly perfect. I learned to type on a laptop, and I've never enjoyed full sized boards. If you are like me, then I think it does a great job being a low-profile, compact, stylish keyboard and i can recommend it.
Would you say that the Kailh Blues are almost identical to the optical blues? Im not sure whether to get the optical blues or try some of their optical linears. Currently I have the Kailh blues and would like something lighter as i will be typing a lot. What do you think?
The low-profile vs regular is my main difficult choice (like K3/K1 vs K4v2). I used to ***LOVE*** the Apple Extended II keyboard, which has me nostalgic to get something similar again, as I think I could type faster than on the 'chiclet' type keys I now use (mostly because of the action, or lack of). That said, I've also gotten very used to these chiclet keys (currently an Apple Magic Keyboard) and very low-profile over many years now (and quiet!). Maybe higher-profile with a wrist-rest? I wish I had one of each for a few weeks to help decide. :) Maybe like you, I will want low-profile and mechanical, ultimately. Best of both worlds?
I just started learning about mechanical keyboards yesterday.. And this video is really good! You're easy to understand, nice balance between fun and informative, and between subjective and objective. Thanks for this video!
If you don't drop it and don't need to travel with a laptop much this is perfect then. Seems like most of your critical points were around the flimsiness which won't be an issue if you're not moving it around or intending to switch the keys.
I am so glad your channel exists!!! I was able to make my keyboard choice because of you. I also appreciate the depth you go into your videos and website. I can't wait for your future content.
I've grown used to laptop keyboards and hate the traditional mech key feeling with the huge actuation distance, so I think this keyboard would be perfect for me
Apparently they have improved on the K3 with its version 2 now! Definitely more sturdy/less flimsy now so it kind of fixes the only issue about the K3 that you mentioned. it also comes with new height-adjustable stands and hot swappable optical switches so it's such an improvement. Have you heard about it?
The v2 seems very sturdy - but I also don't try to wring it out as youtubers apparently do all the time. And the sound of the keys compared to what we hear in this video is a lot quiter and lower. The optical red switches might not be for everyone, but I can type much faster with those than with e.g. regular browns. I'd say it's one of the best keyboards I ever used, only topped by my Ergodox, which is of course 3x the price.
I really like the K3. I don't like flat membrane or scissor style laptop type keyboards like the Apple keyboards, but I definitely don't like full height mechanical keyboards either because whilst they have a satisfying typing action, the higher actuation force and travel distance just becomes tiring over time with alot of typing. The K3 optical white fits the bill perfectly as its half way in between. I don't agree with the comment in the review about it being flimsy or badly built. The key caps are very thin and I'd like to see alternative thicker PBS caps offered but it's only $70, so build is fine for that price.
i just got the K7 and after gaming for years on a laptop its the best keyboard ive had since switching to a desktop. worth the money and really give that feel im used to.
The three foot drop test should be standard for any portable type keyboard. If you bring portable electronics with you, they're going to do their level best to fall off stuff.
Since I got this k3 I will never change. I love it. The light Weight is a plus for me, because I use backpack with a 8litres mini itx desktop case inside too.
After watching this I’m sooooooooooooooo glad I swapped my K3 for a K1 v4. Midway through the K3 Kickstarter campaign I was browsing the Keychron site and noticed their K1 v4 also had low profile switches (but not swappable) but more importantly, it came in a 104 key version. I was also stunned it was fully aluminium & in my view looked much better than the K3. I reached out to Keychron & they were absolutely fantastic about letting me swap my pledge to the K1. I definitely made the right decision & glad you just confirmed it! Thank you :-)
Regarding the drop, it's not so bad if the housing simply detaches from the base as it release the force of impact. If it's too rigid, the impact force will be transferred to the house, base, or even PCB, and will be much more likely to crack. It's the same reason you see F1 cars fly into pieces while the driver walks away just fine; they're designed to release the impact force so that it isn't transferred to driver!
Just got mine, I like it... I actually like it a lot. I’ve had a K4 for a little while, but the K3 is a massive improvement over a laptop keyboard, and especially over the “magic keyboard” which I didn’t waste. $350 on with my iPad Pro preorder this morning. So my K3 has already saved me a cool $275. Is it better than the K4 or other full size mechanicals? No,. But it’s very very good as an option for productivity with an iPad.
Nice review. I have the K3 for about a week now and I'm pretty happy with it. I wanted a lowprofile kb to throw in my laptop backpack and it does the job well.
Keep in mind that the Keychron warehouse is in Hong Kong. It ships from there, and if you don't like the product, you're responsible for returning it to there. Which means, effectively, there are no returns. Keychron doesn't offer a return label, so you can pony out more money than you spent on the actual keyboard, trying to return it.
Very informative video! I was so looking forward to this keyboard. I recently got a K1 V4. I love it, but really liked the idea of the cleaner, more compact design. Hearing your explanation of the build quality might be a deal breaker for me. The build quality is so good on the K1. Such a bummer that didn’t carry over!
As usual very complete review :) K2 vs K3 please. Enjoying K2 right kow, but looking for slimmer and silent version of it to use it at the office and when mobile.
This keyboard is not silent. The keys reverberate horribly with the plastic back case. I tried the Blacks, Oranges (clicky), and Browns other than the click that you expect with a "clicky" switch they are all about the same loudness. They are not as loud as a proper thocky keyboard, but I would rather do some silent variant with a proper mech keyb.
A few YT tips. Add a CTA at the beginning of the vid to like and subscribe. Also, don't tease your conclusions at the beginning of the video because it may decrease watch time. Otherwise, a great and very informative video with plenty of detail!
Won’t be getting it anytime soon. I pre-ordered in the beginning of November, they still haven’t even finished shipping K3s out to their Kickstarter backers and pre-orders won’t be shipped until those are done as far as I can tell. They’re not saying anything about it.
@@martelljhixson chill... How are you to type? The way you're typing now. You really don't know how to live your life while you wait a few weeks? There's always the option of cancelling the order. I backed Durgod Fusion campaign and that has been a disaster, but the board itself is worth the wait, so I chill. There are more important concerns to life, man...
Damn! I should wait for your review before I pre-ordered the k3! Because I also ordered 3rd party xda keycaps to replace the stock keycaps. The fact that keys with stabilizers are not compatible means I spent about $55 for nothing. 😭😫
I much prefer the gateron mechanical over the Keychron optical. I didn't think there'd be much difference, but the optical switches seem to be more shallow. It's unfortunate that if you choose the gateron switches you lose the ability to swap. The Nuphy 75 is next up for me to try. I want a low profile board, but I feel like the Keychron might be a tad too much compromise.
That's not how they work, of course they still have electrical contacts that fit into sockets like any other key! It's only the actuation inside that's different.
Hey Betty, can you make a video explaining and comparing the difference between the gateron low profile and optical switch options available for this keyboard. I don’t know how to pick between them, thanks
I replaced all of the alphanumeric keys on my K3 with standard MX PBT keycaps, and it works quite well. I left only the stabilized keys, the function keys, and the fn key with the stock keycaps. It looks a little odd, but I enjoy typing on it a lot more now. The Keychron ABS keys are just too slick and thin for my tastes. I’m quite happy they designed these new switches to accommodate MX stems.
I've tested Keychron k3 and Nuphy air 75. Now I love all about Nuphy but switches. Keychrone browns are absolutely gorgeous! How can I have this experience on my Nuphy now instead its gateron reds?
A month ago, during Christmas shopping, I stubled upon a mechanical keyboard in a store. Till that moment, I thought it's just a fad, a gimmick, but I felt really impressed. Few days ago, I decided to do my homework and look up for some information before I decide what to buy. I found your channel and oh boy, I must say, besides all the valuable, very well structured info, your presentation is top notch. It fits very vell with the content.
Would the build quality be perfectly fine if it mostly sat on my desk and only sparingly traveled with it? The layout and low profile ergonomics is perfect for me who's looking for the most desk space
mine arrived a few days ago and I've already given it a five star review on their website. For me, its absoliutely killer. Flimsy? I prefer to see it as ultralight. I treat my geat with care and I can't see it being damaged. I also ordered a second one in a different switch. I hope you enjoy yours when it arrives :)
@@orivaa ordered mine in late November. I know the pandemic has slowed the shipping date but I get frustrated seeing everyone get there's way before mine🤷🏾♂️
For a casual gamer like me, this keyboard is perfect. My only gripe is that the delete button is not the top right-most key. My primary use for the keyboard would be for work at home; so flimsy board isn't a problem. The low profile is going to be easy on my wrists and it has all the important keys you need for typing work. At the end of the day, the value of the board is really based on the user. I think it would be great if your reviews included different perspectives because not everyone is going to carry it around or are gamers. Anyways, great video and I'm definitely getting myself one.
Loved my K7 optical mint switches, however, after long periods of time, my hand got pretty fatigued. Unfortunate as I love heavy switches (my previous MKB utilizes green MX switches which I still use to this day. I just got he K3 with the banana switches and it is a night and day difference. Typing on the mints are sublime. However, any other tasks such as gaming proved to be too difficult and heavy for long periods of gaming on the mints. Banana switches FTW. I prefer it over the brown optical switchers which has a lower tactile bunp.
It looks like the NuType F1 is a better choice over this one in my needs. Which I finally received. I'm very pleased with it and finally understand what's the thing with mechanical keyboards. A very hard to isolate, define and describe satisfaction feeling when we typebb. I remember you talking about the right "shift". I've realised that I finally use it. But my muscle memory adapted in a week or so.
I’ve watched a lot of k3 videos on RUclips and no one talks about it being a lightweight flimsy piece of junk so I think yeah I should cancel my preorder and find something better. You saved me because I was already having doubts about my preorder
I know you didn’t want to say its total junk but it seems you really were let down. I think I’m gonna get the Logitech g915 tkl and just be done with this search for the right keyboard. Spend the extra and try not to feel guilty
You just saved me some $ cash, thank you! :) I’ll keep using my K1 v4 which I really like. The key actuation pressure on the browns are a bit heavier than my preferred number but I’ve gotten used to it and compared to the Logitech TKL it’s absolutely fine and a heck of a lot less money. I hope they make a few updates in a v5 edition that address some of the things you hit on in your review of this board but overal as an everyday keyboard for coding I like it.
get used to my MacBook Pro for several years , I grow to like the feel of low-key keyboards. I plan to buy this one for work. it's seem to suit my test though.
Awesome review as always. I am a backer of the RGB Optical Red version and have to agree that this board, is really only recommended for someone who wants a super light weight board to carry around and uses it with say an iPad at a Cafe and do not want to bring a laptop around for it. The board itself is so flimsy it almost feels like a toy and the typing experience is underwhelming as it feels very mushy. I have typed on many different low profile keyboards and this is by far the worst experience since it felt like I was typing on a piece of foam (not sure if the rubber piece is the contributing factor). The decision to change the stem to MX style seemed like a step in the right decision to cater for 3rd party keycap sets, but completely breaks that with the inability to change the keycaps for the stabilizers. That baffles me the most considering that they had marketed the change in MX style stem to cater for 3rd party keycap sets in the first place. I think something that is perhaps missed in the review, is that the caps lock key and right shift key will also not be replaceable as they have attachments to 2 wires to help stabilize the keys and the normal keycaps will have interference with the wires when pressed. Finally, I agree with you, that the K1V4's built quality and typing experience is far superior to the K3, who seem to have taken all the learnings of the K1 and threw it out the window, to revert back to V1 issues and problems when building the K3. Keychron have been a good solid company thus far, and I still love their products, but I highly recommend for those who are looking for the low profile keyboard, to look elsewhere for now and come back to the K3 when it is at say V4 instead.
Excellent review as always! I'm glad Keychron made a 75% slim mechanical keyboard, but that light button placement is unfortunate. Delete should be there, instead of the light button. I also don't like that the keyboard does not have remap memory, I don't like installing extra software. The design is beautiful though.
I just got the K2 v2. The one thing I see about the K3 that I like is kind of minor: The printing under the switches. For some reason, Keychron decided not to put any printing below the switches, and I find the legends at the bottom extremely hard to read since they're black on black.
UPDATE: The K3 is now available in a version 2 which addresses many of the issues highlighted in this video. The v2 now has two-level adjustable feet (6 and 9 degrees), new and better keycaps, a reinforced galvanised steel plate attached to the plastic bottom frame as well as an aircraft-grade aluminium enclosure to improve structural integrity and give it a more premium feel. I'm typing this on my new v2 (K3-E2) with Keychron low-profile blue clicky switches and it is a satisfying low-profile mechanical keyboard at a good price-point.
I have had mine for a bit now as well for my travel keyboard for my iPad Pro. I bought both a set of the black linier switches and a set of the browns and I will say that if you really didn't like the white switches I'd definitely recommend the browns since they are really tactile much more tactile than I was expecting! A lot more satisfying to type on with such short throws. Its Great for traveling in a pack with their optional case and I haven't had any issues the build quality due to that. Also the black switch is near silent! the spring is strong enough that it doesn't rattle at all.
Hi what do you think of the K3 Pro. Or please could you recommend something. My cheapo HP membrane keyboard is breaking down and I want to try something a little better this time, in 75% though. Logitech MX Mechanical Mini perhaps?
awesomr :D ive settled on a k6 but i still watch these vids 😂 can you do a video on carrying keyboards around? on planes, also everyday, etc. what carrying cases, soft vs hard shell, all that. thanks for the content! also "baAiIi" back at you
6:37 Keychron mentioned in Kickstarter they are aware of the issue of the power indicator being too bright and is planning to fix it with the next firmware update.
Light weight and portable doesn't necessarily mean it's going to break down in a year. I've been using a Logitech K810 for almost five years now, which I think is even a wee bit smaller and lighter than this one. I want to find another keyboard more for gaming that is also very low profile so that I have the option of using it from my couch and bed, with the keyboard on my lap, and I don't want anything that will force me to angle my wrist and fingers and create stress there.
Hey! I've been scratching my head on which keyboard to choose as my next keyboard to replace the old one (Filco Ninja MajesticTouch) and I was looking for slim mechanical keyboard. I am not regret buying this particular keyboard. Love every minute with it! I don't like the RGB stuff so I pick the white backlight and I am not regretting at all. As Free Chilli mentioned below, the delete key is not on the top right so quite a number of times where I accidentally pressed the wrong key but you'll get used to it after a week or so.
So are low profile white switches objectively faster for gaming than like Cherry MX Silvers ? Im considering a Razer Deathstalker V2 pro TKL and buying the aftermarket Keychron Low Profile Optical White Switches to put into it to use for gaming
Thank you for the video. Appreciate you are not a fan of low profile boards but... is there a 65/75 board you would recommend over the Keychron K3? The K3 is £84 in the UK currently. The Fnatic Streak65 LP is £109 but is not yet available with UK caps. (" and @ are flipped)
It would be awesome if you could make a better alternative suggestion for those looking at this keyboard as well as other keyboards you review that cannot be recommended. You kinda did with the K1 v4 but its not the same style. I understand that takes extra time so I would understand if you're not interested in the idea.
Keychron K3 or Nuphy F1? I want a wireless, low profile, 75% or below keyboard and I’m really torn. I dislike the flat keycaps, so I preordered the K3. I also thought it’d be a K1 with a 75% layout but this (excellent) video has shown otherwise. Help!
This is my current keybaord. But I'm looking for something with the same layout as this that is also wireless and with RGB lighting but has the same look and feel as the Ducky Varmilo Miya Pro. Though preferably hotswapple. Any suggestions? Thank you!
Why don’t you mention the issue with the Bluetooth dropping out every 10 minutes and having to mash keys for 5 seconds until the connection reestablishes? Other reviewers have mentioned this issue with Keychron keyboards but you seem to omit talking about it? Seems like a major design flaw/engineering deficiency. Thanks.
Hi Betty, I hope you already have a chance to get the k3 v2. Keychron pretty much "redesigned" the board according to your review. I have gotten it. It's really nice even though it looks a bit like a toy, but it just really is lol. Oh, one more thing. I want to learn how to type like you and Ali (the doctor ) which is using only pinky fingers for the shift keys. There is no tutorial for that yet. As always, thanks!!!!
To answer your question from 8:22, because I have a vertical mouse on the left side and a tablet on the right side of the keyboard. So I want a compact board and K1 is too wide. To each his own right. So my question is: which 75% low profile mechanical board DO you recommend?
I'm debating between going with the k2v2 or the k3v2... I'm used to use laptop keyboards, but I like to enjoy the mechanical experience... I heard betty said that the k2 is a bit nicer in that regard... I believe I'll end up tossing a coin jajajajaja
I'm in that situation right now. For now I have decided to go with the k3, maybe your experience could change my mind haha. Please tell which one did you get
Betty, did you notice any pinging on yours? I just got mine with blue switches and am noticing some ping on certain keys. I never noticed this on my K4 with yellow switches. Trying to figure out if it's an issue with the springs in those certain switches/a symptom of the blue switches, if it's due to the thinness of the board's aluminum, or if it's due to the key's location on the board. I'm noticing it the most in my E, U and L keys. Not so much in the others.
@@SwitchandClickOfficial well that's good! since it's only a few of the keys that I'm noticing it on, my guess is that it has something to do with the switches. I'd just like to add, thank you for being so responsive!!
i be honest I ain't never dropped a keyboard off the desk my whole life lol.
It's Bluetooth tho so maybe bring it to school?
@@br5632 can just the the one that's attached to yer laptop
@@a55tech I don't have a laptop, desktop/tablet so I have a Bluetooth keyboard
@@br5632 if u don't got a laptop what u be using the keyboard for? to connect to your phone?
@@a55tech iPad
My two cents after getting my k3 a week ago, with blue optical switches and rgb.
Overall I like it and would recommend. I have a few complaints, but I think it's worth the money and I'm glad I got it.
The low profile, optical, blue switches are nice. The click feels relatively subtle and quieter than the kailh low profile blues I used in a havit board. Key caps feel very nice for abs, definitely matte texture and no shining yet... keys are surprisingly stable and feel solid compared to my previous low profile keyboard. I prefer solid color, so I got the extra key cap set and used the dark grey. Looks super nice imo.
Build feels good to me- as solid as it needs to be, and not cheap. The layout is great; not missing anything I need. I'm still adjusting to the short right shift, but it hasn't annoyed me enough to be a real issue, and mistakes are getting less and less.
Bluetooth works about as well as I'd expect. It can be annoying to have it go to sleep to quickly, and sometimes takes ten seconds to wake, which feels like an eternity. But when it's in use and connected, it works well. Could be better, but it meets my standard. Most of the time I use the bluetooth mode even though I made it easy for myself to plug it in for gaming.
I've tried the bluetooth connection for gaming and honestly the lag is acceptable. I cant say I noticed it once I got sucked into the match (Destiny 2). I feel more confident using the cable, but I realize this is partly psychological and I think you would be happy with it in non-competitive settings. It's better than older bluetooth keyboards in my experience.
Biggest complaint for me is the rgb- the purple color isn't quite right to match my other LEDs, and I can't fine-tune it.
Also, the green light for charging when the cable is connected shines through the key above it and it annoys me. I think they said they would look into addressing this complaint.
As someone who prefers low-profile boards to full sized ones, this is very good, 90% of the way there to my ideal keyboard. I'm personally not concerned about the build (it is naturally less hefty than a massive, standard board.) I love how small it is, and for me, the typing experience is nearly perfect. I learned to type on a laptop, and I've never enjoyed full sized boards. If you are like me, then I think it does a great job being a low-profile, compact, stylish keyboard and i can recommend it.
Thanks for sharing! Love reading all these different experiences
Thanks! I was looking for an honest review. Most reviewers never mentioned anything about that rgb issue.
Would you say that the Kailh Blues are almost identical to the optical blues? Im not sure whether to get the optical blues or try some of their optical linears. Currently I have the Kailh blues and would like something lighter as i will be typing a lot. What do you think?
@@kareem7094 I'd say they are very similar, but not identical. I prefer the optical blues, they feel a touch lighter and crisper to me
The low-profile vs regular is my main difficult choice (like K3/K1 vs K4v2). I used to ***LOVE*** the Apple Extended II keyboard, which has me nostalgic to get something similar again, as I think I could type faster than on the 'chiclet' type keys I now use (mostly because of the action, or lack of). That said, I've also gotten very used to these chiclet keys (currently an Apple Magic Keyboard) and very low-profile over many years now (and quiet!). Maybe higher-profile with a wrist-rest? I wish I had one of each for a few weeks to help decide. :) Maybe like you, I will want low-profile and mechanical, ultimately. Best of both worlds?
25th! I love your content, Betty! This channel is truly, a hidden gem.
Thank you so much!
I just started learning about mechanical keyboards yesterday.. And this video is really good! You're easy to understand, nice balance between fun and informative, and between subjective and objective. Thanks for this video!
If you don't drop it and don't need to travel with a laptop much this is perfect then. Seems like most of your critical points were around the flimsiness which won't be an issue if you're not moving it around or intending to switch the keys.
Totally agree!
@@Marsh.x with which your typing experience feels good?
I am so glad your channel exists!!! I was able to make my keyboard choice because of you. I also appreciate the depth you go into your videos and website. I can't wait for your future content.
Awesome! Thank you!
my k3 v2 is now 2 years old and it is still perfect. all leds and switches are working perfectly. the keycaps are looking good as well.
This, with the K4 layout would be beyond amazing.
I think the two extra rubber feet are there to replace the taller ones if you wanted a more leveled keyboard.
I've grown used to laptop keyboards and hate the traditional mech key feeling with the huge actuation distance, so I think this keyboard would be perfect for me
Who’s here before the Premiere? Can’t wait to watch
Apparently they have improved on the K3 with its version 2 now! Definitely more sturdy/less flimsy now so it kind of fixes the only issue about the K3 that you mentioned. it also comes with new height-adjustable stands and hot swappable optical switches so it's such an improvement. Have you heard about it?
I just got one. I love it! The Adjustable stands has two options.
The v2 seems very sturdy - but I also don't try to wring it out as youtubers apparently do all the time. And the sound of the keys compared to what we hear in this video is a lot quiter and lower. The optical red switches might not be for everyone, but I can type much faster with those than with e.g. regular browns. I'd say it's one of the best keyboards I ever used, only topped by my Ergodox, which is of course 3x the price.
I really like the K3. I don't like flat membrane or scissor style laptop type keyboards like the Apple keyboards, but I definitely don't like full height mechanical keyboards either because whilst they have a satisfying typing action, the higher actuation force and travel distance just becomes tiring over time with alot of typing. The K3 optical white fits the bill perfectly as its half way in between. I don't agree with the comment in the review about it being flimsy or badly built. The key caps are very thin and I'd like to see alternative thicker PBS caps offered but it's only $70, so build is fine for that price.
i just got the K7 and after gaming for years on a laptop its the best keyboard ive had since switching to a desktop. worth the money and really give that feel im used to.
The three foot drop test should be standard for any portable type keyboard. If you bring portable electronics with you, they're going to do their level best to fall off stuff.
Since I got this k3 I will never change. I love it. The light Weight is a plus for me, because I use backpack with a 8litres mini itx desktop case inside too.
Great info, that "bye" at the end may haunt my nightmares haha. Thank you for the info and the laugh.
After watching this I’m sooooooooooooooo glad I swapped my K3 for a K1 v4.
Midway through the K3 Kickstarter campaign I was browsing the Keychron site and noticed their K1 v4 also had low profile switches (but not swappable) but more importantly, it came in a 104 key version. I was also stunned it was fully aluminium & in my view looked much better than the K3. I reached out to Keychron & they were absolutely fantastic about letting me swap my pledge to the K1.
I definitely made the right decision & glad you just confirmed it!
Thank you :-)
Regarding the drop, it's not so bad if the housing simply detaches from the base as it release the force of impact. If it's too rigid, the impact force will be transferred to the house, base, or even PCB, and will be much more likely to crack. It's the same reason you see F1 cars fly into pieces while the driver walks away just fine; they're designed to release the impact force so that it isn't transferred to driver!
i hate how underrated this channel is
Thank you!
You'll be able to flex that you were here before 100K subs 😏
For anyone new here: actual useful review starts at 9:10
Just got mine, I like it... I actually like it a lot. I’ve had a K4 for a little while, but the K3 is a massive improvement over a laptop keyboard, and especially over the “magic keyboard” which I didn’t waste. $350 on with my iPad Pro preorder this morning. So my K3 has already saved me a cool $275. Is it better than the K4 or other full size mechanicals? No,. But it’s very very good as an option for productivity with an iPad.
Nice review. I have the K3 for about a week now and I'm pretty happy with it. I wanted a lowprofile kb to throw in my laptop backpack and it does the job well.
Which colour key and are you happy you pi ked that colour?
@@Glycheer I got the black switches and I like them very much.
Keep in mind that the Keychron warehouse is in Hong Kong. It ships from there, and if you don't like the product, you're responsible for returning it to there. Which means, effectively, there are no returns. Keychron doesn't offer a return label, so you can pony out more money than you spent on the actual keyboard, trying to return it.
you said that on the other ten videos about it
Very informative video! I was so looking forward to this keyboard. I recently got a K1 V4. I love it, but really liked the idea of the cleaner, more compact design. Hearing your explanation of the build quality might be a deal breaker for me. The build quality is so good on the K1. Such a bummer that didn’t carry over!
Glad it was helpful!
I can see that B-roll has improved! :)
Thanks!
Thanks for this. You pointed me to the L80. Bought it and can’t wait use it. Thank you!!
I'll wait to the review of the Keychorn K3 v2
Betty to K3 after unboxing: "I must break you."
Haha
As usual very complete review :)
K2 vs K3 please. Enjoying K2 right kow, but looking for slimmer and silent version of it to use it at the office and when mobile.
This keyboard is not silent. The keys reverberate horribly with the plastic back case. I tried the Blacks, Oranges (clicky), and Browns other than the click that you expect with a "clicky" switch they are all about the same loudness. They are not as loud as a proper thocky keyboard, but I would rather do some silent variant with a proper mech keyb.
A few YT tips. Add a CTA at the beginning of the vid to like and subscribe. Also, don't tease your conclusions at the beginning of the video because it may decrease watch time. Otherwise, a great and very informative video with plenty of detail!
thanks
I have dropped my keyboard more than I'd like to admit so this review was quite helpful.
Thanks, Betty, I feel better about my K8, now.
I got so excited 😁....tricked me! Pre-order in early January. They have until the release of this video to release my K3! 😤
Won’t be getting it anytime soon. I pre-ordered in the beginning of November, they still haven’t even finished shipping K3s out to their Kickstarter backers and pre-orders won’t be shipped until those are done as far as I can tell. They’re not saying anything about it.
@@adamjohns1375 Grrrr! How are we to type? How are we to live our lives with Keychron making us wait like peasants.
@@TheCh0wderp 🤬🤬🤬
@@martelljhixson chill... How are you to type? The way you're typing now. You really don't know how to live your life while you wait a few weeks? There's always the option of cancelling the order. I backed Durgod Fusion campaign and that has been a disaster, but the board itself is worth the wait, so I chill. There are more important concerns to life, man...
@@martelljhixson who tf you think you are ?
Great video! You're very knowledgeable! Presentation is great and soothing. Keep doing what you do!
Thanks!
Got mine today. Watched your review multiple times. Amazing content!
Glad you enjoy it!
Betty, thanks for this review. I have the K1 v4, and this made me think. :D
Keep up the awesome work!
Thank you! Will do!
Damn! I should wait for your review before I pre-ordered the k3! Because I also ordered 3rd party xda keycaps to replace the stock keycaps. The fact that keys with stabilizers are not compatible means I spent about $55 for nothing. 😭😫
I haven't taken out the stabs, but if you do that, you can probably use the keycaps (just not stabilized)
I really waited for you to review this keyboard and I apparently missed the video...
Thank you for the great review for your low profile fans viewers!
I much prefer the gateron mechanical over the Keychron optical. I didn't think there'd be much difference, but the optical switches seem to be more shallow. It's unfortunate that if you choose the gateron switches you lose the ability to swap. The Nuphy 75 is next up for me to try. I want a low profile board, but I feel like the Keychron might be a tad too much compromise.
Optical switches should have fewer hot swap problems because there are no electrical sockets or contacts.
That's not how they work, of course they still have electrical contacts that fit into sockets like any other key! It's only the actuation inside that's different.
Hey Betty, can you make a video explaining and comparing the difference between the gateron low profile and optical switch options available for this keyboard. I don’t know how to pick between them, thanks
Go for the optical, way smoother
I replaced all of the alphanumeric keys on my K3 with standard MX PBT keycaps, and it works quite well. I left only the stabilized keys, the function keys, and the fn key with the stock keycaps. It looks a little odd, but I enjoy typing on it a lot more now. The Keychron ABS keys are just too slick and thin for my tastes. I’m quite happy they designed these new switches to accommodate MX stems.
Very nice!
Was looking for a keyboard to gift to my sister. I think I'm going for the K1 v4 afterall. Good review Betty!
Good choice!
I always love your thumbnail photos haha keep up the great work :)
Glad you like them!
I love your review on this, I hope you'll be able to review the k7 soon!
I've tested Keychron k3 and Nuphy air 75. Now I love all about Nuphy but switches. Keychrone browns are absolutely gorgeous! How can I have this experience on my Nuphy now instead its gateron reds?
Thanks for leaving moggie in the typing test!
A month ago, during Christmas shopping, I stubled upon a mechanical keyboard in a store. Till that moment, I thought it's just a fad, a gimmick, but I felt really impressed. Few days ago, I decided to do my homework and look up for some information before I decide what to buy. I found your channel and oh boy, I must say, besides all the valuable, very well structured info, your presentation is top notch. It fits very vell with the content.
Thanks for sharing!
Would the build quality be perfectly fine if it mostly sat on my desk and only sparingly traveled with it? The layout and low profile ergonomics is perfect for me who's looking for the most desk space
Absolutely! If you're not bringing it places or if you have an appropriate carrying case, it would be great!
Command icon drawn as 5 circles is killing me
FYI They pushed the shipping date to 25th January!
A lot of complaints on reddit about their proprietary stabilizer orientation. weird because they don't even offer any upgraded first party keycap sets
I'm still waiting for mine and I torture myself by watching videos of people who already got theirs 😭😂
mine arrived a few days ago and I've already given it a five star review on their website. For me, its absoliutely killer. Flimsy? I prefer to see it as ultralight. I treat my geat with care and I can't see it being damaged. I also ordered a second one in a different switch. I hope you enjoy yours when it arrives :)
When did u order ? Waiting for mine too ... It’s been 2 weeks
@@kmailk5016 I ordered before Christmas and haven’t got any update so far
@@orivaa wow 😳 i’ve got some waiting to do then...
@@orivaa ordered mine in late November. I know the pandemic has slowed the shipping date but I get frustrated seeing everyone get there's way before mine🤷🏾♂️
For a casual gamer like me, this keyboard is perfect. My only gripe is that the delete button is not the top right-most key. My primary use for the keyboard would be for work at home; so flimsy board isn't a problem. The low profile is going to be easy on my wrists and it has all the important keys you need for typing work.
At the end of the day, the value of the board is really based on the user. I think it would be great if your reviews included different perspectives because not everyone is going to carry it around or are gamers. Anyways, great video and I'm definitely getting myself one.
Loved my K7 optical mint switches, however, after long periods of time, my hand got pretty fatigued. Unfortunate as I love heavy switches (my previous MKB utilizes green MX switches which I still use to this day. I just got he K3 with the banana switches and it is a night and day difference. Typing on the mints are sublime. However, any other tasks such as gaming proved to be too difficult and heavy for long periods of gaming on the mints. Banana switches FTW. I prefer it over the brown optical switchers which has a lower tactile bunp.
Great timing, thank you! & love your bye bye’s :)
Yay! Thank you!
It looks like the NuType F1 is a better choice over this one in my needs. Which I finally received. I'm very pleased with it and finally understand what's the thing with mechanical keyboards. A very hard to isolate, define and describe satisfaction feeling when we typebb. I remember you talking about the right "shift". I've realised that I finally use it. But my muscle memory adapted in a week or so.
I’ve watched a lot of k3 videos on RUclips and no one talks about it being a lightweight flimsy piece of junk so I think yeah I should cancel my preorder and find something better. You saved me because I was already having doubts about my preorder
I haven't watched any other K3 reviews haha
I know you didn’t want to say its total junk but it seems you really were let down. I think I’m gonna get the Logitech g915 tkl and just be done with this search for the right keyboard. Spend the extra and try not to feel guilty
You just saved me some $ cash, thank you! :)
I’ll keep using my K1 v4 which I really like. The key actuation pressure on the browns are a bit heavier than my preferred number but I’ve gotten used to it and compared to the Logitech TKL it’s absolutely fine and a heck of a lot less money. I hope they make a few updates in a v5 edition that address some of the things you hit on in your review of this board but overal as an everyday keyboard for coding I like it.
Glad I could help!
18:05 "just read your manual" priceless.
It's a good manual haha
I just got the K3v2 and it doesn't feel flimsy at all. Did they change the case?
Yeah I got the same, they upgraded the case after the complaints that it was flimsy and added heigh adjusters.
get used to my MacBook Pro for several years , I grow to like the feel of low-key keyboards. I plan to buy this one for work. it's seem to suit my test though.
I can't really use a normal mech keyboard without a palm rest. And I'd like to have more desk space. Ordered K3 and we'll see.
why not k1?
@@knotsable Bigger. I was already hesitant on 75%.
Awesome review as always. I am a backer of the RGB Optical Red version and have to agree that this board, is really only recommended for someone who wants a super light weight board to carry around and uses it with say an iPad at a Cafe and do not want to bring a laptop around for it. The board itself is so flimsy it almost feels like a toy and the typing experience is underwhelming as it feels very mushy. I have typed on many different low profile keyboards and this is by far the worst experience since it felt like I was typing on a piece of foam (not sure if the rubber piece is the contributing factor).
The decision to change the stem to MX style seemed like a step in the right decision to cater for 3rd party keycap sets, but completely breaks that with the inability to change the keycaps for the stabilizers. That baffles me the most considering that they had marketed the change in MX style stem to cater for 3rd party keycap sets in the first place. I think something that is perhaps missed in the review, is that the caps lock key and right shift key will also not be replaceable as they have attachments to 2 wires to help stabilize the keys and the normal keycaps will have interference with the wires when pressed.
Finally, I agree with you, that the K1V4's built quality and typing experience is far superior to the K3, who seem to have taken all the learnings of the K1 and threw it out the window, to revert back to V1 issues and problems when building the K3. Keychron have been a good solid company thus far, and I still love their products, but I highly recommend for those who are looking for the low profile keyboard, to look elsewhere for now and come back to the K3 when it is at say V4 instead.
Thanks for your input! Great to know I'm not the only one
Excellent review as always! I'm glad Keychron made a 75% slim mechanical keyboard, but that light button placement is unfortunate. Delete should be there, instead of the light button. I also don't like that the keyboard does not have remap memory, I don't like installing extra software. The design is beautiful though.
Thanks for the info!
I just got the K2 v2. The one thing I see about the K3 that I like is kind of minor: The printing under the switches. For some reason, Keychron decided not to put any printing below the switches, and I find the legends at the bottom extremely hard to read since they're black on black.
UPDATE: The K3 is now available in a version 2 which addresses many of the issues highlighted in this video. The v2 now has two-level adjustable feet (6 and 9 degrees), new and better keycaps, a reinforced galvanised steel plate attached to the plastic bottom frame as well as an aircraft-grade aluminium enclosure to improve structural integrity and give it a more premium feel. I'm typing this on my new v2 (K3-E2) with Keychron low-profile blue clicky switches and it is a satisfying low-profile mechanical keyboard at a good price-point.
Question if I may: do you use high-profile/normal keyboards with palm rest? Trying to solve this problem, not sure which keyboard to buy. Thanks.
Thanks for the review Betty! Great content as always...
Thanks again!
I have had mine for a bit now as well for my travel keyboard for my iPad Pro. I bought both a set of the black linier switches and a set of the browns and I will say that if you really didn't like the white switches I'd definitely recommend the browns since they are really tactile much more tactile than I was expecting! A lot more satisfying to type on with such short throws. Its Great for traveling in a pack with their optional case and I haven't had any issues the build quality due to that. Also the black switch is near silent! the spring is strong enough that it doesn't rattle at all.
Hi what do you think of the K3 Pro. Or please could you recommend something. My cheapo HP membrane keyboard is breaking down and I want to try something a little better this time, in 75% though. Logitech MX Mechanical Mini perhaps?
I have a K1 with flat keycaps. It's a heavy board but I'm still looking forward to trying this k3.
awesomr :D ive settled on a k6 but i still watch these vids 😂 can you do a video on carrying keyboards around? on planes, also everyday, etc. what carrying cases, soft vs hard shell, all that. thanks for the content! also "baAiIi" back at you
I just stuff it into my backpack if I need to, nothing too special or anything.
Hi are you filipina? nice Review on keyboards, i just ordered my first keychron k2.
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6:37 Keychron mentioned in Kickstarter they are aware of the issue of the power indicator being too bright and is planning to fix it with the next firmware update.
Awesome to know! :) I don't mind it too much
They seem to have improved the build quality in the version 2. Any plans to review that? :)
If Keychron decides to make a low profile version of the K4 as well, I hope the build quality would be at least the same like as the K1 V4
K3v2 maybe
If someone wants different key caps they sell black and white options of low profile key caps on their website
For some reason she reminds me of fake Jim from the office. Like the same smile and demeanor and quiet voice
Light weight and portable doesn't necessarily mean it's going to break down in a year. I've been using a Logitech K810 for almost five years now, which I think is even a wee bit smaller and lighter than this one. I want to find another keyboard more for gaming that is also very low profile so that I have the option of using it from my couch and bed, with the keyboard on my lap, and I don't want anything that will force me to angle my wrist and fingers and create stress there.
Hey! I've been scratching my head on which keyboard to choose as my next keyboard to replace the old one (Filco Ninja MajesticTouch) and I was looking for slim mechanical keyboard. I am not regret buying this particular keyboard. Love every minute with it!
I don't like the RGB stuff so I pick the white backlight and I am not regretting at all. As Free Chilli mentioned below, the delete key is not on the top right so quite a number of times where I accidentally pressed the wrong key but you'll get used to it after a week or so.
I agree with your opening remark about the overall 'low-profile' boards as I want a real standard mech feels.
So are low profile white switches objectively faster for gaming than like Cherry MX Silvers ?
Im considering a Razer Deathstalker V2 pro TKL and buying the aftermarket Keychron Low Profile Optical White Switches to put into it to use for gaming
Thank you for the video.
Appreciate you are not a fan of low profile boards but... is there a 65/75 board you would recommend over the Keychron K3?
The K3 is £84 in the UK currently.
The Fnatic Streak65 LP is £109 but is not yet available with UK caps. (" and @ are flipped)
It would be awesome if you could make a better alternative suggestion for those looking at this keyboard as well as other keyboards you review that cannot be recommended. You kinda did with the K1 v4 but its not the same style. I understand that takes extra time so I would understand if you're not interested in the idea.
Keychron K3 or Nuphy F1? I want a wireless, low profile, 75% or below keyboard and I’m really torn. I dislike the flat keycaps, so I preordered the K3. I also thought it’d be a K1 with a 75% layout but this (excellent) video has shown otherwise. Help!
k3
Thanks, I won’t cancel my preorder then lol
Love this! Personally I ordered the Keychron C2 cuz I prefer a full layout. Do you plan on reviewing the C1 and C2?
yooo the audio is so ✨c r i s p y ✨
Thanks dude!
Awesome review! Please check out the cooler master sk622 perhaps in the clicky switch.
This is a super duper awesome review 😝
Thank you!
pleaaaase come back to this narration style in your videos.
This is my current keybaord. But I'm looking for something with the same layout as this that is also wireless and with RGB lighting but has the same look and feel as the Ducky Varmilo Miya Pro. Though preferably hotswapple. Any suggestions? Thank you!
not much keyboards in your desired options in the market rn
@@dimarcuss Switched to K2V2 with lubed and filmed Gateron red switches and I must say, I am quite enjoying it.
Why don’t you mention the issue with the Bluetooth dropping out every 10 minutes and having to mash keys for 5 seconds until the connection reestablishes? Other reviewers have mentioned this issue with Keychron keyboards but you seem to omit talking about it? Seems like a major design flaw/engineering deficiency. Thanks.
Hi Betty, I hope you already have a chance to get the k3 v2. Keychron pretty much "redesigned" the board according to your review. I have gotten it. It's really nice even though it looks a bit like a toy, but it just really is lol. Oh, one more thing. I want to learn how to type like you and Ali (the doctor ) which is using only pinky fingers for the shift keys. There is no tutorial for that yet. As always, thanks!!!!
They'll send it to me, but I won't review it. Maybe a story here or there about it though
hi betty, for a full size keychron with rgb, aluminium case and red switches, would you recommend the k4 v1 or the k4 v2? (also considering the c2)
k4 v2
To answer your question from 8:22, because I have a vertical mouse on the left side and a tablet on the right side of the keyboard. So I want a compact board and K1 is too wide. To each his own right.
So my question is: which 75% low profile mechanical board DO you recommend?
Preordered this a few weeks ago but swapped my order over to the K2v2 alu frame instead. Seems i made the right choice lol
I'm debating between going with the k2v2 or the k3v2... I'm used to use laptop keyboards, but I like to enjoy the mechanical experience... I heard betty said that the k2 is a bit nicer in that regard... I believe I'll end up tossing a coin jajajajaja
I'm in that situation right now. For now I have decided to go with the k3, maybe your experience could change my mind haha. Please tell which one did you get
@@mateoquinteros2 y got the k3, I liked its design over the k2, And to be honest, I have enjoyed a lot!
Betty, did you notice any pinging on yours? I just got mine with blue switches and am noticing some ping on certain keys. I never noticed this on my K4 with yellow switches. Trying to figure out if it's an issue with the springs in those certain switches/a symptom of the blue switches, if it's due to the thinness of the board's aluminum, or if it's due to the key's location on the board. I'm noticing it the most in my E, U and L keys. Not so much in the others.
No pinging on mine
@@SwitchandClickOfficial well that's good! since it's only a few of the keys that I'm noticing it on, my guess is that it has something to do with the switches. I'd just like to add, thank you for being so responsive!!